/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>74289424
selen wasn't willing to bend her knees to the clique leaders so she didn't deserve a spot in any brand collabs, so said Elira and her council

>>74289424
What happened is its popular to support her as she's a fat make-a-wish child with mental problems. Next question?

>>74289424
Oh and on top of that, Selen's fucking Sanrio Oshi, Cinamoroll, was dressed up as fucking Elira.
https://youtu.be/9k38Wn9gPP4?t=5963
Look how fucking happy she is just to see him.

>>74289424
You either suck Elira's dick or you get no collabs, live events, nor merch.

>>74289465
Elirabro btw.
>muh nothing happened

Dispite being ome of the top dogs on the female side of NijiEN, Selen was dicked out of many things she would have happily had because there was pure favoritism going on in the management. Now whether or not you believe the 'Elira is the management' thing is up to you, but if it's the truth, it's doubly fucked.

>>74289424
Clique got jealous they only want selen

Reminder that Pomu had exactly the same problem.

Fuck I can't find the elira pic with nothing happened caption

So funny how Hyte immediately dropped Nijisanji and then in the next few weeks you'd see lots of Hololive sponsorships from them.

>>74289465
/thread

>>74289465
>>74289913
How does this explain Nijisanji's completely ludicrous neglect and treatment of her regarding her sponsorships?

>>74289424
>Can anyone PLEASE give me an explanation that doesn't portray management as a spiteful, prideful bastard trying to stomp her down into the dirt?
..so you want us to lie?

>>74289937
Anon, you're replying to sisters. They will never give you an honest answer. They will only post slander full of malicious lies.

>>74289424
Turns out the west has this thing called standards and morals and they tell the chinese to fuck off

>>74289424
As a vindictive asshole, it genuinely brought me joy to see Elira and Enna lose their PC sponsor with Hyte. However, Rosemi didn't deserve this.

>>74289424
it's just for the same reason Stalin came to power, just be the guy signing the papers and being the bridge between people and you can just redirect the fruits of the corpo to whoever you want, if you're the middle manager that feels like selen went outside the proper procedure and don't want to make a stink you can just take the accomplishement away to try and teach her to shut up by showing her she won't get anything if she acts that way

>>74289465
My next question is how's China this time of year?

>>74289815
this one?

TOTAL CLIQUE DEATH
>Verification not required.

>>74290035
Look out the window to find out

>>74289424
>HYTE
who?

>>74289424
that why when they try to kill selen niji get kick in the ass...

>>74290368
https://hyte.com/?zCountry=SG
this is their site. not sure what is your point, it's easy to google you know

>>74290035
Smoggy as fuck, same as every other time of year, they have the most coal plants of any country on Earth

>>74290035
trying to fk with phillipine's islands

>>74289527
Two instances I can think of when Elira is caught "authorizing" things on stream as a manager.

>https://youtu.be/cjNiFKV81vE?t=6639
Elira authorizes Reimu to make an announcement regarding her birthday

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkIQkMqZHxE&t=2681
Enna is being whipped against her will by Millie. She nervously asks "can I whip you back". Everyone is silent, until Elira says "no", then everyone else agrees "no, no you can't".

I don't watch enough Elira to know more cases, I just know these from collabs

>>74290671
Ewww I'd rather fuck Japanese.

>>74289424
Look at this and tell me what you think happened OP.
BTW, the current rrat is HTYE wanted a PC case for Selen but Elira forced them to do cases for her and some fellow clique members first so they could skim more money off the top. Once Selen got thrown under the bus, it's a no brainer that HTYE would tell NijiEN to fuck off and then go support Doki.

>>74289881
BASED BASED BASED

>>74289881
My schizo theory
The colors don't match up for hololive gamers.
But you know who they DO match up for?

>>74289465
Fag

>>74289424
I genuinely think there’s a management system where talents can earn privileges based on good behaviour etc, vice versa.
We know for a fact that Selen got bonked by management a lot for not following rules, which probably meant she was in the bottom of the list. If anything, I’m impressed she wasn’t openly bitter about all of this, because I sure as hell would have been.
As for Luxiem, that’s just favouritism through and through. They were the golden boys that made it rain money, so privileges just fell into their laps.

>>74290930
hahahahahahahahaha

>>74290038
yep that one thanks

>>74290930
wait holy fuck your on to something

>>74289424
>HYTE wants to specifically collaborate with Selen Tatsuki
>Nijisanji says no and they have to make cases instead for 3 girls who are absolutely NOT known for their PC gaming.

If you want the answer to your retarded question, tell the truth instead of making shit up. The company chooses what member gets to promote their shit, not Nijisanji. The only reason HYTE dumped Nijisanji is the same reason why any other company dumps someone controversial and starts supporting the "victim" instead. Money. You probably think any corporation cares about faggots too

hyte didn't really care about selen that much until she was at the center of a giga drama they earned tons of good PR points for jumping into

you are easily swayed by opportunism

>>74291742
Shit on nijisanji
Get money
It's that simple

The disproportionate number of sponsorships Elira is/was involved in COULD be due to her fluency in Japanese, but I doubt that’s the whole equation. Consistency is rather jarring if you’re talking about prominence in almost all fields: Merch, voice packs, promotional material, collabs...

>>74291742
yeeeah about that.

>>74291857
That literally changes nothing

>>74292006
big 'i've already won the argument in my head' energy
ur gonna go places kid

>>74292045
Explain how this disproves that they're just the average American company deciding to do a PR stunt?

>>74292307
the fact that the PR stunt makes nijiniggers seethe of course

>>74289465
kys enna

>>74291715
Wrong, Hyte wanted do collab with Selen multiple times, they said it so, but she never heard anything about it, because nijisanji chooses.

>>74291795
I mean it's purely a fact that as a liver if you can get more sponsorships you'll just go ahead and grab them if you have the opportunity to, especially if you're the only one acting as go between, it's greedy but you don't anybody giving you oversight and it's free money

>>74292972
They literally never said that

>>74289490
Elira had My Melo, tho
Ike had Cinnamoroll
And Vox had Hello Kitty like a typical main character syndrome

>>74293040
Doki mentioned it several times when it was announced, both in that tweet in the OP and on the first stream after. She was freaking out because she really did think she was unmarketable thanks to Niji, and Niji just... never fucking told her about anybody reaching out to her.

Cmon OP you already know the answer.

>>74289424
>Can anyone PLEASE give me an explanation that doesn't portray management as a spiteful, prideful bastard trying to stomp her down into the dirt?
I can't. This is obviously exactly what they did and she wasn't the only one.
Let's just be glad that she left that hellhole.

>>74293131
She literally said nothing about getting requested to do a sponsorship while in Nijisanji

>>74290930
OH NO NO NO HOLOBRONIES

>>74290930
The company is so lazy, they just didn't make a new design for Holo

>>74289424
Lazulight and Luxiem, the first girl and boy waves got the first Sanrio merch. If she would have waited her turn, Obysdia and Noctyx would have come around for their turn. Are you going to deny that Lazulight makes more business sense for sanrio than Obysdia, especially back then?

>>74293756
Yeah because Elira and Finana merch does not sell, especially not in 2023.

>>74290930
I still don't understand VTubers obsession with the pink-magenta-purple color spectrum. Pretty much 90% of the western VTubing has this theme and it's so freaking overused, from Ironmouse to Enna, from Henya to Biboo, from IRyS to FuwaMoco.

>>74293756
>first girl and boy waves
why the fuck would that matter? what's the point of going in "Debut order" when you're going to apply such a bullshit arbitrary exception to get in Luxiem? They aren't even corresponding to the correct character sex so THAT's not a thing, either. It's complete fucking favoritism considering how Selen of all people clearly wanted it from debut, and how a company's job should be to grow the fucking talents and help them achieve their dreams. Not to fucking appeal to some stupid "order."
Did Enna and Rosemi randomly debut several waves before Selen too? Did Maria and Fulgur debut before Selen, so they got the Razer collab?

>>74293886
Reclaiming the color scheme from the troons. A truly selfless endeavor.

>>74293364
Except she did. Hyte told her that they've been wanting to work with her for a long time, but Niji never let it happen.

>>74289424
The actual reason is that Niji considered her a brand risk (as said by her on stream), to the point where back around early 2023, she more or less had to beg for sponsorships.
This was once again showcased in her final membership post, where she was told that she wasn't selected for any merch collabs in 2024 and that she would work hard this year so that Niji would pick her

>>74294454
What the flying fuck. Did anyone save any of the membership posts? I remember some really rough ones from early on, but I dropped membership as soon as I got tired of watching her hurt herself for that company.

>>74290930
>Hololive merch is the bully clique's sloppy seconds
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>74292006
>>74292307
I’m sorry you never got a gift as a kid, because that’s the energy I’m getting from your seethe. Begone back to your shithole.

>>74293756
That’s bot how it works, especially because they got the sexes wrong.
Once again the hoops some Nijisis would go when the HYTE collab literally goes with Rosemi instead of Selen and thet cleary wanted to collab with her instead.
Niji was as usual beith the “we don’t care about livers” company trying to sell those who bend over and accept Riku’s cock. The rosebuds are just too stupid to understand she is literally destroying herself over the idea that she’s only worth as Rosemi while not wanting to be the bitch, and she will choose that be ause she’s a spineless coward.

>>74293886
Trans propaganda.

>>74289424
The only possible explanation is that someone at the very top of the chain is a petty narcissitic bitch that played dolls with the talent. Which is why their incompetent ass would think so many stupid decisions were actually good.

>>74294629
Other way around
Hololive merch came first

>>74289424
Just because someone barks a lot and says things publicly, that doesn't mean they have control over it. For example, Selendoki is not the only fan of Sanrio out there, even though they're such an obscure brand, right?
The gaming thing is whatever too. She's not known for gaming outside of her fans, and Razer is just going to be fine with any of them since they all play games.
The only example that works out is like you mention a small company where the boss is clearly biased. For most people, they have never ever heard of HYTE before any of this drama, but they everyone around the world knew Sanrio and Razer.
Management doesn't exist there to server just one person, and not just the person that shouts first or shouts the most. It's very unlikely that they had any intentions towards Selen, because most of these deals were probably settled a year or more in advance. It probably also includes the specific wishes of their collab partners and the wishes of their other talents. Pride would be thinking a specific person deserves it more and blowing up deals just to get what they want.

>>74289424
I didn't realize how bad it was... no wonder she made an attempt

>>74291857
>"You're doing amazing, Dookie!"
Wait, what?

>>74300782
lmao, I just noticed that

>>74300400
Holy ESL

>>74290035
Increasingly desperate for foreign capital.

>>74300782
is it not pookie?

>>74290930
I imagine they had manufactured a lot before cancelling the deal with nijisanji and had to do something with these.

>>74300400
"It probably also includes the specific wishes of their collab partners and the wishes of their other talents."

>Selen: "I'd love to get a HYTE sponsorship."
>HYTE: "We'd love to have Selen be one of the talents in our sponsorship."
>Niji: "You get Elira."

Explain that then.

>>74291715
HYTE is ran by a dragoon. That's the reason they were the only sponsor/collab to drop Niji.

>>74301221
>Selen: I consent
>HYTE: I consent
>Nijisanji: I don't
Is there someone you forgot to fucking ask?

>Sanrio focusing on the waves that actually appeal to women
>HYTE, a small time PC case manufacturerer with nothing to lose shortsightedly decides to get a brief signal boost by riding the drama train

Anyone actually deciding to side with Doki during this clusterfuck has ended up gaining nothing out of it after a mere two months. Dramafags as a fanbase are more fickle than women. HYTE made an incredibly stupid and childish decision.

>>74289424
Power of drama

>>74301221
Yeah, not denying that, but nobody cares about HYTE or thinks they're a mega corporation that requires endless negotiations.

>>74301361
Why do sisters love to falseflag with Mint so much? Or is that just you?

>>74289424
Rosemi at least has some vidya background/appeal out of the females, but Elira and Enna? Lol no that was blatant favoritism.

>>74291320
>>74294454
All this yapping in the thread when these two posts perfectly state the reasons Selen didn’t get merch opportunities. She broke the rules a lot (as stated by Niji themselves in the termination notice) and was considered a “brand risk” due to that. God I’m so fucking glad she left and wish she did it sooner.

>>74301780
>She broke the rules a lot
Have you heard about Luca Kaneshiro?

>>74301927
Am I denying there isn’t favouritism? Look at the first post I quoted.

>>74301780
wtf the termination notice just flew over my house and said that selen is gay

>>74301685
they've latched onto her after trying to use henya for some reason

>>74301780
how was she more of a brand risk than the blowjob asmr guy?

>>74290544
>?zCountry=SG

>>74301685
They are using Pomu as a way of "owning" "the haters" because she allegedly still hangs out with the clique via Matara
They did it so much that when you search her name Pomus image shows up instead on google

>>74301173
Yeah, it's Pookie

>>74302871
You cannot make this shit up

>>74301361
Are they even developing custom cases for her to sell or is it just a case for herself? In that case we all collab with companies whenever we order stuff. I'm just asking, did they even go into business with her or did they just get business from her?

>>74302871
kinda poetic innit

>>74302871
>its real

>>74302677
Why don’t you ask Niji that? They’re the ones who told her she was considered a “brand-risk”, they’re not my words.

>>74289465
Spbp. Only person here that really gets it.

>>74289465
I love how this seething sister insult still doesn't answer the question of NijiEN incredible incompetence. Even if what you said was the absolute truth (which it ofc isn't) NijiEN would still be incompetent retards not capitalizing on this opportunity. Next question?

>>74290035
Secretely but noticeably very mad that the US and allies are trying to make most of Latam their new China slowly but surely starting with Mexico, meanwhile their efforts at trying to make Africa their China is having mild results, and not fast enough for a legit rainbow worth of reasons. Also, what does this have to do with Nijisanji?, besides BiliBili and of course, apart from merch production.

>>74302677
>how was she more of a brand risk than the blowjob asmr guy?
As their director said, Luxiem’s success (with Chinks and SEA) saved his career and NijiEN (said he could have gotten fired otherwise). The guy (if not NijiEN management as a whole) felt indebted to them and treated them better, no matter what they said about no favoritism.
Heck, according to Luca, Riku went to a private dinner in a fancy restaurant with Luxiem. Does anyone actually think he did that with every NijiEN members?
Both of them were brand risk, but one was liked and the other wasn’t

>>74289424
Imagine literally branding yourself as "Dramabird" and wondering why none of the kawaii brands will ever collab with you?

>>74304990
Well, Enna is quite a nuisance, I agree.

>>74302766
I mean, he had to risk it.

>>74290930
That would be hilarious but isn't this the second keyboard they've done for a Holo event or did someone else do the Connect the World Keyboard?

>>74304906
>Both of them were brand risk, but one was liked and the other wasn’t
I think it is clear as day the funny bird was, in fact, liked just as much if not more. Denying it at this point makes you look like a menhera.

>>74301685
There must always be a falseflag king.

>>74307739
Liked by the management and higher ups you goddamn retard not by real fans
the guy literally sent luca and probably all of luxiem a message sucking their dick for saving EN

>>74303084
Both. She just gets the first one herself. They're going to sell dokibird PC builds/cases soon

>>74289424
>Sanrio
Sanrio ONLY wanted fucking Luxiem, management got them to bend backwards to include Lazulight especially after Mysta sent his resignation in. You can't use the "FPS fanbase" excuse while ignoring 95% of the people who buy Sanrio merch are women, and most of the, are only going to care about Luxiem not the girls

>>74289424
maria and fulgur got the razer sponsor because they streamed on bilibili
selen should've done it earlier instead of ignoring potential audiences that she could attract

>>74315081
>Sanrio ONLY wanted fucking Luxiem
Proof?
Girls who like Sanrio are COMPLETELY different from fujos who were obsessed with Luxiem.

>>74315081
That's not how it works, but even if it were, it only makes the HYTE and Razer choices more questionable, don't you think?

>>74294454
>BPD menhera is considered a brand risk
Smart decision 2bh. But the smarter one would've been to never hire her in the first place.

>>74302677
>>74304906
Actually it's because Vox doesn't have BPD. His mental illnesses are easier to deal with than that one and his coomshit is easily ignored.

>>74315081
>Sanrio ONLY wanted fucking Luxiem, management got them to bend backwards to include Lazulight especially after Mysta sent his resignation in.

...So you're telling me they fucking went by debut order when the only reason Selen wasn't in lazulight was because of a fucking whim? They tore away her dream collab that she mentioned being a reason for joining the company because... ???

Why the fuck even join a corporation if they're NOT going to help you achieve your goals?

>>74322267
>brand risk
>literally the only other popular female in the company, outselling and outperforming many members of the "superior" luxnoc waves.

What the fuck, man. God, I hate that place. Seriously, a corporation is supposed to nurture and ELEVATE the talent, not the other fucking way around, and she did that in spades and got her ego destroyed in return.

>>74322613
Because Selen is a BPD menhera and constantly caused trouble for the staff. If she knew how to behave she would've gotten those collabs.

>>74322736
a bpd menhera who had absolutely no signs of problems both before and since, who companies literally dropped support with Nijisanji to support?

All fucking signs point to Nijisanji being worthless as a company and not Selen being a menhera.

>>74322839
Westurds are more accepting of mentally ill people. That's why they have sky-high rates of trannyism.

>>74322922
Clearly not, considering Nijisanji got dumped by the entire western market once their own mental illnesses were exposed.

Seriously, the best explanation the sisters have is "she yelled at a manager for incompetence" once? They claim she's hard to work with, when literally every single other person who's ever met her has said the opposite?

I'm glad Nijisisters have stuck with "Selen was a troublemaker" as their foundational talking point. Makes it really easy to just discard their opinions outright without having to address a firehose of bad faith arguments.

>>74323056
According to the leaks, the management is so fucking unused to talking back, that Luca asking simple questions caused them to break down in tears. I can only imagine what Selen, who actually fucking takes her job seriously, must have said and done when they refused to do their goddamn jobs.

>>74323056
Either that or the BPD stuff despite vox literally having a fundraiser for mental health

>>74323120
>the management is so fucking unused to talking back, that Luca asking simple questions caused them to break down in tears
Jesus, dude. No wonder Nijisanji is in the shitter if this is the sort of people running it.

selene being a fucking menhera
and niji being the worst place to vtubing
arent mutual exclusive.

She was stupid and niji was stupid. there is a reason her mom is handling some of her stuff right now she cant have a real manager.

>>74322267
>>74322496
>>74322736
>>74323126

>>74323259
Lol really? She already lost that "xQc manager" she hired before?

>>74323428
You know, I used to display some of these behaviors. A single wallop from dad kinda changed that.

>>74323428
>tries to sudoku over a cover
Totally normal and not deranged menhera behavior

>>74323592
No, IIRC he's just doing other stuff. Managing Doki is side work for him so she hired other people to help handle the rest.

>74323826
Oh are we back to the Cover being the only reason claim? Wonderful display at this rate we'll go through all the usual excuses that come up.

>>74323827
So she's paying multiple people's salaries too? I could buy some might do volunteer work like clippers or artists, but people doing merch stuff or handling sponsorships, or general maintenance aren't just going to work for free. Hope she manages to be smarter with her money this time.

>>74324867
I don't think you need to worry about her, sister.

>>74322727
Yeah, she didn't do anything wrong. She didn't break any rules. She was a saint! She wasn't a nightmare to work with! She wasn't a nightmare to manage, the managers were EVILLLLL!!!

>>74323056
And you stick with "Selen was a saint" and all the other livers and the whole company was evil, and the former livers except Yugo have not reached out to her because................because.........?

>>74325002
>>74325366
The only ones claiming anyone is a saint seems to be you.

>>74324919
Just because the corporation doesn't take a cut anymore doesn't mean you don't have expenses anymore. Either you pay someone to do those little things behind the scenes you didn't have to worry about, or you do them yourself and spend your time and stress on them.

>>74325555
Oh yeah, right. The whole twitter mob hasn't been hailing her as the second coming of christ? Seeing her as a blameless victim and to hell with everyone else in the company, harass them all?

>>74289465
Based

>>74325713
I don't think you need to worry about her, sister.

>>74323008
>the best explanation the sisters have is "she yelled at a manager for incompetence" once?
the same sisters praise Shu for doing the same btw

>>74325948
Also, any "yabs" she does she can't blame on the company anymore (assuming people won't just ignore them).

>>74326103
oh no
thanks for the concern
anyway

>>74323008
I highly doubt anyone is going to be criticizing her in the current climate, they'd be an instant target. Also, note, being hard to work with wasn't what she was fired for. Neither did they fire her for one offense only.

>>74326209
Another thing. This one's more subjective though. She's well known for organizing big events with multiple people, I'll even admit she was amazing with wrestlesanji, prism cup etc.
But if she's organizing big events now, are people going to care much about the indies she invites? Sure their fanbases will, but will average Hololive fans care about the smattering of indies, with likely males among them?

>>74325002
She might not be a saint, but I haven't seen anyone - AnyColor included - mentioned anything she did while she was there that could've seriously damaged NijiEN. Some other "livers" did worse and are still around.

>>74322267
Oh how the turntables

>>74325879
>b-b-but muh twitter mobs
yea, if the internet hates your employer, you're gonna catch some of that flak, regardless of your involvement with whatever flavor of the month faggotry the twitter troons are mad about.

Rosemi got the right idea with turning off her PC to not deal with those faggots. Maybe you should too

>>74327629
>need someone to clip this and show the holofags
Kekarooooo!

>>74289424
gura deflection thread

>>74325879
More like the entire world, lol
Nijiseethe about it

>>74324867
Yeah, she's doing fine. She's CEO doki now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwSKCIY7dm8
>>74326438
realistically she's gonna end up inviting holos too eventually. It'll start small, but there IS a world outside of hololive and nijisanji to grow in and rebuild until the dust settles.
>>74325879
Compared to Nijisanji? She might as well have been. Everybody who's ever worked with her, before, during, or since Nijisanji has called her an absolute joy and was always hoping to collab again soon, and in many cases they did.
Nobody outside of Nijisanji has ever had a bad word to say about her, and nobody INSIDE has before Feb 5 either, and that's kind of insane.

>>74328441
Nijiseething post

>>74289424
Jap brains are hard-coded to double down because they're incapable of registering that they can make bad decisions, especially when dealing with non-Japs. See also: Sega

>>74300782
>>74300862
>>74301173
Fucking ESLs it says rookie

>>74289465
>Can anyone PLEASE give me an explanation that doesn't portray management as a spiteful, prideful bastard trying to stomp her down into the dirt? Especially the hyte collab, what the fuck.

SISTER'S SEETHING SO BAD THEY DON'T EVEN READ BEFORE RUSHING TO RAGEPOST

>>74331838
to be fair the handwriting is atrocious. The sentiment is still there though.

>>74289424
In retrospect, Elira having My Melody should've been the first red flag to what kind of person she is.

>>74293886
They're girls and girls like those kinds of colors, which is why it's all the more annoying that it got co-opted by the trans community since it led to that community retroactively applying their views onto those things when it wasn't for them.

>>74289424
>Can anyone PLEASE give me an explanation that doesn't portray management as a spiteful, prideful bastard trying to stomp her down into the dirt?
No, because that's exactly what they are.

>>74289465
kys

>>74290680
Problem is, this only works as evidence if you already believe the rrat.

>>74301780
>>74322267
>>74325002
>>74325879
kys

>>74340023
Which everyone other than nijisisters already does, keep up with the program will ya?

>>74289424
1. Nijisanji and its management are CWC-level retarded
2. Supporting the shitbird makes them "good guys" and will rake in a metric fuckton from saviorfags.

Kurosanji and Riku's harem of second-rate Hololive rejects can rope, but the bird woman can also rope. Without the sob story she's most a mid-tier e-girl and the current lolcow FOTM. If she keeps her nose clean she can have a modestly successful FPS channel based on her Cinderella story until she slowly fades into obscurity; if she keeps finding new ways to make herself a victim, she can have a shorter but more profitable career milking the wallets of her community until the compassion fatigue bleeds them all dry and then settle down to get a real job or pop out some kids or whatever people like this do when get bored of parting a fool from his money, which is more than what most of the Niji women (or really most women in general) could hope to achieve.

>>74341151
6/10 bait. nearly managed to piss off all sides at once but I think you could've hit harder on holo to make it believable.

>>74290930
it fits the capture the moment color scheme, but it's missing some yellow i think, so it's not that far off from the truth i guess

>>74290035
their buildings are collapsing because of the tofu dreg constructions

>>74294293
Prove she said they came to her specifically while she was in Nijisanji

>>74343614
Anon, they've wanted to work with her for a long time.
Dokibird has not been an active independent streamer for a long time, and they're a pc company specifically geared towards gamers of which none of the niji collab girls were.
You can do the math. I know you can do it.

>>74329262
The Vtuber community isn't remotely close to "the whole world". The average person still doesn't know what this hobby is. The more mainstream internet may have caught wind with charlie and asmongolds videos, but otherwise moved on with a couple days.

>>74343876
Oh, so you lied and are just spreading a rrat. Got it

>>74344729
No, you're just retarded, ESL, and don't watch streams.

>>74289424
What does Doki have to do with Nijisanji or Selen? She's an indietuber with no affiliation to either.

>>74289424
>Can anyone PLEASE give me an explanation that doesn't portray management as a spiteful, prideful bastard trying to stomp her down into the dirt?
Management is a spiteful, prideful bastard trying to stomp her down into the dirt.

>>74344910
>Did Doki ever say this?
>No, but it's OBVIOUS

So you lied.

>>74345591
Hey, quick question. How would you have felt if you hadn't had breakfast this morning?

>>74290680
>Enna is being whipped against her will by Millie. She nervously asks "can I whip you back". Everyone is silent, until Elira says "no", then everyone else agrees "no, no you can't".
>they're beating the fuck out of enna for her bullshit and blame her for their problems with selen
Bullysanji is harsh.

>>74293844
Where do you have any information on who's merch sells or not? I could argue Pomu alone would sell more sanrio than obsydia, and if you're doing Pomu, you have to bring Lazulight.

>>74340685
You mad

>>74346450
You could check on the website at any point during Nijisanji's history. Pomu's merch would sell out almost instantly, and OCCASIONALLY, Elira's would sell out as well. Finana's never sold out.

I'm still salty that fag Ike got pompom purin knowing it was Pomu's favorite, that plus luxiem getting nendos while none of the girls did is just another show of male favoritism

>>74290680
This isn't definitive proof of anything

>>74347000
I can't believe Mickey Mouse gets all the merchandise while Pete barely gets any. What's with this Disney favoritism?

>>74289465
You NijiN'wah

>>74340868
>Everyone that doesn't believe in my conspiracy theory is a sister

>>74346831
I'm pretty sure you're not wrong on that, I've seen that pattern too. But how does that make doing Obysdia first any smarter of a decision? Did Selen sell out merch instantly? Were RosePeto big sellers? Does Selen wanting the Sanrio more mean she deserves it more, if Lazulight with seniority also wants it?

Wanting a sanrio collab shouldn't be this big unique character trait that defined her. I'm pretty sure they were all stoked for it and would jump at the chance for it. And I don't believe she was owed it or deserved it necessarily. Is there proof that getting sanrio was a precondition for her joining the company?

>>74347812
The point here is that Selen wanted it and was vocal about it yet she never got it. It would have been easier for positive PR to give it because Selen would have thanked Niji for it like she always had in the past. But they chose to deny even that benefit to spite her.

>>74347812
>Did Selen sell out merch instantly?
Unironically yes.
The little sales info we DO have is that Selen and Pomu were by far the best selling of the girls for merch by an absurd margin. Selen barely got any merch or sponsorships, and they always sold out within minutes. I should know since I tried very hard to buy a lot of them, and I was almost never able to get anything due to shitty american internet...

>>74347812
They didn't have to go by waves to begin with. Last I checked, Maria and Fulgur aren't a wave.

>>74347812
Selen and Pomu's merch constantly sold out.
They are also the top 2 most superchatted female in the EN branch

>>74347288
The sister shrieks in horror upon being found out

>>74289424
>Rosemi lost her PC case and 500k milestone thanks to the evils of the clique
>barely shows up at the AR live due to cut songs from graduations and firings
>stops streaming for 2 weeks
MOM SAVE WOSEMI

>>74289424
Elira admitting to fucking management.

>>74349584
Rewarded as a traitor deserves

>>74289424
>Elira: nothing happened
>vox: horrible things
What did they mean by this?

>>74355148
Le retard Vox akuma shoots himself in the foot again

>>74290051
which of them?

>>74349584
They went on a trip recently and already planned the next one.

>>74349584
Don't worry
05/01 and by the end of the year, she might be in vshojo if everything goes well

>>74289465
As expected of nijidrones brain dead as always

Any chance Doki could get a Sanrio collab?

>>74361886
It's possible but I don't think it'll happen any time soon. She needs some time to get some more footing in japan before anything like that happens. Maybe make some new friends over there who could pull strings.
If it was anyone else, I'd say not a chance, but she tends to meet the most random people.

>>74294180
>>74296803
Those aren't the trans colors. We've been over this already, if you think those are the trans colors you have colorblindness. As in there is a type of colorblindness that fucks with your vision so those colors are turned into the trans colors.

>>74289424
Nijien management are disinterested, lazy and can barely speak english.
Their reward structure is based around not what is best for the company and its bottom line but what makes their own lives easiest.

Pomu and selen have a bunch of irritating things called ideas and projects to try and 'grow' the mindchair and maintain excitement which is annoying and creates work, they should be more like elira who spends all her time streaming jrpgs, can speak in japanese and wrangles the branches internal hr so I dont have to think too hard.

Numbers? Profit? im not getting paid based on performance why the fuck should I care.
Be more like aster or finana who stream the exact same slop to 300 people earning barely anything rather than making problems for me.

>>74289424
The fact that this thread is still not archived shows how much seethe nijikeks have for dokibird by constantly bumping this thread

>>74289424
The major fuckups, cause an incredible reputation damage to the company, this inherently changes Rosemi's health and mentality. Shes isnt she used to be.

So Rosemi plans to show her home 3d that date

>>74364496
Yup.

>>74347812
Merch was Pomu > Selen >>> others

>>74289424
magic

>>74289465
Lmao

>>74293886
Japan have always had a Red and Blue thing. Shift red to Pink and add red to blue and you get Purple.

>>74364496
How dare they have ideas and be popular with people.

>>74364496
this for sure. niji en just plays safe all the time and never tries to innovate, thats one reason why people hardly watch them compared to before, even before this drama they were trending down faster than even Holo myth. fact is that many earlier en vtubers were popular due to sunk cost, when people have an excuse to stop watching it overrides the sunk cost, thats why so many people stopped watching niji en. even one of their most promising singers, enna, stagnated so hard and she never improved her singing, though many vtubers suffer from this because their lazy asses cant be bothered to take their development seriously.

>>74289424

>>74369861
>though many vtubers suffer from this because their lazy asses cant be bothered to take their development seriously.
*gestures wildly at HoloEN*
It is so fucking weird that small corpos pump out more orisongs (on average, Mori of course is the queen) and more varied content than the top dog
Like we are 8 months in and the singer of advent STILL HASNT RELEASED A SINGLE ORISONG HER WHOLE THEME IS SINGING YET SHE DOESNT DO KARAOKES OR ORISONGS AND HER COVER PRODUCTION HAS STALLED

>>74304546
I see someone else has been hearing more often about nearshoring. I'll be looking forward for more Freedom for the confinent
>t. spicbro

>>74289424

>>74364811
You're onto something here.

>>74364811
lmao saved

>>74289424
Management are a bunch of lazy, incompetent pricks who actively collude with a group of spiteful, prideful bastards among the talents who want to stomp her into the dirt.