/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>AR Live is a massive flop and every 3D model looks worse than PSP models. Lost to a Gura and Promise collab as well as an IRyS cape reveal. Not even an outfit, a CAPE.
>Elira's grand return stream was a flop at 3k CCV peak and lost 2k subs
>Elira pussied out and set a 13-week sub only chat
>Doki got the HYTE Collab after they dumped Kurosanji
>Luca birthday flopped in SC and CCV
>Doki reclaimed her Epic Games account stolen by Niji making them seethe in impotence.
>Mint told Niji to fuck off and is thriving as an indie, even making friendly references to Doki
>Aia hinted at graduating and reactivated her PL
>Scarle reactivated her PL after getting harassed by nijisisters over fucking Starbucks
>Ren has been doomposting on his PL.
>Kotoka is on an infinite "mental health" break and will most likely graduate
>Millie's outfit reveal being a flop
>MK tournament flopped, couldn't even beat Korone
>Rosemi's 3D debut being the worst in Niji history
>Elira finally bothered to stream after 3 months of hiding, her audience is destroyed so she'll flop anyway
>Vox fucked off to be a white monkey on bilibili like a bitch, still gets shit views
>Luca shitshow and blatant favoritism, clear breach of contract yet still gets away with it.
>Play Button drama by le retard Claude "you could just fucking ask" Clawmark
>Hex yab comments about killing goldfish and dumping dead people's ashes "for fun", Zaion got fired for way less.
>Uki "White people scare me" Violeta
>The whole "We love artists" psyop when in reality Niji refused to pay many artists
>Virtual Rhapsody SEA concert is a glorified L2D Karaoke
>The concert is selling so badly they are removing purchase limits
>AR Colors rushed out and butchered a lot of footage due to graduated livers, fucked over Rosemi and Petra.
>3D showcases being rushed out before Q4 after being stalled for 2 years, will definitely flop
>The latest niji gen still can't get to 100k subs and almost never reach more than 3 finanas of CCV
>Stocks are stagnated and will fall once the sales ban is lifted
>Niji desperately spamming Iluna and XSoleil merch to get some scraps before the Q4 report

>>73681037

It's almost like every non tourist already knew chuubas pay for their own MVs and only drama tourists desperate to take down "le heckin evil corpo" don't know basic rules

>>73681037
can't believe this is only 3 months worth of nijijabs

>>73681001
lol what did you think would happen with this OP? Serious question.
you should only have loyalty to the actor who portrays the character, not the company who hosts them. THe only difference between you and a disney adult is that the disney adult has a husband and kids

>>73681037
I just have a few questions
>Elira's grand return stream was a flop at 3k CCV peak
I didn't watch it but wasn't it just a zatau? In what way was it "grand"?

>Elira pussied out and set a 13-week sub only chat
Well no shit, otherwise it would be unusable. What did you want her to do, have it completely open?

>Mint told Niji to fuck off
How so? Other than the "cardboard wings" quip from her return stream.

>>73681001
if the company fully paid them they would get most if not all the revenue, then you would be complaining about that you moron

>>73681001
Not true. Some organs use OTHER people's money to make their content with.

>>73681037
AAAIIIIIIEEE NIJIJANNIES, OUR BAIT THREAD IS BEING DERAILED

>>73681398
3 months worth of nothing burgers, story twists, numberfagging and seethe. I know

>>73681836
>nothingburgers
>niji is in serious danger as a company
>all channels are in extreme decline and have fractions of their previous support and income
>full branch events end up looking like gutter trash compared to shit that their fired organ funded and organized herself.

>>73681037
JESAS

>>73682224
>Starts numberfagging about subs like they ever mattered
>Numberfag disingenuously talks about them having no support as the AR live makes millions, Elira making 4k off a Zatsu and Sonny mogging his own past birthday stream
>Dramafag seethe

Yup, nothing burgers. Now back to Hololive . Pic related

>>73681578
Nta. The word grand here is referring to the return. Good luck on your English learning.

>>73682390
quick question, do you think ANYCOLOR is a bigger business than Nintendo? They only have a stock price worth 1899 yen, which is less than ANYCOLOR, right?

>>73681001
Ah, this thread again

>>73681001
because no vtooba company fully pays and made a cover song unless that company is vsinger focused or has a major vsinger branch like brave
...why am i replying reasonably to a bait made by nijisis damage controlling their AR live which makes sankisen concert looks amazing

>>73682569
>Hey guys I will stream in a couple of days
>Does a zatsu talking about JRPGs or whatever
>This is "grand" somehow
Like, was her stream retweeted by the official branch account or something? Were JPs hyping it up? What made it grand?

>Good luck on your English learning
Delicious brown projection

>>73681001
remember the last time when they were fully in charge of the MVs?

>>73682224
Ok google what is snark

>>73682909
Are you a retard? That isn't Nintendo's actual stock value, that's a method for foreigners to buy into this stock

>>73683466
ah, thanks for answering my question.
Prepare for another cliff again as soon as the AR numbers ACTUALLY go out and the Q4 reports reach Japan.

>>73681001
>should the company pay for expensive extras that aren't necessary?
What a question. It'd be nice if it did, but "should" is much too strong.

>>73681836
okay enna

>>73681001
Why did Nijisanji close the ID, IN, and KR branches? Why did their upper management not let Pomu collab with actual idols? Why did Mista leave why did Yugo leave why did Nina leave why did Kyo leave? Why did Pomu leave? Why did they think the black screen was a good idea? Why did they delay the AR live until after 4 of the talents in it had graduated/been fired?

>>73683680
They absolutely should since they will own the resulting material anyways.

>>73681037
None of that excuses the shady shit in OP. Ebin pasta though drone

>>73687091
We don’t have to address bait. It’s only Nijisanji’s fault for making retarded decisions and nijifans fault for letting every bait thread get derailed because they don’t have the support they’re looking for.

>>73681338
Because the company should be obliged to compensate for the IP they own?
>>73681600
Fuck off. Corporations should be abolished and Virtual YouTubing should return to what it was before 2017. Completely free and independently owned. Four Kings come to mind.

>>73682390
I love it when Holopigs squeal when their black company is in dire straits as well and they deny it vehemently.
>>73682957
I'll make it every fucking day if I can. Holoshit deserves no fans at all.

>>73687244
so where are they right now?

>>73683020
Correct. Now you know why we should be steering away from corporate tyranny and returning to its roots. Four Heavenly Kings era when?
>>73687233
This thread is not about Nijisanji.

>>73682390
Cover didn't buyback their stocks to double the price and isn't doing anything to prevent people from selling.
If you actually have a brain and aren't just simply comparing the numbers you posted you would've realized that anycolor is fucked

>>73687244
>before 2017
>not corporate
There’s baiting, and then there’s throwing the fishing rod into the water.

>>73681001
anon, she makes 7 digits a year

>>73687581
>posting stock freefall for Cover
>"it's not falling Anycolor is!"
>cries in pain as the stock value keeps plummeting
Cope

>>73687244
>Completely free and independently owned.
>Four Kings come to mind.
LOL

>>73687486
This thread is about Nijisanji. I’m sorry your bait thread got derailed. Try not being a retard. I get that Hololive doesn’t manufacture yabs daily like whatever shithole you crawled out of. This isn’t your thread anymore. Shitter

>>73687602
>>73687700
Name me one corporation before 2017
Protip: You can't. AI owned her own IP, so did Mirai Akari, so did Kaguya Luna, and so did Siro.

Since ops being a faggot, Marine actually went on to say she LIKED the fact that the talents could fund their own shit, since there's no cap on it.

She also pointed out that if management was involved there defiantly would be a cap placed on it.

For those that don't brain good, management putting a cap on things is how you get that recent Niji AR live, since management instinctually wants to spend as little as possible.

>>73687353
Shut up and give all your money to Riku!

>>73687694
The nijisister is incapable of nuance and will nitpick retarded things in the hopes that someone will explain the obvious to them. Then they will ignore the explanation and repost the same stupid shit in a different way. Whether it’s in the same thread or in another one. It is one of the nijisisters greatest flaws. They’re incapable of learning, and so they repeat themselves to the point where they are obvious. They basically glow in every thread they are in. They do this because it works in their tinier bubbles like the doxx site or their curated discords/twitters, but they don’t have the numbers here to do the same thing. Thus making them look like retards. Which isn’t far off because as I said before, they are incapable of learning.

>>73687753
>thread that discusses the dark side of Hololive
>"quick, let's make it about Nijisanji!"
>ignoring the topic matter at hand
Cope

Didn't Okayu say that if they asked, management would help them with the logistics and finding artists/musicians as well?
aka actually manage the talents?
While Nijisanji claims they've never seen a music video before it was completed?

>>73687844
Again. I’m sorry that your bait thread got derailed. We can both cope about it together, okay :)

>>73687809
As expected from a whore. Another reminder what a disgusting human being she is.

>>73682390
Now compare the 2 graphs again while showing it by all time instead of just 1 day.
You would see anycolor's stock spike when they did a buyback and it slowly decline then it had a massive dip after the back to back drama, making the money used for buyback disappear to nothing.
Riku's title of youngest billionaire is also gone

>>73681037
>Latest NijiEn Gen can’t get to 100k subs
Oh boy don’t look at the new Hololive “Talents” either than. Not even the Dino boi leeching on Ollie can’t get 100k!

>>73687919
Nijisanji fully compensates some of the projects done by livers.
VShojo fully compensates all of the projects done by its talents
Hololive? Company takes everything, talents don't get paid, are given hush money not to graduate. Many such cases!

>>73686990
You assume Cover will own the IP. But Polka already told us she own the rights to her original song.

>>73687694
>Sisters not knowing what a buyback is and acting like they know anything about stocks

>>73687767
Literally not a single one of them "owned their IP".

>>73688065
Source: My ass

>>73688014
lol. Sisters think that people actually care about the Holostars. They are truly another species.

>>73688054
>fully compensates
[citation needed]

>>73688147
You weren't around then, Holofag. They did.

>>73681001
They're incredibly expensive for marginal return.

>>73687844
>dark side
If they have Cover pay for it, that means they have to deal with extra red tape and budget caps. This method allows them to get the end product they want instead of restricting them.

>>73687809
Marine is a corporate bootlicker so her opinion is irrelevant. This is why the wider vtuber community does not like her or respect her.

Why are Holopigs deflecting from the topic being discussed?
What happened?
All hiding after being confronted with factual evidence Cover is a black company?
KWAB

>>73688306
There’s no point in trying to explain this. It’s a bait thread. They’ll just purposefully misinterpret you and then restate the same retarded bait.

>>73688065
You mean until she sold the rights so they can distribute it on other platforms.

>>73687809
Marine is a whore who worked for another black company before her current black company. Why should we care about what she has to say when anyone with standards knows this is tyranny at its highest form?

>>73688284
I was around for all of their first uploads. They were all corporate from day 1, LARPer.

>>73681001
Jesus christ, was the live so bad you fuckers have to clog the board with these shit threads?
>>73681037
>>73681207
Oh dear..... oh, dear...

>>73681037
>gura and promise
SNOT has been out of commission so long advent babies dont even know what it is

>>73688284
t. posturing newfag

>>73688530
Cover is a black company. We will keep reminding you newfags the truth about this pathetic industry every day so you shut the fuck up about what (You) don't know.

>>73688530
Idk what the point is of doing these bait threads here are anymore. Outside of their generals people immediately know it’s bait. I guess they’re just unironically triggered.

>>73688306
Allowing them to use their own money towards something they don't own is unethical.

>>73688284
That's why Kaguya Luna and Mirai Akari are still using their models for their current activities, right?

>>73688014
That's the thing, sisters.
Holostars was always known to have shit numbers compared to the girls. Now the niji organs are only being compared to their fellow shit vtubers.
Try comparing advent and TTT. Every single member of advent has higher subscribers and avg ccv than the entire TTT group combined.

>>73688657
They own it until they choose to sell it to Cover.

>>73688586
>no u
I accept your concession
>>73688668
Neither are in VTubing anymore. Neither is Kasuga-san.

>>73688657
No shit Sherlock
>>73688732
DYRB

>>73688725
Yeah, you should be using the guys wave instead if you want to compare advent to niji. They even came out a month earlier.

>>73688054
>Nijisanji fully compensates
Sister... They don't even pay the artists. The organs even have to pay for their own debut.

>>73688738
>Mirai Akari
>No longer in vtubing

>>73688725
We can’t expect the sisters to pay attention to a new group with only one male member. It’s to be expected now. Especially with how most of the male fanbase has been pushed away. No one’s watching that new garbage outside of pagpag consumers and femcels in tofu-dreg housing.

>>73688054
>Nijisanji fully compensates
>Selen was 200k in the hole

>>73688898
And you think Hololive doesn't either? You're newer than I thought.

>>73688732
They are forced to sell it to Cover to use Cover IP in the material and to release on Cover channels. There is literally no situation in which any piece of released content isn't owned by Cover.
It's also a massive scam since unreleased material.is obviously worthless and gains value only after release.

>>73681037
>>Doki reclaimed her Epic Games account stolen by Niji making them seethe in impotence.
Honestly if you sign a contract like that it isn't stealing, you're just a fucking retard for even humoring them.

>>73688982
From her own spending habits?

>>73688483
So the alternative you're advocating for is that Cover should fund the production of a product that they would then need to buy off of the talent. Am I getting that right dumbass-chama?

>>73681001
How is this bait thread getting any traction? The thumbnail gives the answer right there. The talents don't want the corpo funding their projects.

>>73688738
>concessionposting
You’re really trying to hit every single retarded newfag talking point, aren’t you?

Vox Agrooma do be asking 9 year olds for feet selfies tho

>>73688738
Why are you like this? Who does it serve? Some fucking newbie might read this and actually believe this shit. Luna literally ghosted and never graduated because of issues with her company and shit talked them on her roommate's channel. She's not a Vtuber but she's all but considering the content she releases and the fact that her former company placed unfair restrictions on her RM account.
Akari was lucky to go indie after her corp exploded but that was NOTABLE because that was the exception NOT the rule.

>>73689048
Don't tell the newfags that

>>73689100
>claims nijisanji compensates talents
>a nijisanji talent claims they weren't compensated
>sister walks back claims and blames the talent

Cover does make stuff for them, but on a limited budget. They have to pay for it themselves when they want to go overbudget, which is obviously the case with a lavish fully 2D animated music video.
Okayu even said that Cover actually foots the bill up front and then they pay cover back by having their salary deducted. Seems like a decent system as long as they know what they're getting into.

>>73689149
>The talents don't want the corpo funding their projects
So they're risking their lives on this? All to flop? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
KWAB
>>73689160
I see you have no argument then
rmyt huh?
KWAB

>>73689237
See>>73689048

>>73681001
we’ve known they pay for MVs themselves for a very long-time now nigger

>ARLive looks like a shovelware PS2 game
>Gets dumped on in ccv by a shark and 3 others playing some shitty game and talking about breast milk
>Now sisters have to use every available idea they have to try to deflect
And they STILL don't have half the shitposting power of early Kiaraschizos. It's truly comical to see them do their best and still fall flat.

>>73689463
And you'll be reminded every day it's unethical and a scam until your newfag ass deems it unacceptable just like the rest of us do

>>73688834
Polka said that’s why her orisong wasn’t on other platforms for a while. She chose to hold off on selling the rights.
>>73689048
Wrong.
>>73689149
No, I’m not even arguing with you, retard. She funded it, she owned the rights when she released it, but you left out that she chose to sell.

>>73689286
You’re not worth an actual argument because you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about.

>>73689744
Because you have no argument either bud
Must be hard punching up to daddy huh?
KWAB

>>73689610
How unethical can it possibly be when the talents are the ones that are working to make sure things stay this way?

>>73689824
Because they're being scammed. Are you this fucking dense? Cover is literally a racket and everyone knows that's what it is except for drones and the gaslit livers

Let's see those livers make music MVs that get 40+ mil views without that freedom.

>>73689627
You have no proof that I'm wrong.

>>73689015
They are given budgets for their debut. There's tons of clips there of talents talking about how they blew all their debut budget on animation or other things.
Like how Biboo said she spent most of her budget on the magical girl transformation animation she commissioned.
How about this, sister. If you send me a clip that proves what you're saying, I'll send you a $500 gift card right now so you don't have to spend all day posting /here/
It needs to be as clear as when Mysta and Sayu told everyone that they only get 1-2% for merch and that they had to pay for their own debuts

>>73689543
It’s laughable. They think any of this will change even one opinion on their shitty black company. Bless their hearts. I can even see some of the logic. “If I drag the other company down into the shitpile that I roll around in then we are BOTH covered in shit and are equally bad.” Lol. Lmao

>>73689966
AIEEEEED DONT BRING UP THAT UP. THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT HOLOLIVE AIEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>73689887
>muh 40m views
That's not going to pay back for the millions of yen they wasted.

>>73689881
You mean like buying ticket concert but can't listen the song because copyright. Yeah that is a scummy scam, glad hololive never did it.

>>73689881
How are they getting scammed? Marine herself said that she wants to spend a lot of money on her MVs as a way to give back to her fans. They weren't being forced by management to do it like niji does

>>73689966
>Biboo said she spent most of her budget on the magical girl transformation animation she commissioned.
That budget must be tiny because that animation is unfinished.

>>73689799
This is the most pathetic “comeback” I’ve seen you make all thread, and I wasn’t sure that was possible. I see you’re not replying to the posts that actually address your “argument” anymore instead of the guy just calling you a retard.

>>73688342
>>73688499
>>73688657
>>73689048
holy seething was as live that bad?
dexerto.com/entertainment/hololive-usada-pekora-earning-living-vtubing-1956983/
Usada Pekora is one of the richest VTubers out there, based on public figures. The Hololive member has received $2.4 million in Super Chat revenue on YouTube, the highest of any active VTuber (Uruha Rushia and Kiryu Coco, both graduated, are ahead of her).

That $2.4 million figure would be split up somehow in her contract, but there’s other things like base pay an agency can afford a talent, as well as merchandise runs, marketing campaigns, and more.
educate yourself sisters
and why the fuck do you think we holobros care about nijisanji?
we really are living rent free lol

>>73690091
Imagine delaying your concert for over a year and STILL not getting the copyright for one of your songs. I mean it is nijisanji, so there’s a good chance they just didn’t care, didn’t know, or forgot.

>>73683332
Myth hated the cover produced country roads song because of the process, so they wanted to do everything themselves afterwards. They put in their audio clips and were code dark on it until it released.

Ok, so what happened to nijisanji that made sisters want to rewrite history again?

>>73690200
It's a scam because she doesn't own her work despite paying for it's production.

>>73681001
all corpos are black, more or less

>>73689048
Holy shit, what the fuck? That's tragic as hell

>>73690088
It already did you retard.
Stop assuming holo talents only get 2% like niji lmao

>A bunch of /pol/ types debating about how wage labor is theft
Fuck I'm hard

>>73690309
Their AR Live was garbage. That’s about it. There was even a song that got muted for copyright. In their year delayed concert. LOL. They had a year and they couldn’t even be bothered.

>>73689953
Polka owned her orisong when she released it on Youtube, then sold it when she wanted it on other platforms.

>>73689966
No one should be given a fucking budget for an IP they don't fucking own
>>73690091
Pretty much
>>73690200
Because the company owns it and not her?

>>73689966
Did they budget that Hololive gave them or just the word budget and you're assuming that it's a budget Hololive gave them?

>>73690227
>"I'm not mad you're mad"
>"Please defend my shitty black company practices"
And they say drones are the most powerful people here?
After all their silence when their black company is properly called out?
Must suck punching up to Daddy
rmyt huh?
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
KWAB

>>73689887
Anon...
I don't know how to tell you this, but one of the girls even had a 160m cover that still regularly gets views and comes up first over the official versions when you type in the song name.

>>73690414
It reads nearly exactly like some asinine /pol/ babble. I'm surprised that Jews haven't been mentioned yet.

>>73690200
>liver doesn't own her own work
>company does
It's that simple anon
>>73690414
No fucking shit. Read Wage Labour and Capital

>>73690382
40 million views on a video isn't 40 million yen worth of ad revenue, retard.
The video isn't the only thing they pay for either.

>>73690309
I think half of it might be underage dramatards/indieshills.

>>73690768
Could be ducky too lmao

>>73690473
No she didn't.

>>73690473
Proof?

>>73690585
>he’s a broken record now
Come on, you already used the “punching up to daddy” line already. At least vary your material.

>>73687767
>AI owned her own IP
What is, upd8, final answer.

>>73690912
>n-nuh uh you must be varied
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
THANKS FOR YOUR CONCESSION BUD
Must be hard punching up to Daddy huh bud?
KWAB + TYFYCBIRAI

>>73690987
I guess I hit a raw nerve?

>>73690414
Wage labor is about getting paid to work and not the other way around like it is in vtuber companies.

>>73690594
Dont' worry, it be long until someone brings up PhaseCorp
>>73690726
Anon, I literally have. You and I are on the same side here. I just enjoy watching fiercely capitalist myopic computer nerds declare their ardent hate for capitalist behavior in every instance of it interacting with their hobbies. Wildest shit

>>73691054
I for one really appreciate your efforts anon, the sisters are so down in the mud they need to play to let off some steam.

>>73691054
Keep telling yourself that bud
I really appreciate your concession though!
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
KWAB

>>73681001
They gain massive exposure and almost guaranteed fame just by being part of the blue dorito, so I guess there's that.
But yeah, seems counterproductive for them to not at least help out with MVs.

>>73691150
Thanks, there’s something cathartic about just disregarding their arguments and calling them retarded.

>>73688657
yea

>>73691237
Exactly, same with Niji. Glad we came to a consensus

>>73690202
animation is expensive

>>73691139
All corporations should be abolished. End of story.

>>73689610
did you even watch the clip?

>>73691170
I can practically hear the sobbing, how can you still type with tears in your eyes like that?

>>73691237
They do

>>73691253
It’s the best way to go about it I think. They aren’t here for any conversation. It’s just bait and circular arguments. There’s nothing to be gained. Just call them retarded and let them fester.

>>73691237
The company takes everything from the Holos

>>73688632
if you hate the industry just fucking leave lol. imagine wasting your fleeting youth to type hate on the internet.

>>73681037
Also, Gura returned out of nowhere and "referenced" Elira's sub 3k CCV return stream in the SNOT Collab that overlapped Niji AR live free portion. So either Mumei or Gura decided to Ice Beam NIJISANJI now that it is barely alive

>>73681037
KEK

>>73691534
I watch Indies

>>73681207
>Poisoned status effect vfx

>>73691237
Cover does offer interest free loans if they want to spend a bit beyond their means, with payment coming out of the girl’s paycheck (how much is taken out is chosen by the girl). We went over this during the last round of bait threads on this topic when Okayu decided to sacrifice her entire paycheck for repayment instead of something like just a portion.

>>73691545
>Gura returned out of nowhere and "referenced" Elira's
Proof?

>>73691752
Do these girls have any fucking standards and knowledge on risk management? What's the point when these projects are all flops by /#/ standards?

The seething on the catalog today is glorious

>>73691752
They shouldn't be offering any kind of loans. They should be paying for all of it themselves.

>>73691850
anon...

>>73691912
>Immediately borders on bankruptcy again
When will she ever learn?

>>73691850
Passion for your work is a foreign concept it seems. Plus they make fat stacks from merch, which is where most of their income comes from.

>>73691545
Please proof. Gura actually dunking on the AR would be absolutely kino and make the board a living hell I want to see.

>>73692016
She'll be fine. She has managers now. Real ones that actually want to help her, as opposed to the fuckers at Niji who left her to rot until they could throw a few knives in her way when they felt like it.

>>73691850
They release covers when neither they nor Cover Corp make money off of those. They splurge like this because these are passion projects.

>>73691912
Good for her. We're talking about Hololive underperforming though.
>>73692086
And even then it's underperformance. The numbers don't lie. Especially when they're owing life's savings to Cover just to fail.

>>73692103
she overlapped and mogged the fuck out of the concert.
The miko thing happened later but still funny

>>73692204
Anon, the point is the same. They want to put out projects so their fans can enjoy them.

>>73691545
>Gura returned out of nowhere and "referenced" Elira's sub 3k CCV return stream
I keep seeing this posted and every time anons ask for a timestamp they're ignored, so at this point I'm just going to assume one person made it up and everyone else believed it to be true and keep repeating it.

>>73691899
If Cover was paying for it, they’d have full control over the production process. That’s why the talents are paying for it themselves in the first place.

>>73692249
Honestly that's a bad look for Miko if Gura mogs her like that.
>>73692339
It just seems like a reckless decision only to lose gold on the day

>>73692458
That is completely on them to deal with, not you. Such is life, mate.

>>73690476
Do you think they don't know that the company owns them? Not every vtuber is being abused like the organa

>>73690256
That's honestly not that much money, that's like c celebrity level. I know people in tech who im pretty sure have saved up more than that. Its actually kind of surprising that one of the biggest names in vtubing has only made that much, shows how small vtubing still is compared to other industries. I was expecting someone like her to he in like the 25-50m range.

>>73692454
Gura doesn’t even know Diamond City Lights, there’s really no reason to think she’d watch Elira.
>>73692458
And this is where you realize that /#/ care more about numbers than the girls. Also, songs would be premieres and not count toward the tally in the first place.

Haha o my gosh i am laffing, this is straight up making shit up and pushing it as the truth, its like saying that i started vtubing back in 98 when i had a camera and put a mascot costume on and trying to rewrite history lmbo. Anyway i love how nijisistwhores have now gone from 'niji is better than holo' to 'well holo is just as bad as niji' to 'actually all corpos bad'. I am excited to see whats next on the cope list

>>73692458
Just because you feel that it's underperforming doesn't mean that the chuuba and their fans do. It may seem reckless to you because you might have no sense of passion beyond arguing idiotic points on a Tibetan Shadow puppet forum.

>>73692772
Good thing superchats are not their only source of revenue. Hell it's not even the biggest.

>>73690570
Yes, it's from hololive. Biboo and Bae said so.
How about giving us proof that your organs aren't getting 2% now. You clowns keep going about your whataoutism, just assuming every vtuber agency is a black company just because niji is one

>>73692458
How is it a bad look for Miko if she gets mogged by the vtuber wh mogs all vtubers?

>>73681001
And Niji does pay for them? Do you not remember Doki saying she basically made no money in 2023 because she paid for her projects (some of which Niji didn't let her release like that one MV) out of her own pocket?

>>73692942
Yeah but lets say she has what? 15m? Biggest vtuber? That's still small compared to stuff like music and film.

This thread is such a treat. It's so fucking funny seeing the sisters moving the goalpost throughout the thead

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Member Nijisisters? I member....

>>73686596
IN was unprofitable, then they changed it to EN to fool everyone didn't worked and changed it back then dissolved after to make way for EN, KR branch was a mess a lot of issues snd big yabs Mgmt axed it out and ID got affected with it and was also axed

>>73692972
How about you show those clips where they said "we got a budget from Hololive"? The proof 2% is fake is that the contract says the cut for merch isn't two percent and gets agreed on by the members

>>73681001
>vtuber wants to do expensive shit that isn't part of the corpo's plan
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE VTUBER HAS TO PAY THEIR OWN PROJECTS WITH THEIR OWN MONEY?!?!?
I fucking hate you retards that have zero idea how the real world works. Get a job for once in your lifem

>>73690256
Nah that’s just marineschizo he’s really gotten his panties in a knot for seeing marine on catalogue and has been going on all her friends generals going schizo. So same as usual

>>73681001
Why does the moderation staff of this board allow for the proliferation of obvious falseflag threads?
Why has Southeast Asia yet to be rangebanned?

>>73681037
Oof

>>73681001
That's fucked up, vtuber companies were a mistake

>>73698611
I don't think you understand what the term "falseflag" means

>>73681001
if cover was in charge how far back would we be in the song pipeline? would marine's treasure box song be released yet?

>>73681836
why are women so afraid of numbers? is it because they don't care about your feelings? is it because they matter so much more than how you feel about stuff?

>>73689881
>They don't know what's good for them
Classic woke propaganda tactic. Infantilize and demean the people you're "advocating" for and push for everything that they explicitly don't want. I can't wait for Nijisanji to die so you can go back to worshiping your plastic kpop slop.

>>73681037
cringe

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>>73687244
You are a dramatourist newfag trying desperately to seem like you aren’t and failing miserably.

>>73681037
eternally seething, you must follow niji 24/7. for someone that hates it, do t you find it weird to devote your entire life to thinking about nijisanji? just face it, they won. they weathered the storm, EN isn't folding. You lost.

>>73693346
nigger are you really comparing decades-old industries with worldwide media conglomerates investment behind them to a single company in a newborn entertainment niche that is still less than 10 years old?
Vtubing has yet to reach maturity, and the fact cover is already at the helm while still expanding operations should tell you all you need to know about the coming years but maybe you are too retarded to understand it.

>>73715948
He is trying his hardest to disingenuously downplay the numbers. Dont get too worked up over it.

>>73681207
So did they do the lighting in the Build Engine? Talking about the OG Duke Nukem 3D version