/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holosongs.com/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Im rewatching Fauna

>+19 (+0.38%)
STOCK BROSSSSS
WERE SO FUCKING BACK
MOONING IMMINENT AHHHHHHHHHH

>>73849848
Recent clip numbers
>>73793753
>>73793772
>>73793798
>>73793820

Gura

I'm watching Biboo

IRyS

kek

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>27,964: Watame (Hololive)
>22,356: Subaru (Hololive)
>21,750: Pekora (Hololive)
>18,541: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>18,179: Koyori (Hololive)
>16,264: Patra (Indie)
>15,895: AZKi (Hololive)
>13,589: Ayame (Hololive)
>13,015: Calliope (Hololive)
>12,058: Hinano (VSPO)
>11,763: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>11,734: Lamy (Hololive)
>11,600: Met (VSPO)
>11,533: Kanata (Hololive)
>11,506: Met (VSPO)
>11,482: Kagami (Nijisanji)
>11,277: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>11,157: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>10,446: Chiroru (Indie)
>10,401: Bijou (Hololive)
>10,044: Aki (Hololive)
>10,020: Kronii (Hololive)

>YAB
Nijimales are planning to invite mori and gangrape her!

>>73849734
>IRyS #1
>Fauna #2
Botfag in shambles.

# is the Cunny General

>PSSSSSSSSSSSST
HEY NUMBERFAGS!
>LOOK AY THIS! DON’T LOOK AWAY!
THIS IS THE FUTURE YOU CHOSE!
>REPENT!

>>73849922
Sex

>>73849923
She is at almost at 10k and is about to get beboo's raid

>>73849943
APRIL 2024 BRONZE
>1) 52,303: Ririmu (Nijisanji) Girls talk 2024
>2) 27,793: Subaru (Hololive) TABS
>3) 36,778: Korone (Hololive) SubaKoroMio~n A Shut-in Daughter
>4) 23,367: Pekora (Hololive) Lethal Company
>5) 29,255: Chiroru (Indie) Baseball
>6) 35,587: Lamy (Hololive) Lamy project
>7) 41,238: Pekora (Hololive) MonHun World
>8) 21,253: Hajime (Hololive) Clubhouse 51 vs Mio
>9) 22,921: Hakase Fuyuki (Nijisanji) yugioh pack opening offcollab
>10) 21,154: Lamy (Hololive) MonHun World w/ Nene
>11) 32,469: Pekora (Hololive) MonHun World
>12) 30,657: Chiroru (Indie) Baseball
>13) 33,235: Marine (Hololive) MonHun World
>14) 32,961: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCR RUST
>15) 25,214: Shigure Ui (Hololive) Chatting
>16) 21,750: Pekora (Hololive) Slay the Spire

> PER COMPANY
3x: Nijisanji
11x: Hololive
2x: Indie

> PER STREAMER
4x: Pekora
2x: Lamy, Chiroru
1x: Ririmu, Subaru, Korone, Hajime, Hayase Fuyuki, Marine, Kuzuha, Shigure Ui

>irys retaining most of the raid
kronies are whores

>>73849837
>Holofag reveals himself to be religious nutcase who lacks morals and basic human empathy
I should be surprised at that, but somehow I'm not

>>73849964
Yes

>>73849887
>audition tweet around ~11AM JST
>stock movement turns around and up
it's that easy

I love them both so much

>>73849807
Not just Suisei but Miko too. It's safe to say that MiComet becoming so popular really increased both of their stocks.

>>73849981
She only lost like 160 people

APRIL 2024 HIGHLANDER
>1) 181,563: Pekora (Hololive) PekoMama Debut
>2) 92,231: Flare (Hololive) 3DLIVE Birthday
>3) 77,236: Toya (Nijisanji) 1million sub endurance
>4) 46,665: Calliope (Hololive) 3D Birthday Live
>5) 36,265: Marine (Hololive) MonHun World [S]
>6) 48,754: Koyori (Hololive) Holo Mahjong Tournament [S]
>7) 47,091: Miko (Hololive) Horsebetting
>8) 21,253: Hajime (Hololive) Clubhouse 51 vs Mio [B]
>9) 44,116: Subaru (Hololive) Hamtaro3 w/ Marine [S]
>10) 21,154: Lamy (Hololive) MonHun World w/ Nene [B]
>11) 41,960: Bijou (Hololive) WOLF QUEST
>12) 42,131: NeruMero (Indie) Genshin
>13) 72,601: Mikoto (Nijisanji) Niji ranking males
>14) 32,961: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) VCR RUST [B]
>15) 25,214: Shigure Ui (Indie) Chatting
>16) 27,964: Watame (Hololive) PLATEUP! w/ Mio, Korone, Ririka


> PER COMPANY
11x: Hololive
3x: Nijisanji
2x: Indie

>>73849891

10K DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>73849944
>Nijimales
Nijisanji is VCR too? I thought it was only ecelebs.

>>73849981
IRyStocrats and Kronies have a special relationship. IRyS is an ever looming presence in /inf/.

>>73849970
>almost
Already

>>73849964
Cunny love

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY*
>04/16 TALLY:
13,015: Mori (Hololive) | VCR Rust
10,401: Bijou (Hololive) | Monster Hunter World Collab w/ Ina, IRyS, Mori
10,020: Kronii (Hololive) | Ender Magnolia
8,386: Nerissa (Hololive) | American Truck Simulator
7,675: Ina (Hololive) | Monster Hunter World Collab w/ Bijou, IRyS, Mori
6,290: IRyS (Hololive) | Monster Hunter World Collab w/ Bijou, Ina, Mori
5,684: Dokibird (Indie) | Flight Simulator

>EN GOLDS FOR APRIL 2024
1) Kiara (Hololive) - 17,995 - Easter Collab Special
2) Shiori (Hololive) - 17,536 - Biboo Is Missing (Overcooked 2 Collab w/ Advent)
3) Mori (Hololive) - 19,506 - Birthday Countdown + Totsu + Announcement
4) Mori (Hololive) - 46,665 - 3D Birthday Live
5) Mint (Indie) - 25,197 - Return Karaoke
6) Sonny (Nijisanji) - 10,444 - Birthday Karaoke (Duets)
7) Mumei (Hololive) - 17,280 - Unarchived Karaoke
8) Nerissa (Hololive) - 13,792 - Unarchived Karaoke
9) Fauna (Hololive) - 12,977 - Minecraft
10) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 13,057 - Shinkansen 0
11) Bijou (Hololive) - 41,782 - Wolfquest w/ Iofi, Mumei, Nerissa, Shiori
12) Mori (Hololive) - 9,288 - Monster Hunter World
13) Fauna (Hololive) - 12,763 - The Witcher 3
14) Gura (Hololive) - 31,329 - Content Warning Collab w/ Fauna, Kronii, Mumei
15) Bijou (Hololive) - 20,599 - Birthday Party (Karaoke Duets)
16) Mori (Hololive) - 13,015 - VCR Rust

>PER COMPANY
14x: Hololive
1x: Indie, Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
4x: Mori
2x: Bijou, Fauna
1x: FuwaMoco, Gura, Kiara, Mint, Mumei, Nerissa, Shiori, Sonny

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
27p: Bijou
25p: Mori
15p: Fauna, Mumei
10p: FuwaMoco
8p: IRyS
6p: Mint, Nijisanji
5p: Gura, Kiara, Nerissa, Shiori, Sonny
4p: FuwaMoco
3p: Ina
1p: Amelia, Baelz, Kronii, Matara

>>73849966
Damn holokeks testing their unCCV bots on innocent people now

>>73849964
Yeah

>>73849966
The ultimate raspberry winner

>>73849996
cover... your en4 audition tweet...

Flare acknowledged the bug

GRINDSTONE PANEL for offkai

Kaela and Beboo will do a grindstone panel for offkai

>>73849992
Holofans are god's chosen people.
Know your place Nijisanji heathen and god shall have mercy on you and Nijisanji. We wouldn't want another fiasco now would we?

>>73850086
*DEV_IS EN

>>73850090
YAB

>>73850097
>>73850099 (Me)
do we kiss now?

>>73850090
Flare should acknowledge her bow

>>73850041
>constantly flip flops between kronmei and faumei
SLUT

>>73850139

>>73849964

>>73850160
She liked the Faumei art last so it would appear first for people stalking her likes

IRyS's current CCV = 3 Enna birthdays

>>73850008
Now that Flare is there, says good bye to that retention rate

I wonder why Biboo and IRyS didn't play together today? They overlapped for hours and seemed to get along yesterday.

>>73850086
EN4 isn't happening

>>73849992
Bro no way

>>73850221
IRyS want Furea's futa cock more than rocunny

AIEEEEEEEEEE
>NEGATIVE VIEWS!

>>73850221
arent they at different parts of the game?

>>73850221
You could count the number of times IRyS has organized a collab on your hands. If Biboo wanted to play, it had to be her sending the Steam friend request first.

>>73850002
No it's just this thread being retarded and using averages for everything, Suisei used to stream actively in 2021, now she streams very sporadically and every stream gets a rarity buff

>>73850255
IRyS hit iceborn last night and beboo just hit it like an hour or so ago

>>73850253
>ISREAL

>>73850038
Nobody cares about your shithole splits and especially not the sewer of namefag simps who’d kill their “oshi” for a minute of the local “fem”anons attention.

>>73850255
Flare is further than Biboo though.

>>73849992
Bro bro bro, fr?

>>73850304
You sure know a lot about /inf/ for someone who apparently doesnt care kek

>>73849992

Is Vspo female only? If it’s coed VspoEN might be dead on arrival

>>73850310
Flare would do the level 1 quest with someone

>“The following content is not available on this app” when trying to watch a video,”
OH KEK, so the great youtube collapse hours ago was indeed them testing the new anti-adblock measure

>SorAz premiere
>got recommended the Topic ver earlier
>but also
>negative ccv
>negative time streamed
duality of Neal

>>73850369
I saw your deleted post in global you monkey

>>73849964
Ye.

>>73850387
Seem like it extended to all plugin and extension, not just Adsblock anymore
I wonder if average Holo watcher install YT plugin

>>73850369
Go buy an ad faggot

At this point anyone joining kurosanji deserves the mountains of debt, bullying, and lack of free will. anyone expecting to make it big just look at the most recent waves CCV and SC kek

>>73849992
We love Jesus and Watame here

Jelly on the Telly!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BthdmNX9oYo

>>73849944
Good. Mori need to atone for what she did to Gura in that Airbnb.

>>73850561
buy an ad

>>73850507
>Join niji
>Act like it's the greatest moments of your life
>Get terminated or graduate
>Imply you had issues with the lovers and staff
If you want to grift them for clout, the plan has been published

DN is creating trouble again

>>73850561
awa

>>73850387
My app also went like that but I updated it.
btw, I am currently watching everyone's favorite numberfag song ranking
29 REFLECT

Irys 10k doryaaaaaaaaaaa!

>>73850619
Base. Hope he ruin vtubing even further

Third party tools include all browser extensions, youtube-dl and its forks are safe (for now).

>>73850295
IRyS hit high rank this stream anon

https://youtu.be/mnT5v7rMWIg
https://youtu.be/mnT5v7rMWIg
https://youtu.be/mnT5v7rMWIg
NUMBERCHADS IT'S THAT TIME OF THE WEEK AGAIN.

>>73850643
She mentioned playing iceborn before this stream.

25 Rebellion

>>73850507
>be a 2view
>join niji
>become a 3view if not 4view
sounds worth it

>>73850387
>of Fauna's ~9k viewers, only 400 were not using adblockers

bros... maybe google has a point...

>>73850661
The doesn't change the fact that she literally hit High Rank on stream, today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2gUgNhuPb4
>double tap Miko
this game any good?

>>73850619
But homobeggars are the ones doing it...
Are they incels?

>>73850703
I have never touched a MH. I just repeated what IRyS said

>>73849695
I prefer Discipline

None of these motherfuckers understand VTubing.
Please for the love of god burn this fucking cancer of a branch down.

>>73850724
Well, yes but actually yes

>>73850653
where is the lappu DO U cover

>>73850723
Debuff for Niji

>>73850693
Bruh that much

>>73850507
>#1 in nipland
>more freedom
>chaotic and unhinged
>not idols
>no scandals
:D

>>73850693
i think only the first hit of ~2k was the adblock attack. it didnt affect jps.

>>73850757
>Kpopsister
Why it's always them

>>73850693
Maybe those corpos should adapt and learn that people doesn't want their live content to be interrupted by a fucking anoying video, it's not like tv ads where the show pauses, focus more on things more like banner ads or some shit

>>73850796
>All lies
The greatest irony of Niji is that all the thing they boasted about eventually bite them back in the ass

I don't think I need to check the archives to know what happened picrel. This is crazy.

Did we talk about this yet?

>>73850809
>new UI layout literally shoves clickbait ads with big boob AI women in my view at all times when watching a video, directly under the video where I would've normally gotten the video title and description

They're already trying, anon

>>73850805
Kpop fans are zoomers and zoomers have social media brainrot.

Did Biboo play with IRyS

>>73850859
Adding more and not removing the ones that are the issue isn't improving

>>73850855
y axis labels, moron

>>73850827
greatest thread in recent memory

>>73850369
>Is Vspo female only?
They are but the number of coed collabs they participate on might as well make it a coed agency in all but name.

>>73850002
MiComet was created because they were both already popular, Suisei and Miko didnt interact much if at all before Cover started setting collab sponsorships for them
Also I feel like their actual streams are not all that much of a buff for them, pretty sure Miko gets better numbers with her solo buff content, they are merch monsters tho

>>73850884
No, Flare was around.

>>73850884
Nah, Biboo got to Iceborne and took down some of the new Mons.

>>73850723
>That thumbnail
Slapped a gimmick on a game again?

#6 Kiara-Chimera. Not bad.

>>73849967

>>73850827
adblock users...

Kicked out of top 3 wow

Oh shit, I just noticed that Fuwamoco are playing DKC2 tomorrow, sufferkino is back on the menu. Probably bad numbers though.

>marine under 1 million views
it's reclining...

>>73850723
This game has unironically 20 minutes of content

>>73850724
>Are they incels?
Sometimes it feels that way since it often ends with them calling a holo a whore if they don't get what they want. They use 'incel' so much since they're projecting.

>>73850757
You want to burn down HoloEN?

INDOCHADS WE CANNOT STOP WINNING

IWYS

I like how most of ReGloss are pushing homos nijis and outside collabs, banchou is just doing more and more holo collabs.
please for the love of god I need an EN asobi taizen 1-on-1 stream...

How many NijiEN streams are higher than this premiere viewership today

>>73851121
My opinion on Kobo changed when she mentioned wanting to find a husband with a salary way below what I make in 3 days of work

>>73851121
Why can't EN do this?

>>73850724

what happened to Mori's songs? Shes usually a mainstay in the top 10 along with Suisei

>>73851175
no wonder nijifags still blame all holofans

>>73851121
Kobo's recline has been greatly exaggerated. Still a power house.

>>73851167
the only one that stuck to making pop is Kiara

>>73850507
>If I were in charge of recruiting for EN, I wouldn't trust anyone trying to come in under the current circumstances.
Nips that have a vague sense of the EN side don't have confidence either.

>>73851165
11

I would trade Bijou and a 2024 1st round pick for Ironmouse

>>73851191
She stopped being CGDCT.

>>73851121
SEA fanbases are literally the same as kpop ones with the "lets boost their numbers"

>>73850983
It's buffed Miko's music for sure. She used to be a shitter when it came to music views but now her music, while obviously not Suisei tier, still does very solid views.

>>73851224
please come back, amesame...

>>73850086
Why would they debut a new EN gen after flopvent?

Why can't R x R x R pull the same numbers as bibideba?

>>73850983
Miko merch sale actually wasn't always big. I cannot pin point when it got so huge tho, I think around the time she got appointed ambassador?

>>73851191
do you want a nuanced analysis or are you happy with a buzzword like >>73851242

>>73851242
she was more not CGDCT when her music are in the top

>>73851242
Isn’t it the opposite?
>Stop collabing with TT
>Stop homocollabing
>Music start reclining
Mori becoming more feminine is detrimental to her tomboy persona

>>73851169
how much did she want?

>>73851169
I'm two weeks living in Indonesia and feel like a king.
Everything is so cheap while having easy access to everything

>>73850724
Let's not forget this gem.

>>73851309
I think it was 3 digits

jwu qrd on the yab?

>>73851270
Music views are all about the music video. R x R x R is a much better song but Suisei's song has that gimmick MV with the live action segments. I actually think the Suisei MV looks fucking terrible but it's certainly unique and I guess that is enough of a draw for people.

>>73851191
Sold her soul to a music label. Her music started declining right after UMJ.

>>73851292
I'm not the monkey who asked, but I'd actually be interested in a nuanced take to see if your ideas line up with mine as to why she fell off a cliff.

>>73851209
And she was rewarded. Multiple songs on the most viewed of the month.

>>73851257
nijifag projecting

>>73851302
But she went back on trying to be CGDCT so now it hurt her worse than if she had not tried pivoting.

>>73851320
I wonder what happened to her, she just vanished after becoming targeted by the beggars

>>73851119
homos are not holoEN

>>73850757
that tweet's a goldmine, apparently mouse is also on "that side" which explains her complete silence when silvervale was getting harassed.

>>73851302
You are forgetting that her music got worse over time

>>73851377
banned for being a woman with opinions and not a tranny

>>73851331
I hate this new era
Back then we used to numberfag music based on if the song is good, but now even the worst singer can still get number with a flashy MV

>>73851331
Pathetic EN seethe lol

Apparently Nikkei official made a great news about Holofes

>>73851119

https://twitter.com/holomeetxTPE24/status/1780491387210997791
IRyS is "going" to taiwan

>>73851191
I think it concide with her joining UMG. Her sub growth also slowed down massively despite being a music chuuba

>>73851411
The tweet is replying to a clip of Kronii being a troon enabler?

>>73851431
Part of it is due to oversaturation and there being so much Hololive original music. This isn't necessarily a bad thing but it's going to lead to more good songs being overlooked if there is nothing flashy to go along with it. Gone are the days where a song like Reflect can break viewership records with no MV. You need a hook now.

>>73851461
do taiwan likes the jp girls?

>>73850757
We love our non-binary queen

>>73851486
Yeah
Half of Pekora SC is NT, I am not joking

>>73851270
No one knows HoloEN outside of their walled garden they themselves built. Only Gura was able to breakthrough the wall but she is gone until forever now.

>>73851365
Retard, when I said kpop fanbase it automatically aplied to niji too, both can be true

>>73851486
I feel like even if they don't they'll pretend anyway to dab on the chinks.

>>73851436
>EN seethe
Sure thing dude, lol. You can't tell me this doesn't look fucking retarded.

>>73851453
Here's their post
https://twitter.com/nikkei_ent/status/1780114385987662247

>>73851472
The good thing is that it force the Holo to get serious about their music. It filter the milque toast "singer" who think they can make it with just a nice voice

>>73851503
Bullshit, you're cherry picking some specific stream at best.

>>73851542
kek

>>73851533
It's kino just like the whole MV.

>>73851559
I watch her stream daily nigga, like half of the usual SCer use NT. And I bet it's the same for other JP

>>73851512
We don’t like ironmouse here00vrp

>>73851282
Miko already became a merch monster since at least 2022, check her birthday/anniversary merch sell

Why?

>>73851573
I knew someone would try and use it to shitpost so didn't want to post the screendhot myself

>>73851542
Still won't get the stocks up though, Cover is fucked

>>73851609
Why do you think she joined?

>>73851589
...you're judging based on your fucking *observations*? Never reply to me again retard.

>ESL hours

>>73851533
NTA but you just sound salty. It's the talent and their manager responsibility to make something successful, even if you think the audience is stupid for liking it.

>>73851605
I don't think you quite get my point, I mean that her merch sale started growing expotentially at some point, she used to be behind Marine

>>73851620
Because Mori wants Japanese tiny limp male dicks, duh

>>73850619
was giving it a check, why the fuck most of the ones who protect the doxflip is a pippafag?
https://twitter.com/AzeharaD/status/1780372203248271647

>>73851609
so they are getting paid after all, but with shilling instead of money
Isn't Hololive's mindchair bigger than VCR? is yagoo retarded (yes he is, don't answer)

>>73851609
P-please watch our eceleb e-dating server, we have the One Piece singer (n-no not that one)

>>73851609
now it make sense

>>73851609
They been shilling all the people joining the server anon

Why do we still do holo vs holo when hololive is losing momentum?

UMA the guy who won Capcom cup with mio's hoodie a while back got some free holo figures from Good Smile US

>>73851533
I actually haven't watched the MV but that does look fucking stupid, lmao.

>>73851690
Pretty Cool

>>73851574
You have a very weird definition of the term Kino. It looks like some shitty pre-2000 newgrounds animation.

>>73851681
Only EN is losing momentum. The main hololive and ID are stronger than ever.

>>73851465
Would the fact that all of her UMG songs aren't monetized hurt them in the algorithm?

>>73851690
Based

hlzntl project revived
stay tuned

>>73851729
>It looks like some shitty pre-2000 newgrounds animation.
Peak kino.

>>73851729
So true she should have gone with Kanauru instead

How long do I have to wait until a true competitor to hololive shows up?

Is there anything this nigga doesn't do?

>>73851282
She had a huge incline when she came back from her hiatus, then she became part of several high profile collabs like the Mikorone streams, had her Minecraft arc, joined shiraken, hosted the mc summer (?) events, started micomet...

>>73851589
Taichinkbro I know you want to seem relevant but you're not doing yourself a favor by claiming you're equally as important as JP.

>>73851486

>>73851780
probably have sex

>>73851767
VSPO is getting there in Japan. holoEN was surpassed by vshojo a long time ago.

>>73850983
>MiComet was created because they were both already popular
They weren't too relevant during 2020. Fun fact, Miko had her 3 months break right after MiComet's first ever management mandated concert in VILLs.
>>73851282
By the time MiComet started to take off near end of 2021. People especially shippers who buy Suisei merch would also buy Miko merch together and vice versa. Combined with how much of a monster Suisei's merch is, Miko got indirectly buffed from it.

>>73851780
Updating holocure

>>73851190

>>73851802
I am convinced you are a bot because I already know all that shit. Somehow it feel like you and I are not discussing the same thing

>>73851533
Suisei is the only one being innovative and looking at thing long term while other Holos are rotting in their own little garden.

>>73851823
>They weren't too relevant during 2020
Retard

Fubuki with the pixiv collab
https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000341.000035885.html

>Deadbeats getting jealous of Suisei
Grim. Check her Spotify plays if you think it's just the music video that people like.

>>73851780
Being a girl

>>73851867
nobody's jealous of enna though, she's a worthless whore lol

EN seethe hours my beloved

Every time this thread discuss Micomet it just reveal none of you know anything about them, nor actually want to discuss them individually

>>73851850
Show your numbers then. Suisei's numbers were in the middle of the pack in 2020 and Miko didn't start to incline to the top before her 147k comeback live by the end of 2020.

Still baffled me that fucking DO U has more views than mumei

>>73851867
>>73851883
>>73851906
???

>>73850757
Thanks Kronii, very cool

>>73851556
It's still too dependent on yt algorithm. I didn't even knew how great moona's music are till now, just thought it was all jp songs/covers.

think EN will still be around in 5 years?

>>73851906
Because DO U is a good song that gets you grooving and mumei is a boring song that puts you to sleep.

>>73851533
She threw a glass shoe at the director. I think that's pretty brilliant.

>>73851915

>1 minute apart
this board needs an increased cd like /vg/

>>73851885
everyone knows why miComet is actually a thing, and why Suisei isn't that into it. not sure why you would want to discuss it

>>73851937
Niji EN will most likely be folded into the main branch.

>>73851922
You have to cultivate your own slot in the algo before thinking of doing Tik-tok friendly MV
When I said that, I mean that you have to make your channel short-friendly first, only then would your MV benefit from it

>Sudden holo v holo

命にカフェテリア

>>73851917
hey, don't blame her on that, Canada has a weird rule, even Ina had to call Ao they

>>73851965
>>73851885

>>73851964
only for non-pass users of course

>>73851937
>no advent 3D
>no concert
>no new debuts
holoEN probably doesn't even have a full year left at this point

>>73851867
MVs are still the main contributor to popularity. Just compare how much worse Marine's latest original is doing compared to the ones with fancy MVs.

>>73851964
IDs and flags

https://www.bandai.co.jp/candy/products/2024/4549660958307000.html

>>73851900
>Miko didn't start to incline to the top before her 147k comeback live by the end of 2020
Because she was on a several month long break during the covid boom? Her comeback live was the first time most boom era fans got to watch her outside of clips you mongoloid nigger

>>73851780
Make a good game

>>73851982
it ramp up when i mentioned pipa, sorry

I just wish Towa played more into the weird three way shipping they tried for Started, at least that would have resulted on a HoloEarth concert or at least a Xmas live

>>73851987
Bro get this.... ok no listen this is hilarious...... WINNING SON lmaooooo what do you mean it's been 4 years

>>73851780
a successful game

Now you remember UMISEA exist
Does Marine even mention it anymore

>>73852010
That's because the song is dogshit even by fake type standards and it doesn't sound like a Marine song at all

>>73851885
Well then educate us Aristotle

>JP /#/ is so boring they crawling back to EN /#/chads

>>73851982
it's easy to get (you)s by baiting insecure holofags

>>73852055
>>73852079
>kevin seething on cooldown

>>73852047
Thanks for agreeing to my points. Maybe learn how to better comprehend nuance before you throw buzzword insults in a civilized discussion.

>>73852010
MV helps get it off the ground, but it has its own life once it's successful enough and on Spotify. That's why Spotify has so many plays compared to Youtube, because people who just like the song start listening and adding it to playlists.

I've seen many anons being confused about 2 types of holobots. Here is the exact demonstration and explanation.
On the picrel graph you can see 2 types of holobots working together:
>Holobots in the area marked with (1) are from one of the anons from /here/. They are quite rough and unrefined and thus look to obvious.
>Holobots in the area marked with (2) are from Cover's own bot system. Unlike the previous type of bots which are used mostly on Advent streams with some rare exceptions sometimes, this type of bots is used on every single Hololive stream. Those bots had been developed for years and thus don't make any artifacts on the graph. Today we were lucky to witness them dropping down because botting server went down for 30-35 minutes.
>Everything below the area marked with (2) are real viewers, but we are not interested in those.

>>73852097
Probably everytime they get a cafe or merch every few months

>>73852108
Not beating the allegations sis

>>73852107
they don't want to talk about holos there so it dies faster

>>73850619
Does Shiori have a lot of female fans?

>>73851663
You joke but that one piece did bring her a ton of new JP mindshare, she's sorta a celebrity on the server who'll hear people murmur "calliope-chan" or "one piecsu" in the background all the time when she's in crowded areas

>>73852097
I mean she tried but Gura and Aqua are MIA and Ina is completely checked out, what's the point of trying to force a unit that only she ever actually cared about?

>>73852108
>(you)s
I've seen you on the catalog larping and falseflagging as both sides, consider suicide parasite

>My question specifically ask about Miko years after her comeback
>Retards keep bringing up her returns
Does this thread only care about Miko when they can use her to bash other Holo or what?

>>73852097
I love how this thread had to cope with Holotori Dance blowing Umisea's songs out of the water.

>>73852097
The most recent umisea thing was that comfy camping merch i think

>>73852132
kill yourself ennacuck the botnigger

>>73852151
Why's aruran like this

>>73852161
I didn't

>>73852097
Cover adding Chloe killed it

>>73850689
And you get paid the same or even worst in debt since you get no financial support from Niji

>>73852151
can i get the link to that clip my man? My boy finally got some recognition for her efforts i see

>>73852157
I thought Gura was pretty on board with it, but yeah like you said

>>73852151
when did ao turn black?

>>73852157
>Ina is completely checked out
uh anon did you miss all her Fate and MonHun streams?

>>73852151
>Marine used be known as the "One Piece song" chuuba
>Now it's Mori

none of you fuckers told me that flare is playing with IRyS WTF

>>73852132
all these words just to say you're a retard

>>73852117
She was already one of the most popular members because her clips were some of the main entry points for covid newfags, it just couldn't reflect on her numbers until she came back because obviously she wasn't streaming

>>73852097
poor Marine is now a pekoshill

>>73852159
I care about Miko but only when she puts her butt on my face.

>>73852249
yeah it was hard to miss with the 50 posts mentioning it

>>73852132
Is that a 30k+ bots? I thought the guy only goes around 10k

>>73852249
It's simple anon. Just ask yourself a question.

>Is IRyS streaming
If yes, than she is streaming with Flare and thinking about having sex with Flare.

>>73852266
Their last collab was 2 months ago the fuck are you on about?

>>73852159
>Does this thread only care about x holo when they can use her to bash y Holo or what?
ftfy

Fauna mention

>>73852158
kek I will be here forever making you seethe

>>73852305
Whom?

>>73852157
Ina is probably the one who streamed the most out of Umisea in the past month tho

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>>73852132
You were the one who broke youtube for half an hour didn't you? You sick fuck

>>73852203
I'm sure Gura is on board with the idea, she likes Marine and Aqua, but what good is that if she isn't around to actually promote the unit in any way?
>>73852221
That's why I said checked out instead of missing like the others, she's still streaming but she's clearly not putting much effort into anything that isn't just switching on OBS and playing her boring Fate slop to 5k people.

>>73852321
Biboo

>>73852321
Irys wants to challenge fauna again (kirin)

>>73852321
IRyS

>>73852256
She only spent the 3 months of 2020 not streaming anon. In the first half of 2020 pretty sure her daily numbers were floating in the middle-top of the pack (this is when miComet is created by management). Her daily numbers skyrocketed to the top right after her comeback live at the end of 2020.

>>73852353
Cheers

>>73851354
okay, I'll start but it'll be potentially a hefty tl;dr
>>73851465
>>73851353
on the starting note, I think these guys have a bit of a point while >>73851420 are just plain trolls with like, zero actual idea of what they're talking about
Mori music already started taking a bit of a hit around the release of Unalive and joining UM both overshadowed that while giving the initial releases a good attention buff, but it already signaled some things that'd impact her song growth down the line (side from the YT algo changes which were honestly most impactful on Holo music in general)

the reasons were multiple, but going from the most important to least, I'd say it goes
>lack of consistent musical identity
>lack of quality MVs
>lack of live events
>issues with stricter UM rights management reducing promotion venues in internet spaces
>mixed reception on social media
>less interaction with the general EN scene

>lack of consistent musical identity
biggest "issue" though for some it might be a plus - Mori started with weird hybrid of melodic rap and electroswing, sometimes going into rock/jazz inclusions, it was a sound pretty unique to her but generally what people could expect
starting with UnAlive, which was purposefully experimental and had inclusions of stuff like ballads and idol pop or even some EDM-like tracks, she then had a switch to poppy sounds with some more standard hip-hop inclusions, only to experimental it up again with Sinderella (which has more EDM, city pop, more j-rock focused tracks, trap etc.), to Jigoku 6 which was almost completely divorced from her usual sound, to her single releases (Ketatama, Overkill) which are completely different genres altogether while Suisei you get jpop with powerful vocal, with Kobo you get indopop love songs and with Kiara you get mainly kpoppy vibes
it's interesting but also incredibly schizophrenic if you consider all these changes were jammed in around 3 years when it takes some bands in the mainstream actual decades or more to evolve from one sound to another - and it obviously might not play well with people who are still listening to EoaL or RIP 4 years later

>lack of quality MVs
this is mainly UMs fault due to their decision to spread the budget thin on a spam of low quality releases instead of consolidating the budget, but a high quality or at least an eye catching MV is a MUST in current environment and the best video Mori got in a while (that wasn't one of her covers) had been Overkill, which belongs to a non-loopable genre

>lack of live events
probably a shared problem between UM, Mori and Cover - the second sololive that was supposedly already being planned soon after the first one had been dragging its feet since forever to the point Mori isn't even sure anymore if she will get one at all, though her insistence on pushing for an US event is not helping it at all, and Cover might also be raising objections with their gay queue system so girls with outside help don't get an "unfair" advantage

>issues with stricter UM rights management reducing promotion venues in internet spaces
a lot of Holo music gets popularized thanks to natural organic spread through internet media, but if short makers or Twitch streamers are worried their shit will get muted or taken by UM, that venue dies - you don't see 8-bit drummer doing Mori songs anymore, you see way less covers, you don't see them played on random Twitch streams and now they're also dead on TikTok
that's mindshare death

>mixed reception in social media
Mori became a chew toy for a lot of eternally online Twitter kids and she's a "fair" target cause of her "racist" views, so a lot of people who didn't even listen to a single song start with an impression of "Mori bad" - this is fairly apparent whenever audience that is exposed to her unknowingly actually enjoys the output (recent cases with both Future Island and Go Getters)
her recent output being straddled with stinkers kidz bop tier stuff made on UM demand (Holy Shitto, I'm Greedy, Sneaking) doesn't help

>less interaction with the general EN scene
this will be an unpopular take on /#/, but Mori retreating more into JP professional scene as a non-JP artist really isn't helping her much
the fact that she could win Fillian's vtuber award while not even being around and going against Suisei shows that there's still a level of interest and investment in her as a musician from western fans, but where past Mori probably would still fight for that collab song with Charlie or Numi (and while it does not please me to say it, shit like that would probably pop off like wild), today's Mori is fine with working with Jap Artist #5464768 prompting an "oh, cool" at best from the wider EN scene

her music is still doing well, relatively, especially on streaming platforms that don't run into some of these issues natively (you don't have to worry about MV quality on Spotify or Apple Music, for example), but it's definitely kneecapped by all of the above

>>73852364
>>73852365
Thanks

>holo v holo
>ennacuck the botnigger having a hissy fit because xis life is worthless
yep it's Wednesday

>>73852232
Marine is famous for being Marine, not some collab partner. I don't get why Deadbeats act so insecure and jealous.

>>73852387
the bullet points are enough

>>73852266
If you think about it everyone is Pekoshill

>>73852409
Retard I was being humorous

I'm not reading all that

>>73852387
Someone please run this through an AI summarizer.

>>73852367
>In the first half of 2020
So pre boom dumbass. That's why Miko was so nervous during her break/comeback, she was missing for almost exactly what was arguably the single most important period in Hololive's existence and she was afraid she had missed her chance to catch that wave.

>>73849966
don't let the youtube outage distract you from the fact that the cull is real
can't get negative ccv if all the view counter does is add up total active connections and filter out bots. have to actively apply a negative factor somewhere to adjust the numbers

Only gays will read that

watching AoMari atm. She's too funny. Therefore, Ao is a man. More than Towa
Miko is a man too. Suiboy isn't that funny
>Peko is male
>Gura is male
>Botan is male
>Lamy is male

>>73852266
Do Pekora shitposter just never actually fact check themselves or what? 90% of them time the thing they say related to Pekora are flat out wrong
Pekoshill ironically enough would be Noel, she talk about Pekora more than most Holo I know because JP nousagi track every time another Holo mention Pekora on stream

>>73852443
>Mori music bad
That it

>>73852471
>Males

>>73852467
>>73852443
>>73852440
It’s not even that much you ESL dyslexic fucks

>>73852341
bitch you think I can't circumvent that?

>>73852436
Are you sure? The shitting on Suisei earlier looked a lot like jealousy.

>>73850757
I still remember someone sent a aka supa to Gura, talking about his tauma for getting bullied in school because he's trans, end up Gura only commenting on the bullying.
I think he sent another SC later on apologizing.

>>73852445
Uh ok, thanks for agreeing to my points?

>>73852493
>That it
YEP DEFINITELY ESL HOURS

>>73852510
We're not that as invested in Mori as you and you're not some authority on the ongoings of vtuber music.

>>73852418
I disagree, the bullet points alone would be way to open to interpretation when a lot of the issues are more clear cut in a deeper analysis

>>73852562
that wasn't me (the author of the post), anonchama

>>73852510
Tell em, ESLbro. dyslexic fucks.

>>73852606
made me kek

>>73852387

helmite...

>>73852631
I don't get the vtuber analogy here

>>73852409
>>73852516
I dunno if you're just shitposting but he's referring to when Kronii thought Ahoy was a One Piece song.

>>73852631
Helmite should really not compare anything vtuber related to kpop. Kpop is infinitely more petty and drama filled.

>>73852132
WTF Cover is botting every single youtuber on the planet!?

>>73852650
>>73852663
I'm not sure if that is his point

>>73852010
all fake type songs are the fucking same, the only reason Doggy God Street and What An Amazing Swing did well is because Hololive haven't realized how samey they all are. Now that they have nobody is listening to Chloe or Marine's new ones.

why is IRyS killing faunas...

>>73852631
Not really, kpop male groups also has to dance and sing at the same time

>>73852696
>because Hololive haven't realized
*because Hololive fans hadn't realized

>>73852679
Kpoop girl groups and guy groups appeal to the same audience: sisters. And how do the sisters in vtubing treat guys and girls? Exactly the same as in kpoop
I guess that is his point

First NijiEN joining VCR. Hope Mori talks to her!

>>73852387
Ah yes I’m sure a song with musical Titan Nihmune would have really “popped off”.

>>73852387
Thanks for the detailed answer anon

>>73852132
>Cover botted Phasechuba too
Yagoo should stop being this charitable holy fuck, no wonder the investors are pulling out

>>73852696
HOLY ESL!
I lose braincells by just reading it

>>73852730
Networking? Hahahaha! 3 views for life!

>>73852730
What timezone is that

>>73852730
>”EN”

>>73852657
That doesn't change the fact they were shitting on Suisei's MV.

>>73852730
Using ao to get to the first army. She's smart but boring bitch is a boring bitch.

>>73852740
NTA but that is amazing views on music for an indie so I dont get your point?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2gUgNhuPb4

Oh cool, perms. This is going to become a flavor of the week game 100%

>>73852730
uhhh, SEAbro?

>>73849969
Tits too big

>>73852097
They raped the SOVL out of it adding the gold digger.

>>73852761
don't call meroco like that, she has some streams being 4view...

>>73852801
I don't follow Niji much but I think Kanae got a bit buffed by it (or not, idk Niji numbers)

Irys gold if biboo didn't got botted, shame.

Bae doesn't seem very appreciative of being invited to VCR. She's really spitting in the face of the JP scene. She'll never be invited to JP things again with this kind of attitude.

>marine and friend are saving Ao
>Ao is enabling stars and nijisanjien
Like seriously what the fuck

>>73852387
I think one big thing you're forgetting is that Mori's initial brand was of this "underground reaper-rapper". Just doing things on the down-low, songs about her own personal struggles or just coming from "her" in general.
e.g. Live Again and EoAL serve as a sort of goodbye to her past, Dead beats was a homage to her cute dorky awkward comedic side, Off with their heads serves as both an inspiration and a callout to VTweeters who don't put out any content, Red was an amalgamation of all her feelings and insecurities towards her career etc.

Just from getting into UMG itself, I think her brand sort of shifted in the heads of most of her listeners. When she made it into a label, she was no longer "underground". She was "one of the big guys".
This had two effects.
One : Her "underground" brand people would no longer want to listen to her "sell out music". It's unconscious, and most people won't express it, but the feeling will be there. Which means a lot of her core audience would stop listening to her music.
Two : Signing up to a label means you've "made it", meaning criticizing her music was now far more "acceptable". Shitting on up and coming underground artists isn't really a good look, but shitting on mainstream artists? Everyone does it.

Problem is, she wasn't really "mainstream" level yet that she could talk through that hate and perform anyway. And her songs, like you said, did have a change in style.
But I think the worst problem was that the lyrics stopped being reflections of "her", and just generic stuff that's found in a thousand other songs. This is what a lot of people /here/ mean when they say the SOVL was gone from her music.

>>73852931
>saving
nah, ao is being their hostess

>>73852631
This dude is an unironic incel. This is your hero, /vt/?

Lol got a random video of a cute girl singing from 10 years ago on my recs.
Neal is a doxfaggot

>>73852931
regloss was always designed to leech holo popularity and funnel it to homos
funneling to nijis is unforgivable though

Which faggot that said IRyS is already on Iceborne? She's just got into Elder Recess (HR).

>>73852010
Marine is not a good singer so she can't make a song popular. An MV being popular is a totally different thing from a song being popular.

>>73852533
got a timestamp or clip?

>>73852944
That makes no sense when none of that affected Suisei.

Fauna had fun censoring the nipples

>>73852961
helmite is becoming more pathetic and I'm glad people are noticing

>>73852978
>funneling to niji
fucking kek, anon my sides are gone

>>73852987
No one here actually watches IRyS streams

>>73852387
I don't know about other anons but I dislike holoEN doing japanese covers/ songs despite being EN. It was interesting at first but I find myself not playing the songs more than once.

>>73852944
TLDR her music got worse

Isegye Idol official channel has more views than Niji official

>>73852797
Look at the time anon.
It's good but not "musical titan" level of good for a 2 years old song.

>>73853008
>he forgot about raden and niji joker already

>>73852970
I’m getting assmongold in mine now, the fuck

>>73853005
Suisei never got into a label that left her without creative control of her own music, so of course none of this shit affected her.
Why do you think she strictly has a "no label" policy even now?