/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>7480579
For newfriends / fa/tg/uys: this is a Chronicles of Darkness (CofD) homebrew being played by the fabulous ladies of Hololive English, running under the Hunter: the Vigil module. As most of the players are new to the world of tabletop RPGs, this campaign is being played as more of learning experience, with fun and entertainment the primary goals.

THE CAST:

>Mori Calliope
as THE STORYTELLER.
Everyone's beloved, buxom, pink-haired, adorably awkward boomer reaper. A solid journeyman in playing tabletop, she is the acting GM and organizer of this campaign.
>Takanashi Kiara
as TIARA
An explosively extroverted phoenix and savvy owner of the moderately popular fast food franchise, Kiara Fried Phoenix (KFP). Her experience in TTRPGs is limited to a small amount of DnD played as a child. Her character is Tiara, a nobly born foreigner with a talent for handguns and communicating with birbs, particularly her pet owl, Uhu.
>Ninomae Ina'nis
as YUUL
A soft-spoken, sweet-natured priestess of the Deep Ones, also a talented artist whose character renditions has fueled the flood of Huntermyth fanart. A newbie in the realm of TTRPGs. Her character is Yuul B. Alwright, a sleep-deprived college student with a talent for academics, crafts, and vehicular homicide.
>Amelia Watson
as WATOTO
An animal-loving time traveler and detective with a rough-and-tumble approach to life. Yet another newcomer to the realm of TTRPGs. Her character is Watoto, a paranoid, conspiratorial dealer of herbal concoctions and drugs who holds his own with rough street charisma and his fists.
>Gawr Gura
as SCOUT
An infectiously amiable shark, long-time resident of the underwater kingdom of Atlantis. She is also new to TTRPGs, but don't let that fool you, her roleplay and improv performance so far has been nothing less than masterful. After going through multiple drafts and iterations, she has settled upon the party's final character: an illiterate, tough-as-nails country blacksmith named Scout, a melee and survival powerhouse.

Nice previous thread link

>>7480579
Some WoD Lore from a humble /tg/ anon for those here not familiar with Hunter: The Vigil.

>What is World of Darkness
World of Darkness is a Urban-Fantasy Horror brand and setting created by White Wolf Publishing and now owned by Paradox Interactive Yes, that Paradox. The brand is famous for such games a Vampire: the Masquerade, Werewolf: the Apocalypse, Mage: the Ascension and even some vidya such as VTM:Bloodlines.
The setting takes place in a gothic-punk interpretation of our modern times in which the supernatural is real. Ghosts, Fairies, Vampires, Werewolves, Wizards, ect... its all as real in WoD. These beings all hide from humanity under the veil of secrecy. As to why, humanity once dropped two nukes on itself in order to deal with other humans causing problems. If humanity ever found out about the existence of the supernatural, it would probably go to lengths that would make WWII look like a Sunday service. So the supernatural see fit to exists in the shadows and within the corner of your eye. Silently feeding off off an ignorant humanity.
Setting-wise just think of the movie Blade, the Underworld series or a more Grimdark version of TV shows like Supernatural or Buffy and you've got a rough idea of what to expect.

>Who are Hunters.
An easy answer is just me telling you to "go look in the mirror". Hunters are just average Joes and Janes. Folks that have had a peek behind the veil and seen the supernatural. Whether they saw a young girl get snatched by the boogieman, figured out their boss is in fact a literal blood sucking demon, or accidentally clicked on the wrong webm on a mongolian basket weaving forum. Either way the true nature of the world has been revealed to them and there is no going back. Some folks try to feign a normal life, praying that the revealed horrors never notice their newfound awareness they usually do. Some become reclusive shut-ins, praying that they'll be eaten last which they won't be. Others carve wooden stakes, meltdown silver heirlooms, and grab grandpa's double barrel shotgun.
Hunter is about those folks, sworn to banish the darkness, drive the rats from their holes, and Light Up The Night. All while trying to maintain their sanity. Let's face it, watching a vampire magically reshape your friend's skeleton as if his bones were made of play-dough while your dog's blood begins to boil out of each and every one of his orifices, is not good for ones mental health. Especially when that shit happens almost on a monthly basis. It is World of Darkness after all.

>Why is it called Hunter: The Vigil?
Because hunting is a never ending cycle. One day a human sees the supernatural and becomes a hunter. The human becomes a fire in the darkness turning the shadows back. The hunter continues to hunt, his sanity slowly grinding away at the horrors they've seen and the sins they've committed. One day they may save a young boy from becoming some bloodsuckers midnight snack. They take the boy under their wing and teach them the trade. A flame is kindled. Now two flames work keeping the darkness at bay. One day the hunter's luck runs out or his mind breaks under all the horror. The hunter dies but the boy, now a man, goes on. Carrying the flame that was given to him by the hunter. The vigil marches on and the cycle begins anew.

>>7480579
>>7480647
Woops! Sry bruh, I'm drunk

Previous thread: >>7235059

>>7480579
Hunters generally organize themselves into organizations that can be divided out into three tiers. Cells, Compacts and Conspiracies.

>Cells
From the lone wolf to the local book club. These groups are made up of a handful of hunters who have come together to deal with the nightmares pray on humanity. Whether its the ghoul down the street selling vampire blood to kids, werewolves killing humans for sport, or the haunted mansion at the top of the hill that needs to be investigated. These guys are often humanities first line of defense against the creatures of the night. Their small size means they are quite agile and stealthy in the field and can go years without being detected by their targets until they strike. Yet Cells are typically isolated in terms of support, operating on limited resources and scraps of knowledge. As such they often take on threats with the resources they can get their hands on. Casualty rates can be quite high in an already ridiculously lethal profession. In the end Hunter Cells either get destroyed, disband after the threat(s) have been dealt with, or they survive and continue the hunt and may even later grow and become Compacts.

>Compacts
Two hunter cells oblivious to each other kick in the door to a vampire haven at the same time, hilarity ensues. Two cells make contact discussing witch covens on /x/ and arrange a meet up. However it happens, sometimes hunter cells run into other hunter cells. Most hunters agree that there is safety in numbers and that taking on the supernatural is a lot easier when you have n+1 members at your back. So they start to coordinate, share resources, and work to cover a larger area. For these groups, the hunt never ends. Compact members stand ready at a moment's notices for the call to mobilize. Compacts tend to operate on a regional scale but aren't large enough to become full nation spanning conspiracies.

>Conspiracies
Here be ye BPRD, Delta Green, SCP:Foundation and the lot. Ultra-secretive, these organizations can span entire nations and even reach across the entire globe. Before you ask, yes the Pope is involved. They have the money, the men, the means and their men are equipped with all the latest toys to take on almost any threat anywhere. These guys are who the monsters fear when they hear a bump in the night. Seriously, according to NWoD lore in 2008 the NSA cracked Shreknet which was the super-sekret darkweb used by vampires to communicate with each other across the globe. Needless to say the fallout was biblical, the clans were decimated and several clan elders were killed in coordinated surgical strikes across the globe led by various groups such as Taskforce: VALKYRIE, The US Governments response to the Supernatural, and the Malleus Maleficarum, a holy order led by the Catholic Church told you that hunt monsters.

>Some Notable Compacts and Conspiracies
There are a lot of compacts and Conspiracies in WoD lore, both old and new. I'll list a few over the next few days while posting WoD and Hunter Lore.

The Union
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9chF9gYZqI [Embed]
An all American compact made up of a rag-tag collection regular average Joes who work hard protecting their homes and families from the things that go bump in the night.
Arguably one of the newest compacts on the scene. Forming back in the early 2000's though some groups can trace their origins back to individual cells dating back to the early 1900's forming out of various labor unions. The Union tends to opt for a more defensive NIMBY posture regarding the supernatural. They don't actively hunt supernatural creatures unless they come knocking on Union turf at which point The Union will swiftly brings the hammer down. Cells range from your average (if up gunned) neighborhood watch to backwoods militias operating out of a compound in the country.

Night Watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByT0FErPgfQ [Embed]
Started by a homeless Vietnam Veteran, the son of a murdered cop, and their gang-banger buddies in the lawless ghettos of Pittsburgh during the 1980's. These guys got sick and tired of watching their friends, family and neighbors get eaten by vampires and decided to take the fight to them. Their first raid against a vampire haven and their ghoul stooges was such a success that it led their neighborhood to rise up in revolt against their bloodsucking overlords and drove them out of the city. Made up of the homeless and downtrodden. These guys patrol the streets and protect the meek from those that would make a meal out of them. They also fight crime and work to clean up communities they set up shop in. They run several community outreach programs to help folks get back on their feet, clean up the streets, and keep kids out of prison. Though these are often a cover to recruit new hunters.
Imagine the Guardian Angles from New York City during the 80's and you've got the right idea.

>>7480729

lmfao >>7441696

>>7480579
Finally, OP's special message to the fine ladies of Hololive English (implying they'd ever be caught dead visiting this dump):

A massive, Mori-melon-sized thanks to each and every one of you for all of your hard work in the creation of the Huntermyth series. This is a truly unique phenomenon for both the tabletop and vtuber community. Your collective efforts have blessed us with incalculable levels of joy, inspiration, and entertainment, and no amount of gratitude could ever hope to match it.

And a very, VERY special thanks to Mori Calliope, chief architect of this project. You are truly an exceptional person and one of the best DMs to grace the realm of tabletop. We love you so much for all you've given us so far, and pray that this campaign will be just one of hundreds, no THOUSANDS of the Huntermyth series.

>>7480768
LEL. Sorry I'm a mess tonight. Guess it's in character, considering the session.

REAL PREVIOUS SESSION HERE: >>7480768

>>7479718
>Court of Mirrors
The what

>>7480579
OP’s Totally Legit Review of session 2:
Woof, what a mess. Technical issues, abysmal decisions, botched rolls all over. This one definitely could have used some more polish, but let’s be constructive:
-Calli pushing the flowers on the party. Took them a while to grasp it, but the flowers as a critical plot point was reached by Tiara and Watoto, and it saved them in the end. All in all very well done.
-Splitting the party. Part of me wishes Calli had put her foot down and refused a party split, but letting the girls learn by mistake is part of the experience. Big blunder in terms of success, but it aided in the overall plot.
-Watoto / Amelia. You made some horrible fuck ups, all of it tied to your pathological animal loving. I hope you’re reading this right now, Ame. You are too much of an animal lover, and I say this as one myself. Some animals deserve human compassion. Others do not. I have raised cattle, equines, and pigs, and part of loving animals is knowing when to put them down. Feral dogs attacking our herds, venomous snakes, snapping turtles, sometimes an animal lover has to know when to kill as well as when to spare. And you fucked up royally. Those dogs meant you harm; Tiara was right to try and kill them, and only by Calli’s grace did you avoid a horrible mauling. Don’t make this mistake ever again.
-Yuul / Scout. Pretty good overall, but Scout’s inexplicable agitation of the forest was a massive WTF moment, but they performed admirably. Hats off to Yuul for gathering lore info and diffusing the tension when everyone wanted to outright slaughter the fay sniper. INA WAS MVP FOR THIS SESSION, HANDS DOWN.
-Tiara acted logical for the most part. Climbing up to observe, trying to engage the sniper in combat was what any new player would have done. I’m giving Kiara a pass; she made some missteps here and there, but she knew how to play, and her outburst over the unused walkie-talkies made me happy. The walkie-talkies were supposed to be central to communication, and nobody used them well except her.

Overall:
>Mori
7/10. Ya did good, girl. Take a rest. Just don’t forget to write down everyone’s inventory. And give us an update on those character sheets, please!
>Kiara
8/10. Logical choices, some small missteps. Good RP, and good decision to keep the sniper rifle. Good work.
>Ina
9/10. Good rolls, good decisions, remained level-headed, gathered info and items as needed to help the party. MVP OF THE SESSION
>Amelia
4/10. You fucked up. Bad. Bad decisions. A less merciful GM would have killed you in this encounter. Please remember what you’re up against, Ame. We love you, but good God don’t make such poor decisions!
>Gura
6/10. Don’t agitate nature, please. Decent overall, but early session fuckups really dragged you down. Good work on rescuing Yuul. Good job on the scavenging + shovelling of the fay. Keep up the assertiveness, and you’ll do well. Just think before you act!

Final grade of the session- 5/10. It was overall weak, somewhat hampered by technical issues, but it had some great moments. Calli, Calli, Calli: REMIND THEM OF WILLPOWER. LADIES! EXPEND WILLPOWER! PLEASE!

Don't let this discourage you, though! We're all here to have fun and to improve. Don't be afraid to lean on us and ask for advice. Your community loves you all, so let's grow and improve together! Thank you for all of your hard work so far, we truly appreciate everything you've given us!

Posting the last character sheet for completion's sake.

>>7480975
Nice analysis. I wholeheartedly agree.
I feel that Kiara and Gura did about as well as they did last session, Ina did better and Watoto (obviously) did much worse. Mori did a little worse than she did last session, but I think that can be excused by jetlag.

>>7478826
Weak six to strong five. There was a lot of shit that felt like it didn't need to happen and while everyone seemed more confident that also lead to a higher confidence in simply going off in random direction screaming WHEEE.
Probably the second weakest entry after Kiara's intro.
Still fun, didn't turn me off the campaign, but overall way messier than it needed to be.
Oh and.
Gunplay aside, Kiara really redeemed herself this session.
>>7480975
I think "Listen to Ina, girls" is the unofficial motto of this session.
> 6/10. Don’t agitate nature, please. Decent overall, but early session fuckups really dragged you down. Good work on rescuing Yuul. Good job on the scavenging + shovelling of the fay. Keep up the assertiveness, and you’ll do well. Just think before you act!
Indeed. As I've positively noted before, but what makes Gura's RP work is that she knows when to push and knows when to just short-stop something that's about to get stale or noisome.

Overall good analysis.

I think what surprised me most this session was Calli not randomly getting fucked by travel shit.
She's not the luckiest person and it's Coofing Season.
She pretty much set herself up for utter failure but somehow managed to get through.
So big props to Calli for beating the dice IRL.

>>7480975
>Amelia 4/10. You fucked up. Bad. Bad decisions. A less merciful GM would have killed you in this encounter.
A less merciful GM would have at least punished her to some degree in order to create a sense of danger for the girls, especially since a carefree Ame was seemingly calling her bluff, and got away with it too.

>>7481228
>labors under the American rat race hard worker mentality
>pushes herself in three (maybe 4 directions)
>spreads herself so thin her performance suffers at times
Goddam there's times I wish I could be her platonic man-meido. I'd kill to be right next to her, even if it's just to keep her house clean and cook her fresh meals throughout the day. There's truly nothing worse than developing an impressive culinary repertoire, and having nobody to share it with. I'd be content with making her life easier, just to be closer to her.

What is going to change now that dumb bird has a sniper rifle?

>>7481182
>Gura's RP work is that she knows when to push and knows when to just short-stop something that's about to get stale or noisome.
Gura’s Scout character, and her ability to role play her so well, is the most enjoyable part of the game to me. The loss of pants again seems like a reoccurring thing. To me the enjoyment aspect is more important than wondering if she did something “right” or “wrong.”

>>7481460
This is what irked me last session: the party was being shot at, and Tiara DID NOT SHOOT BACK. Now she's got both close range and long range weapons. She's nicely geared for any combat encounters. And if Calli's indications are any hint, this fay sniper rifle has some unique qualities.

>>7480975
You covered a lot of the major points. Looking back Ina and Kiara did well this session using the environment to solve (or in the walkie talkie case, create) problems. I am really glad Kiara didn't meta game and created that whole tense discovery by Sniff into an ambush; truly the highlight of the session. I liked the previous session better (having finished the last half before they started helped) due to better interplay with RP and less overtly bad decisions.

Like I posted before the thread death, Calli is being a little too generous at times with the crafting, especially since everyone can throw at least 4 if not 7+ dice at an attempt. I am firmly in the Yes and/but school of GMing, but time, materials, and feasibility need to be more of a factor.

Overall in terms of skill checks and roleplaying they are getting better, but when combat really hits is when things might go downhill. A pregame combat practice would definitely be good before Calli throws a real challenge at them. Just doing a run through of initiative and combat merits will save everyone trouble in the future.

>>7480975
Weird review. Watoto liking the dogs and then running/climbing away when he realized they were hostile monsters was funny. He then tried thinking outside the box on how to pacify them.
Tiara just shot the dogs, including the one that seemed somewhat pacified. And she also didn't duck when she saw a sniper. Not too smart.
But the point of the game is really just to be entertaining and I think they were all doing well at that.

>>7481528
Shooting back at a sniper when you only have crappy pistols is not very smart.

>>7481546
I was absolutely certain there would be combat here. Them in a favorable flank position vs. Sniff and the two vine hounds. Seemed a fair matchup. I can bet you Calli was intending for combat, but had to ditch it in the end. From what I glanced in the /tg/ thread, those vine hounds are actually pretty tough, so mayhap it would've been a bit too much for them. Which seems to be the general theme of HtV, a bunch of regular Joe Shmoes against overwhelming odds.

>>7481528
In session 1 they were driving around in a turbulent junkyard while being shot at. Tiara wouldn't have endangered herself by shooting back. In fact, she sent her owl out to scout; I was surprised Calli didn't punish her by having her owl wounded / killed for that decision.

>>7481770
Oops, meant to reply to >>7481676 too much booze tonight.

>>7481770
>I was surprised Calli didn't punish her
After today’s stream, it’s pretty obvious that Mori isn’t big on consequences.

>>7481420
Eh. I can intellectually understand that desire, but personally I'd rather just learn how to do what she does. I'd rather have her as my mentor than wife/gf/whatever.

>>7481812
From what I've witnessed so far, it seems WoD doesn't allow much room for error. I mean, TT in general is pretty unforgiving for the most part, but stupid decisions require consequences, and it can be hard to narrow the gap between a GM punishment and outright death, given the situation.

Probably the weakest session so far for me just because of some outright frustrating decisions made, like Watoto actively trying to commit suicide by approaching aggressive dogs and Scout being pointlessly murderous seemingly for jokes. At least the girls themselves seem more comfortable than ever this session, Calli just needs to scare them a little more to keep them in check. Calli completely forgot to remind them about willpower so she was probably dead tired from her flight.

Is it normal to write down what you have on you when you play TTRPGs? It feels like the girls often forget stuff they have, like Ina almost forgetting her taser and Gura using a shovel instead of her pickaxe.

>>7480975
>INA WAS MVP FOR THIS SESSION
It’s a big improvement from her minimal involvement last session besides the chase scene. What I enjoyed the most was seeing all the girls be more comfortable with each other

>>7481883
>Is it normal to write down what you have on you when you play TTRPGs?
Depends but I wouldn't call it uncommon

>>7481591
Ame and Kiara had intentions crossed and hurt that encounter. Had they gone fully kill or pacify the dogs would not have been as big an annoyance for me. I place more the blame on Ame because Calli clearly said these were not regular dogs and were in fact just dog shaped vine monsters. Still it got rid of the last Deus Ex Mushroom and that is a big win for the game to be honest. Ame is my oshi but she has the most potential to derail through forcing dumb plans out of all of the players so taking the easy gimme from the mushroom will hopefully have her think more practically while still outside the box.

>>7481708
I think Calli did not call for combat in the house because the session was running out of time and nothing stops pacing quite like rolling for initiative. If Calli is smart, or reading the thread, she should go over combat between sessions before dropping them into their first fight, which almost undoubtedly will be next time.

>>7482006
And also use the xp spending time to fix merit and specialisations, it came up in the session and was a weird speedbump. Stuff like that could be avoided with a bit of a tweak on the sheet.

>>7481878
WoD is definitely a game that goes in on making damage hurt a lot, so I wouldn't be surprised if Mori didn't want to hurt the PCs too much before the actual first mission at the vampire ball.

>>7482006
They should have a normal fight against few minions. Maybe two ghouls or something like that. They really need to grasp basic mechanics or it's going to be a disaster the moment first serious battle happens.

>>7481834
Sometimes exceptional people just need a little help. Mayhap you're a young one, but in my old age I've come to see potential in people get buried by corporeal needs and earthly responsibilities. There's nothing wrong with elevating others to their full potential; oftimes that's all some of us need is a little boost. Calli truly strikes me as one such individual.

>>7481883
A character sheet should have those written down, but nothing stops a player from just writing down anything they want/feel to be relevant, like character names or information in general.

>>7482077
Can they even realistically fight anything? I mean they are just humans, how could they face vampires without getting ripped apart?

>>7481812
Honestly, that was a really fucked situation for Calli because they're in front of a big audience of people who don't actually want the girls to die and it's still so early in the session (they literally haven't even started their first mission, this was a detour). Ame really fucked any chance of a realistic resolution for that scenario when she decided to commit suicide by dropping off the hedge and walking towards the dogs that Kiara just shot.

If Calli chooses to have the dogs act realistically and attack her, Watoto either dies, which would bum out 15k viewers and ruin the mood of the campaign before it even starts, or gets mauled, which means they both die or Tiara will need to pull off some BS to get them both out of a heavily disadvantaged situation. I think once Ame made her decision, she forced Calli's hand to pull off some deus ex machina BS since that is preferable to someone dying on a detour to their first mission.

You might be fine with killing off your buddy in your campaign on the 2nd session and have them make a new character or w/e, but Mythbreakers is a big live-streamed project that Calli has spent a ridiculous time planning for, so killing someone off isn't an easy decision to make for the sake of realism. She has to account for what the audience thinks too.

>>7482115
4 vs 1 they can. With right equipment.

>>7482089
But it is kinda of the cringiest sort of simping there is.

>>7482115
Have you ever played CoC, you should see the power difference there man.

did anything interesting happen in the first hour? missed it and started watching 5 mins before tiara got shot with fake bullets.

>>7482115
Track a vamp and invade during the day. Or snipe. Or set explosives. There are usually ways to do it.

>>7482308
Not really. Splitting up was a big mistake.

>>7482115
With preparation and fire, mostly.

>>7481883
Depends on the game exactly but for CofD you tend to have your weapons and armour, and their stats, listed as well as "equipment". Which is just stuff you have on you that might has some sort of rules. You wouldn't really put something like your clothes down, unless your clothes are special, but something like a lockpicking kit would. They're using R20, and the sheet on there has basically infinite space for whatever they'd want to write down. So they should really be taking notes. Notes are important. If you want to see what sheets can look check this link out. Some people will only use the first sheet, some might use the first 2, or you could use all 4 to have a lot of detail. Depends on the game
https://mrgone.rocksolidshells.com/pdf/NWOD/CofD_GodMachine_4-Page_Interactive.pdf

>>7482333
Sniping isn't usually a good option, if you're up against "creeps" or "beasts" then they may very well vanish before you can even fill them with bashing.

>>7482124
This is honestly a great assessment of that situation. What do you do in front of an audience when a player essentially commits a suicidal act? Go balls deep and make them pay for their hubris, or salvage the session? Not to bring in Critical Role, but Matt Mercer did something similar, and just so happened to kill off the party's openly gay member, igniting a Twitter shitstorm that ultimately gimped every session since.

Calli is playing a precarious balancing act, and sometimes it can be difficult to satisfy both sides. I have naught but sympathy for her, and wish her the best in her GM'ing (and that her party can stop being so goddam stupid).

>>7482238
It's just wishful drunkposting, anon. There's no shame in it, considering where we are right now.

I ended up not watching the 1st session (figured it would just be kinda awkward as all the girls learned to play together). Is it worthwhile to watch all/parts of it, or should I just jump into the second session? I've watched their individual sessions, so I know the characters themselves, just not the current situation.

>>7482463
Watch it. It's a little slow at the start, but it ramps up pretty damn good later.

>>7482463
Honestly, if you don't have 3 hours to spare, you can probably watch a highlight reel of it. There was a lot of set up and the campaign ended in the middle of a detour to their first mission.

>>7482420
Depends. Plenty of things will die to headshots.

>>7482463
Watch the first session. It was fun, although had some dumb shit in it.

>>7482308
-They split up despite chat and Calli telling them it was a bad idea.
-Watoto and Tiara flirted some more and exchanged some flowers they found which unintentionally saved Tiara's ass later.
-Scout and Yuul (mostly Scout) tried to cut their way through a dense part of the forest only to hurt it (maybe even killed a person) and almost got absorbed by the forest. Scout took off her pants again to pull Yuul through a gap in the hedge.

I think that was about it.

>>7482519
Not vampires though, which is what we're talking about. All that does is slightly annoy them. Also, good luck making that shot it's -5.

>>7482570
The flowers were a critical plot point. Calli introduced them very early; Tiara and Watoto acting on them was very intelligent, if a bit belated. When the GM draws attention to something more than once, the rational choice would be to PAY ATTENTION TO IT.

We need to teach Kiara how guns work.

Also, was uhu left behind in the Hedge?

>>7482572
Head is -3 and upgrades damage type so it's lethal not bashing. With marksman, aiming and scope you can easily get +8 dice. So even with headshots it's still +5. With 3 successes it's already 7 damage. Do it with two people and even vampire will need to waste a lot of blood to heal that.

>>7482442
>Matt Mercer did something similar, and just so happened to kill off the party's openly gay member, igniting a Twitter shitstorm that ultimately gimped every session since.
LOL Twittards freaking out are retarded, but ya for a long campaign that is streamed in front of an audience of this size, it's more about creating a fun storyline that keeps the players and audience invested rather than creating a fully authentic TTRPG experience. I do still think she needs to remind the players to not pull BS like that and put her in such a shitty position.

A part of me also wonders if Calli is worried that Ame will get mad at her for killing Watoto for being an animal lover. To a TTRPG autist, Ame's decision deserved a brutal consequence, but if you know your pathological animal lover friend is breaking character to do something stupid, killing them for it might be kinda awkward.

>>7482124
>>7482442
My main concern as a viewer is losing some of the entertainment value I get from the girls being in danger, particularly when I noticed they would be fine no matter what.

The players aren't familiar with the setting and aren't understanding the danger of threats they know nothing about so its probably best they are moveing on to the vampire party so they can start getting hurt and learning how dangerous this world is against enemies they do somewhat understand so the next time an unknown threat appears they will have enough self preservation instilled in them to not immediately try and poke it with a stick.

>>7482673
>was uhu left behind
No. Explicitly called out he was fine.

>>7482811
Yuul almost died in one hit. They should understand by now.

>>7482794
That's understandable, which is why it's the GM's job to find a balance for that. I was just saying in that particular situation, it seemed Calli was fucked into choosing an asspull or a death the moment Ame decided to try committing suicide. Calli also doesn't want them to be grievously injured before their first mission, since she said the full heal she gave Yuul was a one-time thing.

Let's be honest, do you think any of the girls would die before the last session? Don't forget this campaign is Calli's attempt to get them into TTRPG so they'll do more in the future.

is limb loss a thing? even if you didnt want to kill them watoto loosing a few fingers or tiara having brain damage would make sense

>>7482855
Yuul understands, but it seems like no one else does lol. Watoto survived her tutorial by making a pact with the Wyrm ffs.

>>7480975
Was it autism?

>>7482794
I'm positive that an average viewer can tell Calli is pulling punches for the sake of keeping the game engaging and characters living to see the end of their arcs, and not running them through a Tomb of Horrors.

Honestly I blame Gura for pushing her randumb ideas. Rest just kinda went along with it. Splitting up and cutting the trees was just stupid.

>>7482855
Yes but I think not being alone like in their tutorials has caused them to throw some of their caution to the wind. And to be fair Yuul didn't really do anything stupid or reckless during the session so I think Ina did learn her lesson to atleast some degree.

>>7482694
You're right, it is -3. But it's just stunned (if you do [Size] damage) while circumventing armour if they lack a helmet. It doesn't upgrade damage. I don't think any sort of scope was mentioned on the rifle she has, but even if there were it just mitigates ranged penalties. Aiming can offset the headshot penalty but she still only has 6 dice. Which is like 7 damage on average, which isn't going to drop them. Then if they have any dots in Celerity you're not likely to get another shot on them. So you sort of need multiple snipers, likely 3 but you'd want 4 to be safe, and a clear shot, and there only be 1 vamp to deal with, before it becomes an effective means of killing one. It's just not that great a tactic

>>7482910
Of course. You can have permanent damage, scars, limb loss, gained flaws etc.

>>7480897
Basically in Princess, the Hopeful, the kingdoms of light got buttfucked by the forces of darkness.
Most of the Queens ruling died then proceeded to reincarnate around the time of the moon landing, one turned into a living storm of fuck you, one saved her kingdom by stealing hope from Earth, and the Queen of Mirrors escaped and didn't look back.
The magical girls pledge their allegiance to one of the reincarnated queens, or the other three, who tend to be more morally ambiguous than their counterparts.
Mirror for example tells every girl she recruits that they're the true heir that will save the world and do everything perfectly without breaking a sweat. Which causes trouble when two Mirror girls meet each other, as they believe the other one is nothing but a fake.
The magic the Mirror gives you encourages you to be a spotlight-hogging bitch and takes your magic away for the day if you show any humility. Also it causes madness in whoever uses it, but that's a separate issue.

>>7482974
She not pulling punches, she's not throwing any at all. Just a few points of Lethal will make something seem scary.

>>7482115
Didn't Kiara already do that? 3v1 at that.

>>7483141
Bashing to the head upgrades to lethal. But it's up to the GM if that works on vamps or at all. Some do double damage from headshots too. It says extra effects from hits to the head are up to GM.

>>7482774
I say this as the OP who wrote up the review, Ame is very clearly an "urban animal lover". She has pets, she loves her pets, and she cannot fathom harming an animal. She raised an impressive amount of money for no-kill shelters, which is extremely commendable, and I have no doubt her intentions are anything but pure.

But her outlook on animal treatment is very narrow. I was raised on a cattle ranch. We have our beloved dogs, cats, cows, equines, and pigs, but sometimes harsh reality comes at you, and animals simply have to be killed. Feral dog / coyote hybrids try to kill our calves and pups, so we shoot them dead without hesitation. It's their lives or the lives of our cattle. Elderly livestock have to be sold off and killed, elsewise they give birth to calves and cannot feed them colostrum, and then the calves simply die.

Ame doesn't see any animals as deserving of death. Any animal can be redeemed in her eyes. She comes from a noble mindset, but ultimately it's incorrect, and as we saw in this session, it would have resulted in disaster, had Calli not been there to bail her out.

Sorry for the tangent, I just felt the need to explore the psychological aspect Watoto's decision.

>>7482256
in a real CoC game, you never fight anything bigger than a Byakhee. and i recommend at least 1 heavy weapon vs. Byakhee. and Shotgun Slugs. and Chains.

>>7483211
In tutorial and with very wonky rules. In reality when vampire gets into grapple with you it's basically over.

>>7482124
It's also an introduction to the other girls. Ironically I think it would hurt her more than the other girls if she killed one of them, since she wants this to be a full-gen bonding experience hosted by herself.

>>7483276
Not anywhere I've seen. Even in nWoD that was only a potential effect on the ST. Can't say I saw any double damage headshot rules in either.

>>7482910
Yup. It's basically all done through narrative stuff though, there isn't a hard system for inflicting them. Basically though the rule of thumb is "If the player wants to lose a limb, then that's what happens". Then you just deal with it through Persistent Conditions/Tilts

>>7482850
Do you have a time stamp because I lost track of Uhu during the sniping portion and he didn't seem to be mentioned again. He probably was with Tiara but i can't remember if she sent him out again.

>>7482124
>>7482442
>>7482774
>>7482794
>>7482905
Calli is walking a tough tightrope both on a player/GM level and a streamer/audience level. I don't envy her having to make tough calls like this. A one to one with Ame reminding her of the dangers or at least a decent wounding next time something like this comes up might help, but ultimately it has to come to her deciding whether to break immersion and preserve the fun for the players/casuals or to punish and teach properly and potentially ruin ttrpgs for someone and cause a shitshow on twitter. At the end of the day this is geared more toward nonplayers than fa/tg/uys so I expect more RP and pulled punches, yet I hope the final session to be the one where someone gets fucked over, if not killed outright, when they do something foolish.

>>7483470
>Do you have a time stamp
No, but i'm not lying. You just gotta' believe me bro.

>>7483282
Personally I think it makes for an interesting character flaw, as long as she and the others are aware of it so they can be around to help her in those situations

i honestly would not mind seeing them play in a WoD Chronicles game of something like FightClub or Breaking Bad.
....seeing the girls almost die each session, then doing a 3 month timeskip so everyone can get back to full health would be great.
I wanna see how each of the girls acts in a scene where they can kill someone.
given this session, i'd predict:
>Kiara would do it cold.
>Gura would do it Duke Nukem style
>Ame would probably have to get used to it, and might be rational just before.
>Ina would probably have an existential crisis and weep in a corner.

Complete lack of tension really hurt that game. It's no longer a horror when nothing bad can happen. And Gura was really acting full retard at the beginning. They should get punished for trying to hurt the trees for sure.

>>7483470
I think it was when she climbed up on the hedges with Watoto's help. She very clearly announced Uhu's return to her, and Tiara hugged him tightly. It's pretty clear Kiara loves her bird, and if Calli makes the decision to kill him at some point in the campaign, I have no doubt it will break her heart.

>>7483470
I wouldn't be surprised if Mori treats Season 1 as the playground where things are nice and easy, but then go harder on season 2 where the players are (hopefully) more aware of how much the dice and mess their characters.

>>7483341
Very much depends on the vampire, they're not actually any better than humans are at grappling by default. Outside of their bite they're kinda just the same, a good human grappler can just fucking ruin most of them unless they're specced into Vigor

>>7483470
It's somewhere in the last 17 minutes when they get back. Kiara asked did uhu made it through and Callie said yes.

>>7483141
If they don't have high fortitude taking 10-12 bashing damage a turn is still going to fuck them up pretty fast.

And when dealing with werewolves or changelings silver bullet to the head will work wonders.

People praising yuul but I genuinely don't remember a single thing she did in the entire session.
Just pure story telling wise the maze session and the final Meetup was the best part and I can't remember any memorable yuul moments there.

>>7483834
Sure, if you can manage it at all. It working in the niche case it works isn't the problem with it, it's the fact it's a really niche case. But even a couple of points of Resilience is a couple of points of Health, and a couple of points of general armour. Changelings also don't give a shit about silver, but we were talking about vampires.

>>7483945
Yuul kept a level head and didn't make any critically stupid decisions. She made good rolls, made good decisions, and when everyone wanted to turn the fay sniper into hamburger meat, she calmly told everyone to be reasonable and question him first. It's not that she did anything exceptional, more that she didn't make any critical fuckups when everyone else was going full retard.

>>7484077
Tbf I can see why others would go full retard
Tiara - literally got shot by him and almost mauled by his dogs. There's no real reason to be merciful in this scenario
Watoto - might have been dumb to try to save the dogs but even in his introduction he was trying to free the werewolves (which he didn't know who they were) so full retard animal lover is actually just part of the roleplay
Scout - uhhhh gura is just turning into "that guy"

>>7482673
>We need to teach Kiara how guns work.
seconded
and second.five.

seriously, if you wanna play a gunfighter, learn some basics.

>>7484077
The tired voice of reason character turned out to be the tired voice of reason character?
Drop me down a well and call me Betsy, I never saw that one coming.

>>7483945
Yuul was the one that held Tiara and Scout from killing the Sniper just because they could. Not sure if there were going to be big repercussions for that, but murdering a prisoner who you struck a deal with isn't a great look or particularly in-character for either girl.

>>7483515
>>7483604
>>7483697
I'll take your words for it. While it would have made an interesting plot point to have Uhu left behind in the Hedge, especially as leverage for Sniff to exact revenge, taking him away twice in three sessions would be a dick move given how much Kiara invested Tiara into having him.

I can't wait to see what kind of revenge Sniff will exact long term. Out tricking a fae is both awesome and a great way to set up another long term antagonist.

>>7484013
With 3-4 people and decent guns doing 10+ damage a round is not really hard at all. Problems start when they have disciplines at 4+.

>>7484341
Tiara had a good reason to do it. Scout is just full murderhobo at this point.

Did Mori mention what kind of changelling Sniff was? I think it'd be cool if he was part of the next drawing stream, just to see how she depicts him.

>>7484469
Now you're just talking in circles. I already mentioned that, needing more people is not exactly a plus in the plans favor.

>>7484490
No, but pretty heavy hints he's a Darkling. No Kith mentioned though.

>>7484470
Gura is unfortunately going the lolsorandumb route since last game. It can work against lone changeling but if they try to pull shit like this at a vamp mansion it's either going to go horribly wrong or Mori will have to godmode them again.

>>7484520
But that's how hunters always work? Guns may do bashing to vampires but you still bypass defense so it's better than others options. With rifles just one success means 5 damage.

>>7484734
Hunter typically don't all spec into the exact same thing to snipe lone vampires in open spaces. They use teamwork and Tactics to apply their own specialties to benefit the whole Cell. There is, in fact, a single tactic that rolls firearms for both the primary and secondary actors that could potentially work on vamps. Would you like to know what it is? It's Flintlock Reload. Sitting on a hill all sniping isn't how Hunters work.

>>7485018
All you need is 2-3 dots in guns. You still have 20 to put in other things.

>>7485149
You need to be rolling at least 6 dice to hit them super reliably, but that's sort of not the point at all. It's a dumb plan even if it needed not sort of investment.

Watoto Nokia very reliable.

I am very excited to see how they're going to handle the Malkavians. I cannot express just how much even reading into their base lore has excited me about this.

did we get any new scout art bros?

>>7483644
Vampire grappling trick is Physical Intensity (+2 dice per Vitae, can be used as many times on single action as Vitae spending limit allows) and Frenzy (+Blood Potency to combat dice pools). In general, a completely new vampire in frenzy can throw 6-8 dice at Vitae cost (2 Att + 1 Skill + 2 PI + 1 BP), which is already on par with skilled (not the best) grapplers.

After the intros I thought that the party would be Gura and Kiara acting as protagonists with occasional rivalry, Ina being quite sidekick and Ame being lolsorandom character who ruins the campaign.

Oh boy was I wrong. So far Ame, even though she acting illogical, is pushing the story, interacting with stuff and creating memorable situations.

I missed the first half so I watched the VOD again from the start while doing some chores and I wonder how many people, players and viewers included, didn't understand that Watoto actually won the 1d2 coinflip during the infamous mushroom scene because it said "0 successes" on screen. Like it was still pretty BS, but between "0 successes" on screen, Calli not explaining that it was actually a success, and all the other girls going "oh no...", it felt even more like Calli was just pulling random shit to salvage the situation. A really confusing moment of the stream imo that could have easily been clarified.

Calli did say that she just got off a plane so she was likely not on her A-game. It was just weird seeing her going like "yes! I have an out now." when everyone else was like "oh no..." because they didn't know Watoto won the coinflip.

>>7490269
I mean as much as I love scout for being entertaining it shouldve been obvious from her intro that she wouldnt be the one pushing the story unless it required that dumb hick who cant read. Tbh i think watoto shouldve been the one with animal kin abilities instead of tiara.

>murderhobo scout
Isn't the point of scout's character to be the brash asshole that the others reign in? Maybe Gura poorly communicated that but it's not like Scout will ignore her teammates if they stop her and present some empathy or common sense. That's how I feel with after recently marathoned the TTRPG streams so far.

I just watched the session. Splitting up slowed the pace down a lot, but I don't have ADHD luckily. Really excited for the climax of Season 1: The Malkavian Vampire Mansion. It was pretty good.

>>7491474
I generally agree though I think killing or essentially leaving people in a state where they may very well die (the hobo) is a bit extreme hence why people attribute the murderhobo tag to scout.

>>7491699
It'll be interesting to see the full list of aggrievances Scout collects by the end of season 1.

Does everyone forget that from the girls perspective this Changling magicked them into some magic murder maze and tried to kill them with dogs and gunfire in the junkyard? Why do people think killing him should trigger a morality check? Scout roughed up Nice cause she didn’t trust city slickers this guy actually tried to kill her and her new friends.

Besides the murderhobo thing, I see a lot of people calling Gura/Scout "The Guy". I have 0 experience with tabletops but my understanding is they are basically my way or the high way. Is Gura doing that? Is my definition off? I genuinely can't tell.

>>7483191
What's the full setting if Princesses Hopeful?

I've enjoyed both sessions a lot. My only problem is with Gura, and Kiara to a lesser extent, interrupting Mori and trying to magic things/situations out of thin air. I'm fine with them being immoral muderhobos if that's who they want to be, but at least let the GM drive the story.

>Watoto should have died to show stakes!
He doesn't need to die, he could just get bitten. Remember, it takes seven lethal damage to incapacitate someone and even then they have time for first aid. If he gets bitten for three lethal it's not the end of the world.

>>7492193
>interrupting Mori and trying to magic things/situations out of thin air
Can you give me a clear example of this? I am so confused. I guess Kiara trying to outsnipe a sniper with her handgun was weird but what did Gura do that goes above that? Why didn't the watoto mushrooms for the dogs irk you?

I think going so long between sessions threw off their character/understanding of the world a bit. I wish they'd do this once a week or maybe once every 10ish days so they're doing 3 sessions a month at the very least.

>drawing your weapon is bow a reflexive action
This is a pretty useless merit, right? What ST makes pulling out your gun take up your whole instant action without some mitigating circumstances?

>>7490385
That instance was due to the prior setup.
Watoto set up the Sound gun to hurt the doggos, but failure meant that the sound did the opposite, i.e. made them happy.
I agree that it's kind of an OP weapon against animals as it is though, so I expect it to get nerfed.

>>7483005
>Honestly I blame Gura for pushing her randumb ideas. Rest just kinda went along with it. Splitting up and cutting the trees was just stupid.
Gura is incredibly socially dominant yeah.

>>7482910
By RAW taking aggravated damage to a limb means the limb is permanently gone

>>7492833
I think it was meant to be weekly (the tutorials were weekly) but people taking breaks made that impossible.

It is a shame. They really need a quick refresher on the rules before every session.

>Gura: We could split the party, that never goes wrong, haha!
>everyone else laughs at how dumb this is
>proceeds to split the party
Why the fuck are they like this? They knew it was dumb, and they chose to do it anyway. Somehow they managed to avoid consequences.

>>7493466
It was worth it for the Tiara/Watoto interaction at least.

>>7493466
Beginners and lack of complete failure/death. Also I don't really mind wacky decisions because they've been pretty entertaining.

>>7493274
It was always meant to be biweekly, it's been like that since they announced it

>>7493466
Tiara and Watoto are closer to fucking each other on stream so it's worth it.

Watching through last night's session again. I've noticed that Tiara ironically doesn't have a flight response and is all fight all the time, so I'm pretty worried about her and an extremely aggressive Scout at this supposedly high class Vampire party

>>7491835
I'm pretty sure in this context "that guy" refers to the player who socially dominates the party yet always goes for the randumb or rash options pulled out of their ass, basically for the sake of the lulz.

>>7491835
>>7494259
"That Guy" is anyone who ruins the fun of the group, could be in any fashion. As long as everyone is having fun, even if someone is doing stupid shit they're not That Guy
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/That_guy

Will Watoto make a contract with vampires?

Boys, Mori just said training wheels are being taken off next session.

Mori said it's time to take the training wheels off in the next session, she said she tried hard to hold back herself for punishing them

>>7496615
>>7496638
She also said not to tell anyone you FUCKS

>>7496583
Almost definitely

>>7496615
>>7496638
DYRBI

>>7496702
>Don't tell THE GIRLS

>>7482115
Exploit vampire weaknesses. Sun, Stakes and Society.

>>7497385
It's alright, I won't tell her that I was h--wait shit

>>7497821
they don't even know any weaknesses, didn't even ask anyone

I really wish Gura communicated with the other girls a bit while playing. It kinda feels more like she is playing the game by herself. Watoto and Tiara seem to actually be forging a friendship, while Scout just kind of ignore the other three to talk to NPCs. I dont know if this is Gura trying to play Scout that way or her just having more fun messing with NPCs

>>7498037
They did ask if garlic works but arent sure if any of the classic vampire weaknesses are actually real

>>7496638
>>7496615
Didn't she say that after the tutorials? And after the first session?

>>7492844
>This is a pretty useless merit, right? What ST makes pulling out your gun take up your whole instant action without some mitigating circumstances?
Quick Draw is solid, because readying a weapon is a Instant Action by default. It's shit if your ST for some reason decides that isn't the case, but I can't see why they would really.

>>7493150
>By RAW taking aggravated damage to a limb means the limb is permanently gone
Not quite, it's permanently crippled. I'ts only gone if the ST (Or really the player in this case) says it is.

>>7496615
did she talk about the TTRPG in general, or was in just an off comment?

A lot of Tiaras merits aren't useful because they aren't worrying about a lot of the weapon stats right?

>>7499182
True and she still think her speciality works like a merit

Mpri just started superchat reading, a lot of them will be about the ttrpg

>>7499182
I recall in the last session when she was talking about her merits Calli said something like "we'll change that" about one of the merits, so maybe they'll go over that off-stream.

>>7498823
No? Not that I recall. Tutorials are just that, it's still their first ever TTRPG campaign and that was only their 2nd group session. The detour into the hedge was basically tutorial:group version after the 1:1 tutorials. The Malks will be the first "real"
mission

>>7499182
Her main problem is she didn't buy Gunslinger as a merit, she thought it was a specialty. Gunslinger has some useful stuff in it that she can't actually use.

But yeah, building a character around combat hasn't paid off.

just clicked Kiara's stream and she's talking about the TTRPG right now, has she said anything interesting before?

>Kiara feels bad at RPGing
>feels she hasn't been doing a good job
>can't figure out what to say cause of ESL brainfarts
>was lost on wondering "what would Calli want me to do"
>thought she had to fight the dogs and got confused that Calli made them leave

>>7499559
A lot problems would be solved if the girls read the books and reviewed their sheets together with their knowledge from the 1:1 and early group sessions. But can't afford to waste time on stream doing that stuff and they just aren't going to do it on their own. I've dealt with players like this but never an entire group, there's usually at least a couple rules autists that helps the GM keep things on track

>>7499182
Kind of, but it's also that Calli seems to be ignore parts of the game, and the Kiara just took some based on 1 line descriptions without really knowing what any of it meant.

>Subduing Strikes
This lets you downgrade lethal weaponry damage to bashing damage without spending Willpower. This is legitimately an amazing talent for the sort of game they seem to be playing, but it's terrible on Tiara because she doesn't have a melee weapon and doesn't seem interested in using those 3 dots in Weaponry she might has.
>Loaded for Bear
This gives you extra reloads, but they're ignoring that entirely so it sucks.
>Human Prey
This is also pretty good but relies on Initiative which Calli just doesn't seem to be using. Basically before Initiative is rolled you can choose Fight, Flight, or Freeze. Fight makes you Insane but gives you +1 Str, Flight makes you Beaten Down but gives you 8-again on all rolls to escape, and Freeze makes you Stunned or Insensate but gives you a Willpower. Kiara will never use this, and probably hasn't even looked in the book its in.
>Multilingual
This is fine, just lets her character speak multiple languages well enough.
>Iron Stamina
Also great, I don't know if anyone will remember it exists though. It lets you mitigate penalties from exhaustian or your Health being full by the amount of dots in the Merits. So Tiara has 1 dot which means instead of her last three boxes giving -1, -2, -3, to all actions, only the last two do anything and it's -1, -2. It's a really good Merit, not sure it'll see use though.
>Quick Draw
This is also great, especially for the type of character she's playing. But Calli doesn't seem to be using Initiative or turns at all so it's probably never going to see any use. It's essentially a free turn in any combat you weren't ready for though.
>Danger Sense
Gives you a +2 to detect ambushes with Perception rolls, so this one might actually be useful given how much Calli leans on those.
>Gunslinger
She seemed to have wanted to take this as the Merit, but fucked it up because the whole chargen stream was a mess. This is all on Calli, honestly. She should have gone over the sheets afterwards and also not handed out the wrong merit lists in the first place. She has enough dots in useless stuff to take it though, so hopefully this will end up as a Merit when some of the shit gets cleared up.


>>7499848
She's doing fine. She's doing better than she has any right to given the above mess that isn't her fault. The only thing there that's actually a bad thing is thinking about what the GM would want you to do rather than what you/your character would do. Most of the time GM intentions are inscrutable. Thinking about them is often an exercise in frustration.

>>7499900
This is also true. A quick read of the rules, a skim of their merits, make some notes on your sheets, and done. It's pretty much an hours work and would help a lot.

>>7499848
Kiara and by extension the group would probably actually do better with a super railroading GM. Mori pretty much let's they try whatever which is intimidating for newbies. But I vastly prefer freeform improv over railroaded GM short stories.

>>7499848
>thought she had to fight the dogs and got confused that Calli made them leave
To be fair, that's more the ST trying not to kill Watoto than anything else.

>>7499971
Hopefully some fa/tg/uy writes her a feedback essay, it seems like she's actually trying hard to be good at TTRPG so there's a chance she reads it.

>>7499900
Yeah, they really should get familliar with the rules. I assume they just don't know where to start and what books to check out, but Calli ought to be able to point them in the right direction.
Someone said in the last thread that Gura and I think Kiara supposedly read the rules, but I haven't seen any source for that.

>>7499992
One bite wouldn't have killed him, it would have been like 4 or 5 Lethal RAW, but you could bump that down a bit. I'm glad she seems to know she really stretched that too far though.

>>7500017
Won't be me, I'm only here for the game streams and the chatting. If anyone does do it though, she is doing a fine job. A clean up of her sheet, a re-do of her Merits, probably dropping the ara thing, and focusing less on what they think Calli would want them to do would be all I'd suggest off the top of my head.

Did the Darkling ever drop his Mask for the Bargain?

Kiara thought she did so poorly last session she actually sent everyone on message to apologize

>>7500166
>she actually sent everyone on message to apologize
really that bad? damn, that's sad, she didn't do bad honestly, and choosing to call Yuul and Scout because they didn't know they were hiding was great imo

>>7500166
Awww. Kiara did fine. Nobody did badly, except for that weird thing where Ame tried to off Watoto, but Kiara was great. She had some great ideas, some great character interactions, lead to a couple of bits of great drama, and generally was just fun.

>>7500166
Jesas. I'm gonna saviourfag. Kiara did fine- in fact, she did the best thing possible to try and save Watoto from the dogs, if Calli hadn't been playing with kid-gloves Watoto would have been in mortal danger and honestly her actions reflected that more than Ame's.

>>7500258
The thing is that part with Watoto is what made her sad. She correctly thought that the dogs were harmful, but then Watoto threw himself at the dogs. Calli had to pacify them so they didnt kill Watoto, so now Kiara thinks she shot innocent dogs and did the wrong thing

>>7500391
Oh well someone should tell her to rewatch that bit. Calli goes straight into "haha, how do I not kill you"-mode and calls for a fucking coin flip as a last ditch to not have Watoto get his arm bitten off. That was really on Calli not throwing punches to pull, she could have just done a bit of damage to them and he would have ran. Kiara was great

>>7500391
>>7500438
Or show her what the book says about Briarwolves.
>Briarwolves are pack animals. When one catches a scent, they all gather to stalk their prey. What they like best, the moment they wait for, is when the prey starts running. The pack ramps up to that, surrounding their quarry, baying from all across the Hedge, crashing about in the Thorns, and stopping to sniff and slaver just outside where their victims have holed up.
>They eat meat, but like it best when it’s marinated in the victim’s terror and pain. The first time they catch their prey, the briarwolves draw blood, but set their victim free. Such victims rarely get far, with another briarwolf appearing out of the night to swipe with its ragged claws or snap with its sharp, sharp teeth. They repeat this until the victim can run no longer, then fall upon him and feast.

Also, read what they look like and then decide you can't save them and put them out of their misery for being gross.
>Briarwolves are part wolf, but have eerily human features. Their hands end in wickedly clawed fingers. They stand on two legs, but can run just fine, and just as fast, on all fours. Their eyes are human eyes, always. Briarwolves smell of dirt and meat and old, dried blood, and their mouths are full of too many teeth. When they’re on the hunt, their howls cut to the bone.

I've averaged the Anon ratings from the last thread. The totally objective unarguable true rating is 5.26/10.

>>7500525
>>They eat meat
>Eats mushroom

>>7500166
>Kiara thought she did so poorly last session she actually sent everyone on message to apologize
I actually unsubbed from Kiara but this was honestly the best session for her.
Like good enough to make me consider resubscribing.
Why do none of these people know how to evaluate their own skills?

>>7500553
Yeah, Mori really went too soft this session. I think if everything was the same but the dog actually bit Watoto and the bullet actually hurt Tiara (both doing some lethal to give them a sense of danger) this session would've been an easy 8/10

>>7496946
YES. Mori wears several filters at all times. We are not even close to the max.

I get it that she didn't want to hurt the PCs too much before their actual first mission, but a little bit of damage wouldn't hurt (heh). I feel that she made it work out, with the non-lethal sniper shot I thought the changelling was playing with his food, but it still opened up an avenue to the fight where players assumed there was something else that saved Tiara.

Say what you will about how the threats are handled, we can at guarantee new works each season.

Also Gura know what she's doing with Scout.

>>7501207
You're absolutely right. I hope next session Scout goes extra dumb murderhobo and Mori helps her reorient her character with lethal damage.

>>7502255
UOOOOH

>>7502390
I like the dynamic of Scout being a murder hick and everyone else having to talk her down. It fits her character concept really well and it's how she's played it from the very start

>>7502255
I want Scout to put her Thong on my Tong.

>>7501994
It's weird that she both doesn't want to kill them but also totally ignores healing.

Calli talked a bit about TTRPG at the beginning of the "I'm back" stream.
https://youtu.be/dyt_yf5NozE?t=1033
quick rundown:
>I felt like pushing a couple of things the last session but I held myself back, also for time reasons
>but the next session... they might have a bit of an awakening
>ez mode no more
>also says sniff won't forget about the stolen rifle

>it definitely won't be 5 session after all, seems more like 6 or 7 looking at it now
>the season will end when the plot will complete, so it may still be longer if it needs to be

>>7498060
Gura just likes RPing with Mori the most

>>7502680
You can really tell Guras favorite part of the game is RP banter between her and Mori as an NPC, she needs to do it with the other girls more

>>7499971
She is using initiative, at least she did for Kiara's tutorial stream. It's just that I think they haven't had a proper combat encounter yet, at least one where they had a legitimate chance to lose

>>7502745
Next time they split up, I hope they choose YuulxWatoto and ScoutxTiara. The two 'smart' characters and the two 'violent' characters could get up to some real chaos working in tandem.

>>7502793
I really want to see Scout and Tiara interact more. They both take the leader role when the other isnt there so I want to see them deal with just being alone together

>>7502793
Yuul x Tiara and Watoto x Scout might work better, since those pairs seem to get along better in general

>>7502637
She's not got the heart for it. Watoto will tickle a vampire's balls and Cali will laugh and say the vampire likes it.

>>7500166
damn, the only real "mistake" she made was shooting the dog when it was pacified by the sonar gun, but even so it's not like it was really stupid because those are monsters not dogs, and the call wasn't even a bad idea, she was safe and found a house, a good moment to drop info to the other side, the poblem is Yuul and Scout not using the walkies because Gura has tunnel vision and Ina has fear to talk or something. A shame she feels like it because I think she is the one more invested in this, trying to have a bond with Watoto when everyone was bullying him, trying to learn a bit more what the fuck can her character do and even sending an apology for not doing great even when most of her problems are because of Mori's fuck ups.

Talking about something else, how the fuck do I do to understand what is Ina saying? I am ESL so I don't have the best experience listening to english without subs and if I pull the volume up Kiara will tear my head apart.

>>7491946
NTA, but I'm currently running a Princess the Hopeful game.
TL;DR: It's Sailor Moon meets Super Princess Peach crossed with Madoka Magica.

It's the same World of Darkness as always. Except that in the ancient past there was the World of Light, when all the goodness, hope, and well, light ruled the world. Then, overtime, the light became complacent and the Darkness started to creep in.

The Darkness, being all the cruelty and evil in real physical form, starts corrupting and twisting people. Until, finally, it hits a critical mass and starts knocking over the various kingdoms of the Light. Princesses, what we know of as magical girls, embody the Light in a very real physical way. Literal goody two-shoes, as in their shoes are probably made out of condensed Love and their swords are made out of Justice.

So the Dark gets wrecked on its own, because it's basically a mindless mass of evil that acts on instinct. Until it finally corrupts three Queens--super powered Princesses--twisting them into the three Dark Queens. The three Dark Queens are sapient and aware unlike the mindless evil of the Dark. So they create a trap called the Dreamlands to trap all the souls of Princesses. The Dreamlands replicates the Kingdom of Light, and tricks all the Princesses' souls into believing they had won the war..

So, fast forward thousands of years, 1969 hits and the Moon Landing reveals that the Dreamlands aren't real when billions of humans are inspired by the hope of the one big step for mankind. So the Princesses realize they've been duped, and smash the Dreamlands and proceed to start reincarnating in the world conquered by the Darkness.

They've gotta fight evil by moonlight, win love by daylight, and try not to let the Darkness find out where they live because it WILL hollow out their family and wear them like human suits. Princesses are humans with magic that is literally powered by their emotions, so doing the right thing does make them stronger. And being bad girls makes them weaker.

>>7503751
>how the fuck do I do to understand what is Ina saying?
You learn to decipher her mumbles. Honestly I can’t believe that it’s been almost a year and they still can’t balance their audio in collabs

>>7502793
Oh god, Tiara and Scout would hype each other up into murder real fuckign fast

>>7502637
>but the next session... they might have a bit of an awakening
>ez mode no more
I think it's the reason she briefly mentioned they got cellphones via mail at the end.
I expect she will self-insert into that guild master that have them the quest and either phone them a quick rundown on why not to fuck around with vampire and think twice before acting out it may have consequences.

>>7502836
I don't know how you came to this conclusion. Seeing different pairings would be good though

>>7504790
I feel like since most of us following along have seen the char creation, recap, and the tutorials it's easy to forget for the girls playing that was literally their 2nd ever group session. Maiming, or killing a newbie in the second session might be okay if everyone knew the it was a high lethality campaign but it's pretty clear the girls would be crushed if their character died, to say nothing of the chat/fan reaction. I personally think saving that for the last session of a first newb campaign is reasonable, since it gives you an opportunity to give the character a memorable sendoff and gives time not only to make a new character, but for the player to get over it and get excited about the new campaign and not just lose interest while their friends continue. Dying in the second session on a side quest would be deflating.

>3 weeks until next session
I'm NGMI

>>7504829
>I don't know how you came to this conclusion
By watching their streams. I mean that Ina and Kiara as well as Gura and Ame get along well, so it might be easier for them to roleplay. But yeah, it's not like other pairings will be bad.

>>7505545
>3 weeks
why? isn't it in 2 weeks?

>>7505612
Pretty much all the girls are going on break soon, even Ame will be away for like 13 days or something.

>>7505545
Pain. Weekly is best. Biweekly is fine, anything more than that people start forgetting stuff and it takes a while to reengage.

>>7505612
Kiara just said that 2 weeks from now someone will be on break for that entire week (most likely Ame as she said she'd be taking the second half of August off)

>>7505650
I know that Calli just returned from her break and Ina is only going away for a week, dunno about the rest though.
>>7505650
>13 days or something
so could return for the session like Calli did yesterday.
Oh well, I guess we'll see. Would be nice if they could pick up the pace to 1 per week, but I get it that it takes some work to prepare a session for Calli.

Kiara's going over her merits and trying to decide what to change
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocp8VDZqLE8

Kiara is talking about her merits right now and taking suggestions what to change

>>7505787
>>7505791
oh cool, thanks for the heads up

>>7502745
Yeah she loves it and they are good at it, to the point where I would love to have some Scout side story streams in between seasons. Unfortunately Scout and Yuul aren’t really a great pairing, I think Gura would be able to rp better off of Watoto or Tiara

Kek she actually brought up Mori never letting her use danger sense and quick draw

There's a /tg/ thread of this

>>>/tg/80658105

>>7505921
There sure is. And when that thread is dead this one won't be, and then there will be another thread here, and another, until the session when /tg/ gets a thread.

>>7484360
That was a Loyalist Changeling, an actual True Fae wouldn't have ran from Briar Wolves and would've stomped them into smears or submission in an instant.

>>7483834
>>7484013
Unless they've acquired a Bane (for vampires) or Frailty (for Changelings) that is specifically about it, silver does nothing special to either of them and you're very unlikely to run into one with that specific weakness.

>>7482115
Vampires downgrade mundane Lethal to Bashing and their guns do like 1-2 Lethal, so 1-2 Bashing. They need actual fucking firepower to stand a chance since you do not want to get close to a vamp, Scout might hit hard but she'll still inflict bashing and her target will get to attack back. You gotta shoot them twice as much as you would a human, even more if they got Resilience.
Shotguns and rifles focused on a single target at a time will usually kill them quikc eno and of course fire (their weakness) and explosives are your best bet.
Of course if you know where one goes for daysleep, killing them during the day is the easiest option.

Ina's taser may not even work because Kindred can roll to ignore being shocked by mundane things since they're fucking walking corpses, they might still get stunned but it's still a pretty useless weapon.

>>7482519
>>7483276
Considering that Kindred don't actually need their brain to operate, I seriously doubt it. If their head is destroyed or severed they'll almost always die yes, but a bullet through their brain isn't any different from a bullet to their lungs and won't even do anything to their cognition.

>>7505921
it makes sense to have a thread there for streams, but without them it's kind of shitting up the board

>>7506026
Which board?

>>7503751
Ina talks like V from DMC. Pretty much sounds like she's on her death bed.

>>7506070
/tg/

>Kiara says Mori is making the game too easy
SHE'S HERE

>it would be funny if someone died
uhhh Kiara, don't jinx it

Kiara is FURIOUS that Watoto didn't get mauled by dogs!

>>7506193
Heh. With her obvious lack on knowledge of the game I wish she was here. It would help her quite a bit actually.

>>7506025
>Ina's taser may not even work because Kindred can roll to ignore being shocked by mundane things
I have a feeling Mori will go "my vampires are different" and have it do -something- since Yuul spent time building that and it would suck if it did nothing, unless she takes the "training wheels are off now" seriously of course. Would definitely be a great scare for everyone.

>>7503998
How different of a game it is compared to say, Hunter or Werewolf?

>>7506215
Heh, I think Mori is the kind of GM who wants to encourage non-combat solutions.

>>7506193
Someone should tell Mori that, Tiara will get fucked in the next session.

So guys: what merits would you use for Tiara's revised sheet?

>>7506193
>>7506215
I mean, she's right.

>>7506371
>Tiara's revised sheet?
so did she end up deciding on any specific changes on the stream right now?

>>7506279
Like most things: Depends on the ST.
If you want to play Princess entirely straight, then it's like being Hunters but you chase one specific type of creature. You're encouraged to do the right thing by your mechanics, and punished for doing the wrong thing, but sometimes you have to do the wrong thing to succeed.

Alternatively, if you want to play World of Darkness but with Superheroes Princess can do that pretty easily, since Charms are basically superpowers in the mid-tier. One of my players can become invisible at will for no cost.

>>7506371
I'd drop Human Prey, Subduing Strike (unless she's going to use something other than a gun, but she won't), and Loaded for Bear. That's 4 dots, but she only has 9 dots on her sheet instead of 10, which means she has 5 dots to spend and could pick up Gunslinger at 5 dots.

>>7506526
Gunslinger isn't in 2e yet. I agree with ditching those, but picking up Firefight 3 and Marksmanship 2 instead of the non-existent Gunslinger.

That would let Tiara have an Initiative of Firearms+Wits+Composure(if Mori ever rolled Initiative), bounce shots around corner, get Defense to gunfire, make called shots with a lower penalty, and use rifles/heavy pistols instead of weak revolvers.

>>7506829
Yes it is. It's in Dark Eras 2, the only reason she knows it exists is because it's was in the 2e merit list they were all sent. I'm not bothered with her being effective either, I'm more interested in her having the fun thing she wants.

>>7506829
Also, heavy revolvers do the same damage as heavy pistols but with better range the only downside is capacity which they're not tracking anyway.

>>7506912
I mean it just let's you dual wield revolvers and burst fire right? Seems flavorful and fun, without being overpowered, especially for 5 dots

Why does every Callis character gets reduced to a whimpering wimp. I thinks shes doing a good job keeping the training wheels on and eventually gets rid of them. Perhaps some minor punishment would be in order in some places to keep the players operating with reason.

Kiara and Gura seem to have it figured out and are pretty aware of situations, Ame and Ina seem to be a bit patchy on their characters motives and situations.

I definitely think the dogs, or at least one of them shouldve got a good bite on watoto, i mean it's not like that wouldve made a difference survival wise, but it wouldve indicated risk and reward concept. Watoto is living with a deathwish, no need to avoid that. If anything to get her way with the dogs, Ame shouldve put on a great RP display to sway the situation in her favor, not just "i throw mushroom".

>>7506829
See that all seems too complicated for Kiara, who apparently doesn't even understand willpower as a mechanic. Let her dual wield pistols and blast away instead.

Mori cannot roleplay anyone except Vic, can she?

>>7507059
>>7507111
Chad wasn't a wimp but you do have a point. It may be that wimps are easier for newbs to manage. A typical devious changeling, if played true to character, would take out the entire party with minimal effort really.

Let's see what the Malks are like before we judge I'd say.

>>7506912
I was under the impression that she wanted to shoot guns, not necessarily revolvers. Especially since Tiara is drawn with semiautomatics not revolvers.

>>7506974
Yeah, so Firefight and Marksmanship apply to Rifles, which are a much better option. And also would let her use the gun she's just got. While still letting her use the revolver she has.

>>7507068
"You can shoot around a corner" is all you need to say to pitch it to Kiara.

>>7507111
With male characters she defaults to pushover man, but she also has Chad man, country bumpkin man and old man.
In the changeling's case, I assume she just wanted that encounter to be done and having him be confrontational would just drag things out, at hour 3.

>>7507189
Ehhhh. Just houserule gunslinger to be pistols instead of revolvers. Little overpowered? Maybe a touch but they are ignoring ammo anyway does it really matter?

>>7507262
I don't get why everyone is hell bent on Kiara keeping Gunslinger, since she explicitly didn't understand how it worked or what it did and just picked it because it referenced guns.

>>7507189
She took Gunslinger in the first place because it was for revolvers. It's also what she's currently using, and opted for over a semiauto. Like I said, I don't care what's better. I'd rather her just have the fun thing she wants then take the optimal build.

>>7507262
It actually makes it worse to do that, not better. Pistols advantage is the capacity for lower range, but without capacity the revolvers are the better pick. Not that range matters anyway.

>>7507068
I'd argue the WP is more Calli's fault than anything. Although it wouldn't hurt for Kiara to take a flick through the rules.

>>7507375
>She took Gunslinger in the first place because it was for revolvers.
No, she didn't. She took semi-autos, Tiara is drawn with semi-autos, and Mori had her trade out the semi-autos she kept for revolvers when she reached the hunter base.

Kiara literally doesn't know what the merit does, nor did she read it. Furthermore, you missed the part where I pointed out she can shoot around walls.

Honestly, Kiara should have merits that can have Tiara do something outside of combat, considering how most of the ones she has aren't useful with the way Mori runs fights in the game.

>>7507368
I wouldn't say anyone is hellbent on it, she can do what she likes. But she did pick it because of revolvers. This is what she would have read.
>Wits •••, Firearms •••, Firearms(Revolvers) specialty
>At one dot, can perform short bursts with revolvers. At three dots, can make a medium burst with revolvers, but doesn't gain an attack bonus. At five dots, with offhand revolver, medium burst can hit targets not close together, for an additional -2 penalty.
That first line is also why it's in a Speciality, not in a Merit


>>7507438
See above, but also she literally read the rules out last session. She knows what it does.

>>7507368
>>7507375
>>7507438
Gunslinger is really simple to use and understand. Basically just throws more dice at combat problems, which is always a good option for newbs, without requiring specific player input. (Called shots, bouncing bullets, etc).

Also it's plausible to conceal a couple pistols. Some guns in a purse or strapped to a thigh at a ball, sure, plausible. Scout isn't hiding a pickax or a rifle in her dress.

>>7507438
I dont think if you showed Kiara a table of guns and told her to pic the revolver she could tell which one it was

>>7507651
Lol she did try to put spent rifle bullets in her revolver. Even Mori was losing it. Given her background I wouldn't be shocked if she actually had passing familiarity with guns.

>>7507701
she picked up the rifle lead that hit her and tried to put it in her revolver thinking it would make her do more damage

>>7507509
Yeah, she knows what it does last session because she read it after she picked it. That was why she had to swap her semi-autos for revolvers in the first session. She just picked it because it mentioned guns. Why do you think she had semi-autos for her entire tutorial?

>>7507651
I would agree with you.

>>7507617
>Gunslinger is really simple to use and understand.
Gunslinger requires she know what an automatic burst is, a medium burst, and that she can shoot two different targets. Compared to "I aim for his [blank" that she's already doing it's a lot less newbie friendly than people think.

>>7507869
I literally just showed you what she read when she picked it the first time. There is no way she saw it and didn't also see the mention of the word revolver. The word appears 4 times in the thing she read. She also doesn't know what guns are at all. Did you see the last session? She tried to put fired rounds into her gun to do more damage. She's illiterate when it comes to firearms.

>Kiara makes logical choices like to fire back at an enemy attacking her, or to call her friends over walkie talkie
>Cali punishes her
>other players do completely illogical acts like trying to feed a Briarwolf that was attacking him not 5 seconds ago a mushroom, taking off pants to... do something to help get Yuul out of the hedge
>Cali rewards them
>Kiara now thinks she's bad at role-playing and that she's negatively effecting the game for everyone
I'm not saying mori is a bad DM, or that all the issues of this last session stim from her, but she could have handled stuff better.

>>7507869
Functionally wouldn't it just be two attacks, one at +2 dice? That's not too hard to understand

>>7508005
Same as Tiara having her guns taken from her in her tutorial when the other girls got their full skillset

>>7508005
Kiara should know by now that Mori will always be a cunt to her for no reason.

>>7508041
Hmm got this one wrong. Don't have the books in front of me but apparently gunslinger removes bonus for burst but still allows multiple targets. Would still let her fire with two pistols

>>7508082
That I can sorta excuse as Cali building a scenario without considering Kiaras characters skillset as it was the first session they were going to do, and probably wrote the scenario with the outline of the character Kiara gave her before they actually built the character sheets.

>>7507980
Then why did she pick semi-autos in her tutorial? As you said Gunslinger mentions Revolvers 4 times. Yet she still drew her character with semi-autos, still picked semi-autos, and didn't know she had to use revolvers until the first session. Like you've said she tried to put a spent round in her gun, so clearly she doesn't know guns. So why do you think Kiara cares about revolvers enough to not know what they are?

It's almost like she just picked it because it said "gun" in the title and didn't know what it did until after the fact.

>>7508041
It's two attacks at two targets that aren't within close range of one another. She probably grasps that as much as she grasps called shots, IMO.

>>7507869
Okay. So I'm kinda not sure how you think you're method is simpler. This is what you're suggesting they pick up.

>Firefight (• to •••; Style)
>Prerequisites: Composure •••, Dexterity •••, Athletics ••, Firearms ••
>Effect: Your character is comfortable with a gun. She’s been trained in stressful situations, and knows how to keep herself from being shot, while still shooting at her opponents. This Style is about moving, strafing, and taking shots when you get them. It’s not a series of precision techniques; it’s for using a gun practically in a real-world situation.
>Shoot First (•): In a firefight, the person shot first is usually the loser. Your character has trained herself to fire first in an altercation. If her gun is drawn, add her Firearms score to her Initiative. If she has Quick Draw, she can use Shoot First to draw and fire with increased Initiative in the first turn of combat.
>Suppressive Fire (••): Sometimes, the purpose of a shot is to distract, not necessarily to hit. Your character is trained to fire off a handful of rounds with the intent to startle opponents and force impulse reactions. When using the Covering Fire maneuver (p. 90), her opponents cannot benefit from aiming against her. She can apply her Defense against incoming Firearms attacks, in addition to any cover bonuses. Additionally, her training allows her to use Suppressive Fire with a semi-automatic weapon.
>Secondary Target (•••): Sometimes, shooting an opponent behind cover is all but impossible. However, a bullet can knock objects off balance, or cause ricochets. By using Secondary Target, your character opts not to hit her target, but instead strike them with any collateral objects that might be nearby. She causes bashing damage instead of lethal, but ignores all cover penalties to the roll. The weapon’s damage rating does not add to the damage in this case.

>Marksmanship (• to ••••; Style)
>Prerequisites: Composure •••, Resolve •••, Firearms ••
>Effect: When prepared and aimed, a gun is an ideal killing machine. Your character has trained to take advantage of the greatest features of a gun, usually a rifle, but this Style can be used with any gun. Because of the discipline and patience required for Marksmanship, your character cannot use her Defense during any turn in which she uses one of these maneuvers. These maneuvers may only be used after aiming for at least one turn.
>Through the Crosshairs (•): Your character is a competent sniper, able to sit in position and steel her wits. Usually, the maximum bonus from aiming is three dice. With Through the Crosshairs, it’s equal to her Composure + Firearms.
>Precision Shot (••): With this level of training, your character knows how to effectively disable a victim instead of focusing on the kill. When attacking a specified target, you may reduce your weapon’s damage rating one-for-one to ignore penalties for shooting a specified target (see p. 92). For example, if your character is using a sniper rifle (four damage weapon), and attacking an arm (-2 to hit), you could choose to use three damage for -1, or two damage to eliminate the penalty entirely.

This is what they're suggesting.

>Gunslinger (•, •••, or •••••)
>Prerequisites: Wits •••, Firearms •••, Firearms (Revolvers) Specialty
>Effect: Your character squeezes the trigger with incredible speed or uses fanning techniques popular among trick shooters to put lead in the air quickly and with minimal loss of accuracy.
>At one dot, she can perform a short burst with a revolver as though it were an automatic weapon.
>At three dots, she can adjust her aim between shots, performing a medium burst with a revolver that requires only three rounds of ammunition. She gains no attack bonus, but still suffers a penalty for multiple targets. She cannot make multiple attacks against one target in the same turn, and she uses three rounds of ammunition regardless of the number of targets.
>At five dots, if your character wields two revolvers, she may attack multiple targets that are not close together as long as both are within short range. This is otherwise identical to the three-dot effect, but the penalty for attacking multiple targets increases by two.

Even if you take into account the bursts it's so much less.
>Short Burst: Three bullets fired at the same target. The shooter enjoys a +1 to her dice pool.
>Medium Burst: 10 bullets, which can hit one to three targets standing close together. The shooter receives a two-die bonus to her dice pool. If firing at more than one target, subtract the total number of targets from the shooter’s pool, then make one attack roll per target.

>>7508287
She literally tried to shove spent ammo into her gun to do more damage. Why are you acting like her not knowing what guns are is a smoking gun?

>>7508287
She didnt pick a semi auto, she stole a semi auto, but when drawing her character yeah she probably just picked a gun that looked cool

A guy called HDFlood_ on twitter is giving small recaps of the sessions apparently, I'll drop this image they did for session 2 in case people find it useful

>>7508005
>Kiara makes logical choices like to fire back at an enemy attacking her, or to call her friends over walkie talkie
>Cali punishes her
I was kind of frustrated that Mori didn't have an Initiative roll off to let her just shoot.

>>7508383
Because they're passive. She doesn't need to learn new rules except covering fire. Aiming and called shots are all things she already does.
Firefight 1, Marksmanship 1, and Marksmanship 2 is passive.
Firefight 2 just requires she shoot to provide cover, and then is passive. Firefight 3 lets her do a cool thing with guns, which is what she clearly wanted when making the character.

>>7508489
Because the counter argument that she wanted revolvers requires either Kiara
A) is stupid
B) can't read
or C) cares about revolvers specifically, yet doesn't know what they are

I'd rather give her the benefit of the doubt and assume she just wanted to shoot guns well.

>>7508680
So one is bad because she has to learn what bursts are, the other isn't even though she'd have to learn the more complicated aim and called shot rules on top of the additional actions, and the defense penalties and she has to think about more than just "I want to shoot the guys"? Go fuck yourself. You're so entrenched in your dumbass min max bullshit. No one is going to die, it doesn't matter if your precious oshi has a """sub-optimal""" character

>>7508680
Dude. She just wanted the cool guns, I don't know why you're reaching so hard. She currently has a revolver because she opted for the revolver over the semiauto she stole. She CHOSE to have the revolver. You're assuming she can't read and also doesn't know revolvers exist despite the fact she has a revolver heavy Merit and then chose the revolver and read the rules saying it worked with a revolver.

Do you just think Kiara is retarded or are you retarded? I actually can't tell if you're just trolling or mentally deficient.

Also, them being passive doesn't matter. She has to actually read them, learn them, and then remember they apply. It's so much more work. Especially when she already knows what Gunslinger does and has literally tried to use it appropriately already.

>>7508960
"I wanna fire a short burst" vs "I'm gonna shoot at his hand"
One of these is something she literally already does. The other is a specific rule. Guess which one of these is easier for new players?
I made my choices for a new player in mind, hence why they're passives and one cool thing that the player gets to show off.
Also:
>Getting this defensive over suggestions
Anon, you may want to take a walk or your meds.

>>7509399
She's already tried to use Gunslinger. Calli just said no. She knows what it does, how it works, and thus doesn't need to learn more. You're trying to pile on more work for her instead of just being okay with her taking the thing she wants and knows. Why would you want to make the game more work for her?

>>7509228
>Dude. She just wanted the cool guns
I agree. It's why I made the suggestions I made.
Also
>Especially when she already knows what Gunslinger does and has literally tried to use it appropriately already.
I don't remember her trying to do that. I remember her trying to shoot the guy, and Calli telling her she couldn't. But I don't remember her using bursts.

>>7509763
She said something to the effect of "Gunslinger lets me make short bursts" then Calli said no because she had it as a spec not a Merit.

>>7480975
While this is thought out review, all of it seems like you were trying to explain how the girls should play to win, not how they should play as actual characters. Yes, WoD is pretty brutal TTRPG, but its still a TTRPG. If you don't plan on roleplaying, not only in terms of conversation, but also in character decisions (even in battle), you should just play something else. Or just forget about RP, make blank characters and powergame. You can't have RP outside of combat and full powergame in combat. Animal lover RP outside of combat and merciless slaughter of animals in combat doesn't make sense.

Watoto is a doggie loving retard that grew up with 2 very big doggies around. The way she played seems much more in character than outright attacking the dogs. Metagaming, yeah, you attack them, but that is not how watoto would respond. While i agree Watoto should be punished for the decisions, he shouldn't be killed and any GM that kills the character in that situation isn't expecting roleplaying or is a very bad GM. This could be a good character growth moment for Watoto. Keep in mind that this is all brand new for the characters. They have no idea what that doggie is, and getting attacked could show them just how brutal this world is. And this can go for all the characters.

Also wrangling retards to stay on the plot is important, so big props to Ina, but saying she played well because she rolled well? Not really something you should congratulate people on. Literally RNG.
Still MVP tho.

>>7509947
I didn't remember that part. In that case she'd be better off keeping Gunslinger. My bad.

>>7510086
It's fine, we both clearly want what is going to make the game best for her.

What was /vt/'s reaction to the stream?

Dumping some art cus why not

>>7512911

>>7512958

>>7513005
And most importantly, buff Tiara

>>7513056
God I would give all the rifles in the world for her to step on me

>>7513056
It’s funny I think she envisioned a petite anime girl but between the accent, decent combat skills and stats, the arm wrestling contest with the canonically buff Scout, and the comic contrast with Watoto she’s gradually getting taller and buffer.

I welcome these developments

>>7515302
Amazonification is a severely underrepresented fetish.

>>7510060
Watoto trying to befriend the monster dogs I think I’m sort of okay with. It probably would’ve been more appropriate and funnier if they mauled the hell out of him but newbs in their second session and they have a ball to infiltrate. Though a half dead Watoto stuffed in a tux waltzing into a group of Malks reaking of blood would be a great setup in its own way.

>>7494011
>Tiara is an aggro magnet
yeah, this.
She and Scout should make the strike team, while Yuul and Watoto are support

>>7496702
dude, the only girl who comes here is Gura, and she's a /v/tard.

>>7505787
can i get a timestamp? that is a niggerfuckin 7 hour stream!

>>7516115
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocp8VDZqLE8&t=18572s

>>7516361
Thanks

>>7516361
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocp8VDZqLE8&t=18572s
muchos graciosas!
i mean...
much grass.

>>7515598
>the only girl who comes here is Gura
DYRBI?

>>7492833
I think they should all rewatch the last 30mins to maybe an hour of the last session every time a new session begins. iirc, the first session ended on a cliffhanger that was pretty tense; but at the opening of the 2nd everyone was in good moods with lots of energy. Kinda loses the flow if you watch the 2nd right after the 1st.

Also I felt most of them even forgot what was going on, and what was established in the previous session. I was practically yelling at my screen that Ame didnt use her "sound gun" as soon as the dogs started coming, either to make them pacified, or scrambling their brains.

>>7516826
you are right, Ame coming to the Chan makes more sense...

>>7518021
That's a good idea, but do they even have the time to?

>>7518021
>>7520128
Doesn't have to be immediately before. A day or two would be enough of a refresher.

Been reading through Requiem 2 because of these threads. Thinking about making a vampire. Should I post it when I'm done?

>>7502637
>but the next session... they might have a bit of an awakening
Holy shit she's gonna turn them into Mages and take the training wheels off.
>Welcome to the real game ladies.

>>7522855
I laughed at that too. Game screeches to a halt while Calli has to poorly explain 20 pages of spellcasting rules to them.

>>7522980
kek

>>7522781
Sure, why not.

>>7522980
how does spellcasting work in WoD? is it comparable to some d&d class? how's the spell variety?

>>7515598
Mori references 4chan all the time
>what'cha on anon

>>7523118
>how does spellcasting work in WoD?
Extremely freeform. There is an extensive list of spells in the Mage books, but Mage is designed around players casting improvised spells that follow some loose guidelines. Spells can do anything except for the few things that they are specifically called out as being impossible.
And then there's Archmages that are like Mages with those specific exception pulled out.

>>7523366
Mori uses /tg/ for her campaign. It would be a bad move to mention coming, because too many normies think 4chan and their little monkey brains immediately snap to THAT LITERAL NAZI SITE.