/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>74306480
Yes.

>>74306480
>4view
>indie
Mae she's winning

>>74306480
there attention span is incredibly short. also all those e-celeb youtbers dont even like her. they just virtuesignal or try to make money with a drama

>>74306480
https://vocaroo.com/19aEOLEZGflw

>>74306480
>and sub growth?
>he says while nijinigs are still bleeding
lol lmfao

Yeah its really sadz if things keep going the way they have been she might hit 700k during the first week of may rather than by end of april.

>>74306721
>He

>>74306480
She doesn't have anyone interesting to collab with, thats why she wont last.

>>74306480
She's already ahead of everyone in Advent except Fuwamoco so I think she's doing alright.

>>74306480
But she still mogs all of nijiEN tho?

>>74306699
Who is this? I don't recognise the voice.

>>74306584
Based doggo.

>>74306480
Yes, and that's a good thing doki don't need dramastarved faggots in her fanbase.

Nigger. EVERYONE knew that her re-debut numbers post-termination were temporary, even the staunchest of dragoons knew it too especially since Doki has STILL managed to keep a stream CCV that's comparable to her tenure in Niji. Literally, anyone who said otherwise was either trolling, retarded, delusional, completely new to how situations like this work, or is an autistic mixture of all of the above. Now either stay in your general so you don't shit up the catalog like the rest of your page-smeared kind or get the fuck out of /here/ and im the meantime either wait for your doxxsite to come back online or find/help make a new one.

>>74306796
>implying NijiEN is interesting
Rumao

>>74306480
>still mogs every liver organ in nijiEN
damn, they must suck ass

>>74307003
You'd think she'd at least keep 1000-2000 of her 120k debut but I guess she's just a bad streamer

>>74307003
*pagpag-smeared

>>74306480
Still wouldn't betray her fans for a dying language
SEETHE RUFFKEK

>>74306929
ironmouse mate

>>74306584
>wild paypuppy cuck out of the cage
You VILL be a good little ruffoyim and learn ze dying language

>>74307063
>as oppossed to my 3view Nijis

>>74306480
She's the best vtuber out there. Holo is trash when compared to her

>>74307003
I don't think it's actually coming back. The last few times when the owner couldn't be bothered to pay the host it just gave back a DNS error, not this. Might be gone forever.

>>74307183
i believe that you watch her

>>74306929
Ironmouse, the laugh and her accent are dead give-aways.

>>74307156
If you're comparing her to the shitters in Iluna you've already lost because these are losses comparable to that. Not even counting the dragoons who have left (Like Savi) due to her fanbase being full of dramafags

>>74307183
Nice falseflag sister.

>Nyfcocuck trying REALLY hard to shit on Fuwamoco against Doki
Even Orcschizo and Ennaschizo were more subtle...

>>74306480
Dramabird fans keep spamming more threads to keep her relevant but nobody has the interest or energy to really get into it with them anymore. Let us know when she drops any new crumbs of actual drama.

>>74306796
This.
>can't collab with Holo
>can't collab with Niji
>can't collab with Vshojo
Dookie is doomed in the long run.

>>74307183
BASED BASED BASED
>>74307255
>>74307267
Unlike Cuckfians my oshi is pure and will never learn a dying language
KWAB+YWNBJ

>>74307191
I guess word getting around of there being open doxxes on it might've fucked the owner's ability to keep it going if so, and no one's going to try and save it like Kiwifarms.

>>74306584
I kneel

>>74307224
>Elira is 1k
Lmao retarded Nijinig
>Savi
But she still post Selen?, delusional cuck

>>74307327
>can't collab with Vshojo
who said that? I'm shocked she didn't tried to collab with zen yet.

>>74307379
In a multi PoV collab with a bunch of shitters that's pretty normal for Elira

And no, Savi hasn't tweeted about or liked anything Doki related for months.

>>74307063
I mean even Fuwamoco had a stream under 3k yesterday. Fluctuations are natural. Only get worried when she's stuck at finana level.

>>74306480
who is this? not a HoloLIVER for sure

>>74307421
>Cope: the post
Dead dying branch...

>>74307327
She already collabed with Vshojo

>>74307329
If you're going to larp as a dragoon it'd be better to actually understand who they are and how they respond to things.

>>74307465
You're objectively wrong on the Savi thing sorry to say

>>74307327
>me when I dont watch streams

>>74306796

Not having anyone to collab with is already bad by itself, but watching solo Doki is just so incredibly fucking painful. I don't understand how anyone does it. It's like what Amy Schumer does to being funny, Doki does to being interesting and engaging.

>>74307003
No, there were quite a few arguments during that time. A lot of people argued she was going to change and dominate the vtuber market. Others who were universally called nijisisters were the ones that said her numbers would drop because it was a drama buff. Some estimates of so-called "nijisisters" were that she could maintain near 50k ccv for a few months and be at 10-20k ccv after a year, but would eventually be a low 3view after a few years when nobody cared anymore. Next time in half a year or more you will say that nobody said her numbers would be stable by now, even though you will call the ones saying that now "nijisisters."

>>74307482
>>74307518
The tranny doesn't count. It collabs with everyone and everything. She will never collab with Ironmouse, Froot, Matara, Kuro, etc.

>>74307275
>Sister trying to blame their thread spamming on dragoons
Heh

>>74307509
Even if the Savi is true, there are a lot of new artist and the strongest Dragoon is still there (127/Hinatsu)
Good riddance since she sperged when Selen played Atomic Heart because Russia is leh bad even if the game had nothing to do with the war

this is a hobby that relies on networking and collabing with esports fleshies and 2views won't make her number go up

>higher ccv than most of niji
>got a bunch of sponsorships, some of whom cancelled deals with niji
>is indy so doesnt have to give a cut to niggersanji
>has mostly western audience, meanwhile nijis are forced to cater to subhuman SEAniggers and chinklets
>SEA currency is shit tier and chinks are volatile, sensitive retards who chimp out if you name a country
cope and seethe lmao

>>74307660
>it doesn't count
Less than 60 posts and already using that argument?
You are getting sloppy sister

>>74306584
Ohhhhh Hai bery bery gudo postu ferrow wuffian

>>74307660
>i-it doesn't count
>still a retard who dont watch streams

>>74307660
>the tranny doesn't count
>she will never collab with Froot
She hasn't collabed with Zen - it was with Froot. lmao

>>74307660
She literally already collabed with Froot you fucking retard

>>74306480
pic

>>74307660
Okay so you really don't watch streams then.

>>74307706
On the contrary. Dragoons and sisters are all one and the same, all Niji fans and ex-Niji fans are all the same people. They're constantly perpetuating drama and trash in an endless cyclone. There's no way to purify them, they don't improve when they now hate their favorite corpo. It's all the same, through and through. Once a niji, they're always a niji.

>>74307905
>least obvious Nijisister
I hope you liked the Vox outfit lmao

Hololive chose the good side. If you support Dookie you are anti-holo.

>>74307905
>>74308037
NIJISEETHE

>>74307752
>higher ccv than most of niji
This isn't the flex you think it is. Unless you're saying just because she will need to apply for a retail job to support her hobby soon that's the same as even many corpo chuubas. But the dire state of the industry is not a flex however you try to spin it.

>>74307881
He definitely doesn't but I think he confused Doki with Sayu. Sisters can't even remember which girl they're antiing.

>>74307905
lol

>>74307063
I mean there's nothing to say she didn't keep around those numbers of viewers, AFAIK. I'm not a number monkey so I don't have any charts or the like but regardless she's good at cultivating and RETAINING an audience that'd basically kill for her. She's certainly picked some interesting games to stream recently that don't exactly draw in tons of new eyes but it's what she wanted to do and I can't fault her for wanting to have fun streaming with her loyal audience.

>>74307743
Neither will worshipping a culture that makes them move to Japan to abandon their fans.

>>74307327
>can't collab with Vshojo
She can collab with vshojo just fine. She just isnt joining, because doki has a few conditions, one of them is that if there is ever a sanrio collab she gets to be cinnamoroll, so mouse vetoed her.

>>74307905
literally the only things dragoons do is live up to the goon part in their name

>74307905
>Sisters actually think this.
Baffling

>>74307985
>>74308088
>>74308106
I barely even know who that is, but I'll take your word for it, nijisisters.

>>74308122
Honestly surprised sisters have tried some bullshit rrat with this. At least it would be funny

>>74308165
Sure Nijikek, go back to China to defend Vox from haters after his shitty samurai outfit rumao

>>74308165
Are they botting again? This reply makes no sense.

>>74307421
The cope is insane kek

>>74308248
You'll have to link it to me before I can have an opinion about it. You obvious know more than I do.

>>74308292
Dont be ashamed, your homo will surely have a better outfit next time, with less viewers ofc

>>74308251
The real world and other people never made any sense to you in the first place. You're just too wrapped up in your nijisister shit vortex of endless drama.

Do nijisisters even watch niji streams?

>>74306480
her face looks like a roblox face

Fact of the matter is that even when she was still in Niji EN, she wasn't exactly a massive channel either. Even Mint too now doesn't get great numbers, they were already established creators so they aren't gonna get a massive spike that stays with them when they already had an established fanbase over several years.

>>74308354
I'm serious, I have no clue what you're waffling on about, but please don't let that stop you. So Doki got a samurai outfit or something or collabed with a samurai chuuba or she hates homosexuals? Okay lmao.

>>74307591
Yeah, and I said anyone who was saying that was either trolls, retards, delusional, etc. I mean come on, those were delusional estimates even for the anons /here/ and the sisters. V-tubing's still just too niche for those numbers to be sustainable and maintainable, at most they might rise that high during bigger events but otherwise Doki's views will probably stay similar to what they are now, plus or minus fluctuations and any potential revelations, with some potential growth later down the line. Seriously though it was just the realistic outcome, and anyone delusional enough to have genuinely believed in it to the point of using it as an insult towards Doki is stupid considering she recognized that her numbers wouldn't stay that consistently high forever.
>Verification not required.

>>74308464
Always look at how they were doing before their debut and what they created before people knew them for their corpo role. That will always put it into perspective.

>>74308088
Dookieseethe. Holo collabs doko?

>>74308482
>Nijishart random babbling
Mindbroken already lmao

>>74307509
Twitter doesn't allow me to order chronologically without an account, so here is Savis insta. You are factually wrong, she still posted Selen as of 2 weeks ago.
https://www.instagram.com/savisavichan/p/C5az_jrPJSO/?hl=en

>>74308369
Not really

>>74307136
Kek, based

>>74306480
you make this exact same thread every day

I stopped watching because I don't like Apex and even when she isn't playing that she's playing garbage.

>>74308622
As an aside, Content Warning is the most annoying game

>>74308367
Oh okay, they're just doing the thing where they start calling anyone who shits on niji a nijister to sow confusion in the replies. Usually it takes them quite a while into a thread for them to do this - guess they're getting tired.

>>74308571
>posting 3view
Lmao, it seems that AR LIVE didn't save NijiEN after all

>>74308622
>Holo vs Niji
Nice try Dookietard. Holo is Niji ally.

>>74306579
But she was supposed to be a Gura killer with that sub growth?

>>74308724
>58k views
Grim....

>>74308525
And in 6 months to a year you will say the same about thinking her numbers would stabilize a few months after the drama. You will even say anyone that claimed that was just a troll, so from the perspective of future me and you, why are you trolling? It's all so tiresome. Just admit that it's a cope and always has been, and is still a cope, as her numbers plummet and only rational people (not niji anything) have predicted exactly what would happen give or take a some difference. The fans can't expect to be respected for their takes or treated as rational if they always just resort to screeching when someone is being realistic.

>>74308758
Nope that was the penguin

>>74308724
Is that why they took your spot at Off-Kai?

>>74307275
>Dramabird fans keep spamming more threads to keep her relevant
But enough about aloucreeps

>74308724
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBKr8YLuVgs

>>74306480
After being raided by Enna all Elira could pull in her last stream, which happened to be a collab with one of her irl friends and hanamori farbage, was 4 miserable finanas...

ah the daily sister seethe thread

Funny to see a bait thread about Doki is more alive than the /HAHA/ thread, which barely exists on the board right now.

>>74308689
No. You think that you can just change your stripes when your oshi gets booted, and that everyone will treat you like a new-born, reincarnated, and free of any association with your previous life. That's not how this works. You are still the same person that was a fan of niji and acting like a shit stain, and you cannot scrub that away. You are the same people, even your oshi getting terminated doesn't mean she wasn't a niji talent, doesn't mean she's not still niji quality. Hence, you are all and will always be the same shit. Always.

>>74308954
It's more than daily since their site was nuked. They've been really hammering away at the dogs, guess they got bored of that for a bit.

>>74308758
literally nobody was making that comparison.

>>74308972
Still better than the "lazulight" thread, were mentally ill sisters pretent that Mint Fantome is part of that shitty group

>>74308994
Show your YouTube memberships.

>>74309020
NTA but I was told that I was insane and not making any sense when I told people that she wouldn't beat Gura and her numbers would drop.

>>74309041
That and that and also the mint one are fucking dead

>>74308972
She's not streaming, when she is it goes fast. It's not /NijiEN/ /nenmen/ or /Lazulight/ where anons post pictures of their dicks or what they had for dinner just to keep the thread alive

>>74308972
That's general thread. This is a bait thread for shitting up the board and laughing at sisters

>>74309086
I don't have any memberships. You really are showing yourself up now, aren't you? You can't even comprehend a world where people here aren't members to your shit corpo and shit ex-corpo.

>>74309107
I'm sure you can show proof of that.

>>74309197
>no memberships
So you really are a third world sister? Sad.

>>74309239
Yeah I always keep around links to my replies to schizo shitposts. Otherwise nobody would ever believe me schizos shitpost on 4chan.

>>74308822
>Biblically accurate petora.jpg

Reminder that these are the "people" you are arguing against

>>74309296
Nope. But nice moving the goalposts and changing the subject. I accept your absolute concession and proving me right.

>>74308972
Why don't the sisters just go to lolcow. It's basically a doxx site as well

>>74309427
Probably because if you address somebody that isn't there then the people that are here won't even think about what you're saying as a suggestion.

>>74309384
There's been no goalpost moving. You were accused of being a sister, and you refuse to provide proof of your memberships and claim to have none. Either you're a third world dramatranny or you're a nijisister. It's pretty obvious, even your style of typing. I'm sure your doxxsite will find a new home one day, don't worry.

>>74308972
>2 rest days
>expect the thread to be fast
Retard

>>74308994
Delicious nijiseethe, keep crying

>>74309514
What proof my guy? An empty screen with no memberships? Do you need it that bad? Here, you've got your proof. Now you post yours and show me you never membered anyone in Nijisanji. Since you already think membership is a given you can't cop out and pretend you don't member anyone.

>>74309014
It was really nuked to death or just temporary?

>>74308807
No need to be this bitter about falling for trolling m8. You're new here, I'm sure you'll get better at spotting it in time.

>>74309802
Seems to be

>>74309847
I've been here for over 20 years. I've not fallen for anything. I'm shitposting in a shitpost thread.

>>74308994
I love how Nijinigs like this are desperately trying to convince other people that they are not losing people after all the shitshow.

>>74309802
Looks like it might be gone >>74307191

>>74306480
shell also probably go to bililbili which is actually her home lol

>>74309847
>>74309911
Yeah fuck Niji, I couldn't agree more. All Niji and ex-Niji are the worst and should be expelled from the industry along witt their pond scum fans.

>>74309915
Good, sadly a lot of them will come here and hopefully they will stay on /NijiEN/ although that might be wishful thinking...

>The dox site went down so retards are even more empowered to label anyone who finds Doki's story fishy a "seething Nijisister"

>>74309964
You are not fooling anyone sister, you already got calked out
Try again tomorrow lmao

>>74310016
Sorry, you can't convince anyone you're not still pond scum.

>>74309185
>>74309427
>>74309580
>>74309182
>>74309041
Sorry for insulting your dead thread, didn't think I would get this many (You)s just by simply calling it dead lmao, still sensitive like old dragoons

>>74309978
I took a look in /NijiEN/ out of curiosity when the news broke about it going down and it seems that even they don't like the sisters from that site - which surprised me desu

>>74310055
>he wrote this while his company still has abysmal PR
Least delusional Nijitranny

>>74310084
>pointing out it's not dead
>"HAHAHAHAHAHA, UR SO MAD"
lol

>>74309988
They don't do themselves any favors. I have never watched Nijisanji in my life and I have been randomly called that so many times the last few months for no reason. It's honestly deranged.

>>74310084
>as opposed to my yaoi and /soc/posting spam thread
This is not what a victory looks like btw

>>74310149
>pointing out
lol

>>74310116
I don't care about the company, unlike you. That's what will keep this going and why you will never be able to let go. Unlike you, I can forget about the whole thing as soon as I close the thread lmao.

>>74309988
Well if you dont want to be called a sister then stop acting like one

>>74306480
I haven't watched her in a while because she hasn't played anything I'm interested in watching. Same as any other vtuber.

>>74306584
Based Based Based

>>74310286
>...until I make another one tomorrow
Do Nijikeks REALLY???

Why are sisters so bad at falseflagging? They've been in overdrive in the past few months trying it but all of their replies are so painfully obvious. It's amazing that they've not managed to adapt.

>>74306480
the ones who she thought were "her friends" or " her new fans" were mostly shut-in trannies. it was obvious from the beginning. one cant expect anything good from them

>>74310357
>the amount of Fuwamoco seethe spam
>Doki hate threads appearing again
Not sure if Nyfco being killed was a good or a bad thing

>>74306480
Apex killed her channel.

>>74310411
>nijifags talking about trannies
The call is coming from inside the house

How many finanas does nijien get? oh like 2 or 3 tops? okay sister, very cool

>>74310294
>don't question us or our oshi or we'll call you with the labels that used to describe us, which totally doesn't apply to our current behavior
Can't make up this level of coping and seething.

>>74310346
Can't tell someone to not make another thread tomorrow if they didn't make one in the first place. It won't have any impact, at most it will have a negative impact and encourage people to make more threads. So, you must be a false flag.

>>74311161
>you must be a falseflag
The irony coming from a Nijifag lmao

>>74311096
Projecting much?

Similar question, what happened to Vox's subs? Has there ever been mass unsubscribing after an outfit reveal before?

>>74311390
Dw, he will have Bilibili sucking his cock

Remind me who's been making these shit threads
and dragging this back up every day to bitch about her?

I guess the brain rot crew is making the rounds again i wonder sisters was you born this stupid or did you take lessons?

>>74311465
Apparently the chinks aren't thrilled either.

>>74311672
OH NO NO

>>74310453
It's a good thing. The first thing that happens when containment is broken is a flood of retards but as time goes by they'll all either get banned or get tired of not being in their own hugbox, before making a new one that inevitably gets deleted again. Such is the cycle of shartyfarmersdoxxsisters.

>>74311672
>So ugly I want to call the police

>>74306480
>Hey guys let's try to hit 500k by the end of the year

I think she's doing fine.

>>74306480
Yep. All of the drama watchers left since the drama has ended. The only people trying to keep it going are them and it is pretty pathetic. Doki's audience just wants watch her in peace. The Niji fanbase just wants people to stream again and to have fun. They will probably find some new drama from somewhere at some point and flock to someone else.

All I care about is that my Lord is finally back and has a new model to boot! The best part is that it shows off his chest and his thick thighs.

>>74307224
She drew Doki, and she's still in the new dragoon discord. I'm pretty sure she helped with one of the dokibites and some merch, as well. Of all the people to pick...

>>74311949

His model is really bad though and i'm not just saying that to make fun of your oshi even as a Dragoon it's my honest opinon that it's his worse model yet I'm going to assume the concept art was better then whatever this is

>>74307136
stop talking like a fucking polnigger

ain' nobodi' surprised tat' dookit'bir nomba' goin' don', im jus' surprised tat' it laste'd fo' tis' whil'e. Buut sinc'e she's an indi'e no ay', she got nobodi' to tak'e cuuts from her moneeh earnin' no mor', she wil' be fin'e yea'.

>>74306480
No.

>>74306480
I got sick of her constantly laughing and associating boring ass twitch niggers. But still, wishing her well and fuck niji.

>>74307327
She already collabed with Holos.and even ex Niji.

>>74308037
Enna's doing decent actually. Either cause she went back to streaming a lot earlier or the Kiara visit helped her more then people thought. Enna is doing better than Elira and Vox.

>>74317723
I dunno about that. She's streamed 17 times so far this month, and only 3 of those streams broke 2k (one was raided). Hell, she even had a 5hr-long 3view stream

I'm gonna be real with you I never watched her to begin with I just wanted to be part of the hype.
Mumei and Fauna are better anyway.

>>74317068
Woah what the fuck I don’t remember typing this!

>>74306480
Hopefully, I think I'll pick her up once she gets her new model.

What? It's not SEA hours yet. What's with all the Doki seethe threads suddenly? Has Niji fucked up something again recently?

>>74319413
Their doxxsite has been nuked >>74307191
They've been going after Fuwamoco too.

>>74319413
nyfco got deleted

>>74319413
>>74319521
Also Vox's outfit reveal was only at 15k when last year it was at just over 85k, and even the Chinese don't like it.

>>74317435
She didn't collab with holos, doxxfag.

>>74309107
Nobody was claiming that at all.
Not even as bait.
The only possibility was her having bigger numbers as an indie than as a corpo, which would be pretty unprecedented.

As a Famelira, there's one thing which I will commend Doki for which is ignoring Grift Connect. They definitely wanted to leech her but she gave those disgusting grifters the cold shoulder.

>>74319649
>nyfcosister calling others doxxfags
How cute.

>>74319611
>even the Chinese don't like it
Now that is rock bottom

>>74318528
Based sapling

>>74319904
And ignoring sayu too kek

>>74311672
>Whore for the chinese
>The chinese finds you an ugly whore
ABSOLUTE KEK. Can't believe even the chinks can be smart once in a lifetime.

>>74306480
I see absolutely no problem for an Indie, and thank god the dramalurking is over. Nijisis so desperate to find a reason to blame someone else of their company failure, why you didn't sperg money on your whore new clothes? Too poor to pay the doxxsite to stay up.
Fuck off, it's gonna be 4 months actual goons live without thinking you even exist, you are the dramafaggots needing to do post like these.

>>74320792
>>74319904
And ignoring nijisanji altogether

>>74321188
>Imagining getting out of a corpo and wanting to collab with all those you couldn't before first.
Nijisis desperate for tribalfagging but it's normal, she is gaining new contacts every collab, so who cares about the others needing Vshojo, she is fine without it and the drama too.

>>74307423
>didn't tried

>>74317723
>>74318366
If anything this episode has thought me that 90% of dramafags never watch streams and never will. The other 10% are short-term viewers. The real hit to Niji was their long-term viewers leaving.
It'd take a few more months, before the branch can grow again. Their big problem are the pre-Selen termination problems that were haunting the company. If the Selen Shock was enough to get them off their asses, they can eventually recover and grow.
For the sake of the livers that have decided to stay with the company I hope they get their shit together.

>>74306480
>What happened to her viewers and sub growth?
What happened to Nijien's?

>>74320792
Sayu really can't catch a break kek I quit watching her after the 4th time she tried to dramabait with kurosanji

>>74320792
>>74323754
To be honest Sayu is too much of a Dramabait, even with the Kenji stuff she was right but she tripled down until the nuke was too big both realized they were gonna be killed by the drama.
She made herself radioactive, can't blame Doki for wanting to avoid that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsSDlgKMboY
Sayufags still seething at this kek

>>74325139
>he's still shilling his channel

>>74306480
She's boring

>>74309319
Convenient

>>74325017
To be fair, other than U-san Doki has avoided all ex-Nijis. She's said repeatedly that she wants to get to know a lot of other indies as much as possible and so she's been choosing new people nearly every collab.

>>74306584
tpbp

>>74307191
Good riddance. It gathered a toxic crowd that would publicly dox others. Couldn't keep it contained.

>>74307191
nyfco was mostly used by English speakers, japanese people have moved to other websites.

But this thread is perfectly fine, right tranny janny??? How much pagpag is nijisanji paying you to sweep catalog for them?

>>74329691
It's okay, the bait threads from sisters are just them getting mentally raped for the first fifty or so replies and then when they rum away the rest of the threads are anons discussing how shit their organs are. So it all works out in the end.

>>74306480
her forced laughs creeps me out, i can hear the depression and pain from them.

>>74325139
Very subtle, grimmity.

>>74306480
Yeah they do. Thank fuck. Hopefully they'll start fucking off from Sayu next and we can get some actual closure on this whole bullshit until June.

>>74307752
for the low, low price of her dignity and pride. I'm surprised more people don't sell their soul and pretend to kill themselves for pityviews and cash!

>>74329691
pretending being a 4 view is bad when you're supposed to be 'dead'? she barely got more than that before the drama started ages ago, she's never gotten huge numbers. Famelira should win most loyal fanbase next year

>>74333008
>for the low, low price of their dignity and pride, I'm surprised more people don't sell their soul and join Nijisanji EN for corpo-idolizers and a 2% cut!

Fixed that for you, anon

>>74333166
Holy Nijicope

>>74306500
not sure why it took so long but
fpbp

i mean like any debut numbers whille go down until a floor is reached. She cant keep paying people for cmissions and do buff content all the time.
is normal. still higehr than niji but is a low bar.

>>74333166

>>74333166
Sayu has several fans with a 40+ month subscription streak.

This means that they were subbed the entire time that she was graduated, while in Niji, and then after Niji while waiting for her to come back.

>>74307275
>dramabird
>dookiebird
you're weird name calling isn't blending in.

>>74333805
pretty damn based of them, I must say

>>74334704
Yeah, those guys were there when she was still a flesh streamer, when she shifted to vtubing, and through all of the drama. They're still regulars, too. Real cool people

>>74307191
>Might be gone forever.

>>74306584
JP cocksleeve bau bau

>>74306480
you should worry about your company's growth first sister

>>74306480
Mika throwing shade and nijikuro deflection

>>74334704
Not saying that's not impressive, but its a bit less when you consider the time from her first grad to her reappearance was only 5 months.

>>74326219
That's the problem. It used to contained the toxic nijisisters to some extent. Now we see a spread of infestation all over the place. They seem to really hate fuwamoco, while comforting themselves with doki's fall in CCV. We can observe that they love intensifying drama amongst other agencies by making so many bait threads while everyone was laughing at Vox's hobo outfit. Of course, some of them may be just dramafags but I observed a huge spike in bait threads since that doxxsite went down.

>>74333166
From what I've seen around here, the current goal post has been shifted to June for when NijiEN is done. Looking forward to see where it shifts after that.

>>74338047
Can confirm, I'm only arguing around here because the other place is down. Personally idgaf about fwmc.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

>>74338893
>Doki can't crack 5k ccv on a buff game
Grim
>Mint leeching off the Roach and Henya
Grimmer
>Elira a sub 2k shitter
Grimmest

>>74339251
Is Bunny Garden a buff game for EN though? I know for JP it's a mega buff game, but for EN I'm not sure

>>74306480
Is she doing better than that old timey cartoon chick that twitter sisters failed even harder to actually watch

>>74341604
It's a flavor of the month coomer game, it's definitely a buff

>>74308100
>Retarded incoherent babbling
Sure sis.. fun fact doki made over 1300$ in supas today.. not even counting the 100 gifted memberships which is like another 500$, and with only a 30% cut as compared to a 65% cut she'd have if she were still selen, ANOTHER FUN FACT, She has out earned every single nijisanji vtuber both EN AND JP these past 3 months, even the golden boy kuzuha

>>74338047
It's fine. They'll fizzle out after a while as long as they don't get a new place to congregate. Hopefully they'll fade away entirely after the branch closes soon.
>>74341604
It is not for her audience.

>>74343961
AIEEEE SISTERS DONT LOOK

>>74306480
She never was good, thats why she was at kurosanji

I remember a lot of thread complaining about how she kept playing Apex and it was still bad

or the time that shortly after losing a tournament she descended into madness

>>74333401
>>74333599
Faith is a powerful force indeed, it is true. We have our own faith – not in one of our number raised to godhood, but in a mutual destiny that cannot be denied.

>>74347175
>reddit spacing

>>74338893
>Compares a gacha game stream to a collab with a Vshoujo and a hentai game stream

So Elira is winning. Thanks for clarifying

>>74347493
Fucking sayu gets better numbers on her gacha streams than Elira right now.

>>74343961
yeah but her numbers is still dropping and she is getting beaten by the main niji branch top livers regularly. the superchats is pretty good i'd give you that, guess putting that rope in her neck twice and failed both times is really effective to gain a long saviourfag buff. Im glad her weight broke the rope twice, or else she would not be here streaming for you faggoons.

>>74348998
>post an eternal 3view
rumao

>>74347718
>Twitch numbers
Kek

>>74348998
holy shit why her eyelid looks like saggy balls

>>74306480
there was always going to be regression to the mean. she would have to be doing genuinely broadly appealing streams to hold on to the full audience, and she's never done that before.

>>74349527
You're right. They're worth even more considering I should be slashing elira's numbers by half for Niji's cut.

>>74348998
>She is getting beaten by the main niji livers
nijinigger, stop huffing the copium and start worrying about your own livers

>>74348998
>main branch numbers
that's not even true, depending on the metric. She's made more money than even Kuzuha in the same timeframe. And this is before sponsorships, collaborations, merch, not needing to give 98% to Niji, and having real fucking managers helping her instead of hindering her like when they kneecapped Salome.

>>74333008
nijifags like you really love to downplay mental illness and suicide as attention seeking , honestly niji should burn

>>74349820
>CCV = money

Sayufags aren't the brightest bunch

>>74350171
They are when she's showered in ads, sponsorships, and subs every single stream.
She got a second genshin sponsored ad just this month.

>>74306480
Yeah. She was never going to stay in the limelight forever. She did well, she shit on niji and she's carved out a successful nitch for herself. I hope she continues being a success as her own identity rather than the nijikiller

>>74350013
kuzuha is literally doing jp events and concerts this year. he earns more money than selen, selen cannot dance and perform in a concert unless she wants to look like a fucking retarded bish. she is not an idol, and she will never be one unless she lose some meat in the future and trains her dancing ability :)

>>74351239
Her birthday concert was higher quality than the entire branch's AR Live kek

>>74306480
Dramafags don't care about her anymore. Did you really think they were watching for her? Lmao

>>74351239
yeah, selen can't dance but she sure as hell tried.
As for the remaining livers, tHeY aRe NoT iDoLs, so dAnCiNg iS nOt An oBliGaTiOn

>>74350536
>Scarle completely mogs most of Nijisanji despite being one of the least viewed Nijis

Like I said, Sayufags aren't the brightest

>>74354116
>seriously using scarle as a gotcha to sayu
>she lacks critical information

>>74354213
That Scarle said over and over again that she loves being in Niji and has plans that go through 2 years? Kek, you retards don't watch streams.

>>74354213

>>74306480
>Do dramafags get bored that easily?
Yes, and also she's not for me. I subscribed to her after all the shit went down, but then I unsubscribed like a month ago after these started popping up in my recommendations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I69GxiveSM8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqa4FTbEQE4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vjfyBZMFRM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeoSCVBhHdY

>>74306480
>Do dramafags get bored that easily?
That's kind of the whole point of being a dramafag. Going from one drama to the next. If there's no more drama, they leave.

I was going to watch doki's stream but my internet had other plans :/

>>74356601
>>74356564
>the sisters still lack critical information, and instead keep reposting the things they don't understand.
kek
What's next? Gonna say the lawyer's fake because the canadian one agreed with everything he said?

>>74357268
>Thinks a "lawyer" that has never seen actual case and doesn't know what constitutes as defamation is credible
>Thinks the Canadian lawyer debunking that Doki was unjustly terminated and that Niji broke privacy laws means the grifter was correct

Sayufags aren't the brightest

>>74357573
Hey, what's that last line say? I'm sure even as ESL as you are, you can understand what it means, right?

>>74357654
It doesn't say "grifter lawyer is completely right, never question him again". Keep on trying though, retard

>>74357714
It also doesn't say that Doki was unjustly terminated and specifically states that Nijisanji was a piece of shit. You can't weasel your way out of this, sister. This was YOUR "lawyer" saying he fucking hates your company.

Dramafag doesn't mean anything. You can be angry at a vtuber for doing donothon and then bouncing/graduating and some queer cockmongling cumslut will call you a dramafag for complaining about grifting whores. As long as this board is full of the absolute most subhuman kinds of simps in the universe worshiping whores it will always suck ass.

>>74357793
Yeah, his stream you didn't watch says Doki wasn't able to sue for unjust termination. Reality is more than "this person said fuck niji so all their words that clear Nijisanji aren't applicable anymore", you child. Normal people don't play retarded allegiance wars

>>74357926
>Normal people don't play retarded allegiance wars
says the sister defending Nijisanji over one of the most respected and beloved people in vtubing, along with everyone that's ever worked with her directly.

>>74357654
>Niji actively farming Ls
Nijisisters don't learn to this day do they

>>74306480
>almost 700k subs in 2 months
>4-5k ccv
Get your own chuubas above 400 first Nijifag

>>74357997
>Immediately plays allegiance wars

nijiniggers should really learn to shut up and stop continuing to take Ls

stupid fucking retard, Selen never got big numbers. Elira always was bellow her. in fact, it's a miracle and testament to her fans that she's doing so good despite being nuclear toxic right now. She used to hover around 3k fairly often even before the drama
Also I am a mentally deranged sister

>>74350013
>She's made more money than even Kuzuha in the same timeframe.
You're insane, Kuzuha literally just had one of the biggest vtuber concerts. Superchats were never their only or their biggest income anyway, and Kuzuha had to do his idol reps leading him to streaming less recently. Not to mention the constant PRs he gets, you'd have to be out of touch with reality if you think Doki made anywhere near as much as him, even with her early drama buff.
>>74352757
NijiEN twitter trannies are retarded too, a lot of successful (main branch) Nijis do idol stuff and partially market themselves as such, although not to the point that Holo does it, obviously. But they see idol culture as horrible and toxic so they want to close their eyes and pretend NONE of the livers play into being idols, which is just plain wrong.
All of you guys really need to stop bringing NijiJP into this argument because it's clear you don't know shit about it.

>>74359092
counterpoint:

>>74359168
That's only for merch, they have a lot of other money incomes. Specifically, they get the most out of voice packs and I'm pretty sure they get a high % from PRs. Of course, opportunities do differ between their top and lower-end livers, but the ones at the top earn good money, while the others still earn enough to get by and live comfortably.

>>74359443
Oh yeah, I'm sure the top 5 members can live comfortably. All 5 of them. Out of over 300 organs.

>>74359443
Doki gets 100% of everything though.
100% of merch
100% of sponsorship
100% of superchat
100% of streamlabs
See where I'm going with this?

80% of the money is made through merch, that is actually the biggest item on the list. Anycolor cutting the talents out of the merch revenue is essentially cutting them out of 80% of the money.

>>74306843
The average Biboo stream mogs her.

>>74359531
What does that prove? It says nothing about the amount of revenue individual members get. I think this whole drama just proved the majority of people here are SEAtards

>>74359612
she's in another dimension haha
she probably also mogs the entire nijien

Here's something that will melt the schizo's mind: Hating Dooki doesn't make you a Nijisister. You can hate both Niji and Dooki.

>>74307660
...She collaborated with Froot. Not Zen.

https://www.youtube.com/live/zSdgYLOoz3M?si=A7-SN0NzXo1TNi-x

>>74359747

using logic on 4chan .. begone demon we only deal hatred and illogic here

>>74307878
This
and has been 2 months of it.
even the most Telenovela fan gonna cut from this sooner or later
shiting on kurosanji is like kicking the mince meat that was once a horse

>>74359747
No but it does make you a retard whose only personality trait is "I hate what everyone else likes."

Which makes it even more ironic to use a hololive image to do it with.

>>74359757
Collabing with Froot is worse. Imagine collabing someone who supported the harassment of a friend because troons were upset that she played a wizard game while your entire legacy revolves around you being a victim of "harassment"

>>74359531
>>74359553
I don't know why you guys are trying so hard to argue here, Niji's top livers are super well off. For example, it's easy for Kanae to buy a new 1m yen mic whenever he feels like it.
You think just because Doki got all the dramafag attention for like a month she's suddenly at the top of the vtuber world, sure she beats NijiEN but it stops there. Again, I'm talking about the main branch, and that's the one you guys don't know shit about so stop trying to use it for your arguments.

>>74359443
Yeah, I can't wait for him to do all that work for Holostars after Niji liquidates when Riku jumps ship.

>>74360002
Honestly? Shitposting because I'm bored.
I don't really know nor care about NijiJP and just want them out of EN so they'll leave my girls alone and take their god awful fanbase with them.

>>74359925
She didn't support the harassment of a friend nijisis. And you're already moving goalposts.

>>74360002
Nobody really knows anything about NijiJP, I barely know who Kanae is

>>74360097
Kanae's that guy who gave Selen a necklace one time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhHcEDVBkb8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laH7OUdPZ9A

>>74360088
>Of a friend
KEKAROO. Ok, coworker. Whatever you want to call it. She sided with the troons harassing her coworker

>>74360242
She didn't do that either.

>>74360242
NTA. but either your talking about getting money for trans causes, which Silver has done as well, or that single misinterpreted tweet, that Froot and Silver had a half dozen collabs together afterwards. This Froot hates Silver thing is manufactured drama.

>>74360306
Explain what she meant by "we all make mistakes" after Silvervale was harassed into hiding by trannies

>>74360339
That nobody deserves to get harassed over mistakes, perceived or real.

>>74308758
When will people shut the fuck up with this Gura killer shit, she streams twice a year, she's the true Gura killer.
>blah blah blah she mogs everyone else when she does stream for the first time in 6 months
Of course she does, all the tourists that never watch other vtubers are going to crawl out of the woodwork when she decides to actually stream. But sure, stay a loyal chumbud paying your monthly dues and buying all her merch, chumbuds are the sole reason she only has to stream twice a year.

>>74360143
This was a peak moment because Kanae’s like a perfect human being in too many areas, like the stereotypical “good at everything” anime character that’s mega popular with everyone and is seemingly attractive enough to get both guys and girls. Seeing him interact with Selen so nicely at the time was great food for “I wonder how many people are jealous” rrat lmao

>>74361209
>Seeing him interact with Selen so nicely at the time was great food for “I wonder how many people are jealous” rrat lmao
Why would his interactions with Selen be any different than his interactions with anyone else though? It's not anything out of the norm for him and Selen isn't special.

>>74361464
He gave her an expensive necklace he was wearing because she gave him a handmade gift. It made Kanato seethe that she got it. She was genuinely liked by everybody she met. (Except maybe Kanato that day.)

Believe it or not, Selen WAS special and she had a crazy effect on everyone she interacted with.

>>74361628
You don't need to tell me the context of the clip you saw, I know what happened. Kanae is genuinely like that with everyone, he gave her the necklace because he didn't have anything else he could give her back as a gift. It's on brand for him, it's not some special treatment only Selen got.
>Selen WAS special and she had a crazy effect on everyone she interacted with
She's really not as good or important as you're making her out to be here. The reason for her above average relevancy as Doki is drama and you know it.

>>74361816
Maybe you should stop coping and start sending money to Niji if you want them to actually survive past June.