/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

VPoacho

>>74405084
It's sad really. If she wanted to join VS she would've joined at a heartbeat. Right now it's clear that she's keeping it as a fallback plan just in case her application to Holo fails.

>>74405243
>begging to join another Japanese corporation
This is what abuse looks like

>>74405243
Holo doesn't hire people with too much history like pomu and that other girl forgot her name sorry they're like all the same to me just googled, Selen.ajaw

>>74405458
Which is why it's not happening and that post has to be a joke. I refuse to think anyone seriously think she's still considering Hololive.

>>74405084
…this is bad somehow?

>>74405084
>most creatividad chuuba
>most creatividad agency
it just works

Do you ever think that
maybe
just maybe
Mint is a fun person to be around and they just like her?

>>74405548
uhm yeah, sweatie...
thet should alienate her

this is what a black company does

>>74405616
Improssibru. Every interaction is clearly a calculated move with an ulterior motive behind it

>>74405616
She seems well liked by vshojo and holo en girls alike

>>74405243
It's probably more like she has ptsd from her time in niji, and matara is trying to pull her into a better place.

>>74405084
vsj is open for friends anon...

>>74405243
That's what I was thinking, too. That's the only reason I can think of for her to not immediately join, outside of her seriously considering leaving forever again.

>>74405084
The only unusual thing here is that Matara hadn't invited her to the VShojo server yet since they opened it to guests a bit ago. Did Mata just not know? Henya ended up inviting her yesterday I believe.

I thought Matara claimed that the podcast would be temporary and that Mint would not be Vshojo. It's for the best too that Mint stays a free bird, not really tied to anything.

I wouldn't be surprised if she hasn't joined Vshojo out of pure spite. She seemed to get pissed at everyone expecting her to join the "Niji retirement home" like it was the only option.

>>74405483
THEY DONT?!
ITS SO SHIOVER!

>>74405616
Companies generally don't spend a lot of resources on random people "just because they're nice guys."

I doubt they're trying to poach her. More likely they know perfectly well her situation and are getting themselves a little bit of good PR and fan goodwill by helping her. There's nothing wrong with them doing good stuff for selfish reasons.

>>74405892
that was the joke anon, mata said early she would not invite her and she had to butter henya for it... But you don't really watch streams.

There's literally no doubt they are trying to coax Mint into joining. We just don't know if she'll join or not, but every passing day they seem to do more and more that I won't be surprised if she seriously thinks about joining. I think VShojo is about to make some bold moves in 2025, or at least by that time. Pushing beyond just streamers with their concerts. Matara was taking singing lessons while she was Nina, Mint is an obvious catch, then of course they nabbed Kson. I wonder how Nazuna will feel if Vshojo ends up spinning their gears for their idol arc.

>>74405084
If she joins trannyshojo I'll drop her too. Join Hololive or stay independent. It's that simple.

>>74406110
bye, we will not miss you

>>74405968
>spend a lot of resources
What, time?

>>74406110
>Join Unicornlive where she'll get harassed by Holocels for being a "whorish m*le collaber"
No thanks. For Mint's sake, keep her far away from Holo's fanbase

>>74405892
Mata probably doesn't want to come off as too pushy or like she's trying to be convince Mint to do anything, so she's left it to other people. Which is great. But when you depend on Henya to be the one to invite Mint to a server it's going to take her a few days to muster up the courage to do so even if she's already friends with them.

Kurosanji retirement home...

>>74405084
they're definitely trying their best to butter her up.
her deal breaker is twitch may end up being her trump card against VShojo unless they're actually willing to make an exception for her.

>>74405084
Henya was already pushing for her to join the Vshojo minecraft server too.
>>74405243
From the sounds of it, there is no application, she's just completely burnt out from the idea of being in an org, and legitimately didn't want to even come back to vtubing at all originally. It was entirely on mata that she got back into it, and so if she joins Vshojo it's because they've managed to convince her being in an org again is ok.

>>74406213
... are you retard?

>>74406411
are you retarded, there's exclusivity to twitch in vshojo

>>74405084
still joining hololive
still will mog your JPshit oshis when she's there
(you) will cope and seethe about it

>>74406213
Funding the merch shit is pretty weird when she's not part of the company directly. She's probably been helped by other shit too to help her get set up again. Matara only paid for the model rerigging, right? Was it redrawn, too?

>>74406779
>still joining hololive
proof?

>>74406736
yeah they've had several members stream on youtube whenever they feel like it.

>>74405458
>>74405483
>>74406549
Cope

>>74405458
>niji = holo
loving every laugh

>>74406736
mika has been streaming on youtube

>>74406802
>Funding the merch shit is pretty weird when she's not part of the company directly.
It's because Matara is a part of the merch.
>Was it redrawn, too?
No

>>74406830
See>>74405243
Where else would she fucking go? Just wait for the Kiara and Rissa collabs. Rosemi's joining her btw

>>74406736
no there isn't you retard

>>74406736
Yes, I am the King of Retards, happy now?
anon, they have members that stream on YouTube. kson in particular streams more on YouTube than on twitch.

>>74406919
>anon said it so it must be true
ok saar

>>74406854
seethe

>>74406736
You can multi-stream if you stream on Twitch. People have been doing this for months now.

>>74405514
Fuck you, I want her there.
I want my other kamioshi to achieve her lifelong dream of being a virtual idol.

>>74407037
It's not happening anon I'm sorry. VShojo is still a tossup but she's definitely not going Holo

>>74407037
She has been saying she isn't an idol for years now.

>>74406779
lol
https://twitter.com/i/bookmarks/1772790661206393081?post_id=1782981788429918337

>>74406229
What's wrong with us? We love Mint. She'll be an instant success with us. Besides, she may not be Mint much longer hinted in her debut stream, anon

>>74407140
Anon...
here
https://twitter.com/ENVTubersOOC/status/1782981788429918337

>>74405892
Henya invited her a week ago actually

>>74407243
ah shit thanks bro

>>74407123
>She has been saying she isn't an idol for years now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2aerbU2XCc

>>74407017
pmichi did a youtube only stream the other day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYYXM42t_8I
kson does those regularly too
some of the other girls too, but not too often

>>74407072
(You) don't get to decide anything, VShotranny

>>74406549
>giwtwm

cant wait for all those faggots to cast her out as soon she choose something else but blue dorito.

>>74407505
Are you implying that you do? Buddy she's got a podcast with Matara. She's been hanging out with VShojo and is getting a pass into their server. She and Mata have already planned multiple trips in the future. The last podcast episode talked about some even next year. It's time to let go.

>>74407505
Neither do (You) Holobrony. Or do we have to remind you what happened after you tried the same shit with Henya

>>74407391
That doesn't disprove anything she's been saying for years.

>>74407391
she's a fan. she has mentioned time and time again that she doesn't want to become an idol herself, delusional chicken.

>>74407505
We don't want Pomu nor her nudes in Hololive, pls let Vshotrannies take her

>>74407505
kek the boiling replies
KWAB

>>74405548
it's just irrelevant

>>74405084
Did IM ever interacted with bomu before? It is rather curious and makes me think things are really not decided yet, if she was already poached and secured they would keep her Vtuber comeback as a surprise for Vshojo debut.

she's joining 7/5 under a new alias

>>74405243
Why would she want to go to Hololive at this point? Vshojo basically can offer her most of the same things Holo can. Plus I doubt we get another EN until next year and even then I doubt Mint could get in, so why tease it?

>>74410050
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s7BtqdJif8
she might have also done a few collabs a long time ago

>>74407505
Let her go to vshitshow, we don't want her

>>74410050
>Did IM ever interacted with bomu before
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7s7BtqdJif8

>>74406779
>>74406854
Too bad Kiara can never collab with mint or matara now. Plus Kiara already has one foot in the grave

>>74405909
>shiori
>too much history
retard much?

If mint does somehow end up joining Holo be prepared for the immediate heel turn of "we didn't want that ungrateful bitch anyway" they've done it with every leaver so far

>>74406549
>legitimately didn't want to even come back to vtubing at all originally
You guys are so gullible lol. This happens literally EVERY SINGLE GRADUATION and it's the same story EVERY TIME. She didn't last a week without outing her personal account so she could be a niche internet microcelebrity again!

>>74410694
She didn't out anything, twitter did.

>>74405084
In my experience, sisters and VStrannies have been wrong about literally everything since forever. If they say she is not going to holo and she’s joining VShojo I expect her to be debuting with the rest of EN4 sometime this fall.

>>74411719
When are you getting Pikamee?

You corpobeggars are the second most pathetic subspecies in the vtuber fandom.
The first being Nijiniggers, of course.

>>74405084
It's kinda brilliant to keep us in the dark. There's constant buzz about what mint will ultimately do. You know once she makes her final choice her true return/debut stream will probably be legendary.

>>74410694
She didn't out anything. People wanted more pomu so they found her themselves.

>>74411719
As much as I'd love another cinderella story about triumph in the face of depression, it's still a big ask for her to get into Holo as long as Niji's still standing.
The sad part is she's absolutely too big for places like Phase, so it's pretty much either Holo or Vshojo as far as vtubing goes. Her popularity as a raw indie is hard to get a read on since she really doesn't have the networking skills or a manager yet that could actually promote her and help her grow/keep her audience. You seriously need more than just passion in order to actually run a large channel, regardless of how good your content is.

Spending a few thousands dollars for the pr move of "we saved mint" is clearly profitable.for vshojo
Plus, I don't trust companies that TRY to look like the good guys

>>74405084
btw gunrun also lent her mouse’s robot gundam to drive around the con. they are definitelt buttering her up

>>74405084
during the collab matara was also flexing by commanding her fanbase to mass giftsub/member mint. she got flooded by sc and memberships right after

7/5

>>74405084
Mint is insecure af and shy tho, im not gonna say it can't happen because it definitely can but there's a high chance all that effort from vshojo will be met with a no thank you kek

>>74412309
>people wanted more Pomu
I didn’t. I really didn’t.

>>74410555
what do you mean? kiara has always been welcome to collab with vshojo she was even on mouse’s show

>>74405084
Mint should just join already, make it even more obvious that Vshojo is where nijiEN members go to retire.

They are trying so hard, it's kind of pitiful

>>74416619
People, not monkeys

>>74416972
I really do think Mint, if it happens, should be the very last ex-Niji VShojo allows. They'd have cropped most of the best, and any more would really just make you the poach company.

the fact that you see holobronies and vslutjos fighting over pomu every fucking day even before she retired says alot about how valued she is
Fucking nijisanji really fucked up I honestly believed they could have surpassed holoEN if they took care of their talents properly and didnt neglect promoting and getting good managerial support for them

>>74410321
She wants to be an idol and Cover actually puts effort into their idol side

>>74417007
we already got 3 major talents from nijisanji so far I think we are doing just fine lol

>>74405084

>>74411719
VShojo was right about Pikamee and they were right about Nina and they were right about Mika. Holofags have been wrong about all 3 of those.

Soon

>>74417155
They took care of them... in 2021. Nothing is more tragic than Niji EN waning. It still blows my mind that they didn't bend over backwards when Pomu requested to graduate. They had months to make her reconsider. While Elira was always the face of Niji EN, Pomu was the soul.

>>74417519
It still weirds me out that holobeggars wanted Nina in the first place lol. Shes like the exact opposite of what a Hololive talent is

>>74417608
I wouldn't even say they took care of them back then. They were just new to the job and probably assumed that's just how things were until they simply never improved and things continued to spiral while people outside of their group flourished and thrived.

>>74417269
You don't know her. She loves idols, but that doesn't mean she aspires to be/stay one. Even if she does want to do that, VShojo does also do what's in their power to enable 3D live concerts and similar events. Something like the VILLS concert is on-par quality-wise with a Holo event, and they can do that for her.

>>74417608
They did in early 2021. Come september, the RE4 shit for Selen was the beginning of the end.
I remember a few other cases, too. Early on, when NijiKR was still relevant, they used to sing any song they wanted in unarchived karaoke because they knew management wasn't watching anyways, regardless of perms. Selen asked management if she could do that too, and instead management told her "wtf no" and instead banned KR from ever doing it in the future. At the time I didn't think much of it, but knowing about NijiEN, ID, and KR management now...

>>74417684
Most Holofags only know the most broadstrokes aspects of the people they beg for. And for Nina those qualities were "Hag with a milfy voice and a mommy personality." Just like for Pomu it's "likes idols."

>>74417680
I'd be extremely surprised if anyone actually wanted Nina in holo and wasn't just shitposting to counter the people saying she'd be in Vshojo.

>>74417806
Oops meant >>74417680

>>74417684
The managers actually did things like make events for the branch mire frequently. Notice that only recently they've been doing it again? Nit only that they used connections to help members get into contact with certain people, like when Beat Mario made a surprise appearance for the "Lazulight" karaoke.

>>74417719
vshojo literally hates idol culture, its a shit place if you are serious about the idol career

>>74417270
Yet they are still licking Mint's toes, goes to show how irrelevant those "3 major talents" are compared to an actual powerhouse

Given how much of a doormat she is, I'm betting the reason she hasn't joined Vshojo yet is because of the 6mo non-compete clause in the Niji contract. Yes, even if Mata and Kuro said "fuck it" and joined before those 6mo were up. Yes, even if the FTC ruled that non-competes were unenforceable in the US. She's that much of a doormat that she'd rather wait the 6 months than deal with any type of pushback.
Additionally:
>Mint loves the idol production company DearStage
>Many of her favorite idol groups are part of DearStage, including Dempagumi.inc, Niji no Conquistador, and Sayonara Stay Tuned
>The founder of DearStage, and the long-time producer of Dempagumi.inc, is Fukushima Maiko
>Fukushima Maiko, aka Mofuku-chan, is VshojoJP staff: https://twitter.com/mofuku/status/1548168013958254592
>Mint joining Vshojo would get her almost direct access to her favorite idol groups

>>74417719
>She loves idols, but that doesn't mean she aspires to be/stay one
YOU clearly dont know her. it's not even funny how wrong you are.

>VShojo does also do what's in their power to enable 3D live concerts and similar events.
1 off vanity events are not the same thing has what hololive provides, not even close.

>>74405084
man doesn't pomu find it annoying how tryhard and coercive they are? they are obviously being directed to try to recruit her at all costs by someone (poachrun), doesn't she know any better.

Personally I Mint should go the Dokibird route and just hire a manager, marketer and a lawyer. Shes doing fine on her own shes not really a Twitch streamer so benefits from Vshojo are minimal she can collab with any of then freely as an indie anyways
Hololive can be a double edged sword they can get her double her numbers and popularity possibly even more and access to the best 3d equipment in the industry but it will also come with the toxic fandom that will turn on her the moment she interacts with a man or the dumbest shit like not letting her fandom go full parasocial

>bronies still think Kiara is her oshi

>>74418561
>VshojoJP
You mean that thing that literally doesn't exist essentially since Nazuna bailed, and would make no sense and wasn't designed to work with EN vtubers for?

>>74412309
I didn’t even find her, twitter shoved her in my face

>>74418429
Im pretty sure Mystia was bigger than Pomu. Figuratively and literally kek

>>74418838
>Mystia

>>74417155
Never mind all the Selen shit, the moment Pomu left was proof of how fucked things are over there.

>>74418901
Deaf to all but the holos

>>74418748
Kson's manager is still listed as being part of Vshojo Japan (not plain Vshojo), so yes it still exists.

>>74418901
Correct, that faggot
was mogging le retard vox akuma from time to time during vox’s peak. Lets not pretend that Nijisanji EN males were once a huge thing

>>74417155
>>74418942
it's so fucking stupid it defies belief really. those two girls in specific were literally the only competitors they could offer up that people could even attempt to gauge up as similar to Holo-tier, no other girls they've had were even fucking close to them. and both of them left from being unsatisfied if not fucked over and given the runaround in favor of catering to girls who have far less clout and overall goodwill from the vtuber-watching audience and to rush out more literal fucking whos sitting at a solid 300 viewers making fifteen bucks a stream.

literally actually really truly unironically any random fag from /vt/ would probably have a lot more fucking common sense of priorities and make correct calls than who they actually have there in nijiEN. their management isn't like "barebones but adequate and scrapes by", it's "barebones and also harmful to the brand and is directly relevant to its poor performance" in the shit they allow and don't allow and what their priorities are.

>>74406014
>But you don't really watch streams.
nta but I can't watch streams with the roach in them, sorry.

>>74418429
VShojo always wants new members. They have several members bigger than Mint right now. That doesn't mean they don't want her despite that.

>>74406014
I can’t even blame people for not watching streams anymore. Who has time to watch all these vtubers nowadays?

>>74419413
It's fine if you don't watch streams because you watch someone else. It's retarded when some people try to tell someone who does actually watch streams how things are though. In this case Matarafags know quite a lot about Mint and VShojo and what they're doing.

>>74419234
Those 2 girls was all they needed given during that time NOBODY in holo en besides maybe Kiara(lol) and Mori was streaming regularly.

>>74405084
I'll drop her if she "join" Vshojo. I'm grateful that Matara's been so generous to her friend, but I prefer if Mint stays independent, thank you.

>>74419413
I work at home and I put up VODs or livestreams of talents on the background while working or playing some vidja its completely replaced netflix for me honestly

>>74419515
That's the funniest and most stupid thing I've seen, the crown was the taking but NijiEN just decided to parade around it until HoloEN got rid of Omega and started pumping money into them. Nijisanji could've gotten many HoloEN graduated but alas.....

>>74418740
anon, multiple oshis and one kamioshi, the one who's above all. like, I oshi Henya but she isn't my kamioshi.

>>74419678
The moment advent dropped it was over for NijiEN. Hololive regained monopoly of the youtube audience instantly. Thats why you notice theres so much sister bait threads of Fuwamoco? they know it was over the moment the first BAU BAU was uttered

>>74419377
Ehhh, I think they know that "accelerate" is a bad move, and they at least vaguely know their limits when it comes to resources and management. I think VShojo is being fairly cautious when it comes to expansion. Reminder that Mouse had to pester them to offer Geega a contract, even though it seemed so obvious

>>74407704
>nudes
wait what wtf?

>>74420019
pomu used to be a frequenter of /cgl/ back when she was a minor. She posted nudes stupidly one day with a "hi /b/"and someone saved them and spread them around after she made it into niji to smear her. It's CP so no I won't post it or give more info beyond that, but apparently a bunch of seething /cgl/ girls are pissed that she made it big.

>>74405084
While you argue Mint responded

>>74418748
>You mean that thing that literally doesn't exist essentially since Nazuna bailed
They still have staff there anon, how much they actually do outside of helping with stuff like the concerts and Kson's projects like the popup store is anyone's guess though. Henya has even talked about how they've tried to get her to do meetings in person and she refuses before.

>>74420306
OMG THIS IRONWHORE

>>74419896
VShojo can't accelerate simply because they don't do waves or generations. VShojo could add new people in as often as Nijisanji debuts waves and they would end a year with less new people than a single Holo wave brings.

I wish there was more art of bug molesting ghost with her multiple bug arms.

>>74417442
>While showing off to those around them that they are helping the weak, they also use the weak for their own personal gain
Damn, they're eating good
Totally not a black company

>>74420181
Holy shit didn't know that.. but how did those lechers figured out that minor was Pomu?

>>74420306
lol

>>74420789
Probably just compared it to her RM stuff. Either way it's definitely not something I'd like to deal with.

>>74405243
Why would that be sad? It seems like a prudent choice for everyone involved if she actually wants to go to Hololive.

>ywn have Mint service you sexually while Matara sucks you brains out brainbug style

>>74418561
She's probably honoring that non-compete because while she's a US citizen, she probably sees value in the potential of doing business with JP corporations in the future (regardless if she's applying to Cover or not). Defying the non-compete *in Japan* with Anycolor might make it more difficult for her to get work with other JP companies.

>>74418561
welp, I'm trading my vote in then. Good luck to Mint getting into vshojo if it means she gets to molest more idols IRL. Good luck, Vshojo Mint!

>>74407704
But Kiara has nudes too and they don't care about those

>>74423400
those are fake
>Verification not required.

Eternal reminder

>>74405084
>a concentrated effort to groom Mint into joining them?
No. She's already in. She just needs to wait a bit more until the non-competitive clause runs out.

>>74419690
whore

>>74417270
I keep forgetting Mysta was a thing.

>>74424051
lmao those nicknames

>>74405483
Yeah truly, something like that Polkan't happen in Holo. Guranteed.

>>74405084
fucking vshojobeggars. Now she's gonna be the bad guy if she ignores a vtuber like Mouse

>>74424051
huh am I fucking having the mandela effect? I could swear pomu graduated before selen and nina

>>74424305
Before Selen, yes, but not Nina

>>74424305
>I could swear pomu graduated before selen and nina
Well, she did graduate before Selen.
Also, a very important question:

https://poal.me/w9n475
https://poal.me/w9n475
https://poal.me/w9n475

>>74424297
shes been itching to play minecraft again since her debut anon but she dosent have a server. Vshojo just happens to have a server full of Vshojo and friends not everyone in there is Vshojo there are even some there that are in a small corpo. Its basically VCR but for twitch EN minecraft players. You just need to be friends with someone like mouse to enter

>>74424297
nice melty

>>74405243
>>74405842
if we go by what she actually said, then the reason is that she is still brainfucked by niji brainwashing, sunk cost fallacy and stockholm syndrome.
Would rather LARP about how she is "ready to move on from vtubing" and "nobody would want me back anyway" than admit the problem has always beem Nijishit and she spent years betting on the wrong horse. Now that everyone told her to stop being fucking retarded she finally decided to stop being a bitch

>>74425693
Man, something I remember floating around was her saying
>I keep seeing people say they know what I'm doing after graduation, hint hint wonk wonk, but really? Could you tell me then please? Because you seem to know more about it than I do

>>74405084
shhh shhh. just let it happen.

>>74424051
>Michigan
KEK

>>74418838
That's the thing, "was"
Who the fuck even cares about him now ?

Say what you will about Vshojo or Kurosanji, but i still think NijiEN zatsus in the godlen age were peak
Whatever the fuck Not-Mika is doing right now sounds so forced it might as well be scripted

>>74426031
he still gets shit better than majority of niji en he was running 4k ccv a few hours ago

>>74426051
Can you post a single example?

>>74423400
w-where? can you guide me to the source, good sir?

>>74426185
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdiPPv879UI

>>74426264
https://litter.catbox.moe/pgspq7.jpeg

>>74426334
Thats not a zatsu stream

>>74426334
Are you not watching the Yappathon going on right now? 3 hags, 1 autist, 1 SEA zoomer.

>>74426457
Yea, but like i said earlier, compared to the early NijiEN zatsus of mostly Pomu, Elira, and Rosemi or early Finana, hearing Caribou and Geega trying so hard to go for shock humor is just weak shit

>>74424297
I don't think they'll cut her loose because she doesn't want to join. It's Mint, people benefit from her being around, even if she isn't in your corpo.

>>74425937
That one comes from Zentreya's TTS. She tends to accidently give people nicknames because of it. Haruka has the worst of it with "Haircut", "Hurricane", and "Hard Cock"

>>74426542
You're not watching are you. Haruka hasn't hardly talked at all.

>>74424305
Nina>Mika>Pomu>Selen

>>74405084
She already knows where she's going. She's no longer a free agent.
That's why the podcast already has a definite end date.

>>74405243
She doesn't need to apply. If she wants to join Hololive, they'll interview her right away.

>>74420410
in her shoes you'd have done the same thing!

>>74427121
You cannot be serious.

Mint is joining Hololive

>her podcast with Matara is likely to end this summer
Because she's joining Hololive in the Fall. She will be too busy with her first year in Hololive to be able to do a podcast.

>she was hesitant on coming back as a vtuber
One of her biggest struggles with coming back or not as Mint, was that her return would be temporary. She didn't want to come back to her fans, only to leave again shortly after. It took a lot of convincing from Matara to get her to come back.

>she was considering taking up a job at fast food or a grocery store
She only needed a job temporarily and part time jobs are easy to get out of. If she wasn't joining Hololive, she would have considered being an OL instead.

>she wasn't going to get a new model or rerig her old one
No point in spending that much money on something you won't be using for longer than a few months, because she's joining Hololive

>>74426641
Wasn't "How to Car" from TTS too?

>>74427201
What a compelling and well thought-out retort. You've given me a lot to think about.

>>74427212
Hololive isnt recruiting currently and they also dont poach
Sorry to disappoint you

>>74427298
She graduated from Niji, so it wouldn't be poaching.

>>74427298
Thanks insider-kun

>>74427272
>She doesn't need to apply. If she wants to join Hololive, they'll interview her right away.
I'll just let you bask at what you've just said one more time. If you need special assistance to figure out why that post was retarded, you're beyond help.

>>74427212
>No point in spending that much money on something you won't be using for longer than a few months
Except that's exactly what she did. The Mint model was rerigged.

>>74427389
>he lacks critical information

>>74424485
Fuck you, she's joining Holo

>>74427364
>i have no rebuttal

>>74427298
>Hololive isnt recruiting currently
They don't do recruitment announcements anymore. It's all open auditions now.

>>74427298
Open auditions since council, anon..

>>74406055
Michaelcat will either go the JAV route or marry a rich chinese guy. These are the only paths she can take right now.

>>74427343
Considering they won't let Holostars or Hololive EN collab with Doki, but they can use their PLs to, i can assume Niji still has some say on who and what Cover "should" and "shouldn't" do

>>74407037
Kiara will leave Holo and join VShojo instead.

>>74427655
Going the JAV route would mean increasing in popularity and she isn't smart enough to do that

>>74427702
no please she wont fit in here shes too straight laced and strict

>>74405243
Kek why settle for a lesser company when theres a slight possibility you could be nepohired

>>74427755
Anon, that's just the Hololive veneer.

>>74426457
im impressed michi can out yap matara AND geega

>>74427825
Never question an Indo's ability to waste other people's time

>>74427671
Or management instructed them to not get involved with her on their corpo accounts so as to avoid Hololive getting caught up in any drama.

>>74426542
>Haruka
>Geega
>Going for shock humor
How to out yourself as someone who's not watched a single minute of either of them.

>>74425937
Kunai's are still the funniest to me

>>74427797
kiara is the pure definition of a top tier veteran idolfag autist that loves pushing until she gets what she wants. I dont want her joining vshojo and end up trying to turn the place into hololive jr.
The reason I watch vshojo is because i prefer girlfailure dirty whores to pure seiso idolfags

>>74427440
kek

>>74427950
what the fuck is going with jane backshot

>>74417608
>Elira was the face of NijiEN
There were at least 5 VTubers you'd remember before ever remembering Elira:
Pomu, Vox, Selen, Rosemi, Petra

Elira did try very hard to become the "face of NijiEN" though: by fucking the other girls over and getting merch and corpo collabs all for herself as the greedy bitch she is

>>74428003
>rosemi
>petra
Come on now

>>74427989
She's the queen of backshots, ratshots, and vore

>>74424305
>Before Nina
>The first person to properly graduate from NijiEN
??? The order of leavers Yugo -> Zaion -> Nina -> Mysta -> Mika -> Pomu -> Selen -> Kyo -> Rosemi

>>74428051
Mika wasn't NijiEN

>>74428003
theres only 3 Niji En women that was regularly mentioned /here/ before the yabs happened
selen, pomu and enna for her singing

>>74428003
You really don't comprehend why she is the face of Niji EN. Did you even watch the full collab Lazulight sponsers?

>>74420019
Lurk more

>>74426542
>Geega
>Shock humor
wtf??? that rigid broad dosent even crack jokes shes THE business logistics brainrotted middle aged office lady experience

>Pomu when she gets denied the opportunity to suck David Hayter's cock live on stream:
"I CAN'T BELIEVE NIJISANJI WOULD RUIN MY ONCE IN A LIFETIME OPPORTUNITY!"
>Pomu when her 'friend' attempts to kill herself as a result of the stress and harassment she's been enduring:
"Haha guys, look at this funny snake daki"

I don't know man, It feels weird seeing Mint be 100% radio silent on something like this. I can only really ignore it if she's really applying for Hololive. But then, even Mumei talked about 'looking after a friend' shortly after everything came out.

Feel weird
Were they really just coworkers in the end?

>>74428088
Eh I mean she wasn't but she was heavily involved in EN and she's relevant to the conversation since this thread's about VShojo and its hires. And trying to list out all of the goddamn NijiID's that have graduated before getting to Mika is insanity so it's easier to just count her with the EN's

>>74428025
Idk about petra but I've had people who don't really watch vtubers bring up Rosemi (mostly on account of the meme-worthy intro she has)

>>74428162
She was shilled the most, but she was miles behind pomu and doesn't even have that "daisenpai" title people love to toss around. That was also pomu. Elira might've been popular early on, but even that was mostly because pomu took a break from her surgery. Once she passed her, Elira was never more than a memory in terms of actual fanbase or revenue.

>>74428162
yea because shes part of management and she keeps pushing herself in the spotlight and cucking opportunities for better talent
Honestly nobody cared about Elira before the yab nobody hated or loved her besides rrats there was just indifference

>>74428264
If after this she joins vshojo and then suddenly goes +10,000 vapid ethot mode (like mika literally did) then that's a lightspeed drop.

Keep in mind she simply quit, wasn't terminated. If she joins vsj at exactly the six month mark, you know that was waiting out the contract (even though just-now that's no longer a thing, maybe niji HQ threatened to do something if she breached it anyway etc). In which case fuck her for enabling clique 2.0 shit.

>>74407639
>Or do we have to remind you what happened after you tried the same shit with Henya
NTA but he can just say that he was just "pretending" about wanting Pikamee in Holo and that you were 100% stupid to think he was being serious with his "shitposting".

The same thing will happen with Pomu.

>>74428264
it's better to stay away from any drama or any potential of it. Anything Selen-related is still dangerous and prone to become drama. sometimes the best thing to do is to do nothing and let time pass.

>>74428346
She is the FACE. Face doesn't mean the most popular but the person that is put up front for various reasons. Both Pomu and Finana saw Elira as the leader.

>>74428264
Nice fanficiton, have you considered publishing it?

>>74428162
while Pomu was the "face", the upper brass liked Elira more.

>>74428346
Just a reminder that fucking FINANA has more daisenpai energy than Elira lol

>>74428622
ok i dunno about that especially after what she did to pomu LOL she never even paid her back

>>74428264
>Feel weird
>Were they really just coworkers in the end?
On one hand, it does feel weird, but on the other, Doki's made it very, very clear from the start that she wants nothing more to do with Nijisanji, past or present. She's completely cut everyone off except for U-san, and from what I've seen, she's the one ignoring everyone, not the other way around. I've watched every single doki stream since she came back and I don't thinks he's even really hinted at Nijisanji or anybody from there, even when mentioning U-san. U-san is just a random friend she has, not an ex-coworker. If anybody is in contact with her, it's only in private and I wouldn't hold your breath if you're expecting any Niji reunions, especially after what they did to her for trying to upload one last time.

Actually technically she DID reference niji the other day, possibly the hardest reference she ever did... and all she did was laugh at a character saying "I got fired" and say "Oh, that's too real."

>>74417608
>They took care of them
You can't treat Pomu in the same level of Finana. ofc she's gonna leave

>>74428264
>I don't know man, It feels weird seeing Mint be 100% radio silent on something like this.
Because she talked about it on her RM twitter months ago. Why would she bring it up randomly on her Mint account now?
Although judging by your other faggot-ass comments, you probably don't care and just want to shitpost.

>>74428264
>>74428864
Pomu has always been the core part of the clique.

>>74421212
Being a second choice is never a good feeling.

>>74429109
>henya is the real evil queen bee

>>74429109
>yfw it's actually Pikamee

>>74429075
>she talked about it on her RM twitter months ago
she never talked about it, she's avoiding it like a plague

>>74429155
>>74429182
Henya, being the genius she is, got in a bad company, that's all.

>>74429109
P-Pikamee?!
No... It can't be, right? Did Pikamee bully selen to suicide?

>>74405514
NTA but why not... Holo is a good company.

>>74429207
https://files.catbox.moe/44cfyl.m4a
There's not many things she could have learned about her previous job that would leave someone traumatized.

>>74428264
>But then, even Mumei talked about 'looking after a friend' shortly after everything came out.
Reminder it was doki that spilled those beans, otherwise it would be 100% speculation and we would be dogpilling on mumei for not caring.

>>74405514
>join holo
>become literal millionaire
>actually get noticed by Kojima this time
>have sex with Kiara whenever she wants
If she got the offer I'm like 90% sure she'd join in a heartbeat. Thing is it's tough to assume holoEN staff would openly poach such a well-known figure. Wouldn't really be the first time however, Polka was pretty well-known beforehand etc.

>>74429256
All according to keikaku! dayo

>>74429256
>Did Pikamee bully selen to suicide?
Kill yourself, ~dayo

>>74429210
Bad company? She's not in Nijisanji.

>>74429320
damn this girl is smart. traumatized is the only juicy word, and she didn't pick any side to lean on

yeah she'll join Pikamee from EN3 and Mika from the newest HoloID wave just like /vt/ predicted.

Also did you all memoryhole the indie graduation wave that was obviously Holo recruiting - they already decided on EN4.

>>74429320
>vague mention in a hidden, deleted twitter space

>>74429143
company does not care

>>74429057
You can't read.

>>74429659
who did graduate?

>>74429592
yeah, she's pretty much staying completely neutral. The closest thing to a swing in either side is how you can psychoanalyze her responses to Nova's name and a reference to Selen. Nova's name was brought up immediately and then quickly lampshaded and never referenced again, while Mint bit onto a selen reference with a reference of her own, and followed it up by saying that she was "unbothered" by someone "sensing seething in the universe," and the absurd laughter at the tomato.

It's not much to go off of, but the schizo inside me says she wants to somehow still be friends with both sides but is likely confused as fuck emotionally right now since she deathly wants to avoid drama.

>>74405616
If you dont think they are whispering sweet nothings to her I have a bridge to sell to you.

>>74429742
Pretty sure they're just waiting for the drama to die down

>>74429821
Like what?

>>74429740
S.oya and Yuniiho and some smaller ones. They were all pretty boring and vanilla, but too big for some 3 view Niji future..
Their biggest catch, Grimmi, ungraduated last second. The idea that everyone wants to be in HoloEN is some 2022 nostalgia.

>>74430057
grimmi's thing happened almost exactly around the time of the Elira black stream drama and utterly catastrophic damage done to nijiEN's reputation. fucking everyone assumed that meant she was slated to join nijiEN and the fallout was so bad she backed out. nobody was talking about holoEN at that time.

>>74427702
She is too deep in holo debts to graduate.
You can leave holo either by being a top earner and spending all your money to pay for the debt or by Cover not needing your anymore. And seeing how even the top HoloEN earners are happy to slave for measly 360$, I can clearly say that Kiara isn't leaving anytime soon.

>>74430204
should have paid attention to what Shondo hinted at instead of consuming /vt/ garbage.

>>74430204
Did you even listen to her un-graduation stream? It's confirmed not nijisanji.

>>74430525
She just doesn't want any NDF or be labeled as someone who can refuse to work under all mighty Riku

>>74430856
She literally praised the staff and said that everyone was so nice. Even if you for some reason think she lied about it having nothing to do with niji does that sound like that black company to you?

>>74430951
Who, Grimmi? Yeah that actually does for someone who wants to not be roped into fucking drama and constant harassment.

>>74431050
No, it doesn't. She didn't have to say anything at all about that to not receive harassment.

>>74427953
>Kiara
>pure seiso
You fags don't even watch hololive.

>>74429393
Wasn't Kojima live in the audience for this?

>74405800
>better place
>another corpo but this time filled with niji rejects to remind her of her past abuse
lol

Atleast with vshojo she can join a smaller western company instead of going full blown JP corpo autism and have to deal with all the hilarious jap bullshit that that every big JP corpo does.

>>74432438
you are soulless, she had a good relationship with all of the ex-niji members in vshojo.

>>74433562
Bruh >>74423866

>>74433768
What about it?

>>74433823
You guys have been shitposting that line so much that searching Matara brings up a image of Mint

>>74433853
What line are you talking about?
Also why would that even matter for the argument?

>>74424051
>doxxtard doesn't even know about Mysta "debuted a month later" Re:ass

>>74417093
How else are they gonna get new members? Do auditions? LMAO

>>74433562
Selen had a "good relationship" with Vox and Ike, too, and they ruined Neopets. I refuse to trust any "good relationships" from on stream anymore.

>>74433900
Ah yes the infamous Nijisanji auditions consisting of asking questions about how would you (as a male vtuber) compete with gawr gura and forcing you to give up all of your work (Voice acting etc) to get into nijisanji

>>74405084
As someone who regrets not watching Mint despite people yapping on about her in the threads back in the day, the second she announced she was doing stuff with vshitshow I immediately tuned out.

Niji is trash but vshojo ain't any better with the kind of people they allow in their company.

>>74433911
Can you try to make a coherent argument instead of whatever you do now?

>>74433895
>sister ignores the fact that Luxiem gets special treatment

>>74406736
Not exclusive to Twitch. It's just they have connections to get anything for them like immediate partner. They don't have anyone to butter up on YouTube's side. Henya forgot about her play button so she can't get it now.

>>74433976
The point is not to take anything done in the entertainment medium as offline relationship or feelings. They're entertainers and actors. Their job is to pretend they like each other in front of the camera. Whether or not they ACTUALLY care enough about each other isn't really something you can easily judge from their public face.

>>74433878
You sisters are OBSESSED with pushing the "Take that antis Mint still hangs out with the clique via Matara!!!" narrative that you are changing the algorithm into thinking Matara is Mint. Thats how often you've used the word Matara with a picture of Mint

>>74434142 (Me)
>antis
I forgot they dont use that word. Its "dookibird" and "grifterbird"

>>74434071
And? That doesn't mean they're fake either. Considering that Matara literally hangs out with Mint irl I don't think it's just for the camera either but whatever. Even if it was it doesn't mean Vshojo is a bad place at all since that argument can be used for any online group, including Hololive.

>>74434142
>You sisters
Are you retarded? The overwhelming majority of the vshojo fanbase is male and nobody makes any excuses for nijisanji.

>>74418567
she has mentioned time and time again that she doesn't want to become an idol herself, holomoron.

>>74406919
>Rosemi, Pomu, Maria Marionette, ???
Who else is Holo going to grab for the gen even? They're running out of liggers to poach.

>>74434338
They clearly dont have to considering Biboo was a low end 2view and has quickly become a top EN vtuber
I'd trust them over whatever retarded shit you guys are trying to push any day

>>74432351
Yeah, it freaked out Mouse later when she thought about the fact that Kojima and Matthew McConaughey potentially know she exists.

>>74410555
>Kiara already has one foot in the grave
I don't believe it.

>>74434270
>And? That doesn't mean they're fake either. Considering that Matara literally hangs out with Mint irl I don't think it's just for the camera either but whatever. Even if it was it doesn't mean Vshojo is a bad place at all since that argument can be used for any online group, including Hololive.
Yeah, I don't really care at this point where she ends up. It's her decision anyways and it'll be up to the fans to either decide to keep supporting her, or leave if she makes the "wrong choice" for them. Both of my favorites already got stung hard by this line of thinking, so I'm overly skeptical just out of habit, even if she prefers people to keep their innocence and trust.

>>74407505
>>74407181
>>74407037
>>74405243
is this an elaborate falseflag or are you seriously this retarded?
Kiara joining Mint in VShojo is more likely than Mint joining Hololive
the former has like a 0.01% chance of happening, the latter absolute 0, she's either staying indie or, more likely, joining the niji retirement home

>>74434270
Jesus, getting that defensive over a comment and willing to suck dick for a corpo. I thought you VShojofags were different from holobronies.

>>74433928
At least they had auditions and hired people from it.
The only outcome from the VShojo auditions were doxxing, exposing how incompetent their management is and how willing they are to throw people under the bus.

>>74434670
And where did those auditions lead to? TTT is so irrelevant that they had Enna and Rosemi sing their group song because TTT cannot sing for shit

>>74434754
They lead to members that are now part of VShojo. They wouldn't be there otherwise, think about that.

>>74434569
There's no thought in your head, you just want to shit on vshojo for no reason.

>>74434670
The auditions from Vshojo resulted in Haruka being hired and the supposed doxxing problem was not only not their fault but they also helped the affected person.

>>74434852
>you just want to shit on vshojo for no reason.
You can't take the smallest of criticism that's directed at your precious company, VShojodrone.
Not even sure why you even come here, just stay in your general if you can't take the heat.

>>74434368
Biboo actually played video games. It was a really really low bar to reach.

>>74434754
>Don't produce the gen
>The only promotion is a couple tiktoks on twatter that nobody sees
>Most people don't even know who they are
Niji's been making some wild choices.

>>74434980
More like you can't take the smallest amount of pushback against your retarded sperging about vshojo. Try to at least write something funny or a real criticism if you don't want to get humiliated for your low IQ takes.

>>74435124
You're the one getting defensive about your company, retard. Read this stupid shit you typed
>Even if it was it doesn't mean Vshojo is a bad place at all since that argument can be used for any online group, including Hololive.
Nowhere does the guy you replied to says that VShojo is a bad company. He's saying that don't take in-stream relationships at face value. This is just embarrassing, and screams victim complex.

>>74406736
>are you retarded, there's exclusivity to twitch in vshojo
Zen streamed a few times in YT

>>74435250
Ok now go up the conversation chain a bit, moron. He implied that Vshojo is not a better place before that.

>>74405084
>podcast is suppose to be a side thing with Matara to keep Mint active
>Ceo just happens to pops in to say hello
>Matara getting so upset when she found out Mint thought she wasn't serious about starting a podcast
>ep 3 focus on :"getting to know Mint" and a personality test to learn how she thinks
>Mint learns a lot latter that she would be appearing at OffKai with Matara
>the push by Matara for Mint to reach out to Vshojo members more
>the collab with oshi Henya that came faster than how Mint works
>allowed to enter the Vshojo Minecraft sever?

I support the show but this feels really obvious at this point. If Mint joins vshojo it's going to be out of guilt.

>>74435476
Not beating the VShojodrone allegations.
He's saying VShojo might not be a good environment specifically for Mint because of the ex-nijis. Same nijis that were sucking eachother off and saying how much of a family they are. He's keeping the same stance through all this that he can't trust in-stream relationships, but your only takeaway from this is "Vshojo bad".

>>74435552
they're buttering her up for it.
all they need is to do is to convince her to try twitch which will be the most difficult part.

>>74435681
No, I refuted his core argument "Vshojo is not a good place for Mint" that you now throw a fit over because I dared to disagree.
Grow up.

>>74435476
You are arguing with a sperg who will just end up calling you sister to own you. Learn to spot mannerisms that show derangement and ignore them.

>>74435787
She doesn't need to try Twitch. Yes, it's easier for them since they have connections, but in the end it's up to talents where they stream. Kson, Kuro, Michi all do Youtube streams no problem when they want to.

>>74436053
anon, i never meant something like twitch exclusivity, by "try" I mean just that. a twitch stream once in a blue moon.

>>74436247
if she were to actually join them and just keep YouTube as her main platform then that'll be something.

>>74405084
>Mint has been close to many Holo talents after graduation
>Actively and clearly deny Matara's advances
>Clearly hasn't given up on the idol dream
She's clearly just being nice to Matara but fully intend to go Holo

Fuck kfp faggots and vshojo is not a corpo

>>74436758
>vshojo is not a corpo
wrong.

>>74435943
Am I not allowed to disagree with you, what's your angle here? Do you think VShojo is a good fit for everyone?