/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>74146012
ask yourself
>did they do something creative while on niji?
why would they start now?

I mean, they were in niji, of course they're terrible

>>74146012
I can think of an ex niji doing interesting things now that they're out of niji, They do a lotta projects. They're holding an art contest with major cash prizes. They got some really interesting content and funny tangents. NO react content. No "ohh niji was terrible" baiting. None of that. they even raised 250k$ for charity too!. I think you'd really like them if you gave them a chance

Sex with cockroach

>>74146012
>proceeds to make react content on twitch
Ngl even fucking xQc had more game time on OW2 than being on Just chatting, react slop that these twitch tubers been doing, pretty embarassing.

>>74146012
>react content on twitch
Seriously who? I don't see Matara or Quinn nor Kuro doing it.

>>74146012

They streamed on Twitch before joining Nijisanji, yes

>>74146012
Once a niji, always a niji.

>>74146012
What's so confusing? Not being able to do react content was fatal.

>>74147384
nice, but it's fake.

>>74147351
Regular thing I see come up is threadwatchers calling Henya a react tuber when she only really does that as mukbang intermission in a gaming stream.

>>74147675
Still stealing content though , 4 full minutes with the video left in the background when she's not even there https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjwqdhQcqzc

>>74146012
once a nijinig always a nijinig

>>74147384
how come his youtube views dont translate over to his streams i dont get it

>>74147675
just because you call them threadwatchers doesn't invalidate the truth

>>74146249

Yeah but she tried to off herself, numerous times, and that's fucking disgusting.

>>74148039
>EAT SPICY NOODLES
Literaly farming algorithm

>>74148039
because vtubing is a sidegig he doesn't care about and the sooner he goes back to where he came from the better

>>74148083
You should show her how it's done

>>74146012
It must be my autism acting up the same way it would when I would see mildly underwhelming acting called "the worst acting ever" in a movie, because I have never really seen VShojo's models as such an egregious downgrade from Nijisanji of all places that it warranted all the circlejerking bitching about them.

>>74148167

I'm not a fuck up so I'd actually die tho

>>74148295
That's the idea yeah

>>74148295
Need proof to believe

>>74146012
but who are you quoting?

>>74148368

But then how would I know if she learned the lesson?

>>74146012
Matara looks perfect, deal!

>>74147749
That's tragic, she's better than this. Hope she snaps out of it.

>>74148497
Yeah, if you're Turkish.

>>74146012
>send a supa!
on twitch?

>vshojo gets a new member
>/vt/ seethes
pottery

>>74146012
I thought quinn didn’t join vshojo?

I don't know about the rest but those really are ugly fucking models

>>74148764
Literally every debut has this shit, why Vshojo retards think they are so special?

>>74147749
Anon she used to spend hours scrolling through fucking reddit reacting to funny meme before she was henya.

>>74146012
>Selen is doing better than ever and much happier now
>Pomu is doing better than ever and much happier now
>Nina is doing better than ever and much happier now
>Sayu is doing better than ever and much happier now
>Mika is doing better than ever and much happier now
Kys sister
Kurosanji is shit

Hololive is bad

>>74148039
>Talks like the most obnoxious wigger imaginable
>Looks like fucking Fred

>>74149320
kek almost choked on my coffee fuck you anon
i forgot about that guy's existence

>>74149307
>ignored Mysta
grimm

>>74149377
Males are trash. Both were in Niji just for fujobait and now can’t make content to save their asses. Kuro got lucky to get in before they realized that.

>>74149444
Kuro being the second male to work for vshojo

>>74148039
…no way this is fucking real, looks like the biggest dramafarm bait immaginable.

>>74146249
Sorry, no suicide baiting fatass dramaniggers grifters allowed

>>74148083
>But she was right on being mistreated and didn’t make a dramafarm about it and move on, how dares she not shit on Niji for 3 months so I can say something bad about her.
Sis desperate to have a point they can’t even write a good bait, here’s some pity, her worse problem right now is too much success as an indie.

>>74149587
It’s been 3 months and you can’t even find something better sis, let it go, you sound like a clown with no more jokes. She proved you can make it without bieng a dramabait, ignored it for 3 montgs, and you are seething you don’t have anything more to attack her. It makes you the dramafaggot and you know it.

>>74149488
Who is the other male

>>74149587
The is the only ex niji who ISN'T grifting off of how much of a "nightmare" niji used to be. Well her and U-San.. probably why that's been the only ex niji collab she's done. If i were her therapist i'd tell her to NEVER interact with those people ever again good or bad. And if i were her PR manager i'd tell her the exact same thing. It's funny how triggered you sisters are about her to this day. Not even mentioning her name and just listing off all the objective things about her sets you off, I mean look at all these retarded insults you spam at her
>fatass projection from fat pagpag browns
>dooki insults cause sisters have literal kindergardener IQs
>the suicide = moral failing shit from inferior third world cultures
I could go on. But really i don't need to. You humiliate yourselves each time you insects mald about her

>>74149829
Zentreya

>>74149829
The popular RRAT on vt is that zentreya is a guy and that is why they use a TTS, Frankly even if zen is a dude he is probably one of the best vtubers vshojo has so who even cares. Neurosama is one of the most popular "female" streamers and she literally isn't real it's all vedal's work

>>74150001
It's not a "RRAT" when his voice leaked about three weeks ago.

>>74150083
Source?

>>74150328
The voices told me

>>74146012
even cyberlife had better models lmao

>>74150083
>>74150328
>three weeks ago
don't you mean 3 years ago? but whatever

>>74150328
https://cyberfile.me/omjY
https://cyberfile.me/omjX
The defenders will claim it's someone else they were playing with but the STT picks up two separate lines that can be heard from the other POV and the supposed other person's voice is mysteriously missing from Zen POV

>>74149931
Thry are malding because the others made it by being ex-niji, she made it alone being Doki and nothing else. Look, this thread is to shit about Vshojo and they have to bring up Doki in pure desperation that someone will tribalfag join them.
If you want to stop hearing about nijidrama, unironically give her some views, it’s all about laughs and happiness, something you badly need.

>>74147749
>stealing content
daily dose gives out react permission, holokek.

>>74150594
That's just Heavenly's mic fucking up you retard

>>74151156
It clearly isn't when you can't hear him in Zen's POV.

>>74146012
>>74147384
>>74148039
>>74148882
just a reminder

>>74151284
It clearly is because that's his laugh

>>74151525
He is not the one saying "it's jesus" and "what in the world". The one saying those things is Zen as indicated by his speech to text.

>>74146012
Quinns model costed more than 15K its hilarious they pick well known artist and riggers and then they upcharge these indie retards

>>74148039
Its a drama video and his niji fanbase doesnt watch streams that why his twitter posts get 20 thousand likes each but he has five hundred viewers

>>74147384
yep hes not making the vshojo cut sorry
wow thats fucking sad

>>74150690
daily dose is stolen content

>>74150594
00:30 Toaster POV/00:33 Zen POV "it's jesus"
00:46 Toaster POV/00:49 Zen POV "what in the world"
The voice is mysteriously missing from Zen POV but everything said by the voice is shown in text, and the Toaster VOD was deleted.

>>74147384
>>74148039
>>74151454
Millie . . . Enna wouldn't approve or make out with you for real.

>>74152134
twitchtracker links to the streams?

>>74150594
OMG. Zen is Heavenly. All those collabs Zen was just playing with theythemself.

>>74152358
Why are you still coping? It's Zen's voice and not heavenly's.

>>74152343
https://twitchtracker.com/eviltoaster/streams/42472140745
https://twitchtracker.com/zentreya/streams/42471815129

>>74152670
eviltoaster vod is still available this way, dunno why anon said it wasn't

>>74153208
No it's not.

>>74153289
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2108079532
liar. lemme guess, it's your voice pretending to be Zen, isn't it?

>>74151632
No lie, I don't watch a ton of Zen, but I have seen a lot of Heavenly lately cause he's been in a bunch of collabs I've seen lately, and that's literally the first person I thought of when I heard it.

>>74153497
That's the vod for the next stream, idiot. The deleted stream was 2 hours 55 minutes long.

>>74153506
He is clearly not at the scene since he can't be heard on Zen's side.

>>74153648
twitchtracker lists deleted streams too, retard, link the correct one then. ALL participants + timestamps, I'm not getting motion sick for your autism's sake.

it baffles me why people always try so hard to defend that tts tranny

>>74153741
I just linked the correct one, retard. Both Zen and Toaster ended their streams at the same time but twitchtracker claims that the VOD for Toasters next stream that started right after (https://twitchtracker.com/eviltoaster/streams/43945934363)) is the VOD for the deleted stream.
You're making yourself look like a complete clown.

>>74146012
It really is kinda funny how vshojo is the nijisanji lifeboat company now.

>>74153999
Both are full of grifters with insufferable fans, it's not surprising at all

>>74146012
And people will eat it up because people will support anything not-niji.

>>74149511
>looks like the biggest dramafarm bait immaginable
I'm guessing you never watched his streams while he was in niji

>>74153927
why are you so mindbroken as to fake "evidence"?

>>74153980
>refuses to link the other participants
>refuses to give timestamps to the supposed "oopsie" on every vod
lol. lmao even.

>>74153927
Come up with some decent evidence then. I don't care what they are irl but that voice is HeavenlyFather's.

>>74154353
I linked all the streams from that day, idiot.
Oh you want a timestamp now, faggot? 5:07:20 foe the Zen VOD.
Keep jerking off to men.

>>74154357
It's not his voice. You can see that Zen said both of those things as they appear as text on his stream.

>>74154684
>still no other collab participant vods
I accept your concession.

>>74154684
you're fighting windmills, vshojokeks are too far gone

>>74154822
They didn't stream that day, homosexual.
Why is the Toaster VOD gone if there's nothing wrong with it? Why did he immediately restart his stream after Zen's voice leaked?

>>74154870
That idiom means fighting an enemy that isn't there.

>>74149444
>now can’t make content to save their asses
how would you know when it’s evident that no one here watches their streams because they’re males?

>>74146012
>the ugliest avatar imaginable
Vast majority of vtubers have no aesthetic sense to speak of and any time they are allowed to control what direction their avatar goes in it ends up looking like complete garbage. In addition, you can tell which ones are normies or not based on what designs they pick

I mean if you can guaranteed to have an audience in vshojo, why do you want to try to begin with?

>>74154909
>They didn't stream that day,
how convenient for you.
>homosexual.
it must suck for you to make you project this hard.
>Why is the Toaster VOD gone
prove it to be gone, ruszki kurva.

>>74155198
>how convenient for you.
Why are you insisting that I'm making all of this up? You can check their twitch trackers yourself but you refuse because you know that I'm right.
>prove it to be gone
I already did, retard. You linked the wrong vod after I gave you the twitchtracker link and confidently acted like it's the correct vod.

>>74155326
>Why are you insisting that I'm making all of this up?
because it's clear as day. Zen uses STTS with everybody, not just towards the audience. just watch some Henya streams, ruszki kurva.
>but you refuse because
because the onus to provide evidence is on you, the one making the claim.
>after I gave you the twitchtracker link
then you pretended it misidentified the vod. you're on 4chan, retardchama, not telegram, your posts don't just disappear, and even if you delete them now all external archives have already saved them. go die on the front for chabad lubavitch, you ain't good for anything else

>the seething retard is utterly convinced heavenly is Zen

>>74155576
All the evidence is already there.
>you pretended it misidentified the vod
I didn't pretend shit. I called you out for being a clown that confidently linked the wrong VOD while calling me a liar.
The both of the toaster twitchtracker links return the exact same VOD. This was already explained to you but you refuse to acknowledge facts because you are afraid of being exposed as a homosexual.

>>74155924
>as a homosexual.
tell me, ruszki kurva, how many times did you jerk it to Zen before "finding out"? I never did, not a loli, don't care.

>>74156236
You're the one jerking it to him since you're this defensive.

>>74150690
Not giving permissions to big streamers would be a death sentence for his online reputation

>>74156571
>n-no y-you
I accept your concession.

>>74146012
I hate anime

>>74156654
I said you were jerking it to him first so you're the one pulling the "no u" here, homosexual.
Why else would you be this defensive over the gender of a streamer you watch?

>>74152049
He gets permission to reup vids too, dipshit.

>>74156720
what part of "not a loli" did you not understand, gay russki?

>>74155158
yes, worship the corpo overlord cock

>>74156907
What part of "why else are you so defensive" don't you understand, homo pedo?

>>74156985
>loli = homo pedo
if you keep embarrassing yourself you WILL go back on the frontline. you already lost whatever "argument" you had in mind.

>>74157082
You are a homosexual AND a pedophile.
You're the one who lost the argument when you derailed it into arguing about the insults I'm using in my responses instead of addressing any of the facts.

>>74157162
>facts
you never had any, you faked an error and overdubbed a clip. tell your commander to send someone smarter next time, and have fun getting shelled to death! you won't get any more replies from me, ruszki kurva.

>>74157336
This post right here is you admitting defeat >>74156236
You failed to respond after getting called out for linking the wrong VOD.
Zen is a male and you're a homosexual.

>vshojonigger is an unironic ukraine flag twitter tranny
lmao

>/vt/ tourists here calling people pedos and homos as if anyone here gives a single fuck

Wrong crowd retards.

>>74149931
>the only one
Mint isn't doing it either

>>74149931
Mint hasn't done that she's just enjoying herself and streaming whatever she wants

>>74157556
>>74158360

She is a fleshie tho so she's just as shit.

>>74157556
IIRC Matara tried to goad her into saying NijiEN was hell too, but Mint just described it as "purgatory". Basically implying its more of a middle ground, some good with plenty of bad.

>>74158425
>She is a fleshie
Are you retarded?

>>74158567

If kson streamed her ass and tits out on another channel, would that make her less of a piece of shit? Nope.

>>74158694
If that's all it takes then Doki and Sayu arealso fleshies

>>74158745

And so it is.

>>74158795
So what you're saying is that Doki and Sayu are grifters. Good to see we agree.

>>74158836

Not all fleshies are grifters tho, probably? Not that I can think of any from the top of my head that aren't.

>>74158908
Ah ah ah, that's not what you said. You said that all fleshies are grifter, so Doki and Sayu are grifters too :)

>>74146012
>hololive rejects
>were in nijikuro
>expects them to be good entertainment
Are you for real ?

>>74158694
So you literally consider someone a fleshie for a having a completely separate non-vtuber account?

>>74146012
who the purple on the left?

>>74159099

If you plaster your flesh all over the internet, you're a fleshie. Who would've thought?

>>74159182
that indog whore mika, she's now mysta's girlfriend and they live together in indogland
note to jannies: this isn't doxx, mysta literally talked about it on stream

>>74159261
So what? lead rodent talked about her spawn on stream, TTSshojo used his real voice on stream revealing he's a man and both of those are a cause of a ban.

>>74159246
>>74158694
You can have your doxxfag obsession with the rm, but at least make it clear that you're applying a standard most others won't agree with.

>>74146012
Be honest OP. Did you think that the picture of bald Kuro is what his model actually looked like

>>74162628
Most people also play gacha games and prefer dubs, most people are fucking wrong.

If you fleshpost, it doesn't matter what account it's under, you're still a fucking fleshie. There is literally no reason to ever fleshpost, besides being a narcissistic piece of shit.

>>74164829
>There is literally no reason to ever fleshpost, besides being a narcissistic piece of shit.
Incorrect, you can make a lot of money with it.

>>74164829
Then you agree that Doki and Sayu are grifters because they done fleshie shit right? And it was on their current accounts, not even some private non-vtuber stuff.

>>74164880
I do believe those go hand in hand, because only a narcissist would get the idea of posting themselves on the internet for money. A person who isn't a narcissist would just, you know, read a book and scam money from lonely mentally ill people.

>>74157556
You missed her talking about how traumatized she is in the other account?

>>74165041
So by your logic, if they aren't doing it for money, then they aren't a narcissist. Cool, then Mint isn't a narcissist then :)

>jaw about exnijis
>jaw about vshojo
>jaw about other exnijis
>jaw about loli and homos
I am now against dramafarming sisters

>>74165163
Not just money, any gain like clout, likes, shares, whatever.

See if I post my asshole on 4chan, it's not narcissistic fleshposting because I gain nothing tangible out of it, besides sexual satisfaction.

But if I post it as a tripfag, then it's narcissistic fleshposting because it's immediately establishing a brand.

This is not really rocket science here guys, get a fucking grip.

>>74165114
What other account? Mint only has 1 twitter account.

>>74149139
>Literally every debut
Show us seethe over other corpos debuting. Most Holos and Nijis are people nobody has ever or rarely heard of before they debut, same with the other smaller corpos. VShojo is the only one that gets this because they take on previously established talents. Much easier to "sour grapes" on someone who used to be in "your" tribe than some nobody who gets a big chance now.

>>74165373
>moving goalposts
I see, I see

>>74149931
It's funny how this is the cope that's gained traction. And not the obvious nobody else who was in Niji wants to associate with her after what happened.

>>74149377
Kuro intentionally murdered half his audience by telling the fujos to fuck off. That was his choice and, yeah, he's happier now even if not more successful.

>>74165506
More like SHE doesn't want to associate with anyone who was ever in Niji, including her JP oshi who reincarnated as an indie and followed her.

>>74165504
>defining narcissism is moving goalposts

I can tell you like vtubers, because you're a fucking moron.

>>74165586
This. Doki only associates with people she can leech from, and every ex-niji's fanbases knows how much of a leech Doki is so she wouldn't gain anything from collabing with them.

>>74165663
>narcissism means this
>well actually it means this
>no it's actually this
I can tell you're a retard because you keep on moving the goalposts to fit your narrative

>>74165586
All I'm saying is that friendships and support groups are a thing and they work for literally everyone else who was in Niji who keeps in touch. The alternative is that everyone else who graduated is in this ever expanding list of bullies

>>74146694
I hate the react meta, but can't really blame the streamers for doing it. Why wouldn't you do something that requires zero effort while being highly successful? I blame all of the vapid drones that lap that sort of content up. If there weren't so many giving them views, they'd stop doing it.

>>74165663
if you dont like vtubers, then why are you even here?

>>74166001
I like hating them.

>seething about doki and zen and sayu
lmao

>>74165663
Imagine being on /vt/, AND being mad, and not even liking vtubers.

>>74165896
How did Chihiro bully her? By simply being better than her at APEX?

>>74166108
Chihiro is part of the bully clique

>>74166054
Then why get your panties in a bundle over things they do outside of vtubing?

>>74166251
At the rate the bully clique is expanding it will include every vtuber under the sun except for Doki

>>74146012
People used to put more effort to their bait posts.

>>74156781
they still arent his videos

>>74157417
I love when people try to push this so hard. Zen the vtuber aka character is female, who the fuk cares what gender the VA actually is, insecure people that's who.

>>74166309

Because I hate piece of shit narcissists that are under the misconception that they're people?

Racists, homophobes, bigots, porn addicts, narcissists, they're all in the same category of subhuman shit. It's like watching Donald Trump claim he is a great businessman, just stay in your fucking lane.

>>74167109
You and your buddies clearly care enough to damage control his voice leaking.

>>74167319
LMFAO we got an unironic leftard here. This is the kind of audience that watches Doki LOL

>>74167425
Oh no, I'm not a leftie. You do realize that the majority of racists are lefties right, you precious little fucking moron.

>>74167425
Really does explain why they keep on dodging the comments about Doki being a narcissistic grifter.

>>74167510
>Oh no, I'm not a leftie.
>seethes about Trump
Sure leftard, whatever you say lmao

>>74167319
the average dokifag be like "i hate homophobes"

>>74167375
So your "insult" is that I'm homosexual because I jerk to porn of a female character used by a male that speaks via Speech to Text Speech. What if I told you I'm bisexual anyway then what?

>>74167539

I am not dodging a question I already answered, jesus fucking christ. Like talking to fucking children here.

Do they fleshpost? Yes? Then they're a narcissistic piece of shit, I don't give a shit who they are. Next you're gonna make me define the difference between fleshposts and actual content.

>>74167715
You're a homosexual because you're clearly shaken by the implication that you jacked off to a man.
You could have just said you don't care but instead you and others like you keep trying to claim that it wasn't Zen's voice because clearly the person behind the avatar matters to you.

>>74167755
>Like talking to fucking children here.
Then maybe you should leave :)

>>74158694
>streamed her ass and tits out on another channel, would that make her less of a piece of shit? Nope.
you just crapped on a bunch of holos lol

>>74146012
Gura deflection thread

>>74167838
>>74167838
Okay so I jacked off to zen, a dude's female character? Alrighty I'm a homosexual because I'm clearly not attracted at all to females, and am jacking off to the dude behind the avatar. Your move, also fyi not the same anon arguing over voice clips but believe what you will child.

>>74146012
do not ever forget that half the reason nijisanji is terrible is because of the vtubers in it

>>74168751
You jumped into a conversation in which a faggot got called a faggot for getting extremely bothered over the alleged gender of a streamer he watches.
What you yourself have done is irrelevant when you have clearly picked a side and that is the side of denying that the voice belongs to the person behind the avatar.

>>74147384
That would be 2 centi finanas [cfnn]

>>74165533
Would've called him happy until his schizo moment last week

>>74168848
This. Just look at doki and sayu: they're terrible people.

>>74169203
The one remaining are way worse...
-Elira: corrupted nepohirer overly supported bully
-Enna: low life mentally deranged pedophile
-Reimu: her boyfriend Hyurno groomed many minors and when one of them spoke up (Hibiya) Reimu and Rakkun attacked said minor
-Aster: harasser creep
-Vox: backstabbing snake and liar
-Finana: waste of space
-Millie: makes King Kong look sexy
-Luca: scammer and compulsive liar
and all the other cucks and rats mostly
nepohires by Elira

>>74146012
Keep seething sis

>>74146012
>NIJISEETHE

>>74169806
>>74169866
>1 minute apart

>>74169589
Every single thing you said can and should be applied to doki and sayu

>>74150690
lmao the cope
>you can literally see on Z PoV the text on the top "holy shit, it's jesus" at 29s
>You hear leaking only the "jesus" on Toaster pov at the same time frame
You also have to cope really hard if you want to convince anyone that was heavenly's voice I listined to my nigga alot in russianbadgers videos for years and now alot in collabs with matara
Of course there's no point for Zen to ever reveal the truth, unless if he wants to retire

>>74169994
I hope rosemi is enjoying her mental break vacation with matara.

>>74150594
That's Heavenly's voice
Couldn't tell ya how it's picking up on Zen's STT but not in-game, but that's Heavenly's voice

>>74151156
>>74151525
>>74153506
trying to gaslight anons in a random thread is doing the inverse of what you want

>>74146012
The real problem with vshojo is the blatant ugliness, nepotism, and clique

>>74154684
>You can see that Zen said both of those things
Did you forget that her face is being tracked so we can see whether or not she's moving her mouth
Even when you count for the delay for TTS to appear, she didn't say those things. Her face is right there

>>74170265
I do not think Doki and Sayu know who Hyurno or Hibiya are, maybe they know of Rakkun?
Hyurno was a massive pedophile, who was enabled by his years long girlfriend Reimu and Hibiya was one of his many victims. Reimu sided with her pedo boyfriend by attacking Hibiya when he spoke up against his groomer Hyurno. Back then Reimu herself, would pretend to be a minor.

>>74170812
life would be so easy for you if Zen had the balls to come forth with the truth
That's why Jowol is the best babiniku on twitch, I respect the guy and burst a nut to his doll lewds fanarts

>>74164829
>it doesn't matter what account it's under
Your oshi most likely has a normal-life account somewhere, whether you're aware of it or not.

>>74170915
Both doki and sayu are huge pedos

>>74170925
I don't care if Zen is secretly a man, that really doesn't make any difference to me.

I'm just telling you that there is enough information available in those clips to disprove your conspiracy.

>>74170812
He did say those things. How else did the text appear?

>>74171176
Couldn't tell you. What I can tell you is that it was Heavenly's voice, which means it can't have been Zen.
Maybe they secretly live together? Who knows

>>74171328
It wasn't Heavenly's voice because his voice isn't heard on Zen POV.
You can't explain the text because that would mean admitting that it was Zen's voice.

>>74165586
Why would anyone lie about her not following Chihiro when this shit is verifiably false

>>74171045
it's not my conspiracy I just joined the guy that posted the videos
to me is clear as day this was not heavenly while matching the random "jesus" in Zen's text
real problem is not the cock but the dishonesty

>>74171045
You clearly care because you're extremely committed to claiming that he is not a man.

>>74171449
>>74171496
I dunno what to tell you guys, it's Heavenly's voice.
Unless you wanna say that Zen is conveniently a voice match, there's nothing else for it.

But then there's also the problem of her model not saying the things which appear in the subtitle, which is an undeniable obstacle in this rrat.

>>74171505
I don't have to be all that committed to saying something that's observably true

>>74150594
There's also that one really old stream where "she" brought her "boyfriend" on stream, and her boyfriend was the one reacting to chat's usual inside jokes while "she" kept asking what they meant. Deleted that one real quick but it's still up on archives.

>>74171771
It's not his voice because he can't be heard on Zen POV. You're simply imagining that it's him because you think he is the only other male in the collab.
Zen's speech to text proves that it's Zen.

>>74151156
>>74152134
>>74152358
>>74170644
Holy shit, Heavenly sounds JUST LIKE ZEN'S BOYFRIEND from a few years back!

>>74171771
How is Zen not being male "observably true"?

>>74171918
>ZEN'S BOYFRIEND from a few years back
But he's now in niji, he's Aster.

>>74171771
>I dunno what to tell you guys, it's Heavenly's voice.
yea you really wont be able to come up with anything convincing
>That was not heavenly's voice and that voice was not head on Zen's POV,
>there's no technical mishaps on the game, the proximity voice was working perfectly since you can see Toaster voice fading away when Zen was running away
>when the "mysterious" voice was happening Zen's TTS was muted
>Right after Zen is clearly doing some troubleshooting for being "mute" on stream
and saying that was heavenly mic is insulting to the guy, his voice is always clear and crisp, not that static bullshit

>>74170925
the best babiniku will always be vedal

>>74148445
Trust the process

>>74150594
I went back to watch the Zen vod and saw that Toaster and Zen get split away from the other two so there's no possibility that it's Heavenly's voice as he couldn't possibly be reacting to what's happening to toaster.

https://web.archive.org/web/20200422014851/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tIGnm2Dppo

>>74146012
hiring ex-talents to go stick it to hololive and nijisanji lost its charm and is a bit repetitive. They need a new gig, its not helping them that Twitch is their main platform to have avoided any competition from youtube.

>>74171898
>>74171993
>>74172193
None of you are even bothering to deflect the fact that Zen's fully-tracked face was not mouthing the words that appeared on her subtitles. You can see her in a laughing fit immediately before that voice comes in, but you can't see her saying anything when it does.

So what gives?

>>74172321
Vedal is not a babiniku, his avatar is the turtle

>>74172193
It's so obvious that Zen's TTS crashed and the game swapped to his mic when it couldn't find the TTS input anymore.
Somehow the simplest explanation is a "conspiracy" to these guys.

>>74165475
Literally last night with Kyoresu
Do you twitchfags think only Vshojo exists in vtubing or something

>>74172572
His model always matches the timing of the TTS which means the mouth is set up to react to audio and not his actual mouth movement. When his TTS stops working the mouth also stops working but the text keeps appearing.

>>74152049
He actually obtains the legal rights for every single clip in his videos. I know holokeks are out of touch but there are huge media companies that buy the rights to memes nowadays.

>>74172572
The mouth is moving the entire time. It even moves before "what in the world did I just witness" pops up.

>>74152134
Someone uploaded both videos on youtube but they got copy right strikes from MUSO.

>>74172850
wow, the same company that copyright strikes anything related to zentreya? what a coincidence

>>74172693
>His model always matches the timing of the TTS
Wrong. Anyone who actually watches Zen can tell you there have been many times where her mouth can be seen moving before the words come out. And of course, her face is still tracked when not speaking.

>>74172829
Yeah it's moving, but it's not moving in a way that would make those words. Doesn't take much skill in lip-reading to see it.

>>74172905
hololive used to use them before they got their own legal department

I don't mind what vshojo do really
I just like to see people dunking niji

>Zen's TTS broke and the game leaked his voice
CONSPIRACY
>Actually heavenly was there the whole time even though he clearly wasn't and it was havenly's voice except it can't be heard on Zen's side for some inexplicable reason
The "observable truth"

>Zen has alot of coom bait models.
>questionable gender behind model gets revealed twice.
Any Vshojo fans feel weird jerking it to Zen?

>>74172572
>Vedal is not a babiniku, his avatar is the turtle
he used the neuro model one time. no one will ever reach that peak again

>>74146012
OP you do know that Quinn is not in vshojo right?

>>74172982
The game is buggy in particular with sound. Heavenly even denied playing the game the following day because he talked about it consistently fucking with his audio and even forcing a restart at one point.

>>74172982
>Zen just happens to sound like one of the other guys in the collab
>the person who would have heard the "real Zen" had no reaction to it

>>74171771
>But then there's also the problem of her model not saying the things which appear in the subtitle, which is an undeniable obstacle in this rrat.

You can clearly see their mouth was moving but there was no audio output only text from the software. They had stop and fix the issue shortly after.

>>74172930
What fucking "lip-reading"? His model is massively deformed and merely flaps it's mouth when he speaks.
You can tell how the model is set up to react to audio from this very clip but keep burying your head in the sand.

>>74173085
Yet

>>74146012
Nijiseethe
Also kill yourself for including that faggot Quinn

>>74173174
>Zen just happens to say the exact same thing as Heavenly does TWICE at the exact same time and the game audio mysteriously bugs out and only plays heavenly's voice for toaster despite heavenly not being at the scene and not being able to react to what's happening to toaster

>>74146012
what have you done to my boy.

>>74146249
>No "ohh niji was terrible" baiting
fucking really now?

>>74173174
>the person who would have heard the "real Zen" had no reaction to it
He had a reaction which was to restart his stream and delete the VOD.

>Toaster deletes VOD.
>Vshojo uses Muso to copy right strikes that re-uploaded vod on youtube the same company copy right striking anthimes videos on Froot.

Alright that was not heavenly's voice if two countermeasures were taken against it for re-uploads.

>>74148064
>just because what we say has no relation with observable reality d-doesn't invalidate

>>74173388
So are you saying that everything in Ant's video was also true? Or that they just take down anti things.

>>74173532
Why was Toaster's VOD deleted if there's nothing wrong with it? Is Toaster an anti now?

>Everyone's design has some shade of purple in it
Matara trying to get some green in there with Mint

>>74173886
VShojo already has the greenest vtuber to ever green.

>>74174301
>doesn't even stream anymore

>>74174688
terrible choice of day to make this post

>>74169589
if youre gonna go through the effort of seething and typing all that shit then at least say thing that are true lmao

>>74174688
She was just streaming with the Baldur's Gate cast not even an hour ago.

>>74167425
>>74167539
Really not doing a good job refuting this picture.

>>74172640
Kyoresu went from corpo to indie, that's not the same thing, and besides, the way she got terminated obviously has something to do with it.

>>74151919
No fucking way he spent 15k just to look like that

>>74171779
I have not been able to find that one fir the past year or so
Any link? All the YT reups were taken down by copyright

>>74172542
>>74176731
Oh nevermind

>>74146249
"no niji was terrible baiting" anon i know vtuber fans are retarded but c'mon now.

>>74174830
Nice, whens the next stream?

Personally? I think they should just shut down Niji at this point, black list everyone who ever worked for them, and also blacklist everyone who was retarded enough to actually watch them. Kek especially those guys, can you imagine the absolute subhuman of a person who watched more than five minutes of that slop, looool now imagine someone who gave them money hahahahaa oh man its just to much, im laughing tooooo hard. NIJIFANS! KEK!

>>74177637
> t. Nijifan

>>74177550
Probably later today. She wants to play the Sisyphus game.

>>74146012
Corporate often has a better idea of what a good looking avatar is, with access to many different artists... though there are exceptions.
Some talents make bad choices, due to having less feedback. It's like celebrities with plastic surgery.
I'd keep the good features of old avatar, unless truly want to reinvent oneself including personality.

When you vtube it’s your chance to look as great however you want
Why do they always pick ugly boring designs

>>74174830
That's cool.

Sucks that there will be no sequels though.

>>74149139
>why Vshojo retards think they are so special?

This is their entire thing and it's why they're so insufferable

>>74173033
I jerk to jowol model, the caveat here is that he is not trying to trick the audience into thinking he is a girl
best of both worlds: a bro you would fuck no homo.

>>74181968
Jowol gets some good porn ngl

>>74181968
He even calls himself a man trapped in a doll. It's so easy to just own being that kind of character.

>>74173174
>the person who would have heard the "real Zen" had no reaction to it
I'm sure all the streamers Zentreya closely works with and everyone in VShojo knows that it's a dude. All of them keep it under wraps for obvious reasons.

>>74183101
Not really a secret so much as kayfabe. More than one person has slipped up and called him by the wrong pronoun on stream.

Zen turns every collab they are in into a chaos filled comedy gold mine. Guy is almost as funny as Eilene, and I loved """her""" stuff. Unlike every other male in the industry, Zen doesn't seem to be a sex pest and is loved by basically everyone.

>>74183912
Given the very obsessive fanbase he has and the aggressive takedowns of any proof of him being male it's more secret than kayfabe.

>>74184202
This. He's simply a disgusting liar.

Stfu ugly ass losers

>>74174688
>>74177550
She streamed yesterday, today, the 11th, the 5th and the 3rd of this month.

>>74186779
What this guy said

>>74146012
hey if it works

>>74147749
retard

>>74191918
It definitely does. People can even shit on Kuro and Quinn if they want but at the end of the day they're much happier out of Nijisanji than they were inside of it. It's just that numberfags have so infested this board that they're conflating viewcount with happiness.