/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>74370168
>TTT's theme song
>Vocal: @EnnaAlouette & @MariaMari0nette
I'm sure VIvi's fans will be happy about this

>TTT MV
>Vocals: Enna & Maria
???

>>74370168
Obviously intern-chan fucked up and didn't replace the text after copypasting

>>74370844
They would have fixed it already if it was a mistake

>>74370844
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JebSygojkM4
>◆ Credits
>Vocals: @EnnaAlouette & @MariaMarionette
>Lyrics: The Hideout Studios
>Composition & Arrangement: Shotaro Seo (MONACA)
TTT didn't get to sing their own song

>>74370168
Well, this is weird.

>>74370939
Niji managers take an entire day to reply to a message, what makes you think they would drop everything to fix a vocal credit

>This is this group's theme song!
>But people completely unrelated are singing it!
What's the fucking point?

>>74371764
Because it's not an error. The song came out back in October, they're only getting around to making an MV for it now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9s_rUVCIeU
>Enna Alouette - Topic
>DESIRE · Enna Alouette · Maria Marionette · The Hideout Studios · 瀬尾祥太郎 (MONACA) · 瀬尾祥太郎 (MONACA)
>Released on: 2023-10-28

>>74370168
This has been known. As much Ethyria likes to cry boohoo "forgotten wave", TTT doesn't even have a group name. They came up with that themselves. They didn't get to do a debut song like every wave prior. They got next to zero announcement pre-debut. The girls deserve better unironically. If Claude wanted better though, he should try just fucking asking.

>>74370844
Nope. A sister confirmed the song is sung by Enna and Maria because apparently they wanna help their kouhais so that they aren't stressed to sing their theme song

>>74370168
Desire is like half a year old though? What is niji doing if they think retconning an existing song into a gen's theme makes any kind of sense?

Vivi: Heh. My work here is done.

>>74371970
>They didn't get to do a debut song like every wave prior. They got next to zero announcement pre-debut.
That's because the wave was leaked so they rushed it out.

>>74371970
I find it odd to be honest because the NijiEN formula has always been: A wave debut with group name reveal and a group song right after debut

What made TTT different ?

>>74370168
>Vocal: @EnnaAlouette & @MariaMari0nette

Fucking kek this company

>>74372131
So was Krisis.

>>74372159
Management laziness

>>74370168
...LOL.

>>74372131
Wrong wave, you’re thinking of Krisis

>>74370385
>>74370625
>>74371127
>>74371900
>>74371929
shut up dramafags

But is the song any good?

>>74372386
>couldnt even be bothered to sing their debut song
Kek

>>74372386
>HAPPY HAPPY POG BIRTHDAY, LUCA!
>We love you. POG YOU, boss!

>>74370168
These names feel like shit posts that were made on here. "Claude Clawmark" feels like a parody of vtuber names.
>>74370385
Why even call it the TTT theme song if they don't sing the actual song? Can none of them sing or is this Niji management acting like idiots like usual?
>>74370844
Idk after all the shit that has happened, this is probably legit.

>>74372503
Listen to it yourself, it's been out since October
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9s_rUVCIeU

>>74370168
>Half Anniversary
What are they celebrating exactly? Surviving? Do they not think they'll make it to a full year nowadays?

>>74370168
man thats a bad font

>>74372548
Coming soon - Nijisanji IT (Italy)!

Featuring:
Luigi Linguini
Betty Spaghetti
Oliver Oil

I expect my paycheck in the mail anytime, EN management.

>>74372548
Can't be a singing quality thing. Luxiem got 2 original songs funded by Niji.

>>74372386
Sounds like insane cope to me. These songs are one of the promotional things for your wave and your going to have it flow to enna and maria instead of yourselves?

Feels far more likely it was just some reheated project slapped with wave name pending (ttt) as being supposedly what its promoting.

>>74372386
>couldn't be assed to sing debut song
grim

>>74372744
Betty Spaghetti, my beloved

>>74372744
you forgot Musa Linni

>>74370168
Someone tell Nijisanji that April fool's is long over

>>74373103
Kek
>>74372744
Pisa Toura
Rava Ravioli
Cikky Marsala

>TTT's theme song
>not featuring TTT
What's the fucking point?

>>74372386
So unburdened for setting up a fucking debut stream only for kunai to go on a long break like 2 weeks later anyway lol
I'm sure they were all very happy to not partake in the whole idol thing, especially Vivi.

>>74372744
You forgot the runt who debuted late tha ks to a housefire at their pizzaria, Pepa Roni

>>74373103
jej

>>74372386
>at their debut
I don't understand, did they not want to sing their own song, or were they simply unable to do so because their debut was rushed? Surely they could find a moment in all these past 6 months to get together and sing the fucking song, right?

>>74370168
Why does Nijisanji still larp as idols when they're not a idol company?

It's pretty much confirmed that Da Wose is jumping ship to vslutjo. I wonder when Ms. Brightshield will also graduate. She clearly wants out.

>>74372386
Yeah Vivi and Kunai can't sing for shit. I can see Claude's ass being mad about it, but idc.

>>74372503
It sounds a bit like Los!Los!Los!. I kinda dig it, but not really.

>>74374166
Selen couldnt sing as well but she still tried?Why cant they just try?

>>74370385
Why do all their senpais steal the limelight when it comes to TTT. They treat them like they cant do anything right while giving them no opportunities to improve themselves. They are stuck in a fish tank.

>>74374063
She is stuck there for 2 years

>>74374259
selen didn't know she could FUCKING ASK

>>74374259
Blackout was fucking banger and none of obsidya can actually sing.

>>74374166
If selen can do it they have no excuse lmao. And its not like its karaoke you can do a lot with tuning and mixing to make someone sound decent enough.

>>74372744
don't taint Betty Spaghetty's name like that, she may be a dead product but even she can do better than Niji

>>74370168
>Vocal: @EnnaAlouette & @MariaMari0nette
guys listen, they ArEnT iDoLs, sInGinG iS NOT aN oBliGaTIoN

>>74372386
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Even if TTT are bad at singing, shouldn’t they still TRY to sing it for the remaining fans they got?

>>74375556
You’d think so, but here >we are.

>>74375556
The easiest explanation is that someone fucked up the original schedule and there wasn't just enough time to get everyone together and do the song, so they asked other organs for help just to have something ready for the debut

>>74375956
But do they need to be in the same location at the same time?

>>74375956
>>74376081
This. It's not like they're doing some We Are the World thing, and they always overproduce their shit, so just record individually, autotune it, mix it and ship it. Unless kurosanji doesn't even want to do that much.

>>74376081
Zaion mentioned that for XSOLEIL's debut song, she recorded her part on her own and sent the file. However, she had to do multiple takes and ask a friend for help to clean up the final file because Nijisanji couldn't handle it themselves. If Vivi or Kunai aren't used to singing and the debut was rushed, it's entirely possible that they were simply unable to record their part properly on time
>>74376344
>Unless kurosanji doesn't even want to do that much.
That's probably what happened

Meanwhile Hololive EN promise still doesnt have an og group song. And no the opening song from naruto isnt their group song

>>74377227
>what about Holo
Rent free

>>74377227
>but what about hololive
I dont give a fuck about hololive
Why is Enna singing a group song for a wave she doesn't belong in
Its a Enna song with TTT pictures slapped on to it for some reason

>>74377955
Anon they are a big happy family and families share and help eachother!

>>74370168
another fucking L from nijisanji en, at this point they have to be doing it on purpose

>Fans got cucked of their own theme song
This is not funny anymore

>>74378777
>nijifags
>fans of anything but the corpo
lel

>>74372223
Krisis was all boys though, so they get treated like NijiEN royalty.

>>74374513
Petra can sound pretty good with some songs I think.

>>74370168
Fucking Luxiem even sang theory own theme and I'm pretty sure Ike is the only one who could sing.

>>74370168
>>74372386
Guess their budget's too low now to hire an editor to deal with people who can't sing.

>>74372386
i already knew this was the excuse months ago but it's still dumbest shit i've heard

>>74379637
consider they took 6 months to slap together an MV that's probably just going to be some character PNGs

>>74379395
He probably coached the others into sounding good.

>>74372386
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYNYhSsR8EE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYNYhSsR8EE

Meanwhile

>>74370168

>>74370168
What is TTT?
Tokoyami Towa Tower?

>>74382659
It's Pekora's TTT, nijiniggers tried to steal it to promote their latest en wave but nobody cares.

>>74373103
>Musa Linni
Finally a canon reason for a vtuber to debut upside down and with their feet first.

>>74370168
A wave's theme song....not sang by ANY member of the wave ?

Holy fucking shit Niji will never cease to amaze me

>>74382659
I think it's Triple Troublemakers in something or other. Their wave name is actually a pun on obsenely long LN titles that then get a shorthand, like Bofuri. They also made it up themselves, because again management does not care about them at all.

>>74370168
I was lurking in the threads that eventually became the GURrat and at one point the jannies were deleting them on site, so someone created one masquerading as a TTT general. It was quite sad seeing the few dozen fans being quite happy that there was enough interest in them to finally have their own general, only for it to suddenly dawn on them that anons weren't actually discussing them.

>>74370168
Sooo...TTT is so forgotten they had their half anniversary done by someone else?
Jesus this is an humiliation ritual.

>>74386254
More like they fucked up their debut so much that they had to hire someone else to sing their song, and then the company completely forgot about the wave until they remembered they had to celebrate their half anniversary and it was already too late to record the song again.

>>74372386
Maybe...don't do a song? Just saying? Or don't hire people who can't sing just to accellerate?
Sounds to me like they are still being royally fucked as the half-anniversary is just another cover for Enna and they have to sit down and clap like good 2views.
You couldn't pay me to be humiliated this badly.

>>74383861
TTT isnt even the latest wave... its Krisis

>>74384979
At this point I don't believe TTT has more than maybe a dozen fans on /vt/. All you ever hear about them is
>justfuckingask.bmp
>poor vivi's oshis left/she's a faker
>kunai has half of her old subs and 1/5th the viewer count

The strangest cope I have read so far is some sisters comparing it to an anime OP
>You don't expect the seiyuus to sing the main theme for the series, so why is this any different?

>>74386735
The funny thing is I have a hard time thinking of animes where the seiyuus don't sing either an OP, ED, or insert song.

>>74372159
Management negligence and incompetence.
Fucking hell Vivi and Kunai didn't deserve this.

>>74372386
"burdened"
what the fuck
When Selen couldn't sing, they gave her a rap instead. Black Out was phenomenal.

I don't get why people here are even mad about this. The Male heroes waves (including Krisis) had their song sang by Kaede and Ren of all people and I'm pretty sure a good chunk of them can sing.

>>74387674
>mad
Not really, we are just calling it out because it's weird as fuck.
> The Male heroes waves (including Krisis) had their song sang by Kaede and Ren
And this doesn't make it any better

>>74387674
>The Male heroes waves (including Krisis) had their song sang by Kaede and Ren
That's also dumb

>>74387564
>Black Out was phenomenal.
I would not say it's a good song by quite possibly any definition of the word, but you're right that you can have someone who cant sing and turn them into someone who can with a lot of editing. It's not like niji's never done this either, there's plenty of people in JP who started trash and are now really good.
>>74387674
>The Male heroes waves (including Krisis) had their song sang by Kaede and Ren of all people
People here don't even give a shit about Krisis, you expect them to care about Oriens or Dytica?

>>74384600
>triple troublemakers
Isn't that 2 Ts?

>>74388018
>I would not say it's a good song by quite possibly any definition of the word
My oshi sang in it, so by definition I think it's phenomenal. Yes I'm biased. No I don't care.

>>74388202
These Three Troublemakers iirc.

>>74372744
Dude, I would kill for an Italian chuuba named Betty Spaghetti...

>>74388296
oh that makes more sense
Still kind of a mid name

>>74388237
Based.

>>74388237
You know what? I respect that.

>>74386623
Krisis debuted before them.
It's ok tho I didn't know Xsoloeil or Krisis debuted and I only know about TTT because of their disastrous debut video

>>74387404
Not really, they aren't that common unless you only watch Symphogay or Monogatari. Think Code Gayass or Log Horizon OP/EDs.

>>74389769
I'm surprised you missed the massive dunkfest on "Have you tried bondage? Ooops I meant to say Bandage"

>>74389769
I'm surprised you missed Wilson's plagiarism scandal, but thenagain most people did considering nobody remembers he exists.

>>74390190
It's about 50/50, if we're talking all the 2000s and early 2010s. At least giving them a random one-off insert in an episode. Shit, every CGDCT show has one. Most of those generic harem series... Thing is all the VA companies and production committees saw what was happening with Megumi Hayashibara in the 90s and wanted in on that game, often for the worse.

>>74377227
they do though, well, council does

>>74389769
Why does Niji have shit marketing? They're the second biggest corpo in the industry but their recent "livers" are literal whos to most people in the community. I could name small corpo vtubers I don't follow because I've either seen ads of them or they were promoted/shilled by the company, but somehow I just found there's a guy named Yu Q. Wilson in Niji some weeks ago when he got dunked on by the community notes.

>>74375034
This is funny when you realize half of HoloEN can't even sing.

>>74392093
It's their business strategy. Run the org itself on as few resources as possible, they're not going to bust for a marketing team to actually promote new waves. Give new vtubers nothing more than the absolute minimum investment and throw them out there to sink or swim. If they sink, you only lost about 10k (minus whatever you can skim off them in 2 years). If they can swim, you get to pocket a lot of the profits. It worked in 2020 and 2021, but now the scene is so saturated and they never adjusted to handle that, therefore recent waves are literally whos

>>74374166
>Selen couldn't sing for shit
>Nina couldn't sing for shit, now she can
>Vox and Mysta couldn't sing for shit
>Fulgur couldn't sing for shit, now he can
>Kyo, Scarle, Aster and Aia couldn't sing for shit

>>74388675
I get that the talents came up with it themselves, so it's hard to blame them, but come on. When I hear These Three Troublemakers, I think of Robbie Rotten, not a paladin, ninja, and whatever the hell Claude is.

>>74392430
Well, their strategy is shit and not only do they deserve their downfall if they double down on it, they should also be shamed by everyone else

>>74388237
Unfathomably based

>>74392665
I think they've also said "Three Troublesome Travelers" or something like that, on the Japanese niji wiki they're just listed as "TTT" and "Triple-T" and those fags seem pretty autistic about logging everything

>>74389769
>You missed the Krisis leaks
That's surprising.

>>74392665
>Paladin, Ninja, and whatever the hell Claude is
Seems like a standard party in an RPGM hentai kusoge kek

>>74389769
It was a masterpiece, a modern classic
https://youtu.be/as9Fgn31pkA

>>74377227
IRyS gave up on original music, stop bothering her about it.

>>74372386
>singing your own song
kek what a burden, they must be so reliefed

>>74370168
>ttt's theme song
kek

>>74392093
>Yu Q
More like Who Q.

enna singing will definitely be a big bonus for TTT, now TTT fans got aloupeeps to support them from the background. its a clever tactics by management to boost the views, just to ensure this won't be a flop below 200k views level.

>>74372386
So we went from Diamond City Lights Kino to three assholes who dont even wanna sing their own theme song.
Fuck them, they deserve their low views for being such lazy cunts. At least other talents fucking try but they actually couldn't be bothered to just have fun and go with it.

>>74394507
I haven't seen anything from TTT until now. Why do their voice lines sound like that...? If they sound that low quality and stifled they should have just left it out and used their debuts as the voice reveal. There's no way this went through a quality check. I know they're streamers, not voice actors, but holy shit...

>>74391832
Depends on the genre. For stuff where the characters are in a band/idol group or something, it's common, yes, but for shounen anime you're not going to see it all that often.

Everyone talks about Vivi but The girls on the rights design is pretty hot. I could literally never catch a stream tho then the nijiyabs burned me out.

>>74370168
I will never understand why the first gen of NijiEn wanted to be hololive idols so bad. It felt like they never understood what nijisanji was about.

>The Nijisis posts are basiclaly fuck yous and Ennashizos raghe ryhan supporting them.
Grim, not even the Sis give a fuck if they die.

>>74401773
Most shounen battle anime, sure. But rom coms, comedies, heck even sports anime in shounen mags, still have a reasonable chance. But now that I think about it, the sports anime that came to mind was Ping Pong and that's in a seinen mag (Wenge's karaoke scene)

>>74394507

>>74402754
There's a decent percentage - higher in some genres and lower in others, but not enough that someone would naturally just expect every anime to have a seiyuu singing a song for it.

>>74404422
True. Depends on the seiyuu as well
If you have:
>Nana Mizuki
>Megumi Hayashibara
>Marina Inoue
>Minoru Shiraishi (I wish)
Why not make use of it.

>>74370168
They never had to

>>74373103
Already taken

>>74394507
The cleric: If you want heals you could always just fucking ask

>>74374326
The same thing happened with Krisis. They didn't have a debut song and I think it was mostly JPs that sang their song when it was released.
>>74399899
I wouldn't be surprised if Claude would have wanted to sing it, but yeah Niji management further dropping the ball. There should be debut songs and the members should participate regardless of their singing prowess.

>>74394507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a09YaDIEj5o
>I was so busy, I just found out... we have a new wave debuting... like this morning when I woke up... When are they coming out? ...Tomorrow? I'm such a good Niji member...

>>74373194
It's so nijisanji can say they are supporting their newer talents without actually risking their precious money

>>74382659
Trouble in terrorist town

>>74387674
Because shitting on nijisanji is how we get our laughs, and oh boy they keep giving us stuff to shit on them for

>>74372548
>Why even call it the TTT theme song if they don't sing the actual song?
The same fucking reason most Anime and cartoon theme songs with lyrics aren't sung by the fucking characters or even seiyuu you reprobate.

>>74392093
They've gotten too used to being in Japan where they can fart and get a dozen blog posts about it and failed to realize that they don't have that level of mindshare overseas and need to actually work for publicity

>>74370168
Oh boy, the new wave can't carry their own weight huh. Or they think they could always just fucking ask.

>>74402047
Because hololive is the only pathway to success and the current state of nijisanji is the result of them deviating from the one true path

>>74413916
>>74386735
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

>>74413916
every wave prior to krisis sung their own theme song. Why stop?
Clearly it's a cost cutting measure since they didn't even bother to advertise TTT.

>>74414486
sisters just making themselves look stupid...

>>74370168
Wait what? They're just backup vocals for the trio singing the main song, right? Otherwise this just osunds like an original song repurposed into a wholly unrelated theme for another group.

>>74372386
Selen and rosemi suck at singing yet they did blackout.

Reminder that Alban said himself that he hated singing before joining Niji but he sung anyways and has gotten better. What are these fuckers excuse?

>>74418612
Yeah, anon, about that...

>>74402047
Do you people realise that Nijisanji have been doing the whole big concert thing for just as long as Hololive? Niji JP has more members signed to record labels than Holo JP does, they may claim they don't do idol shit but they definitely do music shit.

>>74420385
Shh don't tell them that that'll ruin their cope

>>74420385
Not in EN they don't. Or in KR. Or ID.

>>74372025
>"stressed to sing their own theme song"
LMAO

>>74374063
>She clearly wants out.
What's her deal anyway? I/ve heard a lot of rumors about her but I don't know what she's actually said.

>>74424399
Alot of it is just wishful thinking by rosefags but it is true that she's been streaming less and less recently

>>74424478
I meant Vivi, actually. I know a lot about Rose's case, although I can't say that I'm convinced one way or another. It would definitely be better if she did leave, thouguh.

>>74424881
Vivi seems to have fully bought into the nijisanji Kool aid so if shes jumping ship it probably won't be very soon. Plus, you know, early contract termination penalties

They're not singing their own song????? What?????

>>74413916
Even then, many anime still get character song albums where the seiyuu sing songs although they are not used in the show itself.

>>74370168
How long until they get new outfits?

>>74431303
about 2 months

>>74374063
Wosemi is going to the sad girl company. As for Vivi she made her own mess. I bet you she had people telling her not to sign up and she ignored them.

Sisters trying to defend getting someone else to sing TTT' own theme song is pretty telling of how little they care about the talents. If I were a fan of Kunai, why would I give a damn about this song? I don't care about the brand, I only want to support my oshi and see them doing their best.

And it's not like this will even bring more viewers to TTT or the other waves that did the same thing. Those who like the song will want to check out the people who actually worked on it.

>>74420385
That isn't what I said, they came in with the same game plan as holoen playing with the idol aestic instead of the more trendy group of 20 somethings that niji had with a more diverse group.
It was stupid even if it worked for a while.

>>74432061
It WOULD have worked if the management wasn't retarded and tribal and actually let them leech off Holo in 2021 back when both fanbases were desperately asking for it.

>>74372386
Delicious, delicious copium

>>74432114
>management
You mean
>butthurt Elira always getting compared to Myth

>>74372386
What kinda cope

>>74424881
Rosemi is planning to leave, she had projects and music songs in her draft. Wosemi will never leave unless her oshi graduates or loss game shill

>>74392665
>Robbie Rotten's cadence in a streamer
Fuck that sounds hilarious

>>74414493
Iluna kind of made it apparent they weren't getting singers anymore. Mari and Ren were good singers but the rest not so much, so it's less "cost saving" and more:
>"...Why don't we let the people who can actually sing do the theme songs?"
>>74414993
>Makes themselves look stupid
>Actual logic was used
Ah /vt/ never changes.
>>74426596
Precisely, the comparison has to take into consideration when it comes to Vtubing, this would be their own covers/originals.

>>74437860
>"...Why don't we let the people who can actually sing do the theme songs?"
What the fuck is the point of the theme song then? Obsydia couldn't sing and they made it work.

>>74372744
betty spaghetti has the same obvious parody energy as coni confetti but somehow that one's real

>>74370168

>>74371900
YOU WILL LOVE ETHYRIA

>>74432663
Elira may be a butthurt jealous bitch, but there's no way she became a de facto ad hoc manager of EN instantly.

>>74437860
>"...Why don't we let the people who can actually sing do the theme songs?"
What's the fucking point of having a wave theme then? Just give the song to Enna. Vtuber fans don't care about perfect performances, they want to support their oshis. I swear, sisters are fucking retarded.

>>74370385
eyyyyy