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>> No.73735327

>again
Never believed in them in the first place.

>> No.73735530

>>73735198
Turn back in time before Ethyria debut and remove my memories of last few years.
so I can lose my belief in them again

>> No.73735606

>>73735198
Rosemi, please stop visiting this board.

>> No.73735635
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>>73735198
If they did this

>> No.73735710

For everything else to shit the bed so badly that I have no other choice but to see what's going on in NijiEN
I have no reason to see them, I'll have no reason to see them ever again

>> No.73735742

>>73735198
Actually killing someone

>> No.73735744

>>73735635
Uki watch out theres a honkey on the stage.

>> No.73735800

I don't know. I still watch one or two people from Niji, but as a whole I really don't care what happens to the company itself anymore. If they want to stay, great, if they want to leave, also great. I'll follow them regardless of what company they're in.

>> No.73735833

>>73735327
fpbp

>> No.73735867

>>73735198
One gen made of cute and funny and all shall be forgiven.

>> No.73735900

Wipe the slate clean and terminate every single current talent, manager and support staff on EN side. Then hire some actually good people and someone that isn't a high schooler working slave labor to support them.

>> No.73736001

>>73735198
>what would it take for the black company to be forgiven?

okay I'll be generous. Here are the terms:
1. FULL PUBLIC APOLOGY from Elira and the rest of her Clique, LIVE on stream. The apology is for DOKI and SAYU, NOT for the investors.
2. same as 1, but from the NijiEN staff instead (assuming its not all Elira larping as the entire management). No need for Riku to apologize he already got humiliated by his own Livers with that retarded Black Stream.
3. Take down that Black Stream, and put out an official statement clearing Doki and Sayu's names and admitting Nijisanji's wrongdoings. Now you may confuse that with the Full Public Apology thing from 1 and 2 but its different.
3. Provide PROPER support for their remaining talents. That includes better merch deals, a FULL SALARY (since it was revealed they really don't have that), more benefits, etc.
4. Replace the core staff with skilled AND competent ones, with proper salary and benefits as well.
5. Make equal opportunities for both female amd male Livers. Everyone knows Luxiem and Noctyx gets waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyy MORE than the girls. CHANGE THAT.

There! I do think that's generous and fair enough. Do that, and I guarantee you Nijisanji will be largely forgiven and might even win back some of their former supporters.

>> No.73736003

That ship has sailed. None of their current livers interests me. They'd have to hire a once in a lifetime talent for me to even feel conflicted.

>> No.73736005

>>73735900
But... but... that'll cost them more than 2% to give...

>> No.73736029

Show Reimu’s asshole and feet on stream.

>> No.73736167

>>73736005
get rid of that whole "2%" thing. Change it. That would actually solve a lot of their issues, not all ofc.

>> No.73736379

>>73735327
basado

>> No.73736610

>>73735198
Replacing the CEO, making him sell all his shares, cut him off from any influence in the company.
Then fire all the management and 70% of the vtubers and restart with a healthier CEO as the basis.

It would be easier to just start a new company and let this one rot then finally die after enough time.

>> No.73736611
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>>73735198
>Hire actual vtuber fans instead of retards who have little to zero connection to the medium.
Kyo, Uki, Luca had resumes with absolutely no connection to the industry at all, and those three are some of the biggest reasons Niji has it's current reputation. Coincidence?
>Go back to having an equal support level for guys and girls, especially for old guard
Gens 1-3 along with females in general were considered second to males once Luxiem had sucess. Believe it or not there were gens before them, and they deserve the same amount of help and recources.
>Stop trying to pull a fucking defamation campaign on everyone you fire
It didnt work for Zaion, didnt work for Nina, and ESPECIALLY didnt work for Selen. Why should anyone work for you if they have to fear retaliation and a harsh termination that could possibly get them blacklisted?
Its better to respect both them and their fans by keeping it proffesional.
>Start holding their bigger talents accountable for their actions
Its insane how they punished Zaion for minor things, while letting actual /pol/ levels of racism from Uki and everything Luca/Vox do go completely unpunished.
Favortism towards the moneymakers just leads to a generally terrible work envirement.

thats just about everything I can think of.

>> No.73736660

>>73735198
Clean house. Lay off management, restructure the business side of the branch, cut ties with the troublemaking talents (don't publicly execute them for god's sake, just graduate them and pretend they're leaving on good terms, put all the bullshit behind you).

There's no way to restore confidence in talents who are culpable for the drama. There's no way to restore talent in the management that not only allowed that drama to happen, but also wrote the fucking character assassination memo. You cut off the finger to save the hand.

If they're unwilling or incapable of doing that then they can just enjoy their slow, terminal decline. Nobody worth scouting is going to audition for NijiEN now knowing it's reputation.

>> No.73736680

Uki going full mask-off and doing an entire stream about all the races he hates and why.
>>73735327
Fibby bibby

>> No.73736716

>>73735198
Give all the organs their IP for free after one year in there, this would of course have to be retroactive.

>> No.73736752

>>73735198
Having every single member and staff being shot on stream.

>> No.73736874

>>73736001
Any of these points will not make investors happy, so these will never happen

>> No.73736893
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73736893

I already do

>> No.73737059

>>73735198
A talent almost died. I will never forgive them and will actively root for their destruction. I hope they get completely erased except for Elira and Vox who have to stay in the company for the rest of their days

>> No.73737090
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>>73735198
>fire Luca.
>make Vox change his model to a sissy.
>turn Finana into a public toilet.
>force feed Elira asparagus. Lots of it.
>give Sonny a boat.
>turn Aia into a loving trad wife
>let me personally motorboat Scarlet's tits and lick her mole.
>admit Aster to the YMCA
Idk about the rest but those are my conditions.

>> No.73737121

>>73736893
hate to admit it, but this 3D design is actually pretty adorable and cute. Jank aside.

>> No.73737138

>>73736874
then its legitimately, absolutely 100% GAME OVER for nijien. There are no other good options for them aside from what 73736001 listed.

>> No.73737145

>>73735198
>again
Lol. But I'll engage.
Publicly fire every single member in the clique, and every single member who had ties to any kinda dark shit. No, I don't care that Reimu was proven to barely interact with that pedophile, but it's better for everyone to be safe than sorry and cut out people like her too. If I can type in "[roommate name] drama" and find something of worth then they shouldn't be in it.
Publicly execute Luca especially and do it harder than they did for Zaion and Selen combined and twice over. Show that favoritism doesn't control the company, even though it already does in the branch that actually gets support but I digress.
Give the IP to everyone and let them decide to leave whenever they want.
Create a list of the wrongdoings by the company including the things they "ignored" dating back to the inception of EN.
Behead Riku.

>> No.73737357

>>73737090
>>turn Finana into a public toilet.
Yeah, for me.

>> No.73737406

>>73735198
They literally lost their only livers worth watching, fucking no one is sticking around to watch a Finana or Aia stream

>> No.73737482
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>>73737090
>turn Finana into a public toilet.
She already is, have you seen her third outfit?

>> No.73737530

>>73737090
Finana public toilet as an apology?
Hell yea.

>> No.73737599

>>73736001
This but fire Enna and Luca too.

>> No.73737687

>>73735198
Fire all management and replace them with people who can actually speak English, increase talent cuts, fire Enna, Millie, and Elira.

>> No.73737722

>>73735198
There's a lot, but let's start with something simple that will never happen because Anycolor itself would fold and go bankrupt long before allowing it.
Start paying your talent employees a salary, because they're clearly not contractors.

>> No.73737739

>>73737090
>>give Sonny a boat.
But why?

>> No.73737811

>>73737090
>make Vox change his model to a sissy.
No need. He's already a bitch.

>> No.73737904

naked dogeza

>> No.73737934

>>73737090
At least give him a yatch.

>> No.73738000
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>>73735198
The Clique's heads on pikes and an announcement formally apologizing to and exonerating Selen.

>> No.73738000,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>OP no redemption for kurosanji until we get redemption for ZAION, sink the yacht

>> No.73738113

>>73736611
They defamed Nina? I thought she just graduated on good terms

>> No.73738116

>>73735327
Fire all the men.
Fire all the women except Rosemi, Petra, Maria, Aia, Scarle, Meloco, Kunai and Vivi

>> No.73738177

>>73735198
Total restructure.
Remove Ethyria and Luxiem and half of members in new waves. Punish evildoers like Luca, Vox, Uki accordingly. Make it clear that you are reshaping the company into something it failed to be. Show a proper roadmap with appropriate funding and managerial support for talents specified, not just vaguely promised.
Nothing short of that will be sufficient.

>> No.73738182
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I'm not sure what they can do at this point. There's still quite a few talents I don't hate as people (Most of them being girls), but the way the branch was handled starting from Lazulight's 1 year anniversary was genuinely frustrating. Beyond what felt like a noticeable shift in audience/content, some of the talents starting getting into more frequent drama, and not minor isolated incidents either. Sometimes it would spill over to affect other talents, which made the company extremely difficult to watch after a while as you became increasingly frustrated on why management isn't properly stepping in to reign in the yabs. And that's not getting into the heavy-handed favoritism either, like how Luxiem got a "half year" anniversary to overshadow Lazulight/NijiEN's 1 year anniversary.
2023 basically marked the point of no return with the initial cancellation of AR Colors, the Secret GC stream, and how they handled Zaion's termination. They started off so good with Lazulight's 3D debut and then they just dropped the ball hard. The Selen situation this year was basically an outlet to release all that pent up rage that was just building and festering for more than a year. I don't know what they can do to calm the situation, since they're essentially treated as public enemy no 1, and beyond ex talents leaving and going indie (and doing well for themselves), other smaller companies and talents are popping up and are offering calmer environments to watch, or are offering what people want.

>> No.73738371

>>73735198
The termination of all hanamori members infesting the branch.
Also Terminate Luka with a book of grudges because he is the only one that deserves it.

>> No.73738440

>>73735635
DANCE ASIAN BOYS DANCE SHAKE IT

>> No.73738481

Do you think the black screen will forever haunt Elira?

>> No.73738568

>>73735198
Riku has proven to be a garbage CEO. Anything he drives will sink. If he's fired or leaves and we see actual leadership I might believe.

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>>73735198
Some of the best talents that made niji who they are (Pomu, Selen, to a much lesser extent Nina) Are long gone now so not really sure what they can do to fix this.
I can't see them going back to how their first year was without hiring the kind of talent the clique would completely despise.

>> No.73738871

>>73738481
Yes. I dont care what their lawyers or maybe even their managers said, that was such a mistake to do. They should have worked things out privately with their lawyers before even thinking of releasing those statements.

>> No.73738872

Riku must commit ritual suicide

>> No.73738952

>>73738481
Will it forever haunt Elira? No.

It'll haunt her roommates entire online presence for her entire life.

>> No.73738980

>>73735198
Actually push for visibility of their latest Livers and let them be the new face of the company
The others will leave if they want to

>> No.73739234

>>73735198
I still believe. Fuck this board.

>> No.73739356

>>73736001
Last three points are OK, the other three not so much.

>> No.73739429

>>73737059
dyrbi

>> No.73739506

>>73735198
Can't imagine it's possible. All the people I had any real interest in watching left, and I don't intend to give any new members a shot.
Pretty much the only way I'd ever watch a niji again is if someone I already liked before joined, and I'd like to think the indies I'm into are above that.

>> No.73739510

>>73739234
LOL

>> No.73739627
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>>73738182
Pretty much sums up my feelings. They started off strong with Lazulight and Obsydia to the point I only really watched NijiEN for most of 2021 because their content was that good.
>Then males debuted, which was alright at first as they made some effort to integrate into the existing fanbase
>Then Luxiem blew up in China, and the original NijiEN fans were slowly being outnumbered by ESL Chinese fujos
>Then Luxiem and Ethyria saw this spike in female fans and decided to go fully unhinged content-wise
>This slowly infected the entire branch into being nothing but sex and flirting every fucking stream
>Then the disastrous Luxiem 6 month anniversary debacle soured all the male fans away from Niji
>Then Iluna showed up and deflated everyone's expectations for the "future" of the branch, destroying any hope that things could recover

>Fast forward a year to mid-2023 and talents are talking about wanting to be the next OTV and wanting a streamer house to have orgies in
>Pomu and Selen are both on their way out
>Ethyria are fully in their whore phase traveling around the world on a weekly basis to fuck different coworkers
>Luxiem don't even stream anymore, and their fans are gone
>Lazulight and Obsydia are complete afterthoughts
>Iluna is still a joke
>Luca is outed as a fucking rapist
>Management still puts zero effort into promoting the branch or improving working conditions or reigning in the more problematic people

There's really no way to recover from this. I've seen it happen countless times with other niche communities. Once the "normie" demographic moves on after cannibalizing your community you'll never get back the original diehard fans you chased away. All these people will slowly leave NijiEN and try their lot infecting the rest of the vtuber world while pretending they weren't part of the problem. But no one will trust them, and anywhere Ethyria goes will be universally hated. The only ones that have a chance of recovering are the people who debuted afterwards and have no real part in the drama like XSoleil, Krisis, and TTT. At most they were just unlucky.

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>>73739627
Glad I'm not the only one who was heavily into nijiEN back in the day. In 2021 they were my favorite corpo by far and the first 2 gens and to a certain extent 3 before enna and millie went full schitzophenic were EN vtubing at its very peak IMO
Once Luxiem came there was such a drastic shift in tone for the branch that I slowly tuned out of everything Niji outside of Rosemi by the time Noctyx debuted.

>> No.73740022

>>73739356
why? if anything what the larger portion of the community wants is JUSTICE for Doki and Sayu, a full public apology from the suspects is a good way to deliver that justice for them

>> No.73740089

>>73735635
Don't they get dance lessons? Holoboys get dance lessons.

>> No.73740133

>>73736874
>Implying the investors are happy.
They are praying for Riku to toss money at them again trough buybacks or dividends anon. They don't give a flying fuck about EN, they have already declared it a net loss, they are sticking around because Kazuha and ROF-MAO are a thing and they are money.

>> No.73740162

>>73740022
Sayu fully deserves an apology for what kyo did and for not condemning the doxfaggots in their fanbase, but I wouldn't put her anywhere close to the level of what doki went though.

>> No.73740295

>>73740162
both still deserve a proper full apology from Niji nonetheless, so those points are still valid.

>> No.73740309

>>73739234
Pathetic.

>> No.73740392

>>73738182
This guy summed it up perfectly. Selen was the last drop, they were already bleeding all over and doing absolutely nothing to fix it.
It took literally being called murderers for Riku to give a fuck and he's so incompetent he thinks debuting 3Ds without stop is the perfect solution, instead of you know, FIXING the problem or admitting there is one that everyone but 30 pagpag whores without future permanently /here/ knows there is.

We don't need this kind of shit companies around. There is been a surge of EN debuts which means the void is being filled, killing off any hope for them to recover. Short of admitting their misdoing, firing some scapegoat and apologizing to those who they tried to smear for their own narc shit, I don't see anyway they are getting forgiven.
Goodwill doesn't magically grow out of nowhere, and Niji has exausted all of it.

>> No.73740472

>>73735198
Mate, I lost faith with Ethyria. Everything after just made extra sure I'd never find it again.

>> No.73740477

>73739234
Nijisis can't even admit they are in deep shit. The absolute status of these subhumans has been the best show Niji offered in these 3 months. They sacrificed their worse fans to clown around the internet and make their reputation worse at every turn.
With fans this bad and shit, who needs antis?

>> No.73740560

>>73740133
how much did anycolor spent in stock buyback?
i know it was not little, like 200m usd

>> No.73740945

>>73740392
That's the thing, non-stop 3D debuts could work well as one way of showing people "Guys, we really do mean it, we do want to change things!", but that would just be like the cherry on top of a suite of other changes. I hate to sound like a Twitter warrior but Anycolor's EN branch had a lot of changes on a systemic level, like the management's protection of Luxiem above all else, their priority of JP 3D over EN 3D, the slow bureaucratic style of Japanese management, not properly rewarding talents with even minor things like play buttons to boost morale, not rewarding well behaving talents while not punishing yab ones enough like Enna/Kyo/Vox, ect.

>>73740560
It was not a small sum. As noted here
>https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/ANYCOLOR-INC-137315116/news/ANYCOLOR-Inc-s-Equity-Buyback-announced-on-December-18-2023-has-closed-with-775-200-shares-repre-45768421/
Anycolor repurchased 775k stocks for roughly 16.2 million USD. They have great financial incentive to turn the company around.

>> No.73740974

>>73738182
I find it interesting, hearing from Nijifans about warning signs from the past that indicated that something was dreadfully wrong.
I only really knew about the "COVID" concert cancellation, high turnover and frequency of yabs, and parody stream before shit went full sideways this February.

>> No.73741002
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73741002

I never quit believing

>> No.73741213

>>73740945
not like they will spend money on it
really wish there was a ounce of decency in management there, but highschoolers doing part time jobs for 12h tend to be corrupt like forum mods

>> No.73741332

Honestly at this point...nothing.

>> No.73741539

>>73738595
Oh hell no, Nina was one of the biggest causes for the luxium takeover in the first place. Ain't no wait she's getting the hero treatment. That bitch was the first psycho in ethyria to hop on the "the boys are more important" bandwagon

>> No.73741601

>>73735198
Three hour bastinado live stream with Riku, Elira, Vox and Ike as the barefoot and bound guests of honor

>> No.73741864
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>>73740945
>Anycolor's EN branch had a lot of changes on a systemic level, like the management's protection of Luxiem above all else, their priority of JP 3D over EN 3D, the slow bureaucratic style of Japanese management, not properly rewarding talents with even minor things like play buttons to boost morale, not rewarding well behaving talents while not punishing yab ones enough like Enna/Kyo/Vox, ect.
Yeah, exactly this. The way NijiEN is managed makes it seem very imbalanced and unfair even from an outsider perspective.
>Selen gets immediately terminated for posting a song cover a few hours early because it contained graduated livers
>Meanwhile Luca does something that is explicitly forbidden and a complete breach of NDA by having his hag manage his channel and all his Niji accounts and even doxxing his coworkers to her and gets zero punishment
On top of the ridiculous management style, I don't think investors will regain confidence in NijiEN unless the company invests actual money into the branch. Stuff like rushed 3D's, airing the scuffed AR Live that they recorded all the way back in 2022, and new voice packs isn't gonna convince anyone. Those are all just quick cash grabs and come off as very cynical.

Unless they come out and announce a new branch headquarters in California with a full 3D studio to show they're serious about producing content for EN, all the naked dogezas and tazumi bows are just gonna fall on deaf ears.

>> No.73741938

>>73738371
>The termination of all hanamori members infesting the branch.
Since I never really followed the whole Hanamori to NijiEN "pipeline", so who else are ex-Hamamori besides Nova = Elira?

>> No.73742131

>>73741864
I would not be deaf to the beautiful sound of a metal curtain rod whacking the naked soles of Riku's, Elira's, Vox's and Ike's feet

>> No.73742258

Nothing, letting Selen and Pomu leave is akind to Hololive letting Gura or Marine leave, letting them go away -and on bad terms on top- is more than enough evidence to know that NijiEN management is beyond rescue and not worth my time.

>> No.73742319

>>73735327
/thread

>> No.73742376

>>73735198
I've been calling niji EN the cocksleeve and sexpest company for 2 years, retards

>> No.73742400

>>73735327
fpbp

>> No.73742448

>>73741539
She was being ghosted by the rest of her gen, what was she supposed to do?

>> No.73742501

>>73741539
take your meds

>> No.73742538

>>73741539
>t. sister

>> No.73742579

>>73735327
fpbp
Also niji has been getting btfo with fp for a while.

>> No.73742591

>>73735198
From someone that only got into vtubing last year - as long as you have rabid fans continuously defending all of Niji’s terrible decisions, the company will never be pressured to fix itself. As long as corruption continues to fester within AnyColor as a whole, they will never earn forgiveness. Sayu and Doki’s situations were the straw that broke the camel’s back for me.

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>>73741539
really funny seeing niji refugees memory hole all the girls in niji EN except selen sucking the cocks of luxiem and noctyx

>> No.73742632

>>73741938
Ex Hanamori
Shu Yamino
Uki Violeta
Claude Clawmark

Friends of Hanamori
Millie Parfait
Enna Alouette
Pomu Rainpuff

Noteworthy Hanamoro associates: shxtou and Diego (Pretty Patterns)

>> No.73742637

>>73735198
Fire Elira and Vox and suspend Ike for a week or a month.

>> No.73742665

>>73742591
Yes, but those fans need to pay. Sisters are primarily in poor countries like China or Indonesia.

>> No.73742733

>>73742637
No, they must stay and submit their bare soles to the rod

>> No.73742760

>>73735198
Getting rid of all of them except Scarle
I could be nice and keep Rosemi, Vivi and Maria too

>> No.73742852

>>73736001
All of this would be only possible if Tazumi had any backbone.
But we know that unlike his Holo counterpart he doesn't have any

>> No.73742943

>>73742760
>rosemi
>maria
throw them out, they contributed hard to the open VC and chat attention whoring culture that permanently hurt their growth

>> No.73743079

>>73740089
If the boys did its yet more favoritism. I know of none for the girls. We had Pomu doing member streams to practice anisong choreos she knew to prep for 3D, and Elira and Finana moved like reanimated fish in their 3D debuts. From what I've heard of the AR Live, it didn't improve either.

>> No.73743086

No matter how much time passes, any social media account associated with Anycolor will never be trusted because of skin walking and stealth suspensions. That will never be cured no matter how much time passes.

>> No.73743106

>>73742760
Do the opposite of what the anon said.

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>>73739234
>I still believe. Fuck this board.
What I wonder is how they can even get new viewers with their nuclear reputation? Imagine you're completely new to vtubers and want to check out some of the different vtuber companies.
>search up Hololive on YouTube get normal clips
>search up VShojo on YouTube get normal clips
>search up Phase Connect on YouTube get normal clips
>search up Nijisanji on YouTube and get fucking this
Keep in mind that Nijisanji was getting lower and lower numbers with each consequent wave before all the drama went down. And now almost everyone from YouTube commenters, 4channers, redditors, random indies and chatters on Twitch, etc, treat Nijisanji as a joke and will be more than happy to tell you about it's awful reputation. Would you choose to watch Nijisanji after that, or would you choose to watch one of the other vtuber companies?

>> No.73743262

>>73743079
>Finana
>Reanimated fish
pottery

>> No.73743364

>>73740974
Internally from all the leaks we know, 2022 was when things started going off the rails, but publicly, the first real warning sign was terminating Yugo which most people ignored. The first real sign that people could see that the company was going down in flames was Zaion's termination.

>> No.73743362

>>73736660
>Clean house. Lay off management.
What management? The root of this whole mess was that there was literally nobody running the show on the EN side and they let the livers who speak the best Japanese bully the rest into letting them be in charge.

>> No.73743552

>>73743362
The bare soles of everyone in the clique must get the rod

>> No.73743659

>>73738481
It will always be her most viewed stream, she needs to delete it.

>> No.73743738

>>73743659
Replace it with a stream of her re-watching it while her bare soles get the rod

>> No.73743988

>>73742590
I'm glad she filtered all you retards early on, thanks to the clique ghosting her.
>>73743253
Yep, as much as people want to pretend otherwise, vtubbing is still not a mainstream thing in the west and the fanbase are mostly terminally online nerds that will catch whiff of all that went down.

>> No.73744076

>>73735198
If they kidnap Yagoo and demand ransom from Holo

>> No.73744227

>>73735198
Taking down the black screen vod would be a good start on getting public opinion back.
Address the bullying claims they started, most likely solved by firing one of them. (Luca could be used as an example for his blatant rule breaching).
Make a statement about how they're cleaning house staff-wise, focusing on improving talent support or some vague BS.
Weekly clips about the newer waves so they can get some exposure for once (istg the only post xsoleil member that I see get talked about outside of here is fucking Claude.)
Aside from that pretty much just giving actual support for the talents.

>> No.73744646

Step one for them to make amends would be for management to admit that they made mistakes.
We can discuss what steps 2 and onward would or could be, until the eventual heat death of the universe. The discussion would be purely academic, since management will not take that first step.

>> No.73744934

>>73744646
Step 1 has been decided to be the ritual burning of Elira, Vox and Ike's shoes and socks in preparation for the live bastinado stream. Please lurk the thread a bit more before posting.

>> No.73746040

>>73744227
Speaking of management apparently theres a strong rrat that one of the pajeet talents from NijiINDIA was top management, what are the odds they are what fucked everything over?

>> No.73746103

>>73735198
Consistent enforcement of the rules would be a good start

>> No.73746156

>>73737090
>>turn Aia into a loving trad wife
THIS

>> No.73746218

>>73743079
Finana learned to do a butt shake a couple of times that's about it.

>> No.73746258

>>73743253
This, people vastly underestimate just how fucked the search algo is now
>this luca kaneshiro guy looks cool
>look him up on youtube
Option A:
>autofills to "drama" like google does with "real face"
Option B:
>directly shows these incredibly popular videos at the top
The only other way this can go is a potential new viewer spends over half an hour watching this out of curiosity, which is low, or they just decide to not deal with a guy who "beat his meat in VRChat". Which uh... isn't exactly some new knowledge about that game? But that's a different conversation.

>> No.73746294

>>73735198
>Apologize to Selen, Sayu
>Management to not fuck up for a year
>The remaining talents get trained in PR and should show
I don't think their merch cut or their debut strat will have ever change so just this should be the starter goals

>> No.73746311

>>73735198
All the men leave, and that includes Enna. I still wouldn't watch, but I'd shitpost way less.

>> No.73746368

>>73746258
>Option A is real
damn, I thought that was an exaggeration

>> No.73746378

>>73735198
If they magically were to buyout vtube studio

>> No.73746446

>>73746040
Noor from Nijisanji EN0

>> No.73746464

>>73746040
I don't know jackshit about Niji India, so can't comment.

>> No.73746555

>>73746040
Noor left her position around the time Kyo's gen debuted, so most likely no

>> No.73746588

>>73746156
girls who get gang banged will never be trad bro

>> No.73746620

>>73746446
>>73746464
If you think Aia is an annoying SJW you would lose your shit if you watched Noor, she's much better as a management since she's probably the reason Luciem is a cashcow being her manager, according to the rrats.

>> No.73746642

>>73735198
Vtubers are retarded and I only watch girls I want to fuck. Whores can die in hell.

>> No.73746795

>>73746588
The Soft spoken trad looking niji doing a purity test stream and talking about a gangbang she partook in is still the funniest shit I've seen in vtubing to date.

>> No.73746867

>>73746795
Bro, what?

>> No.73747208

>Fire Luca
>Fire Aster
>Work on workplace accommodations and health plans with Fulgur
>Hire competent managers with industry experience
>Public statement video apologising for malicious mismanagement and outlining their improvement plans
>Do not hire anyone else and focus on bolstering existing talents
>More interactivity with JP

>> No.73747329

>>73746795
I don't know if she talked about it, but I remember she got below a... was it 27? I'm just going to round up and say 30. So she got below 30 which implies she's either admitting to a crime or admitting to a massive amount of sexual endeavors including gangbangs.
If she did actually talk about gangbangs then please tell me I'm wrong so I can laugh at finally learning the reason why she's a 2view.

>> No.73747372

>>73735198
release ar live in their channel and stop fucking paywalling mikoto new year glorified karaoke

>> No.73748446

>>73735198
they should hire me for the next wave. i will fix niji en.

>> No.73748623

>>73735198
1 hour alone with da Wose

>> No.73748740

>fire all the boys
>make the remaining girls and Riku do naked dogeza on stream
done, forgiven

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>>73735198
Nui giving me a paizuri

>> No.73748914

>>73735635
KEK

>> No.73749181

>>73735198
Complete termination of the entire clique

>> No.73749281

>>73748806
same

>> No.73749546

>>73747329
Eh given its Niji, being a criminal is also as possible, Riku does not seem to understand the concept of background checks

>> No.73749969
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>>73749546
And this isn't just an EN issue, remember that dude that entered with the clear spoken intent of banging the girls?

>> No.73750542

>>73749969
I still have no fucking clue how he made it past the checks or what Anycolor saw in him to begin with.

>>73747329
I saw the clip but she never said anything besides a joke about "getting kicked out of heaven" for a reason. It's still ironic though that she ended up being more mature than some of the male talents that are higher up on the "purity test", which is another indication not to take it as gospel and just as a conversation piece like horoscopes.

>> No.73750912

>>73746620
It's so disappointing that Aia went from cute nerd to heavy makeup slut.

>> No.73751587

>>73750542
>I still have no fucking clue how he made it past the checks
By not telling them his twitter handle?

>> No.73751742

love how these comments keep going into firing the bulk of the talents.
could these sad antis glow any harder?

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73751960

>>73735198
>believe in them again, vt?
my man, I didn't believe in them in the first place

>> No.73752327

>>73735198
>fire Elira, Vox, Enna
>Strictly enforced CGDCT
>total seperation of EN and JP management
this is just the starting point for me to consider it

>> No.73752470

>>73751742
13 livers took part of Millies GC stream
0 consequences so far for any of them so yes, total NijiCN death

>> No.73752922

>>73735198
don't focus on /vt/, focus on your core demographic.
you already have rabid supporters with those chinese doxx-loving teenage girls. keep your business there and you should be good

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>> No.73753031
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73753031

>> No.73753159

>>73750542
He made it past the checks because his quotes were from obscure streams nobody watched, but somehow got leaked to 2ch after his debut. There was basically no possible way to vet that.

>> No.73753905
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73753905

>>73735198
They can burn in hell for what they did to Sayu, Mint and Doki.

>> No.73754161

>>73735198
terminate all males and the songbird with the annoying voice

>> No.73754792

>>73735198
riku cuts off one of his fingers live on stream.

>> No.73755999

>>73735327
FPBP

>> No.73758100

>>73753905
Once in a lifetime opportunity

>> No.73758901

>>73753905
>for what they did to Sayu
https://vocaroo.com/1dcH4VvJG1jn

>> No.73759119

>>73735198
apology and anyone that is able to pull off a collab with a Holo EN thats not Kiara/ Mori/ Nerissa/ Bae

>> No.73760248

>>73759119
But anon, Kiara is HoloEN

>> No.73760565

>>73758901
where's the second?, that's my favorite man.

>> No.73760578

>>73739627
>Luca is outted as a rapist
? Don't tell you retards actually bought the screenshot where menhera groomer confirmed Luca's mom interrupted their e-sex?

>> No.73761569

>>73735635
Is that the real song they sang?

>> No.73761670

>>73739234
Based nijiGAWD

>> No.73761828 [DELETED] 
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73761828

Fuck dramatrannies
Fuck holocuckolds
Fuck phaseBLACKEDS
I'll never stop ballin' and redditNIGGERS like you will never ever be women

>> No.73761932

>>73761569
yeah

>> No.73761955
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73761955

The beginning of the end was when the males made unannounced appearances in collabs

>> No.73761983

>>73760578
NTA but the problem is that even if you take her the vast majority of her claims with a grain of salt, written by what is essentially a jilted ex-lover, he still gave out roughly 2 years worth of confidential information that someone was able to weaponize and for dramafags to benefit off of. He may not have gotten seriously hurt himself, but other less popular people in the company were caught up in the crossfire, like the situation with Aster and Scarle.
Lets be generous though and say 10% of what she said is real at most, and that Aster wasn't a rapist but definitely had problems with coworkers of the female kind. That's still a problem, especially now that such information and more is in the public eye.

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>>73761932

>> No.73763593

>>73735198
They already ran my oshi out of the company after treating her like shit for 2 years. There's absolutely nothing they can do to make me believe in them ever again. Even if they start rolling out the red carpet for the girls now, I really don't give a fuck because my oshi isn't receiving any of it.

>> No.73764057

>>73761828
>Fuck phaseBLACKEDS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtDPJ17-JdA
You know what they say about glass houses.

>> No.73764190

>>73764057
ain't no fucking way that's what the outfit is called

>> No.73764201

>>73764057
Such a god-tier costume tho.

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>>73764057
The queen of WHAT?!

>> No.73764322

>>73735198
enna naked dogeza followed by execution

>> No.73764347

>>73764057
Fukkin kek, forgot about that

>> No.73764451

>>73764190
Well, on one end you have to remember that Ethyria went with the cards theme for their second outfits. On the other hand, its taken on a different context in coomer circles and its an easy potshot to take at Enna since she's probably well aware of the context.

>> No.73764486

>>73764057
still can't believe this is real

>> No.73764505

>>73764451
the way that people get around that is by using the other named cards
nobody blinks at ace of spades, but queen?

>> No.73764592

>>73764277
I'll give her props for outright saying her fans are cucks like that tho.

>> No.73764635

>>73764451
>and its an easy potshot to take at Enna since she's probably well aware of the context.
Poor Enna, couldn't even get a real one so she had to settle with a wigger like Kyo...

>> No.73764720

>>73764505
Considering that it was made by a JP artist, its more than likely that it was possibly made with a more innocent point of view, unaware of the way its viewed in the mutts region. But considering that Enna partnered up with a wigger like Kyo, it just became easy trolling fodder.

>> No.73764855

>>73764720
that's a simple solution of just saying
>hey this one has weird context, can we just do two aces/jacks and two queens

>> No.73765102

>>73749546
Only background that matters is if you have a bunch if followers on twitter

>> No.73765910

>>73764057
Jannies are trannies and deleted my post but meanwhile in phase connect
https://files.catbox.moe/s4t2dn.webm

>> No.73765919

>>73735198
Like what filipinos do, by using the kaingin system, burning all the trees(livers) down, and plant new ones.

>> No.73766055

>>73735635
Thrse corpses got rythm

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>>73765910
>singing songs about having your pussy stretched by BBC
Based as fuck

>> No.73766415

>>73765910
That's funny but it still doesn't change the fact you used an Enna picture while complaining about that. She's the ambassador you know?

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>>73766415
Show me the video of Enna sleeping with black men on TV like it happens in phase connect, lmao

>> No.73766550

Unironically nothing that they would be willing to do

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73766933

>>73766545
Do phasecucks REALLY?

>> No.73767236

>>73735198
burn it down and build it up new including managment

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>>73746258
>>73746368
?

>> No.73769773

Luca Kaneshiro Drama isn't even the first result when you type in "Luca Kaneshiro D"

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>>73746258
>>73769773
Oh damn it's real

>> No.73769952
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73769952

Don't let this baitthread distract you from the fact nijisanji's stock is being artificially propped up while the rest of the japanese market tumbles down, Yesterday it was minus 70 before going back up and today it was minus 50

>> No.73770384

Total Restructuring, revamping of all the current talent's contracts with a new fair contract, firing of staff and replacing with well paid full time positions. staffers that know what they hell they are doing. Better merch cut. No bullying policy in place, and total transparency.
And that would only get them a restart back to net 0 for me. After that they have to earn it back. But I would at least give them a chance then.

>> No.73770930

>>73769952
did they not lose like 18 million USD for the buyback? You mean they are using some other means?

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>>73770930
Look at these two humps the last couple days. They were falling at the same pace as cover corp both times.. and then they bounced back up. One day can be written off as buying the dip. But two big drops and recoveries in a row?. While the rest of the ENTIRE japanese stock market is falling with no such bounce?. Yeah there is something off about this

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73773620

>>73769773
It is.
>>73769830
You're searching Google. Search Youtube in Incognito mode.

>> No.73774166

>>73735198
Just delete the black stream. What a horrendous PR blunder.

>> No.73774650

Time machine that goes back to Lazudia days then instead of hiring ethyria put them in a woodchipper and then don't hire anyone after that

>> No.73774815

>>73774166
Not good enough. Elira, Vox and Ike all need to apologize for it and explain what was going through their heads when they made it. I will personally Streisand Effect that shit unless that happens.

>> No.73775380

When it’s buried 6 feet under and stops moving

>> No.73777690

>>73774166
That would be admitting they were wrong, so it's never going to happen.

>> No.73778320

Putting their money into a big project. It just seems like they cheap out on a lot of things and it really shows. Show that you care about the quality of what you put out.

>> No.73778521

>>73739627
>This slowly infected the entire branch into being nothing but sex and flirting every fucking stream
??????????

>> No.73778851

>>73778521
That's unicorn brain rot. Disregard.

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>>73778851
ok cuck

>> No.73779182

>>73736003
What's crazy is they let go of all their once-in-a-lifetime talents. Pomu and Selen, and arguably Nina are all gone. There's no heavy hitters left.

>> No.73779740

>>73742591
In my head, the mindbroken sisters are mostly inconsequential to what is going to happen over the coming year and next.
>>73769952
>>73771127
stock market is weird
madness of the people 'n shit
there's a reason why people will make general statements like "investor trust has been damaged" and avoid making statements about any particular short-term direction
that's because for every x people that gtfo, there are y people that bite the discount
that's all to say that i don't think you can make an argument for manipulation based on the chart alone

>> No.73779876

I have no idea what any of this is about. I leave tabloid-tier drama on the supermarket racks where they belong. Are you all a bunch of women?

>> No.73784214

>>73752470
oh no anon is butthurt, somebody think of the children! his fragile feelings!

>> No.73784335

>>73752327
wasn't the issue the fact that management IS separate and EN management was the friends and diversity hires of a seething Luxiem fangirl in the first place?

>> No.73784454

>>73735198
I never believed in them. They are a company, a business, not a person. What am I supposed to believe in? Their ability to make money? That's certainly flown out the window.

>> No.73784778

>>73779876
women and 14 year olds so starved for a crumb of drama they are LARPing as the "evil nijifans defending the evil managers- oh wait they got the boot, the evil company's actions" and the "with old management gone we must take it on ourselves to harass every liver into graduation by suicide" group while writing highschool drama level fanfiction

>> No.73784948

NAKED
DOGEZA

>> No.73785498

>>73735198
Biggest one would be if Niji fires Luca, airing out all the shit he did that broke his contract. That's gonna be a good start to getting back people's trust.

>> No.73785553

>>73735198
Rosemi, get out of there. there's no way to restore the branch. they might as well make a new branch under a different name under new administration and pray to the gods that it works.

>> No.73785797

>>73743253
>What I wonder is how they can even get new viewers with their nuclear reputation?
Not just viewers but new livers too. Anyone joining in now knows you'll get treated like shit and the only way you'll do decent would be if you started sucking Elira, Luca and Tazumi's dicks first time you get in and even then unless you're a guy, you'll always get the short end of the stick

>> No.73785956

>>73735198
Riku steps down as CEO and sells the company to someone who actually has a passion for Vtubers.
Riku distribute 98% of his personal wealth to Livers and apologize to them.
Livers apologize for their past crappy behavior and stop badmouthing talent from other companies.

>> No.73789982

>>73735198
LOL

>> No.73790419

They're tainted forever for me. Not because they tried to expand their brand with male chuubas, I'm not a deluded unicorn. It's the overall lack of management, personal investment and respect for their talents that killed them for me.

>> No.73790520

>>73785956
Sony will buy Nijisanji, scrap it for parts and put Mito in Vee.

>> No.73790831

We take every Niji liver.
We give them play button PNGs as models.
Now no one can complain they don't get their own play buttons.

>> No.73791734

>>73779876
>i don't care but i will post and tell you all about how i don't care, look at how i don't care you should stop caring too!!!
lol

>> No.73791832

>>73735198
Total death to nijienigger

>> No.73792105

>>73791734
i mean you really should.

>> No.73792119

>>73735198
Public use Elira

>> No.73792546

So, this really is just an e-celebrity board. It all makes sense now. Nobody here actually cares about the craft or the medium. God, I hate neurotypicals so damn much.

>> No.73792582

>>73792546
Normal people like celebrities and gossip. You're the neurodivergent one.

>> No.73793111

>>73736001
I don't get why people are so obsessed with Sayu, she was a literal who that was there for like 5 minutes and mostly has a career now in being a dramafag selen-lite. I don't give a shit about Niji but I feel like 90% of Sayu's fans are just from people who are already in hate with the black corpo and want more excuses to bitch about them.

>> No.73793170

>>73792582
That's why I typed "neuroTYPICAL". Please, learn to read.

>> No.73793217

>>73737059
God I wish she'd been successful so you people would follow her. I don't give a shit about Nijisanji, but I am sick to death of the board being extra retarded the last month. We don't need 100,000 threads about every time Doki tweets and every time Niji's stock price drops further and every time the corpo does anything, because at this point I see more about Nijisanji on this board than I do about decent content creators, and I feel like that's the opposite of what should be happening.

>> No.73793223

>>73790520
Mito will hopefully end up in VAllureJP

>> No.73793508

>>73738116
I want Aia fired too.

>> No.73793568

Public shame of bullied and clique . apologies and punishments
Be transparent on number milking tactics like 3 day long birthday celebrations and graduation stream part 2
Luca termination
Stop using bots for engagement on Twitter

>> No.73793659

>>73793111
she broke the news first but noone belived her.

>> No.73793704

>>73735198
Why don't they just terminate the bullies? That would literally fix all their problems.

>> No.73793706

>>73736001
there's a big issue with #3...
if they were to do that, they'd have to do it with JP too or those guys will bitch to eternity.

>> No.73793732

>>73793704
in their investors' eyes, those are all moneymakers.

>> No.73793736

>>73793170
autist

>> No.73793792

>>73793704
mangement too. but they're trying to pretend they're growing. my guess is we will see some shit after the q4

>> No.73794751

>>73784948
Only their feet need to be naked. And beaten. With rods.

>> No.73795091

>>73793732
They don't even terminate the people in JP who aren't bullies but do awful things.
There's a certain person whose doxxed two different viewers, and even though at the time he was barely a 3view and currently is a 2view... he should've been booted the second it became a pattern.

>> No.73795172

>>73785956
>Riku distribute 98% of his personal wealth to Livers
Anon I want Riku to go broke and have to actually earn money himself more than anyone on /vt/ but that isn't happening even with a court order which itself is not going to happen. Plus that would include the shitty people like Luca, Vox, Elira, Enna and Millie and they don't deserve that kind of money.

>> No.73795261

>>73739627
>>73740019
god I miss 2021. Things looked so bright back then. I really did love Niji up until 2022...
I was hoping it'd just be another year or so before selen would get tired of everything and quit, but I didn't think it'd take THIS long and end like THAT

>> No.73795761

>>73735198
I never stopped. As long as Elira and Vivi are there and seem to be happy, I believe in them.

>> No.73795929

>>73743364
None if that is correct, the REAL warning signs were
when chinese women started showing up to streams around Luxiems debut

>> No.73796985

>>73735198
AnyColor going bankrupt.

>> No.73797102

>>73735327
this
based
fpbp
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