/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Here before Simon appears

>None of you actually care about le kayfabe, personality, or anything like that.
I care :)

come on simon post heavenly audio again and pretend you are not a schizo.

>second zen bait thread in a row
>uses the same exact OP image as before
anon if zen pissed in your cereal its ok you don't have to be so mad

>>74450900
not OP or whoever the fuck this simon character is but how the hell do people find this abomination attractive? same goes for roach lady, the tits are just way too fucking big and bouncy. The fact that its a dude piloting that model only adds insult to injury. Im surprised twitchtrannies dont flip their bits over a man not only using a model that objectifies women but also profiting significantly off it

>>74450571
As long as he doesn't speak I'm okay with Zen

>>74451249
skill issue

>>74451249
>tits are way too fucking big and bouncy
gayest post of the week

>>74451249
>the tits are just way too fucking big and bouncy.
https://vocaroo.com/1nS0YEPIIP4v

>>74451249
>Im surprised twitchtrannies dont flip their bits over a man not only using a model that objectifies women but also profiting significantly off it
You're thinking of twitter. Twitch still enjoys objectifying women.

>>74450571
Of course it's not any different. The bullshit about liking/watching vtubers because of their talents and whatnot is exactly that, bullshit. It's especially cope from anyone on 4chan. Like majority here are forever-alone, porn addicted, chronic-masturbating losers. You know damn well no-one here is watching grown women pretend to be Japanese cartoons because of their talents and personalities. They're watching them to jerk off to fantasies of being with them. Just like how you said people do to others like Pokimane.

I don't mind Zen, but the delay in voice can be awkward in collabs where she talks over people. Why not use a voice changer instead?

>>74451347
>t. Anon who finds a man skinwalking a barbie doll model of a woman attractive

>>74450571
I will keep saying he is a man because that makes you seethe immensely.

>>74451249
Hating Zen hiding that he is a dude is fine. Not finding Zen's models hot? Now you're just gay dude.

>>74450571
of course it's not any different kek, you had anons unironically advocating last thread for the doxxing of their oshi's so that they could confirm that they weren't doing anything 'whorish' outside of streaming, they are literally that retarded

>>74451386
I know twitter would but when I think of twitch, I think of speedrunning and/or Games Done Quick, aka trannyfest, aka SJW haven. Maybe they’re just way too fucking horny to actually do anything about it, no clue

>>74451466
>Why not use a voice changer instead?
Probably because of fears that the voice changer program might crash. Zen has stated that the speech to text to speech thing she/he uses involves multiple programs interacting with each other, so any crash wouldn't result in the real voice getting broadcasted.

>>74451571
>Maybe they’re just way too fucking horny to actually do anything about it, no clue
Twitch is unironically ran by simps so yes they’re just too horny to care

>>74451582
Would the program crash result in the audio output to automatically change to her mic? I don't buy it.

>>74451466
a voice changer won't remove your stutter, STTS can do it to a limited extent.

Why do vshojo fans hate all other vtuber fans? They talk just like the typical japanese vtuber anti.

>>74451746
I blame Veibae fans.

>>74451746
why anon is such a faggot? We will never know.

>>74450571
idk who this is but after reading what others are saying I now believe this is a tranny faggot hiding behind tts.

>>74450571
nice paragraph
still not watching this tranny

>>74451582
A voice changer that creates a separate virtual input would be no different from what he's doing right now in terms of risk.

>>74451746
i blame nijisisters, their doxsite is down and all they can do is shitpost on a mongolian forum

>>74451737
>stutter
Is this you speculating or was it confirmed by Zen.
Makes sense then why they would use TTS, tho I feel like people would find that charming in of itself.

>>74451815
Just skip to the part where everyone is Simon to you so you can leave the thread thinking you won le internerz today.

>>74451746
>make seething bait thread because the tts robot made you mad
>they laugh at you
>WHY ARE VSHITOUJOUOUOU FANS SOU TOUXIC?

>>74451746
>Why do vshojo fans hate all other vtuber fans? They talk just like the typical japanese vtuber anti.
I don't. I like several indies and holos too.

>>74450571
>dude or not
not a hater, but you can notice that most of her model design is definitely designed by troons/gay people

>>74451891
its been confirmed for a while with some interesting results

>>74451440
>>74451561
But how and why do people here come up with tons of mental-gymnastics stating that what they're doing is not the same at all? Why do they say they aren't simps/losers when they engage in the same behavior?

>>74451959
A stuttering vtuber would be quite a novel thing. Maybe they are too self-conscious about it.

>>74451892
who the fuck even mentioned simon? Are you crazy anon?

>>74451962
because they're mentally ill? sure they may cover it up with saying how they're an idol or GFE or whatever but it still is the same thing even though it's just an anime woman on screen that you're gifting money to because you want them

>VShoujo
>Shoujo
>Founding member is a babiniku using a tts voice
Be honest. He would be a 2 view if he didn't get into the western vtubing game early enough to get associated with pink cat and company

>>74451249
You’re gay as fuck

>>74450571
why do vshojo cucks have meltdowns when you don't want to watch some retard play with TTS?

>>74451906
Are you brain damaged? I'm literally talking about OP and how he categorizes fans of female vtubers.
Oh wait, you like vshojo so of course you are.

>>74451962
The vtuber girls I simp for deserve it. That's the difference.

posting (once again) in another zen bait thread!

OP is Hana, seething over the fact that she actually E-Whored out.

>>74451746
This is some serious ironic projection.

>>74452236
Where's the projection? You agree with the OP and I don't.

>>74451746
The long version would be telling years of vtuber history and the history of this board. The short version is that some people are bad at social interaction. The same individuals tend to miss that people have fundamentally different values and a have had different experiences in this world, and therefore like different things. Said individuals are in all communities, but especially vtuber ones. This causes friction between communities.

>>74450571

>>74452301
>reply with irrelevant statements

>>74452219
ok dox-fag now go back to your website. May god forgive your sins

>>74452333
upvoted fellow redditor

>>74450792
>>74450866
>>74450900
>>74451249
>>74451892
>SIMON SIMON SIMON
rent free

>>74452333
Been watching vtubers for 5 years, i never donated to anyone. At most, I bought memberships.

>>74452485
I'm proud of you bro. Now let's take down hololive.

>>74452468

>>74452063
you mean the same pink cat who's irrelevant because even her bf is more entertaining?

>Female vtuber her spends her superchat money on her bf that she promises she doesn't have, just her brother/roommate totally...
"Who cares? it's just for entertainment, don't be a chud incel looking into their IRL. It's just a character...."

>Guy uses a female avatar for entertainment
"omg troon catfish trying to get our money!!???"

Hmmm, it's like vtubing is not about fun but about egirl sugar dadding with extra denial.

>>74452063
I like the name. It's actually perfect.

>>74452468
Hi Simon.

>>74452063
Zentreya was a bigger streamer than all the others before vshojo was a thing and didn't even have text to speech.

>>74450571
I don't mind him, but pretending to be a girl so you can farm simps is sad. If your personality is what matters you should be able to succeed as a male streamer. Jowol is a good example, uses female model but he doesn't hide his voice.

>>74452702
Was he a streamer all the way back then?

>>74451249
>the tits are just way too fucking big and bouncy
It's 2024, people won't stone you for being gay anymore, there's no point in hiding it

>>74452814
Yup, got big from the vrchat crazy back then. Since Zentreya was so big all the girls kept begging to collab which only helped Zen get bigger.

>>74452830
>people won't stone you for being gay anymore
I "met" a russian Zen anti in one of these bait threads, so don't be so sure. kek

>>74452937
You mean you imagined that someone was russian and started calling them russian.

>>74452814
ironmouses first ever vtuber collab was with zen, even before all the melody stuff i believe so zen's been around a very long time

>>74453020
no, he said it himself... then he called me a gay pedo for preferring Henya... he wasn't very smart kek

>>74453126
That never happened. I saw the whole exchange and you started calling him russian out of nowhere.

>>74453093
picrel

>>74453093
I was talking about before the TTS. I have no idea when the TTS use started but I feel like it was there during the end of VRchat era. Maybe I'm misremembering everything or thinking of someone else.

>>74453523
Zen didn't use TTS until about September of 2020. Before that she was a "mute" VRChatter and on stream used a note pad to type messages in text.

>>74453523
Before TTS Zen used notepad on screen. Either they never played with others or used text chat, idk

>>74452063
Zen was already a 3 view in 2018 while not even using tts, just writing on a notepad and relying purely on physical humor.

>>74453894
VRchat period was really something else.

>>74453360
you aren't very subtle now either

>>74453974
Why do you always lie? Everything I said is exactly what happened.

>>74453894
>>74453950
Zen's always been good with the physical aspect of expression even before facial tracking and full body got good. I've watched her since before the voice and always loved how well she could convey a situation through her demeanor.

>>74450571
>None of you actually care about le kayfabe
I do.
Unfortunately the majority of current vtubers don't.

>>74454270
well when all you have is a model and a notepad to start off with, you quickly become the vtuber equivalent of a ventriloquist and that's basically what Zen is, to Zen's merit however, this has worked pretty well for them

>>74450571
I'm not a fucking faggot so I don't want to watch a man pretending to be a woman.

Zen is based

>>74454412
based

It's been years and people still don't have a single proper reason to hate on Zen.

>>74450571
>them
sorry, you meant him.

>>74454685
The few times zen showed up to collab with my fav vtuber was unwatchable due to TTS delay so there's that

the whole "zen is a man" thing is such a retarded rrat

>>74455100
is there like, actual evidence of it or is it just because she uses TTS

>>74455100
You sure love arguing about this, don't you? Just call everyone simon already.

>>74455152
>is there like, actual evidence

no

>>74455152
Yes there is evidence.

>>74450571
I couldn't care less if it's a dude but at least use a voice changer. TTS is so soulless and shit to listen to.

>>74455421
the evidence

>>74455627
I know you have seen the evidence. It's not heavenly no matter how hard you cry.
You gave your money to a man.

>>74452646
A female avatar also attracts the largest demographic of vtuber watchers based on sexual orientation.

>>74455885
i've seen the evidence and it didn't convince me

>>74454685
TiTS cyborg bad

>>74455975
That's because you're delusional and refuse to acknowledge reality.

>>74452209
If this is a man I'm a total faggot

I picture Zen as a chubby mexican guy with some really strong inflation, latex and huge silicon tits fetishes.

>>74455598
No, Heavenly is not Zen.

>>74450571
>I love trannies
You could have condensed this post to be a lot less wordy.

>>74455885
In Toaster's POV, after he's in dead, he says, "Erm" and a guy's voice can be heard.
Can you make out what the voice says?

>>74456924
At what point in time, and why does it matter? It's not going to change anything.

>>74455885
>>74456924
>>74457191

Never mind the guys voice says, "Testing 1 and 2"
Zen in her POV says, "Testing 1 and 2"

>>74457370
yea that's just heavenly sitting in zen's lap

>>74457191
Its towards the end of clip around 1:14 into Toaster's POV
For Zen POV it's around 2:12

>>74455885
People who give money to Zen don't do it in the hope of getting pussy unlike most parasocial vtuber fans. They do it to have the privilege of roasting her and make the chat laugh.

>>74457519
Oh wow I didn't even realize that was there. So there's two instances of text matching the voice and then an additional instance the TTS voice matching.

>>74450571
What's stopping Zen from using more modern text-to-speech? I don't care if the vtuber is a Guy In Real Life, but I do care about my immersion being consistent and TTS just drags me out of it.

>>74450900
lol why would I be mad about that?

>>74457940
But it's funny when the TTS fucks up and she calls the other girls names like Pennsylvania or Haricot.

>>74457781
Yeah I didn't notice it first because I couldn't bear to listen to Toaster's squealing. Besides the evidence always pointed out the first 30 or so seconds, and I usually closed the clip after Zen says "What in the world did I just witness".

>>74455885
It sounds a whole fucking lot like heavenly's voice though and heavenly just happened to be part of that collab. And Zen didn't nuke the vod iirc. So yeah.

>>74458809
Zen's vod proves that it's not heavenly.

>>74458190
But I cant fap to TTS

>>74450571
there's no seething, he's just a dude and his fans are retards.

>>74457781
At around 0:22 into Toaster's POV, if you listen closely you can also hear "Zen say, "Holy shit, it's Jesus" after he cackles(?)

Zen never talks about fashion, make up, men, dating, other women's tits, hair, skin care, etc, topics that women can't help yapping about, it's pretty fucking obvious that it's a dude and everybody in his chat knows it, which is why they're so comfortable with sending savage TTS messages because they know he can take it, and Zen will happily talk shit back at them.
Personally I think the monotone deadpan voice has a lot of comedic value, especially during collabs with lots of chaotic shit happening.

>>74458809
Why would heavenly say testing 1 and 2 after zen's TTS cuts out
The last cope would be heavenly's audio picked up through discord and showed the text tts message on zen's end? it's massive cope

123 replies in and not a single "she" or "her" to green text: Impressive, but disappointing. She.

>>74459004
>clueless

>>74453593
wait so how is there any doubt then
Nearly all the VRChat mutes who voice reveal end up being trannies. Or straight up dudes, like the one who was attached to Sodapoppin for a while(and did a very lucrative subathon right before revealing he was a dude, lmao get fucked cucks)

>>74459609
>wait so how is there any doubt then
>Nearly all
You don't even read your own stuff before you post.

>>74459191
Yes? It's speech to text to speech. It doesn't work via text input it reads what audio comes in from the mic and outputs that. Zen also isn't the type to make jokes about something looking like jesus because it's flying in the air but that's 100% a Heavenly joke. His name is literally HeavenlyFather

>>74450900
Fuck that clip is so hot. Even hotter if she's hiding a fat cock.

I wish Zen was a femboy

>>74459609
Modern VR chat mutes are like that yeah, but Zen's from the early days of VR Chat mutes where they were significantly more common and the hardware to even get into full body VR was basically nonexistent. Completely different environment than today's weirdo Roflgator trading mutes as sex toys scene.

>>74459940
We don't have enough futa art

>>74459850
Zen says testing 1 and 2 on his stream in TTS voice (and text) and on Toasters POV you hear the same guy saying it without TTS voice

I find trannies disgusting and mentally ill.

>>74455598
If he used a voice changer people would be able to compare it to the voice of the girl he brought on stream and know it's not the same person.

>>74460061
The captions are automated too. It just tells you what the audio it's reading says. That's what makes it hands free.

today I will remind them
https://web.archive.org/web/20200422014851/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tIGnm2Dppo

>>74459191
I completely agree with you anon but slight correction.
The text doesn't show up, only the stts voice is heard when Zen says, "Testing 1 and 2"
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2107811753?t=5h9m10s

The texts shows a bit later, probably after reloading,
"I already let them know when I apologized"
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2107811753?t=5h10m00s

>retards believe audio is split such that one stream gets x, one gets y, and one gets none
It's Heavenly.

>>74458930
skill issue

>>74458809
>>74459850
Did a rrat seriously start just because Zen and Heavenly repeated the same sentence?

>>74460842
People really really want to believe they're the ones who "got 'em" so bad they'll force shit to be true.

>>74460720
That's literally YOUR argument. Why can't heavenly be heard on Zen's stream if it's him?

>Zen is Heavenly
>a black man is LARPing as a mexican who is LARPing as a woman
that's the most retarded thing i've heard all month

every zen thread the same shit lmao, it'll never change honestly

>>74460842
They repeated the same sentence three times and heavenly just magically couldn't be heard on Zen's stream for some reason? Your explanation requires schizophrenia to be believed.

>>74459955
Ah ok
Even so I learned a long time before VRChat existed to never trust people who were unwilling to talk on mic

>>74461011
Yeah it will never change as long as you keep stubbornly denying it after baiting out arguments about it.

>everyone is adamant zen is a woman
>zen slips up
>people make videos
>MUSO LTD nukes everything off the face of the earth with their lawyer ninjas
>people move on
>newfags move in
>[YOU ARE HERE]
>loop back to the start

>>74461179
>shit that has never happened

>>74461179
When has anyone moved on?

posting titties in the bait thread

>>74461179
some of it is still cached on archival websites. they're just willfully blind to it.

The gender isn't important by the way lmao

>>74460842
some schizo group is really losing their shit over zen

>>74461566
Oh so it's not simon anymore?

>>74461644
No it's Simon. He was bragging about it at the end of yesterday's thread.

>>74460225
I believe now

>>74461717
That's more like it. Everyone is simon after all.

>>74461014
"Testing 1 and 2" is said only once in this clip >>74460606 When is it repeated 3 times and when does the male voice appear exactly?
The sequence before that is just EvilToaster laughing and talking to Zen while Zen was muted.

>>74461869
Yeah. He also goes by blackjack on his doxing forum. >>74408259

>>74460225
I am not on enough drugs for this schizo shit lol

>>74461924
Zen says "it's jesus", "what in the world did I just witness" and "testing 1 and 2".
All of these things can be heard through Toaster's POV in "heavenly's" voice.

>>74461924
So you agree that's Zen saying, "Testing 1 and 2"?

>>74461968
You need professional help.

>>74451746
Because most twitch vtubers will be forever the western
>we have vtubers at home
version that was born out of a lot of the twitch scene shitting all over the concept of vtubing as this weird eastern fad that will surely pass, so everyone had to get their virtual signal hit in and be suddenly concerned about "parasocial fans" and the "problematic idol culture", before it kept staying and becoming more popular, so obviously they started to get on the bandwagon to leech. Now they and their eternal twtichfag fans, who at all had their first contact with this concept with the twitch knockoff, desperately try to prove (especially with their fake award shows) that they are the real deal, even realer than the original, and also more free, innovative and original and holding the moral high ground, even though they keep aping what they see the eastern agency vtubers doing mixed with the generic twitchslop content they were already used to, now just with an anime avatar draped over.

>>74451746
>Why do vshojo fans hate all other vtuber fans?
But that's wrong, vshojo members have collabed with lots of different vtubers outside of the agency, including hololive members, if their fans hated other vtuber fans then they wouldn't watch vshojo.

>>74463713
That makes no sense. Everyone knows vshojo fans hate "holofags". A collab with holo doesn't make the vshojo fans hololive fans and they themselves would never claim so either.

>>74463394
>eternal twitchfag fans

>>74464023
Parrot is fucking retarded