/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>74968731
>her

>>74969320
And other unverifiable rrats!

>>74968731
Him

>>74969463
Her. Unless you can provide proof to the contrary.

>>74969522
Him. I Mpregged him.
Proof: Trust me, bro.

We hate em cause it’s a him

>>74970020
>source: my ass
Not a single person can prove Zentreya is anything but a beautiful mid-twenties Texan woman.

>>74970066
But can you prove that they're a woman?

>>74968731
How fucking old is this image

>>74971679
>you must prove to me not me prove to you
And this is how you fail a basic logical argument.

>>74971808
Bait thread faggots don't watch the bait subjects and keep up with changes, anon.

>>74968731
>her

What's up with all the bait threads about my wife lately?

Nah, I hate her because she made her perfect huge tits smaller.

>>74968731
indeed agree i have grown quite the soft spot for this toaster in the smoldering black pain filled dust that is my heart. zen is nothing but wholesome and fun and zen can take a joke to boot more than most other thin skinned vtubers can say where the slightest nag will earn you a perma ban or worse. As far as zen is concerned its fair game bants chat takes what we dish out so mad respect for that i have never had more fun in a vtubers chat

>>74972447
Hmmmm maybe it is a woman

>>74972125
Luxiem faggot's outfit flopped, go figure

He's a man. The proof has been posted and discussed multiple times and you have never been able to address the points people have made.

>>74968731
Who?

>>74968731
>her

>>74972794
zen fans who don't coom to her don't care because she's entertaining and is the unity leader for vshojo, zen fans who do coom to her are probably bi anyway
no one talks about it because it doesn't matter, as long as she's honest about her gender to the rest of the org and they trust her that's all that matters

>>74973923
They clearly do care when they desperately try to claim that there's no proof.

>>74974107
That's what happens when people make wild claims about others. I've seen people get banned for claiming that the reason a Holo went on break is because they're pregnant. Difference is this is VShojo so they don't get the same treatment.

>>74974107
they're likely trying to get anons who come into /vsj+/ to whine about it to get banned as hard proof might be considered doxx. don't get me wrong I wouldn't fight against the claim she's either male or trans but it's fucking annoying seeing that shit when everyone in the general is well aware

>>74974404
well they have failed to get anyone banned

>>74974405
What wild claims? His voice is clearly heard in the clip and you know it. No, it's not anyone else's voice.

>>74975542
>If I keep confidently asserting things maybe people will stop calling me retarded

>>74975654
I didn't ask you to do a self-introduction, retard.

>>74974405
>I've seen people get banned for claiming that the reason a Holo went on break is because they're pregnant
This is because its real doxx though. If I revealed that Haachama went on break because I am pregnant people might find out that she is my husband.

>>74975912
Congratulations anon. I wish you nothing but the best.

>>74968731
>They hate her 'cause he ain't a her.
ftfy

>>74970066
>mid-twenties
Anon she's open about her age, she turns 31 this month

it's just kinda funny how desperate they are to convince themselves he isn't a man despite how much they claim it doesn't matter

>>74976930
W-w-well it matters when you're making a WILD CLAIM!

>>74976930
there's a ton of vshitshowfags on the catalog for some reason, it's pretty funny

>>74977166
But they told me they never leave their general and don't care about the catalog.

>her
I love zen dogpile threads!

>>74972794
what proof

>>74968731
Dull

Ok so since niji is dead and dusted, I guess Vshojo is next? What are they going to be called, Vsisters?

>>74977449
>>74150594

>>74977166
>>74977376
What level of seethe is this? When you're mad that vtuber watchers are on a vtuber board lmfao

>>74977609
Why claim that you don't go to catalog threads when you do?

>>74977609
>vshoujo
>vtubers

>>74977733
Who says that? It's mostly about actually making threads, which there's no reason to since this board is so Youtube-focused the only thread /vsj+/ has anything in common with is /lig/ and to a much smaller extent /wvt/

>>74968731
>

>>74978086
You and your buddies do and you just confirmed that by moving the goalpost because you know exactly what I'm talking about. The funny thing is that even with your "it's about making threads" shift you're still lying.

>>74978408
Yeah you're definitely mad about... something. I don't know what though. What the fuck threads do you think vsjfags are responsible for lol

>>74978513
This one, homo. You made this thread.

>>74977601
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
>PROVE IT
>proof given
>vshocucks sit in silence
HOLY FUCKING G R I M

>>74978592
Why would a VShojofag make a thread that's going to invite people to shit on a VShojo member?

>>74968731
male

>>74978712
you cucks do it all the time to compete with phasecucks, dont pretend this is your first day here cunt

>>74978712
>Ackshually every vshojo thread is a falseflag and I just happen to enter every single one
Why would a vshojotranny post in a thread that's going to invite people to shit on a vshojo member?

>>74969522
A woman, no matter how shitty her voice, has need of TTS.

>>74977597
>BUT WHAT NIJI
you shitters are all garbage, remember the embarrassing 2022 talent freedom campaign taking swipes at holo?

>>74978914
That's my point, Vshojo seems to be raring to get shat on

>>74978832
I post in lots of threads lol.
>>74978829
Did you just read the OP and ignore the other posts in this thread? Here's some that I'd bet came from actual VShojofags >>74972125 >>74972447 >>74972534 >>74971808

>>74979070
Of course you do. We were mocking how you fags keep claiming that you don't leave your generals but somehow find your way here every single time.

>>74979286
??? That doesn't address the claim that a VShojofag made this thread though.

>>74979412
Only a vshojofag would make this thread. The OP image is several years old and has only been posted two other times on the board in the vsj thread both times.

>>74968731
>She is Him
fr fr

>>74968731
cute

>>74978887
Everyone here bitches about how insane women are until it goes against their biases

>>74979936
Yeah, the OP image is several years old. That means it's from someone who's not bothering to keep up or just grabbed a random old image.

>>74980405
It's not a "random old image" when it has only been posted twice. The OP is from your echo chamber.

>>74968731
Russian fuck boy trap twink fag crossdresser femboy cunt!

>>74980611
Yeah. Posted twice. Last posted 2 goddamn years ago. Originally posted 3 years ago. Tell me how that's a commonly used vsj image? People post the stuff currently happening, not pull back a 3 year old image that's 30 models behind unless it's good for reaction purposes, which that one clearly isn't.

>>74980823
>the OP is totally a vshojo hating falseflagger who randomly pulled up a three year old thread to find a random image
>he's not from vsj because he didn't use a commonly posted image!!
Holy shit you're stupid. Do you think you're some kind of master troll for always acting like a retard?

>>74981314
I'm more questioning how you think this is a realistic thing to happen. Everyone knows what happens if you make a pro-VShojo thread on /vt/. Why would someone who actually likes VShojo do it? It's not some big secret that nobody sees coming. It's not even well disguised.

>>74981442
You're the one suggesting something completely impossible, idiot. A three year old image that has only been posted twice in vsj can only be in posession of someone from there.
Why was the thread made? The same reason you're here: to act like an obnoxious faggot.

>>74981746
Am I? Anyone can just grab a random image. It's not that hard. This specific image doesn't matter, they just needed one and they got it. If you select an image at random from a hat the history of the image doesn't matter. It was selected at random. Add in that based off the filename from the first time it was posted showing it was from Twitter and you're really getting worked up over the least solid proof of all time lmfao.

>>74982138
How is an image that has only been posted twice a "random" image? You need to be able to explain how the vsvojo hating OP ended up in a two year old vsj thread when picking this totally random image.

>>74968731

There will be no explanation

>>74982371
How is that not the exact definition of random? It had no significance before being selected at random for this. I don't know how someone finds an image they use for a thread. Maybe they googled and found it on Twitter. Maybe they just searched an old thread. Maybe they searched for old posts with a certain term. But this is all focusing on the image when the bigger issue is why a VShojofag would make an anti VShojo thread?

If zen isn’t a dude why do they not reveal their voice and stop using that fucking text to speech trash?

>>74982877
None of what you're suggesting is realistic. If someone hated vshojo and wanted to make a zentranny thread they would just go to your current thread.

>>74983175
None of what you're saying is realistic. Do you have a preferred group or oshi? Do you make anti threads for them?

>>74983263
This is not an anti thread. The OP is literqlly pro-zentranny. It's only "anti" in your schizoprenic cope narrative where vtrannies necer leave your generals and never post in the catalog, yet you're here and the OP is one of yours.

>>74983441
How is it not an anti thread? It's specifically made to draw antis to it and start shit. That's why you're here, is it not?

>>74983502
The op is pro-zentranny so it's not an anti thread. How are you not a vshojo anti? Only vshojo antis post outside of the generals. You are a falaeflagging anti. You have no reason to be in this thread.

>>74978887
TTS is sovl

>>74983065
If his simps think he is a woman they will be more dedicated with their support, see:this thread

>>74983903
Anon please don't tell me you're that stupid lmfao. Haven't you ever heard of a double entendre?

>>74971899
Very cool, but you still havent proven anything. All you can tell is that they stream on twitch with tts. You can't prove they're a woman, and I can't prove they're not.

>>74984006
If OP is an anti then so are you. You both have no reason to be outside of your echo chamber, yet here you are.

>>74984152
I didn't make the thread though. And anyone can go into any thread after its made.

seems to me this gender is clearly pretty important since you've been arguing about it for hours

>>74984238
And? You and OP both have the same reason for being outside of your echo chamber.

>>74984393
I don't make anti threads though. A VShojofag wouldn't make a VShojo anti thread

>>74984138
There is proof of a male voice belonging to the TTS operator actually.

>>74984470
It's an anti thread as much as your posts are anti shojo posts. You have no reason to be here, yet here you are.

>>74968731
>her

>>74984964
There's no reason for me to not be here though. You're trying to conflate "posting in a thread" with "Making an anti thread" when they're not the same at all.

>>74968731
>her

>>74968731
Obviously a babi and the farce has gone on so long and all the judgement lives rent free in his head. That's why he will never reveal it, if he does he'll end up using a voice changer anyway or have some woman speak a few lines for him before going back. It's a story as old as time and these types are exceedingly common, he's just the one that got popular. It's just the only plausible explanation even if it's not the only possible explanation, the one his fans push is so implausible that it's not even worth considering. I don't even watch any of his content or know that much about him, but it's still obvious what his shtick is.

>>74968731
Tranny vibe

>>74986100
>or have some woman speak a few lines for him
didn't he actually do that once

>>74972125
Posting Zen, Froot, or Ironmouse in OP is a guaranteed 150+ replies

>>74986739
Kson too. Henya seethe's been dying down lately and everyone else needs extra qualifiers to actually piss people off.

>>74986965
Henya doesn't make people seethe, I think she just makes people sad

>>74969522
he says while not providing proof himself

>>74988263
proof was provided and ignored earlier in the thread

>>74985588
They are the same. You have done nothing to stop people from shitting on vshojo and only started a nonsense argument about the OP not being a fan.

>>74988571
proof? anything will do, a handcam, a voice stream, something from the broadcaster zentreya that is undoubtedly from a woman.

just so you know anon, its okay to cum from a man. doesnt make you gay. in a sense, reading doujins made by men for the purpose of making other men climax is no different than a man modelling and piloting a character to make other men climax. so you know, if zentreya makes you horny, you're not necessarily gay

>>74968731
>another Zen thread
>another retarded 100+ discussions about gender
You better answer me, how a can man with a voice changer have enough charisma to become one of the most loveable and prosperous personas in the envtuber community? Why didn't YOU use a TTS then anon, instead of going the hard way of a male vtuber?

>>74991930
thats cool, good for him. im not really the type to stream though, so thats why, dunno why you asked. i just need you to stop saying shes a woman unless you can prove it.

>>74991930
the only thing funnier than shojokeks pretending this guy is a female is pretending he's funny after giving up on the former

>>74981746
>A three year old image that has only been posted twice
OP's image sure as shit has been posted a lot more than that
Probably with different filenames

>>74983065
Quite literally the same reason most vtubers use an avatar instead of a facecam

>>74992912
No it has not. The md5 only has 3 results in the archive. I bet you don't know what an md5 is.

The funny thing is that even if for whatever reason Zen does a full voice and face reveal that confirms they are, in fact, a chick, we'd still get anons insisting she's a dude and vice versa probably

>>74992968
That's not the same reason. If it was, everyone would be using TTS.

>>74995958
There's proof of the TTS user having a male voice just from a month ago. A sudden face and voice reveal is not going to change that.

>>74995958
he already tried this before, and his girlfriend or whoever was pretending to be zentreya didn't know how to pronounce the girls' names in a collab. he can do anything but it won't erase the past, like with mouse's daughter. either you know, post proof and get a 3 day or you don't and you live in blissful ignorance

>>74969522
ez
women don't play drums like him

>>74995890
No, I don't speak terminal autism

>>74996476
>knowing things means you are autistic
I guess the dumber you are, the more normal you become, using that logic.

>>74998646
You're the one scraping archived 4chan threads and investigating file data to determine the likelihood of an image's source and post frequency

Fuckin' weirdo

>>74998731
I'm not the same anon you were arguing with

>>74998808
Sure thing

Zen was a mute during his VRChat days. What more proof do you need that he's a male?
Not like it matters, but why deny reality so much?

>>74998731
>scraping archived 4chan threads
NTA, but you don't need to be a superhacker to get that information.

>>74999168
It doesn't matter how difficult it is, doing it at all is autistic as hell
Nobody normal gives this much of a shit

>>74991930
>how
literally luck, that's it
>Why didn't YOU use a TTS then anon
because becoming a popular creator in general involves luck, gender doesn't matter

By the way, I'm going to continue calling out retards who think he's a woman
There is no possible benefit of not talking unless you're a man, simple as

>>74996073
Is this proof in the room with us right now?

>>74971899
Why do other people have to prove anything? Golden standard of the internet is you prove you're a woman or you're not a woman and live with the fact that people say he / him in reference to you.
If it was just the voice that'd be one thing, but it's also a Vtuber there is twice the potential for deception.

>>74999446
the lie has gone on for so long revealing the truth would end his career, kinda like mouse and her fake disease

>>74999714
Addendum: No, it doesn't mean they're a woman if at any point in the future they do a 'RARE REAL VOICE STREAM!!!', because they'll have hired a voice actress / fan who is in on the bit for that stream.

kek lmao ironclut chaser bad vshojo is bad and terrible tts is terrible man male cock collab terrible bad and shit lungscumkekronlmaokekmouse tts is bad male collab and vhosjojo is terrible because betrayal and terrible things for people and good will win but kekeke lmao terrible kek vshojo is bad and the bad is bad for the good bad ironkek the bad luxiem collab and hypocrite and mint is a spy to make them the bad see to people lmao kek no one is ready

>>74980823
Man, she/he is such a kino streamer, shame about TTS, it's just too annoying and I love the humour, although, obviously if I heard man's voice I'd watch her.

>>74972540
kek

>>74977601
>>74978688
this fake "proof" again? everyone knows Zen always uses STTS, even in private calls with Henya and the others.

>>74988114
have you not seen all the bait threads about bullying and raping her?

>>74968731
>her
Waaay back in the day I had a shizo impression that it was a heterosexual couple behind the avatar, since "she" displayed both male and female body language depending on particular stream.
Also both "her" twitter avatar and banner right now have two "zentreyas" in them.

Zen is great.

>>74969320
/thread

>>74999340
So it's normal to argue for an hour how the OP is definitely not a vshojo fan but it's not normal to click twice to verify if that's really true or not?
Nice of you to display how insane you really are.

>>75000370
You need to prove that it's fake. The situation has been explained to you multiple times but you keep your head buried in the sand while claiming that the gender is totally not important to you.

>>75006450
I don't need to do anything, it's clearly HeavenlyFather, and Zen doesn't stream without STTS. The onus is actually on you to prove the clip's legitimacy.

>>75006450
There’s nothing on that clip that proves a damn thing

>>74968731
I'll never be a troon thankfully so yeah I'm not HIM.

>>75005954
>posts /thread
>bumps the thread

>women using an anime avatar to hide their face is totally okay
>but suddenly using a program to hide your voice is wrong

I don't want to hear any fucking discussion about kayfabe or immersion ever again.

>>75006757
It's clearly not heavenlyfather because you can't hear him on the Zen POV. This person who you claim to be heavenly just happens to say the same three things that Zen says. How can that happen?

>>75006770
It proves that a male voice says what Zen is saying.

>>74999714
Nah, you can just accept people are who they say they are. It doesn't really concern you and you're a schizo if you pry for no reason. The difference is that he acts a certain way and doesn't use his normal voice. Now he plays off the mystery of it all, except it's not that mysterious at all. If he acted like a woman and had something better than tts then people would have been more accepting. I accept that no voice vtubers are women all the time because they don't push it into awkward territory where there's no reason they shouldn't just use their normal voice. That's the difference.

>>75007090
>It proves that a male voice says what Zen is saying.
No it doesn’t there’s barely any fucking noise during that part

>>74999807
About 12 years ago there was this drama going on that turned into a weird ARG. The person behind a supposed female identity just hired people from fiverr or something to do voiced lines. They were supposed to be proof that it was a female but the lines were obviously acted and came across very stilted.

>>75006757
You're coping way too hard about this, Zen's TTS is rigged only to what Zen is saying and in that clip, Zen's TTS is picking up what this second voice is saying, and at the exact same moments of when the second voice is saying stuff. Also you can only hear this alleged second heavenly on heavenly's POV, not Zen's even though Zen is literally right in front of him in-game. This isn't even the only instance of weird stuff around Zen's real gender, it's just the most clear cut. I don't care if Zen is a male or not, but why act like you don't care then go into such denial?

>>75007193
Yes it does. Zen's text shows what he's saying and you can hear it from Eviltoaster's POV.

>>75007425
You’re really going out of left field with this

>>75007704
All I hear is static

>>75007425
>I don't care if Zen is a male
Clearly you do

>>75007777
Why are you playing deaf? Everyone else can hear the male voice saying these things.

>>75007858
>Everyone
All I hear is static. You’re reaching super hard for any noise at this point.

>>74998902
Wasn't Fefe ALSO a mute during her VRChat days? Or does she not count

>>74983441
This is very obivously an anti-thread, Zen's fanbase knows very well it's impossible to have a discussion outside of vsj+, she's one of the most hated vtuber on this board and none of that hatred is justified by drama or things she could've said or done.

>>75008018
Yes, everyone. All the other vtranny defenders claim that they're hearing heavenly and you're claiming there's no voice.

>>75008092
>she's one of the most hated vtuber on this board
That's simply not true. I love her as much as everyone on this board hates her combined so it equals out to neutral or slightly positive.

>>74983441
>not an anti thread
It sure is though. It’s nothing but
>SEE ITS CLEARLY A MAN
>WHY DENY A MAN

Would we still have these threads if Zen sticked to the gecko or toaster model?

>>75008129
>claiming
I’m stating what I AM hearing you retard

>>74969522
>Her. Unless you can provide proof to the contrary
do your rep faggot,you twitch/vshojo fag are retarded lazy ass mofo,its literally everywhere

>>74968731
”Her”

rrat zen is heavenly miss ball that acquired sentience and is now streaming. Man, simon infected catalogtards.

>>75008208
Seethe more

>>75008092
>>75008155
The OP is positive about Zentranny and he could have only obtained the image by wither being on /vsj+/ or Zen's twitter years ago. The thread was made by one of you.

>>75008274
>seethe
nice projection there zen fag lmao,ppl are laughing at your ass simping for him LMAO

>>75008367
"Him"

>>75008367
Who’s laughing, Fags on 4chan?

>>75008204
No, you are claiming. There's a clear voice on the eviltoaster POV that repeats the things shown in text from Zen's POV. Everyone else can hear the male voice except you. Even the people that deny it being Zen can hear it. You are the ONLY ONE saying that there is no voice.

>>75008367
>him

>>75008444
I said I only hear static you fucking dumbass. People can different noises you know

>>75008334
this faggot doesn't know how google works

>>75008334
If it was an actual Zen fan they would've used a more recent picture and simply said something "I love my wife zen" instead of making an obviously provoking post to attract antis.

>>75008334
>N-No u

>>75008390
nah "her" with dick LMAO

Did Nijii implode again? Threads like tend to pop up when they do

>>75008402
>clown being retarded
lol,lmao even

Why is it a problem that this vtuber uses TTS but not a problem when others use voice changers?

>>74972125
i'm sorry about the bait threads about your husband

>>75008641
Sure pal

>>75008603
A lot of sisters and niji streamers are gacha addicts so I assume it's because of the VShojo x Nikke collab announcement.

>>75008494
And I said you're pretending to be deaf.

>>75008861
I hear what I hear. You hear what you hear. Not that hard to comprehend

>>75008855
Expalins the ESL

>>74968731
I hate her because she won't show up at my house and feed me her throbbing tranny cock.

>>75008505
A three year old image with no relevancy is not going to pop up on google image search.

>>75008506
If it was an actual anti they would have lifted an image straight from the latest /vsj+/

>>75009203
It's okay OP, try to be more subtle next time.

>>75008956
And that means you are either actually deaf or just pretending. Not that hard to comprehend.

>>75007168
This might blow your mind, but people lie on the internet about who they are all the time. Way back before your time, there used to be scams saying that they are nigerian princes and will give you part of their fortune if you help them out.

Ignore the gender shit? Has this vtuber done any bad shit?

>>75009203
nigga are you retard or OP? If you are OP, you are a retard too

The two biggest lies in vshojo
>zen is a female
>ironmouse has disease
And vshojo thrive over the lies

>>75012597
Besides aggressively trying to protect the lie, not to my knowledge.

>>74968731
aye

>>75013178
based take king

>>74968731
>her
lol

>>75012597
Zen is beloved by everyone else in VShojo, previous members of VShojo, and half the Twitch liggers. Their only crimes are pissing off doxxers who don't have much to work with (based), and trolling their friends a bit too much in co-op games which makes spergs in chat seethe.

>>74983941
This is the worst take I've ever seen