/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Considering that they have not publicly spoken to one another when they freely can do so. It makes me say not really. Just co workers.

fpbp

That said, they worked incredibly well together and I hope they collaborate again in the future. They're clearly not hostile, if anything.

>>74515814
Pomu is a traitorous whore who threw selen under the bus behind the scenes.

>>74515814
they are akin to sneed and chuck

>>74518064
Cute but unlikely.
I find it much more believable that anyone not directly involved with selen's harassment had no idea it was going on, or maybe only knew selen was unhappy for whatever reason but not why. Even now, her wording exclusively blames herself instead of the company or anyone there directly, and she has a bad habit of bottling up her emotions until they explode. I doubt anyone other than Gumi, Mumei, and maybe a few other close IRL friends had any clue she was having such a tough time.

>>74515814
No, they were bitter enemies who always cunts to each other
https://youtu.be/ri1qBy_14kg?si=FYm4RzQOwxlLHwH9

>>74518149
Which one is sneed and which one is chuck is the real question.

>>74518259
Im pretty sure pomu was in the pre-niji clique

>>74518064
why was there a bus

>>74518528
She was an orbiter, always an accessory at most. It's enough for plausible deniability, at least.

>>74516313
Judging their private lives based off of what they do public is stupid. Public facing is just the job, what you don't see isn't.

I feel like this doki haters would have a nuclear meltdown if mint collabed with doki it would shatter their world view or something

>>74518559
Sister's can't drive

>>74515814
They're just waiting for the drama to die down

>>74518421
I know this was a bait post but anyone got any more selen pomu videos to watch while the sisters come up with their baits.

>>74518659
That said, I can kinda see why the sisters love gossip so much. It's kind of fun when you're bored.

>>74518664
I was thinking that, too. The most charitable possible interpretation of events is that Doki and Mint are besties behind the scenes and that Doki specifically doesn't want to harm Mint's career because she thinks she's toxic to the "bigger" vtuber scene and believes Mint needs space to get back into vtubing properly to not get Quinn'd. The least charitable one is that Doki has absolutely ghosted Mint too, just like everyone else from Nijisanji past and present. The reality is likely something in between and that they're both focusing on their own careers while both of them are trying to stay as drama free as possible, as Doki has not mentioned or even referenced Nijisanji or even a current or ex-member a single time in 3 full months outside of U-san. Even in her most mentally unstable statements, it was always "I heard slander about me being spoken" and not "Nijisanji is a lying sack of shit trying to ruin my Neopets stream."

>>74519062

well it makes sense doki though she was a brand risk until recently with all the big brands showing her some love

Pomu gave up her outfit ticket to share her design with Selen.
Selen spent thousands on a promo game celebrating said outfits.
You don't just throw away a chance to have artists make you a custom skinsuit for anyone.
Doki referenced Pomu indirectly by showing custom merch she had made.
Mint referenced an old injoke when reminded about Selen's ign on the fly.

People keep crying about "but they're not interacting publicly!", while conveniently ignoring that every action and word they say is still being combed through for the tiniest crumbs of drama. Doki is still radioactive. Usan and Matara have been away from Niji long enough to not be dragged into corpo shitflinging. If I were Doki, I wouldn't want people I care about and who I worked with to risk public scrutiny for being associated with me. Filian, dtto, Snuffy, etc. They're all established talents that could easily weather any attacks by sisters. Mint had just come back, and she got attacked without even having talked to Doki. My rrat is they won't have any pulbic interactions until both have gotten enough emotional distance to their time at Niji and the public has moved on. I could be wrong, but I don't think they weren't just coworkers that just just happen to have an amazing chemistry and were mandated to collab.

>>74519670
^ this 100%. It's clear that Mint just wants to stay away from the drama, she's not only "conveniently" avoiding talking about Doki, she's not talking about Nijisanji nor her past experiences at *all*.

>>74519670
whoa whoa whoa buddy, a thoughtful and nuanced post?
Nah, it's way more likely that every interaction we ever saw between them was a calculated manipulation of the viewers and that Pomu hates Selen because the voices in my head told me so.

>>74515814
They were co-workers who got along.
Most people wouldn't consider their co-workers friends.

>>74519670
Most sane /vt/ poster.

>>74518755
this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLx6DkBo0X0

>>74519062
An even most hotter take - Selen doesn't have negative feelings towards any liver in Nijisanji. She's distanced herself from the company for the sake of her own therapy and in time she'll probably start mentioning stuff that'd have people hating on Nijisanji scratching their heads. Everything in the Last Cup of Coffee was deliberately approved by her.

they are both clout chasers who used nijisanji as a platform to gain established popularity and then talks crap about the company on their new lives. seen this before with notgundou.

>>74523933
That'd be fun, but from what I know of Selen, it's that she's almost as much of a doormat as Sayu is. It's possible that throughout her experiences, up until the suicide attempt she herself didn't accept that she was being bullied or harassed by the talents or management, which is why her casual journal was so dangerous that they got terrified enough to push the termination forwards after receiving it. She seems like the kind of person to make someone a gift, have them toss it on the ground in front of her, and then blame herself for not making a good enough gift.

>>74515814
More than that.. they're...
Bros
>Shelter starts playing for some reason.
https://youtu.be/fzQ6gRAEoy0

The lynchpin in this situation из Matara. Throughout the entire February scandal she has not shown ANY signs of distancing herself from Enna and Reimu. They might have gaslit her into believing Selen/Doki is the devil incarnate and that she is to blame for everything going to shit, and in turn, Matara could be gaslighting Mint into believing the same. So far, Mint has been resisting this, because, despite setting up a podcast with Matara, on her PL account there have been signs that she's blown Matara off on karaoke outings and the Disneyland trip (Mint went with her IRL friend, but not with Matara). My rrat is that Mint put her foot down and told Matara that she refuses to associate with anyone who is still in Niji. The deleted twitter space where she spoke about "being traumatized by something that happened at her previous workplace" fits neatly into this interpretation of what's happening.
There’s been many hints that at the very least Ethyria girls are guilty of harassing Selen - Enna's tweet where she's laughing her ass off, Millie being passive-agressive about MV perms, Reimu's "attempt" tweet and gag noises at Doki's Shinkansen 0 cameo.

>>74524570
That's a dangerous rrat.
I don't want to believe Matara is THAT evil. Selfish and manipulative? Maybe, but If there's one thing I've known from following Sayu since her termination, it's that most people are always some form of grey (except Quinn). I doubt Niji's brainwashing became some kind of villain origin story for Matara.

>>74524732
you never know. sometimes hurt people will reflect their hurt on others around them, and matara is unironically an unstable feminism schizo so who knows what she does behind the scenes

>>74524732
That's why i said that Matara has been gaslit herself. The ones who truly are evil cunts are Enna and co.

>>74515814
No
NEXT THREAD

>>74524335
If you believe Nijisanji's termination letter her complaint as far as livers go was harassment caused by mismanagement. Maybe she was just mature enough to realize the problem with others - as much as she had them - were caused by management and not some form of interpersonal animosity. She was very amicable towards the people in the black screen, even when she didn't have to be.

>>74523943
Maybe Anycolor should have treated them all better so they wouldn't want to leave in the first place

>>74525912
The thing that gets me ever since I read it a day or two ago is that if you go back through all of her tweets, AND both vods, she never mentions Nijisanji or even a specific name related to that company once. Ever. Even to this day, she has NEVER said the word Nijisanji. On top of that, it's always passive whenever she's talking about them. It's not "They bullied me to suicide." It's "A buildup that stemmed for multiple months that led to my breaking point." It's not "They're saying lies about me right now." it's "I heard slander about me and outright lies being told about me."

From her direct words, all of the blame is always directed towards her and HER perceptions, never anyone else, even when she's being an emotional wreck during Neopets.

>>74523943
>talks crap
Any examples of that?

>>74524570
I'm not so sure here. Matara alluded to a "a friend" a few days ago in a scenario, that sounds vaguely familiar. 4 hours into her vod from 3 days ago
This friend:
>Recently started streaming
>Has publicly facing business email and is overwhelmed with offers/requests/phishing etc
>Was seeking advice on where to get someone to filter through it all
Meanwhile doki has been pretty open about how overwhelmed she and her manager have been with everything coming in to her email.
It could be anyone, but I don't see why she wouldn't bring up a name if it was mint or any of the ex-nijis she's openly interacting with.

>>74518559
Can't drive a yacht on land, doofus

>>74524732
>except Quinn
It's always hilarious to me how this faggot gets pot shotted constantly, but no one can muster the energy to hate him.

>>74515814
Elira talked about Pomu recently https://youtu.be/STzOzyG87oo?t=22840
And also referenced her podcast with Matara https://youtu.be/STzOzyG87oo?t=23438
It's pretty obvious who Pomu is still friends with

>>74526636
Oh trust me, Sayu and her fans fucking HATE him. Sayu even abandoned her desire to reconcile with Matara because of him.

>>74523943
Crazy how EVERYBODY that leaves niji talks shit about it, even the jap ex-nijis

>>74526788
I hope it's revealed Selen and Elira are cool with each other behind the scenes, simply so you can mald.

>>74523358
Oh yeah, this rrat is always fun.

>>74526788
>leeching someone who left the company due to neglect and mistreatment, all in an attempt to repair her own broken image
Disgusting

>>74515814
At first, they were friendly coworkers, then for a while they were friends, but because Selen was autistic and self isolated herself from NijiEN, Selen became obsessed with Pomu, and would always pester her for collabs, Pomu treated her nicely, but they weren't friend anymore, Pomu at some point became the tard wangler of Selen and that lasted until her graduation.

After the whole Selen drama, Pomu stopped being friends and stop any contact with Selen because she realized Selen was a menhera that hurt her friends.

>>74526636
Sayu despises him, and she got Kenji, the man who made a 500k view video going through her doxxes, both real and fake, and calling her a pedophile rapist with children, to publicly apologize after forcing him into DMs and is now no longer hostile.

It takes a LOT for Sayu to hate you to the point of giving up on reconciliation.

>>74526788
>giving views to Elira
Oh you can fuck right off with that

>>74527101
>>74527207
So this is the new cope dookiekeks are going with huh?

>>74527021
That's what I want too, but it's looking doubtful.

>>74527125
the fanfiction thread is down the hall.
>>74364055

>>74527419
They meet once IRL, and it was because Pomu was going to visit Elira, Enna, Nina, Rosemi and Millie in Canada.

>>74527539
That's kind of crazy considering Selen is on the opposite side of the continent from Elira and friends, isn't it? She must have been quite the traveler.

>>74527539
You don't even know when or where they met lol

>>74524570
>>74524732
>>74524922
It's honestly wild how Matara still associates with Eyhyria after how they originally locked her out and lied to her.

>>74527021
Given how all signs point to Elira sabotaging Selen's merch colalbs, I doubt that's the case.

>>74527316
Sounds to me like you're the one coping. Mint has not shown any signs of reciprocating Elira's attempts to reconnect.

>>74527670
>Elira references Mint
>Mint references Elira
>somehow it doesn't count because... just because ok!?!?!?!?!?
lol
lmao
kek even

>>74527539
Holy shit Nijisisters don't know ANYTHING about the girls

>>74527720
>Mint references Elira
Where?

>>74527720
Omitting context, are we? Mint referenced NOVA. Once, after being promoted by chat. And all she talked about is Minecraft

>>74527873
*prompted
Fucking hell

>>74527647
That's the one thing that confuses the hell out of me. She was able to make up with Ethyria despite all of the things she's publicly claimed they've done, but Sayu, who was allegedly a friend, was nonperson'd for a mistake that just repeated something she's stated countless times before and since.

>>74527720
>>Mint references Elira
You mean when she forgot that she played Minecraft with NOVA (not Elira), and chat had to remind her?

>>74527873
>muh context
cope
>>74527874
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM_CyUvvWdk

>>74515814
Pomu is ashamed for never standing up for her

>>74527873
>>74528023
>samefag coping
KEKKAROO

>>74526236
dooki was laughing at a joke about the main character getting fired by a company in the bunny garden game, she did it out of malicious intent to stab nijisanji in the back.

>>74528146
Calling it cope instead of denying it means we're right.

>>74528197
>it took him a minute to inspect element

>>74518259
Why iPN never acknowledged Doki since her return?

>>74515814
No. If you put them inside the octagon, they beat the crap out of each other.

>>74528253
>no argument
I accept your concession :)

>>74528290
>no argument
I accept your concession :)

>>74528190
That's a stretch.

>>74527647
>Given how all signs point to Elira sabotaging Selen's merch colalbs, I doubt that's the case.
Don't get me wrong, Selen was obviously sabotaged and Elira was obviously a beneficiary of favoritism. But I would be very shocked if Elira had any say in merchandizing. Nijisanji have their own department to deal with this, there is no way for Elira to have had any contact with that, even if she was part-timing as a talent manager in some instances. You'd have to go to the extreme ends of the gurrat to make this possible.

>>74528281

You know you've won when Nijisisters have to resort to copying your exact message so it can be seen as spam, it's an old doxxsite tactic of theirs

>>74528190
You must be 18 to post on this site

>>74528007
There's a few reasons for that. Sayu is a certified Menhera, openly associates with drama whores, leaked a private conversation and most importantly, didn't have time to develop a working relationship with Matara like Matara did with Ethyria. (Even if that's a massive mistake for Matara.) I have a feeling Sayu associating with drama whores is the big reason why people avoid her. I mean her first reaction to Selen getting terminated was to go on a drama whore's live stream, that's just a terrible look any way you think of it.

>>74528346
>But I would be very shocked if Elira had any say in merchandizing.
All evidence says otherwise, just look at how much merch Elira got even over her own gen, including Pomu who was more popular. Or Selen not only getting fucked out of the Sanrio, but Elira taking Cinnamoroll, who is Selen's absolute favorite Sanrio's character, for herself. Also the whole sitution with HYTE where they had to make a PC case for Elria, but the moment Selen got terminated, HYTE cancels their deal with NijiEN and then creates a PC case for Doki.

>>74529019
>All evidence says otherwise
None of what you say proves Elira was responsible for the merchandise deals and decisions.
She could be, but that's nothing but a rrat with no legs since the more likely explanation is it came from higher up.

>>74529198
>None of what you say proves Elira was responsible for the merchandise deals and decisions.
Except it does, since there's no way she would get such an unnatural boost compared to everyone else and Selen would constantly get screwed over unless she had input. Especially with how the Sanrio collab played out
All your damage control in world won't kill this rrat.

>>74529019
>Elira taking Cinnamoroll
I'm the one who made that OP the other day. I messed up. Ike got cinnamoroll. Elira got someone else. Luxiem took her top 3, though. (Cinnamoroll, Kuromi, Pompompurin)

>I mean her first reaction to Selen getting terminated was to go on a drama whore's live stream, that's just a terrible look any way you think of it.
It's kind of a nuanced case. She actually only went on about a week or two after being hounded by people to make a statement, and likely the only reason she even was asked was because she was the only person they could reach due to being indie.
It's honestly a good thing she did, since it helped vindicate her to the public and bring her channel back to a natural growth. She's actually doing far better now than she even was during the "drama" period in terms of mental health and audience thanks to that.

Reminder that you're arguing with people who get outraged when an online personality makes fried rice on October or November because it's hurting the feelings of their people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egg_fried_rice_protests

>>74529019
I'm not disputing the image, I'm saying that the cause isn't Elira writing to the sponsors or withholding information. Rather someone above hating Selen (ergo why Selen got fucked) and having favoritism towards Elira (which is why Elira got the merch instead of anyone else, after Selen got fucked). Think of it as a teacher favoring their favorite student, rather than Elira having actual control.
The livers have spoken about their managers on several occasions, so we know they are there, they exist and they have the capacity to communicate with the talent (at least on an ESL level). Elira being favored by their superiors matches more with the accusations of mismanagement and is also inline with the image you posted.

>>74529467
They might be people who go into a murderous rage over bad karaoke.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Way_killings

>>74529444
>>74529515
I'm gonna have to agree with the anon defending Elira in this case. I don't think there's enough hard evidence to slam Elira as the cause for Selen's sponsorship nonsense. I do believe she took a leadership role in the branch, but I don't think she gives enough of a shit about loyalty or japanese corporate structure to have any real power beyond peer pressure and being the unofficial discord owner. Everything I've seen about the inside of that company paints more of a picture of japanese hierarchical pride rather than a vindictive high school bully withholding sponsorships. I think it was a vindictive manager or managers who did that, instead.

>>74529444
>All your damage control in world won't kill this rrat.
this is why I hate newfags using words they clearly don't understand
if you're curious, I'm not trying to kill a fucking rrat, idiot

>>74529740
I wouldn't say I'm defending Elira, I just think it's unlikely for her to hold power over merchandizing.

>>74529740
>>74529515
>>74529787
Nah, the fact that you had companies like HYTE clearly wanting to collab with Selen and it getting blocked forcing them to do a case for Elira and the whole Sanrio shitshow. All signs point to Elira meddling in merch deals. There's a difference between just being the favorite, and sheer maliciousness of what happened here.
Not to mention the sudden Elira damage control force appearing after she gets called it is extremely telling too.

Oh it's just a retard, nevermind.

>Sister seething that she's been exposed

the catalog fixating so hard on the sanrio stuff in particular is also a weird case of tunnel vision because even lazulight got kinda screwed out of their own faves despite being in the collab itself. elira and pomu's favorite sanrios are also both cinnamoroll, but that's ike's favorite too and he's in luxiem, so he got it instead. pomu even made tweets after the merch announcement about how much she loved cinnamoroll. maria, uki, and others also both tweeted about how much they love sanrio and want to be part of this collab one day. rosemi, millie, and several others are also known to be big sanrio fans. when it comes to them, no one cares, but when it comes to selen, it must have been elira's evil master plan to exclude her.
for other things like the HYTE collab, I can buy that a salty manager or JP bureaucrat had a hand in denying selen that opportunity. but rationally, I think the sanrio collab specifically was just a normal merch collab

Remember the pact

>>74530336
Considering Sanrio has had multiple rounds of collab merch with NijiJP, my guess is that the EN Sanrio collab came by way of JP management, who just picked the girl wave who'd sell best (Lazulight) and the guy wave who'd sell best (Luxiem).
HYTE, on the other hand, is a western sponsorship that probably went straight to EN management, who are known to play favorites, which would explain why a non-gamer like Enna got a PC case sponsorship over Selen.

>>74518064
Pomu betrayed both Selen AND Elira/nijiEN. Matara wasn't with the clique, but she still had clique mentality and was trying to pull the members to build her own, and has somewhat succeeded.

>>74530627
>Pomu betrayed both Selen AND Elira/nijiEN
Why would you think that?

>>74518259
Not even rpr seemed to be in the know, so she's definitely either saving it for her closest friends or fully taking it to the grave.

>>74530627
Saw this coming from a mile away the moment she joined vshojo honestly. No reason to join that company unless you're trying to be in with a certain crowd.

>>74515814
My theory is Selen's shrink told her to cut off all contact with everyone in Nijisanji and instead of thinking for herself, she just blindly followed the advice and ghosted Pomu.
Pomu even said in the days leading to her graduation that she wished she could do another Minecraft stream with Selen and she hopes she does well.

>>74530537
It's still pretty insane since if they simply had Pomu, Selen, and maybe Elira or Enna as a third, it would have ACTUALLY sold out instead of whatever pitiful sales it got from having two dead weight with pomu.

Yup, they are friends.
>B-b-b-but they are not talking
Just like when Fuwamoco hated Pomu? Cope.

>>74530777
If they're friends then why Doki didn't mention Pomu/Mint even once?

>>74530777
sisters were screaming how RPR and Selen hated each other after Doki came back because he had no public content... until the Helldivers collab.
Same thing with Doki and Filian, Doki and phase connect, doki and indies, doki and vshojo... Doki and japanese companies (she got invited to a japanese content creator tournament)...

>>74530926
Who cares? Fuwamoco ignored Pomu and it turned out that they knew each other and they were talking in private.

>>74524570
I don't think Matara has been gaslighting Mint into hating Doki.
But I do believe that Matara likely has at least less than good feeling twoards Doki since she's the linchpin in all her friends in NijiEN losing half their income, and that could have rubbed off on Mint.

>>74530926
>ESL

>>74531030
>>74531062
>no real answers
I accept your concession :)

>>74530926
Because Doki's focusing on Doki, and Mint is focusing on Mint. Them "pairing up" publicly would just cause the rrats and schizos to go nuts and cause a new wave of drama for no fucking reason, especially when Mint was seriously considering quitting. They're clearly not hostile, but they're also not forced to work together anymore, hence still using similar timeslots with no real worry about overlapping with anybody else. (However, Doki mysteriously took her day off on Mint's redebut)

>>74525912
She's already done her damage. Elira lost 2'/3 her viewers

>>74530961
The sisters really love the "guilty until proven innocent" point of view, don't they?
It's very in character but it's still fascinating to see them apply it to every different thing.
>They haven't collabed? They HATE each other and talk shit behind the scenes!
Or maybe it's projection because that's how they do things and treat relationships themselves?

>>74524915
Seeing that picture shattered my perception of Matara. How ugly she purposefully makes herself is crazy.

>>74515814
Selen liked Pomu a lot more than Pomu liked Selen. Pomu was much closer with the rest of Lazulight and Nina than she was with Selen.

>>74531053
If Matara does dislike Doki, I very much doubt it's because of money. Matara's own income has been largely unaffected because she's long since fucked off. It's weird that she would care so much over income that's not her own

>>74531161
Don't forget that Anycolor could try to sue Mint's ass if they thought she is trying to bad mouth them. I wouldn't be surprised if she talked with Doki and decided to lay low until everything calmed down.

>>74530926
She did but you ignored it because it doesn't fit your narrative

>>74531289
Ah, true. Selen and Zaion didn't sign the silencing agreement, but Pomu definitely did. She's probably avoiding it even if it's unenforceable.

>116 replies.
>Usual sister sperging and no actual argument.
>Mint openly joking "still shitting" and laughing at the Dokibento without any problem.
>Niji doing so badly all the Sister have left is tribalfagging to death.
Another day, another waste of space for the Nijisis to cope hard.
>Verification not required.

>Mint has mentioned Doki AND Selen
>Pomu ghosted Matara when she went to a party with Urethra
>Mint kept streaming during Elira's return stream
Sorry sisters

>>74531241
This. Don't forget that, when she was asked by Ironmouse who she's friends with in NijiEN, she said Elira Finana and Nina, not a single mention of Selen.

Is this the sisters' ultimate cope? Pretending that Pomu didn't like Selen?

>>74531769
Ultimate implies they'd stop after getting btfo. I wish

>>74515814
they both hate other

>>74531769
Yes, they are out of arguments so tribalfagging hoping some poor Wisp or Goon falls for it is. Obviously doesn't work when you go into Mint and Doki chat, or you see the clippers, and there are a lot of same names.
When your company is so shit you have to pretend falseflagging to get your daily dose of drama. The rope is badly needed in pagpagland.

>>74530715
>Listen to me, Jack. Just because soldiers are on the same side right now doesn't mean they always will be. Having personal feelings about your comrades is one the worst sins you can commit.

I don't care about the sisters bullshit, post some kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpAIgtdOBxk

>>74531986

>>74519226
She never was a brand risk just Elira clique bs so they could leech off others

>>74527201
Why does she hate him?

>>74532639
Nothing concrete, but there's tangential evidence that he was one of the people behind her doxxing, or at least the spread of it back when she was terminated. Also he specifically boosted and commented on tweets trashing her when she had her "rape joke" for clout. The man's a snake.

>>74515814
For the newfags here, one time a bunch of nijien members went to Japan, but Pomu wasn't able to join them (probably because of visa problems).
She was able to go right as everyone else was leaving, and made a spur of the moment decision to go to Japan alone, because she really wanted a break. Selen, right as she was setting foot back in Canada, immediately turned around and got her ass back on a plane to Japan just so she could go keep Pomu company.
So yeah, they were very good friends. It's unclear what the situation is now, and maybe they're still friends, but the complete lack of interaction is indeed suspicious.

>>74533324
Fuck's sake. I wasn't a goon during that period (I left around early 2022 due to reasons) but every time I learn a new selen fact it just makes me love her more

>>74531769
It's not that she didn't like Selen. But they weren't particularly close, and Selen liked her more than vice versa. This isn't some weird sister thing either, it discussed openly brought up in /HAHA/ before either of them were gone.

>>74531885
>tribalfagging hoping some poor Wisp or Goon falls for it is
At least they stay away from our general.

t. Wisp

>>74533324
The only newfag here is (You) because you're mixing like 5 completely separate events and make them look like they happened in a couple of weeks.
>one time a bunch of nijien members went to Japan, but Pomu wasn't able to join them (probably because of visa problems).
That was in early 2022
>She was able to go right as everyone else was leaving, and made a spur of the moment decision to go to Japan alone, because she really wanted a break.
No such thing happened, you're getting confused with her going to Antarctica in November 2023
>Selen, right as she was setting foot back in Canada, immediately turned around and got her ass back on a plane to Japan just so she could go keep Pomu company.
This happened back in October 2022 but it was a vacation for Pomu because in November she would spent a month working on 3D debuts with Elira and Finana.

>>74533639
I'm talking about the time she was in Japan with Selen, and later Rosemi, which started the WOO girls thing. The events you're talking about have nothing to do with it.

>>74533639
>Selen got back to Japan to stay with Pomu.
>This happened.
Nothing more, your honor.

>>74533794
>I'm talking about the time she was in Japan with Selen, and later Rosemi, which started the WOO girls thing.
That's the
>This happened back in October 2022 but it was a vacation for Pomu because in November she would spent a month working on 3D debuts with Elira and Finana.
part. Pomu went there because they opened the borders for tourists after spending 2 years and half without going. Then shecame back for a week and fucked off to Japan for a whole month.

>>74533618
That's because no one contradicted the falseflagging sisters that chased away Dragoons who were helping bake the threads the first couple of times. And don't even get me started on the delulu idiots who stayed in /lazu/

>>74533639
>That was in early 2022
No, it was mid-October 2022, after Japan re-opened its borders to allow tourist visas again. NijiFes was in early-October 2022, which Pomu (and many other NijiENs) was not able to go to because of visa approval issues, but Selen was able to go to.
>No such thing happened, you're getting confused with her going to Antarctica in November 2023
No, it really happened and led to the WOO Girls off-collabs on October 15th 2022. Selen got back from NijiFes in early October 2022 -> Japan opened borders to tourists again -> Pomu went to Japan -> Selen, who had only just gotten back home, flies to Japan as well.

>>74515814
https://youtu.be/BpAIgtdOBxk

Plus that whole grail episode, among others.

They were steadfast friends of the truest sort, but I suspect Doki's therapist has told her to stay as far away from her ex-coworkers as much as possible. Not sure why she made an exception for U-san though, save maybe that she wasn't tied up in the drama.

>>74534032
Crying about tribalfag sisters when you're tribalfagging yourself is funny. I bet you can't even tell you're doing it too.
It's no secret a lot of dragoons are on the younger side so I won't blame you for it but hopefully you can grow as a person too.

>>74534415
If facing reality instead of clinging to delusions that Mint is still somehow loyal to the Nijisanji brand and refusing to associate with the remaining fans of the cunt that spearheaded that abomination of a black stream, then let me be a tribalfag.

>>74534770
As long as you're aware you are what both Mint and Doki hate about vtubing culture, that's fine.

>>74534770
Yeah, even I wouldn't go that far. Mint's likely a fence sitter if anything. She probably had her "Am I the baddie? " moment in japan while wondering if she was part of the problem with Selen, either indirectly by supporting Elira, or just from not noticing how badly Selen was taking things at the time. She's likely weighing her extensive history with Nova against the idea that a newer friend nearly died.

>>74534032
>falseflagging sisters that chased away Dragoons
No one chased anyone away, we only asked not to openly demonstrate your allegiance because Mint's redebut was a hot topic attracting all kinds of attention and naming yourselves Dragoons or posting Doki art was like asking for a shitstorm. There is a reason we still have a ritualpost about "staying on topic and talk about Mint". Anyone who can respect that is welcome in our general

>>74534879
What the fuck are you talking about? I'm only recognizing that the black stream happened and that it was the biggest mistake Elira EVER made in her career.
>>74535048
I don't know anything about Mint's stance on what happened, I was outlining my own stance. I refuse to associate with Elira's fans. They live under the impression that the black stream never happened. I'm willing to give Elira herself every benefit of the doubt. It's very likely that the management forced her to do it, the leaked contract made that rather clear to me. If at any point in the future it becomes clear that Elira was forced into it, apologizes for it and Doki accepts her apology, I would be content.

They were friends. It's just that Selen liked Pomu more than Pomu liked Selen.

>>74534032
Fuck off. Dragoons were chased off for good reason. I don't go to /HAHA/ talking about Mint, but they had to insert Doki into our thread. Not only our thread but pester Mint while she's playing a game so she stumbles onto Doki in game. Mint and Doki will do things at their own pace, don't force shit and have agendas like that.

>>74515814
Yes, of course. I'm actually not sure why they haven't interacted yet now that they're both independent. It's kind of funny seeing Mint collab with some members of vshojo while Doki collabs with other members, no overlap, it seems. I hope it's only a matter of time before we get these guys fucking around on stream again.

>>74535532
>I'm only recognizing that the black stream happened
Not even close, everyone recognizes the stream happened, you're not special. You just decide you know everything about the culture of a general you don't go to, for a fanbase you're not a part of.
Crying and whining because you don't get exactly what you want is nothing but childish, which is why I said I hope you'll grow out of it and look at people as normal humans deserving of compassion, instead of inferior idiots that don't see the absolute truth that blessed your mighty self.

>>74535819
Because things obviously haven't cooled down enough.

>>74535775
If you're a mintfag and like the pace she does things you probably have brain damage. She's the most indecisive person on Earth and second-guesses herself constantly.

She can be friends with both, you don't have to turn it into a console war.

>>74535958
>which is why I said I hope you'll grow out of it and look at people as normal humans deserving of compassion
lmao

>>74535989
You're only showing why people like you were booted out.

>>74515814
No , they're family.

>>74530336
It's just cause it's a shot they took filling in the vacuum. A bin of nothingburgers ends up getting stitched into a thiccccc rope.

Offcollab Selen sexy voice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjNiFKV81vE > https://youtu.be/cjNiFKV81vE?t=757

>Sexy voice intros
>Let's start it from selen
>Selen says hi normally
>Tell her to do it sexily
>Doesn't want to
>They cycle through the rest of them while occasionally pressuring her
>Dogpile on her
>"I hate this"

>https://youtu.be/cjNiFKV81vE?t=2401 (Never have I ever)
>We need to target Selen
>Millie: Never have I ever had a Sanrio character (Selen was passed up for the Sanrio collab she desperately wanted)
>The others quickly damage control to "merch"
>Are we targeting?
>Target Selen!
>Elira: Never have I ever played ranked in any game

>>74535989
If you care so much about their interaction, you can go to your oshi and push her to reach out to Mint. We're too busy just not letting her abandon streaming altogether once again.

>>74535958
Elira will never recover so long as the black stream remains on her channel, no matter how many videos she makes from now on ignoring the elephant in the room. The best you can hope for your oshi, if you're pathetic enough to continue this farce, is for her to leave Anycolor and pursue an independent streaming career.

If you deny this, then I pray Elira stays with Anycolor forever, along with her black strream.

>>74535775
>Fuck off. Dragoons were chased off for good reason
They were merely helping bake threads while /mint/ was still in its infancy. We were brigaded by sisters like crazy in the early days, and we ended up siding with the sisters. Damnable shame
>Not only our thread but pester Mint while she's playing a game so she stumbles onto Doki in game
So certain you are that those were the Dragoons and not hungry dramavultures. Why? I know you'll call me out for no true scotsman fallacy, but Dragoons were already satisfied with this moment.
https://www.youtube.com/live/hfTgzbCblOU&t=4h56m

>>74528007
Matara's been burned a lot in the past. Sayu fucked her one chance so it's ogre. Which is the correct outcome really.

>>74535958
Compassion for what? Willingly carrying out a 15 minute HATE on your coworker? Yeah buddy, you keep on having compassion, you'll get what you deserve when they eat you alive.

>>74519062
>Quinn'd
Qrd? That's the wigger, right? I don't keep up with him.

Kinda funny that because of how much of an autistic menhera Doki/Selen is, her fans have to create fake friends for her and cope about it.

Doki barely has friends and there's a big fucking reason why, she records her interactions with friends, because she is a sociopath with BPD.

>>74536264
I don't care, I'm not a dragoon except casually, I just think this is a petty thing to get mad about (extremely mild begging that has mattered for like 1/10000th of stream content) and that saying "let Mint take things at her own pace" is an insane thing to say. As you point out she's literally only streaming at all because someone cajoled her into it.

>>74536474
Not him but Yeah. Quinn's kyo and doxxed Zaion.
>N-Nnyo!
You can watch him agitate and escalate with kenji. It's so hilarious, kyo was being a wigger fuck then got reamed in the golf collab so hard he never let it go let alone learned to not be such a disgusting wigger.

>Please feel bad for Elira :(
...Why should I? She is the one who chose to stay in Niji and keep streaming after everything that happened.

>>74536325
Elira is not my oshi and never was. Again, just showing the lack of knowledge of the fanbase to think I'm speaking as one. I just interact with fameliras.

>>74536472
I was talking about compassion for the fans, you moron.

>>74536617
They identify with Doki because they are that weird guy from work or that weird friend that they don't really invite when the group of friends hangs out.

>>74536757
You're still the fan of a monster that bullied a victim?

>>74536757
>I was talking about compassion for the fans, you moron.
Anon, that's even more retarded.

>>74536389
>They were merely helping bake threads while /mint/ was still in its infancy
It's just a thread on 4chan, anyone can make it. If it dies anyone can make another. It's not like it's a herculean task.

>>74536810
Sorry context eludes you.

>>74536211
What am I supposed to be looking at here?

>>74536875
I understand the context, I'm saying that it's retarded to feel compassion for people that are still supporting Elira. They made their bed, so they now have to le in it.

>>74536962
Bullying a shy girl then stabbing her in the ovaries

>>74536821
And a couple of specific times a Dragoon made a thread for us. That's just what happened.

>>74527125

>>74536781
Here’s a (You) for that obvious self response out of how seething you were by being ignored. See you next collab, or when you have an actual argument.

>>74515814
Guess not

>>74536211
and Elira protected her lol
It's not Millie's fault Selen has weird hangups about sex and only wants to fuck robots

>>74527201
>calling her a pedophile rapist with children
He literally never said that and he never apologized for calling her out. Sayu is a spiteful whore and that drama proved it

>>74537300
>It’s not her fault Millie is a whore but I need to word it so it sounds like I am sane in my head.

>>74537019
I know being on the right side of history justifies anything that happens, but there were 2 big types of raiders in lazu since Selen's termination, the sisters and dramafags. Both were awful and did the same fucking thing just in different ways for months.
None of (You) were welcome.

>>74537375
Uh…Nijisis, are you mentally retarded? They literally apologized to each other the moment Sayu showed lawyers. Pretty clear who was in the wrong, then again revisionism is the only way you maintain your hamster brain working.

>>74526788
Does this bitch really think trying to leech off Mint is going to help? LOL
>>74527021
Let me guess: It was revealed to you in a dream?

>>74537474
>Expect sister to stay in their place.
I feel sorry for you but you are delulu, this entire post is them ignoring Mint clearly being fine mentioning Doki 2 times jist so they can fap that someone who graduated from Niji wants still to be Niji. Your thread is doomed to sperg until endtimes.

>>74537567
>Completely made up fanfiction
I accept your concession

>>74537713
The sisters switched to raiding /mint/ after the split. Again, just showing you don't know anything.

>>74526788
>Elira is so desperate for attention she still leech off Pomu.
>Nijisis is so desperate that is a sign they are friends.
This level of cope is entertaining. But mint referencing shitting herself and laughing at the bento is a nothingburger right?
You are so pathetic it deserves the popcorn. Here’s a (you) for the laugh.

>>74537798
It’s in the twitters. Wow you really are in need of meds. Or are you this dssperate for (You)? Someone give tgis poor woman a tampon, she is in pure delulu.

>>74537663
>Let me guess: It was revealed to you in a dream?
Read the post and reply chain again illiteratechama.

>>74529740
Good job falling for the Elira bootlicker's nonsense

>>74537713
You mean her chat spammed her into mentioning Doki and she told them to stop berating her into trying to get her to acknowledge Doki?

>>74537474
I was a pomudachi who posted in /lazu/ until the split happened, I'm well aware of the raids. That doesn't mean that Elira's fans aren't retards.

>>74538015
So when did Sayu get a lawyer and when did Kenji apologize for making the video, calling her a pedophile and shitting on for being a rape sympathizer?

>>74538017
Someone has to do it in this conversation, all proof tou showed us is leechlira, ignoring all the counterproof. Clearly you are delulu, Nijisis lost the last neuron they had over the doxxsite closing and now they are completely done with reality.
My bet is they are gonna start dying in front of the screen seething. Darwin strikes again.

>>74538152
How many buzzwords are in this post?

>>74531141
Accepting your own delusion only makes you a retard

>>74538128
>Says to he rto check twitter.
>Schizo post here for the third time.
I accept the proof you are undarage and can’t get an account, it has to be that at this point.

>>74538071
Ok? I don't even know why I bother with people who clearly don't even follow the thread but I guess I'm just that bored. Good luck with whatever it is you got.

>>74538058
While laughing her ass off and after she did the shitting joke before? Yes.
She estabilished they are still friends and are each doing their thing. I’m not the one posting a daily tribalfag with no proof on the board, Nijisis. Still waiting your proof they hate wach other.

>>74538242
So you have no proof which is why you're telling me to prove it for you. Understood, you're a retard

First of all, not a sister. Vox can go suck his dick, Elira can go fade into obscurity, investors can go and do whatever they want with Riku's ass, all others can become 2views with the 2% of one blue supa/week income, etc.

BUT here's a rrat:
What if Selen cut off all contact with all the Nijis and Ex-Nijis just out of spite because nobody from there supported her properly when she needed help and she WANTS them all to stay on the potential Bully List and be targeted by the internet?

>>74538152
What language is this?

>>74538211
>buzzwords
Proof you are a twitterfag. The board doesn’t have a TL to pop in moron.

sadly yes. Pomu had weird taste and found ugly creatures cute, must've taken pity on chubbylen when she isolated herself

>>74538378
Underage confirmed. Can’t even open a ficking teitter page.
You can also check the warosu.

>>74536757
Suuuuuure.
Whatever you say, Elirafag.

>>74538392
>Doki wants them to be on the bully list.
Projecting it’s her fault Niji is fucked again? Least convincing Nijisis ever, go fuck yourself. She just wants to met new people loke she said, this post is a proof-de ying nothingburger and falseflagging is not proving shit.

>>74538511
So where did she bring in lawyers and when was Kenji the one apologizing for everything and not her?

>>74538392
Out of spite, no.
On suggestion from a therapist possibly.
She's gone very out of her way to try to keep everything as quiet as possible. Everything she's said on the situation with Nijisanji and everyone it was in retaliation to what they did to her/said about her.
Selen could have easily buried Nijisanji and co. if she wanted, but she didn't.

>>74537798
You are not only blind, but mentally ill too. Go get a therapist ASAP, bitch.

>>74538762
No one talked about her attempting suicide and no one said that they harassed her. She did so it's her fault, it's really that simple

>>74533639
https://youtu.be/TkhIJ8vOG1U?si=5ugWNAb7B6sUe9Ub

>>74538152
>leechlira
lol that's a good one. i'm so going to call her that from now on

>>74538920
Weird. It's like she said that stuff in retaliation to what Nijisanji has said.

>>74538797
She’s clearly too underage to have a twitter, but her parents couldn’t care if she dies tomorrow so they let her go on the board. They are probably cheering on us to get her the rope. Apologies, she’s too stupid mama-chan.

>>74539054
How is accusing people of harassment and blaming them for your suicide attempt a defense?

>>74538920
>t. Revisionist who is trying to convince himself the black video and the termination page 2&3 never happened.
All that grey matter you burned to this effort could have used to find better oshi Nijisis, I am so sorry for the rotten body that brain had to get.

>>74539058
Still here. Where are the screenshots? Do you not have any? You seem pretty obsessed with little girls, maybe you're a pedophile like Sayu which is why you defend her so much

>>74539144
To show the severity of her situation.
Are you actually autistic? I don't want to waste my time.

>>74518064
Nice falseflag sister

>>74539242
Still waiting for you to get 18 faggot. Then you can open a twitter account and join some SJW movement like you wish so badly.

>>74538211
>>74538403
More than the number of your brain cells

>>74539273
That's not a related to what they said at all. She just accused them and said they're responsible for her suicide attempt. She didn't even mention the termination notice. That's not a defense

>>74539144
More like confirming what they said and pointing out what they caused, but you are too retarded to accept the truth.
All this people who could have spent their existance better, but no, Nijisis. Worse than death.

>>74538451
How strange. Your now dead website, may it rest in piss, was known for hosting doxxes, but oddly enough none of you sisters have ever seen Selen's face...

>>74539242
You have to be 18 or older to post on 4chan

>>74539424
rent free kekaroo
if it was MY website I'd have those pics of your oshi getting blacked front page

>>74539392
>Answer in response to the termination.
>Answers in repsonse to the black video.
>MY REALITY IS X, I AM RIGHT.
How the fuck ghet much cope has not killed you in delulu already is the only thing I’m amazed here.

>>74539424
Yeah, everyone has. She's fat and Asian.

>>74539392
We can agree to disagree.

>>74539507
You outed yourself with "chubbylen". If you haven't said that, you might have successfully obfuscated that you're a sister.

I'mma be honest this thread is extremely dumb, wtf are you guys doing?

>>74539507
>>74539528
Your mental illness is showing, bitch.

>>74515814
>Were they ever really friends?
Maybe, maybe not.
Probably.
Being friends might explain why they were one of only two groups of different-wave talents to get a set of themed outfits. Doubly so since Selen herself commissioned an official game based on those outfits (which by the way is still available for download)
https://selentatsuki.itch.io/tatsuki-manor-mystery

But if the question you're trying to figleaf-ask is "were they enemies?" then the answer is no.
Hell no. Shit no.
There was never even the slightest hint of animosity between them, even if you include the mutual roasting that friends usually do.

>>74515814
Selen was never friends with anyone. She only uses everyone in Niji as tools for her own goals without any regard for anyone but herself. She didn't care about Niji as a company, as a place of work, or as a community. She didn't give a single about her fanbase. She only cares about how many there were to make more money for herself via sponsorships.

Everything up through now has all been an illusion. Wake up!

>>74539655
she's not fucking you gachicuck

>>74539653
Threads made by nijisisters are always dumb.

>233 replies
>Still more proof they are friends and 0 proof they hate each other
>Leechlira is born
>Talk is now another revisionism attempt of Nijisis mentally stuck in Febraury because moving forward would be accepting they lost that argument for goof
>Thread is now Sayu being attacked despite 100% off topic
Once again, 1 more day of Nijifaggotry completed. Same shit tomorrow as usual.

>>74539745
What? Can't hear you over all that delusional screeching.

>>74539424
>but oddly enough none of you sisters have ever seen Selen's face
not sure if february newfag or vacation baiting

>>74539745
>thinking Selen had unicorns or that Doki has unicorns now
At least pretend you know what you're talking about. Not even worthy of a chuckle.

>>74539691
>Proof next thread or when my dreams become reality.
How the heck you hav enot accidentally killed yourself with all that brainrot? Repeating something 100 times doesn’t make it true, it only makes us laugh harder clown.

>>74539745
>Doki, notorious Malecollab, has unicorns.
The faggotry has reached level of desperation that even the trolls are crying over your stupidity.

>>74539646
you're right, should've called her SOIEEE SOIEE PIGGY PIGGY SOIEEEEE

>>74539883
Neither. I have seen her face. And i also know that she regularly goes hiking and runs on the threadmill daily. I just don't get where the "fat" comes from. And for that matter, why do they take "BPD" as gospel. That could easily have been just a random Twatter retardation

>>74539912
nice revisionism bro but I've seen how you /haha/ guys are

>>74540144
>thinking goslings is the same as unicorns
Imagine being this new

>>74540074
Kek, she has more fat in her cheeks than a slab of beef

>>74540223
read >>74539745 again retard where does it say unicorn
or are you so new you don't know what gachi means here
dokiknights defense level so high, just mind devasted by paki women you love to see it

ewwwww Shu's inbreathing laugh

why do people watch him? Serious question. His voice is so garbo.
Doesn't he also treat his fans like complete crap and spam valorant streams? Why are you watching this fucker?

>>74540606
Uh, fuck Shu but have you clicked the weong bread Anon?

>>74540381
>cuckbaiting
>i-it's totally not about unicorns, I swear!
Selen/Doki's gachikoi never cared.

>>74536019
Technically true
But I highly doubt Selen would be all that keen on one of her friends still being friends with the woman who, at best, actively slandered her, and at worst was part of the group who bullied her to the point of suicide
And on the other hand, I doubt Elira would want her friend to still be friends with the woman who (through no real fault of her own) caused the rapid decline of Nijisanji reputation, as well as that of her own and other close friends

Pomu, Elira and Selen were never good friends like they pretend on stream and at the end Elira was shittalking both of them, Selen and Pomu don't associate with nijinigs or with each other. Their time in niji probably soured them on the idea and they have their own cliques.

clique clique clique clique clique clique clique clique clique clique clique clique clique clique clique clique clique clique clique clique clique clique clique clique clique

>>74515814
>women
>friends

>>74538023
Didn't fall for shit. I wholeheartedly believe that it's possible Elira bullied Selen. She might have even been the one behind the black screen video, and she's likely to be the "leader" of the branch, but I don't believe a single organ has the kind of clout in the company to do anything like prevent sponsorship deals on her own, nor has she shown the same kind of issues that Selen has complained about with actual management before.

>>74538392
Out of spite, not a chance. She's never shown that kind of vindictive behavior no matter how far back you go in her history. Even now, she's basically tossing lifesavers at them every few weeks and STILL getting it twisted on her. However, it's entirely possible for her to cut off all contact as part of a plan she's worked out with her therapist.

>>74538596
What? They apologized in private. That's the whole point. They mutually agreed to end hostilities, and Sayu was satisfied enough with it to agree. Afterwards they had a discord call and gained some more respect for each other, too. Sayu talked all about it in her stream yesterday. I don't give a shit if Kenji apologizes to me. He just needs to apologize to Sayu and there needs to be action to prevent something like that in the future (IE ending hostilities, removing problematic videos, etc.)

>>74515814
No they're nijifamily kekw

>>74546404
>and at the end Elira was shittalking both of them
Proof of her shittalking Pomu?

>>74549480
Explain how Eiira got so many merch deals then?

>>74549480
Then explain why it’s blatantly clear i. A corpo where everyone seems to be vexated by management she gets merch drop after merch drop despite not selling enough to make Q3 good.

>>74552762
Watch streams.

>>74540144
We want to fuck Selen and Dokibird (the characters). We want to be bros with Selen and Dokibird (the streamers). We know the difference between them.

>>74553427
No proof then. I accept your concession. Meanwhile this very thread has proof of Elira speaking positively about Pomu.

>>74546222
Honestly I think she wouldn't give a shit. Hell, I'm not even sure if she understands if she WAS bullied by the other members. After all, her schizo ramblings in a journal spooked the fuck out of Niji so badly they started this whole thing.
>>74552827
>>74552982
Probably nepotism and having a unique role in being able to contact Japan more directly. I believe the merch issues and Selen's bullying/harassment are two separate problems and only tangentially related due to Elira's leadership position at best. I can get behind Elira swiping as many merch deals for herself by not needing a translator, but I can also get behind a japanese businessman who's so fucking committed to pushing Elira out that he keeps throwing her to the wolves to avoid feeling like he "wasted" going all in on her in the first place.

>>74546404
>Elira shitalked everyone because I had the benefits of the doubt okkkkk
What's this insane take? The drama was over a long time ago. Let my Elira live in peace you insane dramafag.

>>74515814
Why do they need to be friends?

Not everyone in a corpo are friends. Mostly coworkers. Not everyone talks to each other in hololive, or vshoujo. Hell the vshoujo bitches went months without talking to each other.

>>74546404
Do you have mental illness, or did you learn that the only way you can get attention is by being a retard?

>>74515814
pomu friend with elira clique not selen

>>74536389
Can confirm. As soon as I heard that, I was immediately done with it and figured whatever happens, happens. I'm fine if they never talk again, and I'm fine if they become best buds and form a new channel together. I'm just satisfied with the idea that they don't hate each other and she was likely not involved in any of Selen's harassment.
>>74554624
They don't. It's fine if they are, it's fine if they aren't, but as far as I'm concerned, that company and anything related to it are dead to me. If Doki and Mint decide to reach out to each other as Doki and Mint, I'll support it, but I'm not gonna cling to the fumes off Niji's bloated corpse and pretend it's gonna be just like before.

>>74538927
That's kinda sweet. I didn't realize Selen did this back then. I'm not surprised tho, she does have a habit of spending serious money to make some great memories.

>>74557315
Same here. The only thing I was worried about was that they are on bad terms, but that's obviously not the case. If they want to collab in their new/old lives they will.

>>74554205
>Let my Elira live in peace
NO

>>74515814
They were never friends, or at least it was one sided

>>74536325
that bitch knew she have no future outside of niji now,its all depend how their connection with mata to create the clique in vshojo so she can jump to vshojo otherwise she will stay with niji

>>74549039
That's right, they're lovers instead.

>>74559650
Reminds me of Pomu laughing about all the ricegnat pics she couldn't like on Twitter when he drew a sfw one that she used for her and Selens geoguessr collab..

The one thing I keep noticing in threads like this is that there seems to be a dedicated effort by some anons to try and do mental gymnastics to accuse Matara of crimes and sins she never commited.

>>74560033
She's the embodiment of everything /vt/ and the sisters hate. Extroverted older woman with left-wing opinions that wasn't afraid to get antagonistic with her colleagues on stream (even if she was sweet and kind to them off stream).
There's nobody to defend her when some schizo or retard comes up with some stupid rrat, so it's just taken as fact or ignored because nobody cares. It's a handy scapegoat.