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Nijishit could NEVER

>>73753339

>>73753339

>>73753339
And who knows, maybe more later

KEK, why is everyone joining now that NijiEN fucked off. They must be seething.

>>73753339
cover is straight up filling in the vacuum left by nijien, and will probably cause this offkai to be the biggest yet. they might ask for an exclusivity deal, where they will be the only major corpo that shows up. effectively cockblocking nijien

>>73755409
Niji status, Anycolor's stock price now?

>>73753339
>Kiarasanji
This is a win for niji, OP.

>>73755940
A win for Holo, Mint and Matara maybe lmao

>>73755409
Holo isn't petty like niji. They dont need an exclusivity deal.

>>73755409
>they might ask for an exclusivity deal
this sounds more like a niji thing than cover's thing

>>73755409
They don't need to. By the time the next Offkai rolls around, there's going to be barely anything left of Niji EN

>>73756104
They went full walled garden when NijiEN was first rolled out and only dumped that policy in a desperate attempt to boost StarsEN.
Cover ain't stupid and knows you got to kick competitors when they're down or up coming

>>73756426
nonsense
we literally know niji were blocking niji x holo collabs for EN side
hololive had some weird collab policy in 2021(2022?) where collab partners needed to be pre approved by management but holos were malding about it so it was either cancelled or revised so now collabs can happen more easily now
>only dumped that policy in a desperate attempt to boost StarsEN.
stop making retarded shit up...

>>73753339
OffKai rejecting Nijisanji was the best decision they've made.
Now I'm planning on going.

>>73753339
>Offkai bans NijiEN
>Everyone starts doomposting about the con falling into irrelevancy.
>Suddenly fucking Holos arrive
What the FUCK

>>73753671
why were they inviting nijis which are anti-idol in the first place then...

>>73757095
Because Hololive ghosted them the first time they tried to get their attention

>>73757048
This is the most biggest middle finger to AnyColor and NijiEN by their competitor, it is fucking funny

>nijishit tumor excised
>things improve
it's just that simple

>>73757048
I think myth and council( promise) failed to keep momentum after the holostars destroyed the synergy they could have had. Also cover needs to break into the western market they lost when they delayed gen three so long. The smaller corpos wouldn't exist or be prominent if advent came out in 2022.

>>73755409
Why would they want to hurt other major corpos?
>>73755940
Why don't (You) reply to yourself about 30 times and then kys, egg?
>>73756426
t. delusional retard

It's only gonna get worse from here.
The top of the small corpos (V4mirai, Phase, Idol) have been pretty quiet so far when it comes to Offkai, clearly trying to stay away from the drama and weighting their options, but with Hololive there it's as good as a green light for everyone to show up in force. This is going to be come an "everyone but Niji" party, and a con that was barely a blip on the radar will become something for investor-san to get upset about.

>>73753339
When Nijien wasn't canceled, the holobronies told me that Hololive only attends big conventions like Anime Expo and not something low tier like Offkai.
Now they are just second options, after NijiEn's marketability vanished and holobronies are happy?
Why shit on Offkai in the first place? Because NijiEn was attending?
Was there any point of time in the history of universe that the holocucks were not a bunch of hypocritical fucks?

Holy shit Offkai going off

>>73757903
I wonder if hololive had the conditions that they will only show up under the condition they can have the power to exclude other agencies. There is no reason why phase, idol and the other shouldn't go.

They cancelled Niji because they feared for the safety of congoers because Dokifags are retards.

>>73757433
Myth and council had an entire year to build synergy before the homos appeared, the truth is EN doesn't give a fuck about collabing which is why Kiara is always begging for members to join and has to resort to ID

>>73758467
cover never cared about nonsense like this...
that's not how they compete in the first place

>>73753339
Watson ignored them again, didn't she?

>>73756113
niji aren't the ones who closed themselves off in a walled garden for years

>>73757903
v4m is going, just not announced yet

>>73758467
Excluding the competition from a 3rd party event would most likely get them into some legal trouble. Plus it doesn't really sound like a tactic they'd used

>>73758600
In Kiara's most recent collab she got 2/5 Myth, 3/5 Promise, and 2/5 Advent. It's hard to get full EN collabs bigger than that simply because of timezones or no-shows.

>>73758690
NijiEN was confirmed to be the ones blocking Kiara's video to be shown on Pomu's screen. Literally any Pomie can confirm this.

I thought Cover declined these cons

>>73758600
I would hope they are that arrogant cause the only one that would be a guaranteed success outside of hololive is gura. They need to build bonds between themselves and advent otherwise there is going to be synergy issues

>>73758943
They are and have been building bonds, there have been many Myth/Promise/Advent mixed collabs. You're talking to a shitposter who doesn't watch EN.

>>73758783
Why not? Cover never formally said they fired vesper and Magni. Cover tends not to explicitly say things they seem to compartamilize thier pr pretty well

>>73755409
They aren't asking for an exclusivity deal and pissing off the talent that aren't invested into your doki drama. They also won't piss off their own jp talents doing that since holojp and niji jp are on friendly terms. I know you hate niji but that's no reason to be retarded.

>Convention based in Calfornia is horribly unprofessional.
In other news, water is wet and you shouldn't look right at the sun.

>>73756426
This is true. The pomu and Kiara collab would've never happened if the blue homo hadn't collabed with Alban. But they won't do no exclusivity bullshit deal with them.

>>73757433
Holostars did not destroyed.any synergy it was you faggots harassing kronii mori and the blue homo that did.

>>73759403
seethe

>>73758467
Phase might be lowkey banned from the con after one talent threatened to castrate a member of staff last year.

>>73759131
Why doesn't gura, kronni, or ina collab with them?

>>73755409
Kurosanji executive thinking lmao

LEADER

>>73760353
>Gura
Doesn't stream
>Ina
Rarely collabs at all but she has a collab with Biboo (and IRyS and Mori) today
>Kronii
Has collabed with Biboo several times recently, including in her birthday party yesterday

>>73756426
>They went full walled garden when NijiEN was first rolled out and only dumped that policy in a desperate attempt to boost StarsEN.
You went full retard even though HoloEN did that to themselves decided to do that to themselves.
>Cover ain't stupid and knows you got to kick competitors when they're down or upcoming
Are we looking at the same company faggot?

>>73759495
Bro when you introduce the opposite sex into an environment that is like a sports team lockeroom or a soldiers barracks you end up fucking up the energy. Like miko said the environment of hololive is like a girls high-school which is totally different once you have the stars which had an antagonistic approach towards the girls fans. Like something similar can be said that inviting women into a men's sports team lockeroom ruins the vibe of a place like that

>>73760557
You can say that hololive has a huge audience but when they scanned the camera around on holofest they made sure to highlight that thier audience is more than east Asian males. You might shit on the small corpos but thier fans are not only Asians like hololive is

>>73757433
>Homos weren't a thing yet
>HoloEN had a walled garden
>YAGOO rectifies this by making HolostarsEN
>HoloEN still operate on walled garden tactics
>Niji gets banned from Offkai
>Hololive attempts to fill the void.
If they wanted to retain their western influence they could've done that before the homos showed off retard. They kept to themselves for 3 fucking years

>>73753339
how are holobros coping?

>>73760593
If it's like a girl high school then every men in chat have no rights to be there or do you see male students at girl high schools?

>>73760747
Brother I'm not shitting on small corpos. I'm saying when would Cover apply ruthless tactics similar to Anycolor? Why would they apply those tactics? That's not how they work.

>>73760593
>Like miko said the environment of hololive is like a girls high-school which is totally different once you have the stars which had an antagonistic approach towards the girls fans
And rightfully so. Some of them go out of their way to invade the boys' chats to shit stir. I don't see any of the boys' fans do that.

>>73758690
you never watched hololive in your life

>>73759152
because they didn't fire them...

>>73761011
Didn't alot of the holostars fans go to Kiaras chat as soon as it was publicly announced that Magni and vesper were "leaving" ?

>>73761252
What is it called when you don't extend a contract? Besides that why did they give both them both a new outfit right before they left? Vespers name is a blocked word in kronnis chat

>>73753339
>Gura "returns" during ARlive
>now this
Sasuga Dimitri Jap

>>73759431
No this is explicitly not true
>The pomu and Kiara collab would've never happened if the blue homo hadn't collabed with Alban
Kiara literally addressed that and was seething that people now think that because she did most the work but her collab was a bit later because of scheduling lmao

Do you retards learn about hololive from this threads? Like what the fuck am I even reading?
None of you watch vtubers or something?

>>73761448
>None of you watch vtubers or something?
welcome to /vt/

>>73761396
>What is it called when you don't extend a contract?
that was THEIR decision tho
>Besides that why did they give both them both a new outfit right before they left?
won't this point to cover not wanting to fire them? how the fuck is this related
>Vespers name is a blocked word in kronnis chat
also unrelated? she obviously doesn't want for retards to spam her with questions about vesper

Kiara ASKED for more appearances so they are giving her more appearances
what with surprised pikachu faces lol

>>73761925
>>73753671

>>73755409
I hope they keep showing up at this con, it's only 15 min away from me.

>>73761448
It's literally shitposting Nijifags who can only repost catalog narratives.

>>73761877
Why did they wait a multiple months before letting them go that sounds like Oidashibeya.

>>73760829
Kek

>>73762501
they didn't "let them go"

>>73762754
So what exactly happened? Because I haven't heard anyone who is holostar fan give a coherent answer

>>73759403
>kicked out the trouble makers, invited mint, vshoujo and Hololive
Seems extremely professional to me. They also offered refunds, something niji doesn't do

>>73762901
They didn't like some things (like vesper's basically self admitted inability to handle expectations and workload) and decided to graduate.

>>73763115
I think not being able to handle the workload defines Sana and not vesper. I think the issue is vesper wanted to do what he wanted to do and cover rebuffed and said nah dude you can't just do what you want

>>73761269
No. That was Kiara telling the vesties that remained in her chat that she doesn't know what's going on with Vesper even though they never really brought it up and just want to know more about the funny chicken that their oshi raided during her Minecraft stream.
Did you seriously believe the catalog retards here?

>>73762901
NotMagni and NotVesper explained that they couldn't handle it and pretty much shot down the rrats. Although NotMagni seemed to be pissed off about someone that he supposedly trusted about handling a "group project". This falls in line with the Tachibana yab.

>>73765166
who gives a fuck what you think?
it's not a matter of your fucking opinion, dumbass, it's what he LITERALLY said

>>73765377
I think it's more so that Kiara understands that the stars fans are known for bothering the girls who specifically want nothing to do with the stars (Like when the stars fans bothered irys and kanata about collabing with the stars) Plus she was the only one live during the announcement so she knew she had to say something before the stars fans ask why she didn't say anything.

>>73765730
Do you think that he would have the humility to admit that he was being egotistical bitch? Gura can't even admit she's not going to stream unless she's forced.

>>73766079
I don't think anything I'm just telling you what he himself said.

>>73755409
>>73756113
>OffKai's first two years have no Holos at all, does have NijiEN
>Gen 3 kicks Niji
>sudden flood of Holos
Maybe Niji DID have an exclusivity deal

>>73766921
I think what actually happened was holos were super fucking busy, especially ones who cared about cons etc. And this year they are not. (I dunno what's going on but it seems that a lot of holos who were very busy in april last year are free now.)

lol

>>73753339
Isn't this like really, really late to be announced?

>>73767967
Please understand. Negotiations have broken down and they're looking to the better corpo for help.

>>73760157
>Phase might be lowkey banned from the con after one talent threatened to castrate a member of staff last year.
Sounds kinda based

>>73767967
>>73768033
>they always begged holo
>to protect their brand, holo always put conditions that offkai didn't want to accept
>2024 happens
>they literally have to accept those conditions or risk becoming even more irrelevant
This is my rrat for why this shit was announced so late.

>>73768158
>conditions
like fucking what exactly

>>73768273
Unless some offkai retard throws his job, pic related.
Also, I jsut said it's my rrat.

>>73768410
I get that it's a rrat but I just can't think of any real conditions they can even put up...

>>73765166
Vesper from the very beginning was saying that he doesn't want to do the idol stuff. He still gave it a try and wasn't for him. Plus he kept saying that he hopes his Japanese coaches are willing to work with him again because they had a lot of patience with him. Meaning he was not having any of their bullshit and they found him hard to work with. As far as him leaving because of that doubt it because I have a feeling that fagnis persuade him to quit so that he can do what he wants after funneling holostaren audience to his rm

Something or (Someone) Is artificially propping up nijisanji's stock yesterday and today. It keeps falling alongside the market before "rebounding" back up to a small loss. It was down -70 yesterday before going to -11 and TODAY it went -60 before going to negative single digits.. Who the fuck keeps buying this dip only for it to rebound again

>>73768845
Riku calling in favors from his extended family and family friends

>>73768717
The irony of the alchemist schtick and filtering more or less none of his Blue Dorito audience over to his RM will never not make me laugh. I don’t hate the guy but still

>>73755409
It couldn't happen to a more deserving company. The best part is they won't fucking learn either.

>>73760593
>opposite sex into an environment that is like a soldiers barracks ends up fucking with the energy
Here's how I know you have no idea how any military works
a female coming into an all male barracks room can make proffesional porn like tame in comparison

>>73769939
...that sounds like even stronger argument against fucking up hololive environment

>>73753339
>Holos have already started to get announced
>still no word from phase connect, who were easily the biggest event last year
Why? You'd think they would come back this year after how well they were recieved in 2023

>>73767928
ain't no way

>>73768845
Riku desperately bailing water out of the yacht to keep it afloat until April 30th

>>73760157
lmao what?

>>73753339
It just means that NijiEN is so bad that Takanashi "Orange Woman Bad" Kiara herself can be accepted at OffKai.

>>73776129

>>73776370
They shouldn't have screwed with the audio mixing while Jelly was in the middle of singing

>>73762501
Pardon my question but, what's oidashibeya?

>>73768845
Wtf, looks like Riku's secret allies are making their move

>>73776370
Phase based as always

>>73776370
kek

>>73753339
must've been expensive

>>73768970
I think the latest stream that popped on my YT recs he had only had 90 viewers, don't know if that was at the beginning though

>>73761448
>Kiara literally addressed that and was seething
ME ME ME ME ME

I NEED A JEFF MCBICEPS x KAELA COLLAB NOW.

>>73781039
He’s a 3 view still but at best I think he gets the same amount of money he did under holo even without the middle cut. He really should be happy with what he has but as far as I’ve heard he still seethes on occasions

>>73753339
This bitch is nijien lol

>>73760747
>holofest
no shit sherlock its in a fuckng japan
>small corpo not only asian male
okay retard.since when jimmy is asian? that viking guy is asian? idk where you come from,phase,vshojo,idol or even that shithole nijisanji but you clearly dont know shit about holo

>>73760829
>how are nijisisters coping?
ftfy,they kicked niji in order for holo to even bother giving some of their member lmao

>>73753339
I don't get their rationale, they drop Nijis to avoid they shitshow they'll bring with them from either side, but then insantly bring the overly vocal chicken who's clearly very friendly with said dropped people

>>73783117
>since when jimmy is asian?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJS3ajohm1Q
NTA, but you really should can stop falseflagging now, no one is buying your shitty act.

>>73783117
Why do you think they had the English concert in Los Angeles California? Because it's one of the few places there is a shitload of Asians. If they had tried the same thing in new york it would have not done nearly as good

>>73779188
https://japanintercultural.com/free-resources/articles/oidashibeya-japanese-purgatory/

>>73783598
NTA you're responding to but EST timezone has 45% of the population of the USA and has good train connection up and down the Eastern corridor. A show in NYC could easily fill 10k+ people simply due to ease of access. HoloFes this year was like 85k, so a USA show in a big venue could be pretty damn large.

Honestly, it'd be harder just to fit all the tourists in due to how fucked NYC is right now more than anything else.

>>73776370
I hope with Cover being there this time they will have their shit together cause it was horrible what they were doing during performances.

>>73783938
So if the majority of north Americans live in est why Did they do the concert in LA

>>73776370
Airi was so based for this

>>73753339
>Vshojo offered their C-tier talent to off-kai
>Hololive offered their A-tier talent to off-kai.
This is a clear proof that Hololive is the ONLY one paying attention to this convention.

>>73789151
Sending C Tier because you only have C Tier isn’t a flex retard

>no phase connect
>no Nijisanji
>small presence of Vshoujo and on them is actually funny and entertaining
Wow off-kai went from a D-tier convention to something I might fly to California for.

>>73758912
Don't forget blocking her from the Metal gear sponsorship that she ended up crying on stream about it

>>73757095
They weren't that well known back then, so hololive ignored them. That's why they had to settle with nij

>>73791455
Why are you faggots so hung up on the mgs collab. There's way more evidence that points to it being a collab with an idol group rather than the mgs collab.
She specifically said that she understood why it was denied.
There's literally no reason niji to deny her of a mgs collab. The only possible reason I could think of is if niji chose to give it to someone else in the same company that sucks their dick harder

>>73789151
>Calls Henya a C-tier
Retard. If Henya is considered C-tier then everyone else in vshojo is trash-tier

>>73753671
>Kiara influences/controls Off Kai
>Gura controls Kiara and Mumei
>Gura threw out Nijis from Off Kai
I knew it. The sisters' behavior became too much even for her.

>>73796041
The only people I know that exist in vshoujo these days are mouse and henya and that guy pretending to be a girl

>>73753339
Kiara
>>73753974
Kaela
>>73754030
Koseki

KKK...

>>73785925
Because it's like 10 hours away from Tokyo. Yagoo only just came to NYC last November for the convention there. I think they have major opportunity to move into the east coast with the new office though.

>>73798307
Did the concert not the office need to be in LA or was it the only place they could guarantee a sold out house?

>>73755409
hololive doesn't work like that, sister

>>73755940
>Nijisisters falseflagging and trying to claim Kiara as their own
Nice try.

>>73796041
You need to accept it, Henya fell off when she got into vshojo, the model is a step down and her humor accommodated to western standards, when's the last time she talked about loli or her favorite futa fanart?

>>73800978
You are delusional.

>>73797987
>Piss-lipino propaganda
shut it down

>>73753671
>>73753974
>>73754030
Kiara
Kaela
Koseki
KKK

>>73761269
Those weren't fans they were beggars.

>>73753671
Wholesome !

>>73800978
>when's the last time she talked about loli
literally last stream, retard.

Fellas, isn't it nijinigger behaviour to EXIST? I mean, you're literally EXISTING in the same reality as Enna Alouette from Nijisanji EN 3rd gen Ethyria

>>73753671
kino

>>73754030
I'm thankful for the good offkai lineup.
It will help me cope with FWMC going to taipei instead.

>>73760441
LEADAH

K keep me posted

>>73814087
>taipei

>>73805612
What's the difference?