/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

why is it that the worst people like mori and elira get the most preferential treatment from mods

>>74333931
why did Mint snap Henya's neck? she's facing in the wrong direction

>>74333931
who gives a fuck retard stop spamming your numbertranny threads

>>74333931
I do think it's funny that Elira is shoved down everyone's throat constantly and she's still less popular than Pomu and Selen who were shit on by management (Elira). It's just bad business.

>>74334451
Go cry more about Doki tranny

>>74334842
I don’t give a shit about nijisanji or your indies retard.
Kill yourself dramafaggot
>>>/vt/numbers
>>>/vt/lig

>>74335918
>Seething at /lig/
Lol we run the board outside your corpo circlejerks.

>>74333931
I feel like mint is going the Haruka route where she will just collab with vshojo members and then actually join vshojo sometime after

>>74333931
I'll never understand why Niji gave Elira so many merch endorsements and opportunities. Was it really just favourtism or did she organize this with her position like the rrats say? She has never performed well enough to deserve it.

>>74336000
>shilling troon central

>>74335918
>don’t give a shit about nijisanji
>don’t give a shit about indies
Then what are you doing here other than being an angry tranny?
>Kill yourself dramafaggot
I don't know, you sound a lot like any other random sister

>>74336033
probably. She's definitely being prepped for it. Gunrun loves vtubers but even that should have a limit if she's not actually part of his agency.
...Unless she's really a temporary thing and she'll end up being a vshojo plant in hololive

>>74336398
>Niji gave Elira?
Elira gave Elira

>>74336398
Think corpo bullshit with managers asking for 4h meetings twice a week with projects and ideas that don't make sense and lead nowhere but they want to go through with it because they are full of themselves.
They wanted Elira to be the girl representative so they shot everything else down even if it was stupid just to protect their positions and visions.
That's the vibe NijiEN gives.

>>74337147
Yeah, it's fucking insane how much they pushed Elira compared to the other girls. Them just doubling down AGAIN after the 8th elira merch batch collecting dust in the storehouse just out of japanese pride would be believable to an extent.

>>74336506
>Then what are you doing here
I know a lot of you came from reddit but every time you make a new thread it pushes down actual generals.

>>74337408
totally unreal. it was unironically detrimental to their business result since Pomu and Selen made so much more

>>74333931
why do you care about their numbers when you watch none of these?

>>74337757
seethe more :3

>>74336656

>>74334451
numberfags rule this site and you know it

>>74337757
I watch Doki and I care because Nijisanji crushed her confidence as a streamer and it's a miracle she came out of this alive, let alone came back as a streamer still.
I also watch Sayu, and occasionally Mint if neither of the former are on, and all 3 of them were soul crushing to watch for the first few months after coming back. It's fantastic to see them finally thriving after escaping the company's clutches.

>>74333931
>Quit Nijikek
>Numbers go up x2-3 times

I guess it could be worse, at least she is not FInana

>>74339279
Is Sayu thriving tho? It looks like she surviving, making a living, but thriving seems a stretch.

>lose more than year's worth of sub growth, causing the algorithm you bury you alive
was it worth it?

>>74336656
whatta fuck this mean?

>>74342569
She just returned from a week long vacation to Hawaii. So she's not hurting for money

>>74342569
Absolutely. She's not gonna reach current holo levels or anything crazy any time soon, but she's slowly recovering from her Niji trauma and her viewer count is consistently rising every day. Her streams always snowball viewers, which is extremely unusual even if you count raids. People who find their way to her tend to stay for hours listening to her yap and chat with them.

On top of that, she's getting much healthier emotionally now, and she even got one of her biggest bullies from the termination era to publicly walk back his statements and end hostilities. She's on cloud nine right now.

>>74342569
I mean her numbers kind of suck but her numbers kind of sucked as Zaion too, but at least now she's happy while doing it.

>>74339983
>>74339983
Yeah.. about that...

>>74333931
top fucking kek

>>74343547
chink and gook fujos dont want muscular men

>>74339279
Mint hasn't even been streaming for a month yet.

>>74339983
>>74343547
G..guys? I was in Niji too...

stop attacking elira, she did not deserve to be hated on. she made a mistake with the message video but she had to make a reply after nijisanji's termination note implied that the livers bullied selen. we still have no proof of any bullying ever occured to this day, nobody has shown proof. elira deserves better than to get hunted down with dislike brigades and getting bullied on her vod comments section, it's downright cruel doing this to a girl. what if the hate gets into her head and you made her did what selen did ? have some empathy and positivity.

>>74343929
>Hey Elira, can you host this slander campaing on your channel?

>No thanks, I dont want to be involved in this, leave to management

is this simple

>>74343929
I know this is bait but this reads exactly like those subhumans

>>74343929
>positivity
Ok which niji organ are you?

>>74343929
>what if the hate gets into her head and you made her did what selen did ?
stop that you'll make these anons extra horney

>>74343929
she managed to surpass millie as most hated niji thats really impressive il give her that

>>74333931
>Doki loses the majority of her audience from the first month and is struggling to reach 5k on a buff game
>Mint has also lost a majority of her fanbase and can only reach 7k even with the buff collab with Henya

Meanwhile Elira still has her usual numbers playing a fucking gacha game. You lost

>>74343929
POOR EWIWA... SHE JUST HAS FULL CONTROL OVER THE NIJIEN BRANCH, WHICH SHE HAS INFESTED WITH HER IRL FRIENDS AND HANAMORI PARASITES ENSURING FULL CONTROL WHILE HARASSING ANYONE WHO TRIES TO DO THINGS THEIR OWN WAY...
POOR LITTLE EWIWA, SHE JUST HAS HER POCKETS FILLED WITH MONEY BECAUSE OF ALL THE UNDESERVED PROMOTIONS AND DEALS SHE GETS ALTHOUGH HER FINANAS ARE SHIT
Yeah, no fuck her NijiEN is the trashfire it is because of her (filling the place with garbage and leeching the money)

>>74343887
Yeah and she's still pretty fucking depressed. Did you watch her comeback stream? I thought the whole "oh haha I wasn't even sure if I'd come back" was some kind of weird kayfabe, but no she genuinely almost left forever.

>>74343929
She didn't have to reply. I want to give her the benefit of the doubt, but there was so much slander and crocodile tears that she's going to need a VERY good explanation for this if she ever wants to shake this gigantic fucking stain on her record. I know the only time I'll ever come back to watch her is if she's directly explaining herself and apologizing both to her fans and the people directly hurt by that video.

>>74344034
Yeah but at the same time, she has something resembling an alibi if you go with the "she could have had her visa held hostage" or something, but that is a VERY generous interpretation of events that'll need her to actually leave in order to acknowledge anything.

>>74343205
>Delusional Sayufag: She totally came out of the Kenji drama winning

You mean she reminded everyone of her drama, celebrated someone getting doxxed, was talked into apologizing for starting the whole thing and she called herself a menhera and admitting to lying about him doxxing her? While Kenji apologized for nothing he said or did publicly and just told people to not hate her? Kek

>>74344288
>1k is Elira's "usual numbers"
OOF

>>74344513
Mint has had low self confidence well before Nijisanji. It's due to her family if you've actually heard her family stories.

>>74344288
Last I checked, 5k and 7k are bigger than 1k(minus corpo cuts)

>>74344288
>comparing debut numbers.
You really wanna go this route?

It's especially stupid if you consider their averages in niji, even during their peak.

>>74336398
>Niji gave Elira
Easy to get merch endorsements when you're the one in charge of handing them out.

>>74344803
And views suddenly matter? Using Doki and Mint who have fallen hard compared to when they first started while Elira is consistent even post drama is your loss.

>>74344839
>"Her first month"
>So YOU'RE COMPARING DEBUTS
Learn to read English, you fat retard. They both fell. Doki post debut still had well over 20k views most of the time. What happened?

>>74344288
This is some high grade nijicopium
I'm pretty sure Mint and Doki are bigger than they ever were in Niji

Imagine what could have been if instead of wasting money in this absolute failure known as Elira, Nijisanji used those resources in real TALENTS like Selen or Pomu

>>74344871
You guys can all believe she's a manager, doesn't make it true. Putting aside the lack of evidence for that, I don't even know what originally started that crackpot theory, outside of some retarded rrat

>>74342727
>>74339084

>>74345612
>Selen
>Talented

Her only talent is grifting. She can't sing, she isn't funny, she can't draw, she can't dance and she isn't even good at games like she advertises. Every girl in NijiEN is ten times more talented including Pomu

>>74334049
>mori
Because she signed a music deal and is cover's bitch, while gura refuses to cooperate.
>elira
Because she subverted the managerial team to her benefit.

>>74345892
Kill yourself sister.

>>74343929
she has history of being generally a bad person.. people like her tend to survive even in an apocalypse.
she wont khs, i bet she would kill one

>>74346578
>Every girl in NijiEN is ten times more talented including Pomu
Sister Pomu is gone, you can pretend all you want in the lazulight thread, but she is never coming back to that shithole

>74346578
>selen vs pomu
trying a little too hard SEAschizo kek

>>74346839
>>74346894

I see you faggots have no argument, I accept your concession

Don't kid yourself SEA creature, everyone knows you're not "arguing" in good faith

Just ban numberfags and there will be an end to the horror.

>>74347067
lmao
cant accept to see that others are thriving and their oshi's career is dying

>>74346578
good thing none of those are actually required to be a good entertainer. All she needs to do is... create entertaining content, which she pulled off in spades. She doesn't need to sing "well" if she instead catches your eyes and ears with fun visuals and true, wholesome effort.
Also
>Doki
>Can't draw
You do... know she's an artist, right? Like that was her job before Niji?

>>74347351
TBF those have been Elira's finanas since before the Selen Drama... Meaning that Elira' vtubing "career" has long been dead

>>74346578
>she can't sing
She can't sing well, yes. This is established, and she admits this.
>she isn’t funny
Subjective, but there are plenty who disagree with you.
>she can't draw
Objectively false
>She can't dance
Is not as good at dancing as Pomu, the idol geek. This is a criticism for almost all of Nijisanji EN as well, this isn't unique to Selen.
>Every girl in Niji EN is ten times more talented
All Elira knows is to sing and yap.
All Millie knows is to sing and yap.
All Finana knows is to sing and yap.
All Enna knows is to sing and yap.
All Reimu knows is to sing and yap, albeit she knows a lot of languages.
Petra is like Reimu but also does some technical stuff behind the scenes.
Scarle yaps and streams like she has no need for sleep.
Aia can draw and kinda sing.
Maria can do a lot desu, I'll say she probably deserved to be an early gen Niji instead of 6th wave.
Vivi's doodles are cute.
Kunai's just kinda there.

Selen's a former Apex pred and has achieved top 500 Overwatch ranked stats iirc. She has networked for Niji EN through FPS games more than her fellow Wave 1-3 peeps have achieved in their entire time in the corpo. I'm not even discussing a subjective concept here like "how talented she is", I'm listing her achievements. I don't really care what you believe a talented Vtuber should be, but goddamn everyone else in early Niji EN was the same cookie cutter type of vtuber. Sing, be cute, and yap. If you like that, more power to you ig. But Selen was different and she did things no one else in her branch had done or will ever do, and this is a fact.

>>74333931
Dokie really should upgrade her l2d model

NijisanjiEN... More like Hanamori and friends!

>>74347585
She's working on it. The design was finalized a few weeks ago, so it's up to the artist and rigger now.

>>74345000
>And views suddenly matter?
Considering you're using them to measure success, yes.

>>74344288
>Meanwhile Elira still has her usual numbers

>>74333931
>>74347522
>>74346706
>>74346603
>>74345612
>>74344871
I don't know what you guys are trying to achieve making these threads daily. You have never watched Elira to begin with and that samefag spamming the same picture for like 3 years now. Fameliras know Elira's number has never been good since she mostly streamed jrpg contents. 1k-2k on average, 5k on a very good day. We're just happy she didn't give up on her vtubing career. Her streaming again was great enough. We don't need whatever kind of buff. Even if you think she needed to do what you thought she should do, we know she couldn't do any of that since she's in the corpo. That's all. If you want to talk about nunberfagging and whatever that is please direct it to Vox or something. Fameliras don't care. But I'm annoyed since you kept laughing at it yet didn't know these kinds of number was what most vtubers dreamed. Honestly, sometimes it feels like you guys are laughing at vtubers for having lower number, no matter what content there was. Imagine having your oshi that was a 2 views and seeing threads like this. I'm not angry. I'm a little sad. That's all.

>>74348830
More furious at her for coming back like nothing happened with no explanation or acknowledgement of the best performing stream on her entire channel.
You can't fucking erase that.

>>74344288
Let's just ignore that she barely hit 1300 the other day with a raid I guess

>>74336656
middle management cunt

>>74347528
Elira can sing, dance and play multiple instruments
Millie and Enna can not only sing because they also writes their own songs and Millie writes her own lore. Enna also knows three languages and she is a good cook
Finana produces the most music in NijiEN, she also has the most original songs
Reimu can sing and knows a shit ton of different languages. If you're going to include Selen's gaming talent, Reimu also is great at Apex
Petra can sing, dance, knows multiple languages and plays piano.
Scarle writes her own stories , is a good cook and is one of the most creative people in the scene
Maria is talent
Vivi can draw, Kunai knows multiple languages, haven't heard them sing yet and don't know if they can play instruments yet

Selen was carried into all her gaming achievements and knowing people isn't a talent

>>74349281
"Maria is talent"

Couldn't think of anything huh sister?

>>74348830
Youre yapping like she didnt do the black screen video at the first place.. she's getting the heat FOR A REASON.. look at the new organs, there's almost no hate for them, just pity

>>74333931
stupid fucking retard, Elira never got big numbers. Pomu and Selen always mogged her. in fact, it's a miracle and testament to her fans that she's doing so good despite being nuclear toxic right now. She used to hover around 2k fairly often even before the drama

>>74346578
exactly. she has no talent beyond grifting, which I admit she is damn good at. I'm still baffled that so many demented schizos /here/ fell for her obvious bullshit, like good little bleeding heart reddit sheep. Rather disappointing.

>>74349281
>still hasn't done their selen reps
Hey, if they're so great, and Nijisanji is a fine, reputable company...
How come they STILL couldn't fucking sniff her goddamn tail by any metric other than sponsorships and merch handed them on a fucking platter? Their views always tanked behind Selen. Their merch never sold as well as Selen. They were never invited to as many events as Selen. They never organized tournaments or events like Selen. They never had actual fucking companies reaching out directly to support SELEN, not Nijisanji, and yet their collab offers always got fucking rebuffed.
Hyte mentioned how they explicitly wanted to work with Doki for a very long time, and yet Doki hasn't even BEEN an active independent vtuber for a long time.

Selen was top fucking dog for a reason. And it's incredibly obvious to anyone with a brain why her horrific loss completely killed what was left of that shithole.

>>74349562
she's good at everything, it's a compliment. She just has great charisma and presence, being talented *is* a talent.

>>74350296
no one cares about Selen, Pomu leaving was a far worse blow. niji obviously shot themselves in the foot with their bad PR, but if Pomu was still around it wouldn't have been as bad. If she hosted the video instead of Elira people would have believed her and buried Selen. The one-two punch of losing both of them at the same time was brutal.

>>74350529
>no one cares about Selen,
[citation needed]
Hey, remind me what happened on Feb 5 and 12?

>>74349562
Maria can sing, dance, draw, produces a shit ton of music, knows multiple languages, is creative, she can plays instruments and she has the air of being a real idol. She has almost all the talents a Vtuber could have except being athletic

>>74350593
>A guy gets fired from McDonald's
>McDonald's stock drops
>"It must be because they fired that fry cook"

Nice logic, bud

>>74350593
again, no one cares about Selen. what they do care about is drama, bandwagon jumping and owning le heckin ebil corpo for updoots and retweets. if Elira sperged out and faked a few suicides and Selen had the Twitter lynch mob after her things would have been the same. Nobody actually cares that it was Selen in particular, just that it was a crusade they could march against niji with.

>>74350529
Pomu leaving might have been the catalyst to the buildup of frustration and everything going down.
On a side note, it's highly, highly, highly doubtful that Pomu would ever do something like this. She was close to Selen but that's not even the reason I think that. She is extremely stubborn with those things, unlike what people who don't watch her might think.

>>74350196
They didn't fall for it, they chose to "believe it" because they want to use her as a weapon in their retarded corpo wars. The only people "believing her" are retards with an agenda or just retards

>>74350899
>>74350981
wew, the nijiseethe is incredible today.

You KNOW that shit's not even true, because they did the exact fucking thing to Sayu. Sayu didn't have enough time to get any kind of footing in the scene like Selen did, so they somehow figured that doing it a second time would be just as successful.

They give Elira more endorsements because she's more popular in Asia and speaks Japanese
The Japs are like 90/10 in favor of Elira versus Selen

>SEA hours hit
>nijiniggers crawl out of the woodwork and collectively seethe
like clockwork

>>74351173
Then what about western endorsements, like Hyte?
Nope, that went to Elira too.

i'm guessing the sister homebase is still down with this radioactive seething

>>74351157
You mean that retards couldn't use Sayu as a weapon because she's a shit person who talked about liking little boys and blamed rape victims for getting raped? Some tried and they failed because they obviously had to try making the argument that doing that shit wouldn't get any one fired in a regular job too

>>74349281
I like how everyone can sing and dance for their yearly(at most) karaoke and nothingburger song covers yet none of them seem to know how to be entertaining otherwise

>>74350196
>look mom i called something i dont like reddit!

>>74351312
>They can't entertain
Except they all can because they all have their individual fan bases. Anyone that can pull an audience can entertain, it isn't a talent otherwise Logan Paul completely shits on all Vtubers talent wise

>>74351173
japs literally changed their mind after shit was translated for them
why else were they seething on the yahoo stock page dumbass

>>74351306
you can break every rule under the sun and admit they should have fired you and still have a supportive fanbase that thinks it's the evil corporation's fault because it all boils down to Nijisanji being Hololive's biggest competitior, the retards here act like they personally own stock (crashing worse than Niji BTW)

>>74343929
>made her did what selen did

Holy shit, if you're going to use English, use it properly. Otherwise, post in Bahasa Indo, or mag-Tagalog ka na lang, motherfucker.

PS: Putang ina ka pa rin, Millie. Fuck off.

>>74351403
You get a core viewership just by being in Nijisanji; Aster still gets 200 minimum and he's the worst streamer I've ever watched
>>74351420
Americans and SEAfags raiding, check Suki-Kira for the real opinions; they know Selen is a piece of shit

>>74334049
>Putting Mori together with Elira
If nothing else, at least all Mori's friends in Hololive have only been praising her for being supportive and helpful. Don't put her together with that backstabber

>>74351420
Numberfags aren't the majority Japanese opinion and even there, some were shitting on Selen. Most of them saw it for what it is. A trouble making employee getting fired and blaming her personal issues on her job that just fired her for revenge

>>74351524
>SEAfags
>SEAfags are the only fans they have left now!!!
>SEAfags are the ones leaving the comments!!!
make up your mind

>>74349892
Took this long for someone to point this out....anons in this type of thread don't know shit

>>74334049
I get the wigger hate, but the worst she did to a colleague was out of unbelievably stupid carelessness (Gura and 'shenanigans').

What Elira & Co. did to Selen is many, many degrees worse, in both intent and harm.

>>74351651
They're like 90% of the fanbase so they can fill every role but they're sure as fuck not Japanese stockholders

>>74351173
And that's why EN management is retarded. They seem to only care about who is popular in Japan, not who is popular on a global scale.

>>74351306
Oh, you mean the claims walked back by the accuser in an apology a few days ago?
You girls aren't very bright, are you?

>>74351926
Are you so fucking retarded you think it was one faggot that got her fired? She got herself fired after Twitter collectively decided she was a piece of shit pedophile. How much of a tourist are you? Plus this faggot didn't apologize for calling her a pedophile or a rapist either, just that she wasn't one

>>74352156
>the sister SHRIEKS when confronted with evidence that doesn't conform to her false reality! (which is all of it)

>>74333931
straight from le reddit lmao

>>74333931
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA GET FUCKED YOU BLUE-HAIRED BITCH

>>74351157
it's not the same, it would have been a lot more difficult for casual retards to support her because a) she didn't try to off herself for maximum pity, and b) rape jokes don't go over well with the woke zoomers that comprise the core of the Fagoon army

>>74351352
a female redditor wrote this

>>74354019
yeah sure sister. It's totally that and not that Sayu was a literal who 3view who got the second worst smear campaign ever conducted by a vtuber agency dropped on her fucking head.

>>74351665
I'm convinced most of them are just holokeks stirring shit, they just want niji to fail and parrot whatever clickbait headlines and buzzwords about niji they have seen

>>74354019
Hah. Fucking babies as usual... Just cuz someone tells dark jokes they aren't a bad person fuckhead

>>74352235
The evidence Sayu is a pedophile is her saying so. The evidence to her saying rape victims deserve it is her saying so. "But she was talking about shota-" so what? That still makes her a pedophile to Twitter and all the pedo hunting DBZ posters

>>74343547
>>74343891
His twitch avg on twitchtracker is 650 and youtube avg on playboard 310
both together is pretty much his nijiEN avg, if he keep at this for the entire year, He wins
also goes to show nijiEN audience majority is disgustedly asian

>>74348830
famelira don't deserve happiness,
notsodeadpool said the words during the black stream
>I wish you the worst

>>74354222
Yeah, by that logic Hex is a grave defiler, animal torturer, Vox is a rapist and bestiality enthusiast, and Enna is a potential murderer and actual child porn consumer and distributor. You sure you want to go down this route?

>>74354419
wait fucking notsodeadpool said that? I remembered seeing his superchats constantly. That's pretty rough for her. Hope he finds a new oshi.

I hope EliraSavedMyLife is still okay.

>>74344288
Doki has about twice the base audience she had in niji. On stupid games she would usually get around 1500 ccv and now on those same games he's getting 3,000 ccv. With the fact that she's ending now and getting a much bigger cut, she's doing a lot better.

>>74354520
But Sayu wasn't joking about being a shotacon, she actually is one and none of them ever said "rape is okay". What's there to not understand? Is false equivalence all you Sayucucks can argue with?

>>74343929
>No proof of any bullying
>Selen's termination notice exposed that there was bullying
I don't know how they keep shooting themselves in the foot.

>>74354738
Sayu didn't say rape is okay either, and shotas aren't real people. Pedophilia refers to real children fucking you psychopath. Idiots like you watering down the word and distracting from REAL criminals does nothing but hurt actual children and enable REAL predators to get away with shit.

>>74350899
More like
>most popular and profitable McDonald's in the world gets lit in fire by Ronald McDonald and they announce they don't plan on rebuilding it
>McDonald's stock drops

>>74354997
>No wonder she got raped
Yup , she definitely didn't say anything close to "rape is okay" and she definitely didn't admit to being attracted to little boys

>>74355365
Ah yes.
If I say "Oh, he was walking on the street in the middle of the night with dark clothes. No wonder he got hit by a car." I am an avid hit and run enthusiast.
And the "I like little boys" was a running joke of hers due to shotas being overpowered in Genshin Impact. The statement in question was a direct response to "Why aren't you using Yelan?" and Zaion claimed "I don't like mommies. I like little boys."
This line of reasoning would've had Enna, Vox, and Hex jailed years ago.

>>74354738
nijiniggers be like "uwu it's just a joke uwu" whenever it's about their oshis

>>74355573
Except she saw a naked rape victim and said "no wonder she got raped". Not even close to the same thing. Also we've already established she's an actual shotacon, she wasn't just joking. You can stop coping now

>>74355706
>naked rape victim and intentionally misquoting her
Sisters are not sending their best today, huh? Running out of steam without your updoots? Did you even watch any of the clips in question?
>actual shotacon, she wasn't just joking
Proof next thread, right?

>>74355852
>"Intentionally misquoting "
>Is actually what she said before she stopped herself
Kek.
>No she isn't an actual shotacon, she just said she liked little boys and had to clarify she was talking about anime little boys
Sayufags are pathetic

>>74350981
and niji deserves it. or are you saying otherwise?

>>74356285
OK then. You want to talk about little boys? Let's talk about people who've SPECIFICALLY talked about real little boys. Actual human children with names, addresses, and identities. And Enna's complete and utter misuse of their photographs.


>Drunk Enna shares CP with Ethyria in their discord chat:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv-7Jzz6mos&t=8869s [Embed]
>Enna: want to see a picture of my favorite child when I worked with them in Japan?
>Enna: I like children, yeah they are cute
>The rest says positive random stuff while Enna is looking for the picture. But once she post it in their discord chat:
>Enna: HAHAHAHA THIS ONE
>Enna: don't... (likely as in don't describe it)
>Reimu: OH MY GOD!
>Nina: Oh God!
>Millie: This will get you cancelled Babu. I think you should delete it.
>Reimu: yeah
>Enna: It is so cute tho
>Reimu and Millei: no it is not
>Enna:It is cute, he is so cute. It is my favorite kid.
>Nina: Oh my God!
>Enna: hahahaha
>Reimu: Oh right, that was something! Jesus Can we move on the next topic?
>Nina: YEAH, YEAH, YEAH...
>Enna: Wait I have a really cute one. WAIT Looking for it

Wanna explain to me your defense for this one? This is a REAL human child.

>>74356958
Obviously the cliquers get a pass
next they are going to argue with you that it's not counted because they don't mean it, it's just "cute"

>>74355662
just a joke uwu
https://files.catbox.moe/ezw1h9.mp4

>>74356958
It's a real human child? Have you seen the photo? You haven't? Then shut the fuck up because you don't know what you're talking about. Didn't your mother ever tell you to not say anything if you don't know anything?

>>74357438
>It's a real human child? Have you seen the photo? You haven't? Then shut the fuck up because you don't know what you're talking about. Didn't your mother ever tell you to not say anything if you don't know anything?
Huh, weird. So have you seen the children Sayu's preyed on? Do you have real proof that she's attracted to human children? Have you ever heard her say "Man, I sure love raping people. I love how that real human being got raped and hope it happens more often!"

>>74357571
I have seen her say "I'm into little boys" and "No wonder she got raped". You think anyone cares about it not being a real rape victim? That kind of logic exists outside of fiction too. She even apologized for it so why are you retards still insisting she did nothing wrong?

>>74357645
> You think anyone cares about it not being a real rape victim?
hoo boy, you really want to go down this route?


>Drunk Enna shares CP with Ethyria in their discord chat:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv-7Jzz6mos&t=8869s [Embed]
>Enna: want to see a picture of my favorite child when I worked with them in Japan?
>Enna: I like children, yeah they are cute
>The rest says positive random stuff while Enna is looking for the picture. But once she post it in their discord chat:
>Enna: HAHAHAHA THIS ONE
>Enna: don't... (likely as in don't describe it)
>Reimu: OH MY GOD!
>Nina: Oh God!
>Millie: This will get you cancelled Babu. I think you should delete it.
>Reimu: yeah
>Enna: It is so cute tho
>Reimu and Millei: no it is not
>Enna:It is cute, he is so cute. It is my favorite kid.
>Nina: Oh my God!
>Enna: hahahaha
>Reimu: Oh right, that was something! Jesus Can we move on the next topic?
>Nina: YEAH, YEAH, YEAH...
>Enna: Wait I have a really cute one. WAIT Looking for it

OK, defend this then. This isn't just a fictional kid. This is a REAL HUMAN BEING. An ACTUAL CHILD. a REAL VICTIM. Are you going to defend THIS bullshit but get mad because Sayu said something funny about a bunch of pixels?

>>74357733
Can you read?>>74357438

>>74357784
Can you read? >>74357571

As usual with nijisanji fans, rules for thee but not for me when judging who is guilty or not. If you care so much about children maybe go join child protection services and protect REAL CHILDREN instead of yapping online

>>74357824
Already responded to that. The evidence of her believing this is her own words. You have no evidence, you have delusions. You lose. I await your visit at the mental ward

>>74357989
So you're believing her jokes as fact? Then Vox is a rapist, Enna is a murderer, and Hex is both an animal torturer AND someone who desecrated family ashes.

Either all words are real or you're full of shit, sister.

>>74358022
Except those people are clearly joking. Sayu wasn't joking about being into shotas. And she acknowledges that her rape jokes were fucking terrible and inappropriate. Why are you still defending her for something she knows she fucked up on? False equivalences on top of false equivalences

>>74358022
Also Vox never made rape jokes. I know you're the same anon who insisted he did but started coping after he found no evidence

>>74358343
No way. They were dead serious. All of them had no setup or punchilne and were clearly just recounting stories or opinions that had no humor whatsoever. Why are you still defending them for something they know they fucked up on? False equivalences on top of false equivalences. Hell, Enna even got REAL CHILDREN involved! She's a menace to children and needs to be in fucking jail!

>>74358459
>Continues larping like Sayu isn't a self admitted shotacon
I accept your concession

>>74358501
>refuses to acknowledge that jokes can be jokes by deflecting
I accept your concession

>>74358343
lol the fact that they did not dare to acknowledge how horrible their "jokes" were shows what kind of people they are. and who decides that those people are joking? Do you decide? It's no surprise why the entire chat was telling him to STOP and the video got dislike bombed

>>74354419
>>74354563
>notsodeadpool
He can go away for all I care. I and many others have followed her far longer than him. If he can't even trust in his oshi then he doesn't deserve any oshi and should leave this hobby forever. If he ever tried to come back, we will forever lock him out.
>I hope EliraSavedMyLife is still okay
Thank you anon

>>74358528
>>74358501
Accept deez nuts nijinigger

>>74358343
>Those people are clearly joking
>But nijisisters have to keep explaining the "joke" to everyone
When the offensiveness outweighs the comedy, it's no longer a joke, nijinig

>>74358547
Yeah, I can't trust Elira right now, but I don't have any ill will towards the fans that still support her. I know what it's like to have an oshi that people despised and hated, and I'm willing to hear her out, but she's going to actually have to release her side before I can take her seriously again.

>>74358542
Because a joke about a goldfish isn't applicable to a joke about rape where the punchline is the person telling the joke implying that rape victims deserve to be raped. You're autistic so you wouldn't get it

>LISTEN YOU DONT UNDERSTAND! ELIRA HAS ALWAYS STREAMED FOR SHIT FINANAS, THOSE ARE HER REGULAR NUMBERS... SO IF ANYTHING THAT IS A TESTAMENT OF HER LOYAL FANS AND SHE NOT BEING AFFECTED BY THE DRAMA, SO ELIRA WON
Literal bug people way of thinking, the Chinese are conditioned to believe any stupid bullshit as long as it makes their leaders look like winners
>ACTUALLY ELIRA IS POPULAR IN JAPAN BECAUSE SHE SPEAKS JAPANESE
Right, so where is that Japanese audience? Because if that is it, it is even more pathetic than I thought it was
>STOP BEING MEAN TO ELIRA SCHIZOS
Pointing reality is mean now? You sisters truly are CCP followers

>>74358686
And? Both are bad. Why tf are you completely excusing playing with a dead person's ashes and torturing a goldfish?

>>74358686
So people who don't get the joke are autistic? Is that your pathetic defense for their behavior? It's the fault of the consumer that they did not enjoy our product? Fking nijicucks

>>74358759
>Even more false equivalences
Is this all you faggots can do? The joke Hex made is a sociopath not understanding why someone would be upset at someone flushing their goldfish down the toilet and someone using ashes as fertilizer. Zaion's joke was just that attractive people deserve getting raped. Not all jokes are created equally

>>74358861
yes, these subhumans are literally too autistic to understand the joke
i expect this kind of shit from reddit but this is really just sad
t. niji anti

>>74358861
>>74358982
samefag nijinigger, stop talking to yourself

>>74359017
sure thing schizo
take your meds btw

>>74358861
not all jokes created equally means hex gets excused, while sayu has to apologize and get harassed, got it

>>74359059
you first nijinig. Wait I forgot you are too busy sucking riku dick

>>74359058
Yes, Hex's joke was a humorous story about a little psychopath child not understanding why people were so upset at him. Zaion's joke was just an edgy statement where she explains that she can see where rapists are coming from. Saying that can make the audience really mad while Hex's joke is clearly a fictional story.

>>74359237
"clearly a fictional story" my FOOT when you have to explain it to everyone
Or are you gonna pull the "everyone is autistic" card?
And your proof that it was fictional? Did he say it was fictional? Do you decide that it is fictional? Even if it was fictional, was it funny? Do you decide what is funny or not? Are you god?

>>74359335
you literal fucking retard
everyone who is not retarded understood it was a joke
you need it explained to you because, once again, you are a low IQ subhuman.
>did he say it was fictional
holy fucking christ you are stupid.
yes everyone has to say an obvious joke is a joke just for special ed short bus riders like you.
you fucking retard.
kill yourself.

>>74359335
Yes, if you actually believe that a story where someone doesn't know why using ashes as fertilizer is wrong is real and you believe that a goldfish actually bullied someone into murdering it, you're autistic. Jokes don't need to be explained before they happen or after

>>74359430
LOL, so when you have no arguments left, you resort to calling others retard because they couldn't get the "dark joke" that hex "doublestandard" haywire. Good to know that nijiwhores like you keep gobbling slop like a whore does

>>74359237
Yeah, it's such a "joke" you sisters have to constantly cover for him. It's such an easily understood "joke" and not just an edgy statement where he told about how he was an animal torturer who fucking ruined a family member's ashes. Even his collab partner wasn't buying the "joke."

>>74359467
Surprise surprise, ppl who do this do exist, and far worse things happen. You are simply a frog in the well who does not believe that it's true due to how ridiculous it is to you

>>74359430
nijiniggers with 39IQ accusing others of low IQ be like:

>>74359477
You mean his collab partner that was in on the joke and feigned shock? It's not surprising that Sayufags are autistic and never had actual friends though
>>74359528
Yeah, a lot of people get bullied by goldfish all the time. Anyone who doesn't realize how harmful getting bullied by a goldfish can be has just been living under a rock

>>74348830
Fuck of Millie

>>74350196
NIJISEETHE

>>74359706
Hex is a known bpd menhera though. He clearly was too mentally ill to think straight, hence the fucking animal torture and ash defiling. How can you possibly defend this? He's horrible!

>>74358547
Based. Fuck that guy, he wasn't even loyal and just hopped on the drama train like anyone would congratulate him for doing so

>>74359706
And your point being? That it's ridiculous someone would flush a goldfish down a toilet for being offended by it? Cats get burned alive over a stove for far less in China, it's really not that ridiculous of a reason in the minds of animal abusers

>>74359706
Anon would you believe me if I told you someone blended a live goldfish because he was curious

>>74359923
If that person was you, I'd believe it wholeheartedly. If we're taking Hex at his word and acting like he isn't joking, the goldfish actually bullied him and Hex genuinely thought the fish could outswim the toilet

>>74333931
>organ
What the fuck does that even mean

>>74360015
Ah so it boils down to "BUT HEX WOULDN'T..."
Alright then, no commento

>>74343929
>Show some empathy and positivity.
Back at you and her, don’t host a slander campaign and expect the internet to not want you out of the business.
God I hope this is a liver because Nijisis being parhetic got boring, I want to see their desperation for once.

>>74360085
>Makes shit up
>"WHY DON'T YOU BELIEVE ME"
classic

>>74360015
So why not? He had a psychotic episode and killed an animal during it. That's pretty fucking awful.

>>74354222
Why don't you go on twitter then? Legal Mindset covered this the other day and confirmed that this is a criminal allegation and unless you have solid evidence, including proof that person was convicted of the crime, throwing such accusation is solid grounds for getting sued for defamation.

>>74355140
>Calls Selen the most profitable and successful Niji
I never knew you retards were so delusional

>>74360827
Well he's already wrong because being a pedophile isn't a crime, being a child molester is.

>>74360915
Nah, he isn't wrong. Calling someone a pedophile is incredibly damaging statement. Law isn't a lifeless rulebook, it takes into account real life perception too.

>>74360945
You said he said that it was a criminal allegation. It literally isn't because it isn't against the law to be a pedophile. So he's already wrong. Kenji also only called her a pedophile because she said "I'm into little boys" on camera. That's not defamation because he didn't lie, he made a reasonable conclusion on the information he had and he didn't purposely lie. Stop listening to the stalker lawyer

>>74361012
Yeah, and then he walked it back and apologized.
They even talked after and they seem relatively friendly now.

>>74360827
>invoking LM
ISHYGDDT

>>74350529
>can only support your baseless assertions with delulu fanfics
I accept your concession

>>74361044
They aren't friends, they just decided to ignore each other's existence and stop the drama. Point is the grifter just blatantly spread misinformation if he actually said being called a pedophile is an accusation of a crime

>>74361090
You know it's another nijinigger when they can't face the truth lol

>>74360048
lurk more nyfco sister

>>74350899
McDonald's isn't an entertainment company built entirely around the images of its individual cooks you absolute retard. Do you think it's the fucking Krusty Krab?

>>74333931
>FOTM shit
>Collab
>Gacha
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwn, it's a nothingburger

>>74350899
Holy shit bro, please tell me this is bait and you didn't think this comparison is actually any good. If you're serious you might legitimately be retarded.

>>74352156
>Plus this faggot didn't apologize
>we both apologized

>>74361194
No, I'm just an /hlgg/ anon

>>74361199
Ok
>Johnny Depp court case happens
>Disney stocks go down
>"I can't believe Johnny Depp crashed Disney's stocks"

Say that and see how many people point out you're retarded

>>74361316
What'd he apologize for? Cause he never said "I apologize for calling her a pedophile and saying she's a rapist sympathizer". Maybe a "I'm sorry you got hate"

>>74352156
>Yet the obvious pedophiles get to stay in Nijisanji
Hmm
Your argument has no basis

>>74361125
You can be friendly without being friends. Sayu talked today about how afterwards they got in a voice call and respect each other more now. They'll likely not interact in the future, but they at least have a better understanding now of each other and their circumstances. If only all internet arguments could be settled this way.

>>74361477
As usual, goes to show that nijisisters always think they are in the right when they reek of double standards .

>>74361411
Disney didn't tar and feather Johnny Depp, Amber Heard did. And Disney's brand isn't built around their contracted actors.
Again, false equivalence.

This thread is doing so many argument jumps that is allost entertaining to watch.
All I can say is Elira can’t die fast enough, the slop from playing P3 after the entire fanbase is sperging about Metaphor now and the hype is gona will probably be the 2view blow.

>>74361411
depp isn't a disney character, retard.
A more accurate analogy is if McDonald's stopped selling nuggets and shortly after released a statement denying the previously nonexistent rumor about their employees routinely pissing on said nuggets.

>>74361788
>>74362034
I can't believe even normies know more than you. Depp was a big part of the Pirates of the Caribbean brand and they tossed him after the Amber Heard shit. Haven't seen anyone arguing that Disney stocks dropping is because investors are seething about Depp

>>74361477
When did Twitter collectively decided he was a pedophile rapist?

>>74362435
You're retarded. We can SEE the fucking data.
Unless something else catastrophically destroyed Niji on exactly february 5, and then 12th, we can visibly see that they were on an upwards trend until exactly the day after Selen's firing, upon which they completely tanked, and then tanked AGAIN on the 13th after the black screen video.

>>74334049
I fucking hate Mori but that dirt bag nijinigger doesn't even come close.

>>74362435
They fired him because Amber Heard painted him as an abuser, they didn't release a scathing laundry list of his supposed evil deeds while working on Pirates of the Caribbean.

>>74362551
>I can predict the stock market
Wasn't even the biggest drop in their stocks, same thing happened a year ago unprompted. You think drama affects the stock markets in Japan? You're a retard, keep on mistaking correlation and causation

>>74362651
I-IT JUST HAPPENS! STOCKS FALL ALL THE TIME! YOU CAN'T PREDICT IT! THEY JUST FALL SOMETIMES

>>74362738
>Doesn't know the most basic rule about the stock market being that it's unpredictable
I know number fags knew nothing but I didn't think it bordered on genuine retardation

>>74334049
because mods are also the worst people and the worst people operate on cliques and ingroups because without it they'd have to suffer more for being the worst people

>>74334451
NIJISEETHE

>>74361012
Kek retarded sister trying to argue law with a lawyer.

>>74361125
He said it's a criminal allegation you retarded fuck. Learn English before posting here.

You want to know what really puts the nail in the coffin for me? There hasn't been a single apology. She and everyone else really want you to believe nothing happened and that's what I find the most disgusting about Nijisanji right now. But hey, it's whatever. I've given other chuubas and agencies my attention instead now, anyway.

>>74366406
The fake-crying act in the black video proved it to me, she is guilty as hell

>>74351813
>Gura and 'shenanigans'
When are chumbuds going to end this fatwa for Mori's imagined crimes