/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>advice from the male collaber who also moved to Japan
What point did you think you were making here?

>>74216756
Other than a short period of streaming irregularity because of the move, it's the same ol' reliable Bae.

>>74216756
Allow me to correct your statement slightly for accuracy.
>advice from the en member who is abandoning en after moving to japan

>>74216584
>random clip
>homocollaber who moved to japan
Go kys sister

>>74216584
> Focus on the jp market fuwamoco leave en behind

>>74216584
I don't think the runt of her gen is in any position to be giving advice to the newbies that are about to catch up with her

>Sisters are attacking Fuwamoco
>Oh let's retaliate by throwing Bae under the bus
Why are you faggots like this? Also Bae planned her Japan move way ahead so it was a relatively smooth transition. The twins in contrast just jumped in and caused plenty of unforseen complications. Chilling a bit was sound advice because you do need to look at your surroundings from time to time. Anyone who wants FWMC to stay here for a long time would understand the value of prudence.

>>74216584
They've been in the business longer than Bae has.

God, I love Bae so much. She make sisters, numberfags, unikeks and homobeggars seething eternally. She's chaos indeed.

This is what? 5th? 6th? FWMC or FWMC adjacent thread of the day?
And /baubau/ has been slowly turning into the new /HiRyS/ (though I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt that they're just getting visited by tourists)
I haven't watched much of the twins recently, did anything happen that caused whoever behind these threads to have a melty?

>>74219444
Nyfco is dead so nijishitters are ghouling up 4chan instead.

>>74219444
try 8+ if you include /baubau/ raids within the last few hours.

>>74216980
Funny enough kiara tried to do the same thing after seeing the dogs in a 100+ streak. What is it with runts and trying to crab upcoming successful members?

>>74217378
so you're saying almost noone likes her.

>>74216584
qrd?

>>74222254
Admitting your fanbase is composed almost entirely of toxic factions isn't the rwbuttal you think it is.

>>74216756
>anon can't stop thinking about dicks
gsh

>>74216584
I think Bae mean well but bro, the twins have like 10x her experience in this field.

>>74216584
I guess splitting the workload also enables them to do much more. Like one takes care of thumbnails while the other prepares fwmc morning topics or something. Doing everything on your own is always more demanding.

>>74216584
I like how her advice was just "take things one step at a time" when it comes to planning stuff which would have worked wonders for their move since they clearly got over encumbered by trying to do everything in one trip but she got hounded by ruffians in the comments anyways

>>74217300
they've been in the business more time than what Bae has been an adult/teen

>>74219444
>did anything happen that caused whoever behind these threads to have a melty?
The twins made a member stream where they basically said that streams overall would be slowing down AND they would also be focusing in JP streams and this was after they had said moving to Japan wouldn't change anything for their content but now it looks like they'll be fewer streams and the ones we get will mostly be in Japanese.

>>74216584
Is this the current Deadbeat meta or something, deflection? The self-proclaimed daisenpai of HoloEN, Mori Braps actually told this to the doggos more or less, and they had to listen to her, it wasn't simply a manipulated thumbnail image like the OP.

>>74219444
>brush off fan concerns and tell them to fuck off
>there's a lot of threads about it
why would sisters do this

>>74227593
It's all about the opportunities. Unless they're an outlier, they'll have so much more career potential if they commit to the Japanese market.

Just look at Wawa and how she feels tricked/denied. If she committed to continue living/operating in Japan, doing more JP streams, lurking at their studios, making JP branch friends/connections I think she would have been happier with her career trajectory. Still looking up, but I imagine what could have been. She's one of the more powerful dancers, I think that would have been a significant draw for the kind of attention she wants if she could get more performances in.

>>74228885
you say they have more opportunities and then give an example of kiara failing. who has been a success?

>>74232039
Kiara was an example of someone NOT committing. The twins right now are committing and if they give up to appease their "fans" in the short term they will end up as Kiara 2.0. An example of succes might be Mori, which is a pretty boring streamer and has a cringe personality but look at all the opportunities she's had. Has had several albums, a music deal, concerts, the most outfits and accessories out of EN, songs in anime, etc.

>>74227772
Similar to how she told kronii to proceed with holostars despite kronii coming into a compromise with her fanbase.
> 'Do whatever you want' mentality that seems so prevalent for everyone Mori interacts with.
Fauna was supposed to be next but we saw how Mori turned out

>>74232624
>>74234016

>>74234016
Are you seriously blaming Mori for letting other holos decide for themselves?

>>74234597
Yes cause it's a pattern for talents she's close with

>>74235382
Because she lets them be instead of telling them what to do?

>homo collaber
unikeks and nijisisters united to shit on hololive
dark times

>>74235631
She gives retarded advice that keeps on alienating the fanbase of other talents. Bait and switch until the effect blows up on everyone's faces or reduces the amount of money they gain greatly.

>>74235855
And somehow everything is her idea despite her letting them do what they want?

>>74232039
NTA, but depends on what you meant by "success". In his context, expanding towards JP markets give you more opportunities - which is definitely right.
Case in point: Bae has a lot more appearances in Holo official stuffs (main chainnel, HoloMeet, official programs, etc.) compared to when she was still in Aus. You might argue that Bae hasn't been super successful (compared to other HoloEN), but it's more on her sabotaging herself than the lack of opportunities

>>74236151
The EN market are just weebs with no actual cultural might. People with actual sway are other hobbiests with money to spend and roots in western nerd(?) culture aka the ttrpg, warhammer or what have you folks.

>>74236016
She's the daisenpai of holoEN with a career in music, it's not that she let them do what they want but rather her influence and words/advice carries weight that might not apply to the individual circumstances of other en talents.

>>74216584
post the fucking clip

>>74219444
niji sister site died so they're shitposting here

>Kiara tells them to slow down 6 months ago
>everyone shits on her, says she's trying to sabotage them
>Bae tells them to slow down now
>praised as knowledgeable senpai
what's wrong with you people

>>74237535
what does it mean to slow down anyway

>>74236863
And what would that advice be? You're speculating on things based on literally nothing when Occam's razor points to them just doing their own thing.

>>74238792
Kiara meant slow down with their content output.
Dont know about Bae

>>74216836
Who wouldn't abandon en with the attitudes of en fans? Only people that can't for whatever reason like laziness.

>>74239189
Bae said that they should chill out in terms of mentality and take projects or plans one step at a time, doing so will keep their motivation high. In regards to content output, she said that it should be kept as it is

>>74240257
It's so hilarious that in hindsight, this advice was actually thoughtful, their mentality of rushing into Japan without any plans was exactly what got them into the lengthy predicament of finding a housing

>>74240257
Not following baes advice is why they lived in a closet for weeks
Theyre very stupid

>>74216756
Op is a retard