/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Except they didn't

I used to really like Hololive until the whole Mel fiasco. I understand why they had to terminate her, but it still leaves a sour taste and I always feel sad thinking about it.

>>74741418
Don't blame Mel or Cover, it's Kotoka's fault

They were just waiting for an excuse to can her. Happens all the time in the corporate world.

The fact that they are sad things ended the way they did doesnt invalidate things ending that way, sadly

>>74741418
She leaked private info to wrong people and she got the punishment. It just so happens that it's the only crime she has unlike that green hair menhera so she got a merciful treatment

Is it really that hard to not share private infos ? You sound like a fucking anti

>>74741122
>leeching off Mel's image when they fired her is showing love
I don't know how to tell you this, but man. No.

other than niji, holo treats everyone the same.
they fired rushia for the same offence. their biggest earner.

>>74741418
Agreed. Hololive just showed itself to be your typical soulless corpo. Lost a lot of respect for them.

>>74741481
Mel hired a lawyer when her manager was stalking her which did make Hololive look bad. It does feel like management jumped at the chance to fire her.

>>74741567
I said I understand why but I still don't like it I won't anti Hololive I'll just not watch them like with Nijisanji

>>74741471
It's pretty funny how she claimed she was not involved, but then the guilt starts eating her up leaving her unable to stream for like... what now? Two months+?

>>74741728
>>74741471
her career is more over than Mel's

>>74741950
legends have it mel is still showing her pubes off to this day.

>>74741471
I still have not seen a shred of proof pointing to this being the actual case. Just schizos flipping their gourds over a handful of coincidences.

>>74741621
>>74741673
Ok antis.

Mel breached her NDA. Cover couldn't not fire her for it, even though it was an honest mistake, and even though she's never done anything else wrong, and even if Rushia had never done anything wrong to set a precedent.

Choosing not to fire her for breaking her NDA would have told the other talents and the company's business partners that they view their contractually binding non-disclosure agreements to be more of an optional non-disclosure suggestion, and that some employees are more equal than others. I can't imagine what sort of reputable vtuber agency would engage in such blatant favoritism; even trying to imagine a vtuber agency taking such a black company action makes me want to puke rainbows.

>>74741122
>>74741481
>>74741621
>>74741669
Is this sisters' new tactic now ? Using Mel against Holo ? If she was so mistreated why didn't she voice out her frustration or sue the black corpo ? Oh right. She didn't want to because she admitted she fucked up and even exposed her PL to double down that she fucked up

And just because Holo manager stalked her 4 YEARS AGO does not mean she is free to leak infos to 3rd parties without consequence. Typical fuck around and find out

I apologize for sounding like I really hate Mel. I'm sad Mel ended her career like this. But I'm not angry at her, I'm angry at antis and sister faggots /here/ treating her like Doki

>>74741122
imo it would be even worse to be leeching off of a terminated talent

>>74741122
>>74741418
>>74741481
>>74741536
>>74741567
>>74741600
>>74741621
Since the marathon has membership and emotes enabled, seems like Cover is not looking to monetize a corpse.
btw, get your merch here!
https://nijisanji-store.com/collections/yuzuki-roa
https://nijisanji-store.com/collections/yuzuki-roa/products/sharehouse-voice-group-d?variant=43067553349827

>>74742145
actual brainrot

>>74741418
>I understand why they had to terminate her
Aka code for Black Corp being Black

>>74742165
Cover is and will forever be Black for firing over a mistake yet if Niji did it everyone would call them out

>>74742210
Niji is the kind of company that will overlook breaches of contract to avoid suffering negative consequences.

>>74742275
>>74742343
Do you dipshits not understand what breaking contract terms with a corporation means? That shit normally means getting your ass sued in many cases, merely getting fired is actually the nicest thing a jap company can do in this case.

>>74742210
>new tactic

>>74742471
Keep sucking Cover's dick i sure hope your Oshi don't get fire and unperson for a mistake because only evil Black Corps do that

Niji tax deflection thread

>>74742584
For what calling out Cover firing someone and acting like they didn't ever exist because of a mistake they made

>>74741728
Ever thought that maybe she disappeared because schizos like you keep harassing her with zero evidence?

>>74742584
And the Singapore fiasco.
And the AR Live disaster.
And the wave of 3D debut flops.
And that nothing will stop the investors from eviscerating Riku and/or Anycolor.

>>74741122
They are gonna have to get over themselves, even if only for practical reasons. If every tike a holo fucksnup she is gonna be erased from Holo history then the company cant grow. Every single media would be in danger of being taken down, its stupid.

>>74742343
No, if Nijisanji fired someone for breaking their NDA, then people would understand you fucking troglodyte. That's how a fucking NDA works: whether a leak is done maliciously or by complete 100% accident, you've broken your part of it and there are consequences. And one consequence that can happen (and quite frankly the least horrible thing) is getting fired.

>>74742210
They're very, very desperate right now please understand.

>>74742665
It has been a month since last thread about Mel until this shit and anons busy dunking on other organs and Riku so there is no reason for her to continue her hiatus with that reason

>>74742514
ching chong ding dong

All Corps are and will forever be Black for signing everything your fans know you as to someone who could fire you for any reason is something Vtubers shouldn't do yet Hololive is fool of fools who thought they wouldn't get fired yet now Mel is set proof Cover can and will fire for any given reason if they word it right hidden within in text written in lawyer speak

>>74742705
Oh my bad i forgot Corps are people too and not soulless demons who exist to chew you up and spit you out when you stop making them money or did a small mistake

>>74742514
Go to bed kid

>>74742794
is that a reference to cover deleting an entire branch overnight?

this is a very cool thread OP but let's not forget that Elira Pendora from Nijisanji bullied at least one of her coworkers into suicide.

>>74742913
July is coming for your ass EN sister. Start counting your days

>>74742090
>I still have not seen a shred of proof pointing to this being the actual case.
Kotoka was the VERY last person Mel collabed with before she (Mel) got terminated by Cover.

>>74741122
based, NijiGODs always win

>>74742665
She should've just stayed silent, but she just can't resist raising suspicions on herself, and now she's suffering the consequences of her own actions.
Fucking retard if she wasn't involved.
Fucking karma if she was actually involved.

ITT Corp sub humans who care more about the Corp than the Vtuber

>>74742988
Doesn't she still follow Kotoka after all this? Not everything happens on stream, so it's unlikely to be Kotoka.

Look, it's the thread where a bunch of anons show up and show how they've never had anything but a low level job.
Cover chose to not make money off of Mel. Your response niji?

I unironically hope Kotoka couldn't bear living with the guilt and killed herself. She's so fucking worthless.

>>74741122
Cant reuse her voice for monetized content, idiot

>>74743069
>Doesn't she still follow Kotoka after all this?
No.

>>74741418
spbp
Although for me it's when they fired Rushia. I just completely blacklisted it

Death to Corps long live indies!

>>74742988
Are you retarded? Do you think a streamer's social circle consists solely of people they collab with onstream? She could have talked to literally anyone.

>>74741471
It's not Kotoka for the last time Holobrony
And there's no proof she leaked information to third parties because no one was given closure

>>74743138
It's true. She could have, but it was Kotoka.

>>74741728
It's a coincidence. She has family issues right now. Maybe don't lie, Holobronies?

>>74741122
she should've gotten away with it like Luca

>>74742165
>NDA
Oh fuck off, there's no fucking proof she did shit just like there's no proof Rushia did shit or no proof Coco did shit either. Cover is just PR damage controlling as always.
>>74742343
Pretty much

>>74743117
I just checked, she literally does. Not even her PL either, straight up Kotoka.

>>74742471
And all 3 times there was no proof they broke contract terms, as many anons have pointed out, they were likely fired because they all lawyered up on corporate malpractice. Coco mentioned it, Rushia mentioned it, Mel mentioned it. All 3 lawyered up on Cover in the past, why are you memoryholing facts? Are you new?

>>74742236
>>74741122
>Cover is not looking to monetize a corpse
I mean it's not so much looking to as they can't lol, it's standard for vtuber contracts to state that the company isn't allowed to profit from (You) once the contract ends. This isn't something done out of spite Cover could get their ass sued for it. I think the only reason Nijisanji gets away with it in Roa's case is because she hasn't officially graduated so they probably have some sort of agreement in place, or maybe they're just waiting for it to bite them in the ass I don't know they're fucking retarded god she was the first Niji I watched this sucks so much

>>74742807
No shit. Support your local indies.

>>74743138
Yeah and if she could have talked to literally "anyone" like you just mentioned then she would have been fired MUCH earlier than when she got fired not long after her collab with Kotoka.

So turns out they didn't, which points to the truth actually being much more benign, if not outright favoring her?
Basically what would explain this is that Cover owns the rights to the character, so they can display her. However, Cover has probably decided that since they don't own the rights to their voice, without any other agreements struck, they have no right to profit off it and thus can't use it.

>>74742988
Doesn't mean fucking shit. Kotoka is on break because she has family issues right now, it has nothing to do with Mel, who was fired because of her past with Cover and them looking for an excuse to power harass someone over something minor at the time.
>>74743084
And I unironically hope you end up poor due to cocksucking corpos that hate you too

>>74743300 (me)
to be clear, I have no fucking idea who Kotoka's PL is and if she follows that account. I'm just saying it's really easy to check because you don't need to know.

>>74743138
It's just tribalistic newfags looking to blame Nijisanji for Cover's black company bullshit they have on their own.
>>74743368
>This isn't something done out of spite Cover could get their ass sued for it
Why do you think that?

>>74741471
Where did this info come from even? I've looked to a lot of places but there's no hard proof for this lol

>>74743426
Oooh this sets up for a legal battle then
Cover's 2024 can't possibly get any much worse

>>74741122
You can't show favoritism towards talents just because they've been there since the beginning or are the cash cows if they break contract.
Cover proved they will still enforce the rules regardless of who it is meanwhile Niji does completely the opposite.

>>74743542
Reddit, unironically. Yeah, Holobronies are that fucking pathetic.

>>74743429
>Kotoka is on break because she has family issues right now
That's just the cover story because of all the amount of "guilt" she's feeling after she snitched on Mel when she (Mel) was at her absolute lowest and told her (Kotoka) she shouldn't have said. Hell Kotoka even made that "I didn't totally snitch on mel" when if she REALLY didn't do it, then why go out her way to say that?

Face it retard, Kotoka is a snitch and she's on break because she's "guilty" for what she did. If not than she's stealth suspended because Niji always do that "family issues = stealth suspended" no?

God next you'll tell me that the reason Gura isn't streaming is because she's "fighting" with management.

>>74743586
>meanwhile Niji does completely the opposite
Citation needed

>>74743561
> Cover gets sued by Mel because... Cover used the model they made for her
Faggot

>>74743561
You wish
They also have Rushia in there BTW, this isn't a mistake
Which blows this whole angle out of the water because it's not even about disliking any holo, it's a consistent rule

>>74743622
Take your meds you fucking schizo

>>74743652
raziel.pdf

>>74743671
They used her voice without her permission, that's unironically theft.
>>74743684
And they're not allowed by law to use her voice without her permission. A lawsuit is very possible.

>>74743652
>who is Luca

>>74743741
There's no voice in any of those clips. That's the whole point. They very deliberately skipped any clips with voice.

>>74743713
Literally who?

Sisters out here being retarded instead of finding a job to support their 3view branch

>>74743787
No one wants to hire a bunch of screeching, useless harpies.
I don't think they even qualify for a McJob.

>>74741122
>Heh Cover hates Mel, black company hahah seethe Holochud
>They show Mel in a Hologra
>Heh she will sue and they're committing theft seethe Holochud
You genuinely can't win with these autists. Well except in every metric possible because their company is fucking dying

>>74743759
I don't watch the irrelevant meme branch
Now prove to me Niji did the opposite of Cover especially when they have fired their own livers in the past.

>>74743783
Luca's personal manager that he hired in breach of Niji's contract. She made everything public a month or so ago with receipts and nothing happened to him.

>>74743561
The fucking reach lmao

>>74743368
>he doesn't know mayuzumi explicitly said he's not coming back and everything you saw after his "funeral" is just a skinwalker
>nijisanji proceed to use his corpse for a sponsorship.

>>74743903
He gave them permission to though, why are you deflecting?

>>74743561
>Nijisis projecting cover contract out of their asshole.

>>74742210
Cover is still a soulless company. Cope.

>>74743874
Who the fuck is Luca? Some ENShitter?
>>74743891
>what is corporate theft

>meanwhile nijisanji selling selen's voice pack while she is in a hospital for a suicide attempt

>>74743325
>all lawyered up and then didn't use the lawyers
logic checks out.

>>74743426
did rushia appear in a similar way? i dont wanna watch the stream out of principle

>>74743833
They could probably find one in sanitation work, they would feel at ease there. It smells just like them.

>>74743952
Why would I project your soulless black company's tactics onto you?

>>74743783
I forgot that you're probably not familiar about Luca either. He's one of the top NijiEN talents and highest earners, along with one of I think 8 vtubers in all of Niji to have reached 1 million subs. So it's not a reach to say he spared from consequences that others would suffer from.

We love Mel here.

>>74743855

>>74744000
Then you don't deserve to know, sister

>>74741122
Who cares. The whore is not a holo anymore

>>74743993
Do you know what a hush settlement is? That's what happened, all 3 times. Cover is just strongarming themselves to avoid major reputational damage and it's truly amazing how they get away with it. I hope Legal Mindset touches this in his video about Hololive. It's important he does.

>Nijisisters, phasecuck, liggerkeks seething at Hololive the thread
Man, I love winning.

>>74744060
Ah right. A hush settlement that would prevent them from talking about it. Logic checks out.

>>74741621
>>74741673
>"Yeah Hololive is totally the same as Niji"
>"Yeah they're really soulless, I'm not watching them"
You didn't watch them in the first place, you Nijifags.
You can run away from your doxsite, but you can't hide.

>>74744038
Because you have no proof
Got it, you're firmly up a black company's asshole. You have nothing left but your own cope

>>74743325
Cocooooooooo the same girl who was happily showcasing Holo merch? The one saying the CEO is her friend on Discord? The one collabing with a certain rapper? Yes, she hates Cover. Loves Nijisanji

>>74744098
NO SHIT YOU FUCKING RETARD
God how hard is it for you Holobronies to understand? In all likelihood they were all paid off to not further press charges. And I'll be the one to tell you it's not just those 3, those are just the ones we currently publicly know.

>>74742881
Holy shit, I can smell the Chinese old woman virginness from here

>The fag is having a meltdown
LMAO

>>74744194
I'm white you faggot

>>74743325
Anon it's NDA of course whatever mel leaked we will not see on that, have your worked on a company? NDA issues don't get out and the least report you get is "X talent is terminated for violating NDA". I twould actually harm the company what info jumpee the NDA

>>74744129
>no proof
>there isnliterally an entire document of all the shit that Luca leaked to Raziel with sceeenshots

ITT Corp's cock suckers who say their Corp can do no wrong and is not Black despite acting just like Black Corps

>>74744170
Listen sister, this belongs to Ao3 where you can let your filthy fingers write all the gross fanfiction you love. I bet you have a few fanfics to update toooo

>>74744217
The public deserves to know, fuck corporations and fuck you bootlicking chudlets for enabling them to have mindshare. This hobby is pathetic because of you utter retards.

We need to kill all the Nijifags from this board; with the retarded zhang sisters fleeing the doxsite, even bait threads are low quality just like China's products.

>>74744043
already got my answer >>74743684 i'm only interested at the Tambourine Club episode, so yeah still not interested at watching the stream for it

I am just here to see some sisters meltdown.

>>74743273
>hololive has to leak the exact details of what was leaked or it didn't happen
okay retard

>>74744277
Actually we need to kill you scabs because 4chan is an anti-establishment website and corporations are inherently evil and will never be your friend.

>>74744170
Why would rushia even press charges? She started her own downfall lol she leaked stuffed to korekore when she was told to keep it shut and mgmt discovered what she was doing she was even replying to fans in private DM on how to support her and giving preferences for her paypigs

>>74744313
Yes, we the fans want answers. Why are you defending your billion dollar corporation so vehemently?

>>74741418
>Claims understands why she had to be terminated and there was no other choice for cover
>Still miffed by the decision
Woman moment.

>>74744170
I don't understand your point. It literally makes no sense.
>>74744217
At my company we tell people we had to fire someone for an NDA disclosure we just told everyone the secret. Then it's not a secret anymore, but everyone understands and feels better about the situation.

>>74744243
>>74744276
Same two sisters that's been shitting up this thread and posted this bait in the first place.
>their corp can do no wrong
No you retards, it's that some of us have had jobs where an NDA was required and understand the consequences of it.
Do I hate it? Yes.
Is it illegal? No.
But then again, jobless retards like you wouldn't understand.
>The public deserves to know
Cover literally posted Mel's termination in all their official accounts and websites, and also gave the reason for it.
Are you actually retarded you fucking schizos. Go back to sucking Vox's dick, because you Chinese retards give us nothing but headaches.

>>74744277
No, let them stay. That way, we can laugh and point at them when they go to twitter to seethe after being slapped around here.

Soon Cover and all Corps will become black as midnight with everyone waking up for Corps can only be Black

>>74744359
Because Cover fired her for the obvious reason that shouldn't have been one? You really cannot be denying this for the 100th time, right?
>she was even replying to fans in private DM on how to support her and giving preferences for her paypigs
This actually never happened. Cope harder.

>>74741418
>I understand why they had to terminate her
do you really?

>>74744324
>"anti-establishment"
>"4chan"
i found the fujosister retard.

>>74744021
>t. Nijinig projecting their soulless corpo
Stealing customer airtime and treat them like trash, oof

>>74743325
Imagine being this much of a Niji tourist that you don't know that Coco quit and there is plenty of evidence that Rushia leaked NDA stuff.
>>74743973
>theft
of what? IP that Cover owns? Zero of Mels voice is used. Your bait thread is shit Niji faggot and jannies should ban you

>>74744411
Ligger sis your chuuba is a failed 3dp whore.
>>74744324
Commie retard.

>>74742210
Realistically speaking what could've Mel shared that was so important? She was a fucking talent not like an accountant or some shit like that? All the talents should know are schedules and boring shit. Any sane person would agree with a slap on the wrist but nah they went full nuclear. Both Coco and Haachama insulted a whole country and costed them a whole branch and they just suspended Haachama and even begged Coco to stay. How was anything Mel could've done worse? I'm sure it was just a coincidence that it happened to Mel the only girl to have taken legal action against Cover before. Yeah, sure.

>>74744424
he got his knowledge from bvtm. please understand.

>>74744020
Basically >>74743973 and what >>74743652 probably meant about Nijisanji doing the same he actually meant "Nijisanji JP" and not "Nijisanji EN".

>>74744480
Information about the office, future projects, or personal information about other holomems.

>>74744369
Cover paid off their disgruntled workers to not proceed with the lawsuits put against them. It's a typical corporate practice or else there'd be no one working for them. Japan's labor laws are pathetic and sad for those reasons.
>>74744390
>and also gave the reason for it.
And why weren't we given the proof of it? Sounds more and more like they fired her because they just didn't like her.

>>74744480
Mel being an OG means she might've been privy to more sensitive information than say someone from HoloX. And also recall she supposedly had a lot of connections to music production related folk but don't quote on me that.

>>74744170
>there's no evidence of an NDA breach so it didn't happen
>also they definitely paid them hush money despite zero evidence for this, but trust me bro
overdose on your meds already

>>74744440
How fucking new are you?
>>74744462
Not even close. Read Stirner, newpig.

>>74744522
Ohhh noooo information like how many cameras and what type? You mean the shit Cover was parading around before?
https://cover-corp.com/en/news/detail/20230511-03
Future projects? Like the ones they announce months in advance?? Oh nooo that's sooo important yes anon I agree Mel should've been executed for this treason.

>>74744605
>Pic
Holy cringe, go back where you came from mongo.

>>74744524
>Paid off their disgruntled workers
Every country does this shit, it's called a severance fee.
Is it fucked that she was fired? Yes. Did she break an NDA that she specifically signed and agreed with, most likely regarding private info? Also yes.
We literally have Rushia showing how severe an NDA breach can be (she was leaking members about other talents for fuck sake).
>Why won't the company show proof of the information that she leaked that breaches NDA
Because it can be private info about Holomems, or other shit that clearly should NOT be shared with the public?
Same vibe as "Why doesn't the government show us all the secrets this scientist leaked to the CCP to prove that this scientist is guilty."
Are you actually fucking retarded?
Wait never mind, you're a fujosister, of course you are.

>>74744605
>wearing a guy fawkes mask now makes you a 4chan user
Okay? Just because fags coopted that from the V for Vendetta movie back in the day doesn't mean it still represents anons now.

>>74744652
No, stuff they choose not to disclose. Obviously.

>>74741122
>>74741418
The only reason there wasn't more backlash because it happened the same time as the Selen drama. If this happened in November when Tempus 3 debuted the rage would be unreal.

Wouldn't it come across as scummy to advertise themselves and continuing profit off Mel. Even if they own the design it would feel wrong to do that I'd say. So by your logic Nijisanji dumping all their Selen Merch on sale means Selen did nothing wrong, right sisters?

>>74744699
You CANNOT be this fucking new, right?

>>74744250
go back to /#/ sissyposter the adults are talking

>>74744366
>2view seething
It's funny how most ex nijisanji would shit talk nijisanji after their contract end while all ex holo doesn't shit talk holo, even kson said yagoo is his friend.

>>74744752
It was always cringe pseud.

>>74744752
You're the one that randomly posted a pic without any context, you tell me.

>>74742165
>I can't imagine what sort of reputable vtuber agency would engage in such blatant favoritism
How many solo lives and outfits and albums do Aqua and Suisei have again?

>>74744752
New arrivals from twitter.

>>74744719
Do you know how much this makes them worse?
>>74744771
Retard, Namie and Mikeneko

>>74744366
why would any company leak the shit they just fired someone for leaking you braindead retard? if they didn't want that info getting spread around in the first place, why would they spread it around even more themselves? do you even read the words you're typing? are you even capable of understanding what you're asking for you retarded child? the fact every party involved is saying Mel broke an NDA and was fired for it is all the proof any reasonable person needs.

>Sister can't stop seething itt
/thread/

This thread just reminds me of the fact that you shouldn't ever show a nijinig any degree of mercy. Remember when you see them get dunked on in the threads, the catalogue, twitter, reddit and in the youtube comments: they deserve it. All of them. TOTAL NIJI DEATH

>>74744816
No, how?

>>74744808
Note how the Cover pigs always conveniently forget the rampant favoritism in their shithole company.
Never forget Rushia had limited time in that Bloom concert at the expense of the other talentless whores.

>sisters are now all in for profiting from formert talens after sperging out for 4 fucking months about Selen having former members in her PV

>>74744752
you might want to sit down for a moment anon. a significant amount of the people on this board literally did not have internet when that happened. i'm not even exaggerating.

Oh, I get it now. This dude just ignores people pointing out how Cover wouldn't reveal what was leaked so he can just timeloop his anti-corpo rhetoric.

>>74744816
Sure you have proof of that right?

>>74744830
We the fans are owed answers. The customer is always right. How new are you to basic economics?
>>74744909
Sad state of affairs if people haven't been here before 2007

>>74744931
"the customer is always right" isn't economics.

>>74744909
Are you saying people unironically still do that Chanology shit? In 20-fuckin-24?

>>74744911
>we love billion dollar corporations here, leave them alone!
Never. Workers of the world unite!

>>74744605
>chanology
if anything, this just exposes you as a newfag

>>74744909
Not to mention people weren't here for Occupy either.
I hate newfaggots so much.

>>74744424
>This actually never happened. Cope harder.
It did by the way, it made the paypig get uppity and got into fights with other fans until she DMed him again to disown him, hence why he moved on to another yasuyuki girl and the grudge tweet after termination. The other one was just a Twitter present thing though

deflection thread, anycolor has been stealing from its livers to pay its own taxes

>>74744987
Is Cover actually worth a billion dollars now?

Interesting OP would be watching Holostreams instead of something he supposedly likes better huh

>>74744909
Chanology was always cringe retard.

>>74745047
Proof?

>>74745081
Damn, that's wild. Where can I read up on this?

>>74744931
it's worse than that, there are people here who weren't even born before 2007. i refuse to believe those tribal weirdos you see infesting every thread are older than 13.

>>74744931
>We the fans are owed answers.
no you're not.
>The customer is always right
in matters of taste. the end user is still not entitled to know the inner workings of any company
>How new are you to basic economics?
rich coming from someone that types and acts like a 12 year old

>>74745085
Is it not when it's the #1 agency in the world? Or are they lying to inflate their actual net value?

>>74745085
billion gazillion
>>74745123
i'm not writing a history lesson for you just because you're new. go do your own research.

Pekora beating the record for a kakarot stream deflection thread.

>>74745159
OK bootlicker

>>74745178
Does it? It's just the first time I've heard about Cover being worth a billion.

>>74744911
the more he posts the more convinced I am that it's some retarded teenager that heard about chanology and got the idea in his head that this some anarchist activist website.

>>74745221
you must be 18 or older to post here.

>>74745123
You can go digging around yourself too. It shouldn't be that hard to find.

>>74745248
Man, Chanology was what, '09? '10? Shit's old news, doubt any of the anons that participated in that want to be reminded of it.

>>74742210
Mel had to give an apology if her RM wanted to make any type of merch or sponsorship deals with other companies. That doesn't mean that she deserved to be fired by Hololive but only that she wanted to continue working in the vtuber industry. All 3 of the EN talents who got fired were obviously pissed with Cover after their "graduations" so that is mostly an issue with Japanese business culture.

>>74744931
The saying is the customer is always right when it comes to taste. Boomers shortened it so they can berate people who are poor.

>>74745344
Proof?

>>74745306
this is fake

>>74744987
Okay, so go demand Nijisanji pay their artist. Cover not disclosing potentially damning information on Mel is more worker friendly than anything Anycolor has done since it's existence you mongloid.

>>74745344
So i guess there no proof? sister this is 4chan not your dead doxxsite where you using your feeling instead of evidance.

>>74745637
you don't get it. nobody cares about nijisanji. we care about cover because we watch hololive.

People here only pretend to care about niji because there's no hololive drama to talk about.

>>74745403
>i don't want it to be real so it is not real

>>74741567
>you sound like an anti for not sucking corporate cock
Do you also agree that Cover was in the right for modding literal chinese antis to drive Coco out?

>>74745737
It's obvious you're a sister. You keep drilling the same braindead points and ignore actual abuse of employees.
For the record I am not a "holobronny" or whatever, I think Cover fucked up immensely with Coco and Aloe (her harassment was 100% from Nijiniggers though)

>>74745839
it was literally made by seething tribalfags. they made that and posted a video that was supposedly a private birthday message that was actually ripped from a superchat reading stream. do your reps silly advent kiddo.

>>74742210
>>74745785
this entire thread is a deflection thread since nijis are having actual drama >>74725456

>>74745395
Sana's RM tweeted out that since it was her twitter account she could tell her followers that she was completely healthy only a few days after her graduation, Vesper was angry with the blue triangle company, and Magni said they were sacrificed and was so furious that he was punching bags until his hands would bleed. Cover is usually good at keeping this stuff hidden but only a paid shill would claim that talents never get into fights with management.

>>74745949
I thought this was the new hotness: >>74736326

>>74744277
>even bait threads are low quality just like China's products.
BASED LMAO

>>74745983
Sana willingly lied to her viewers for months and played the part. She barely streamed and left to make art for gacha games. Vesper had a meltdown in Japan because he didn't take his meds.

>>74746016
never a dull moment with nijisanji I guess

>>74745983
>Magni said they were sacrificed
He also complained that his double dipping strategy didn't work. Vesper also by his own admission didn't want to the "idol" aspect of Holostars. Sana's case is similar to Magni, they want all the pros, none of the cons. She at least had the excuse of having to work on her other job and that being more important to her than streaming Kirby and Pokemon.

>>74745890
why do you want to talk about nijisanji so much? if you care about bad corporations you should be screeching about nestle all day, they literally have slaves and get people killed. are you deflecting? are you a nestlesister? oh wait, i'm not retarded so i know why you don't want to talk about nestle, it's because you don't care. that's me, but with your dumb vtuber company. i don't care if niji is bad. i don't care if niji dies. i don't care if niji suddenly becomes good. i don't care about niji. i care about things that i actually engage with. like hololive.

>>74741567
>It just so happens that it's the only crime she has unlike that green hair menhera so she got a merciful treatment
Merciful? They literally removed all of her streams and videos from her channel and basically memory holed her entire existence in Hololive. Everything she worked for is gone. I'm not saying she didn't do anything wrong, but her treatment was not "merciful".

>>74744911
he's a retarded millenial seething on vt

>>74746221
She can't make money off the channel anymore and Cover chose not to continue making money from it. They retired the model.

>>74746186
I'm actually involved in legal action against Nestle, you don't know me, faggot. You are just deflecting and making non-valid arguments against Cover. If you think not disclosing what Mel said and to who is a bad thing, you are not pro-workers rights. Also why not bring up a Chinese company like Foxcon who had suicide nets in their buildings, you faggot zhang?

>>74746186
nta but isn't cover way more poorer than niji? all this billion corpo bad talk literally applies to niji

>>74745983
>>74746087
>>74746181
sana wanted out. her roomate made a lot of money on comissions and she didn't find time to stream. it's that simple. she wasn't terminated and she had a great graduation stream

>>74746306
>why not bring up a Chinese company like Foxcon who had suicide nets in their buildings, you faggot zhang?
because It's a ching chong bugman who isn't even human but needs to "save face"

>>74746306
>you don't like corporations exploiting workers? then you must like this foreign dictatorship filled with sweatshops
most retarded tribal monkey
>>74746345
>isn't cover way more poorer than niji
the gap is rapidly closing, if it hasn't already.
>all this billion corpo bad talk literally applies to niji
duh, nijifags aren't retarded though they know niji is a black company.

>>74746533
>black company
enforcing an NDA doesn't make you a black company you fucking retard.

>>74746533
How is not releasing damning information on your employee that's guranteed to ruin any chances at being a streamer anti-worker you fucking mongloid? Unless it was damning information that jeopardizes the lives of other talents and staff, solving it internally was best for both parties but Mel benefits the most. How are you this fucking retard?

>>74746620
Let it go, anon. He's not arguing in good faith.

>>74746620
throwing a founding employee in the garbage over a minor slight does actually make you a black company

>>74746663
you don't know what she did. you can't say it's minor.

>>74746731
the fact that nobody knows what she did is the proof that it's minor

I called this months ago

>>74746749
it's proof she violated her nda.

>>74746663
>nda broken
>can range anywhere from releasing information about trade secrets, personal life of co-workers or other sensitive information
>other employees who earn more have also been fired for said breach
Equal treatment and they dished out the punishment in a way where Mel got to say goodbye, apologize and still keep her audience in her own channel without having a tumblr call out post with bullet points smearing her name.

>>74746775
there is no proof she violated her nda

>>74746805
She agreed her termination was justified you subhuman.
Breaking nda is not a slight, its a fucking big deal

>>74746786
Cover can keep getting away with firing their talents over vague as fuck NDA breaking because they know their beta male fans will back them up every time. Literally no different from kurosanji except they got their comeuppance at last.

>>74746760
>People still talk about Mel
>People defend Cover without shitting on Mel
>Only sisters soil Mel's name by impying she'd sue over something that baleful.

>>74743069
She unfollowed kotoka immediately after her termination announcement.

She was a male collaber. That's enough to fire her in my book.

>>74746894
Breaking NDA can range from telling your mom you're practicing for an event to selling sensitive corporate documents, talking about menial internal policy or even keeping a personal diary of your activities.
You have no fucking idea how vague these things are made in purpose you bootlicker.

>>74746786
if only the corporation was ran by empathetic humans who could have looked at the situation and decided it's better if they let her stay rather than act like autistic robots following code with no regard for people's happiness. can't have that in an idol company.
>>74746894
she released a written statement that was probably part of her termination settlement. check out sayu's graduation contract.

>>74746898
>vague NDA's
lol prove it, you're going to make that assertion the burden of proof is on you. I'm not buying your false flagging Phaseshill act either, we know you're a sister.

>>74747022
>just post Mel's contract huh don't have it? I win!
You're either underage or falseflagging whatever the case you're too young for the real world.

>>74746996
>”vague”
Damn I guess Kiara gonna get canned too. Well fuck even Gura gave hints about what she was working on and said she wasn’t supposed to. Damn we gonna run out of Holomems at this rate!

>>74747090
God wouldn't it be funny if Gura got fired over nda and has to be excluded from all their marketing and recaps from now on?

Biting the bait constantly is what they want, you know.

>>74747010
So right sister, they should have made a tumblr call out post bullet pointing her various infractions vaguely to smear her name so she gets harassed if she ever tried streaming on her own again.

>>74747075
>make a claim
>can't back it up
>has no idea what Mel actually said and to who she said it

>>74747090
Kiara outright has admitted to being Kiara off screen. Literally no company would ever make it so vague because it opens them up to lawsuits. These monkies will keep yelling the same talking points despite them being completely debunked or invalid.

>>74747075
You are fucking retarded because this isn’t your typica job, it’s more like WWE or other sports teams where even if the guys are already retire you keep a good relationship with them BECAUSE they can keep selling their goods no problem. ROYALTIES!!!

Of course then some people on royalties do dumb shit and then the companies don’t care about selling your merch anymore and cut you off instead. That’s Mel, literally no reason to fire any of these girls because they still make money off them and the girls can get their cut

>>74747203
wrong boogeyman monkey boy, try again.

>>74741122
they are no longer contracted, so they don't want to be possibly sued by Mel for violating her IP or find it too troublesome to pay her

Mel was fired for basically no reason. The proof comes straight from the mouths of multiple Holomen, even A-chan. They were all sad Mel was fired. If Mel actually did something bad, they would not be sad. They would say "holy shit she almost ruined the company glad that bitch is gone". Not a single one had that attitude. The fact that they all miss her is indisputable proof straight from the source.

>>74744020
The wave Luca is a part of, saved yhe career of the current head of vtuber management on the board of directors. Luxim is literally unterminatable

>>74746898
>Plappa
Could you remind me why Yuri was fired from Phase Connect?

>>74747393
>professionals shouldn't act professional, they need to help narrative spread so people attack Mel and not point the finger at Cover otherwise Cover is obviously guilty
Are you a teenager?

Did OPs 3 month ban run out? I remember seeing this same shit while ago.

>>74747393
Oh right, she broke NDA and everyone at the company deserves to know the secrets. Checks out.

>>74746898
Based
>>74747022
NDAs should never exist especially when the reasons are all bullshit

>>74747599
Probably just deflecting from the new Nijidramas.

>Mel graduates
>never once shittalks hololive, admits her mistake
>Kyo, Mika, Nina, Mint graduate
>IMMEDIATELY start talking shit and how nijisanji is, say they are glad how they are gone
I can see why sisters seethe daily

>>74747568
Why are you so intent on defending your billion dollar company that hates (You)?

>>74747718
>admits her mistake
More like she had to save face if she wanted to sell merch and regain opportunities in the industry she's in

>>74747249
At least you admit this whole industry is a farce
You're learning quite well

>>74747696
>NDAs should never exist
False but I don't want to get into legal theory with a chink who can't understand basic privacy rights and how they're often used to help protect employees, not just corporations. If you said something like "Non-competes should never exist" I would agree with you though.
>>74747730
No, I posted earlier I'm involved with a legal action against Nestle, a lot of corporations get away with shit because legal action against them is so draining and money consuming. I don't think Cover is infallible, they fucked up with Coco and have fucked up several times with the EN branch. That being said though, they are not petty and vindictive like Anycolor. Maybe it's because they have someone who knows how to do good PR but being petty, vindictive and pointing fingers when you're parting with a beloved talent(s) is very bad and nobody wins in that situation. Even though Mel is no longer Mel, her fans can still enjoy watching her, supporting her and she isn't getting hounded by antis who are loyal to the blue dorrito. If you believe Cover should have dragged her to through the dirt to protect their name you are mentally ill or a Nijisanji fan.

We talk about Mel daily so it's weird seeing people say otherwise.

>>74741471
>leaking information isn't wrong if you don't get caught

>>74747813
Why'd Cover give her such a send-off when we know what it looks like when they really want to get rid of someone? We don't get a pile of statements from fucking everybody about how how much this sucks but that they had no real choice in the matter - which they didn't, if it was a typical NDA breach.

>>74741567
>She leaked private info to wrong people
Oh so leaking information is allowed if it's just not the "wrong people"?

>>74747730
>Billion dollar company
Unless you are talking in monopoly money that is Yen, you should go back to school and learn math. Cover had to sell stocks to fund their new studio.

>>74742471
They don't know anything other than his to shitpost

>>74742236
Jesus christ it's still available

>>74742705
Is that why every time a nijEN fucks up you faggots pour out of the woodwork to insist its a low and that niji is satan? (And they are, but that's not the point)

>>74741122
Who is mel and who cares

>>74741122
>breaks NDA
>gets fired
did nobody in this board ever have a job?

>>74749108
...Yes, they have rules about what they can and can't do with people who are not close enough to the industry to understand how this shit works, though there seems to be reasonable exceptions for family. They can talk about job-related things with other Holos that they cannot talk about with their more typical friends, do you just not have any idea how NDAs work?

>>74747203
Noel and IRyS RM have also slipped up and said their Hololive name on stream. They just say oops and delete that section of the VOD.

>>74749498
The main nijisister doxxsite got nuked by the service provider not too long ago, so we are being flooded with a tide of brain-dead newfag subhumanity.

>>74749091
Did you actually think that was her though? It's clearly written by a manager

>>74749518
You're retarded. Information leaking is information leaking no matter who it's to. There are no "wrong people".

>>74749498
NDAs are always vague and bullshit. Fire people for things they should have been, like not streaming for their fans of the same language of their branch and offering a terrible excuse when called out.

>>74749614
It's not a leak when everyone's under the same NDA, and there are obvious contractual carve-outs that you are blatantly ignoring because you're probably a seething Nijicunt who doesn't even watch Holos.

>>74749661
>jab at FWMC
you are not subtle, little nigger

>>74749734
It's bullshit but she made her own bed so both she and Cover need to lie in the ones they've made. Be more transparent with this bullshit next time and don't leak shit because you will be caught.

>>74749734
Wow you still don't understand what I'm saying. That's really impressive but completely expected of someone that can't stop seething about niji.

>>74749777
Mad, Ruffcuck? :^)
KWAB

>>74749734
That's not what he's saying faggot

>>74749548
That's more of a compartmentalization thing than an NDA thing, though. Holopro talents and their roommates are not allowed to openly advertise each other.
Subtle hints are okay, though, like Calli having a pair of demonic dice in an MV, or Randon tweeting a photo of his spear.

the scenario where mel wasn’t fired goes as follows
>other girls figure it out
>”wait how come SHE can get away with breaking NDA?”
>woman moment ensues
>mel gets fired anyway but the other holos aren’t nice about it

>>74749852
i don’t watch fuwamoco, i have sensitive hearing and their voices make me dizzy

>>74741122
>niggersanjew owns your live2d,voice and personality
>COVER owns the live2d but not your voice/personality
Sounds plain and simple to me why they don't show the episodes with Rushia and Mels voices but will show the ones with images of them. Then again I don't expect trooncos to understand.

>>74749498
>Luca
>breaks NDA
>doesnt get fired
I guess we were hoping for a Luca outcome.

>>74750020
Then why you punching up to Daddy huh?
:^)

>>74742913
>cover deleting an entire branch overnight

Fucking based, they deserved it and then some.

>>74750111
I don't watch EN or males but there's no proof he broke NDA and you're just projecting for what your whores did to get fired

>74750144
the fuck does that even mean?

>>74750200
CN was unicorn sovl, you missed out. Way better than nuHoloslop

>>74750199
His dm leaks he literally said he could get fired for doing what he did. Cope harder sister

>>74741122
That's the best you've got sister? a corpo not mentioning a terminated talent?

>>74750215
>I-I don't even watch Fuwamoco
You just did if their voices make you dizzy bud :^)
KWAB + Stay Mad

>>74750302
It wasn't an NDA breach then if he's still there now is it?

>>74747203
>>74747249
The reddit kids are out of school today

>>74749091
Good PR to impress simpletons like you to run their damage control for free.
And why didn't you include kson and mike in the people who shittalked their former employer?
Because it goes against your narrative kek

>>74750488
Do you expect anything less from corporate bootlickers?

>>74750631
You mean nijisisters?

>>74749091
Because Cover thinks (You) are retarded and won't ever have the balls to stand up to their bullshit and you're sentient enough to take their malpractice like it's normal when it isn't. Why again have all 3 fired JP talents lawyered up in advance?

>>74750695
No, Holotribalists. The biggest corporate shills on this Reddit newfaggot board.

>>74750260
So OP finally admits that he is a chinese faggot? Not big surprise though

>>74750745
>popular thing bad
get in the locker

>>74750700
Coco was not fired, retard niji

>>74750602
Kson had a Holo merch bag in a cat picture not too long ago lmfao. Rushia dug her own grave after blowing eighth-truths and lies out of proportion. Middling IQ retards like you deserve nothing in life.

>>74744146
kson hates cover and believes that they enslave their vtubers.

>>74743069
Have not checked but apparently they made up after her termination (despite Mel unfollowing her, now they follow each other again), unfortunately, Kotoka might be suffering from severe guilt if she really was the reason Mel got canned.
I mean, yeah, Mel pardoned her, but Kotoka can't pardon herself, if she was the reason Mel got terminated, she quite literally destroyed her friend's dream job and corpo career just because of a menhera slip-up or a simple bragging rights moment. It's the type of stuff that doesn't let people sleep. She could be severely guilt ridden right now, and if she has family problems, then she doesn't have a stable environment to recover from both shocks. Cue indefinite hiatus.
If she's really guilty...
No need to berate Kotoka, her own mind is already doing the job. And way better than any anti could ever hope to.
You can run from antis
You can't hide from your mind

Damn sisters working overtime this is bait.

>>74751002
>you can’t shave your cunt on stream
>literally 1984 muh no talent freedom
what the fuck is her problem?

>>74750841
I'm a Yurochad though mate. JP hasn't been good in a year and EN sucks again. CN was the last pure branch of Hololive. No m*les at all.

>>74750886
This website is and always will be anti-establishment, newfaggot.
>>74750949
Explain the banishment room then, retard
>>74751002
I love it when drones conveniently memoryhole this

>>74741122
It's almost certainly a legal thing rather than anything to do with how anyone feels about it- if Cover itself comes off as trying to profit off of the work and likeness of an employee they terminated the contract of it give said employee grounds to sue them, I would assume. Emphasis "Cover itself," as talents aren't held to this standard for their individual projects (like how Marine was allowed to keep Rushia's appearance in the Set Sail MV.) And of course this doesn't apply when the talent leaves voluntarily because there's still presumably a contract that dictates the rules for how they can use the talent's work/likeness, how they get paid for it, etc.

>>74751599
Eurocuck mad that he's not a male vtuber in some retarded female vtubers dms.

>>74751758
All male vtubers should be graduated though

>>74751851
So should you.

>>74751860
OK little brown man, keep seething at my white presence

>>74751913
Seething brownoid wishes he was a White man so he pretends to be one online. Many such cases.

These 2 retards that keep goalpost moving their argument are at the point where they're wrapping back around Earth to their original spot.

Oh nice, finally found the Mel lewds thread

I'm so mad. I'm literally shaking right now. I'm never going to watch Hololive again. Phase Connect is so much better.

>>74746760
>make prediction
>makes posts to make his prediction right
>posts "my prediction was right"
Wow anon, are you Nostradamus or something?

>>74751599
Fuck off retard all of the CN talents with only 2 exceptions maybe even 1 were fucking snakes and rats and seeing faggots like you thinking they were pure or innocent is insane

>>74752338

>>74750991
And the argument in bad faith was that ex talents never shit talk cover which is false

>>74753210
You are the most retarded nigger faggot I have had the displeasure of encountering. Go back to nyfco, oh wait you can't.

>>74751119
can any psychology students figure out why it's always esls making these sissyposts and acting like tribal weirdos

>>74753639
A lot of nijien is filipino. National pride or something along those lines.

>>74754810
no i'm talking about the holobronies who accuse literally everyone of being a lady.