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Cocktail for two Edition

>What is /warkop/ about?
A place to unite and talk in-depth about behind-the-scenes Indonesian VTubers in general. We also talk about the Indonesian VTuber market, whether it be rumors, numbers, demographics, auditions, debuts, graduations, etc.

>Useful Links
https://schedule.nasgorest.my.id
https://vtuber.asia
https://pvc.moe

>Songs Playlist
>Original
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYEx1V3dXHVu4rjFNrfxIB_LDfsVPaL-x
>Cover
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYEx1V3dXHVv-Z91qV4N8tkvgtmjih09_
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYEx1V3dXHVtLso4wCLg5gnU7sz1BMhf2
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYEx1V3dXHVthbz39xGj5Idl1PxuFZxHl
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYEx1V3dXHVtDWQ7ttCmr-Gx6L1a4aD-Q

>Divegrass (Football) Team
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//warkop/

Previous Thread: >>73647438

>> No.73850030

It's Wednesday, so have a new bread! First thing first, the news!

>> No.73850124

>>73850030
The new generation from Re:Memo finally have a debut time, watch them this Friday, starting from 7 p.m. WIB!
- Marin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2VY5AmZ1yM
- Chiara https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV9gfGIKnOk
- Leo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3NZ9Fbec2U
- Rimu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVldSZHcoKw

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>>73850030
In other news, Yorukaze Production Valorant invitational is going to be held this Sunday, and here's the competing players
https://twitter.com/YkzProduction/status/1780204744319087064
https://twitter.com/YkzProduction/status/1780204996216357025
https://twitter.com/YkzProduction/status/1780205247702446427
https://twitter.com/YkzProduction/status/1780205499536887880
https://twitter.com/YkzProduction/status/1780205751224406301
https://twitter.com/YkzProduction/status/1780206002367016962
https://twitter.com/YkzProduction/status/1780206253928534220
https://twitter.com/YkzProduction/status/1780206505742237768

>> No.73850386

>>73850030
>>73850298
Speaking of Yorukaze, it seems that one of their talents is graduating next month on May 13th. Most of the archive, excluding some videos and cover songs are going to be privated
https://twitter.com/YkzProduction/status/1779849656572199130

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>>73849819
We're so back Shanbros.
https://www.youtube.com/live/PxfC5Z8wViQ?si=UyDyZuPAh6_DCwHF

>> No.73850572

>>73850030
Another unpleasant news, V4LOUR announced their separation with Akuseru Reion, citing a difference in vision and mission. Reion will continue his activities as indie VTuber
https://twitter.com/v4lour_/status/1780438537516585005

>> No.73850684

>>73850030
Another debut news, Neisa Voetius, who previously announced that will be taking managerial duty of EVREN community, will be debuting her 2.0 model on April 27th at 7 p.m. WIB. There's no waiting room yet, but you can check her Twitter for to keep updated
https://twitter.com/neisavoetius/status/1780216259696861677

>> No.73850816

>>73850030
Lastly, as the other Anon has said, Shannon Lynn will be debuting her proper L2D model on April 21st at 7 p.m. WIB. for more details and waiting room, you can check it here >>73850570

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>>73850030
Whoops, some extra news that I forgot to mention related to Comifuro. It seems that there's several corpo that's doing collaboration with CF18. The first one is MAHA5, who just mentioned that there'll be something new there
https://twitter.com/maha5official/status/1780153072112767362
Interestingly, said tweet is QRT-ed by Rendy Yusuf of RENZ Entertainment (previously known to manage talent such as Yori)

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73851130

VOTE FOR OUR OGEYCALIBUR REP NOW!
https://poal.me/h6btby
https://poal.me/h6btby
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As of this post, our rep it's going to be either Amarynn or Komandan

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>>73850030
>>73851072
Another corpo that will be collabing is AKA Virtual, who opens a submission form for a circle/booth/table highlights, that will be featured on their YouTube streams. If (You) want to promote your circle/booth/table, this might be a good(?) way. You can check more details here
https://twitter.com/comifuro/status/1779801535113027603

>> No.73851535

Aliza vlog freetalk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrqCEx-KQpk
Ririsu ASMR RP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IKsqRlRuAY
Kaede Honor of Kings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dagahUkizkU

>> No.73852483

>>73850570
PLEASE BE SEX
PLEASE BE SEX
PLEASE BE SEX

>> No.73852523
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STREAM HELP
https://youtu.be/50Ura_ZcSvY
https://youtu.be/50Ura_ZcSvY
https://youtu.be/50Ura_ZcSvY

>> No.73852813

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUwJBRUIWow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUwJBRUIWow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUwJBRUIWow

How was it /warkop/? Is it bad or good? I see some fan favorites in the credits there (Farhan, Sagi), but idk. Personally it's an okay song, a little bit ambitious but because of the mix it ultimately fell a little bit flat rather than grandiose. Also for some reason it reminds me of Revue Starlight

>> No.73853000

>>73852813
I don't like it, they should've just focused on making a good and catchy songs instead of trying to make something grandiose. It's not celebratory enough to warrant that kind of song, especially not with just 3 members.

Maybe if for next year's 5th anniv with full members (maybe including ID4 too) then yeah it could fit. But this is way too random for me.

>> No.73853344
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73853344

Zoey Kawi Yandere Sisters ASMR
https://youtu.be/zVJOybSomuk
Kawi's channel April 19, 2024 11:45 PM WIB
https://youtu.be/MaIEOD0QfLg
Zoey's channel April 20, 2024 09:00 PM WIB

>> No.73853478

>>73852813
> Revue Starlight
I can see why you'd say that instead of Produce48.
Also, a bit of Erwin Gutawa flavor elsewhere.

>>73852523
ok Helpanon

>> No.73853481

>>73853344
Indonesian version in Kawi's channel
English version in Zoey's channel

>> No.73853894

I don't where else to post this, but I am forever mad that noone ever clipped Mika Melatika's ukulele unarchived from 2 years ago where she sang Eyes Blue like the Atlantic. I wish I was at home when it happened. At least it's that more special cause I only ever heard it once. I hope when she reincarnates she does a ukulele stream with requests

>> No.73854158

>>73853478
>Spoiler
Yeah, I'm not really that familiar with that, so any references to them is completely lost on me

>> No.73854991

Agar translating 3DS Kirby game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utoUiugPWwk

>> No.73856353

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPsoDQ343OE
Hmmm, with these clues what do you expect from Re:Mem gen4?

>> No.73857132

>>73856353
So, Echi was abusive to that phantom thief girl, and caring to the other two. Also, kinda surprised that she's straight up telling people that Leo is most likely not a male (so it's gonna be a tomboy?). I thought they're gonna keep the gimmick right up until the character design reveal

>> No.73858423

Nanami GTAV RP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh_7CpyTAY0
Nyai ngobrol bentar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VJpnEk9bio

>> No.73858715

>>73853894
Not even ragtag?

>> No.73858925

Mbak Tono geming koleb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1HZ5i_DQCQ

>> No.73859074

ZONA X SOL.4CE Content Warning Collab
>Elya https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdGr5vU9MiM
>Key https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6tPGbVQ5Qs
>Souta https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWKOwVpC-80
>Kei https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltDf4c-xZoQ
>Arion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZGlteaKhHA
>Garin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEjQuKmhgjg

>> No.73859113

Nima Draws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkQjEXOjV1M
Lea That's Not My Neighbour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a3BLwJU5Tg

>> No.73859419

>>73858715
i scrolled through everything between november 2021 and april 2022 and didn't see it. I remember it snowing outside and it definitely was before april 2022. I also checked nyaa too, nothing there

>> No.73859450

Woah I got recommended a live from Mikazuki Arion and he's getting 4.8k viewers, I just learned that he can pull that kind of numbers. I thought only Harris can do that. That's even higher than non-collab and non-horror Kobo streams.

I guess ID market isn't in decline? People just got bored of Holo ID.

>> No.73859498

>>73859419
Have you searched or asked her discord fan channel?

>> No.73859942

>>73853344
>>73853481
It's kind of interesting seeing Zoey is dipping her toes a little bit from time to time into local market. Is there a long term reason for it, or is she's just want to try being an Indo chuuba?

>> No.73860075

Cia Freetalk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4i65bZ8-rg

>> No.73860169

>>73859942
Not sure. She speaks English and identifies herself as an EN vtuber. But she interacts with some Indo chuba lately. Her first cover MV is Indonesian version of Oshi no Ko.
Did you know that Kaela (Hololive) came (not a raid) to her chat last week? She told Zoey to GSH when Zoey was fangirling her lol

>> No.73860178

>>73859942
desperation

>> No.73860227

>>73859450
>People just got bored of Holo ID.
Nah, the key is malechuuba. Unlike EN, Indo doesn't have popular female streamers that aren't whore. So when people realized Kobo is not Om Om in secret they stop watching her.

>> No.73860262

>>73859450
>5K now
Can this beat Kobo's 6k+ content warning with mega buff Windah collab? We need to bring this to /#/

>> No.73860348

>>73859498
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nijisanji/comments/18smre3/comment/kvf6665/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

>The server is closed and archived now

I fell to my knees. I need to get in as apparently they had an archive of everything. Not sure if it includes unarchived VODs

>> No.73860509

>>73859942
I'm melting whenever she says sayang banget sama kamu

>> No.73860753

>>73859942
she might actually a big menherra now since it makes Absolutely zero sense

>> No.73861086

Pirrou ETS2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq3gXOuPloQ
Uchi Cat Mario
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGylyZugxnI
Sierra GTAV RP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Wq_eEnZ4xg
Velary Palo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9h67o6Ek1E
Rika Spooky Jump Scare Mansion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AOeH-hnyOw
Gekkan shoujo daisy-kun with Alia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCRUuDDyEQ4

>> No.73861234

>>73860348
Closed? As in people can't get in? Why would they do that? They could just make it read only mode as a museum or memorial.
Discord is the best for archiving, some of the channels are even more comprehensive than ragtag. Because people and the bots archive things live, while ragtag can get affected by how youtube handle its servers.

>> No.73862771

njess freetalk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsGvAA43vkw
Special Vanta Stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n6TtSAzELA
Hyu Darkest Dungeon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMN9htxi7VI
Ethel DND
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdQrQeYxsDc

>> No.73863067

>>73859450
i appreciate how Harris and Arion are free from retarded drama. hope it stays that way, but i'm curious how they are not swarmed by leeching femchuubas (fem collabs are rare), looking at their big numbers.

if they want to make it even bigger i think they should have 3 membership tiers
1st tier for bocils and bros
2nd tier for the BFE sisters
3rd for the male & female elite fans
i'm impressed that AKA virtual / solace could catch up with HoloID in a span of one year. are their managers that good? please transfer those managers to Holo, yagoo should trade Gita for them

>> No.73863107

>>73861234
might be that. I couldn't find a non expired invite link and the main NijiEN discord server doesn't have an invite in the related server list

>> No.73863321

https://youtu.be/agWIFLOx4Ec
Zoey Karaoke

>> No.73863489

>>73863067
>i'm curious how they are not swarmed by leeching femchuubas (fem collabs are rare)
Men can hold their lust better than women

>> No.73863531

>>73863067
>Harris and Arion are free from retarded drama
Ehh, not really imo, a couple of months ago Harris nearly had to make a serious post thx to fake accounts
https://twitter.com/HarrisCainee/status/1742932829401653593
https://twitter.com/HarrisCainee/status/1743129845922734552

>> No.73863757

>>73863531
i hardly call that a drama (catfight between chuubas or chubbas vs their fans/haters)

>> No.73863765

Nay Deeptalk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrOU_hh_KPA

>> No.73863824

>>73863107
If you're that desperate you can ask around EN channels whose Mika often did collab with. Some of them may know the mods or how to get in.

>> No.73864767

>>73859450
> People just got bored of Holo ID
AAIIIIEEEEEEE, GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER GITA! DO YOU WANT TO TURN THIS BRANCH TO EX-HOLOID?!?!

>> No.73865104

Ronda wan!

>> No.73865196

Happy 3rd Anniv Kawi!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNVvqQvsTSc

>> No.73865387

>>73864767
PA chan to replace Gita

>> No.73866301

Phinia Far Cry 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkidlD9AXys

>> No.73866920

>>73865387
nope, they need a bussiness strategis, or even a better content consultants
just look at any official holo id channel content, is that number an indication of success? is there any holo id event that memorable to you?

>> No.73866984

>>73865104
sibuk genjot deisex

>> No.73867146

you know what? i'm glad that Yume-friendly malechuubas are the top of ID male market.
it seems like Arion is also a brotuber on top of being female-friendly
the role model for ID malechuubas is not the StarsID that's full of pests who'll constantly collabing with HoloID.
the ID male market is not ruined
i knew it since one year ago, the rise is inevitable

>> No.73867331

>>73866920
Their 17-an event was really good, IMO. They did a local song cover (so far the choices is one my ok list), and a company-wide event in Minecraft. They even did a mini drama two years ago.
I kinda wish they do Ramadan/Eid type of event as well, but I guess there's some reservations against them because they don't want to be perceived as pandering to one religion, even though Lebaran and Mudik itself is pretty much enjoyed by any Indonesian people regardless of their religions

>> No.73867437

i wonder if AKA virtual could replicate Solace but female.
the closest alternative to HoloID are re:memories and maybe JKT48v, but why they didn't take off as fast as AKA's Solace?
is there anyone here who watch JKT48v and Re:memories? please give me your insight

>> No.73867848

Why the hell isn't Kobo an artist channel yet? Assuming that 60% of her listeners are Indonesian her MV would've been able to reach the top 40 in the Indonesian Music Video chart

https://charts.youtube.com/charts/TopVideos/id/weekly

>> No.73868188

Echi GTAV RP
https://youtu.be/y9bD2XEXuR0?si=upupd7Tt1DJ_lKfM

>> No.73868244

>>73867437
I think it has to do with personal branding of the individual chuubas before they joined SOL4CE. Harris was already famous in BFE chuuba scene, Mika was mistaken as Zen and rode that momentum to grow, and there's Gin and Souta as well.
As for 48v and Re:Memo, I can speak a little bit for the latter. Their growth are definitely on a different scale than Holo, but there will always be a spearhead in each generation (Chloe for Gen 2, and Echi for Gen 3).
I think during the local management round table, they also mentioned that they already found out a way to make a talent a spearhead, so it is to be expected that their latest debuts (Gen 4) will also have one.
The question now, is how to do a trickle down effect on subs growth from the spearhead to the rest of the talents? Because honestly I think it's a better way to grow their talents, compared to ... say, force them to grow at equal rate.

>> No.73869048

>>73867146
didn't know you're still /here/ warkop's femanon

>> No.73869171

>>73867848
Anon, literally the number 1 isn't an artist channel, you don't need to be an artist channel to be in the music list / trending. Blame Kobo / Gita / UMJ (heck, all of them!!) for not putting the MV in music category.

>> No.73869248

>>73868244
What's the point of getting a new spearhead just for your old speadhead to did a Gura immediately?

>> No.73869405

>>73853344
>RP ASMR
how original
>With Kawi+versi Indo
daring today aren't we
>>73859942
maybe she want to get her Indos audience back. I don't see any of them on her channel anymore since then, only some very common name that i know aren't Indos ig

>> No.73869638

>>73868244
they have a very good scout then
>they already found out a way to make a talent a spearhead
interesting can i have a summary?
>how to do a trickle down effect on subs growth from the spearhead to the rest of the talents?
you mean growing the Rememo brand and create the rememo box?
well for the latter it's difficult to create a box with a small number of people
as for the former first they need to know their target demographics. but rememo is a mixed gender agency so idk how well they gonna handle that.

>> No.73869856

>>73869638
i forgot something important
i suspect the main reason why people are hesitating to leave HoloID and search for the alternative is this :
THE HOLOID FAN COMMUNITY
so yeah rememo shouln't forget to foster their own community

>> No.73870072

>>73869405
>I don't see any of them on her channel anymore since then
What do you mean by "then"?

>> No.73870855

>>73869405
There are many Indonesian audience in her chat. And they have been there since her first stream last year.

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>>73869171
RC Music isn't an artist channel, but they put their channel under the music category. The only way an entertainment channel can get into the charts is to switch their category to music or become an artist channel and switching her channel category would be way too risky for her other content
>not putting the MV in music category
but they did

>> No.73871108

>>73870944
how do you see that?

>> No.73871552

>>73870944
Huh, okay interesting, how do you become an artist channel?

>> No.73871734

>>73869405
>daring
wdym?

>> No.73872673

>>73871108
It's encoded in the YouTube metadata, you can just look it up manually by using inspect element and searching for genre

>> No.73873221

Naze GTAV RP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyxkGIjWHhc

>> No.73874913

>>73867331
Yeah Ramadhan were a missed opportunity considering how big that season is even for mainstream media

>> No.73876944

sundul

>> No.73878612

Any updates from the ongoing genesix yab?

>> No.73879438

bump

>> No.73881808

last bump from me

>> No.73882847

https://twitter.com/MichiMochievee
The ghost is back

>> No.73883549

>>73882847
Who?

>> No.73885870

Wouldn't that be repetitive anon?
Also imo that's the best gen song holoID ever had, although that's easy to say considering the composition of each holoID gen

>> No.73885941

>>73885870
Meant to answer >>73853000 btw

>> No.73887494

>>73882847
That took a while

>> No.73888566

>>73878612
Unfortunately not. At this point, the upper management is probably already abandoning the ship, but God knows if there's something in the fancord

>> No.73889472

>>73885870
>best gen song holoID ever had
Hi-15 exist and it's not even close. It's actually my least favorite one, it's IMO another case of Farhan trying to make something fancy and cool but failed on the simple task of creating a good and loopable song (it should be more ID:entity and less Reflect, IMO).

If it's for a theme song like Parade for holofes, maybe it's good. But it's just unnecessary grandiose for me. Sekian 2 keping perak dari saya.

>> No.73889618

>>73869248
That was true in case of Chloe, and I did have a cynical take about Echi a few months back, but ... idk. I feel optimistic now that the new gen is close to debut, and Echi is still as active as ever.

>> No.73889788

>>73885941
>>73889472
This is a weird one for me, this song is the first one from holoID where i really like the JP version and hate the ID version. They ID lyrics just feels wrong, idk how to explain it, it's... kinda a different vibe? IDK.how to.explain it.or.if.it's just me.

>> No.73889931

>>73882847
woot, israel?

>> No.73890022

>>73889788
I mean it make sense since it was a JP produced song so you can say that the main version is indeed the JP one

>> No.73890706

>>73889472
Speaking of group songs, what's your opinion on the others? Which gen has the best group song?

>> No.73891636

>>73890022
Anon, it's composed by Farhan and Written by Datenkou, both are Indonesian. It's an ID song, nothing "JP produced" in it just because Cover is a JP company.

Meanwhile, Hi-15 is absolutely 100% a Japan produced song, the ID version was just a translation by Hiroaki Kato, and it's somehow sound better than the ID version of this new song (not gonna say the name, it's stupidly hard). You know it's bad when an ID version of a JP produced song somehow feels natural than an ID produced song.

>> No.73891764

>>73890706
Hi-15 ID > Hi-15 JP >>>Save our hearts JP > Slap by step JP > Save our hearts ID > Dramatic xvilsomething JP >>>>> Slap by step ID >>>>>>>>>>>> Dramatic xvilsomething ID

>> No.73891868

>>73891764
And if you include the other group song
ID:entity ID >>>> ID:entity JP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi-15 ID > Hi-15 JP >>>Save our hearts JP > Slap by step JP > Save our hearts ID > Dramatic xvilsomething JP >>>>> Slap by step ID >>>>>>>>>>>> Dramatic xvilsomething ID>>>>>>>Bokura ga kuru jara

>> No.73891958

>>73891636
I thought you were talking about HI-15 hence my JP produced comment, but turns out you're talking about the new one lol

>> No.73892342

>>73891958
Ah i see lol. No i really like Hi-15, both JP and ID. The ID version somehow sounds good and fitting, idk how to explain, it has charm even tho you can clearly tell it's a translation.

IDK, they somehow manage to make it works, i think because the lyrics match the music so it fits.

>> No.73892519

>>73892342
I don't speak Japanese, but probably because the JP version already has a good writing and Kato translate it well. Now i wonder how dramatic xviltration sounds to Japanese, does it sound good or if they can still hear the weird writings since for us it sounds good because we don't understand kek.

>> No.73892793

>>73889618
I just want Chloe back :(

>> No.73893525

>>73892342
I didn't like Hi-15 at first but it grows on me.
For new listerners that song sounds a bit weird because Indonesian is mouthful, it has too many syllables in one words, so it's difficult to translate foreign songs to Indonesian. It still sounds weird if you think about it but the song is so catchy it sometimes randomly pops up in my mind.

>> No.73894633

>>73869856
I can't leave HoloID despite I want to check other vtubers because I just don't have the time to. I mean Hololive box itself is already full of entertainments, whenever I have the time and want to consume vtuber contents, I always check the HoloID first, then Hololive as a whole, and by the time I want to finish for the day I still haven't consume all that Hololive can offer.

How would someone like me leave the Hololive box? Well I was once stopped watching them, back in 2021 when I was so fed up with their contents, HoloID pandered too much to EN fans, Hololive also getting stale because Covid prevented various things like 3D debuts or concerts or off collabs. Also back then Niji ID was so interesting to me they can fill the "friends hanging out" vibe that I lost because of the pandemics.
So maybe some blunders or stagnation would make me leave again, or other vtubers just so interesting they makes me check on them.

>> No.73894729

>>73893525
Both Hi-15 and Save our hearts are mouthfull, but the general playful vibe makes it charming, on top of much better performed as well (well, it's hard to have a good group song when you have kaela in your gen...).

They definitely should have make a simpler song for ID3. There's a clear lack of coordination in here.

>> No.73894798

>>73894729
>but the general playful vibe makes it charming
it = Hi-15 to clarify

>> No.73896104

>>73869856
I think the smol corpos like remem, livium, digikagi already has their own smol but tightknit community, meanwhile i'm curious about AKA tho like imo their fandom are all over the place and doesn't look cohesive, how do you grow a brand where your community are splitted everywhere?

>> No.73896174

>>73894633
reading your post made me realize that HoloID already reached the "maximum" level of recognition to the point that it's hard for other female vtubers to escape from under their shadows.
unlike other Agencies, HoloID don't need to worry about attracting tourists and quality applicants/auditionee

which is why HoloID need to focus on a new direction : making a lot of money/milking their fans

>> No.73896742

>>73896174
Is it the time already? I'm asking since some argued to me that ID doesn't have enough members to complete their own holobox so they still need some debuts maybe up to ID5 considering what happened in EN before they can start milking up

>> No.73896941

>>73896104
i think AKA is more of a NIjiID than NijiID ever was. they don't need a cohesive "AKA" fanbase, the Solace minibox itself is sufficient. it will just cause friction within like luxiem fans vs lazusdia fans.
it's better to focus on making company's large scale events like NijiJP and organize the rest of the vtubers like cae, ave, akemi and airi into post-debut miniboxes/units like ROF-MAO

>> No.73897064 [DELETED] 

>>73896174
i think AKA is more of a NIjiID than NijiID ever was.
they don't need a cohesive "AKA" fanbase.
the Solace minibox itself is sufficient.
it will just cause friction within like luxiem fans vs lazusdia fans.

it's better to focus on making company's large scale events like NijiJP and organize the rest of the vtubers like cae, ave, akemi and airi into post-debut miniboxes/units like ROF-MAO

>> No.73897609

>>73896742
the problem with making HoloIDbox is Kobo's IOP tourists can't trickle down to Kobo's genmates and Kobo's senpais (they mainly speaks in english). is it too late to accelerate? i think so
but i do think HoloID need another vtubers who speak mainly in indo
>start milking up
the longer they wait the fans would leave. especially if they keep making drama

>> No.73899524

>>73896742
Are you referring to the various brand deals (Super Groupies, Omocat, HYTE, etc) that's happening in EN? I don't think that can be applied for ID

>> No.73899623

>>73899524
I was talking about how Advent debuts has activated holobox for EN

>> No.73901270

BUMP WOY, PEJ 10

>> No.73901311

>>73899623
Oh, then I think it's not the case of needing talents that's more varied. It's definitely the direction from management, and can only be solved if there's someone else that take charge in ID beside Gita

>> No.73901347

Speaking of accelerate, I really hope digikagi and JKT48V will get a new gen soon, the momentum seems right to do it now albeit for a different reason since for digikagi, this new gen can act as a cpr to restore hyp towards their chuubas while for JKT48V, a new gen will help add more activities to their ecosystem and keeping their fans more engaged with them

>> No.73901664

>>73899623
come to think of it, my nature oshi never have collabed with anyone outside of holo at all
and her oshi is sharkie who have never collabed with holo-outsiders too
coincidence?!?! is holobox a bad thing?

>> No.73902133

>>73901347
don't forget JOT is kinda worse management than gita at promising something

>> No.73902714

>>73896742
Agree, they need 1 or 2 more gen. What irk me is when they have a perfect sandbox game to play together but only 2 or 3 members that play it frequently. So they rarely interact with each other.
>>73897609
Not really, some of kobokers do watch zeta and kaela but not their senpai.

>> No.73902722

>>73901347
For DigiKagi, maybe go back to debuting 1 talent strategy? I know, Lock Breaker is not a complete mess, but I feel that they got bigger luck doing that (i.e.: Alenka) instead of debuting multiple talents

>> No.73902730

>>73896941
>>73896104
> i think AKA is more of a NIjiID than NijiID ever was.
Well put, anon.

Also to add, AKA kinda did some "get-together" for the fandom of each of their chuubas before. even the ones not singing the theatrical ( https://youtu.be/-M4Pe0YzYCQ?si=Eb4YOmCDPI9ymLkY ) gets put into gimmick stream segments or at least gets a cameo on the MV. I'd say as a fan, #AKAClueS23 was a big success toget the fans together

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSprGhQSaTB0MoJj4hCZ20oRLquNwGVE_&si=WebdY4WQmn721_mG

>> No.73903830

>>73902730
Eeh, I wouldn't say a big success ... Not much word of mouth going around at that time

>> No.73904348

Aneki karaoke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvfRYDfReGQ

>> No.73906059

>>73902714
>Not really, some of kobokers do watch zeta and kaela but not their senpai.
Why is that? Can't ID3 fans relate with ID1 or ID2?

>> No.73906379

>>73906059
Just like JP1, the newer talents are just... straight up better

>> No.73907666

>>73906059
Not everyone is a filthy DD, anonchama

>> No.73908641

Lia's Freetalk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BfHgBfturs

>> No.73908830

>>73902714
>but only 2 or 3 members that play it frequently
So do you think a mandatory collab will solve the problem?

>> No.73910274

Non Dira istirahat siang bareng aku yuk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhCbrusgQbM

>> No.73911616 [DELETED] 
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73911616

>>73885870
Picrel
>>73882847
>>73889931
https://twitter.com/MichiMochievee/status/1780088574416916557
She isn't even trying to hide it at all kek

>> No.73911722
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73911722

>>73885870
Picrel
>>73882847
>>73889931
https://twitter.com/MichiMochievee/status/1780088574416916557
She isn't even trying to hide it at all kek

>> No.73911727

>>73901664
Depends on who you're asking. Unicorns will say Holobox is the best thing since sliced bread, while those who enjoy male-female and imbalance collab will swear their life to tear down that garden wall

>> No.73912653

>>73892793
Be patient, and pray that she'll be back to us again, lest it becomes Lumi 2.0

>> No.73914304

Phinia freetalk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Me8vfFXgjs
Verin morning brew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLDauq08G8Y

>> No.73914751

Cai HSR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt_kxonzBKc

>> No.73915760

Rini Akinator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSOTxKR2OMs

>> No.73916708

Non Dira Main gim bareng yuk, kalian semua bisa ikut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmzFp2Er8o4

>> No.73917377
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73917377

>>73911722
Roru rumao
This getting way too obvious lol

>> No.73917873

>>73917377
well, everyone kinda expect her anyway, might as well go all out

>> No.73917891

>>73917377
>>73917873
She wants her paypigs back

>> No.73917962

>>73917891
should be easy really, they're all non-indos and she'll be mainly on twitch now, i'll be surprised if in a year or less she's not the biggest indo twitch streamer

>> No.73918190

>>73917962
Who's currently biggest Indo Twitch streamer, flesh and virtual?

>> No.73918308

>>73918190
https://twitchtracker.com/channels/viewership/indonesian

>> No.73918631

>>73918308
Oh, huh, Venesha is in the top 20, so does Shannon
>Mochi
Wouldn't Twitch qualifies her as an EN streamer?

>> No.73918858

>>73918631
>Wouldn't Twitch qualifies her as an EN streamer?
She should be, but idk if there's other Indonesian ENstreamer on twitch so..

>> No.73918964

>>73918190
The biggest that i know is him
https://twitchtracker.com/prxf0rsaken
>5 average
she needs to beat Kobo (and Kaela) and become the biggest ID chuuba first, so sadly this anon >73917962 is just another case of nijiniggers huffing a full tank of copium
>>73918308
That's only counted people that used the Indonesian tags, and as you can see not every Indos use it. In fact most Indo streamers on twitch is EN only, and a lot of them only have English tag. That's not even close to the real top Indo streamers on twitch.

>> No.73919077

>>73918964
>5k average
Okay yeah, Mika is not gonna be the biggest Indo twitch streamers without a miracle lmao.

>> No.73919152

>>73919077
>>73918964
tbf this is twitch's numbers, and they're more inflated than youtube (i think youtube doesn't count aka "cull" more aggressively, like you can't open another tab while leaving a stream in the background).

but even with that in mind, that's a higher average than someone like shylily so that's not easy to beat.

>> No.73919498

>>73911722 (me)
Picrel meant for >>73883549

>> No.73919583

>>73919077
how much the usual avg for other vshojos for comparison?

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73919616

>>73919498
Too late but thanks, anon. I already found out who she is in the catalog.
CAPTCHA: SXSKA (Sex with Siska)

>> No.73919950

>>73919583
>Apricot
1700
>Geega
2500
>Matara Kan aka NotNina
3100
>Kuro aka NotMysta
1500
>Melody
1700
>Zentreya
4500
>Ironmouse
8000

>> No.73920043

>>73919950
How much do you think Mochi will rank up there in let's say 3months from now? I'd say it'd be great if she can get 1800

>> No.73920816

>>73906059
ID1 and ID2 are just not good
Risu and Moona are great singers but their streams are basic as fuck
Iofi is incredibly plain, she's also supposed to be the artist of the bunch but her drawings are not impressive
Ollie is forever depressed
Reine is too rich to care about her fans
Anya is good, but she's JP

>> No.73920892

>>73902714
>some of kobokers
IOP tourists, anon
IOP : indonesian only people, people with low comprehension of english language. Kobo had a lot of them before

>> No.73920973

>>73919950
>male in "vshojo"

>> No.73921251

https://youtu.be/RVgbylYiNhU?si=yocWgQsL6iuGY4Kn
This is so weird, she's not even debuted yet she already got clipfags using her name for their channel, at the very least you can expect she'll be more loved than ever before but still I'm not used to see this kind of hyp to any solo debut in ID vtuber history

>> No.73921383

>>73919950
To add more, I remember Henya's above Zen but below Mouse and Haruka's above Froot but below Geega (I don't remember about Hime).
>>73920043
NTA but I agree with you it would be great if her number could be stabilized around Froot's number and looking at how Matara can increase her number after she migrated to twitch, I'd say the odd is kinda good for her

>> No.73921464

Key LoL
https://youtu.be/m7tBCsiVFNM?si=i1vl8DvPPVAAvfhH

>> No.73922312

Pirrou Skibidi Toilet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTeHuGPfp-g
Maya Stardew Valley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1UxbcXGlIU

>> No.73923525

>>73921383
Yeah, I'm very optimistic that she could do better on twitch, she's built to be there

>> No.73924203

Miki Awaits (You)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twxh5_ewRQY&pp=0AUB
Nima HSR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugMY1ZwYKBM

>> No.73924815

Mika Mobile Legends
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnM8cPchlTE

>> No.73924819

Ave Eiyuden Chronicle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBHOSvqTTMk
Kaze Parasocial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCO0ff3vEPk
Chizu Donafet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CplDhs1mliw

>> No.73925964

>>73924819
>Ave Eiyuden Chronicle
Oh, didn't realize the game is launched already

>> No.73926907

Nyai The Closing Shift
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQGIY91guiE
Cupang HSR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY26THH9Imw
Loizi GTAV RP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Fw6tHEAJYc
Futsuri Free Talk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ilppptW9O4

>> No.73927201

Who's offcollabing with groomed child right now?
https://youtu.be/I2O6K9FJylI?si=mfdzyNuZV3MeBy_z

>> No.73927578

>>73927201
Sunna... Is she her relative?

>> No.73927693

>>73927201
*inhale deeply
KOOBRAAA!?!?

>> No.73928145

https://twitter.com/GenesixVtuber/status/1780937081537401146
so this is the endgame of the genesix yab and it's pretty damning if true

>> No.73928441

Kyura Redebut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5L8yhrVU6E
Chiya CFTalk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V415s8azBnk
Hana Donothon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkbTUcDGBmM
Mira Vtuber Agency Tycoon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YEwRHvjoK4
Lydia Content Warning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfN1trOQCs8
Epel Content Warning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqVlU8RRuzA
Pirrou That's Not My Neighbor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkQ8CFv6BM0

>> No.73928901

Miichan Little Nightmares
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6ehAZlAQEQ
Naya Detroit Become Human
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpPU8jpbXv4

>> No.73929310

Kanaia Freetalk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpGKwg9LWSU

>> No.73929445

>>73928145
So, this is just basically like Zaion sins list, but why they bother to release it after the fact that Divy is already terminated? Is it for combating the ex-mods comments?

>> No.73929814

>>73929445
>So, this is just basically like Zaion sins list,
Nah if this Zaion, it'd be half assed but this is pretty convincing, so it's more like what happened in jewcorp with Riro, heck in both cases, there's a "dating with staff " clause there

>> No.73929918

So what's with tonight? Why all of HoloID streaming?

>> No.73930315

>>73929918
EN is not streaming because of things(?), so they asked ID a favor

>> No.73930741

>>73928145
qrd?

>> No.73930775

Ethel Game Talk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpfiK9QVQNI

>> No.73930820

Phinia Stardew Valley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNpqgucUgQw

>> No.73931809

>>73930741
Divya got accused of
>Breaking confidentially
>Stealing corpo assets
>Negligence at work
>Dating former staff
>Ignoring corpo's law warning

>> No.73931855

>>73930741
>>73650478
Added TL;DR of said tweet by VRCHama:
1. Privacy violation (doxxing herself ? others ?)
2. Embezzlement of her agency digital+physical assets
3. Refusal to perform work duties
4. Engaging in a romantic relationship with a staff
5. Lost contact

>> No.73932013

>>73928441
>Mira
I just know she's already back streaming again after gone for some years. Is she still Mira of the past or no?

>> No.73932121

>>73932013
I don't think so. IIRC there's talk about her changing VA and such in past bread

>> No.73932237

>>73932013
no, different va, they already opened an audition for mira 1 year ago

>> No.73933152

Ronda wan! Besok Jumat!

>> No.73933350

Aliza Parasocial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1aAJ8saWjs
Naze GTAV RP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSj5z_B4Gb8
Fareye Somerville
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F83pDUkT_Ew
Aimithon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhfG-UKVgLc

>> No.73933397

>>73933152
sibuk genjot deisex

>> No.73934335

Aneki Poppy Playtime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKN3sXywXzg

>> No.73934387

Myu Freetalk.
https://youtu.be/rZ2vjyUMLb0?si=pbhDtKwDhDDw4DQZ

>> No.73937965

Sleep with Deisleep

>> No.73939055

bump sebelum tidur

>> No.73940503

>>73937965
me fucking deisex while you sleep

>> No.73941002

>>73933152
>malam jumat
>ngeronda
Sorry I'm busy doing sunnah Rasul with Deisex. Will rapel it tomorrow

>> No.73941817

>>73933397
>>73937965
>>73941002
What a busy night for Deidey.

>> No.73943489

board is fast

>> No.73946331

bump

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