/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ENTER FUWA, his first one was extremely successful so now he continues.

16k and growing strong

https://youtu.be/Ek4BP4n3gcg

>>7428269
Wait what is he doing?

>>7428294
Inviting guests to wake up early to do a morning stretch

>>7428294
daily morning mogging

>>7428334
Ah, well, great for him

here's some interesting useless fact:
Shion's return stream has managed to gain more views than her banger cover, from the same day.

Last week's superchats

>>7428346
Reid getting more than Kiara kind makes me hard. Is that weird?

>>7428529
she had 8k for most of it, but >>7428346 finds it best for his bait to take the picture of when she's reading superchats

>>7428605
only 8k? why does ina gets twice as much for minecraft at even weaker timeslot? they have equal subs

>>7428605
It became a running joke the more I camped here.

>>7428529
Reid makes me hard too

>>7428745
There is a reason we never used live viewer counts before vnuma went down and that's because of numberniggers who cherry pick when to take the screenshot for maximum baitery

>>7428999

>>7429015
>>7429000

copypasting numberfag tools

ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly/2021-07-24
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

>>7428334
Wow he got 25k today and 23k last time. These are some of his best numbers in general, like 2-3x his game stream numbers. His latest ep had 3D guests too, eventho it was pretty scuffed lol. I still think his hands look super gross lol, but these are impressive numbers regardless.

https://playboard.co/en/video/l4MJRqVup34
https://playboard.co/en/video/Ek4BP4n3gcg

>>7429671
of all the things to get him kuzuha apex numbers, it's this... sasuga most retarded host in japan
this should have happened while anons were at each other's throats over 3D/AR tech last thread
he plans to do this for the whole month of august, do we think he'll get similar viewership for the whole month?

>>7428395
still a brat

nijibros.. should i make a new thread ? kek

>>7429877
Probably not, with all monthly things usually viewership declines in the middle, I'll be (pleasantly) surprised if he manages to keep around 20k+ for all days of August. Maybe if he invites more people in 3D.
And yeah would have been hilarious seeing people go So this is the legendary pinnacle of Niji3D... with that stream

>>7430144
900k sub chuuba's video is outviewed by 1,6m sub chuuba's video
definitely in the top 3 craziest things i've seen on /vt/ so far

Why have Pekoras views gotten so bad? She currently is only at 4th place.

>>7430144
How do we save Kuzuha Channel?

>>7430360
Cause she's a whore that's why. What else is there really.

>>7430144
Pretty sure Kuzuha's King has passed RIP before, it's been narrowing the lead down for months now. RIP gets like 350-400k views a week, whereas King gets like 350-450k views a week. Reflect will probably pass both in a few more months since its reaching milestones a month faster than both of these songs.

Not really a good idea to compare a cover to an original anyways. Kuzuha's King benefits greatly from King being a megameme of a cover song, like Ayame's Goodbye Sengen.

>>7430300
>>7430144
200k likes difference. Just how much Nijifags boosted that?

Have you kneeled yet?

>>7430768
Couldn’t it also be because some of Mori’s views are from spotify or something

>>7430935
Literally who?

>>7431156
Mori's boost
>artist label on her channel
Kuzuha's boost
>cover of a popular song
I don't see how Spotify listens correlate to views in a large amount, because if you have Spotify you'd rather listen to it in HQ on that app right?

>>7431182
The indie queen

>>7430360
Even Aqua is ahead of her now. Its gotten quite bad for the rabbit.

>>7431248
Yeah, it's over for Pekora, it's quite sad to see.

>>7430360
yeah she is doing really bad

>>7430360
She is actually much farther down than that.

1. Gura - 795,028
2. Marine - 576,323
3. Ayame - 561,919
4. Aqua - 499,861
5. Suisei - 409,201
6. Rushia - 363,756
7. Shion - 358,738
8. Pekora - 329,932

Looks like this thread already started out shitty and retarded huh

>>7431852
what else can you expect from cumshits?

>lets pretend that it wasn't you who posted that

>>7429671
Mio did the same thing during Golden Week and got like 30k every time she did it. Now she is back to her normal viewership of like 6-8k. Don't expect his buff to last Nijinigger.

Again, where are the numberchads?
This shithole reeks of stinking filthy numberfaggots.

New subs gained/views gained during the month of July. DISCUSS
https://youtu.be/n_W5tctOZhE

>>7432196
I expect these kinds of videos to have a catchy song...

>>7432196
i don't read moon can someone tell me what the categories are

>>7432196
>moonrunes
>discuss
fuck off

>>7428395
the cover is good, but the picture is fucking nasty.

>>7432230
>>7432371
>>7432407
Number of new subs gained in the month of July
Number of new VOD views gained in the month of July
Number of new subs gained in the month of July for those who started below 100k subs
Number of new VOD views gained in the month of July for those who started below 100k subs
As for who is who the icons are there but I don't recognize some. Reposting anon's post from a few threads ago.
Kanon's growth is funny.

>>7432619
pegora i kneel

>>7430360
monthly views

>>7428226
nice edit OP, while shark was at 8k viewers Peko had over 30k. :)

>triples ina in subs
>somehow more people prefers to watch ina's pov
What a failure of a streamer.

>>7432619
>Ollie got more subs than Peko! She must be more succesful!
the logic of these threads.

>>7432692
Had to see what that orange Sutopuri guy is doing and his entire channel is just spamming 5 minute skits, and it's hard to find any that are below 500k views, an entire month of his channel has skits with over 1m views. I kneel pseudovtuber...
>>7432784
Nowhere in my post did I say that anyone is more successful than the other, you just choose to extrapolate that. Success can be found in different non number metrics. But this conversation is a timeloop.

HEY GURA FIFTY FOUR

>>7432030
Mind you a male is doing it in the home phone app niji3D.

So yes it’s impressive given the retarded stigma of males in these number thread, holobronie.

>>7432939
>it’s impressive given the retarded stigma of males in these number thread
The ramblings of this thread and board have nothing to do with his numbers, it's only impressive given his average live view count barring one time special events.
>>7432030
And no one is saying he's going to retain 20k after August ends either.

>>7432030
>>7432939
the post didn't even mention hololive or anyone other than fuwa minato why are you faggots like this

>>7432939
he doesn't get special credit for being gay; and neither do you

>>7430360
Just so you know, Pekora is a retard that is spamming streams to win in the worthless category known as "Most Viewed Female Streamers", so she gains more overall VODs but lowers her average due to constant streaming.

>>7433329
holy copium, bunny really is living free in ur head

A bot that tracks Nijisanji videos that are close to/hit a million views. Not sure if any of it is super useful but it is numbers.
https://twitter.com/2434million
It also comes with rankings compared to all the other videos, for instance this Levergacha episode from 2020 reached 1 mil ten hours ago, and is ranked 345th in the list of videos with highest views in Nijisanji.
https://twitter.com/2434million/status/1422196482011279363
Tweets at 500k, 1 mil, and every next million reached. It includes graduated channels, main channels, sub channels, and unit/group channels.

>>7433329
>worthless category

>>7433329
>livestreamer
>why is she streaming constantly waaah shes retarded

>>7433489
>spoonfeeding fucking old useless info
I don't think you belong here, just go back already

why do pekora and miko hate each other now

>>7433628
I will continue to post whatever numbers I want.

>>7433651
Don't listen to the voices

>>7433489
are you getting paid to post this shit?

>>7433408
>>7433585
I don't care that she streams often, but her reason is absolutely retarded.

>>7433527
Prove that Stream Hatchett's criteria for most watched streamers isn't complete garbage primarily biased towards people that stream long hours.

>>7433628
is this not a thread for numbers?

>>7433930
>b-but it has random numbers
for how much longer will you keep using that shit excuse?

>>7433628
I don't know about you, but I find that info somewhat useful. We often talk comparatively about who has how many 1M viewed videos on their channel. Would be interesting to know how many there are at the agency level.

>>7433715
Every thread someone asks numbers doko and I'm posting them, you sure as fuck aren't.

>>7434007
it wasn't my post, i'm just legitimately wondering why he can't post about vtuber related numbers in a /vt/ numbers thread.

>>7433930
Let me rephrase it for that other anon: quit it with the shameless shilling

>>7432724
op didnt make that, i did
its just a silly meme i dont even care about numbers

>>7434213
>every post about a thing i dislike is shilling

>>7434282
as I said, shameless

>>7434326
yeah dude, almost as bad as that time niji anons posted bofa

>>7433806
>this metric is garbage because my oshi is not there, and is biased towards streamers that care and put their work. anybody who tries to achieve it is a retard

>>7434105
Because it's le scary Nijisanji numbers and he doesn't want to discuss numbers anyway, just start fights.
Here's a video that's easy to understand, has Holos in it, AND music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHfXe1mReic
Top 7 live viewers for every day in July with the top stream of the day displayed on the right.
Marine had 4 top ranking streams of the day, Subaru 3, Kuzuha 3, and Pekora 2.

so currently nijien is having a 4 collab and just realized how stagnant everyone is except the selen.

>>7434437
NTA but that first post of their entire chain did mention exclusively nijisanji. To give the dummies a practical example:
>>7433489 this looks suspicious af since it only covers one side
>>7429094 this does not

>>7434591
Almost 8000 people watching NijiEN at once is pretty good.

>>7434684
NTA, but come the fuck on. We talk about Holostats here all the time, heck I link it almost every time I post in these threads, but it also only covers one side. Stop assuming bad intentions from people providing numberfagging tools.

>>7434437
so the 3 most watched streams for july are coco's grad (obviously), marine's 3d live, nijikoshien draft

>>7432030
I'm a holofag you fucking retard. No one even mentioned Mio or Hololive. Stop being so insecure every time a Niji does well. You make us all look pathetic.

>>7434695
Is probably less since people would be trying to watch multiple view points

>>7434741
you mean you post the graph of one stream you're trying to discuss? Because nobody keeps spoonfeeding what holostats is "almost every thread". That's a big difference to whatever the fuck this >>7433489 is trying to do

>>7434591
Makes sense Selen is getting more than them since she's better at FPS than them all.
Last 7 solo streams average:
Elira: 2.2k
Finana: 1.9k
Rosemi: 1.6k
Can't get numbers for Selen.
>>7434684
Title the thread Holonumbers and I'll never post a Nijisanji number post in it again. Did you actually think I own that bot and am shilling it? Hololive doesn't have a bot that tracks videos hitting 1 mil, I would have posted it if it existed. It may be hard for you to believe but I'm not a tribalfaggot. And that's the first time that bot's ever been posted on this board.

>>7434937
did that anon post about that same account multiple times before? maybe i'm being too nice and assuming the best but i thought he was just giving us another tool we can use for numberfagging purposes.

>>7435017
>>/vt/?task=search&ghost=&search_text=2434million
I made sure to check no one posted it before making that post. And translated the notes

>>7434591
I wonder whats the median views for NijiEN last month

>>7435017
I look at these threads daily and I've never seen that tool before. Anon even added that they don't even know if it's useful.

This anon >>7434937 is full of shit and probably a tribalfag.

>>7434991
>Did you actually think I own that bot
you have the evasion tactics of a 10 years old lol. You claim you're no tribalfaggot but you've been exclusively posting about one thing. Bet you're the same anon that keeps posting the niji-mado without trying to gather the rest of vtubers of the day.

>>7435071
i would say 2k. might be a little less since petra, rosemi and fiana bring it down a lot.

>>7435146
for individual streamers I mean. The niji jops don't track their foreign branch for some reason. Heres niji jp for July.

>>7435123
how is posting the nijimado bad if he's compiles the peak viewers it displays...? it's actually useful and makes it easier to read. some people only post hololive numbers and that's also okay, this thread is to look at numbers. please unclench and just ignore numbers you don't want to discuss.

>>7435123
I'm not because that nijimado image is annoying to read, and looking at live views while a stream is still live is cherrypicking because different things could be happening during the stream like when that guy compares the peak of a 10 minute stream to another stream that's reading SC. I also posted these >>7432196
>>7432619
>>7434437
And they include not only Hololive as well but one of them featured indies and other companies. Any more issues you have? Should I just be posting OH NO NO NO or something?

>I'm no tribalfags, you are!
said all the tribalfags fighting each other in this thread
I swear to god, these threads get shittier and shittier by the day. Or maybe I just shouldn't browse these on SEA hours.

>>7435123
>Bet you're the same anon that keeps posting the niji-mado without trying to gather the rest of vtubers of the day.
You're actually a fucking idiot. The reason why that anon posts Niji-mado is because Playboard misses streams all the time and there's no Holostats equivalent for Niji. These threads only give a fuck about Holos and Nijis anyways so Niji-mado gives us a glance at the other side. We don't need to gather stats for "the rest of vtubers" because holostats is usually solid and everyone here knows how to use it.

Fuck off tribalfaggot.

>>7433806
I actually like the way Stream Hatchett measures success. It makes sure that lazy fucks like Ayame and Kenmochi don't get any credit for anything.

>>7435234
previous thread anons started fighting over 3D fucking models and now one guy is very angry over which numbers should and shouldn't be posted in a numbers thread. never change, /vt/.

>>7435234
It's burger hours you dumbfuck.
Also apparently numbersagis are the most fragile fanbase, who knew?

>>7435254
holostats has been missing pretty much the same streams playboard misses, but how could you know that if you never actually used it?

>>7435234
This is nothing, at least they're bitching about numbers. I'll take that over anons arguing over imaginary merch/sponsorship numbers and 3D tech any day.

You know you don't need to bite every bait that comes your way right?

>>7435281
rent free

>>7435254
I think I asked you this before, take the time to glue together data from every kind of vtuber. Otherwise you're just creating the nijinumbers only shit that you keep accusing holobronies of doing. By the way, I never seen a daily holostats numbers post here, only individual stream numbers being discussed.

>>7435324
> holostats is usually solid
>usually
Learn to read you fucking idiot. I only switched from always to usually because Holostats has been shitting the bed recently and missing some Irys + other streams, but it does not shit the bed as hard as Playboard does. At the very least, it didn't miss Noel's karaoke stream and Pekora's 2 most recent streams.

Noel Karaoke:
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/oBEh8MBTHxA
https://playboard.co/en/video/oBEh8MBTHxA

Pekora Minecraft:
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/LO3m_jZAyQ4
https://playboard.co/en/video/LO3m_jZAyQ4

Pekora Payday 2:
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/ShB4Wen_HBg
https://playboard.co/en/video/ShB4Wen_HBg

>but how could you know that if you never actually used it?
Don't talk shit if you're fucking ignorant

Miko and Irys will both play MC at the same time.. Miko will probably get 20k like last time and Irys might get 10k since this is her unofficial timeslot now. I think they will go head to head for the whole week except that one day Irys will stream JP primetime. I fucking can't wait for JP ban to be over. EN gen 1 are leaving Irys to hang dry. No collab for a whole week this week. She is so boxed in even when EN ban has been lifted

>>7435475
Why are you asking other people to do something you could do? Go do it yourself if no one is doing it.

>>7435512
You know you don't need to entertain those guys right?

>>7435443
You talking about yourself?
>>7432774
>>7432866

>>7435537
either do a good post or none at all, and don't expect people not to shit on it if you choose neither

>>7435536
Does she even have a timeslot? Last I checked she was still all over the place.

>>7435512
does holostats only use youtube api? I wonder If it can track views like what ikioi-ranking or 2434analytics does. Playboard is also missing holo/niji streams while 2434analytics is able to capture it perfectly.
https://playboard.co/en/video/h0Gr7iw_x3A
https://twitter.com/2434rankings/status/1416024204097380357

>>7435536
The collab ban makes sense for gens since it allows you to grow as a group before you start collabing with anybody else, but since IRyS debuted solo its kind of dumb to still enforce the collab ban. At the very least she should still be allowed to collab with gen 0, the other solo debutants like her (Sora, Roboco, Miko, Suisei, and AZKi).

>>7428226

>>7435512
Playboard also refuses to capture Mori's streams due to her artist tag.

>anon 1 takes time to post just about one company
>anon 2 asks them not to be a tribalfag and include everybody
>anon 1 spergs out and tells anon 2 to do it themselves
>anon 1 would rather keep tribalfagging

>>7435220
is hard to do meidan since the extreme inbalance and the quantity of vtubers they have.

>>7435722
The idea for the collab ban is to give the Holo enough time to establish themselves as their own identity and build up their own audience. The fact that she debuted alone shouldn't change anything when it comes to that.

>>7435703
She plots 11PM the most since last week. It has been the best timeslot for her except for JP primetime. Ollie will also stream at 11PM. She's going to do another math stream. Her last had a 4.3k peak

>>7435795
>>7435223

>>7435703
IRyS appears to have settled on at least one slot (8pm PST), and one "JP" timeslot that's bouncing around during JP hours.
I say 10-12k for her Minecraft as well, assuming no-one decides to drop in on her.

>>7435828
collab bans also have a second objective of helping building bonds between the members inside the gen, who can collab with each other. Irys didn't have that so they cut it (partially)

>>7435795
i love how you're writing this like a1's sperging wasn't in response to a2 also sperging lol

>>7435852
those are montlhy posts, niji-mado anon keeps posting it daily

I'd be fine making this a Hololive only thread. The less I have to be reminded that Nijisanji exists the better.

Most live viewers
Category V-Tuber

>>7435814
how so? its just the median of their monthly data. like this peak view of a stream of all data to calculate median.

>>7435955
then next time just say this right off the bat, you would have saved us several posts worth of shitflinging

>>7435828
I disagree with this to a certain degree because all gens that had a collab ban collabed with each other within a week. Even a day after debut. It's not just to build your individual fanbase but to build your unit's fanbase. It's a thing for Hololive. A lot of Hololive fans are not only a fan of 1 girl but the the whole gen or subunit. Like Manjigumi, Gamers, Gen3 and so on so forth. They tried to rebuild Gen1. They had a whole paid concert for it. It just makes sense marketing wise. You see many tatsunoko still staying just for the remaining Gen4.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gtiOlhMAmc Expected numbers?

>>7435966
MIGO STRONG

>>7436009
>>7435955
chances of these two being the same person are very high

>>7435955
>>7435906
This is the numbers thread you faggots

>>7435994
sorry i read wrong, i tought you want a median of all niji

>>7435966
Based Miko fending off the Niji army even when they are armed with their inauthentic buffs.

>>7436061
i know he's popular because i see him and hajime all the time but are his audience even interested in vtubers?

>>7435966
what's the api problem that has playboard so many streams?

>>7436125
that has playboard missing streams*
some one mentioned but did not explain it

>>7436080
you should go buy a lotto ticket anon-kun

>>7435955
i agree only because i'm sick of you guys shitting on my oshi now you'll finally leave him alone

>>7436101
all goods. I used to scrape their vnuma data but since that one died, and playboard is shit. My only choice is niji-mado but ugh I'm too lazy.

>>7436061
Holy shit hikakin collab?? What the fuck.

>>7436170
I wouldn't be so precipitate

>>7435955
>I'd be fine making this a Hololive only thread
That’s stupid. Only rule should be: If they’re not VTuber numbers, then don’t post them in a VTuber number thread. That includes the Olympic numbers crap.

>>7436161
>>7436125
I don't know for sure but youtube just updated their api and both playboard and holostats are dropping the same streams so
>>7436170
Nigger I too can whip out my phone and make a post

>>7436061
He gets like 20-30k live viewers per premiere. So with Hal and Kuzuha maybe 40-50k. It depends on how long the vid is

>>7435955
this does not sound so bad at this point

>>7436061
He's premiering his debut with Shibuhal and Kuzuha. His last premiered video got ~33,751 live viewers.

>>7436242
Look if you can find a vtuber only list feel free to share, but ever since vnuma went down ikkoi are the best we've got

>>7435706
Don't all of them track via the API? It's the only way to obtain the information without directly contacting YouTube in the first place. There must be something else going on that's triggering the missed tracking incidents.

>>7436061
another case of trendhopper suddenly becoming a "vtuber" huh

>>7436328
>Look if you can find a vtuber only list feel free to share
Just hide any non-VTuber related numbers then?

>>7436420
idk. a bot that pictures or captures live views in real-time is possible too.

I don't get why the vnuma guy didn't hand over the site to someone else.

>>7436495
I could do that but nah

>>7436575
he's too japanese

>>7436575
Japanese autism please understand.
Also of the changes he made to the site before he shut it down are anything to go by he's probably sick of 5ch using his site to do what we do here but in Japanese and several times worse

>>7436495
no, people shitposting about how we can save news channels is funny

>>7436621
>The VNUMA guy was a unitychad who just wanted to show off the popularity of vtubers as a whole and the big numbers they get
>His creating ended up becoming the #1 driving force of tribalist numberfags instead
What a tragedy

>>7436575
Japanese austismo, puris andasutando

Playboard has a VTuber category, but is missing VTubers.

>>7436723
i know Callie isn't under vtubers but who else is missing?

>>7436723
It also sometimes randomly missing streams from vtubers it has always picked up.

>>7436770
>It also sometimes randomly missing streams from vtubers it has always picked up
If it ever got fixed, it could be pretty decent.

Is Gura reclining?

>>7435646
You sound like you have your head up your ass
Are you the supervisor of this place?
Is every post here supposed to adhere to some imaginary standard? I suppose you've missed the amount offtopic of tribalposting and shitflinging that's happened which don't even mention any numbers.
Instead you seem to be focusing exlucively on the anon posting numbers because it's not supposedly up to your standards.
I'll be thankful if a post at least includes numbers.

>>7438607
You are as retarded as him for replying to a falseflaggin conversation that ended

>OP starts with a tribalfaggot meme, twice
>anon is surprised by the amount of tribalfaggots
wew i thought numberfags were smart

>>7435475
Thread supervisor here btw

>>7438926
Not everyone is a falseflagger. I assume that anon just needed a reminder of how stupid they sounded demanding posts in this thread to adhere to their standard when there are TONS of shit flinging posts here that don't even mention numbers.

>>7435536
I'm not too surprised that EN gen 1 aren't collabing all that much with IRyS when they can't even manage to get a collab amongst themselves most of the time. It's a pity because even EN Minecraft interactions have shown that they can get the numbers.

>>7434428
Putting the work is no a measure of success, in fact if you put in more work and achieve less success that's a sign of failure.

>>7433806
>>7439948
How is most watched streamer a stupid metric?
Isn't watch time an important metric for youtube? They want people staying on their website for longer periods of time so they prioritize discovery for videos with increased watch time
https://blog.youtube/news-and-events/youtube-now-why-we-focus-on-watch-time
You sound bitter just because Pekora dominates that metric

>>7440278
Because its a metric that overemphasises hours streamed over all else. I'm not discounting Pekora's achievements but optimising for hours watched is a stupid moves that trades away peak ccv and audience engagement for that.

Also why the fuck do you automatically assume that the only reason anyone has problems with that metric is because pekora is on it? Are you that insecure?

>>7440278
I like Pekora, that doesn't mean I think her goals are smart. She's a top streamer no matter the metric you use anyway, so I don't see why singling this one out would have anything to do with it. "Most watched streamer" can be defined in several ways, each of them giving you different insights on the scene. CCV*views happens to be a way that's extremely biased towards people who stream for a long time. For a clear example, you just have to look at how Watame tends to get way better results on that metric than on pretty much any other because she has a sizable captive audience for the huge amount of time she spends reading super chats nearly every day. Also, serving youtube's interests is an even dumber way to measure success, popularity or any of the things people are interested in when looking at /numbers/. You could argue that grinding for CCV*views is a valuable strategy to manipulate the algorithm in your favor, but if that's your point then straight up say that and don't try to pretend it's a good metric overall.

>>7440732
>CCV*views
I meant CCV*time.

>>7440642
>over all else
So when live viewers are posted where are you to complain about it focusing on one measurement over another? Or sub count? Why are only some numbers allowed to be discussed and not others?
Any numerical assessment of a vtuber should be posted here whether its stream time, VOD views, live views, sub count, superchats, even likes and dislikes.
I do agree that Stream Hatchett is retarded because not only does it name its charts wrongly, but it doesn't research all vtubers in its charts, only some. Hell, Fuwa Minato made it onto their hours stream chart.

>>7440846
>Why are only some numbers allowed to be discussed and not others?
Because some numbers have less biases than others making them easier to compare.

>>7440903
How does a number have a bias, barring Stream Hatchet?

>>7440846
Buddy no one is saying you can't post those numbers, feel free to post them but at the same time others are free to express why they think that number is dumb

Irys is getting 11k for Minecraft right now while Miko is getting around 18k for survival Minecraft

>>7435966
>Botans payday is on it
>Pekoras isn't
how do we save numberfagging?

Good observation raised by v-matome

>>7441226
Murder whoever the fuck is screwing around with YouTube' API and live viewer counts, and replace them with competent, well funded coders.

>>7440950
Bias appears in all shapes and forms. It's a case by case thing, but take live viewers for example. There's a bias there for streams during prime time to get more viewers. Of course, that's also countered by prime time being way more crowded with streams, and then there's a tendency for streamers with lower numbers to actually avoid prime-time so as to avoid competing with the top hitters, making the whole thing very messy and hard to account for.

Did anyone catch NijiEN peak numbers on their colab. I want to add all of it to see their combined viewership on this timeslot since tab-out theory is considered true these days.

>>7441281
But pajeets only cost pennies on the dollar.

>>7441241
>writing articles literally on the same level as the shittiest bait posts from this thread
They should just shut down their servers and hide away in embarrassment.

>>7441130
Irys needs to collab with someone that knows MC. Chat is infuriating as an info source. The girl is too sweet.

>>7441241
That is what makes it amazing. If you just look at the raw numbers you say "yeah, Hololive is winning but Niji is pretty healthy putting up good numbers"

But then you remember that Nijisanji has triple the amount of streamers as Hololive and then it really sinks in just how dominant Hololive truly is. They have really made an embarrassment out of Nijisanji.

>>7441401
It's about 8k (2.7k+2.1k+1.8k+1.1k+~800)
>>7441426
Yes, and then you have to spend hours of time trying to QC their garbage code and have to rewrite a third of it and when it's all said and done you ended up spending MORE money than if you just fucking did it in house anyways ahhhhhhhhjhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>7441528
Well you really just have to ignore those bait, and find numbers. They were completely shitting on Holo last month, still now.

>>7441241
only the niji jp branch can compete and even all of that the holo jp branch still mogs them. Here is an example of weekly views. 1.4m from NijiKR is 1.2m from bora alone.

>>7441528
Matome sites are basically just "4chan, if 4chan was a blog"

>>7441241
By "talent" they mean "talents" as in entertainers. Still the point stands. the new JP gen got pretty huge numbers but they're petering down and EN while nice are just drops in the bucket.

>>7441401
This is the only snapshot i got, numbers didn't fluctuate all that much though

>>7441241
Lol, you didn't get any replies when you posted untranslated version so you decided to post gtl intead. Pathetic.
(and it already shows that Nijisanji got ~23mln compared to Hololive with ~12mln in July anyway so 5ch is being retarded as usual)

>>7441401

>>7441241
If this is true where is the giant boost from Koshien from dissapointed JOPs who can't watch IRL baseball?

>>7442288
compared to the usual views of the streames involved it's a massive boost. none of them usually make it to the five digit viewcount except kuzuha and maaaaaybe kagami on an extremely good day. it's relative.

>>7442254
>>7442119
>>7441694
So about 8-9k huh. Do they get better numbers if it isn't a collab or is this their usual numbers? I remember some of them getting 4-5k while the others are streaming.

>>7442433
>streames
streamers*

>>7442288
That 20m bump from June to July IS the increase, but there are also a bunch of streams in August + the Olympics this year mean that rhe normie boost may not be as big as it could've been.
>>7442119

>>7442288
ccv boost not vod view.
>>7441241
here's another example. January monthly views.

>>7442455
Selen tops out at the upper end of 5k during her buff game, Apex, otherwise hovers around 3k.
Rosemi and Finana usually average around 2k if they aren't overlapping anyone

>>7435994
niji-mado hourly viewer thing started only from late July 17 so here's what I was able to scramble from afterwards.

>>7442493
Didn't they also have a bunch of 3d last month or was that June

>>7442531
HoloEN and NijiEN monthly views.

>>7442572
(keep in mind that most of Finana's big streams are collabs)

>>7441718
>May
Nijisanji was shitting on Holo for the past two months, update your numbers

>>7441718
Man May was a dark month for the Holostars.

So it looks like Kson's superchat numbers are right back where they used to be. One thing to note is that the total count of superchats is way higher than everyone else's.

If this keeps up and she does daily streams, I'm predicting she'll take highest SCs for Aug 2021.

>>7442629
you don't watch nijisanji or even keep up with numbers apparently, please go back

>>7442433
And Sasaki. And Ange.

>>7441241
>why would the one with more talent lose
Maybe because most of their more popular members doesn't stream as often as in Hololive where streaming is treated more like a job? (aside from several slackers)

>>7442433
And Kenmochi and Mito and Kanae

>>7442691
my bad
>>7442845
they're doing koushien streams?

>>7442845
Pretty sure he was talking about people who got boost from streaming PowerPro

>>7442536
>>7442455

Selen has gotten 5k on Apex once, you really shouldn't be using that as a baseline or indicator of future trends. Her average is more 2-3k.

>>7442927
>>7442572

>>7442939
Can they include the thumbnail because numbers without context is like fucking without foreplay.

>>7442680
I can't tell if you're serious and you actually think she'll beat Rushia for August.

>>7443015
You can do it yourself if you need it that much. I think it's pretty obvious which streams were Selen's Apex (and which stream was her Apex collab with Finana)

I wonder if there is any way to track the trend for clips views. HoloEN live viewers are slowly declining, i wonder if clips are also declining which means the interest as a whole are declining or if they stay the same or even growing, that would mean people simply switch to a less demanding way to maintain their interest.

>>7443221
There are so many clipchannels I qouldn't know where to start.

https://panora.tokyo/archives/31047
Weekly VOD views for 26 July - 01 August
Probably the first time Gura isn't on this list since her debut (and of course barring weeks she doesn't stream). She only had 2 streams for the period (Bardcore Karaoke and Taco Bell). Which is too bad since she was only 4-5k short of getting into the top 20. So if you ever wanted to dramafag about Gura reclining and Cumbabies no longer even watching her VODs, this is it.

>>7443461
That was posted already.

Hololive is reclining hard in the west. Their overseas fanbase is vanishing.

First time Petra fell under 1k viewers since she was streaming her least popular game at the same time as the collab between 4 other members.

>>7443794
>streaming her least popular game at the same time as the collab between 4 other members.
No she was playing MC after finishing one hand clapping and other members was about to end streams.
She is Anya tier

>>7430360
>resting on laurels
Her and Gura will be seen working at a maid cafe telling the patrons how much they used to make

>>7443927
My bad, I was watching the collab too.

>>7443637
Now make one of these when Gura is streaming

>>7443637
Almost seems like there was a 4 person collab with a 5th awkwardly streaming in a corner away from everyone else or something.

>>7442805
Classic Nijicope but okay

>>7443637
>Niji : 4 members big collab
>HoloEN: Only IRyS was streaming
Ogey

>>7442805
I doubt nijis could stream everyday anyway. They can't achieve the same numbers as a Holo in any given game. Pekora gets 20k+ on any JOP game/shows. 10k+ on subnautica. I doubt Kuzuha/Kanae/Toya/Mito could get the same numbers playing different games when they aren't boosted by oversea numbers. Playing Apex everyday isn't a solution either.

Anyway, does Chihiro's audience overlap with Holos? I stumbled into her stream yesterday while she was hitting some blocks. She was trying to talk in english yesterday and i find it cute, but I need to subscribe to chat to her and I didn't. I wonder how many nijis are trying to encourage overseas viewers to watch them too. Even I found Nui/Toko sometimes asking or speaking English to their viewers by words of "Kaigainiki".

Huh.
Why was the name of this thread changed again?

>>7444259
But that's literally how it is?
Look at the July averages >>7435220
Kuzuha 23,873 average (31 stream)
Kenmochi 20,108 average (7 streams)
Mito 16,550 average (12 streams)
Lize 12,010 average (11 streams)

>>7444351
Out of all pekora Subnatica streams only the last one got bellow 20k views and it still was at 18k

>>7444351
Speaking English in a 7 hour stream is not asking for outside watchers who watch EN vtubers like Hololive, it's talking to her own overseas fans.

>>7443637
because the niggers are using an old thread.

>>7444477
The matome blog guy was talking about views, not CCV. And Niji is utterly destroyed by Hololive despite having 3 times more people. And that numbers didn't even include Holostars, just pure Hololive.

>>7444499
Yeah, that's why I asked if their audience overlaps with Hololive or something. I just stumbled upon her seeing that she was playing minecraft and coincidentally, she was also speaking in English at the time. I don't think there was any other Holos playing iirc. Anyway, Chihiro seems like a nice girl to watch before Rushia starts her gameplay yesterday.

>>7443927
I mean, Anya is an ID so her numbers are understandable, I guess...
But Petra is an EN.

I've been out of the loop for a while now. How are everyone's numbers looking?

>>7442593
Really puts into perspective just how much NijiEN is being crushed by HoloEN. The top HoloEN talent has almost 14 times the views as the top NijiEN talent. Insane difference.

>>7444831
Holo - Okay
Niji - Okay
Indie - Don't care

>>7444351
she responds to viewers and yeah, her english is really cute. she's sort of working on english but i'm not sure if it's to talk to viewers or apex players. last month she was playing quite a bit with an australian pro player who speaks some japanese.

>>7441130
Irys is still at 11k. It's way past NA primetime except for PST. Almost 3hrs. On a side note, Doxfags needs to burn alive.

Just want to get the opinions of the thread, should Kson be included in daily numbers charts for streams where she uses her vtuber model?

>>7444963
100 dollars for that?
They could've done like holo historian and gotten adsense from their stupid doxx instead

>>7444638
Shouldn’t it be a given numbers are gonna be so spread out across so many people when they all stream over each other

>>7444988
Yes
Inuyama Tamaki streams without the vtuber model too sometimes and he's still counted

>>7444988
Sure, why not?

>>7444988
Scrolling her channel, she seems to have way more vtuber streams than irl streams. But, I stopped looking after 2 years. I heard she does the majority of her irl streams on milfdom. I know the shitflinging she causes, but based on what I see on her channel as long as she's using the Live2D, why not? She would count as an indie.

>>7444988
just count her in, the audience overlaps enough too

>>7444826
That's the thing. NijIEN is about even with HoloID in terms of live viewers..

>>7441554
Ready for some real numbers?

>>7444351
As far as I know Chihiro is mostly working on some English just for Apex purposes. I don't watch much of her usually. I do watch Nui though and she doesn't encourage EOPs at all, she just responds as best as she can to the ones she does have. To put it in numbers, she posted on the Niji reddit 3 times 6-7 months ago and then never again. She didn't even get added as a moderator. On the other end of the spectrum, Akane and Haruka have posted on the reddit maybe 100 times.

>>7444963
Yeah, very solid numbers for IRyS and she has maintained it for hours. Perhaps the people saying her channel is dead are shitposters after all.

>>7444988
>Kson has much better numbers when she's not using her vtuber model to stream.
Why she still want to be a vtuber?

>>7445181
You heavily overestimate live viewership for that channel based on the number of subscribers I imagine.

>>7445286
i think it's a premiere and not a live stream (unless that's what you meant)

>>7445273
She should move her e-thot streams to Twitch and keep the Vtuber streams on Youtube that way she can get double the monthly membership/subscription money.

>>7445273
She doesn't like make-up

>>7444963
That's way better than the new NijiJP debuts. Amazing numbers even now that debut buff is gone.

>>7445402
Oh so she's JP Pokimane.

>>7445402
Isn't that the same reason why Lilypichu has a vtuber model

>>7445442
Almost no-one in HoloEN streams these hours on the regular, and there is a real audience on the west-coast that is under-served by HoloEN right now. Only the occasional ame stream and gura's longer-running streams ever hit that spot.
There's also the novelty of having an absolute noobie learn the ropes by herself in the desolate wastes of the EN server.

>>7445452
Influential in the medium. A legend. Numberfags love her. And the first individual in existence to rake in $1million dollars in superchats within 8 months of being active. Unlike pokimane. The only people who make that comparison are fuck faces like you.

>>7445162
> Even
HoloID still mogs them though. Moona and Ollie perform better than Selen and Elira.
It hasn't been a month yet and Petra has declined to Anya's level. Give it another few weeks, and she'll decline further.

>>7445570
Why are you cocofags so fragile it's just a comparison of hating makeup

>>7445570
Pokimane is alright

>>7445653
>(You)
>Doesn't know that pokimane is only hated here because her fanbase is cancerous filth
>Uses make-up as an excuse to the make the comparison
>"Why are you cocofags so fragile it's just a comparison of hating makeup"

>>7445515
IRyS seems to be performing around Noel's performance.
https://holo.poi.cat/vtuber/irys
https://holo.poi.cat/vtuber/noel
If IRyS can either vitalize the EN server or spam JP collabs, and stream as often as she's been so far, then it's very possible for her to reach 1M subs before the end of the year.

>>7445793
Calm down. I know nothing about Pokimane except that she wanted a model because she didn't like using make-up. It's not some attack on Kson

>>7445804
Is it possible that she'll beat Ollie to 1M? She's more than halfway there already

>>7445804
Yeah, despite what the doomers would have you believe IRyS is doing VERY well. I think people naturally like her more laid back personality and are attracted to her because she is a bit of an airhead. She's really cute. I think people calling her a failure have just had their brain rotted by Gura numbers. Gura is a special case that no EN vtuber will produce again, not even HoloEN gen 2.

>>7446333
>not even HoloEN gen 2
EN 2 will have a cunny and you're gonna regret your words

>>7436161
This is just and assumption based on what others have written in previous threads. But it seems to have to do with quotas for the Youtube Api.
Every request done towards the api has a cost tied to it and you have a limited pool to use every day / api-key you have, that limit is by default 10000. The cost of retrieving info on a video/live video is 1.
The following is just assumptions since I haven't dug through the code base of Holostats, but I assume they hit the cap that they didn't before. Either because Youtube has become stricter with enforcing the limits or because there are more streams overall now.

Just to clarify what I mean is that from what I can tell by the graphs on Holostats they retrieve info for a stream 4 times every minute. So for only Pekora's Payday 2 stream they've used up ~480 requests just to get CCV numbers for that stream.

On top of gathering the live views they also update all channels every day(at least once) with sub/total views info. There is also a cost tied to that.

There are more talent now then before and some have a higher output then before. These things would add up.

There might be ways around it, i.e. using more api-keys to create a false higher ceiling. But it might also be that the fix Youtube did to the quotas is an IP-lock for the key, i.e. only 10 k resources/key/ip. Google has this restriction on other Api but it's not a documented thing on the Youtube Api.

I have no idea if Playboard has the same setup, but if they are using the API then they would run the same risk of running out of quota.

This is ofc just speculations, hopefully those that host Holostats are willing to share what's going wrong but who knows.

>>7445793
>>7445570
Stop triggering like a feminist
>>7446298
No, she's slowed down to low incline Holo numbers, 3-5k a day or so. At her current rate she'll take 5 months just to close the existing gap, never mind surpass Ollie.

>>7446298
Ollie is gaining ~2k subs a day and needs ~250k to 1 mil.
IRyS is gaining ~3k subs a day and needs ~450k to 1 mil.
Ollie will hit a mill in 4 months assuming she keeps her current pace, while IRyS gets there in 5. We don't know how their sub-growth will be affected by future events (song buffs, networking/collab buffs, etc)
>>7446333
>Cunny buff
>Standout singing in debut instantly drew the spotlight to her
>Straddles the line similar to 90s cartoons with her humor, appealing to a wide audience
>Buffed by YT algo due to her model and the ability to dance on the line so she isn't labeled as 'adult'
>Algo boost due to clip environment changing due to the implosion of Hololive Moments commiting seppuku
Gura's success, a mixture of luck and natural talent at being an entertainer, is something that we're highly unlikely to see again.

>>7446298
I think so. IRyS is currently performing twice better than Ollie on subs, VODs, and live numbers, but IRyS hasn't collabed with the JP branch yet, so I think IRyS could accelerate her growth even further.

>>7446437
There's a 450-750k subscriber gap between IRyS and Ollie? It looks like around 200k to me. So did you mean 2 months to close the existing gap?

So, I've been seeing posts about this dude here and found out just now that Fubuki also retweets about this guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gtiOlhMAmc

He's a freaking 9.57M Youtuber, but somehow he's been getting spams on the level of Coco right now. I don't know bout him, but is he hated?

>>7442629
Weren't May and June completely dominant months for Hololive and July and August supposed to be the months where Nijis strike back? Coco's graduation month made June insane for Hololive. Graph anon can back me up on this so I'm not BSing without numbers.

>>7446575
same reason people hate pokimane and pewdiepie and normie streamers hating vtubers.

>>7446575
>Im from Kuzuha *angry face*
>Kuzuha has no fans/lower views
>Please block the spam
>Fujoshi audience
>YAMETEーーーーー
>I am the strongest who ruins the chat *dab*
Coupled with a bunch of people making fun of Kenmochi spamming the joy emoji and going LOLILOLILOLI *joy* AGO AGO AGO *joy*
It's like your average Twitch chat fucking lol. Hikakinfags are playing around but some seem annoyed thinking it's Kuzuhafags spamming. While I typed this I saw someone start spamming random names of Niji livers.
Go run some screenshots through Yandex, it's funny.

4 hour Minecraft streams were not really what I expected when they announced an EN VSinger but it's pretty cool she has maintained 10-12k throughout even with burgers sleeping.

>>7436519
Would this be any different than actually reading directly from the live feed? It's still contacting YouTube, and you still need to track who is live and when.

>>7446754
Kuzuha fans are known weirdos, like proper possessive shitposters.

>>7446754
I recognize some of those, they're the same alts that spam katou jun in chii's chat last tourney. Seems like there's massive seething from the anti-v camp that hikakin is dipping his toes in vtubing.

>>7446808
I don't think you understand. The joke is they're all mocking vtubers and their fans right now like how some of Kuzuha's fans (and vtuber fans in general) will run into his friends chats and go I just came from Kuzuha (pigeoning) and spamming Nijisanji memes with the joy emoji, or spamming kaomoji going "Omg did you drink water? I just came home from a meeting(*≧з≦)! Goodmorning __kun!

>>7446885
>Omg did you drink water?
ha

>>7446885
Some weirdo is spamming Konpeko~ in chat right now

>>7446919

>>7446861
Yep Chii-chan antis have arrived.

>>7444988
VTuber discussion is not forbidden in the board, so there is no reason to exclude her from daily viewer/view tracking, just like how Nyanners and bahroo is on topic for having vtuber models (and to a lesser extent how shitposters skirted the rules with sodapoppin). Anything else is pretty much off-topic since you can't reasonably divorce her VTuber stuff from her real persona that also belongs to that account.

>>7446484
>Cunny buff
Look at Anya and Petra or even JP side
There is no popular loli vtuber besides Gura
Cunny has never been a buff

>>7446756
9.4k now. She's tired. A lot fell asleep because it's 3AM already. She should call it a day.

>>7443079
Not him, but I think it might be totally possible. This month is supposed to be her return (or redebut depends on how you see it) month as a VTuber. She should be getting a lot of views and SCs so I wouldn’t be surprised if she reigns supreme again.
Whether she could keep that up for another two or three months is a different matter, though

>>7446575
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikakin?wprov=sfla1
Here's the dude, he's actually a pretty famous guy. Hell Aqua's akukin kensentsu is named after his company

How many collabs Kuzuha have done so far with jp content creators, and did it boost his subs? Last I remember was that among us one.

Before you fags attack me, I'm trying to sense if forcingly associating with normies work.

>>7447044
She found diamonds, now she's killing time

>>7447175
Soraru (vtuber/utaite) teamed up with him and Kanae in a tournament, with practice beforehand
https://youtu.be/c5cfVj80dg0
Vodka (FPS) & Kanae team, with practice beforehand
https://youtu.be/iB8bXfe36dQ
https://www.youtube.com/user/vodkaplaysful

>>7447175
I think Kuzuha's mega normie circle started from Kanae introducing him to Soraru, then mafumafu joined, then he got paired with akagami for an apex duo tourney, and THAT collab earned him the ticket to the among us collab where Kuzuha was introduced as the 'peak' of vtubers (the collab was about pitting people best in their fields against each other), which quite possibly led to this situation.

Also, that 45k+ viewers among us gwelu did a couple days ago? That collab was with 4 early NND era fossils. Most could only wonder how the fuck gwelu got a hold of Napoli no Otokotachi.

>>7447513
Nijisanji is a literal household name in Japan so it’s no damn surprise while hololive is centred towards the otaku.

I saw a another thread complaining that they didn’t choose pekora or how hikakin is collabing with “whos” while being ignorant about how big they are in Japan or not knowing who fucking hikakin is.

>PekoMoona Cover
Chance for big numbers of on Pekora channel, slightly smaller on Moona’s

>>7447646
>falling for cheap bait and falseflaggers

>>7447365
Oh.. Apex and tournament at that. Result-oriented and can be double-edge.

>>7447513
The among us I referred to actually was bigger, it reached 70k(?) viewers. This one was also with mafumafu.

>>7447646
Please don't think that thread is anything but the shittiest of bait.

>>7447690
A lot if not all of Kuzuha's non vtuber company collabs are via Apex tournaments or Kanae's friends.

>>7447666
>>7447717

I think the worse part that some retards is that thread are actually serious. Also the meme that hololive has overtaken nijisanjis in Japan is now dead considering the biggest YouTube in Japan is collabing with one of the nijisanji members and the face of apex in Japan.

It’s funny because the jun fans are seething about it in the premiere chat.

>>7447751
(You)

>>7447751
Then we have gwenlu somehow getting the old NND heads to collab with each other. The connections they have is autistic but insane.

Kanae played apex with king gnu too

>>7444638
If vtuber streams less often they get less amount of views. Do I really need to explain this to you?

>>7445286
Hikakin still gets like ten time more views than Pekora monthly. So it should be better to wait for that instead.

>>7447751
>Also the meme that hololive has overtaken nijisanjis in Japan is now dead considering the biggest YouTube in Japan is collabing with one of the nijisanji members and the face of apex in Japan
Is this part of the bait? That would be the equivalent of saying
> the meme that Hololive dominates the west is dead because (let’s say) Mito is collaborating with Pokimane and C9 Keech, the face of valorant in the west (pretend this makes sense)

I agree that Hololive did not yet achieve the same mind share Nijisanji has in Japan but to pretend a collab is any evidence for that is silly

>>7447830
You know he's baiting yet you willingly replied to it...

>>7447830
But it’s true though nijisanji at one Hal is literally the face of apex in Japan and holds multiple tournaments for it. He appeared in an Nintendo ad one time too.

We don’t even need to talk about kuzuha considering he’s the biggest male from nijisanji by a long shot.

Also haven’t you seen the stupid shit holofags kept saying that nijisanjis is dead in Japan but it has always haven’t been the case? Where the fuck have you been

>>7447751
>biggest YouTube in Japan
Fuck off ESL Nijinigger
Biggest YouTuber in Japan is Pekora's husband Jun

>>7447845
It ain’t bait it’s the fucking truth, I don’t know why you think it’s bait, hololive absolutely dominates the western landscape which is a pure fact while also mogging nijisanji in getting a Korean audience but they’re still not as big in their home country.

>>7447904
Jun is just a drama NND fag and his fans are extremely cancerous, you might even see that cancer today actually funny enough.

>I TOLD YOU FOLKS ABOUT TAIWAN LOVE FOR SUISEI
They’re giving her the “princess ride”, putting ads to celebrate her 1M on their buses

>>7447646
hololive panders to these people. think about hikakins life!

>>7447930
He’s objectively numerically the biggest YouTuber in Japan

>>7447952
>I TOLD YOU FOLKS ABOUT TAIWAN LOVE FOR SUISEI
what? Even Chinese fans still love her.

The biggest youtuber in Japan is actually a kiddie channel. Also some tiktoker whose humour I can't understand at all is quickly catching up.

>>7447952
Based

>>7447989
That junya guy is the biggest. Made his account sept last year and already 9.2m subs.

>>7448050
Do you find his stuff funny?

>>7447989
UUOOOOOOHHH

>>7447989
Why japs such pedo?

Do fags forget how recognisable hikakin is for the Japanese? Well I forgot this thread mostly focuses on big shiny numbers. In other news anycolor released a staff interview.

https://twitter.com/anycolor_inc/status/1422468452489392128?s=21

>>7447788
I think this is a case where we can clearly see the difference in company culture between Holos and Nijis.

Nijis are definitely way normie, probably more well-known in non-otaku circles, and open to collabing with non-vtuber related guests. On the other hand, holofans seem more interested in seeing holomembers collab with one another rather than collabing with non-hololive guests.

Even if we ignore /vt/'s retarded response to Calli collabing with Trash Taste, the response to HoloEN girls collabing with non-vtuber related people is lukewarm at best. As a holofan, I can't say I'll be that hyped if Gura did a collab with Pokimane or even an actual celeb like Selena Gomez. To a holofan, a PekoMoon collab is probably more hype than if Pekora got invited to play Among Us with famous celebs. It might be something that makes Hololive more of a self-enclosed environment, which can prevent them from being fully mainstream. I mean, their proclivity against collabing with males already limits them in this regard greatly. Pekora will never play Apex with Yonezu even if given the chance to lol. However, that doesn't seem to be holding them back numbers-wise tho.

>>7447887
>Also haven’t you seen the stupid shit holofags kept saying that nijisanjis is dead in Japan but it has always haven’t been the case? Where the fuck have you been
Anon, stop caring so much about what idiots think. It's entirely possible for Hololive and Nijisanji to be big in Japan. Just because Nike does well, doesn't mean Adidas is dead. Only tribalists think otherwise.

>>7448062
I dont watch tiktokers

>>7448050
So this is the fabled Japanese humor...
https://youtu.be/ftbUWf3pnEw
None of the comments are Japanese.

>>7448121
>holofans seem more interested in seeing holomembers collab with one another
They're more interested in new outfits and debuts than that.

>>7448121
Yeah nijisanjis goal was always trying to get out of the vtuber niche with their shows and stuff on their YouTube channel with levigacha and nijibara being the biggest examples.

It worked in the long run as they now have all these insane connections.

>>7448165
>levigacha
lol

>>7448145
If Hololive collabs with... that, I'm going from a fan to an anti. Fuck the numbers man, it's not worth it.

>>7448145
>>7448200
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Junya. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Junya’s nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance.

>>7448145
Why are japs like this?
This is even more worse than US Tik Tok videos

>>7448121
Chumbuds definitely aren't interested in any collabs. They'd rather just watch Gura

I hope you guys didn't click on that because it will unload cancer upon your recommendations.

>>7448243
You should see what passes for funny on Chinese half of TikTok (dounya?)
Pretty much that, but with a laughing track and for the most part, fake “pranks” where everybody is in it (except the laughing track, which laughs begrudgingly because it’s their job)

>>7448272
I browse incognito.

>Choco plays with herself in front of an audience of 6k doing nothing but exposing her chests and rearranging them while talking seductively (no clickbait)

>>7439948
well, the streamers that made it there for sure are not failures. also apparently the only metric that matters to you is "optimizing the algorithm" because unsurprisingly your oshit is only good at that. and it's literally just dirty, pure luck. so it's biased towards lucky folks.

>Lain 7k on zatsudan
inclining?

>>7448333
Guise she’s gonna be dead for sure now guise since her singing was average guise! I swear numberfags are utter retards

>>7448314
>inclining
Go Choco Go

>>7448165
I didn't know Kuzuha was so well-connected
I thought he mostly streamed solo

>>7448409
He literally collabed with hiromoot and other celebrities just recently.

>>7448165
>>7448121
makes little sense given that they still play into niche otaku like merch and tropes.
is a losing race in my opinion.

>>7448409
Nijisanji as a whole have good connections.

>>7448409
It's within the last ~10 months

Seems like there is clearly an audience for late (burger) night / early (EU) morning / mid (JP) afternoon chill Minecraft streams.

Irys pulling very good numbers (and retaining them for most of the stream), Miko doing summer Miko on Hardcore Minecraft (where she already took a zenloss in her second day) and Lamy and Choco getting good numbers too.

>>7448409
The other Niji anon stated, the starting point is through Kanae's networking. Kuzuha having higher sub just reap it.

>>7448333
She is sub10k no point on keep eyes on her. She only does zatsu, is her main content at thsi point.

>>7448472
Lamy was streaming around primetime for NA actually. No Ame/Gura/Ina streams today either. She is known for doing early streams tho.

It's still not a great time for a EN streamer imo because once it gets pass midnight for EST, people start dropping out.

https://holo.poi.cat/stream/8xdwXb40D90
Irys's stream peaked around 10pm PST/1am EST and tampered off after because people in the east coast have to sleep. Well, it's better than her last 2am PST/5am EST stream at least tho.

>>7448512
>She only does zatsu,
Did you miss her singing and recent gaming stream, holy fuck.

Numberfags suffer from brain damage

>>7448536
That anon is clearly ESL and can't even form proper sentences. Don't respond to retards and baiters, anon. You're better than that.

>>7448502
how does Kanae network then when he has lower sub count

>>7448333
More like stabilizing.

>>7448518
>once it gets pass midnight for EST, people start dropping out.
I thought that so but her holding an audience until that peak in 1AM EST was interesting enough, but holding 80% of the audience until the end shows there is an audience further west in the States that are underserved because it was them joining the stream that smoothed out the east coasters jumping out.

I could see Irys pulling a Watame and streaming late night chill Micra

How big are the other Expos compared to AX?

>>7448570
Not nearly as big, this is just the girls taking in some cash for a guest appearance/free advertising. They'll likely be the biggest attractions at those expos.

>>7448546
Do you think contacting celebs only happens via sub count? He knows them off stream then invites them on. In King Gnu's case, King Gnu was a fan of Kanae's friend Waiwai and always dreant of playing with him so the trio collabed.
Kanae is just a social butterfly.

>>7448570
Before the chink coof (let's say 2014)
>AX packed 80k people
>FanExpo Dallas, 50k people

They're all still midgets in comparison with the big expos in Asia
>Comiket surpasses 700k people

>>7448546
Why do numberfags think only numbers are important?

>>7448591
>>7448639
idk why you guys bothered responding when he's clearly brain damaged. Come on guys, what he said was literally retarded.

>>7448580
It is indeed a "fan" expo. I'm a seanig, so can't grasp the relevancy of these celebs: https://fanexpohq.com/megaconorlando/celebrities/

I cross-checked and they pull about the same numbers as they claim. But I do see why AX is bigger. These other expos are more of a normie event.

>>7448613
AX surpasses 100k since 2016...boomeranon...

>>7448613
Goddamn the real deal

>>7448680
The main goal for Western cons is for the organizers and guest speakers to make money from hosting panels. Soon you'll see HoloEN fraternizing with the English dub voice acting scene.

>>7448613
>Before the chink coof (let's say 2014)
Uhhhh anon? The coof started Febuary 2020.
https://www.anime-expo.org/2019/07/11/28th-annual-anime-expo-delights-350k-fans-japanese-pop-culture/
>350k

>>7448718
Oh no no no no
Nijibros not like this

>>7448570
Fanexpo leaf edition
>130k
Boston
>45k

>>7448741
Niji also participated in anime expo so that’s a retarded bait

>>7448685
>AX surpasses 100k since 2016
Fair enough, still midgets

>>7448718
>359k
HAHAHAHA
>he fell for the "asterisk" meme.

110k is not to sneeze at but they're still very small in the big picture

>>7448717
Look, considering at least one of the HoloEn gals had voice dub aspirations and Mori+Kiara were in that shadowverse tourney with Faye, it's more a question of 'when' than 'if'. I just hope they can keep the politics shit out for as long as possible.

>>7448718
This is crazy how much anime culture has grown in the west recent years

>>7448717
>Soon you'll see HoloEN fraternizing with the English dub voice acting scene.
You realize that's exactly what that CDawg bloke is, except he's small time

>>7448795
It did but that article quotes "350k turnstiles", meaning each person coming in each day counts as 1 turnstile per time he enters the pavilion

>>7448121
So, with the collab, did it put Kuzuha into the e-celeb status of Japan or is he dipping his toes in it? I haven't seen any noticeable changes in Kuzuha's numbers since all he's doing the past month was getting buffed.

>>7448812
>meaning each person coming in each day counts as 1 turnstile per time he enters the pavilion
That's a really unreliable way to show real attendees numbers

>Holo merch at Akihabara
it is remarkable that even Holoblokes are represented.

>>7448982
where's irys

>>7449001
Too new

>>7449001
Who?

Shut up Leos is streaming
I'm pretty sure he can reach 20k

>>7449035
Leave him alone!!!!

>>7449035
You need to stop sucking every nijimale dick who get big numbers even as a shitpost, it's getting really annoying.

>>7448899
I mean, what even is the baseline for a e-celeb? I think many Nijis and Holos are already bigger than the e-celebs they collab with. Even in that Hiromoot e-celeb among us collab, Kuzuha's POV had the most viewers and he was the most subbed participant IIRC.

I do think it'll be interesting to keep an eye on Hal and Kuzuha's subcounts after the Hikakin video tho. All his VODs get millions of views and his vtuber debut VOD will bring a lot of normie exposure to Kuzuha and Hal.

>>7449058
>>7449084
That bloke will singlehandedly burn every single niji for the sake of his shitposts.

>>7449035
???

>inb4 OHNONONONO NIJIKEKS EXPLAIN THIS
Fucking timeloops

OH NO NO NO NO NIJIKEKS EXPLAIN THIS

>Choco Sensei autistically arranging her chests is her most watched non ASMR stream in a good while
Anyone has a clue about why? I usually watch Choco but I don't get why the very good numbers.

Maybe a combination of nothing else being on, and her world famous autism but anyway, I don't get it

>>7449035
I'm predicting around 30-40k. screencap this