/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

wait what? qrd??

kys, go back to >>>/biz/, and kys again

>>74569583
BASED, i was waiting for this thread after that sea of Holokek shitting on our concert tb.h, I will camp this thread with you!

>>74569583
The jannies on this shit is a fucking joke

When fags post Cover stocks, it's allowed. But when an Anycolor stock gains 10 replies it got pruned

>>74569583
what having 50 talents and 3 streams live on average does to a motherfucker
the money they are losing on stars is piss in the wind in larger picture

>>74569583
Posibilities:
>They're investing on California branch, no fund left to pull it up
>The homo become a burden to the corpo
>Investor want a bigger share, but Yagoo prioritizes fund for talents
>They expect a breakthrough with rust vcr, but it was a flop

>>74569583
>Cover has had enough and cut the homos loose
Don't worry sister. I'm sure Cover will follow in Anycolor's footsteps after 2 more weeks. Surely.

>>74569617
Astel told his fans that stars 5th anniversary concert might be the last

>>74569583
cope more sister lol
>>74569787
>>74563079
>>74570098

>>74569583
Ask the question. What events are coming? Holosummer? We have no info about that.
The only thing we have info on is... Homo concert without single sponsor...
Yeah, I wouldn't put my money on Cover as well. They really dropped ball but not teasing anything on Holofes.

>>74570627
>Movin On
kek so the title actually meant that

>>74570810
He said if theres a next concert, it might well be 10th anniversary
It seems the investors are done with them and finally force yagoo to loosen his grip to stars

>>74570627
Not necessarily. He said it's going to be much harder to try and rehearse for a 6th anniversary live. He wanted to make the 5th one his best.

>>74570760
love to see it

>>74570923
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>>74570956
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>>74569583
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO NO MORE COLLABS!!!!!!

>>74569722
They have become weaponized by companies and cliques on discord.

>>74569696
WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>74570923
It's nothing new for talents to pay out of their own pocket. Even before the IPO Starscolle got cancelled.

Our Rhapsody of shit is the laughing stock of the internet, let's get owned one more time posting about stocks with 0 literacy about the matter, sisters you make our days brighter>>74569583

>>74571028
>NO MORE COLLABS!!!!!!
In the same rant he said they need to increase their numbers... by doing more collabs.

>>74571028
No more 3D Lives for a while. Collabs are still a thing.

>>74570923
>entire branch
>they mostly aren't interested in actually growing, just kind of doing their thing except asteru and robertu
>investeru get tired of this
EN managers will soon force gura to streamu.

>>74571090
Anon... Stars Yearly Anniversaries are always paid by Cover

What does "New 52 week low" mean? Is that a good thing?

>>74569617
Nothing... just the traditional weekly thread, where is pretended that the stock is going down because investors don't want Holostars to exist, or that they don't want Hololive girls to interact with males - because that's how mentally challenged some people are. And if only Holostars would be axed, Cover stock would go to the moon, lol.

>>74571228
Lol no. Cover does the sign off. The management of the branches have to pay out. StarsJP evidently cannot maintain if most of their members aren't interested in growing.

>>74570923
That sucks. I like the boys. Hope they recover since they all seem like good dudes.

>>74571177
Gura is making them millions though
>Goobie is the Mickeymouse of hololive

>>74571406
She could be making them gorillions but doesn't because no streams.

>>74569583
Kek

>>74571165
>>74571173
FUCK!

>>74571269
Yes. It means they're diverting some of the money to their talents' wallets.

>>74571512
2D karaoke spinning

You wonder why?
Because stocks fluctuate for many reasons, and one of them is revenue, Cover is now on the time of their yearly stock drops, because at this point in time the reports show a significant drop.
And that is because the past report includes the revenue from holoFes.
Now if their stocks don't begin to recover by June then THAT is a time where you can wonder about their stock drop or celebrate I guess.

>>74571512
>80$
Kek

>>74571177
Gura doing nothing generates more money for Cover than 20+ faggots trying their hardest.

>>74571509
Youtube money is getting progressively less important for Cover's annual revenue while everything else is growing. Yeah, if Gura streamer it would get them extra money but it's definitely not gorillions and stuff like the Sushiro collab are way more lucrative than a year of SCs.

>>74569722
I’ve seen the opposite more often.

>>74571173
Dang it. here I thought we're finally safe from the homo menace

>>74569583
>Crashed the vtuber market so hard they will sink us with them
Fucking nijiniggers man

>>74571903
hololive will be fine because they're investing in long-term growth, unlike riku who outright admitted he is only interested in short-term gains

>>74570923
What investors? You guys are ridiculously stupid... you are all acts as those business specialists, but just prove how out of the loop you are. Investors can't do shit to force Yagoo do anything. A shareholder board needs majority to force any kind of change in a publicly traded company. Yagoo holds over 40% of Cover's shares. Another 30% are owned by other Cover Employees. That's 70% of the shares my dude. Cover just put a limited amount of their shares on the market to just gather funds for their studio and expansion. The investors have no power. A-chan alone has more stocks than all the major investors combined. So calm down. Yagoo is not taking any grip of the Stars. Is just that solo lives are expensive and high risk events. Cover is conservative even with Hololive's events. I mean, they still prefer to sell tickets trough lottery systems and sell below demand, than risk not selling out an event.

>>74571903
Vtubing peaked in 2020 due to circumstances that will never be replicated. Now people are realizing the market is saturated and that it isn't unique anymore so they're leaving and the taking their money with them.

>>74572120
>due to circumstances that will never be replicated.
Are you sure Anon just wait until the "cold" come

>>74571902
>We
Speak for yourself. I enjoy the collabs.

>>74572102
Thats doesnt mean they will just shut up and let the dying stars continue to drain money from them
>Cover doesnt sold shares just to share profit, its also to share decision making

>cover stops making stuff accessible for kaigais who were hard carrying stars jp
>no marketing push locally

gee I wonder why the jp boys stagnated and why their concert might be their last big event

>>74572205
GAY. KEK. FAGGOT.

>>74572273
Cover will never be a Black Company

>>74572309
Well, starsEN failed to become something
Instead of Making their own name and branding, they goes directly to holoGirls for juicy collabs
>Dick brain move

>>74572309
>Cover unintentionally sabotaged the homos
Utterly based.

>>74572340
Sorry I like straight content but that doesn't mean you should hate yourself anon

>>74572385
>Sharing decision making
>Black
Really nigga?

>>74572443
I didn't realize we're still in 2022. Let me guess. Vesper is collabing with Kronii again?

>>74572502
You misunderstand. It's axing an entire branch from the biased views of retards here that think they don't make money. That shit is from Anycolor's playbook.

>>74572523
Were talking about the first StarsEN
They couldve been luxiem but they chooses not to

>>74572455
>straight content
That means you're either a subhuman shipper or a self-insert fag which unironically makes you worse.

>>74572443
where did I mention stars en nigga what year is it in your pea brain head

>>74572642
I'm neither. I just like boys vs girls. It's that simply. You don't get that kind of toxicity from boys vs boys or girls vs girls

>>74572455
>straight
oh you mean KEK content, got it.

>>74572699
Jesus. Talk about shit taste.

>>74572615
Sorry they weren't up to your standards sister. But I would never subject them to the feet of femicorns.

>>74571512
2D karaoke spinning

>>74572570
>retards here that think they don't make money
They dont though, why do you think cover doesnt put them on cover-note (aside from subs count)?

>>74572729
I'm sorry you got cucked anon but projecting it will not make the pain go away

>>74572699
hmmmm so basically you'll be fine with some guy fucking your wife in front of you? Okay, cool, don't worry we won't judge you for that, everyone has their own weird kink

>>74572759
Of course you'd know what it tastes like considering you consume them on a daily basis.

Niji concert deflection thread as obvious as the sun.

>>74572838
ironic saying that when your'e the one getting cucked lol

>>74572791
If they don't. Why are they still around? YAGOO isn't dumb enough to keep liabilities around.

>>74572615
JP is the one on the chopping black retard and EN does not need your nijisister cancer

>>74572921
That might've been the single worst "comeback" I've ever seen in this board, but go off anon.

>>74572936
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>>74572880
If this is your logic then your parents must be dead. I didn't realize threatening to kill each other = sex.

>>74573063
fucking typo kek

>>74570466
>people who don't understand anything about stocks
The real reason is that Cover stock was massively overvalued for the revenue that it generated. There does not need to be any specific event that causes stock prices to drop. The investors just need lose some faith in the belief of massive growth that was already priced in the stock price. Investors have way better things to do with their time than look at micro details like the stream numbers of individual vcr streams. They look at the revenue generated by the entire company, and if it goes up at least as fast as they expected they are happy, and if it under-performs, they are not.

>>74573066
And you can have wrong opinions. It's okay.

>>74571903
>they will sink us with them
Stocks have literally never mattered to Cover. This is why nobody cares about their stock price "tanking".
In fact I thought you knew better than this, as the whole point is to deflect from Nijisanji's stocks still taking a nosedive despite having a reliance on them.

>>74573229
Talking about yourself now?

>>74573279
>>74573066

>>74569583
Nijikek, Im sorry even the homos are beating Nijien, but they did it to themselves.

>>74573368
How the FUCK are HOMOstars sold out before them

>>74573312
Damn, that really hurt your feelings, huh? Don't worry anon, it's not a crime to have shit taste but lying to yourself that your taste if refined is definitely not healthy.

>>74569583
>they'll definitely stop having male employees now
>he said, for the thousandth time, fervently hoping because he can't cope with other guys getting a job he can't

>>74573008
Not a good thing to do now because of Doki

>>74573538
Are you one of those retards who think Doki's blacklisted from Hololive?

>>74573538
Pretty sure if that happens, Doki's starting a fucking vtuber group to regain TSB. Do not wallow, TSB will swallow.

>>74573646
Jesus! How did you get to that conclusion?
Atleast learn a little from this>>74573790

>>74569583
Wonder why this is brought up unprompted. Leave us alone sisters

>>74574076
Niji tech thriving.

>>74570627
>>74569583
fuck yea, great news, kill all homos. total homo death

>>74572880
>I see women as my wives or girlfriends
Come out of the basement faggot

>>74569722
jannies do weird shit. I can post whatever the fuck I want on /pw/ but if I post a pic of IYO SKY at a house show wearing a fuck christmas shirt it gets pruned. no warning, no ban, just thread gone. Which is weird because IYO rikes christmas and was just wearing the shirt to shitpost

>>74572120
That's nonsense. Peak means the highest growth level. 2020 was just the start of the boom. Vtubing today is incomparably bigger than it was in 2020.
You are all acting like that was the peak just because that's when Myth's CCV was the highest, when in reality it was just their first 6 months of their career so the honey moon, and Myth was basically the entire EN industry on Youtube at the time, vs now when HoloEN has 3 generations, there is Holostars, there is NijiEN, there is Phase, Idol, there are big indies on both YouTube and Twitch, and so on.

Another day, another sister once again bringing up Holostars unprompted go harass someone else nijicunt what the fuck did we do to you? Did Milord's costume flop again? Fuck off.

>>74572273
>Thats doesnt mean they will just shut up and let the dying stars continue to drain money from them
What?! Dude, you live in Lala Land. You are out of your bloody mind, if you think 99% of those investors even know what Hololive really is, or what Holostars is. Those are financiers my dude. Trust funds. They only look at financial data - profit margins and growth. Everything else is irrelevant. You all talk about Holostars draining resources from Hololive and being subsidized... where is that data coming from? What's your evidence? You peoples just make ideas in your own heads, and present them as factual truths. Is vtubing my dude, not steel industry. Holostars isn't consuming oil and raw materials to stream.

>>74569722
Here's a dirty secret.
If a thread or post is reported enough, it's auto deleted.
Use this information however you want.

itt: Nijiniggers and Homofaggots killing each other
LET'S FUCKIN GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>74574705
>T. living in Lala Land
With that mucho texto I can confirm its true

>>74572273
Investors don't care who the talents are so long as they make money. You must be a fucking idiot not to know that. You think some old man would seethe when a girl starts collabing with a guy?

>>74574574
>Did Milord's costume flop again?
Nope, its the concert this time. >>74571512

>>74574747
No way that's true. If it is that is genuinely one of the dumbest things Hiromoot has done with this shitty website since blue boards

>>74572791
Cover doesn't puts HoloEN on the cover not either... I guess they don't make money either? Or is just that Cover just puts the profits from all the branches in the same graphs, and the only separation they make is in the origin of the revenue as overseas revenue/domestic revenue.

Rhapsody didn't do well as expected

>>74574747
bullshit

>>74571512
Meanwhile ollie literally thirty minutes ago

>>74574999
>HoloEN
>not on cover-note
...

>>74574747
lol no, you’re talking out your ass

>>74570466
Jesus christ... you guys spend so much time on /numbers that you start thinking, the stock market works the same, and investors follow up streams and the value of the stock is influenced by that.

None of the 'possibilities' have anything to do with reality. Cover's (and Anycolor's) stock was overvalued because it was treated as a tech company. Cover delivered 50% YoY growth in Q3, but even so it was under the market's and analysts' expectations, who anticipated 70% or more, as they got used with +100% growth. So Cover stock lost a couple percents and started to correct itself. Then the Niji drama started and Anycolor's stock dropped, and Cover dropped together with it, because investors don't know anything about Hololive or Niji, they just see that there are just 2 companies in the same industry, so when they drop stock from one they drop from both. Then Niji delivered a bad Q3 report, and the shock spooked Cover's investors too, so Cover's stock went down together with Anycolor. Anycolor took correction measures, like doing buy outs prior to Q3 report, and then bans on sales after it, in an attempt to slow down the collapse. Meanwhile Cover did nothing to interfere with the stock value, and likely is betting everything on the Q4 report, as a result, Cover's decline in the stock value has been almost uninterrupted.

>>74570783
Holosumer stats in August. And has no importance on the stock market. Events have no real influence on the stock market, unless is something massive, like Anycolors sponsorship with the Google phone or something. Stock goes up or down mainly as a result of financial reports, of which we have 4 a year. Everything else is just small fluctuations. Anycolor's phone sponsorship deal gave them a 5% or so boost that was gone 3 days later.

>>74575829
>and likely is betting everything on the Q4 report
You say this as though Cover cares at all about their stock price in the first place.

>>74570923
Investors can't force Yagoo to do anything. He is the majority shareholder. His want's are the law in the company. Did you not see what it took to take down McMahon from WWE, just because he had 30% of the shares?

>>74576020
They do. They went public for a reason, and they want to stay public. Plus, the higher the stock value, the more money they make. If then need funds, they sell shares, and the more higher in value the stock is, the less shares they need to sell.

>>74576252
>They went public for a reason
Yeah, they specified it was to help build the studio in time.

>>74574705
there is no evidence because Cover hides homo numbers kek

>>74575631
They are not in the financial data as a separate entity. We have no idea how much money they make or if they grew or slowed down, because HoloEN's financial data is mixed in with the entirety of Hololive, unlike in Anycolor's report, where financial data for NijiJP and NijiEN is separate.

>>74576342
Well if there is no evidence for their financials, then you have no evidence for them being a failure or losing money either. So all you are spewing is propaganda. Thanks for acknowledging the truth.

>>74576326
No, it was because that was their only option to expand other than selling off the company. They have been funding more than their studio, they are funding their expansion, their merch development, their employment. Their profit margins are too small, and that makes them too vulnerable to fluctuations in revenue. So if they had a bad year or even a quarter, they would need to go in debt and cut personnel to cover the financial hole. Being publicly traded gives them a safety umbrella. If they need to funds, even for an emergency all they need to do is sell shares. Also, they can loan money using stock as collateral instead of more risky assets such as... I don't know, they offices?

>>74576342
So why are they not fired yet? Go on. Let's see some bullshit you got caught up in that ass of yours.

>>74576662
>it was because that was their only option to expand other than selling off the company
Yeah, with their massive fucking studio that cost them billions of fucking yen

>>74576770
spent it on a studio unlike someone else that spent it on stocks

>>74569583
all homos should be fired.

>>74574294
Did you just completely ignore the part about the market being saturated, Anon?

>>74573197
If Cover's stock is overvalued, then how about Anycolor's stock?

>>74577566
>Cover should be like Niji and fire their weakest branch

>>74569583
If the homos are truly getting canned, how are dramafags and Cover shills going to make it look like it’s a good thing canning the boys just because it’s Cover’s decision?

>>74573538
Even before the Doki fiasco. They've had every opportunity to do so. The fact that they haven't means they have no plan to.

>>74578908
A schism. Some people might pull the
"Cover is no better than Niji because they got rid of their weakest branch who have broken no contract.

>>74573505
>>74573312

>>74573416
Turns out Homostars don't have a clique-like mentality despite how much the board believes they do.

>>74578908
just point people out to the fact that Uproar, aka the worst-performing gen of this company got their anniversary 3D live before Myth, aka the Gura gen

>>74569583
>>74570627
Source? There's no way this is true, good stuff never happens.

>>74579261
1. OP is a seething Nijisisters deflecting from the flopsody

2. The second tag is somewhat correct. The only wrong part is it won't be the last, StarsJP will be unable to host an anniversary 3D Live until the others can catch up. Astel goes on a rant that only he and Roberu are making an effort and very recently Aruran and Gamma. Everyone else keeps being snug in their safe space.

>>74579230
They're Japanese anon. I don't think it's just a numbers thing.

>>74573416
idk if this is true, but the cope is there was way more tickets available for the nijis

>>74573160
>>74574204
>ohh my! I can't wait to see my Beloved oshi being so chummy and maybe even flirty with some male and watch them like a good cuck!
sure faggots. Enjoy your cuckoldry.

>>74579369
I fucking knew it. Cover doesn't have the guts to enrage Reddit and Twitter.

>>74577936
The market was saturated in 2020 too anon, and so it was in 2021. And so on. Do you know how you desaturate the market? You create more space by expanding it. That's how NijiEN became a thing. How do you think that Luxiem and the other guys got so big? In 2020, nobody even believed that there is a space for Male Vtubers on the English market. Then, Niji created it. Now we can say that there is saturation in a niche that didn't even exist until 2022. Phase, Idol, Vshoujo - all those companies managed to come in the market and grow, because the market itself has been growing, and it's still growing.
Is the same for JP. In 2020, there were like 20 000 vtubers in Japan. Did that stop Brave? Peoples were laughing at MAHA5 few years ago when they opened a JP branch... and yet, they are growing. People said that there is no space for Vtubers on the Spanish market, yet Spanish corpos, such as AKA are the fastest growing right.
We are still far from the peak of vtubing.

>>74578762
Anycolor's is also slightly overvalued, but Anycolor already had a correction in like 2022, when it went all the way to 6000 to then crash to 1900 3 months latter.

>>74569583
Don't you sisters have a concert to attend to?

>>74571903
The Atari of VTubing

>>74579230
Did you memory hole covid lockdowns? Why would JPs have to wait?

>>74579997
Kek this is the only vtuber concert were the performers make up for 1/3rd of the total people in attendance.

>>74569722
sisters on staff

>>74569583
Are you sure about that?