/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

AAAAAIIIIEEEEEE KFPBROS????

Niji L

>>73762158
implies KFP care

>>73762158
What kinda rent free is this

>>73762158
bibros... not like this...

>>73762100
Damn what happened holokek I thought jap was doing his best to keep girls away from the boys.

I bet they asked fwmc and they said no after seeing the blue homo in lmao

>>73762100
Based Altare I'd let him fuck my oshi

>>73762100
Who care that they send they litteraly who to try, and fail, to promote their worthless brand?

>>73762687
You aren't a hololive fan fuck off back to your niji general

>the NDF are still seething
Wew

>>73762158
>>73762530
Everyone knows stars and holos never interact at cons. People have been posting this stale bait every time they show up at cons. Nobody is falling for it retard.

>>73762602
>>73762158
Nijisisters you do realize that Hololive EN and Holostars EN have been to the same cons multiple times before right? It's not mixed. Not even the Hololive Meet ambassadors do stuff together. Who are you trying to fool? We already know Kiara has a solo panel even. This angle doesn't work

>>73762602
>>73762675
>>73762713
retard

>>73762853
>>73762890
Holostars = Hololive

>>73762602
...Are beggars/nijifags seriously trying to cuckpost an anime con? What is this mental illness. Get over the bully clique being rejected already.

>"A Holostar & a Hololive will both be digitally attending an event on the same day!
>"Clearly this means they are sharing a single hotel room & fucking raw for hours!"
Why for the love of god are anons like this?

>>73762687
Based and cuckpilled

>>73762918
>>73762890
Looks like jap sent his damage control squad early.

>>73762100
I see, that's why they got the green light

>>73763133
Nijifags final cope because whorethyria got rejected.

>>73762100
I dont care. Give me my boy Beefcake McGainz

>>73763133
>"Clearly this means they are sharing a single hotel room & fucking raw for hours!"
I'm already fantasizing about this.

>>73763133
You fags weren't thinking like this when you harassed both kronii and mori over male collabs

>>73763245
Point the finger at yourself, anon, I only ever just watched streams that lookef fun.

>>73762100
I don't know why you fags think this is a big deal when the homos have been joining these kinds of events for a while.

I don't care, as long as Cover is filling those spaces Nijisanji left, its a win for me, it could be the blue homo or the janitor at the Cover offices for all I care.

>>73762100
I shouldn’t praise a homo but honestly good on him for sticking it out after being matched up with those unabashed schizophrenics.

Set up for failure but he’s still here.

>>73762100
Couldnt afford bettel?

>>73763245
Counterpoint, Mori actually interacts with males.

>>73763301
I wasn't harassing them over male collabs like a lot of you retards did you seethe so much about them this shithole fabricated horse porn audio of them

>>73763460
What the fuck else is he going to do? Return to 100 viewer PL? Work at wendys? He has no skills. Him axel and hakka will probably never quit until hololive dies.

>>73762100
>>73762530
Now it makes perfect sense

>>73763528
Nah thats Ollie and Kobo

>>73762100
he's the boo to biboo

>itt least obvious bait attempt by nijisisters

No amount of shitposting can save the fags abysmal number

>>73763509
Bettel is time traveling. Whatever the fuck that means. The rest of his gen is in Japan so it's very likely he's going back there.

>>73763723
No amount of numberfagging will dissolve their branch.

>>73763723
Like Yagoo cares, we been sending the dudes message and screenshots about how much of a money pit that branch is and the guy just promotes them harder instead of doing the smart thing and shutting the branch down

>>73763081
aki's opinion on this matter should be disregarded
she already took a hit for her eceleb shit by getting less money and views during her latest 3D musical but didn't get the message

>>73763723
>Abysmal number
Idk for zero hype and all this random hate that's still 50% the ccv of NijiEN's all-branch AR Live that was hyped up for over a year.

>>73763815
Your insecurities against other men does not count as smart things.

>>73763815
Based YAGOD. Not bending to knee to schizos.

>>73763815
Let it bite him back, the writing is already on the wall.

>>73763081
Oh it's you
>>73724938
Thank you for showing us who has been spamming bait and cuckposts all day. And yet there are still retards who will side with the shitposters.

>>73762100
This will be the turning point in HomoEn.
Some members are not happy with the favoritism, they are already calling it an ELIRA 2.0.

>>73763868
Good thing your opinions get disregarded everywhere else huh?

>>73763962
2 more weeks before Holostars fail right sister?
>>73763983
This is true. The dreams I have are real, trust me.

>>73763723
boggles my mind that homofans DARE to equal hololive and holostars after shit like this...
and they took studio time for it and basically are given same high quality 3D girls are getting... fucking crazy and they STILL demand shit

https://twitter.com/OffKaiExpo/status/1780023385658953879
BUT WAIT, THERE IS MORE

SHITS ONLY GETTING CRAZIER

>>73763509

>>73764041
>Homofags calling others sister
o im laffin

>>73762530
No one cares, they don’t interact at all

>>73763985
who cares? she's fucking DELUSIONAL
but she'll learn the hard way that VCR audience doesn't stick for idolshit (already her rust numbers are pretty low BTW)

>>73764134
>he doesn't know

>>73764104
Literally who cares?

>>73764104
>>73764110
>>73763509
KWAB

>>73764104
>>73764110
Biboo, Bluefag, Bettel? Could be an interesting trio

>>73764075
>Cover is able to give high quality models to even their underachieving branch while Nijisanji gives their top tier talent that makes more money than Holostars 2007 tier GMod 3d models

I don't know why but this is so funny to me

>>73764180
Oh yeah. After joining VCR Ark and VCR GTA 2 I'm sure she'll stop joining VCR events after this one. Surely.

>>73763436
>Cover's actual Janny is introduced, then gets model and a 3D before Krisis

>>73764117
>Doubles down on the Kurosanji executive mindset
Yes. Thanks for admitting.

Aki already lost my respect when she and that brown Stars guy fucked after that Street Fighter Stream

>>73764075
I'm thankful Cover isn't a black company. You look like Kurosanji material..did you know they're hiring?

>>73763723
>holo vs holo

>>73764263
I didn't say that?

>>73764394
AIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEE HOLOSTARS IS NOT HOLOLIVE REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>73764436
It's okay. I said it for you.

>>73763815
FAGOO is a fucking retard, he should be replaced by Dimitri Jap as the CEO.

>>73762713
Incredible attempt at English. Good job.

>>73764561
>Assuming they'll allow a SEAnigger to lead a Japanese company
Lol lmao

>>73764381
Well if fags like you were thankful that would be fine, but you are begging fucking NON STOP about homocollabs and other dumb bullshit. Like let's not pretend people (like you) weren't saying that it is cover's fault that homos are unpopular because girls do not really collab with them. And other insane shit like this
I would like to see what the fuck is going on inside aki's head that she decided equate holostar to hololive for no fucking reason at all

>>73763509
Thanks anon

Kiara needs someone to relive her sexual tension during the con so Nerissa should be next.

>>73762530
>>73763081
>>73763983
>>73764187
sisters, why can't you just be pleased your runts get panel appearances in the first place? You already know it's going to be exactly like every other con and the homos are going to have their own slot.

>>73764104
>>73764110
>Sir, a fifth plane...

>>73763723
Homos will say they are hololive then get uppity when they are actually compared to hololive.

>>73764800
You're falling for the homobeggarsbeggars bait again

>>73762100
>everyone can feel safe
KEK

>>73764800
Because Nijifags are mad that they lost their panels so they are trying to turn everyone they can against the people that replaced them

>>73764846
I make no distinction between nijisisters and homofags in the 'log, they are mostly the same people. The good ones stick to /MANS/

>>73764654
>But you are begging fucking NON STOP about homocollabs and other dumb bullshit
I've yet to see this other than the imaginary scenes you made up in your head. On the other hand, unicorns that have been whining NON STOP is why you're treated like trash by almost everyone.
>Like let's not pretend people (like you) weren't saying that it is cover's fault that homos are unpopular because girls do not really collab with them.
No one has said this though.
>I would like to see what the fuck is going on inside aki's head that she decided equate holostar to hololive for no fucking reason at all
You're the same people that tell these """beggars""" to leave Kanata alone yet go out of your way to dictate what homocollabers do with their own time, proving that people like you deserve to get shit on every chance and it's morally justified.

>>73762100
Homoshits will stay forever in their cuck corner

>>73764180
>Delusional
Ironic innit?

>>73762100
Dude needs a 2.0 or brush/touch up (whatever the official term is called) asap. I cannot believe how unprofessional Cover Corp was by not going full bishounen and ikemen with ALL FOURTH of the original Holostars and basically only Axel won the ticket and look how well it transitioned to his 3D while Regis looks exactly the same.

>>73764654
>>73765022
You guys are both retards because I've seen both of what you guys are describing in the wild and yet each of you denies the other strawman exists.

>>73764654
>Suddenly starts caring about Aki
You can stop pretending now

I wish nothing but the most painful death to unicorns and false flaggers.

Enjoy it while it lasts faggots

>>73765607
>Assuming Cover would pull such a Kurosanji move
Two more weeks sister. I'm sure it'll happen.

>>73765540
I did.

>>73765330
There's no such thing as "beggars" mate. If they were such a problem, they'd be shit on as bad as unicorns

>>73763112
Ironic using Ame, from all possible hollows, to post this.

>>73765328
Sorry we only promote stupid stances and funny material from them here in StarsEN

>>73765237
Projecting this hard even though you're in the cuck corner yourself is unhealthy.

>>73765803
They do exist, they're all on Twitter or r/okbuddyhololive. You can see the really deranged unicorns on Twitter getting into retarded fights with them sometimes. It's all so stupid anyways, I hate you all.

>>73765607
this literally will never happen (sadly)

>>73764446
Cope sister

>>73762100
I just hope nobody antis the girls again when the holostars get ignored or segregated.

>>73765803
no matter how much you cope motherfuckers facts are - homos take away studio time from girls (they even made up new rules about only 1 guaranteed 3D live for a year) while bringing on 10 times less views and money.
They are failures and fucking leeches

>>73765607
>unitroons have to make fake images to cope with holostar's success now
Stick to making AI unicorns kek

>>73764331
Holy schizo

>>73766011
in this exact moment aki had probably like 7-9k views meanwhile this dumb blue fucker had 700
he's not hololvie he's shitty fucking leech and also a garbage human being

Technically they are but are not

Btw the "unicorn" flying into a rage in this thread is a ban evading schizo who has even gotten banned in /#/ because he's too obnoxious even for them.

>>73766132
hololive production is another failed attempt by cover to make stars and their other dumb projects relevant by slapping hololive name on it... It didn't work for obvious reasons and will never work. Just like holostars will never be hololive no matter how much homobeggars cope and seethe

So this is the sequel of >>73724938 while I was sleeping. Same patter of answers. If that anon who cared enough to answer to retarded anti-stars faggots is here, kudos to you, it won't matter how well articulated and realistic your replies to the fucks who act like if they have a say on Holostars are, this place is simply an asylum worth laughing at and maybe study.

>>73765941
>And this 5-10 screenshoots with these 5 gray names on Yotube chat and 5 redditors redditors on r/okbuddyhololive and twitter proves the actually have an army of ten of thoousands, my fellow mentally ill unicorsn, we must destroy these monsters once and for all
>#FORTHEGARDEN

>>73765803
beggars do exist but its just overblown, and its not just for the guys. if you ever read stream chat and super chats you always see questions like when are you gonna collab with x or why dont you collab with x anymore. its not just a vtuber thing either

>>73764654
You and the rest of you unicorn fucks are the ones with cock on your mind 24/7, fucking neck yourself you turbo nigger.

>>73763868
>aki's opinion on this matter should be disregarded
Aki's been working there for 6 years, she clearly knows more about the company than you.

>>73762100
Literally who?

>>73766374
she didn't even interact with stars for like 5 out of this 6 years lmao what are you even TALKING about

>>73766306
>And this 5-10 screenshoots with these 5 gray names on Yotube chat and 5 redditors redditors on r/okbuddyhololive and twitter proves the actually have an army of ten of thoousands, my fellow mentally ill unicorsn, we must destroy these monsters once and for all
>#FORTHEGARDEN
Anon, the exact same argument applies to the "unicorns" you think are everywhere. Do you not see the irony in your post?

>>73766358
nobody was even talking about anything "unicorn" related, are you mentally ill?

>>73764654
Man, you really need to kill yourself. Bet you are one of the fucks from yesterday in here >>73724938

>>73766499
Ok and now she is. Is that a problem?

The absolute irony of fucking NEETs shitposting on a Mongolian basket weaving forum calling other people leeches.

>>73766546
unicorns at least buy shit
what the fuck do homobeggars do? they don't even watch hololive
obviously there are not a lot of them - stars aren't really popular in the first place

>>73766493
based enduranceGOD uyu

>>73766653
I'm not talking to you, stay out of my argument.
I'm talking to the retard who thinks that homobeggars are pointed out, it doesn't count and they are nonrepresentative, but when unicorns are pointed out, they are suddenly representative and a huge factor.

>>73764104
>>73764110

>>73766586
You'd lose the bet
>>73766602
Problem is that she's equating them to hololive which is hypocritical of her btw when she was fucking ignoring them for years... It's kinda hilarious actually. Like what the fuck is she talking about? Does she think NOW they are hololive and weren't when she was ignoring them?
Tho the real answer is that she's fucking stupid and has no idea what the fuck she's saying (evident by her twitch bans fucking arc lol)

>>73766883
>(evident by her twitch bans fucking arc lol)
That was Matsuri.

>>73766801
Because you faggots piss, shit and moan to anyone that will perceive you any fucking time you dumb shits don’t like how a girl acts. Homobeggars at the most just put their passive aggressive comments and that’s about it. You’d think the Holomem you fags are crying about was gassing fucking Jews with the way you carry on.

>>73764104
>>73764110
Bettel… my beloved and mentally ill boyfailure…

>>73766131
Unicornsissies are so mad at this

>>73762530
Wait for real? Aw shit maybe I should buy a ticket after all...

>>73762530
>Biboo, Altare, Bettel and Kiara are sharing a room together with a single bed
Hmmmmm what's going on at cover?

>>73767101
Well cover has actual Management so you won't get the fuckfest that Niji had for their Christmas party.

>>73763528
at least change pic names lmao
>>73580562
>>/vt/image/Jf+Yn3tAtxGwHd7MTKRPbQ

>>73767002
So...passive aggressive comments on YouTube, Twitter, and /vt/. It's the exact same shit my dude. Or are you talking about anti comments? I can find anti comments made by unicorns (calling people whores and implying they are grifters) and I can also find anti comments made by homobeggars (incidentally also calling people whores and implying they are grifters, just a different set of people).
Btw I'm not a unicorn or a beggar i like watching girls and guys separately which is why I can tell everyone involved that they're fucking retarded.

>>73767101
Biboo is going to give everyone kidney stone. Then she and kiara gonna have super ultra hot lesbian sex while bettel and altare get sent to the hospital. This is all real. Trust me!!!

>>73767101
This isn't Nijisanji anonchama

>>73767101
Altare hates women though

>>73766957
No I'm talking about the recent one.
She's fucking lucky shit got sorted out before VCR

>>73767255
He doesn't really care about being caught, he's a proud Mori anti and one of the people shitting up every catalog thread

>>73767020
Of course they are. There's no real argument to why holostars should be considered hololive. They simply are not

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>>73767380
I'm being honest have they even said they're not sharing beds?

>>73767002
>Because you faggots piss shit and moan to anyone
the lack of self-awareness is outstanding

>>73767581
Are you unironically trying to force your cuck fantasy? Lmao

>>73767581
You don't understand how society works do you?

>>73767581
Do you make up cuck fantasies and then project them onto other people? Because that's exactly what you're doing right now.

>>73767002
>Because you faggots piss, shit and moan to anyone that will perceive you any fucking time you dumb shits don’t like how a girl acts
Keep projecting lmao
Hololive grew as big as it is now while not interacting with homos or pretty much anyone else really... And suddenly it's "we" are pissing and shitting about girls? When YOU were doing it for years when they ignored (and most of them keep ignoring) stars? fucking lol
We just want you crazy fuckers who don't even buy shit to fuck off. It's that simple. Holos who wanted to collab with stars were doing it for years (like fubuki or suisei or whatever)

>>73767581
...hey i think you should get off from /vt/. Im not trying to be rude or anything but you should awlays come here with atleast a logical mind. Tell me exactly why do you think they'll share beds...??

>>73767581
>>73767248
>>73767101
>>73762530
are you cuck faggots this retarded? They're going to be doing skype calls into a small ass presentation room, they're not at the convention

If homos didn't exist, neither would any of their antis. It's their fault for creating a toxic environment for idols (females only, men cannot be idols).

>>73767581
are you stockholm'd by the uki surprise cuckery sister?

>>73768315
I don't know. BTS have been doing pretty well for themselves. Maybe try to stick to the girls that still don't collab with homos instead of invading their chats?

>>73768315

>>73767581
lay off the NTR hentai and seek help please, im begging you

Both sides of this Unicorn/Beggar debate are really fucking stupid.
Shit stirers will be shit stirers
Schizos will be schizos
Chances are your oshi, male or female, ignores these homobeggar requests or anti male trolling no problem, why cant you do the same?
Just stick to who you like and pretend the other doesnt exists if you want, it'll make your general enjoyment of this hobby much better.
I dont like male vtubers but my oshis have nothing to do with them, so I dont waste my energy screaming about their existence... [/spoilers]

>>73762530
Is this photoshopped

Let's go sister fisters

>>73768312
>skype
darkagechama...

>>73767994
>Hololive grew as big as it is now while not interacting with homos or pretty much anyone else really...
It grew big during Covid like every other chuuba that debuted in that time. Without the pandemic buff they'd still be humble and you wouldn't see Gen 5 until much later. Before Gen 3 they were pretty open with everybody even other homos.
>Hololive grew as big as it is now while not interacting with homos or pretty much anyone else really... And suddenly it's "we" are pissing and shitting about girls?
According to the constant reposting of age old bait threads and constant breaking of containment. Yeah, I'd think so. I've yet to see any ""beggar"" doing what you're doing.

>>73768443
BUT I NEED TO BE VINDICATED!!!

>>73762100
DONT tell OP all HOLOSTARS was on HOLOFEST MEET N GREET

>>73768443
>Hololive are too busy having lesbian sex
>Holostar are too busy having gay sex
Whats the problem here?! Theres Fuwawa raping the shit out of her own sister. Then theres Hakka being a personal onahole for Rio. Straight people dont exist on both branch

>>73762100
>>73762530
Huh, I wonder what changed between last year and this year? Was it the magni/vesper implosion? Did it make them realize avoiding one of the only vtuber focused conventions was a stupid move?

We'll probably never find out but it's interesting to think about.

Crying to reddit janny and where did it get you?

>>73768804
Pester was a legitimate sex pest to Kronii, which is why he was terminated, and Fagni tried to put the moves on Gura but realized he'd never be accepted by the girls so he left like the grifter he is. Heard he's streaming to less than 200 people nowadays kek.

>>73768588
>It grew big during Covid like every other chuuba that debuted in that time.
who asked? that's not the point
as far as grows concerned the biggest holos are what you'd call "unicorn friendly" - pekora, marine, miko (gura lol)
>Without the pandemic buff they'd still be humble and you wouldn't see Gen 5 until much later.
what the fuck even is this? EVERYBODY had pandemic buff there's no fucking point to discuss it
>Before Gen 3 they were pretty open with everybody even other homos.
Not really? Gamers didn't interact with them, 2nd gen didn't interact with them, most of 1st gen didn't. And outside of hololive collabs were rather limited too.
Like what the fuck are you even talking about? Do you even watch hololive???
>I've yet to see any ""beggar"" doing what you're doing.
What am I doing?

>>73768899
>Straight people gets terminated
I see the answer

>>73768837
Management changed + inertia from the change

>>73768588
Why didn't you respond to me? >>73767283

>>73768899
They were not terminated...

>>73768523
it's actually zoom because the talent don't give out their discord.

>>73768899
Making shit out his ass and retards here will believe it

>>73769152
>Have sex with this smelly gay ojisan and keep your job or
>Termination but we will write as "graduation" because theres hope in that ass of yours
I think they made their choice

>>73768899
This isn't true, but since it makes the homos looks worse I'll keep repeating it until it becomes fact.

>>73769447
And everytime you'll get shat on for it.

Do not let this baitthread distract you from the fact nijisanji's stock is being artificially held up while the entire rest of the Japanese market continues to fall, Yesterday it was -70 the same as cover corp and today it was -50 before "miraculously" rebounding back up to negligible losses

>>73769559
Too late. Anon took the bait. Hell they're even having sex with the bait.

>>73769496
I love when people shit on my face I even rub the shit from my face around my penis and use as masturbation lube so it's fine if people shit on me.

>>73768985
>who asked? that's not the point
as far as grows concerned the biggest holos are what you'd call "unicorn friendly" - pekora, marine, miko (gura lol)
That is the point. Hololive grew this big only because of COVID. If they didn't their growth would be steady.
>what the fuck even is this? EVERYBODY had pandemic buff there's no fucking point to discuss it
Yeah everybody. Niji partook in it. Don't pretend that it wasn't.
>Not really? Gamers didn't interact with them, 2nd gen didn't interact with them, most of 1st gen didn't. And outside of hololive collabs were rather limited too.
Like what the fuck are you even talking about? Do you even watch hololive???
How could you forget about the collabs with Niji pre-covid? Mind you they had homos before Homostars existed. Miko, Subaru, and Ayame were prime examples.
>What am I doing?
A lack of self awareness is evident in all unicorns
>>73762675
>>73763460
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>>73762100
BY

POPULAR

DEMAND

>>73770044
I'm glad you agree

Female subsidized male branch.

>>73770044
Yes, that's usually how con appearances work

>>73769559
What the fuck are these dips. They look so unnatural. Falling with everything else before climbing back up. They are being forcefully held above 2300 just like they were being held above 3000 after the selen shock

>>73770004
>That is the point. Hololive grew this big only because of COVID. If they didn't their growth would be steady.
again... that's not the point... Point was YOU fuckers were trying to LEECH hololive for fucking YEARS.
Is that more understandable to you?
>How could you forget about the collabs with Niji pre-covid?
I didn't say there were NO collabs tho? They are irrelevant to homobeggars anyway. There are no real nijibeggars cause their fanbase is fucking hostile to everything even themselves.
>Mind you they had homos before Homostars existed
That's not...
>Miko, Subaru, and Ayame were prime examples
OF WHAT?
Like you really really missing the fucking POINT
>A lack of self awareness is evident in all unicorns
Just spell it out fag

>>73770233
riku buying the dip HIMSELF

>>73762100
MY FUARKING HERO

>NDF repeating the same old bait
So besides the AR live looking like complete shit, what else happened?

>>73767581
Why are phase cucks like this? Stop forcing your cuck fantasy on to others

>>73768899
>terminated
Nijikek once again showing how little they know about how Cover operates

>>73770233
>±50 yen
nigga what are you on?

>>73770771
I wanna rape Kira. Fucking tease

This thread just makes me think that sisters get off on NTR fantasies when they're not schlicking it to rape ASMR.

>>73768899
After watching the content of not-Vesper nobody could imagine a man more hungry for cock than him. Only dwarfed by your mom's hunger of cock.

>>73770771
AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE YOU'RE NOT MEANT TO POSST THISSSSSSSSSSS

>>73770792
The entire rest of the japanese stock market is falling with no such rebound or wave, Why is anycolor the ONLY company people are buying the dip in.. only for it to fall again?

is the increase of homo shitposts because of the shit AR, or them being in offkai, or maybe because the blue homo's rm is collabing with doki again?

>>73771321
>Why is anycolor the ONLY company people are buying the dip in.. only for it to fall again?
well you said that... now it's on you to prove it...

>>73771553
All three. Sisters are not having a good time. They even weaponized the unicorn. Its sad really

>>73771553
The latter is news to me. Probably both.

>>73771321
>the ONLY company to buy dips
?
anon are you like... retarded or something?
do you not know how trading works?

>>73770004
>Like what the fuck are you even talking about? Do you even watch hololive???
How could you forget about the collabs with Niji pre-covid? Mind you they had homos before Homostars existed. Miko, Subaru, and Ayame were prime examples
I thank niji everyday because they sided with china and collab ban most of holo. With that ban holo overtook them
>inb4 they never ban holo
Aside from niji resistance like shiina, niji management clamp down most it, even kuzuha retweet for coco graduation got recinded

>>73771061
Is that why he loves spears?

>>73771553
>or maybe because the blue homo's rm is collabing with doki again?
Oh shit, didn't know this, thanks for the heads up gonna catch that stream

>>73771815
prism bros...

>>73771821
>I thank niji everyday because they sided with china and collab ban most of holo. With that ban holo overtook them
Honestly even I forgot this (tho it's not like I care about nijisanji in the first palce) but it did indeed happen lmao
All this "anti-unicorn" shit with reposting some NDA anti-homo plans starting to sound like another falseflag by nijisisters...
Like... if we think logically what the point of equating hololive and holostars in the first place? Why insist on something that would make hololive closer to what nijisanji is? Something no hololive fan would EVER want?
Pretty fucking suspicious

>>73771309
wtf is this garbage. i refuse to believe there are more than 5 people who actually want this.

>>73763724
He wad just announced too

>>73771309
Where the fuck is this lmao. I haven't seen threads with this many flips

>>73768899

>>73772163
>Why insist on something that would make hololive closer to what nijisanji is? Something no hololive fan would EVER want?
Pretty fucking suspicious
If your view of nijification is just co-ed collabs and not the toxic environment of cliques being the head honcho with support of management then you're the one with a shallow view of something that's already causing Niji to crumble.
Now that is what no Hololive fan wants. Most don't care about co-ed of their talent wants to then they'll do it.

>>73773138
It's the flip general on this board. It's up right now.

WTF THEY GOT HIMMEL?! BASED OFFKAI

>>73770771
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THE NARRATIVE AIEEEEEEEEEE
The things I'd do to Kira while he's crossdressing ToT

>>73773330
Nvm it's not up right now. It's /tubero/

>>73773330
Yoooo I gotta see this

>>73773261
"co-ed" collabs are not the fucking point tho? you don't need to equate holostars to hololive for that
Why say holostars is hololive? What's the point? They started (and still continue) as separated entities. Why trying to join them together?
As I said it is fucking suspicious as fuck and makes no sense for any holofan to try to abolish segregation between the two. Like there's LITERALLY no point in doing it.

>>73762100
it continues to perplex me that homo collabs are almost universally hated outside of terminally online twitter idiots yet cover keeps acting as though fans want it so badly. Even the reddit sub was annoyed by it for a while.

>Muh unicorns
>muh beggars
I get a better option groom a 1view v-tuber into your perfect gf, imagine being retarded and autistic enough to fight this "le epic cultural" war

>>73773811
Nobody here puts that kind of effort anon

>>73762530
Wow, and here I was slightly worried that they had nothing after dropping Ethyria. Things have turned out much better than expected.

>>73773928
But instead they get for 4 hours into a discussion if being a normal human being and having sex is now toxic and wrong. This entire men vs women war is stupid as fuck just like the South Korean are getting into by a fucking ok symbol.

>>73773811
Most people here are just performative shitposters. They don't want to put any effort into anything, they just want to whine and get attention from people because it gives them a spark of meaning in their otherwise empty lives.

>>73770112
That's not the insult you think it is, female subsidized anon. Remember to respect your mother.

>>73774134
Because it's easier.

>>73774445
nah, i don't believe that, i've here more than 10+ years and people here are REALLY that stupid to waste years, hours and shit for a retarded idea, my favorite one is the /vn/ schizo who can't accept EOP in his media so he put a bot to derail the thread every single day, or the gamergate fag still active in /v/ obsessed with trannies, and /vt/ isn't different. Anyone who cross that "fun shitposting" to be dedicated to do this everyday is beyond retarded.

>>73770611
>crimes against our liege
Kek

>>73762530
Oh no no no Pebblebros? I thought Biboo's on the side of pure CGDCT??

>>73762100
BROTUBERCHADS EATING GOOD

>>73777018
You thought correctly

>>73773617
>Why say holostars is hololive? What's the point?
Because they belong in the same company.
>segregation
That's their choice if they want to cross that border. It's not your right to harass them if they want to.

>>73762100
Why are they still using his default art instead of his 3D?

>>73762530
unicorns btfo

>>73771553
When is not mumei collabing with doki. Not axel and not altare already did and will probably do it again.

>>73779436
When NotMumei has the balls

>>73762100
Everytime this is posted, I just imagine the person in question doing the whole "busting through the saloon doors" thing westerns do.

>>73779658
But...shes a woman...and woman dont have balls....

>>73770771
>sex pest
>sex pest
>sex pest

Only one deserving to be called that was Raito. Gee, I wonder which company hired him? Oh that's right, Niji.

>>73779036
>Because they belong in the same company.
Yet they are not hololive
What kind of fucking answer is that?
hololive is female only virtual idol group. Where the fuck holostars fit in there??
Like who gives a fuck if "they belong to the same company"? Where's the logic, motherufcker?
>That's their choice if they want to cross that border. It's not your right to harass them if they want to.
What the fuck are you even talking about you imbecile??

>>73779658
Nijisisters track the PLs then start harassing them

>>73762100
gay

>>73771725
Further proof that unicorns and NDF both need to get Alt-F4'd from the fanbase.

I can't believe Kiara and Biboo are going to be in the same building as a m*le..... thats basically the same as him creampieing them in every hole while their gachikois are forced to watch...

>>73780002
>Yet they are not Hololive.
But they are, and no amount of ridiculous cope and whatever mental gymnastics you do will change that. Got a problem? Talk to the CEO of Cover Corp.
>What the fuck are you even talking about imbecile.
You lack a couple of brain cells so let me simplify it for you.
Segregation is a choice, whether the girls want to stay in it or choose to branch out is entirely their choice. Putting the blame on a bunch of homos vtubers won't let you escape from the truth you imbecile.

>>73780002
>Where's the logic, motherufcker?
You'd have to be mentally disabled to not get it...

Anons please, japanese unicornposting was supposed to be a joke not a model to follow...

>>73780176
>But they are, and no amount of ridiculous cope and whatever mental gymnastics you do will change that. Got a problem? Talk to the CEO of Cover Corp.
holostars are female only virtual idol group?
Again why do you want mold hololive into nijisanji?
>Segregation is a choice, whether the girls want to stay in it or choose to branch out is entirely their choice. Putting the blame on a bunch of homos vtubers won't let you escape from the truth you imbecile.
that's simply delusional
they were joining hololive that was already segregated not nijisanji...
it has NOTHING to do with any collabs of any kind.
>Putting the blame on a bunch of homos vtubers won't let you escape from the truth you imbecile.
you and your retarded buddy
>>73780341
are both fucking braindead

>>73773757
>"homo collab"
>more than likely will have a M&G, so one-on-ones with fans
>will probably have a panel with Bettel (and if they announce another StarsEN member), so just the Stars boys

You keep using the word 'collab'. I don't think it means what you think it means.

Whenever Holo wins is when the nijifags crawl out of their Chinese anthill and start looking for crumbs to attack us with

Holo has supplanted Niji
Even Holostars has supplanted a majority of Niji males
NijiEN is scraping the barrel for supporters while the Holos and the Homos grow stronger, and the Niji mongrels know this

>>73780550
>Again why do you want to mold Hololive into Nijisanji
No one said anything about Kurosanji Do you have reading comprehension? Read it again and read it between the lines.
>They were joining Hololive that is already segregated
Yeah, didn't stop them from collabing didn't it?
>It has NOTHING to do with collabs of any kind
Yet here you are making a fuss over it like a baby throwing a tantrum.

>>73773261
a fucking flip general? a general for faggot sea monkey who need to get bullied more? wtf

>>73783596
>No one said anything about Kurosanji Do you have reading comprehension? Read it again and read it between the lines.
I fucking said
that fusing holostars and hololive would make it closer to nijisanji which nobody sane would want
Why don't you want for hololive to stay female only idol group? What's your angle?
>Yeah, didn't stop them from collabing didn't it?
I really don't give a fuck
>Yet here you are making a fuss over it like a baby throwing a tantrum.
why are you lying falseflagger?
holostars are not hololive that's all I'm, saying (well that and also that holostars are leeches and failures but yeah)

>>73773426
>tubero
Don't worry, Anon, /tubero/ is dead and the culture war killed it

>>73783268
And one day, they'll take the last remaining scrap of good Niji has...coeds. This is what mfs call Nijification. When in reality, its an improvement.

Capcha: prayy

>>73765237
Their concert still looks better than the AR live sis

>>73783746
Its ded now thanks to NDF disguising as unicorns and fellow flips (ugh) who sold out to be more white.

>>73763460
>>73764311
Itoru Jyan Ch

>>73784306
>>Yeah, didn't stop them from collabing didn't it?
>I really don't give a fuck
>(well that and also that holostars are leeches and failures but yeah)
You care enough to post

>>73784306
No one asked them to fuse you schizoid. Who have you been rambling to? Shouldn't you be at school or something?

>>73762530
>>73768456
yeah. they're using the wrong mugshot.

>>73780505
but EN unicorns are a joke though. can't hold a candle to the CHAD JP UNIGODS. some of them even retreated to "CGDCT enjoyers" because there's no fool proof way to "unicorn" any EN.

>>73788748
KEK

>>73762100
>>73762158
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>>73762530
DISCARD NIJI GET HOLO!
DISCARD NIJI GET HOLO!
YABBA DABBA DOOOOO!

>>73767581
Holo isn't Niji, you retard. Your cuck delusions will always be nothing more than mere delusions.

Sisters, if one of you posts tits I will watch one entire homo stream.

>>73763868
Did Miko also take a hit for Aki eceleb shit? You number monkeys don't have enough brain capacity to do it correctly, just give up and off yourself already.

>>73773409
Don't compare a random Homostar to CHADimmel.

>>73784864
And 10,000 other shitty jokes you desperate Nijinigs keep telling yourselves.

>>73790162
But he's literally Himmel sis

Nijisisters masquerading as Homobeggars. You LOOOOOOVE to see it.

>>73790329
Only in your dreams, delusional sister.

I'm not that guy but
>>73787939
>No one asked them to fuse you schizoid
>>73780176
>Yet they are not Hololive.
>But they are
You are definitely trying to fuse them and turn holo into niji. Literally everyone knows that they are not the same, so yea go back to your shithole nijisister

>>73790566
Nta, but you are retarded, sorry. Saying they are both Hololive is just stating objective reality, noone is trying to fuse anything.

>>73790447
Well, do something about it anon. I personally enjoy rustling schizo unicorns jimmies when they get baited into these threads, no reason in particular, maybe become a Jannie?

>>73790699
I'm sorry, but Hololive, Hololive Production, Holostars are all different things, it's not like you have enough brain power to understand this, but try at least

>>73765805
Ame and Altare are ENEMIES

>>73762100
It's over for the Homotroons

>>73791078
Hololive Production and Hololive is often used interchangeably by Cover themselves as you can clearly see from OP and a myriad other examples. Since Holostars are part of that they are also Hololive.It's simple logic, pretty easy for people without mental disabilities, believe it or not.
What do you think "Holo" in their name stands for? Hologram? Holomi? And why does this formal naming issue bother you so much?

>>73791386
Two more weeks, sister

>>73762100
Kys Homotroon
The Homostars are not Hololive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sjgoCTQJ8M

>>73791392
...who gives a fuck how cover uses it? they can't help themselves with plastering hololive name all over homos to make them more popular and FAILING
Why are you so retarded? And this is literally after you just stated
>No one asked them to fuse you schizoid
got fucking called out and went back to fusing them LMAO
Like who the fuck even are you? You aren't even a hololive fan. What the fuck even is this SHIT? Can you fuck off and leave hololive alone?

>>73791305
Holy shit this looks good.

>>73791423
AIEEEEEEEEE
She is olso a Vox fan btw

>>73791392
>Since Holostars are part of that they are also Hololive.
No they aren't
>It's simple logic, pretty easy for people without mental disabilities
What fucking logic? Hololive is female idol vtuber group. Holostars is male idol vtuebr group. HoloPro is fucking bran they consolidated this groups under and obviously used hololive name because already back then it was 10 times more popular than homos. Under what "logic" does it make holostars hololive? They are in holopro in the first place because they were so fucking irrelevant. Think why it's not holostars production lmao. Fuckers were leeching holos for years... Pathetic
>What do you think "Holo" in their name stands for? Hologram? Holomi? And why does this formal naming issue bother you so much?
The "issue" here is that motherfuckers like you for some fucking reason really really can't stand hololive and want to turn it into nijisanji. And that's why we are asking you why the fuck would anyone want that? Obvious answer is taht you are falseflagging nijisister. Tho you might be just a mentally ill shitposter too

>>73791558
You are overcomplicating things again, it is really simple:
Holostars are a part of Hololive Production, which is often shortened to Hololive by practically everyone, Cover, talent, fans, you name it. Doesn't matter whether you/I/anyone like it or not, it will remain a fact. It has nothing to do with your imaginary fusion, and no amount of seethe will change it.

>>73791697
Stop posting pictures of me

>>73791742

>>73791748
You too. Please, get help or end it.

>>73791539
>>73791386
>>73791877
Seethe sisters

>>73791899
>>73791909
>>73791920
>>73791942
Send more. Keep it up. Its funny

>>73791748
Why are you lying? It's shorten to holopro not hololive.
>by practically everyone
by falseflaggers and retards who want to turn hololive into nijisanji maybe?
>Cover
cover can fuck themselves they are at fault here in the first fucking place. it wouldn't be the first time they fuck shit up and damage hololive
>talent
not really no
aki's case is just her being fucking stupid (like we know she is)
usually they say hololive production if they want to talk about overall branding
usually when talent says hololive they mean hololive not holopro
>fans
lies again
when people say hololive they mean hololive and not holostars because WHY WOULD THEY? holostars much much less fucking popular and largely irrelevant. Pretty much NOBODY means holostars or holopro when they say hololive. Mostly because nobody gives a fuck about holostars
>you name it
(you)
>Doesn't matter whether you/I/anyone like it or not, it will remain a fact.
there's only one actual fact. It's that holostars are not hololive. And no amount of layers above them will change that fact. Holostars are unpopular and irrelevant. Everybody want more hololive and NOBODY wants more holostars.
So far holostars everything was a FLOP. Especially compared to hololive.
Pushing holostars into hololive will literally kill the fucking brand. It was damaging it for fucking years
>It has nothing to do with your imaginary fusion, and no amount of seethe will change it.
You don't even watch hololive lol and should shut the fuck up

>>73792051
>>73792030
>>73792005
>>73791992
>>73791961
Having a meltdown there buddy? Jakarta must be pretty hot rn

>>73792051
>>73792030
>>73792005
>>73791992
>>73791961
>>73791942
>>73791920
>>73791909
>>73791899
>>73791877
>>73791539
>>73791386
>This anon somehow have this much cock image in his pc
And you wonder why people call you a faggot.

>>73791386
I mean. Regloss flopped. Last hololive gen debuted in fucking 2021. between then and now they were debuting nothing but flops until advent.,... when everybody were waiting for gen 7. It's fucking NUTS
And they aren't stopping they want to flop another time with another dev_is gen instead of gen 7.
Overall what cover is doing is fucking insane. They should segregate stars into holostars production give them their own small studio and let them do their thing as separated entity and turn into 100% hololive company. (they should've done it back in 2019 actually)
We'll see if they learn.

>>73792131
>>73792083
Seethe more Monkey

>>73792251
You don't have to show a pic of yourself SEAmonkey

>>73791392
>Hololive Production and Hololive is often used interchangeably by Cover themselves as you can clearly see from OP and a myriad other examples.
don't matter, even if entire world will call earth flat it still will be round
>Since Holostars are part of that they are also Hololive
no they are part of hololive production, not hololive
also i will use your own words
>>73780176
>Got a problem? Talk to the CEO of Cover Corp.

>>73792019
>It's shorten to holopro not hololive
See OP
>cover can fuck themselves
Unfortunately for you their opinion is the only one that matters. I think everyone one agrees this Hololive inside Hololive thing is stupid af, but it is what it is, you can't change the facts. They could rename the agency to Ratsass Production tomorrow and all you could do would be keep seething. Just like you do now.
Too short btw, don't hold back, let us know how it really makes you feel.

It's probably after school in SEA huh... Do your homework kids.

Alright heres a thread recap. Theres currently two nigger fighting with each other for the past 5 hour now. Now enter nigger number three posting all his fucked up fetish in one go while trying his best to hide how much of a flaming faggot he is. Now sister are gonna come in and continue this gay as fuck war.

>>73792172
>They should segregate stars into holostars production
How would that affect anything you've mentioned before?

>>73792316
>See OP
See OP what, RETARD?
Do you know why it is not called holostars meet? Take a FUCKING guess.
>Unfortunately for you their opinion is the only one that matters.
In their opinion hlztl was a great fucking idea,. Well they learned the hard way. They can see all the financials too. Sooner or later they won't be able to ignore the obvious.
>I think everyone one agrees this Hololive inside Hololive thing is stupid af, but it is what it is, you can't change the facts.
Stop fucking squirming motherfucker. What "FACTS"? Facts that cover was trying to give holostars a crumb of relevance by putting them into holopro together with hololive as if they are even remotely equal? Those facts? LMAO
>They could rename the agency to Ratsass Production tomorrow and all you could do would be keep seething. Just like you do now.
Just stop trying to push irrelevant fucking homos into hololive. Why is it so hard for you?
>Too short btw, don't hold back, let us know how it really makes you feel.
Who's your oshi

>>73792568
What do you mean

>>73792283
SEA tryna be burger just as how burgers try to be Japanese. Which both end up worse.


T. SEA

>>73792336
I didn't know Fauna said that Holostars is "in Hololive".

>>73792612
>Do you know why it is not called holostars meet? Take a FUCKING guess.
No need to guess - because there are not only stars there. Quite obvious for anyone without your levels of brain damage.
>trying to give holostars a crumb of relevance by putting them into holopro together with hololive
They put them together because it's the name of their fucking agency.
>Just stop trying to push irrelevant fucking homos into hololive. Why is it so hard for you?
Not pushing anything, they are already there. Sorry, reality doesn't comply with your delusions.
>Who's your oshi
IRyS, if I had to name one, why?

>>73792651
Everything you've said about Cover "blunders", ReGloss flop (when did that happen btw, they seem to be doing just fine) etc., has nothing to do with the stars.

>>73792807
>No need to guess - because there are not only stars there. Quite obvious for anyone without your levels of brain damage.
No because holostars is irrelevant dead brand and can't stand on its own
>They put them together because it's the name of their fucking agency.
Wrong? It was decision of cover to consolidate them under holopro back in 2019
>Not pushing anything, they are already there. Sorry, reality doesn't comply with your delusions.
No they are literally not there lmao
Delusional retard
>IRyS, if I had to name one, why?
Is she now... What HR is she in MHW

>>73792899
I just mentioned regloss as the latest flop. After holoX cover was mostly debuting holostars. Like they literally debuted 16 fucking holostars members... 16! That's half of hololive JP numbers.
>ReGloss flop (when did that happen btw, they seem to be doing just fine)
"Fine"? Did you miss the whole "get 2,5 mil subs before august" thing or something? lmao
No they are not doing fucking fine.
Nobody still really understands why they exist instead of gen 7 btw. (management included)
>has nothing to do with the stars
Can you imagine how much more popular 16 new hololive members would be?
Instead they were debuting 16 flops that STILL will be leeching 3D studio resources that could've been used by hololive. It's fucking dumb. And their 3D output is 10 times less popular too. Hololive is basically subsidizing this shit. it's fucking getting crazy at this point.

>>73793373
JP debuted only 4 stars in that period. What makes you think they were the reason for no gen7? How would their segregation help? This is some impressive level of mindbreak.

>>73793655
What the fuck does it matter if they are JP or not? They will use the same fucking studio. And they are just as unpopular.
>What makes you think they were the reason for no gen7?
I never said that. "Reason" for no gen 7 is retarded cover's management.
Why they insist on debuting flops that won't make them any money? Your guess is as good as mine.
>How would their segregation help?
More 3D studio time, more 3D lives, 3D shows etc
How the fuck debuting fuckton of stars and 0 hololive would help? Like they literally do nothing. They barely contributed to growth of the company. But they still get almost the same amount of support girls get.
How does it make any fucking sense?

>>73793373
Nice revision, sister.
The regloss 2.5m subs was a goal given to them by management. They would've gotten a 3d even if they didn't reach it.
Looks like it wasn't a joke when they said pagpag sisters have extremely low comprehension

>>73794112
Where's the revision, dumbass?
I literally never mentioned 3D... What the fuck are you arguing with?
>Looks like it wasn't a joke when they said pagpag sisters have extremely low comprehension
the irony
How about you sit down and shut the fuck up instead?

>>73794163
>Says ReGloss flopped
>Brought up the 2.5m sub goal that was given to them as a goal as some kind of "proof" that they weren't doing fine
>Gets pointed out that it was just a goal given to them by management and not some kind of requirement
>Starts backpedaling
Classic sisters. What's next? Move the goalpost again?

>>73794303
I never said it was a requirement?
Like you are literally arguing with some dumb fuck retarded narrative from your fucking head.
You are free to think they didn't flop I don't give a fuck.
But you are retarded if you think gen 7 would be getting any kind of retarded "just a goals" or sitting at sub 500k 6 months+ after their debut.

>>73794568
>Moving the goalpost

So is someone else going to join the homo? Going to look like a lonely panel.

>>73795062
The chad muscle vtuber is gonna be with the homostars

>>73793987
>What the fuck does it matter if they are JP or not? They will use the same fucking studio
Only 2 of EN used that studio. Once. Yet you are implying that is the reason for Covers stock drop, and moving them to a separate production could have helped. See how this is retarded?

>>73792384
Wait you mean this thread wasn't already a sister masking as a unicuck and a sister masking as a beggar tardfighting each other in some sister-themed friendly fire?

>>73795163
Fuck, you've uncovered the truth. The entirety of /vt/ is "sisters" pretending to argue with each other. But you are probably one of them as well.

>>73795102
maybe he can cure their faggotry. Go on Jeff, save them.

>>73795238
So true sis. Oh shit my cover's blown.

>>73794695
no?
I literally stand by what I said - whole "2,5 mil subs till august challenge" is clear indicating that even COVER themselves think regloss flopped. But you don't even need that to know it? You can compare them to gen5 or holoX...
And there's no good reason for dev_is to even exist
They should've given us what everybody wants - gen 7. Maybe another EN.
No homos, no weird side branches, no retarded shit like hlztz etc

>>73794568
>if you think gen 7 would be getting any kind of retarded "just a goals" or sitting at sub 500k 6 months+ after their debut
They absolutely would, if they were hit by youtube culling as hard as ReGloss. Fuck, half of Advent are still around there even without the nerf. And if, on your brilliant suggestion, they had debuted 16 more holomem, it would have been even worse.

>>73795142
I'm not implying anything?
I'm saying it makes sense for yahoo boards to blame homos and be overall not pleased with performance because cover was doing dumb shit nonstop since holoX. Instead of giving people what they want - MORE HOLOLIVE.
>Yet you are implying that is the reason for Covers stock drop, and moving them to a separate production could have helped. See how this is retarded?
Of course it's retarded... But the problem is - you are saying it and trying to put words in my mouth.

>>73795601
>You can compare them to gen5 or holoX...
You can compare them to gen1 as well. Or with PewDiePie, why limit your retarded comparisons?

>>73795740
>I'm saying it makes sense for yahoo boards to blame homos
Ah, sorry, misunderstood. That is even more retarded.
> From my mindbroken faggot point of view it's completely understandable that other mindbroken faggots are seething
Thanks for the insight, I guess.

>>73795697
They wouldn't be hit by youtube culling because they would be under hololive instead of new entity. (just like advent wasn't hit by it)
This shit is largely on cover too (and youtube I guess) cause they can't communicate with youtube and have no idea why culling even happens and how to not get it.
>Fuck, half of Advent are still around there even without the nerf.
They have EN nerf lol Tho they are actually doing great for ENs
>And if, on your brilliant suggestion, they had debuted 16 more holomem, it would have been even worse.
not really? It's basically 3 gens in 3 years. 1EN 2JP would be fucking FINE. ENs actually need another gen for sure. If anything management fucked up with giving the scene to indies while debuting homo flops. But whatever...

>>73795765
How's comparing them to 2 closest previous gens retarded?
>>73795870
Yeah wanting more hololive is a "mindbroken faggot point"
thanks for a heads up sis

>>73795697
nta but the culling excuse grow thin every day. They have enough support from the biggest JP Holo's and Cover shilling them. Regloss only have themselves to blame if they can't use that momentum properly.

>>73795911
>They have EN nerf
The infamous EN nerf that Myth had, right? Council got the same culling shit, so pointless to look at.

>>73796015
Pretty sure the culling keeps on for some extended period after the debut, it's just less visible so just looks like a slower growth. Council had this as well with all of them randomly accelerating after a year or so. Since when is subs count the main measure of "success" anyway? Their views are comparable to other holos (average, not Marin and Pekora ofc).

>>73796048
Council cull wasn't as bad actually... at least from what I remember.

>>73795966
>How's comparing them to 2 closest previous gens retarded?
You said it yourself, it's been 2+ years.