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74240965 No.74240965 [Reply] [Original]

To think all NijiEN's downfall started because they rushed to write a Selen termination notice.
They could have just talked it out with Selen behind the scenes, schedule a graduation stream and then move on with minimal damage.

Say what you want about holo, but they are at least professional and keep the drama out of the publics eye.

>> No.74241174

It will never not be hilarious that Riku took an ass blasting for EN only for Elira and co to preemptively render it all pointless.

>> No.74241279

"They could have just talked it out with Selen behind the scenes" So could have Selen?

>> No.74241405

>>74241279
Paki chan...

>> No.74241415

>>74241279
I mean that was what she wanted a graduation on her terms

>> No.74241442

>>74241174
Imagine his fucking face when he found out what those three retards did.

>> No.74241451

>>74241279
>Fail to respond to Nijisanji in 24 hours
>They now own your organs

>> No.74241493

>>74240965
They will take your computer.

>> No.74241497

>>74241279
Imagine thinking you had a gotcha there. That’s literally what she wanted, to graduate peacefully. They were the ones who went scorched earth

>> No.74241543

>>74240965
I buy the theory that their staff didn't speak English, machine-tled her emails and the HR complaint doc from her lawyer, and panicked like retards thinking they were going to release it publicly. It's the only way a lot of their actions make any sense.

>> No.74241927

>>74241543
It's pretty obvious by now that they had no one in corporate who could speak English fluently, that was how the clique got power in the first place.

>> No.74241937

>>74241405
Explain Paki-chan with goats and farmers otherwise they won't get it.

>> No.74242010

I feel bad for Riku, he wanted to open a market for EN audience and created one. Gave chances to many people who would never have made it bigger anywhere else that is not holo calibre, gives them plenty of support and advertisements to help their Niji career but some of them livers had to be retarded like Zaion and break rules that even kids can understand and restrain themselves from committing it. We all know how noisy Selen can get with demanding projects to Nijisanji's management, calm down missy, let the management sort them out first in a slow and relaxed mannerisms. Selen was always pushing projects and keep miscalculating that her projects are not very profitable and brings more loses than gains. And she even had the audacity to ask for a quiet graduation despite being contracted for at least two more years, Selen was just looking for a way out once she gets the clout she needed from Riku and Nijisanji. But at the very least Selen is respectable enough not to pile more attacks on Niji, unlike Mika and Mysta's reincarnations. Fucking ungrateful livers always wanting more than what they are worth for.

>> No.74242092

>>74241497
Niji aren't the ones who said "go fuck yourself" to management and released an unapproved cover.

>> No.74242189

>>74242010
I feel bad for the people, not Riku.

>> No.74242263

>>74240965
NijiEN's "downfall" started when the Chinese began to leave in late 2022 and anything else is borderline irrelevant.

>> No.74242265

>>74242010
Female hands typed this prattle

>> No.74242349

>>74242010
Holy ESL, Batman!

>> No.74242375

>>74240965
Selen tried to kill herself what twice? No intention of acting rationally

>> No.74242386

>>74242092
Who gives a fuck
Her ‘rElEaSiNg An UnApRoVeD cOvEr’ doesn’t even slightly matter compared to the shit they’ve done

>> No.74242397

>>74240965
I think it's the one-two punch of Zaion's and Selen's termination. Zaion made a crack in Niji's armor and Selen plunges the sword in the opening. Except actually Niji did both of those things

>> No.74242462

>>74242010
Maybe the doxxsite should have stayed up

>> No.74242472

>>74240965
Let's be go completely honest, anon, their downfall started well before Zaion. The way NijiEN was set up from the start with minimal investment & zero oversight, they built the cracks that would bring it all down right into the foundation.

>> No.74242533

>>74242092
Remind me again why management had revoked the approval for that cover in the first place? You know, the cover that she and a bunch of artists had been working on for months? The cover that she sent to management for checking, and then they ghosted her for 36 hours before telling her that they needed to get perms for their own IP?

THAT cover?

>> No.74242545

>>74241937
I'll do it

Imagine there's a big farm with different groups: the goats and the farmers. The goats are like a team of entertainers who perform for everyone on the farm. One of the goats, let's call her Selen, decides she wants to leave the group. But she wants to do it quietly, without making a big fuss, like whispering behind the barn. She hopes any problems or disagreements can be solved without everyone knowing.

But the leader of the farmers, let's call him Anycolor, disagrees. Instead of letting Selen leave peacefully, Anycolor tells everyone on the farm that Selen was a bad performer who didn't follow the rules.

However, many of the other goats on the farm don't agree with Anycolor. They think Selen is a great performer and they support her. This causes a bit of a fight between the goats and the farmers, with some supporting Selen and others supporting Anycolor.

Because of this fight, some of the other animals on the farm start to think Anycolor isn't being fair. They don't trust him as much as they used to, which causes problems for the farm. So, even though Anycolor tried to make Selen look bad, it ended up causing trouble for him and the farm.

>> No.74242572
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Selen could have just waited a could days, I don't get it
The majority of NijiEN's bad reputation is from rrats she spread too. Why do you think the vast majority of big vtubers refuse to interact with her? Anyone with a chance at getting insider knowledge knows how it went down. And the ironic part is that she's not even good enough as a streamer to maintain her numbers despite her massive buff. Quit sucking her dick already.

>> No.74242586

>>74242010
Post tits

>> No.74242644

>>74241279
...Wasn't that all she wanted to do and what she was explicitly trying to do? Niji made everything public.

>> No.74242657
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74242657

pretty sure the downfall began when some stupid kid named riku decided to start a idol company with 0 experience :D and his daddy's trustfund plus it was rumored he had other businesses that failed in the past

>> No.74242689

>>74242545
>many of the other goats on the farm don't agree with Anycolor.

Yeah, sure, lol. There is absolutely no indication of anyone there supporting Doki and she didn't even mention having friends there. Everyone she's ever known bar Yugo has ghosted her.

>> No.74242703

>>74242657
petras neck lol

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>>74242010

>> No.74242730

>>74242010
Not fooling anyone, Riku.

>> No.74242737

>>74241279
Hard to do it sis, when the other party ignores you

>> No.74242781

>>74242010
Feeling bad for the CEO over Selen is the stupidest take ever.
>"We all knot how noisy Selen can be blah blah blah"
I dunno, anon, maybe if your precious CEO had cracked his wall open even slightly to hire a few dedicated staff to like, i don't know, negotiate sponsorship contracts and tardwrangle "noisy" livers? Your stupid annoying NijiEN would probably have turned into the #1 vtuber company and made all us Holofags seethe forever. But that wasn't the plan, building something that would last and make money forever; they just wanted to squeeze a quick dime out of braindead fujoshi like you.

>> No.74242798

>>74242545
The only thing I disagree is that many goats are obedient to the farmer because they like being fed without having to search for food on their own, and they want to keep the status quo as long as they can.

>> No.74242806

>>74242386
Go on then, what shit did they do? Any proof?

>> No.74242833

>>74242572
>Quit sucking her dick already.
You sisters only think about dick.

>> No.74242858

>>74242572
>The majority of NijiEN's bad reputation is from rrats she spread too.
The clique has been a rrat for years and before Selen even debuted.

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>>74240965
NijiEN's downfall started the very second they let gen 3 and luxiem's success dictate the direction of the entire company, which was like 2 years ago.
As a former niji fan, I knew it was over the second the males and male orbiters like Enna and Nina got preferential treatment over Pomu and Selen.

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74242902

well a lot of people back home are blaming the na market rather then kurosanji's shitty busines pratices :D

>> No.74242907

>>74242689
Better question. Why is everybody not explicitly being paid by Nijisanji siding with Doki over them?

>>74242572
>Why do you think the vast majority of big vtubers refuse to interact with her?
every single one's sided with Doki though. She's collabed with nearly all of the top dogs, too.

>> No.74242947

>>74242858
And the three stooges from the black stream confirmed that rrat

>> No.74242961

>>74242858
>The clique has been a rrat for years
Everything is a rrat, always. It's just that, until the Niji fuckup, few corpos had been retarded enough to confirm and validate any rrat.

>> No.74242974

>>74242725
they're right, and it's kind of funny how the ex-Nijis in Vshojo always make sure to hammer home how amazing Management is now and how they can finally get a play button and turn around to play defense for Niji a month later

>> No.74242987

>>74242806
>Go on then, what shit did they do? Any proof?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VtIfkDY-0l6xtr7Usp-vPPM_GM3KqGdZbCANhixnvoA/edit

>> No.74243100

>>74242572
>Selen could have just waited a could days, I don't get it
Niji spent the last of its good grace a long time ago.

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>>74242974
don't you know they was clearly bribed by Vshojo to shit on their previous employer ... - some sister most likely

>> No.74243180

>>74243114
I have the weirdest rrat that Niji and VShojo are in cahoots behind the scenes.

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74243189

>>74242657

>> No.74243212

>>74242092
We've known for months now that the problem with the video was that it featured former talents.

Management took it down over "copyright permissions" when the offending material was THEIR copyright.

There is no universe, no plane of existence where that's even remotely sensical. Just like Zaion getting in trouble for playing another talent's song on her stream.

>> No.74243244

>>74243180
They're all good friends, yeah
Nina and Mysta just couldn't take the heat and Pomu and Yugo are mentally ill hags

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74243302

>>74243212
>Play our songs? You can't do that!
>Play Towa and Okayu's BGMs? POOOOOG

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>>74243212
>Just like Zaion getting in trouble for playing another talent's song on her stream.
but Luca got off scott free for playing Towa's copyrighted music.

>> No.74243376

>>74242010
>Turbofaggot slavebrained yammering
As expected from niggersisters

>> No.74243443

>>74242974
Sure sis, remember all the insults and beatings ae for your own good, they are justified, those who treat you well hate you. Now back to whatever you live which is not a civilized society.

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>>74242010

>> No.74244089

>>74242010
This site is gonna go to shit now that the doxxsite manager decided to do the right thing and send you all to fuck off like the whores you are.

>> No.74244155

>>74242644
You mean when she threatened to drag it to the public if she didn't get her way and accuse multiple members of harassment with her document?

>> No.74244159

>>74244067
HOLY KEK, I KNEEL.

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74244221

>>74244067
what the fuck

>> No.74244235

>>74243212
But it isn't their copyright, they literally said so. You're just pretending that it is because you're a schizophrenic

>> No.74244339

>>74244067
I can't remember the last time I saw someone get so thoroughly destroyed in such a professional way

>> No.74244399

>>74242907
Every ex-Niji is still being paid by Nijisanji? Pretty extreme claim to make. Usually when everyone that has insider information is on one person's side and every retard that doesn't know what goes on behind the scenes go another, you go with the people that have the information

>> No.74244583

>>74244155
Sure. Remind me when she did despite her not getting her way? Cuz last I checked Nijisanji made everything public.

>> No.74244603

>>74244235
We saw the internal DMs from her manager responding to the video.

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>>74244067

>> No.74244822

>>74242987
Read the document.
>Niji bad, Holo good. I will suck Holo's cock for the next 3 paragraphs
>Here's my rrat. Want evidence? Here's more rrats
>Here's every controversy anyone in Nijisanji ever had. I will now give a rrat explaining how it's all management's fault
>Muh numbers

The amount of grammar errors, spelling mistakes and numberfagging is enough proof it's entirely written by an ESL faggot. Keep trying

>> No.74244896

>>74244067
HAHAH

GET DESTROYED MILLIE

>> No.74244915

>>74240965
It would have even been better if they rushed it MORE and just released like a two line "Selen Tatsuki is terminated effective immediately . There will be no graduation stream, all merch will be pulled from the store." statement with no further details.
That would have spawned a ton of rrats and speculation for like a week but certainly nobody would still be talking about it.

>> No.74244964

>>74244067
BASED

>> No.74244972

>>74244583
Because she didn't need to make her document public since retards already believed her and the document would make everyone realize she was clearly exaggerating? Her lawyer had to tard wrangle her to not post the document online

>> No.74245057

>>74244603
Yeah,they said they need permission to use the graduated livers. Why would the manager need to get permission from the graduated livers? Because Nijisanji doesn't solely own the rights to the character.

>> No.74245083

>>74242010
Yeah i feel bad for the billionaires too, how can we as a normal person help him with the EN market and makes him richer? China alone is not enough I think.

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>>74244972
So you're telling me one evil fat bpd menhera whore managed to outmaneuver a 2 billion dollar company by... doing nothing?

Why are you against her again?

>> No.74245188

>>74245057
>Because Nijisanji doesn't solely own the rights to the character.
They absolutely do, though. The human behind the character has zero rights, and unwritten industry norms are the only thing keeping them from even recasting characters. That's why it's baffling.

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>>74245057
>Because Nijisanji doesn't solely own the rights to the character.
You remember we saw the contract, right?

>> No.74245507

>>74244067
Anon my sides!

>> No.74245562

>>74245231
Yeah, the contract where it says that agreements exist where members get rights to the character AND that a member can't use other members without their permission

>> No.74245595

>>74240965
They didn't rush it. They'd already gotten away with it once. Zaion was the downfall of nijiEN. When they got away with their slanderous termination notice of her they believed it was okay to do one for selen. It's like some movie where the hero does a million things 100 years in the past so the villain will fail in the future.

>> No.74245741

>>74245182
She didn't out maneuver anyone, Holofags and drama queens did by maintaining the narrative that all rumours are true and that anyone who questioned Doki was an evil person who'd rather she be dead. You can see it pretty clearly when other corporation's big yabs are swept under the rug while Mysta's concert joke are turned into "gargantuan yabs"

>> No.74246078

>>74245741
We already saw what happened with Zaion, who DIDN'T "outmaneuver" AC. You're just coping that the same trick didn't work twice.
>>74245562
No, the contract that said that specifically party B can't use any third party rights without the third party rights holder's permission. For shit like collabs with elira dressed as selen's favorite sanrio character, for example.

>> No.74246276

>>74246078
>Contract says they need permission from third parties to use some rights
>Manager DMs say they need permission from third parties to use some rights
>Official notice says the rights belong to third parties
>"Durr they meant members don't own the IP to games they play"

So you retards are delusional

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>>74244067

>> No.74246411

>>74246276
Sister... we saw the contract. All of the IP restrictions only applied to party B. There wasn't a single point in that entire multi-page contract where party A was restricted from anything.

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>>74244067

>> No.74246528

>>74246411
>There wasn't a single point in that entire multi-page contract where party A was restricted from anything.
>"Third party that has given us license to use"

So you don't understand English, got it

>> No.74246749

>>74246528
Read the whole statement, sister. The whole thing that specifically says "Party B may not..."

>> No.74246750

>>74246078
Zaion? The one who talked about liking little boys on stream? The one who made multiple comments about rape on a stream, one that boiled down "I can see where rapists are coming from". That Zaion who was so much of a yab that the majority of Holofags and Niji antis couldn't possibly use her to start some kind of big campaign without arguing that she didn't deserve to be fired just for that?

>> No.74246888

Just assume anyone still left in niji is negroes: never fucking relax, cuz the only thing on their minds is how to fuck you over.

>> No.74246949

>>74244067
Behold, the single most based poster to ever grace this board. Anon-sensei, I kneel.

>> No.74247054

>>74245562
Wait, are you the same retard time looping this argument from what, a week or two ago? You spent like most of a day just impotently parroting the same sperged head canon over and over until the thread died, never forming a sensible argument. Why the fuck are you here again?

>> No.74247162

>>74246750
No, Zaion, the girl who refused to deal with their bullshit management fuckery and corporate brainwashing and got the boot for refusing to comply with company hierarchy by sidestepping her direct managers, who then got a list of exaggerated charges to prevent her from ever finding work in the future.

The zaion who made tamer jokes about fictional characters than regular members like vox, enna, hex, or kyo.

>> No.74247166

>>74247054
doxxsite being down is going to turn this board into even more of a shithole

>> No.74247230

>>74246749
>In the contract, Anycolor has no restrictions
>Uh actually, I meant in the contract, Party B can't restrict Anycolor

Except the contract says Nijisanji has to calculate the money, pay members on time, pay for trips to Japan and other shit. It also mentions agreements taking place which give rights to Party B. If they say so in private, in public and it's written in law, it's true

>> No.74247282

>>74246750
Least obvious Nijisister.

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>>74247162
Nice rrat that she herself admitted to being wrong. Not a single person in Nijisanji said anything close to "I can see where the rapist is coming from". Any proof of these "jokes"?

>> No.74247364

>>74247230
Sister those statements aren't contradictory.

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>>74247331
holy kek. You're STILL using that image to label her as a pedophile and rapist when the person who accused her explicitly apologized and took his words back?

>> No.74247436

>>74246750
You lost, sister, despite everything you people did to Sayu. And now your doxxsite is gone too. Seethe forever.

>> No.74247498

>>74247418
When the fuck did I call her a pedophile or a rapist? I'm saying she got fired for making herself seem like one and she agrees

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Her cowardly accuser turned tail the moment legal action was a possibly since his not man enough to attack any of the big supposed pedo streamers :D he of course attacked sayu

>> No.74247767

>>74240965
Their downfall started when they focused more on being right than fun.

>> No.74247782

>>74242010
>noo you can't say anything good about your new company this is slandering nijisanji!!!
do sisters really?

>> No.74247833

>>74247682
You mean that no other big EN Vtubers admitted to liking little boys on stream and he only retaliated after Sayu attacked him after he was doxxed? Zaion who ended up apologizing for making his situation about her and called herself a menhera?

Kek Sayufags are delusional

>> No.74247915

>>74247833
Yeah, they like little girls instead, which is the objectively superior taste.

>> No.74248379

>>74247833
Sister... Are you serious?
In holoEN, half the girls are admitted lolicons, including Gura. Outside of holo, we got people like Henya. In NijiEN, Elira's made tons of shota jokes. Vox had an entire line of ASMR streams themed on glorifying and fantasizing rape. Hex just made a "joke" about desecrating someone's ashes. Enna makes rape jokes all the time. NijiEN even had a whole fucking subgroup called NijiCancelled where they talked about necrophilia and murder. Yet somehow, only Zaion was ever punished for a joke like this, despite it always being a running gag for how much she liked shotas due to them being OP in Genshin? They fucking hired her KNOWING it was her thing.

>> No.74248394

>>74247498
AHAHAHAHA! AHAAAAAHAHAHAAQAAAA!!! YOU LOOOOOST! YOU LOOOOOOOOST HAHAHAHAHAAAA!

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>>74244067
murdered lmao

>> No.74248506

>>74248379
Enna never said anything close to "No wonder she got raped".Answer this question. What big EN Vtuber ever muttered the words "I'm into little boys" and didn't catch shit for it?

>> No.74248891

>>74248506
Sister...
Fine, I didn't want to invoke this, but sure. You want to talk about "implications" due to bad wording? Lemme bring up one of the big ones.

>Drunk Enna shares CP with Ethyria in their discord chat:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv-7Jzz6mos&t=8869s
>Enna: want to see a picture of my favorite child when I worked with them in Japan?
>Enna: I like children, yeah they are cute
>The rest says positive random stuff while Enna is looking for the picture. But once she post it in their discord chat:
>Enna: HAHAHAHA THIS ONE
>Enna: don't... (likely as in don't describe it)
>Reimu: OH MY GOD!
>Nina: Oh God!
>Millie: This will get you cancelled Babu. I think you should delete it.
>Reimu: yeah
>Enna: It is so cute tho
>Reimu and Millei: no it is not
>Enna:It is cute, he is so cute. It is my favorite kid.
>Nina: Oh my God!
>Enna: hahahaha
>Reimu: Oh right, that was something! Jesus Can we move on the next topic?
>Nina: YEAH, YEAH, YEAH...
>Enna: Wait I have a really cute one. WAIT Looking for it

For the record, I don't believe Enna is a pedophile, but this was way, way fucking worse than answering chat that "I prefer little boys to mommies" after being asked why she's not playing Yelan.

>> No.74248977

Making a light-hearted joke out of pedophilia has been a long-standing thing in weeb/otaku culture, particularly on this very site. One of last year's biggest viral hit songs in these circles was all about that kind of humor. It's fine to not be a fan of that, but anyone who takes someone using/enjoying that humor and uses it as grounds to accuse them of being a genuine pedophile who wants to sexually abuse real world children is the scum of the fucking earth, full stop.

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>>74248506
Enna has literal CP in her phone, her genmates were horrified when she showed them pictures of her favorite kid. I can't believe you faggots get so outraged over fictional characters but then don't even react to a woman admitting to keeping weird pictures of real children in her phone, children she was supposed to be taking care of.

>> No.74249167

>>74244067
This better be in the video, Parrot.

>> No.74249371

>>74249167

i'm pretty sure parrot just want to finish his holofest video at this point but the drama sisters won't let him

>> No.74249666

Instead of having 10 threads about the 'what if' fanfictons you love writing about Nijisanji, why not make a general?

>> No.74249705

>>74242657
I feel this is closet we will ever get to Gura's thoughts on the whole matter.

>> No.74249896

>>74249666
Sisters are refugees now. They don't know about generals yet and for the love of god don't tell them. I was wondering why mine was so peaceful lately despite the drama.

>> No.74249943

>>74248891
So Enna is Aoi Yuuki, big deal.

>> No.74249970

>>74240965
I'd say it started with Zaion. They thought they can successfully repeat the same with Selen.

>> No.74250039

>>74249943
Cool. Where's her termination notice, then? You just claimed Zaion's was due to the little boys joke and all of her others. What about Enna's terrifying use of children that she never clarified, actually pissing off the twitter fans with a racist joke, actually pissing off the asians with her family trashing, and encouraging Selen to murder her grandfather with a golf cart?

>> No.74250121

>>74248891
So she said nothing close to "I'm a pedophile" and the only evidence you have is a delusion of her having CP on her phone? Ironic that Sayufags get so upset when someone calls her a pedo as they do it to somebody else with no evidence

>> No.74250174

>>74242010
You really nailed the shitty English with this bait

>> No.74250237
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>>74250121
>Ironic that Sayufags get so upset when someone calls her a pedo as they do it to somebody else with no evidence
sister that's literally the point. Here's a secret. They don't care about Hex's grandpa's ashes or that goldfish either. It's complete hypocrisy that Zaion got so much shit for jokes and out of context quotes that were tamer than the rest of her branch.

>> No.74250259

>>74249896
So you're telling me that
>OP
>niji number threads
>indie vtuber drama threads that become nijisanji anti threads
>>74218042
>>74209858
>>74204664
>>74226643
>>74224420
and countless other useless threads that exist to be a discord for redditors or depressed nousagi or whoever are all made by sisters? Do sisters also make your generals? Are you a sister? Am I a sister?

>> No.74250361

>>74250237
Are you acting like she's not actually a shotacon which is why she said "I'm into little boys"? That wasn't a joke, she just meant anime little boys. Which isn't better to the normie sphere compared to any other edgy jokes clearly made as just jokes

>> No.74250480

>>74242010
I don’t understand. Do people pretend to fall for such obvious bait on purpose just because they’re drama hungry or are you all actual retards? I honestly can’t tell anymore. I have no more faith in the IQ of this board.

>> No.74250555

>>74250480
We have been raided by facebook "people" since February

>> No.74250633

>>74250555
Who the fuck is using Facebook for vtubing? I thought it was all boomers there.

>> No.74250727

I think core problem is the arrogance. In a vacuum despite selen being loved I think things would of blown over.

Core issue is Nijisanji knew all the prominent rrats and inspite of that every action they took only reinforced the rrats to turn them into fact.

All they had to do is tactically push back on rrats to introduce doubt. Kurosanji narrative is literally a house of cards build on a dozen rrats. The slightest pushback would collapse majority of the narrative. At least during first few months.

But they were so arrogant they never even bothered. Reason the anti niji narrative is so strong directly due to niji propping it up.

>> No.74250734

>>74240965
The downfall started because they did not build AnyColor to last. It was made to make large returns for little re-investment, and it did this for a time. But when you create something with no long-term horizon, out of empty promises and garbage materials, it eventually falls apart. Good things take real investment and continued commitment to maintain. Riku just wanted to make money and coast off being a cool rich-guy to his subjects, and he succeeded in that. Now the boat-ride is over tho.

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>>74250259
unironically yes.

>> No.74251309

>>74250633
facebook is the main platform for discussion on SEA countries

>> No.74251406
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We're witnessing Nijisisters shitting all over the catalog as they expire from doxxsite withdrawal.

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>>74243189

>> No.74251627

>>74251406
Wasn't the doxxsite not even a real forum and just the comment section of some fag article?

>> No.74251669

>>74250978
/vt/ was shit before Nyfco went down. I feel like I'm talking to bots whenever I mention the quality of this board. Everything is sisters even when it's anti-niji or indie drama. Literally how? Did sisters also spam orange woman in 2020 before NijiEN even exist? is 4chan a primarily female website?

>> No.74251766

>>74251669
Nigga you can't say that things got 10x worse the moment the site went down. there were like 8 FWMC bait threads posted within an hour.

>> No.74251780

>>74251669
this is the least 4chan board, or at least a close tie with /v/ aka /twitter screencaps/

>> No.74251928

>>74240965
you got it all wrong anon, they rush the graduating streamers in purpose to make them sign all their retarded rules and demands without having time to read it, because they know its bad

>> No.74252028
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>>74251627
Yes. It was simply a site with a bunch of articles dedicated to doxxing and showing private accounts of vtubers. The comments sections were entirely unhinged and no real "discussion" ever lasted more than 10 replies. Their "general discussion channel" was the Nina Kosaka page because they hated her so much on debut for collabing with Luxiem that they just all gravitated there for over 500 thousand posts. I think last I checked it was at like 5300 pages, but I'm sure by the time it closed it was more like 6k minimum.

>> No.74252073

>>74242092
Yeah they just dragged their feet getting perms and completely stonewalled her until the day before.

>> No.74252090

>>74240965
You think they didn't talk it out with her behind the scenes? Did you read the notice? They were bending over backwards for this bitch, letting her get away with so much shit. Ask yourself why they "rushed" to terminate her (the best performing female). If you're the most subscribed female in the branch, and you still get shitcanned, that says more about you than the company.

>> No.74252164

>>74252028
over 5700 pages last i saw
i didn't know they hated nina for luxiem collabing though
isn't mixed collabs the whole point of niji? why were they mad at her specifically? kek

>> No.74252186

>>74247782
You better hope it comes back, we got nothing better to do right now incels

>> No.74252240

>>74252164
No, they used Nina's page as their HUB
Most of the pages after Selen's termination was pure Nijiseethe btw

>> No.74252257

>>74251669
>is 4chan a primarily female website?
He knows too much

>> No.74252261
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74252261

>>74252164
Because there was a time early on where Nina was basically the 6th member of Luxiem. Nina loves to collab with Niji the same way Selen collabed outside of it, and according to the sisters, she got a bit too chummy with the boys since she was always hanging around them.

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74252335

>>74240965
all for numbers this grim

>> No.74252345

>>74252261
jesus christ female unicorns are scary

>> No.74252385
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74252385

>>74252164
>>74252261(me)
oh I misunderstood, no. Nina's dox page was literally their general channel. All of the doxxsite screencaps you find? Every single one was in the comments section of Nina's page. They never actually talked about her much after the first thousand or something and kept using it long after she graduated from Niji

>> No.74252392

>>74242010
I think the world would be a better place if you weren't in it.

>> No.74252422

>>74251766
I want you to take a step back and maybe hit the side of your head to help jog your memory. FWMC got bait threads about schizos hating their move to Japan before the site went down. Right now they're schizoing out about their membership.

>> No.74252448

>>74252335
Left out Elira's to fit your narrative

>> No.74252452

>>74252385
no i was just wondering why nina's page specifically
i know they harassed her but i didn't know why

>> No.74252575

>>74252452
Yeah, Nina collabed a LOT with the boys. Several times a week she'd drop in their streams or they'd pop into hers. On top of that, she had a stint where she hopped around globally trying to meet as many NijiEN members as she could, which included all of Luxiem, so obviously the sisters were furious that she met all of the boys in person.

>> No.74252578

>>74252452
There were proposals to move the genpage to Selen, but it was decided it was more pleasant to look at Nina's face than Selen's

>> No.74252613

>>74252261
wasn't there some shit about her sleeping with some of the guys in an offcollab or shit like that?

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They also had recruitment posts for their raid Discord on the doxxsite.

>> No.74252676

>>74240965
We wish to inform you that as of the 5th of Farbruary 2024, Selen Tatsuki will no longer be affiliated with NijisanjiEN. This decision has been made mutually and with respect for the future endeavors of both parties.

We extend our deepest gratitude to Selen Tatsuki for her contributions, particularly as a part of Obsydia and wish her success in her future endeavors. We also thank our fans for their continued support.

It would've been this easy if only Niji had any resemblance of professionalism.

>> No.74252682

>>74252422
Yeah man I'm sure the ruffians are posting doxx info about their own oshi

>> No.74252699

>>74252345
Are male unicorns/gachiokis any less scary? Assuming you aren't one, do you really feel great about them following your oshis?

>> No.74252812

>>74252699
i don't like unicorns or schizo gachis in general, but i don't think they're quite as extreme as nijifujos

>> No.74252833

>>74252682
So you're pretending that homegrown /vt/ anons aren't obsessed with posting dox? Don't forget Marineschizo too quickly now.

>> No.74252909

>>74252676
It wasn't mutual though. It was a termination. She could easily tweet, "NO I WAS FIRED HAHA". Maybe you think if they tweeted it was mutual she'd just go with it, no problemo, 100% risk free?

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>>74252448
one talent balancing a general decline in viewership pagpag brain

>> No.74253172

>>74252833
You don't understand. Nothing is the fault of /vt/rannies, it's all sisters just making them look bad. Threads doxxing Nijisanji members are just false flaggers obviously

>> No.74253273

>>74252909
We wish to inform you that, effective the 5th of February, the contract with Selen Tatsuki has been terminated due to a breach of our internal company policies. This decision was made after careful consideration and in accordance with our commitment to maintaining the highest standards for our community and stakeholders.

We express our gratitude to Selen Tatsuki for her contributions during her tenure with NijisanjiEN, particularly as a part of the "Obsydia" group. We acknowledge her efforts and impact and wish her the best in her future endeavors.
So something like this.

>> No.74253387

>>74242010
>OH NO NOT THE BORN BILLIONAIRE!
People like you are fucking retarded.
Any and all Billionaires are complete pieces of scum who would shot you and your family in the head if it got them a dollar and could get away with it. They are terrible people who just want everyone else to suffer because they want bigger number for no real reason.

>> No.74253390

>>74253273
>She proceeds to post her document online kick-starting the drama anyways

It's so funny seeing retards online LARP like they could have done better

>> No.74253524

>>74253273
Yeah, honestly this might have played better than what we got. I see that they were trying to be as transparent as they could with the long notice, but it just didn't work. I don't think any formation of words would have prevented the outrage. If they made it vague, people would have demanded an explanation.

>> No.74253531

>>74252613
>wasn't there some shit about her sleeping with some of the guys in an offcollab or shit like that?
It probably had as much credibility as Uki fucking pomu and finana in that hotel room. The far better rrats were ones like that schizo who traced the vacation photos from Reimu's trip to be the same ones Vox posted pictures of in his area to imply that they were dating and fucking, which at this point is hard to deny after the Raz stuff.

That said, I think it's funny to believe that while uki did not fuck pomu or finana, pomu totally fucked finana.

>> No.74253536

>>74244155
You mean the document that was specifically meant to be private Lawyer to Lawyer confidentiality and was revealed by Elira and co, not Selen?

>> No.74253633

>>74252699
Absolutely not. If you can believe it, the guys on nyfco are worse than the girls. They're like the girls but with teeth and instead seethe endlessly about a picture someone who doesn't even do GFE like Mumei might've posted to her private facebook about a boyfriend in like 2010, calling her a lying whore and anti-ing her streams and tweets.

>> No.74253685

>>74253390
She wouldn't have gotten nowhere near as much support as she got after Niji released a multi-page smear attempt document for no reason. It would be much less clear who's the bad guy so to speak. It would absolutely not blow up into Niji's face if they behaved professionally instead of behaving like petulant little children.

>> No.74253735

>>74253536
I can't speak to what specifically was on the document that was allegedly revealed (no one outside of the involved parties can). But I do know if you accuse someone, that person being accused has the right to know about the details of the accusation. You don't just learn you are being accused, show up to court, learn about it then, and then start desperately scrambling for a defense.

>> No.74253792

>>74253273
This would've been fine but understandable. Maybe if they wanted to twist the knife they could've explicitly stated it was due to encouraging piracy of their IP and people might even be understanding of their point of view to fire, though obviously the public itself wouldn't Zaion her without more niji social engineering. I'm really fucking glad they're that stupid though because Doki's a gem and it's fantastic to see what she's capable of without that shithole holding her back.
>>74253390
Yeah, I'm sure she'll post that document any day now despite her repeatedly claiming that she wouldn't, and that it goes against her entire history of not doing shit like that.

>> No.74253804

>>74240965
When you don't even give communication a chance, it is a sign of a black company.

>> No.74253848

>>74240965
minimal damage and a lot more cash from the graduation donos.
the problem about capitalism is that they are human and human's are stupid.

>> No.74253857

>>74253735
She didn't accuse them directly, though. Even in Niji's termination they stated that she blamed management for their bullying and harassment, not the organs themselves.

>> No.74253874

>>74240965
I am so tired of hearing about this nigger and his black(ed) company. I swear to god people here are more engaged in the developments of this company than the three dissociated retards they can still count as fans in their sad little generals. Celebrate the next yab, sure, but do we need 100 threads chronicling every time their stock drops 0.01% or the CEO shits himself in public when that's a daily occurrence at this point? I think more of the threads on this board are about niggersanji than about vtubers people actually fucking like and that is, in itself, retardation at its finest.

>> No.74253893

>>74253792
>I will release the document that me and my lawyer have prepared with more evidence and more statements

She surely never even considered posting the document online

>> No.74253901

>>74253633
While we're at it, lets establish that nyfco =/= niji. There are pages for hololive on there too. I've seen the gura page and its genuine mental illness, although its admittedly one extreme parasocial fan on there overshadowing the rest.

>> No.74254045

>>74253874
You want them to stop talking about him but want to celebrate the yabs? Don't you see how that's an endless cycle?

>> No.74254056

>>74253857
But she did accuse them at all so they should know in case they have to show up in court considering she got lawyers involved. Especially since she apparently threatened everyone with legal action

>> No.74254589

>>74253893
She did. It was literally that twitter post that she even bothered to translate to japanese. That was the "document" she prepared with her lawyer.
She's not going to share her fucking journal.

>> No.74254603

>>74253524
I don't think they were trying to be transparent. They were clearly trying to smear her character. Which was a terrible PR move and it backfired spectacularly. Whoever is in charge of PR over there should be fired, probably with the rest of the department, and people who can actually do that job should be hired

>> No.74254663

>>74253901
shhh don't go against the narrative, male fans have NEVER doxxed ANYONE, nor did they put the dox behind a paywall and make money off it

>> No.74254778

>>74253901
Ah, it must be that weirdo who bought membership specifically to make a spectacle out of unsubbing.

>> No.74254917

>>74253901
True, not all nyfco schizos are Niji, and not all sisters use nyfco, but there are an overwhelming amount of NijiEN supporters who use that site to specifically organize hate campaigns against both fans and actual vtubers there.
>>74254663
Eh? Wait, are you seriously comparing a guy gathering prior work history into a rags to riches story celebrating someone's achievements to people who publish fucking addresses and their CURRENT personal accounts for people to harass them with? You can't be this stupid, right?

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>>74242867
This desu, classic rugpull when they announced luxiem. I never bothered to watch holoen and when watched nijien members, I knew it was tenfold better. Elira, Selen, those were actually fun vtubers to watch, but then as you said, m*les and dickriders (like nina) ruined everything. Holo tribalists laughed at niji fans back then saying how superior holoen was since there is (and never will be) males in EN branch. And after a few years what happened? HolostarsEN was announced which led forced collabs with girls, some collabing with them out of spite like amelia, mori, some avoiding them like a plague - Kiara, Gura. But look where we are now. The vtubing as a whole hobby is in shambles, crawling with normies, sisters, trannies, ewhores with coomerbait live2d avatars. Even the golden standard of vtubing which kickstarted the popularity of it all - hololive, is now mandating and enforcing normie standards like mixed gender collabs, with VCR project and other garbage no sane self respecting fan would never like.
We saw the golden age and now we watch as the entire hobby crumbles away before own very eyes.

>> No.74255073

>>74244067
overall a decent critique but some things were just opinions, like the very first correction could have been a semicolon, the "restrain themselves" part is indeed comprehensible but just worded strangely, don't necessarily need the names for their reincarnations, etc.

>> No.74255132

>>74254917
>defending depressedfaggot
I accept your concession

>> No.74255158

>>74254589
Obviously it wasn't unless she read was able to read the minds of Vox, Ike and Elira, you retard. You think she sent her journal to Niji and not that what she wrote was revised, reformatted and made professional then sent to Niji?

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>>74255158
Believe it or not, but people involved in legal issues tend to have more than one document tied to a case.
>>74255132
Quick question. Do you think Selen's MV was a "needless vanity project"?

>> No.74255400

>>74254992
Are hololive mandated mixed gender collabs though? To my knowledge the most popular hololive girls still have never done that most desicable horrible grotesque act

>> No.74255416

>>74255158
Correct, there was more than one document tied to the case. And Selen's tweet was obviously not the document she was talking about . She didn't send her journal to Niji, whatever document she sent them and they were reading, she was gonna release online like she said

>> No.74255449

>>74253390
Why people keep forgeting that in her own words on her last statement the document was never meant to go public?
She was going to go public with her claims and she did and also according to her she wanted to leave the company

>> No.74255562

>>74249970
This so much. Oh yes, Zaion the one who loves their fans and been there for so long, doing so many events and shit for the company. So stupid to do. Wish more organs could take notes.

>> No.74255590

>>74255400
Check the participants for VCR gta, rust and whatever other shit they have planned for in the future. It all started when hololive started to "become more public" or something along the lines. There's no way it's not forced behind the scenes or no smart holo would collab with males to damage their own reputation. Same with regloss, absolute failure of a gen which was forced to collab with other popular holos in order to boost their popularity in some capacity.

>> No.74255603

>>74254917
What hate campaigns though?
The blocklist? The one where they blocked people they didn't want to hear from, like one should on to curate your twitter?
Or the reentry docs? I don't know if that was hate or just trying to put in another perspective to the whole thing.

>> No.74255784

>>74255603
Antis and haters twisted the purpose of the blocklist. Just a list of those for fans that didn't want to hear hate on the livers. Its like having a blocklist of people who support Trump and shit.

>> No.74255845

Only total niji death will bring any peace, if only cuz the few remaining shitposters will go catatonic for a few days at the inevitable news.

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>>74255603
Sister we saw the documents. They were digging through ancient posts to smear her as some kind of insane menhera. It was directly an attack on her character using complete nonsense because they couldn't find ANYTHING bad about her entire history.

Nobody with a brain would buy the whole "oh it was just a block list not a hit list" when they were not only tracking people's past accounts, but following them to their current ones in the same fucking entry and people got pinned for "called Niji a loser once" or "They might still like Niji but they drew Selen recently so fuck them."
For fuck's sake they doxxed the wrong fucking person in a sad attempt to harass one of the TSB guys.

>> No.74255908

>>74255449
>Why people keep forgeting that in her own words on her last statement the document was never meant to go public?

Because something not being created with the intention of it being public doesn't mean that it wasn't going to be made public. GPS systems weren't created with the intent of the average person having access to them but here we are

>> No.74255946

>>74255590
Sometimes I wonder why the hololive girls don't "filter" fans by intentionally doing male collabs. Its not like they fans are gonna go over to nijisanji. Maybe it would be too risky from a safety perspective?

>> No.74256040

>>74255908
This is the most baffling comparison I've seen from a sister this week.
If Selen says she's not going to make documents public, and then proceeds to not make documents public despite Nijisanji clearly breaking the "blackmail" terms that the sisters are so sure that Selen was sending... why would they expect her to ever make them public, especially since at this late stage all they need is one more tiny push to fuck over the company irreparably? Wasn't she supposed to be some vindictive fat bpd menhera whore?

>> No.74256099

>>74245741
lmao ok cringedred imagine being this much of a revisionist despite literally everyone else seeing it for how it really is

>> No.74256136

>>74255895
You mean the one titled "blocklist" that a dramafag found and twisted it into Nijifags attempting to blacklist people from the community? Also PL shit is extremely common now because the Holohomos decided to use theirs to collab with Doki, even more so in a website entirely centered around finding PLs

>> No.74256156

>>74255895
I think the main evidence found was the twitlonger (which you can still find on wayback machine btw). I can post that if you'd like. It doesn't condemn her but it also puts some context on her history regarding mental illness.
For what its worth I never looked at the blocklist, I had no problem blocking the ones posting 0.25 ms after every Nijisanji official post.

>> No.74256181

>>74242010
you're faggot of a oshi is going to graduate when nijiEN folds and im going to laugh every second of it

>> No.74256203

>>74256181
>you're

>> No.74256257

>>74255286
I don't. What does that have to do with you defending a doxxfaggot? What bogeyman will you assign to me next while avoiding the question?

>> No.74256313

>>74256040
But Selen never said "I never considered making them public or said I was" and did say "I'm releasing the document and evidence later". They expected her to make them public because she threatened to and she threatened to again on her stream. She didn't release them because the narrative and all the rrats would immediately die

>> No.74256365

>>74256136
Sister that makes about as much sense as saying you're publishing someone's address and legal name for "archival" purposes and being surprised when someone mails them a pipe bomb.

>> No.74256452

>>74244067
Teacher-anon completely BTFO Paki-chan deflection, godspeed anon.

>> No.74256479

So, is this anon a real sister or one of the shitposters? They literally behave the exact same, minus a "accidental" self-report or two.

>> No.74256566

>>74255946
I feel like the girls who still don't collab with boys after all this time do so because they personally don't want to more than because they're worried about the backlash. Some of them are just introverts or just would rather hang out with girls when given the choice but others are clearly kinda unicorn-ey themselves in the sense that they're here to be idols and see following specific rules when it comes to public interactions with men to be part of what being an idol is.

>> No.74256637

When is the next investor meeting? I want to prepare for the bloodbath in advance.

>> No.74256679

>>74256365
But the blocklist was supposed to remain in containment until dramafags started giving it attention and spreading it online

>> No.74256683

>>74253893
I think the only time she ever actually considered uploading it was as a direct result of the Black stream, aka a deliberate attempt at slandering her and getting her to react in the "BPD menhera" way all the Nijisisters claim she is
And after she calmed down and talked with her lawyer, she didn't, and hasn't mentioned them since

>> No.74256771

>>74256566
to a reasonable person, it just seems like some of the girls aren't comfortable with dudes and don't have any reason to want to approach them, considering the industry norms. Meanwhile, girls who don't give a shit continue to not give a shit.

to an unreasonable person, any girl who approaches any man for any reason not directly mandated by management upon threat of termination or death is clearly fucking them and by extension, cucking their fans.

>> No.74256799

>>74256683
So she threatened to post the document which is something Nijisanji said she did before

>> No.74256845

>>74256679
Sister it's about as believable being a "blocklist" as the sisters and nijisanji's claim that Selen didn't pay artists.

>> No.74256876

>>74256566
I think the concept of what an idol isn't well known or clearly defined in the west, at least from my perspective. Is being an idol automatically no interaction with males, or is that definition twisted in the hololive fandom? Do real japanese/korean idol girls strictly segregate from males?

>> No.74256957

>>74256876
not only do they do it, it's not just idols.
Japan threw a fucking fit because a weather reporter flew to england to secretly date a tennis player.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7QG9owYEUY

>> No.74256975
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>>74247331
C'mon Kenji, drop the act. (You)re still a maidenless niggerfaggot that needs to bully a defenseless person to feel a speck of self-esteem, sadly you will get neither of both. No maiden and no self steem you niggerfaggot, now an hero yourself it's not too late.

>> No.74256997

>>74256845
Did you actually think the author of that document believed that she could singlehandedly cause the blacklisting of every person in that document including big dramafags like Mutahar through putting their name on a list and telling Doxxsisters to block them?

>> No.74257036

>>74256876
>>74256957
relationships are the big no no, they aren't forbidden from interacting with males at all that would be impossible

>> No.74257126

>>>74247331
As much as I dislike her for being an idiot who got fired so quickly and for being unprofessional, she doesn't deserve to get harassed like that. That's disgusting.

>> No.74257133

>>74244067
ultra based, ESL sisters BTFO

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>>74256997
Kinda, yea.
>pic related, their face when

>> No.74257653

>>74256997
Considering how great the zaion smear went? Yeah, I think they really were that retarded. They were hoping that with enough smearing they could somehow "win back" the popular opinion and were scrambling, just like their beloved company.

>> No.74257983

>>74257653
The intent of the blocklist was to clean up timelines from hate. People took it personally as if it was a list to harass people. I think making the list was a bad idea desu, people should put the work in and block for themselves.

>> No.74258003

>>74244067
Based
>>74255073
It really should not be a semi-colon in this case. Think anon, think.

>> No.74258359

>>74257983
Except a lot of the people on that list weren't spreading hate, they were just supporting Doki. Hell, some people on that list were on there for the specific crime of being her friend, no other offense cited.

>> No.74258736

>>74257983
If they were just doki supporters, then they didn't deserve a summary block. That just proves my point you should decide who needs to be blocked for yourself.

>> No.74258805

>>74244067
Based English professor

>> No.74258978

>>74256313
According to Doki, her lawyer informed Nijisanji that the document would not be made public
The only time she talked about making a document public was during her neopets stream after the black screen video and it sounded more like retaliation for what she thought they made public

>> No.74259036

>>74258359
The idea was that people who support Doki and interacting with their Twitter who feed drama shit into their algorithm. I remember some people there were labeled as "maybe block them" while some had long summaries on why the doxxsisters should block them

>> No.74259109

>>74256799
The only threat that she made was going public with her claims and she did go public after the termination notice.

>> No.74259197

>>74241279
She probably tried
Superiors ignoring constructive complaints right up until you quit and they realize they need you is a classic tale

>> No.74259333

IT started when they shitcanned with the Zaion shitlist, while tons of people bought that she fucked up in many ways that was a brutal and shitty way to air the laundry. Some of the points being bullshit that other livers did as well didn't help. From then on they were under such scrutiny that all the shit came to light and the next time they tried the same shit it fucked them over.
If they had been more professional since the start none of that would have happened to them.

>> No.74259504

>>74259109
Yeah but Elira did say she was worried because the document alluded to her address and Doki did threaten to post it online so it just makes more sense that she said she'd make her claims through the document originally and decided to post termination

>> No.74259977

>>74259504
According to Doki's last statement Nijisanji was told by her lawyer that the document would not be released to the public (Niji denied releasing her medical record but they did not denied this)
The only time she talked about making it public was after the black screen video

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>>74256957
>not just idols
Picrel. When you get Japanese unicorns for subway signs, moving anime girls never had a chance.

>> No.74261283

>>74260908
kek someone needs to save Nippon

>> No.74261493

>>74259333
The funny thing is that the main reason why they thought it was a good idea to do Selen's termination like they did is because a lot of people reacted positively to Zaion's termination letter at first- people were glad that they actually explained their whole case in contrast to Rushia's termination letter which had as little detail as possible. So a year later when it's time to can Selen they do the same thing as if they're completely unaware that their reputation has been trashed by their own hands and this time they were firing someone much more established and popular, and people even said that Mel's minimal-detail termination letter was a much better way to handle it in comparison. Same goes for the black box stream- just a complete lack of self-awareness regarding how they're seen and how they would be seen by doing what they did.

>> No.74261649

>>74260908
holy fucking kek

>> No.74262819

>>74260908
>Scientists baffled by steadily decreasing Japanese birthrates

>> No.74263015

>>74242572
>wait a couple days
this is bait ill bite , a couple days is a long time for content creators
Releasing a cover on Christmas eve or the new years are very different things

>> No.74263632

>>74260908
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa someone do something!!!

>> No.74263757

>>74256876
>Do real japanese/korean idol girls strictly segregate from males?
They try to separate them at all costs yeah. They obviously can't 100% do that but they try very hard.

>> No.74263817

I've been gone for like a month. Is Niji not dead yet? I remember everyone saying it would be dead in like a week.

>> No.74263915

>>74263817
It's a walking corpse. Wait until June for TND

>> No.74264275

>>74242010
>I feel bad for Riku, he wanted to open a market for EN audience
By rebranding the india branch for 50 cents?

>> No.74264640

>>74242010
I only feel bad for any of the powerless EN staff who genuinely cared and wanted to open doors in the EN market only to get crushed by incompetent managers and menhera talents. Riku will survive, and so will NijiJP.

>> No.74266700

>>74252164
For getting too close to their boy toys of course

>> No.74267438

>>74250039
>encouraging Selen to murder her grandfather with a golf cart
Jesus fucking christ, did she actually? Man, the more i learn about Enna, the more gross she seems

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>>74252448
1.3k lol
also INDOCHADS WE CANNOT STOP WINNING

>> No.74267952

>>74267438
https://youtu.be/RP1wIS9aSVc?t=2396
It's clearly a joke, but it was said even more straight than anything Zaion ever said.
Though looking back, I just realized that she said "I have a good relationship with my family members... sometimes..." Poor Doki.

>> No.74268273

>>74267893
>221/50 finanas
How will dookie ever recover

>> No.74270239

>>74252186
You are stuck here forever, like the rest of us, now show titters.

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>>74252186
Kek, nice to meet you, roomie. Hope you get used to straight porn quickly or you're going to not enjoy your stay.

>> No.74272431

>>74267893
that's with enna raid. without it she's a 3view

>> No.74272543

>>74242572
go scissor each other in your private discord nijinigger

>> No.74272753

>>74244067
LOOOL

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>>74244067
Is there a good AI software that does this, so I can post my ESL ramblings without being notice?

>> No.74273786

>>74242010
You must be the same person who wrote those 3 pages termination notice

>> No.74273945

>>74267952
I'll have one triple deluxe nothingburger to go please.

>> No.74273970

>>74267893
>Under Iofi, Hololive's lowest CCV talent
Oh no no no... will they go under the Stars numbers too? Would be funny if they somehow managed to get below Uyu's numbers which is the lowest in the entire HoloPro.

>> No.74274935

>>74241543
That's explain the termination notice, but not the black stream. That was premeditated, proving they are less a company than they are a cult.

>> No.74275705

>>74263915
Wait for the month of probable Luxiem 3D debuts for Niji to die? What corner of your asshole did you pull that from?

>> No.74275790

>>74267893
Yeah lets ignore the 3 other POVs streaming at the same time. If we do that WE CANT STOP WINNINGGGGGG

>> No.74276028

>>74242010
Nah I feel bad for the staff and other talents. Riku can go fuck himself and be booted out by shareholders on the next Quarter meeting.

>> No.74276101

>>74242010
Not reading this, but is this a funny joke where it segues into first person at some point?

>> No.74276418

Dan dan Tazumi san...

>> No.74277411

>>74242907
>She's collabed with nearly all of the top dogs, too.
The homos and the tranny aren’t top dogs, sister.

>> No.74277962

>>74244067
kek

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>>74275790
Nijicopes are getting desperate

>> No.74278195

>>74242010
Can't you all shit up TVA or something instead of here?

>> No.74278195,1 [INTERNAL] 

kek

>> No.74279189

>>74278088
Do you not get my point? You were comparing Elira's stream number to that HoloID's, while ignoring Claude, Vanta, and Millie's POVs. If you want an accurate comparison, you'd add up all 4 POVs. But no, you have an autistic fixation on BIGGEST NUMBER WINS LOL.

>> No.74279611

>>74279189
>adding pov numbers
This is on the nijicope list

>> No.74281151

>>74261493
The whole "more detials is better" has always been cope from nijisisters, there is a reason you don't air your dirty laundry to the general public and even back then people were shitting on nijisanji for the zaion termination list, they just got drowned out by the nijisisters

>> No.74281250

>>74281151
It's fucking insanity is what it is. It's torching someone's career after already brutally beating them down. The only reasoning I could possibly see for it is to scare the shit out of your remaining talents to keep them in line.

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>>74279189
>Add up all 4 POVs
Niji thriving

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>>74279189
>adding up all pov numbers
sister... you know it's common to watch multiple at once for the full picture?
Fuck it, I'm feeling mean today. Let's add up those povs then. We'll even use the same game

>> No.74282206

>>74244067
KEK

>> No.74282269

>>74240965
Eh, they got comfortable and thinks western people can be bullied into submission the same way they keep their japanese slaves.

>> No.74282310

>>74241937
no fuck all that. explain it with estus.

>> No.74282724

>>74272863
I second that gentleman

>> No.74282796

>>74240965
>NijiEN's downfall started
I would have to say Millie's infamous discord tab-over was the start of the mental warfare, but realistically the lack of decent management seems to have been a thing since Ethyria time, if not far earlier when KR, ID, and IN all seemed to be left to die in the wilderness of vtubing early ages

>> No.74282908

>>74240965
Selen did something that's unforgivable in NijiEN's eyes, acting on her own (releasing the MV, having a lawyer ready, etc.). For that reason, management saw her as evil, and felt themselves justified in shaming her like they did to Zaion before.

>> No.74283453

>>74279189
1. Then it’s only fair to add all the other POVs on the Holo side, right?
2. You are actively pointing out the need for 4 Niji POVs combined to outdo 1 Holo POV numerically.

>> No.74285392

>>74253536
it actually wasn't. Dokibird herself stated that Elira and co lied about having seen those documents so everything they said pertaining to it's contents is a lie including the names allegedly contained in it

the biggest scum move is they framed several uninvolved niji to talents being perpetrators of the harassment with the black stream

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>>74279189
INDOCHADS WE CANNOT STOP WINNING

>> No.74286343

Niji decided to tell selen "You can't quit because your fired" and thought it was a good idea. All i can figure is if she quit that have to pay her something which they wouldn't have to if she was fired because that is the only logical reason for firing her while she is trying to leave.

>> No.74286476

>>74286343
That would have been a good idea, the but where nijisanji messed up was trying to do it publicly thinking that the court of public opinion would side with them over the talent.
You know, because they are just that dumb

>> No.74286696

>>74242010
Sup, Millie.

>> No.74286916

>>74244067
Based KEK

>> No.74286926

>>74286476
This is what happens when every hire from talent management to legal is a minimum wage college graduate

>> No.74286967

>>74286055
holy grim, but also I like the ID girls so more power to them.

>> No.74287451

>>74286343
The talents acting as managers can terminate people as much as they want and management would still think they were doing a good job
but if too many people start quitting it would look bad for the de facto managers
A lot of people were already quitting, other EN talents quit before even debuting because they saw how bad things were.
Elira was losing control and lashed out, it worked with Zaion so she thought it would work here too and to a certain extent it did, she rightly knows a large segment of the nijisanji fandom are vicious bullies like her and would attack on command
but like all bullies they are cowards and ran away when they got more pushback than they expected
they still pathetically try to attack people any chance they get

>> No.74290558

>>74241279
Sure, that makes sense

>> No.74290686

>>74242010
Taking down the doxxsite was a mistake.

>> No.74290840

>>74244067
Jesus Christ I've watched lots of rekt videos but none as brutal as this.

>> No.74290850

Holy shit, when is the doxxsite coming back online? I'll even pay for the hosting if that's what it takes. I wouldn't mind the sisters raid that much if they were at least funny, but they are just retarded. And probably underage. No wonder Vox likes them so much.

>> No.74291046

>>74290850
NIJISEETHE

>> No.74291059

>>74240965
Niji was doomed to fail from the start. Sure a handful of livers did do well, but they chucked a lot more chuubas into the meatgrinder with minimal staff. Zaion and Selen were merely the result of that strategy.

>> No.74291086

>>74279189
> If you want an accurate comparison, you'd add up all 4 POVs.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
oh wait, were you serious?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HOLY SHIT

>> No.74291137

>>74260908
relatable

>> No.74291297

>>74291059
I'd say Pomu, Nina and Mysta's graduations were the inevitable result of Niji not caring for their talents, cheaping on management and focusing their whole strategy on the shotgun approach. Zaion and Selen's terminations and smearing campaigns were just downright malicious.

>> No.74291358

>>74291059
If Nijisanji had Roger Corman's attitude - that they could do some quick and dirty work for them and then bounce - then they wouldn't be nearly as reviled. But they and their fanbase actually have the brain damage to think that their talent should put up with their bullshit for their entire careers. They need to be crushed out of existence.

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