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74509540 No.74509540 [Reply] [Original]

Do they think that people will not have a problem with them if they just admit they are a shitty company from the get-go?

>> No.74509642

That guy on twitter truly thinks he is the next vtuber CEO billionaire in the making

>> No.74509686

>>74509642
based schizo CEO

>> No.74509718

>>74509540
It's a dog-eat-dog world out there

>> No.74509903

I remember fair competition in reality shows. The favourite absolutely fucks up and should be on thr chopping block but they never go through with it 'cause of your potential' while the others get shafted till the judges favourite is in the finals with the real hard workers which they don't quite like. Guess who wins the entire thing? We are in for a shit show for sure at this rate. They couldn't manage a company properly and pass themselves off as the leading authority. Reminds me of Nijisanji bragging despite it all having to do with capatalising on the covid opportunity buff.

>> No.74510419

>>74509540
Didn't the CEO say he's a fan of school rumble battles? Maybe this is his version of a fantasy death match, everyone clawing at each other for resources.

>> No.74510688

>>74510419
Yeah reality is not like anime or tv shows in this regard, it's much uglier.
Unless he plans on making some reality TV drama show but for vtubers and we are not in on it yet.

>> No.74510702

This reads like one of those psychos on linkedin who think they are business geniuses because they follow a bunch of "rules" made up by other linkedin schizos

>> No.74510735

>>74509540
Holy shit, that guy should promote it like hunger games:Vchuuba edition. No friends, only temporary alliance and full clique

>> No.74511084

What a brilliant idea!
The Grade A students were always so beloved after all. Nobody bullied the kid that the teacher glazed in front of the class by saying shit like "Why was the exam so bad? Look at <Grade A Student>, they didn't fail!" after all.
Competition is never fair. Giving more to those who already succeed is how you create corruption and the very same shit that plagues Nijisanji - cliques of people who get the most while everyone else has to lay low.

>> No.74511167

>>74509540
Fucking Nijisanji on steroids.

>> No.74511279

>>74509540
this industry finally produced the Reverse Yagoo

>> No.74511320

>>74509540
>yeah we have favorites, fuck off
dare i say, based?

>> No.74511364

Great Value Nijisanji EN

>> No.74511561
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>>74511279

>> No.74511634
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i can already see the drama ...

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What in the hell is this?

>> No.74511885

>>74511758
Company totally looks trustworthy...

>> No.74512090

>>74511758
This company is a straight up scam. You know the talents waiting to debut are already kicking themselves.

>> No.74512114

>>74511634
Die

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>>74512114
you first

>> No.74513607

>>74509540
This whole fucking thing reeks of silicon valley grift. I wonder how many fucking investors these charlatans have fleeced.

>> No.74514557

>>74509540
>trust me bro we ain't a bad company
ya... I'm not sure about that

>> No.74514874

>>74509540
god please let NEXAS happen
socks agency can't be a hero unless there's a villain

>> No.74515559

>>74509540
>a corpo that spams a shitton of debuts, then gives preferential treatment and support only to the top performers
Thanks but we already have one of those

>> No.74515673

>>74509540
this sounds kinda hilarious, it's meritocracy, which is being destroyed in the West and still somewhat exists in the East

>> No.74518438

>>74509540
Hilarious. Let's see how well that goes for him, Chuck!

>> No.74518492

>>74509718
Fuwamoco 69 let's GOOOOOO

>> No.74521041

>>74509540
There is literally nothing wrong with this. Don't like it, don't join it.

>> No.74521058

>>74509540
yes

>> No.74521143

>>74511758
Looks like an april fool's joke someone is taking too seriously. Imagine the kind of """""talent""""" that would look at this and go "yep, I want to work for this guy, this is gonna be a sure thing."

>> No.74521225

>>74511279
>>74511561
Oogay

>> No.74521743

>>74509540
Isn't that exactly how idol agencies operate? I thought /vt/ liked idol culture?

>> No.74521898

>>74521743
>implying /vt/ knows a thing about idol culture
Don't let constantly seething unicorns fool you

>> No.74521984

>>74509540
He's doing what Tazumi should have done.
Going all in right from the start and then cashing out immediately.

>> No.74522604

>>74521143
Lots of algo victims at their wit's end.

>> No.74522870

>>74509903
>Nijisanji taking advantage of covid to gain popularity.
so does Hololive, retard.

>> No.74522953

>>74509718
We're not all Asians and eat dogs so stfu

>> No.74523997

>>74522953
Exactly! Some of us are from Switzerland and eat dogs!

>> No.74524323

>>74521743
maybe in fucking korea

>> No.74525731

>>74522870
And yet only one isn't burning viewers fucktard

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>>74511758
holy shit hustle culture is cancerous, I give it a month before they start pushing their own shitcoin too

>> No.74526325

>>74525731
Nijisanji still has higher views gain and watch hours than VSPO, VShojo and Neo-Porte, you going to say that they failed too ? Hololive is successful for now, because fagoo has not let the skeletons out of his closet yet. idiots like you will think cover production is a saint and can do no wrong, yet they are still a jp corpo who takes advantage on mentally ill fans to extort money from these poor souls, remember the rushia and lamy engagement rings merch ?

>> No.74526877

>>74526325
Nice goalpost shift cum guzzler

>> No.74527305

>>74526325
The average ccv for nijisanji is not much better than VSPO or vshojo, they win in bulk because they have more vtubers than any other company. Not to mention that their views are declining YoY, while VSPO is making gains.
And to be fair, the only reason neo porte even rates overall, is the stupid numbers Hal gets for Vsaikyo. Though that's an excellent feather in any agency's cap. A vtuber with:
>Ambitions to run industry wide, cross-company tournaments
>connections to professional scenes
>connections with esports developers
is an easy headliner. You'd have to be stupid or incompetent not to do everything you could to keep that vtuber around and facilitate those tournaments. I can't imagine what kind of shitshow company would impede such vtuber, instead of capitalizing on the opportunity.

>> No.74527900

>>74527305
shibuya hal is not a troublemaker for vspo like selen was for nijisanji, you seriously comparing her to hal now ? nijisanji already has kuzuha and kanae that can do that stuff already, selen only organises tournaments for herself and her groupies.
>>74526877
the views might not be as much as it was back in 2023, but it is still in the green net. nijisanji is not dying anytime soon retard, as much as you would like that to happen

>> No.74528855 [DELETED] 

CARVE INA CARVE

>> No.74528903

>>74527900
True, they aren't comparable. Who'd give Hal trouble in his own company?
As for the other two, there's not a void in JP for vtuber specific, industry-wide events like this, the same way there is in EN.
Then, I'm not sure what you mean by "her groupies", her events were initially open to all Nijisanji, then management restricted that to only NijiEN out of the blue, so she kept running events for anyone in NijiEn who wanted to participate, and everyone participated in wrestlesanji, remember. Then for the only cross-company tournament, the only reason it seems anything moved forward, was the boys getting cover involved.
As for "troublemaking", I'd have to assume that NijiEN management (and I actually do mean the high schoolers in ill-fitting suits and the 'jeets/cryptomonkeys/grifters running the show) was competent or capable or at a minimum, not malicious, and the friction was undeserved. There's too much evidence to the contrary, ignoring everything said by Doki or revealed in the terminations. Heck, I don't even have to believe other departed livers. Do you remember april of last year, and "covid"?

>> No.74528987

>>74509540
>those who neglect their studies and attendance might not graduate
So the secret to keeping your job with these guys is to be lazy

>> No.74529389

Hey they are ripping off nijisanji

>> No.74529737

>>74522870
>hololive is only successful because of covid
Ahh been a while since I've seen this cope

>> No.74529922

>>74528903
i mean people like to shit on nijisanji, but all of three livers that was terminated was rotten mentality wise. Gundou, Zaion and Selen arent exactly the easiest of minds to manage, they are all time ticking pipebombs waiting to explode on nijisanji's face if they screwed it up with the process of getting rid of them. gundou was making sick jokes about encouraging baseball pitchers to throw the ball at the batters, zaion was being a rapist apologizer by blaming the main character's best friend in the karaoke chilla's art horror game for having a sexy body and she also was caught liking anti nijisanji comments while still a contracted liver in the company, selen was a good talent, but way too ambitious for nijisanji to handle. her projects costed thousands to produce and she wasnt very profitable for nijisanji to keep up with her clashing with management over game permissions every two to three weeks. selen broke the camel's back by encouraging her fans to REUPLOAD a MV that wasnt granted permission yet by the management team, she got suspended but nijisanji still wants her to continue as a liver but she wants to get out in a silent graduation without ever doing a stream anymore for nijisanji, she is still legally a niji liver at that time and it was considered a breach of contract agreement for a liver to ask for an immediate graduation after suspension if a liver's contract is still tied for a year.

>> No.74530190

>please understand
Kek, guaranteed to be a disaster
It’s the Chinese equivalent of Indians putting “kindly” in scam messages

>> No.74530450

>>74529922
>gundou was making sick jokes about encouraging baseball pitchers to throw the ball at the batters
Now all of China knows you're an EOP.

>> No.74530578

>>74521143
Wactor somehow still managed to find new members when they were already known to be twice as black as Niji is now
some people are just that naive and/or desperate

>> No.74530629

>>74509540
I'd laugh if they invest a ton of money producing a superstar talent who immediately gets poached by Hololive, VShojo, Phase, or some other company.

>> No.74530863

>>74529922
Is the doxxsite still down brownsister?

>> No.74531097

>>74529922
Holy revisionism batman, how much fucking drugs are you on to even beleive one word of this nonsense?
How the fuck you manage to make Nijisanji look still the worse in a thread about someone debuting 27 talent in a battle royale? You are amazingly stupid sister, take a rope.

>> No.74531255

This shit is going to be dead in a month

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>>74531097
do you really think any big jp corpo going to let any of their vtuber workers tweeting out stuff like this without firing them ? and nexas is fucked anyway if they dont let their talents stream on youtube or twitch, that anilive app is only for iphone users.

>> No.74531852

>>74509540
>more diligent students often receive more attention and support from teachers
This should not be the case for a serious and self-respecting education institute by the way. And I work as a teacher in one.
What he is trying to describe is closer to whores under a pimp. The ones who rakes in more cash gets better treatment.

>> No.74531892

>>74527305
Honestly Niji is an incredible fucking gem
>Debut a gen
>Their manager is a new hire
>A 2 week old new hire
>Doesn't know his dick from his ass
>XSolei burns to the ground
>Each gen after burns to the ground
>Iluna was already on fire before it even began
>Death march begins

>>74529922
Get Negligible'd! Get Negligible'd! Get Negligible'd!

>>74531727
That's totally fine and a common question for people who don't know anything about stickball. It was blown up just to be obnoxious bugs over nothing.

>> No.74532000

>>74531727
...Yes? It's ignorance over baseball, when it has become a cardinal sin. You are really out of brains and arguments.

>> No.74532325

>>74532000
>he really doesn't know
https://youtu.be/MVZnuPzf0_4

>> No.74532599

>>74531892
>>74532000
sure, if she was EN, ID, KR, or IN. but gundou was a japanese vtuber liver, how the fuck can a japanese person be oblivious to baseball rules out of all sports, its their national sport for god's sakes. im not even a japanese person and i know about the importance of the koshien in japanese's sports history. gundou was legit being malicious here, she is a crazy woman who has made a respectable impact as a nijisanji jp liver but was too much of a burden to keep around. a bigger drama was bound to happen for the main branch if gundou wasn't terminated.

>> No.74532609

>>74530629
>poach
>phase connect
Why are phasecucks like this? If a new company so much as breathes they immediately scream "POACH! POACH!" "FISHMAN" "POACH" you retards wonder why you get shat on all the time. You are incredibly easy to spot, you might as well join the sister on their doxxsite because of how annoying and out of place you fags are

>> No.74533279

>>74529922
None of these three things are even comparable. I'll address them one at a time and spare the perjoratives.
>Gundou
asked why pitchers shouldn't throw the ball at a batter. From a rules perspective, if you know nothing about baseball, if someone is a great batter, why wouldn't you walk them. I can't tell you why but this pissed off boomer japanese baseball fans, so she was fired to preserve a large sponsor. Can't really see what about this is a "rotten mentality"? Unless I'm missing something in the japanese phrasing, so maybe she was asking about it violently (in english we'd use drill, peg... etc. a full speed pitch)... in which case, western fans would say the simple thing: while in hockey, you may have an enforcer. In baseball, they get to pitch to (or in this case at) your batters too.
>Zaion
This has been talked about to death, so I'm not going to go over everything. Bottom line: her sense of humor is stuck in mid 00s internet, so she's not corpo friendly enough for anything that isn't fishman's sad girl society
>Selen
I'll address this in several parts
>she got suspended but nijisanji still wants her to continue as a liver but she wants to get out in a silent graduation without ever doing a stream anymore for nijisanji, she is still legally a niji liver at that time and it was considered a breach of contract agreement for a liver to ask for an immediate graduation after suspension if a liver's contract is still tied for a year.
This is illegal in every western country I'm aware of. She has a legal right to hire a lawyer and negotiate her contract at any time. Further, hiring a lawyer to negotiate a contract when unforeseen circumstances lead you to be unable to deliver the expectations of said contract is just how its done, down to and including asking for an early dissolution of the contract under reduced or no penalty, depending on the circumstances. Please don't talk about contract and labor law when you don't know what you're talking about. You are literally saying that Nijisanji did something illegal here.
>selen broke the camel's back by encouraging her fans to REUPLOAD a MV that wasnt granted permission yet by the management team
Yes, she did something stupid and hasty before doing something else stupid and hasty. Only the lunatics think there was an issue with the suspension in the first place
Now
>selen was a good talent, but way too ambitious for nijisanji to handle. her projects costed thousands to produce and she wasnt very profitable for nijisanji to keep up with her clashing with management over game permissions every two to three weeks.
I agree with a good deal of this, but she definitely had to clash with management over more than game permissions. Like, when they nearly scuttled her outfit contest, by fighting her over the prize pool (which was always going to be her own money) or sending out predatory contracts to participating artists.
Thing is, the cheaper products, her tournaments, which couldn't have required more than a few hundred, were the ones NijiEN was least equipped to deal with, hence the eventual requirement that she could only invite NijiEN's, and her eventually stopping running them at all, at least until cover got involved with the tsb custom.

>> No.74533386

>>74511758
Wow, that's some serious red flags over there.

>> No.74533554

>>74532599
You can easily not give a shit about stickball stop being an incel.

>> No.74535420

>>74529922
Kek nijiseethe historical revisionism is something else.

>> No.74536525

>>74513607
They used the reputation of hololive to actually imply they have a chance at the vtubing scene while doing nijisanji tactics. Yeah no that's gonna end badly similar to numerous corpos that came before them.

>> No.74538148

>>74509540
>support only high ambition/engagement
vtubers aren't the most stable people so dumping them into an environment where only "top" performers get rewarded and everyone else gets shafted sounds like a recipe for culling 2/3 of the group within a few months when "underachievers" realize they can't climb up and get sad/depressed causing them to underperform even more and get even less support....

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