/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

So where do we go from now?

>>74355422
based OP, if only i could've listened to their reactions reading this for the first time

>>74355521
Be a man and take the ones that are giga minty or just use tooth powder.

Or be like Marine~ and take the special flavored cherry macaron one.

Or you could be like my Mom and use the coal flavored one.

>>74355422
I bless this thread with the power of jong

Sex with demon dogs

>>74355422
>>Merch
>[...] (Mococo)
>[...] (Fuwawa)
:(

>>74355678
thanks pero

>>74355612
Personally I'm hyped for Friday and the Koyo collabs and I'm also looking forward to the RnR and hopefully next week will be mostly collabs with JP holos and not just a bunch of solo JP streams.

>>74355672
I can't stand mint. I have a strawberry flavored one and a bubblegum flavored one. Brushing my teeth tastes yummy.

>>74355720
Next week is going to be 7 days of Koyori collabs because they're locked in her basement.

>>74355679
GLASSES MOGOtYAN IS SO CUUUUUTTTEEE SO PRETTTYYYY

>>74355763
Calm down fuwawa.

>>74355679
I'm gonna kiss this princess

>>74355743
Sounds good, someone has to lick their pussies and if it can't be me then it should be a cute lesbian holoJP hag

>>74355795

>>74355813
>someone has to lick their pussies
They lick each other's pussies, Joshukun. Koyo is their friend and they aren't whores

>>74355763
I wonder who could have posted this?

how do we get FuwaMoco interviewed by the largest video game site in Japan. https://twitter.com/momosuzunene/status/1783023262903226428

I just wanted the HoloJP experience but in English and that's stream at reasonable times. Dedicated girls who don't shit on their fans or take them for granted. Think girls like Miko or Pekora. Why is that so hard...?

>>74355499
>Take me back bros
Honestly, it makes me sad that we'll more than likely never again get schedules that packed.
I always knew things would slow down, but still.

why is my dick so hard?

>>74356008

>>74355984
>the HoloJP experience but in English
Impossible. FuwaMoco are hyper-otaku who grew up in the NW Passage. Not a single JP girl is this. Its a unique experience that you can ONLY find over here.
A person born and raised in Japan can not be an otaku-weeb obsessed with Japan.

>>74355984
anon, the holojp experience would mean speaking in jp

Finally watched the VOD. Every single one of you including Mococo overreacted to this.

>>74355612
Just chill out and enjoy the few streams we have until the RnR party. After that, who knows?
Personally, I'm looking forward to blockgame.

I'm never doing my reps, I refuse, my EOP princess doesn't want to put that stress on me. I will wait until the storm passes, I will wait until the clouds disappear. Everything will be ok, I believe.

>>74355678
Mahjong Soul collab when

>>74355986
Probably not quite /that/ packed, but they mentioned wanting to make times like Christmas and New Years' pretty special events so I wouldn't be surprised if we see something similar this year.

>>74356087
>A person born and raised in Japan can not be an otaku-weeb obsessed with Japan.
what are you on about, you're saying there are not otaku in japan?

>>74356155
>including Mococo
You're also ignoring that Fuwawa was in tears for 90% of it.
Also we don't know how GW will look. If the entire week is 100% in JP, then I'd say no one overreacted. Not even FuwaMoco.

shut up already

>>74356008
https://files.catbox.moe/6c8to3.mp3

>>74356206
Next week, that's what they're preparing us for.

>>74356272
They already said golden week is special and a one off. That's fine. There will be a lot of special streams from hololive and holoJPs and of course FuwaMoco will want to participate in as many as they can. That would be great for their visibility too.

More interesting than that is what it'll look like in the weeks after.

>>74356336
holy fluffy sex

>>74356230
>you're saying there are not otaku in japan?
Yes. I'm saying a Japanese person cannot be a westerner so obsessed with Japan they deny the Rape of Nanking. Sure a JP person could deny what happened in Nanking, but that would make them a nationalist(and based).
For a western person, this would make them a Japanophile. A Japanese person cannot be a "Japanophile."

>>74356405
>Sure a JP person could deny what happened in Nanking, but that would make them a nationalist(and based).

>>74356405
anon, otaku =/= weeb
there are many otaku in japan

>>74356405
>Sure a JP person could deny what happened in Nanking, but that would make them a nationalist(and based).

>>74356373
>They already said golden week is special and a one off. That's fine.
I agree, I'm simply saying THEIR exceptionally worried reaction isn't an overreaction cause they're nervous about OUR reaction, and they feel bad about going back on a few things they've said.
How some Ruffians reacted is warranted due to FWMC being very vague and depressed about the whole thing, plus potentially streaming 100% in JP for an entire week(which was an impossibility 3 or 4 months ago, and something they never would have done early on)

Basically, no one really "overreacted," imo.

>>74356451
Don't post this VCReceleb onahole here

>>74356492
No. I disagree with your description because I want to be correct.

>>74356405
>nationalist
they're called Patriots

>>74356405
weird nuance to be latched onto, as the result is the same: they are both interested in the same things

>>74356617
Aren't nationalists and patriots pretty much the same thing?

>>74356155
Yep. This is the most laughable "betrayal" I've ever seen. Ruffians live in a world of pillowy clouds and cotton candy.

>>74356567

>>74356563
They overreacted to their own announcement.
Oh no golden week will be in JP and they'll do a lot of special streams and be in many events. It's the end of the world...

Seriously, they made it way worse by presenting this as though it was a breakup with ruffians or something. Mococo suddenly tearing up and going all "it's fine if you leave us over this, we understand..."
They are crazy and if they had just announced it normally it wouldn't have resulted in even 20% of this.

>>74356666
With how hard FuwaMoco cried, and how they spent two hours pretty much apologizing, I'd say they themselves treated it like a fucking betrayal.

please be patient with my wives

>>74356647
Are you a Son of the Nationalists?

I explained ChatGPT the situation and this is what I got:

(1. and 2. are just the replies to me explaining FuwaMoco to chatGPT)

1.
I understand the introduction you've provided about Fuwawa and Mococo, the twin VTubers from the Hololive English branch, also known collectively as FuwaMoco. They share a YouTube channel, have a strong emotional connection with their fans, and primarily produce content in English, though they also speak Japanese fluently and occasionally host streams in Japanese. They are particularly fond of Japanese culture and media, which they enjoy discussing with their fans.

2.
FuwaMoco, being part of the English-speaking branch of Hololive, have primarily engaged with their English-speaking audience. Their commitment to balancing their Japanese streams with English ones to avoid alienating their primary fanbase shows a considerate approach to content creation, catering to both language groups while recognizing the concerns of their core fans about the potential shift in language focus. This setup has helped them maintain a loyal and engaged audience.


3. The current situation outlines a complex emotional and logistical challenge for FuwaMoco and their fans. The move to Japan understandably triggered concerns among their primarily English-speaking audience about a potential shift in the focus of their content and streaming schedules to favor Japanese viewers. Despite assurances from FuwaMoco that their content and identity would remain consistent, their recent announcement to focus more on Japanese content has caused significant distress and feelings of betrayal among their fans.

Here are some factors and potential approaches for navigating this situation:

-Communication and Transparency: Continuing to communicate openly and transparently can help rebuild trust. FuwaMoco could benefit from sharing more about their reasons for wanting to produce more Japanese content, possibly related to their recent move and a desire to connect with the local culture. Understanding the motivations behind the change might help some fans feel more connected to the decision process.

-Balanced Content Strategy: They could consider maintaining a balanced content schedule that includes a consistent number of English streams. This strategy would help reassure their English-speaking fans that they remain a priority. They could even involve their audience in deciding how this balance should look through polls or feedback sessions.

- Scheduled Time Zones: Addressing concerns about streaming times due to the timezone differences is crucial. FuwaMoco could schedule streams at times that are feasible for both English and Japanese audiences, or perhaps alternate the timing so everyone has a chance to watch live occasionally.

-Fan Engagement and Inclusion: To alleviate feelings of alienation, they could implement segments within their streams that are bilingual or include subtitles, ensuring all fans feel included regardless of the primary language of the stream.
Regular Updates and Fan Q&A Sessions: Hosting regular Q&A sessions where fans can voice their concerns and get immediate responses might help alleviate some of the anxieties surrounding the changes. It could also strengthen the community feeling by showing that FuwaMoco values their fans' opinions.

-Emotional Support and Community Building: Finally, encouraging a supportive community culture is essential. Reminding fans to support each other and fostering discussions that bridge the language divide could enhance mutual understanding and empathy within the fanbase
.
Addressing these issues with a thoughtful and inclusive approach will be key for FuwaMoco to maintain their diverse fanbase while adapting to their new life in Japan.

>>74356695
Yeah, the way they handled it definitely made it worse. And they were so emotional that they were unable to be clear about anything at all.
Like you said, they presented the whole thing like a fucking breakup. Not only that, but they treated both GW and future JP streams as if they were purely for subs and nothing more.

>>74356850
holy based AI

>>74356850
>Hosting regular Q&A sessions where fans can voice their concerns and get immediate responses might help alleviate some of the anxieties surrounding the changes. It could also strengthen the community feeling by showing that FuwaMoco values their fans' opinions.
this but make it a marshmallow Q&A

>>74356850
ChatGPT should be their new mane-chan

>>74356850
> oh boy I love AI! Now I don't have to use my own brain to process my thoughts and feeling about something, I can let a machine do it!
The world is fucking cooked man

>>74356948
They'll finally answer whether they have sex with each other or not

>>74356991
most of the posts in these threads are ai generated

>>74356869
>Not only that, but they treated both GW and future JP streams as if they were purely for subs and nothing more.
I think that was their way to ask for some leniency

If they aren't going to address things in a mengen post, they should do a guerilla mengen stream and talk about the concerns while also PROPERLY addressing their future
retarded and won't happen, I know. I doubt they'll even address the comments at all until maybe after GW...

>>74356850
>Transparency
This is their Achilles heel. They are some of the most opaque vtubers I've watched.

>>74356695
The jpschizos got to her, and their unexpected hiatus made them feel even worse. They're clearly /here/ more than anything.
FUWAMOCO, THE JPSCHIZO LAST THREAD SAID HE WOULD RATHER WATCH MALES THAN JP CONTENT. THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO GET FILTERED BY JP. REMEMBER THAT.

>>74356850
no love for roboscum, death to all robots and robot apologists sorry roboco

>>74357049
I literally echo all of his thoughts, yet I'd rather they literally transfer to HoloJP than so much as glance at one of the homos

I for one welcome more Japanese streams and I'm excited to spend more time with my wives during Golden Week in both Japanese and English in chat.

>>74357051
Me and my robot girlfriend for $50 bucks in 5 years when you need to spend $100 to be read by Fuwamoco

>>74357099
This, except replace Japanese Streams with Indonesian streams

If they had been cheerful and positive and said the following, think about how different everything would have been:
>"Ruffians! So Golden Week is coming up, right? Are you familiar with it? A lot of our JP senpai here will be doing special events and collaborations for it, so this will be a very unusual week for us to. We'd like to take part in a lot of these, so please come see us, it'll be fun! We'll also do some extra streams in Japanese here and there to celebrate not just Golden Week, but give more JPniki a chance to learn about us!"
>"There is however a lot of homework that has piled up on our desks, we weren't able to do much during the quest for our doggy house, so please understand if weeks ahead might be a bit lighter here and there, we'll still try to do our best and spend time with you of course!"
>"A lot of great stuff is happening and we're very excited for it, we know you'll love it too Ruffians, you'll see soon okay?"

>>74357049
>THE JPSCHIZO LAST THREAD SAID HE WOULD RATHER WATCH MALES THAN JP CONTENT.
Yeah that guy has it wrong, I would not watch either because they're both trash

>>74355462
This is literally how everyone feels and what people have been saying. If they have a packed schedules and JP streams are extra, that's a bonus. However as they get busier they will not be able to do packed schedules and any JP streams will take the place of EN ones.

>>74357142
People would have still felt a bit cloudy. It's really the timing. We haven't had a full week of "normal" Fuwamoco since their move and that's souring everyone.

Where can I find Fuwamoco NTR porn? I want to jerk off to it while thinking of the JPs stealing them from us

>>74357051
but the persocoms...

>>74357142
Yeah it probably would have gone over better if they worded it like this. There would still be some menhera over GW being pretty much entirely JP, though. There's no way around that since it kinda does run contrary to things they've said in the past about JP streams.

Unfortunately, they're in their own heads about it and genuienly care so much about all of their fans that the thought of someone feeling left out brings them to tears.

>>74357158
Schizos will *always* claim any JP stream that happens would have been an EN stream otherwise, anon. They'll never let you treat it as a bonus.

>>74357227
Don't worry I'm commissioning a bunch for golden week

All the menheraposting made me forget we have Koyori sex in 3 days

>>74357099
Their JP interactions are pure kino. The dynamic is unlike anything else. Obviously I still want them primarily EN, but EN collabs can't provide that unique experience. I WILL go postal if beggars take it away from me entirely.

>>74357227
How would that make sense though? They have smaller cocks than us?

>>/vt/thread/74189101#p74195290
You guys did not disappoint

>>74357294
Not true. If there's a JP stream in the morning, then one at night (NA persepective) then it doesn't look like any streams were replaced.
This was literally the reaction to the takoyaki stream. People went menhera caue there was no stream later, then they added another stream later in the day, and everyone was fine.
This is how it's always been.

>>74357306
If you become assistant-kun, you can have sex right now

>>74356850
>Fucking ChatGPT has better ideas than Mane-chan
That doesn't look good

>>74357360
>small white cock
:|
>small japanese cock
:O
get cucked by the japanese

>>74357372
kek

>>74357306
I will literally leave work at noon on Friday just so I can catch it. Very excited for them singing with Koyori.
I hope Koyori picks an enka song too, she likes those.

>>74357158
Yeah nah. The whining has put a damper on JP streams in general, and could very well affect FWMC's mood and interactions in collabs. These vermin are culture destroyers.

>>74356850
>Regular Q&A to gauge the fans concerns and expectations
I wish they were this transparent.

>>74357437
>It begins
>it's over
kek

>>74357391
See?
You're saying even if in that week they have 20 EN streams, you'll still seething if there's a day where there's a JP stream and nothing else
FWMC Morning? Nuh-uh, doesn't count
Ain't ever gonna be satisfied with your own idiosyncrasy.

JP Duckbro with the facts

ブアブア

>>74357605
what about that guy who said fuwawa is small fry pussy

>>74357605
kek, he's right. What's gonna happen to all the JP Ruffians that join after Golden Week? I want FWMC to talk about this.

>>74357627
I want to suck on Korosan's big floofies

>>74357659
Small fry pussy jap is more concerned with Watame and cooming

>>74357464
Unfortunately, they kinda did it to themselves by not fully committing to their initial "occasional JP streams, and JP collabs fully in JP."
They screwed themselves by saying JP streams would never replace EN streams.
They screwed themselves trying to translate for JP collabs to include their fans.
They screwed themselves by stopping JP solos almost entirely for a while.
They screwed themselves by promising no changes(though mogogo tried to backtrack).
and they screwed themselves by saying they didn't want to do spaces due to some Ruffians feeling left out.
All of these things made many Ruffians assume things would be one way forever. Not only that, they REASSURED Ruffians of this as well. They know all this too, it's one of the reasons they were so fucking devastated and acted like the whole thing was a fucking breakup.
The menheraschizo posting is obnoxious, but it's a result of them NOT committing to the things they initially wanted to do. Ripping off the bandaid now hurts a hell of a lot more for them and their fans than it would have if they ripped it off many moons ago.

>>74357730
what is this double ntr scenario

>>74357605
He's buying into the melodrama because he doesn't know better. He's not familiar with western drama queens.
It's not a big decision. All bilingual holos do this shit. Wow they're maybe doing it slightly more for the occasion, stop the fucking presses. You're all women.

>>74357596
I mean I'd be fucking impressed if they stream in EN 20 times(1hr min) and manage to have one day where there's only a single JP stream with no EN stream for 24 hrs.
What the fuck would that week even look like?

>>74357854
>It's not a big decision
FuwaMoco seem to think so.

>>74357854
retard

>>74357798
Whatever, it was a fun ride FuwaMoco but I'm out. Maybe I can finally check out the other Advent members. I'll be seeing ya around, /baubau/

>>74357940
They’re menhera and also women who give into their emotions more than they think things through rationally.

>>74357806
hot
fuwawa cucks the JOPs
mococo cucks the EOPs
double cucked

>>74357605
Fucking based westaboo duckchad

>>74357902
And now you add that streams doesn't count as streams if it's less than 1 hour.
Just pile up more of your idiosyncrasy, anon.
>What the fuck would that week even look like?
Imagine NY but happens mid-week.

>>74357798
>"occasional JP streams, and JP collabs fully in JP."
But that's exactly what they're doing. They didn't expect the long move or the amount of homework. And no, none of this excuses "ruffians" acting like bitches over any JP streams despite their claim that it's only about replaced streams or whatever.
Getting hard filtered by JP in this fucking hobby of all things and dampening kino collabs over it is inexcusable.

>>74357902
By your logic, Takoyaki Party shouldn't even counts as a stream and thus can't possibly replace a stream.

>>74358029
>that streams doesn't count as streams if it's less than 1 hour.
Nah, I'm saying 1hr min cause that's the time they try to hit for all their non FWMC morning streams.
With this new knowledge, simply reread my post.

Dint make the same mistake I did.
I tried watching the Cinderella princess clip again and my brain automatically assumed the worse and ruined it. I'm not watching it again until this all passes

>>74358082
See >>74358088
Ir qasnt meant to be a "requirement" just telling you the length they usually try to hit. Stop being autistic

>>74357806
The result of not thinking and just jamming

>>74358111
What?

>>74358111
haeh

>>74358088
>that's the time they try to hit for all their non FWMC morning streams.
I'm not aware you're a fucking mindreader, I'm sorry Mr. Xavier.

>>74358046
>But that's exactly what they're doing.
Yes I know. Reread my post, I'm saying they STOPPED doing that for months and now theyre finally planning on doing this again. they barely did ANY JP solo streams, and they tried to translate and do gimmicky EN things to include their EN audience.
I'm saying it was a mistake, and they should have kept up what they initially wanted to do.

>>74358124
So that means takoyaki party is a failure and doesn't even count as a stream, rite?

>>74358111
Explain yourself

>>74358191
Stop arguing and go to bed. You're clearly to mad to think rationally like me

Hanzla submission incoming for the morning show

>>74358111
Are you talking about when they said we made them feel like cinderellas?

>>74358262
Who?

>>74358225
Yes, obviously. Now stop arguing for the sake of arguing

>>74358111
You assumed she wasn't a actually a princess?

>>74358235
I'm sorry I didn't keep up with all your idiosyncrasy that you hold them up to yet refuses to elaborates.

>>74358262
Old news

>>74357806
Is this how women in a harem feels?

>>74358146
>>74358176
>>74358227
>>74358271
>>74358289
I listened to it again recently, and I know what he's referring to... He means if you listen closely you can hear Mococo accidentally fart, and fuwawa giggles a bit in response

>>74358279
That means you can't use your standard to judge a stream, and by extension, a schedule, until after it's done because dunno, they might be a failure.
Easy.

>>74358146
>>74358176
>>74358227
Reading these threads this week corrupted my mind so when she said
>we feel like cindarellas
>It's all because of you wuffians!
I thought immediately about her abandoning us and whether it was already in her mind

It's not true or healthy, but you fuckera are ruining even past content. Why do I read posts here and let it infect my mind? I know it's just shitposts but it still impacts my thinking, apparently.

>>74357806
Yes, we went over this already. They cucked us for the JOPs during the first JP stream, and then when the JOPs fell in love, they cucked them for us.

God you're such fucking women. You're supposed to be strong for FuwaMoco, not assuming the worst about everything, not making them feel worse when they're trying their best. Shameful display.

>>74358394
Meds. Now.

They got way too emotional. Mococo was bawling her eyes out to say "We understand if you leave us" which instantly stunned and confused me into thinking that I should be considering leaving... when they didn't even explain shit about what was actually changing

>>74358394
now this is taking it too far

>>74358424
This is why they will be driven into the arms of the samurai

>>74358394
You might need a break from the threads if that's where your head is going right now

>>74358450
Pero's coming back

>>74358394
meds. Others are pretending but you are truly schizophrenic

>>74358463
Yeah, mine.

>>74358424
A real man is strong and lets his wife know when she's making a really dumb decision, which runs contrary to things she's said and promised.
I am the their TRUE husband who WILL hold their feet to the fire so that they stay true to themselves.

>>74358450
Yes that's how women are, especially ones who care. They took the jp schizophrenia to heart. You're supposed to calm them when they're overreacting, not actually leave.

>>74358505
A real man doesn't let his wife make decisions

>>74358424
They would love us if we were Femruffians

>>74358470
AAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

>>74358523
A real man doesn't let his wife wear clothing

>>74358523
Holy based

>>74358424
I'm just waiting for the koyori collab and minecraft. Why must it be such a long wait...

>>74358523
I kneel

>>74358537
A real man can handle two Mococos

>>74358470
Ew. I'd rather they transfer to fucking HoloJP if it meant NEVER seeing p*ro again

>>74358523
BAUSED

>>74358505
I want to hold their feet, too.

>>74358575
Yup, that’s me

>>74358578
Don't you miss me, Rufferan? What about everything we shared?

>>74358575
Those two Mococos? Mine
Realistically though, the menhera power of two Mococos would destroy any guy

>>74358603
Sorry, I'm their husband so their stinky feet are mine

>>74358505
But it's not a dumb decision, it's just something you're personally butthurt about for petty, selfish reasons

She’s coming

>>74358671
and so am I

>>74355422
Onii-chan true story

Rifu W!

>>74358671
no sleepover though...

>>74358505
You are a needy little baby with baby tastes.

Answer me this: is it ruffians who are overreacting or was it fuwamoco that made this out to be a much bigger deal than it should have been, thus eliciting the ruffians' response?

>>74356850
I asked my local model and it turned into a fucking anti.

>>74358668
Nah, it's definitely a very dumb decision by every metric.
>bad way to gain subs compared to vertical streams(they confimred they're only really doing it to gain subs)
>makes EN fans feel left out
>goes against their words and promises
>when the week ends and they go back to EN streams, the JP tourists will abandon them like they always do
You really can't deny any of this.

>>74358760
Both. It's a feedback loop. But it started with the JPschizos, ruffian or otherwise.

>>74358701
Yup.
https://twitter.com/azki_vdiva/status/1783044913531338833

>>74358671
SHE WILL BE THE FIRST TO BEAR MY CHILDREN

>>74358756
But please, enough about you.

>>74358760
We don't know for sure until they explain or we see the next two schedules. I think they're the cause though. They basically broke down and cried without giving exact details and everyone started imagining their own worst case scenario and believing it.

>>74358793
No they didn't. They said subs are one of the reasons. You're delusional if you think they don't wanna do Japanese content as well.
>make EN fans feel left out
Speak for yourself, casual. The rest is also cope.

>>74358754
>no sleepover though...
Good. FuwaMoco only have their beds and no guest room, and I doubt they want Koyo to sleep on the floor.
and before you reply with the typical response, NO, they are not whores.

>>74358671
Thanks Koyori. my erection won’t go down now

>>74358803
One of these days he'll get that FuwaMoco thumbnail

>>74358793
I think they're realizing how bad it sounded in the mengen and it's why they aren't bringing it up again yet. If they mention it more, JP fans might see it and the 'numbers plan' and not bother watching knowing it's a number grab. It's a safe bet they don't watch mengen anyways, but a normal clip or post would get translated and shares in JP groups

>>74358769
That doesn't sound like an anti and more like a disgruntled fan

>>74358831
>n-no u
Toddler tier response from a toddler.

>>74358927
They won't clip a member's stream

Everyone posting on the hashtagtp farm likes is pathetic. I'm sorry

>>74358998
That's what I mean. It's why they aren't making a doggy post or acknowledging it in any other stream. They know it's a fuckup.

Their Japanese is literal babyspeak. If you’ve consumed enough Japanese and have spent most of your lifetime hearing the language then you should be able to understand what they’re saying. Or you could just do your reps since they swallowed their gigaweeb by watching western slop for your sakes, apart from the romance ones Mococo watches on Netflix in her spare time.

>>74358881
>No they didn't.
Yes they did, explicitly. That's the reason they talked about it during the ONE MILLION SUB GOAL. Why do you think they're ramping it up NOW rather than months and months ago? It's cause their deadline is coming up. They also cried every single time someone told them to "be true to themselves," cause they know they aren't right now.
They're doing it for subs
>Speak for yourself, casual.
I'm talking about their fans in general, as per their mengen VOD comments. You know, the place with the MOST hard-core fans? Seems like plenty feel "left out" to me.
>The rest is also cope.
Nope. Watch streams. They made a promise to "never replace EN streams with JP streams."
Streaming almost exclusively in JP next week when they COULD do an EN stream means, yes they are replacing streams.
As I said, you cannot argue with anything I said.

Am I the only native English speaker left?

>>74359052
Japanese media*

>>74359061
so true

Woke up and someone bookmarked my post again. Please stop doing that. I am not in a good mental place even without your games.

>>74359061
>Yes they did, explicitly
post timestamp

God I want to have sex with them both so bad. Fuck this gay earth where picrel isn’t my reality right now.

>>74359061
define replacing streams

>>74358927
Probably? I feel like with the sheer number of comments showing at MINIMUM confusion means they pretty much have to make a post or say something at some point soon.
I have a feeling they're "rehearsing" something so they dont cry again, and they'll say it when they drop their schedule

>>74358769
KEK

>jUsT dO yOuR rEpS
If I had the time to learn a new language I would be watching Miko instead so shut the fuck up you greyname leech faggot

>>74358769
HOLY BAUSED AI

>>74359128
Shut up bitch

>>74359191
You have the time to wine ad nauseam over them pandering to nips thread after thread.

>>74359147
It means if they stream in JP and that's their "stream" for the day, then they replaced an EN stream.
It's not that complicated. They themselves are the ones who set up this precedent by saying JP streams are extra streams, not their main streams.
I swear to God, some of you are allergic to watching streams.

>>74359160
I think the member's stream got out of hand when Moco-chan started crying. There's no way they planned for themselves to be crying for 3 hours kek

>>74359160
God I hope they are. Not being dramatic, if they fuck up the schedule unveil as badly as the battle plan talk it could cripple their channel for a very long time.

>>74359191
I mean, if they gave everyone a warning 8 months ago that they would go this direction, this WOULD be a valid critique.
8 months is enough time to git decent enough at JP to understand their simple JP.
Unfortunately they didn't, so now everyone but me is menhera.

>>74359250
how do you define "for the day" now that their day is no longer synced with NA

>>74359078
konbanwa!~!

>>74359061
BASED AND TRUE.
IF YOU DISAGREE WITH THIS YOU ARE AN ANTI

>>74359250
Proof?

>>74359250
extra stream doesn't mention anything about the day rule
consider a hypothetical scenario where they stream 20 EN stream spread among monday to saturday and 1 JP stream on sunday
does that counts as replacing a stream

>>74359333
I obviously define it by NA time, not JP time. Why wouldn't I?

>>74359279
I trust this too. I worry about the 5% chance they let their normal retardation through and think they can wing it. I am dead serious that it needs to be a refined, tight intro to the schedule, unveil, reassurance and then move on with no tears. Emphasize it's a fun unique celebration week for golden week. Explain what that is for EOP. Speak of it positively because it is a fun week. Don't hint or doom about the future.

>>74359402
are you fuwamoco?

>>74359129
>>74359395
Literally just watch streams. It happened early on. They also said something to that effect in their first JP stream, too.
I don't know why you retards pretend they didn't say this? Cause it contradicts your narrative?

The thing is, now when they show the schedule and it isn't that bad, you'll never know if it was revised after after all the crying or not.

>>74359431
No, but they still stream and do things based on NA time, so obviously, the "extra stream" thing should be based on NA time.

>>74359466
user just alludes to existence of evidence yet refuses to cooperate
deduct point to authenticity

>>74359510
assumption

Doing my best to not go menhera

>>74359399
Huh, Deja vu.
If the JP stream was added AFTER, they basically finalized the schedule, then that would be an extra stream. If they normally stream once every day, then an extra JP stream would be an 8th stream added onto one of their days.

>>74359410
As soon as either of them hits us with the “a-ah… well, ruffians… we understand if yo-“, after the unveiling im turning it off.

>>74359410
>Speak of it positively because it is a fun week. Don't hint or doom about the future.
This is the most important part by far, it's supposed to be fun why in the name of all that's holy did they make it sound like it was the almost end of the world for a subgroup of their fans?
Why?????

>>74359488
That's a good problem to have. No matter what the schedule is, it's not going to be worse then not knowing. They need to explain it before showing it or the superchat reading post rnr is going to be a shitshow. They could even end it early without reading.

>>74359061
>Why do you think they're ramping it up NOW rather than months and months ago
Because they didn't have the JP exposure months ago that they're going to have now, living in Japan and doing more JP collabs. This is the most logical opportunity, regardless of any "deadlines."
Subs are a factor in anything, but the fact that they're not doing vertical streams contradicts your narrative that they're doing anything "purely" for subs.
>as per their mengen VOD comments
So fucking nothing
>when they COULD do an EN stream means, yes they are replacing streams.
Then EVERY fucking JP stream is a replacement by that definition.

/vt/ and this general will have a fucking huge EOP meltdown during GW. Cant wait.

>>74359594
We should exclusively speak in Japanese during GW.

>>74359279
>it could cripple their channel for a very long time.
Yeah, and on top of that, if the JP gamble doesn't work out then forget about the 1M in one year, they'll be lucky if they reach it in another 6 months from now

>>74359572
There's still a chance that there is something damning in the schedule but it's looking more and more likely that they just got too deep into their insecurities

>>74359570
how do you know that the stream was added after they finalized the schedule
and how do you judge recent schedule with them still not streaming normally yet, with the existence of homework day even in this week
we won't know whether the singular jp stream for that day is a replacement, or an extra on what should be a homework days

>>74359585
>but the fact that they're not doing vertical streams contradicts your narrative that they're doing anything "purely" for subs.
No it doesn't. They literally directly stated that they don't like vertical streams, and there bothersome to set up and watch, seeing as there's two of them.
The reason they're doing GW like this is because of sub growth. That is THE number one reason. They talked about it as the MAIN TOPIC of their "one million subs" goal. They wanted to reach out to the JP fans who they think don't know them and referenced doing more JP streams.
They cried about this cause they feel its cynical, leaves out their core fans, and goes against things they've said before like
>not replacing EN streams
>not wanting to do certain streams like guerillas/spaces cause of the FOMO is causes
>bot doing frequent JP streams
>So fucking nothing
They don't see their members as "fucking nothing," anon. Those are their fucking core fans who are there for every stream. Those are the people they were LITERALLY talking to.
I'm starting to think you didn't actually watch the stream.

>>74358769
From another model. The format is a bit weird and there's an error with saying Japanese are their main demographic

>>74357605
>big decision
lol a fucking dramanigger.

>>74359572
>why in the name of all that's holy did they make it sound like it was the almost end of the world for a subgroup of their fans?
Cause they feel bad that some fans can't speak Japanese and will probably feel left out.
They're empathetic to a fault

>>74359572
>for a subgroup of their fans?
You mean their core? No idea
Using their own words
>It's a special time
>It's the one week in a year
>We just wanted to let you know, so don't be surprised, okay?

>>74359871
It's objectively a big decision, anon.

>i feel left out left out left out!!!
lol just learn japanese then

>>74359569
You know Fuwawa loves you, right wuffian?

>>74359697
Frankly, there's nothing in my mind that they could realistically plan for that could be described with the word "damning," feel free to elaborate.

>>74359927
HoloEN. I also take their promises seriously

>>74359809
>They cried about this cause they feel its cynical, leaves out their core fans, and goes against things they've said before
post timestamp where they said this

>>74359908
>one week in a year
That's what I don't get. They want to pander hard to the JP crowd during a huge time in Japan. Okay. But what about after? Will it just be JP collabs? JP solos? How will their new JP fans "get to know FWMC" if EN stays their priority by their own words. It's illogical.

>>74359970
meanwhile, HoloID

>>74359809
>I'm starting to think you didn't actually watch the stream.
Anon, you're replying to an anti who woke up with the intention of shitting in the thread
Though looking at typing styles, you could be a samefag

>>74359968
>Frankly, there's nothing in my mind that they could realistically plan for that could be described with the word "damning,"
_Apex_

>>74359928
It's why I'm doing my best for her

>>74359973
Jesus Christ just watch the stream. Why is it so hard for you fags to watch them? Just stop shitposting for five seconds and pull up their VODS.
You clearly have the time.

>>74359928
and I love her

useless menhera go RT this art, it won't show up on the tag. better FuwaMoco see this than your worthless drivel. https://twitter.com/nekopore2/status/1783045234739621894

>>74360013
I said that because they ain't saying that specifically explicitly

>>74359983
Hololive shouldn't have an ID branch. They should have a SP branch instead. It's a fucking CRIME that Indogs get a shitload of Vtubers.

>>74360046
wait why not?

>>74360065
ID is the one that paved the way to EN branch
bow down to your predecessor

>>74360078
FUCK YOU

>>74360077
illustrator is a new account created on March 2024

>>74360013
Are you really sure Mococo uses the term "core fans" and "cynical" and you're not just bullshitting?

>>74360046
>>74360099
Their reply shows up on the tags, so FuwaMoco will see it.

>>74360135
Holy fuck I'm unironically arguing with a genuine autist

>>74359968
For me it would be something like 7 JP solo streams. I really wished they could have explained anything at all instead of the vague "please don't be surprised" and letting everyone come up with their own despair scenario

>>74359917
no. its more like until now, they were catering too much to westerners. they rarely had jp only streams and spoke japanese despite speaking japanese fluently. no other bilingual vtuber does this. see, irys, anya, and haachama. its simply strange that they cant use their advantage and do what they want, and have to keep sealing it. so they just want to "fix" the direction and be "normal"

>>74360188
Then you're just making headcanon in your head without actually listening to what they're saying.
F. A. Q.

>>74360207
That would be a genuine nightmare scenario, but I guarantee at least 80% of their streams will be collabs and big event streams of some sort.
There will be solos, no getting around that unfortunately.

>>74359809
>No it doesn't. They literally directly stated that they don't like vertical streams,
Exactly you retard. They aren't doing something that they don't like, regardless subs. Which means JP content is something they DO like, regardless of subs. It's not fucking complicated.
They cried because they worry about whiny casuals like you who consider JP content a betrayal, based on the schizophrenia they've come across here.
The vod comments don't suggest at all their "fans in general" feel left out. That's your own schizo goggle reading and generalizing.

>>74360236
>catering too much to westerners
so their core fans?
>rarely spoke JP even though they want to
See that's the problem. They feel bad for going back on their word. They want to do more JP things but they also don't want to leave that people that show up everyday out.

>>74360290
You should read the rest of my comment on vertical streams, instead of ignoring the part that explains WHY they don't like Vert streams.
Golden Week and their JP streams are for subs. They LITERALLY explained this.
Why do you think they did a JP solo stream right after New Years? It was cause they had a LOT of attention from JP fans, so they capitalized on that to gain more while they had the attention.

>>74360236
Anon, I'm saying it's a big decision cause it's a departure from what their content was like for the last 8 months. Doing an entire week in JP IS a massive decision and is a genuien surprise. Not a single person could have actually predicted this direction a few months ago, and they got their fans too comfortable with the idea that they won't have lots of JP streams/content.

I'm honestly getting tired of these "Anti-EN" schizos and their "Anti-JP" counterparts, especially the ones who try and claim that 1 day members don't matter at all
Anyone who cares has already said their piece, both /here/ and in the vod comments. People kicking up dust now aren't even real, and are just thread shitters

>make a comment talking to archive ruffians
>only heart the love watchers with shock collars that immediately commented and not the later actual archive ruffians
What did they mean by this?

>>74360469
So what kind of Ruffian are you?

>>74360469
Fuck Youtube for downgrading me to second-class citizens because they failed to process my payment

>>74360366
>so they capitalized on that to gain more while they had the attention
That's exactly what I said. That's why they're doing it now. Not your headcanon about "the deadline," or your implication that they don't enjoy doing JP streams. The fucking ultraweebs whose goals are half JP content no less.

I'd respect them a lot more if they stopped trying to make excuses or rationalize and just did what they wanted. Tell us the details and leave out the crying and justification. They aren't changing their minds and are the ones making the decision, they need to own it if it's the way they want to go, then go that way. Trying to cry, explain how tough it is or whatever helps no one. If it's that rough, why make the decision at all?

Honestly I'm just sad I have to wait WEEKS for more Donkey Kong Country 2. That was probably my favorite stream in a long long loooong time...

>>74360568
>are the ones making the decision
dyrbi

I think the membership stream awoke something in me, watching Mococo cry made so fucking hard...

>>74360090
Bow down to the CN branch

NOW

>>74360568
They're menhera, care too much(good and bad thing), and constantly on the fence about the direction of their channel.

>>74360608
mococo cry moer turing her bd tream, you fucking lier

>>74360572
It's the worst news of all. The stream was peak. It feels dirty a bit they used it as bait to appease us before this shit, but it was fun regardless. Funny they even mentioned it again in the battle plan when people were having mental breakdowns.

>>74360572
Inb4 it's dropped due to some weird perm reason

>>74360646
please no....

>>74360630
You doing okay anon?

>>74360646
Perms only for a limited time, must post with x regularity or it expires. Wouldn't be the first. If we lose dkc2 to this Japan shit, I will become an anti.

>>74360674
precanhce

>>74360344
>their core fans?
they are core fans but they are just "the first" core fans. its not like they have the "privilege" of being core fans.
fwmc can also have more core fans obviously unlike other western vtubers, if they stream in japanese. they have yet to try it so want to do it. simple and plain. logical and reasonable action.

>They feel bad for going back on their word. They want to do more JP things but they also don't want to leave that people that show up everyday out.
this makes sense and is reasonable but this is fwmcs problem. its not my argument. im talking about ruffians strange reactions to jp only streams.

>>74360699
you cant just say precanhce

>>74360707
How many members actually maintain a significant amount of 'core fans' in EN and JP? Seems near impossible. I guess some ID members are the closest but that's a special case.

Why does the thread go to shit at like 4am

Few new VOD comments including duck bro. Rational takes.

>>74360759
JPs don't stick around unless there are regular JP streams. Even if there are, there will be streams they won't be privy to, like mengen streams or important BIG streams. Due to this, most JP fans of girls like these end up leaving. Even if FuwaMoco do weekly JP streams, they won't be able to keep any "hard-core JP ruffians."
The ones who stick around are, ironically enough, westaboos who WANT to learn eigo.

>>74360699
I dunno about that... How many have you had already? I've only had one so far

>>74360207
I guess I'm just not as allergic to JP streams as some, if they did the whole week in jap, hell even fwmc mornings (whose time slot wouldn't really make sense if so, but I digress), I wouldn't mind because they said they'd only go that hard during GW anyway.
EOP, if that's relevant.

>>74360848
I'm sorry, but did FWMC transfer to JP branch? Oh, that's right. They're still HoloEN and will always be HoloEN. In fact, they're only a few weeks in Japan. Does losing some of a few EN stream over the course of a few weeks count as a loss? Is that what you're saying? Because if you're saying that I can assure you that you're wrong. Why would you make these girls sad when they're doing their best to make YOU happy? FWMC are still flooded with homeworks right now and they have been the busiest in their lives in Japan for how many weeks now? They're working in one of the most stressful city on earth who just happen to be even more stressful because they're being invited to a lot of JP events and offcollabs. But you know what? They still fucking make time for you ingrates. FWMC are one of the best fucking vtubers/idols in the world, they did their 3view grind a few years ago and would have kept on grinding in that fucking shithole if they weren't unlucky(lucky) enough to get the boot. Maybe you should shut the fuck up before you make retarded ungrateful posts like this. You know why? Because you're going to be embarrassed when the twins streams in EN and JP for Golden Week. Oh look at that, another FWMC bait thread just got deleted, just like what happened with your first one. Are you a fucking drunk? Are you retarded? Are you autistic? You are a fucking idiot and you should never make a post on this thread again and I'm fucking serious. I almost have a feeling you're the only guy making all these anti-FWMC threads because you’re a faggot hater who doesn't like the twins because they're too good. Fuck you, be good at something in YOUR life and then maybe try to troll about these fucking 'drama' on the board, like I give a fuck. It's so easy to spot out your threads and posts now, you're a retard. Always doing stupid shit like this. Why don't you try to be a good poster? Just for once? For once in your fucking life try not to make a post like this. That's just you, you're always right at getting it wrong. Fuck you. You are nothin

>>74360763
Guess where it's ~5pm now

Is that AI or copied? Not reading either way but curious

>>74360869
same on all accounts. and i really don't see any decline in en over jp streams. who the hell gets into this NOT expecting a solid amount of jp content from these two? let alone getting indignant over it

>>74360901
Damn Japs, making us hate them in our own thread!

Mococo whatever you do don't doompost during the puptalk

>i just sneezed 6 times in a row
what did they mean by this

Holy fuck, are you guys retarded?
Stop replying to the anti comment in the SC reading stream, replying to it makes it easier to see for other people

>>74360848
It's why I'm not worried. Golden week is a naked sub grab attempt, they don't care if everyone who watches and subs leaves. Well, they probably do because they're menhera but they should not expect anyone to stay. Afterwards, back to EN.

>>74361017
>Mococo puptalk today
Oh God I need this puptalk so badly

>>74361017
I hope they don't forget the FUWAMOCODE word.

>>74361039
What if that's their plan all along? To get the 1million sub live no matter the cost

>>74360859
get off the sofa your fat fucks, stop drinking poison, eat some steak, butter and eggs and go to the gym while listening to news and podcasts in Japanese or something.

Do you ever step back for just a minute and think "This actually doesn't matter, in the grand scheme of things this will go over as irrelevant. They'll have had a JP golden week and occasionally an extra JP stream here and there and that's it."?

It's easy to almost talk yourself into a frenzy, especially here. But ultimately it's a nothingburger and it'll be forgotten before long with you just sitting there enjoying their streams again like always.

>>74361076
Anon, why do you think they are going so hard on GW? Yes, they want to reach out to their senpai and JP Ruffians, but ultimately it's a sub boosting move.

>>74360837
Oh man there's 15 more comments than the last time I checked.
A few supportive comments and a few more menhera ones from long-term mems. Damn a couple of these are pretty scathing.

>see tweet
>feel pain
Its gonna be a long week.

>>74361040
>puptalk is her unexpectedly crying for 3 minutes

I didn't even smile at the tweet notification. It just reads like a scheduled tweet. What happened to the heartfelt unique stream frame posts?

>>74361039
>everyone who watches and subs leaves.
Why do i get the feeling that you really want this to happen just so you can justify your selfishness over the twins
Pretty gross desu

>>74360899
BAUSED

>>74361227
Are you telling me you belive that JP only tourists seeing then stream for a week in japanese will stay and watch when they go back to speaking English only?
From their view, they subbed to a Japanese streamer and subbed for jp content. Most people don't stay invested if there's one stream a week in a language they understand

>>74361211
>doesn't even have the hearts
It's bauver.

>samefagging

>>74361140
>RAFFIANS!!
>GOOD *sniff* G-GOOD m-MOOORNINHG
>d-did *sniff* did you *sniff* r-r-raff- raffia--
>y-you won't leave w-w- *sniff* will you...
>I...care... I r-really d-d-d... do...
>*uncontrollable snotty sobbing for next minute*

>>74360848
>The ones who stick around are, ironically enough, westaboos who WANT to learn eigo.
As is shown by the JP ruffians who ARE still around, learning english and interacting with EN ruffians

>>74361107
Yeah, that was my thought in the first place. I was much more upset about the menhera reactions ITT, which only make FWMC worry more.

>>74361302
Don't worry, Moco-chan
Forget about them. I will protect your smile

>>74361211
>>74361286
menhera wives...

gn ruffians

Wednesday! You've made it half way through the week!! I'm looking forward to keeping up my determination (and silliness) with you as the sun shines on the new day. It's always the right paw with you there FuwaMoco

>>74361302
I like needy girls being needy, but I also don't want her to be sad
Fuck

>>74361107
>But ultimately it's a nothingburger and it'll be forgotten before long with you just sitting there enjoying their streams again like always
That's what I'm hoping for, but my oshis are menhera doomposting

Good night ruffians

>>74361107
I've been talking myself in and out of a frenzy for two days now.
Right now, I've talked myself out of one so I recognize that in three weeks, we'll all be relaxing and watching them play DKC2 again, business as usual.
When I wake up, I'll probably end up going schizo again cause I'm mentally ill and shouldn't be allowed tk have access to the internet

>>74361367
Goodnight

>>74361005
I'm honestly surprised how much they've held back on solo jp streams especially.

>>74361459
Fuck tk

>>74358769
>>74359845
Honestly these read like newfags trying too hard. Which I guess is a damning condemnation of the current state of 4chan.

>>74361305
Can you blame them though with how FWMC stated everything?

>>74361479
Solo jp streams mean they sacrificed an EN stream, or sleep. Neither of which I want or are good

>>74361459
Mococo....

>>74361107
No because slippery slope is real. I've been watching since 2019 and in that time I've seen a few JPs and a MASSIVE amount of ENs fuck everything up due to a flash of stupidity/menhera moment. I've never cared about any of them the way I do Fuwamoco except maybe Suisei.

I'm going to get a like today by posting my thoughts using the hashtag #FWMCMORNING during the pup talk

>>74361527
>Solo jp streams mean they sacrificed an EN stream, or sleep
>or sleep
I'm sorry to tell you, but that isn't true anymore

>>74361569
I won't
because I'm not going to

>>74361582
With how much homework they keep crying about I don't see how it isn't true

Do we think Mococo will even be able to give a puptalk? She was clearly still bummed on Monday so that's why Fuwawa protected her.

>>74361645
Honestly? Yes. Because the Pup Talks are for them as well as all of us.

>>74361645
Honestly? This pup talk might actually sting somehow, probably just my menhera speaking

I am Japanese.

>>74361714
Why are you watching ENs instead of JP?

>>74361682
>pup talk about how change and growth are good and how you shouldn't let other people hold you back from pursuing your goals (i.e. EN Ruffians holding FWMC back).
No...

>>74361714
5chに帰れ

the real way to subs is doing a clickbait video, onsite shoot. Inspirational: clueless twin demon guard dogs order ponderings in perfect japanese, shocks patrons and staff... and then THIS happened...

>>74361901
Its most likely going to be about pushing for what's important to (You) and seeing where it takes you

>>74361645
yes
they are prerecorded

>>74361989
Honestly, if they did an offcollab karaoke stream with Suisei, and an offcollab ASMR stream with Noel, they'd be fucking set.

Best way to easily gain a million subs is to do a TWIN SEX ASMR stream in english every week. [

jong with wuffians!!

>>74362179
no language needed I want it to be so rough and animalistic it's just panting and moaning

>>74361033
FWMC are getting baited, they feel obligated to keep comments blatantly breaking the "do not share membership content in public" rule just because the person said "they're gonna delete this!!!!".
The fact that those comments are still there is clear proof that they have no mods, there is no mane chan vetoing shit, it's all them.

>>74362057
>offcollab ASMR stream with Noel
Pleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease

bros...

>>74362057
I’m on my knees Moco-chan please do it

>>74362057
>JP ASMR before EN ASMR
Not like this...

>>74362049
prerecordingschizo...

>>74362502
Six months...

>>74362502
perms HATE
n*nt*ndo HATE

>>74362502
We'll see it eventually. I still hope.

>>74362057
collabs are good but they need to do what they were doing at the beginning and bully their senpai into letting them host the collabs on their stream. Even with koyori showing up for FWMC Morning unless they ask people to subscribe during it they'd get more subs if they hosted the karaoke on their channel.