/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Happy birthday, Phinia! Say something nice to her
https://twitter.com/HisetaPhinia/status/1778957267523748301

News time! Lots of new debuts, and lemme cover some of them.
First things first, the latest generation from Re:Memories is finally revealed! They're set to debut at April 19th
https://twitter.com/Rememories_id/status/1778785804883763499

>>73556866
Also, it's kinda interesting that they put a 3 females 1 male debut. Is Re:Memo trying to test the water with the renewed interest in local malechuuba?

>>73556866
Next, we have Prism:NOVA, who will be debuting their new talents at April 20th and 21st. You can check them out here
https://twitter.com/PrismNOVA/status/1778951241009377356

>>73557173
I've scrolled their corpo SNS a bit and find a link to their website. Nothing new, but there's a fluff piece here and there to pad the empty site.
What's interesting is some of their staffs has a connection with ASPIRA Project? Will this be a reincarnation for their talents as well?

>>73556866
Another debut, this time from a small-time corpo RancomTeam. These two will debut at April 14th, 7 and 8 p.m. WIB respectively
https://twitter.com/Airi_Airintika2/status/1778059035784450554
https://twitter.com/Sevina_Reina2/status/1778266219755495889

>>73556866
Lastly, a (re)debut from Virtunix, check Mira Fridayanti at Apri 14th 8 p.m. WIB
https://twitter.com/mira_frdynt/status/1777256334112768356

>>73442852
Alright, now that more options popped up and idk who to pick, let's just vote who's our rep for pelatnas ogeycalibur, each anon can add one option on the poll as well so don't be scared to add your oshi there
http://poal.me/h6btby
http://poal.me/h6btby
http://poal.me/h6btby

Maru Week End
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxOUfoo1q8M
Zoey weekend unmanned ASMR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQArfJ5Ni-Y

Souta Kirby
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnUfeRxfRUM
Guewiya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qubPbXAtOS8&pp=0AUB
Rui Vertical Talk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8erh4yCH_ew&pp=0AUB
Ghina Lego Batman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDQKDc-CsmE&pp=0AUB

how does she know about term rrats?

>>73560519
Go to therapy sis, they can keep your secret better. But of course, that's not what you want, is it? You want to rant while having spotlights aimed towards you saying work is just so hard, and you couldn't do it anymore

https://voi.id/musik/372898/jelang-album-baru-lagu-lagu-taylor-swift-kembali-ke-tiktok
Any tiktokers can check if holo-n songs from Kobo/Moona are back there?

>>73560977
why would she use alt account if she wants spotlights?

>>73561116
Whore behavior

>>73561424
make sense

Renita awoo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXfinPRcdmA

>>73560519
who?

>>73562925
My wife

>>73562925
Somebody irrelevant

watch epel come to last year holocafe https://youtu.be/uVgMP3YGdC4?si=SJn0deBCSvl26fs7

>>73563090
>>73563555
i wont ask more, gatekeeper

Does anyone knows whys there so much hate comment on the latest kobo x regis collab stream? Im out of the loop, please spoonfeed me ill suck your cock

Naomi Nobar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjWYMePP9I4

>>73564688
Ask in /ehe/.

>>73564688
fuck off nigger. it's already bad enough that kikebook has been nothing but schizophrenic shitflingings between her retarded dickriders and her retarded antis

>>73564688
Apakah kamu pernah membayangkan bila dirimu sendiri dengan frekuensi yang rutin terlihat sering bermain dengan wanita? Menurutmu apa yang akan orang lain pikirkan; 1. Kamu adalah seorang banci 2. Kamu adalah seorang playboy, walaupun mungkin tujuan atau apa yang kamu pikirkan berbeda, orang-orang mungkin akan tetap berpikir seperti itu.

Itu jugalah yang terjadi dengan Kobo. Aku pikir bahkan stigma pemisah antara simper & normies sudah tidak berlaku lagi di sini.

Karena ini tentang bagaimana publik merespon secara spontan berdasarkan berbagai rentetan aktivitas Kobo.

Aku tidak akan membenarkan perilaku hate komentar di internet, namun aku juga tidak akan membela Kobo dalam kasus ini.

That's why, it's so hard to become a public figure.

>>73565200
What the fuck is this? Google Translate? ChatGPT?

>>73565056
>>73565200
Thanks for the answer

Uchi Freetalk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yij2OX-nPo

Gema Storyteller
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jpzefBj6Dg

Alicia Running
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN1j9-fHC-E&pp=0AUB
Yumi Chilling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRcBOuMv3iQ
XynMeii vs idihhomo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwl-ocgWppM
Laras Freetalk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvNf3uCSjaw

>>73557307
I miss her.

Valita ML
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnjSU4JZtjI
Arjun Curhat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMb5oQ7Qh4k&pp=0AUB

>>73565200
Fact is, women perceive friendships between the opposite sex more neutrally compared to how men perceive them. Most women will say that their "sibling" relationship is completely normal and platonic while most men can never think of those two as being just "friend". Those difference in perception is what caused all these shitflinging between shitposters, antis, and fans.

This made me go "wait-- huh??"
https://twitter.com/LarasatiObelia/status/1778972215637357053
https://twitter.com/LarasatiObelia/status/1778972215637357053

i guess they're at peace with this

Moona going with holo-n is something I least expected but also simultaneously not surprised of. I mean, they were talking about the musical endeavor they're doing is tough and how labels are usually helpful for this kinda situation, just a month ago or so in mengen. I was caught off guard when Dejavu was revealed as a holo-n release.

ID4 is taking too long
i hope M-chan could take a different approach with new girls. please let it be our own advent
ID4 might be our last gen......

>>73569150
What's special about Advent? Genuinely asking.

>>73569532
Just FuwaMoco (?)

>>73569150
Kimihime

>>73569150
Advent? ID3 is already a golden gen, surpassed all of their senpais like JP3, while Advent is just another mediocre gen.
Seems like the management wants ID4 to surpass ID3, which is a very high bar already. They won't debut them if the new girls can't be as talented as Kobo.

>>73569150
What's with these obsession towards ID4? Right now there's no need to dilute the already stable 9 with acceleration or some shit, we should demand cover to invest more into the existing members like what they did this Area15 anniv instead of adding new members

Rather than ID4 I thing HoloID need more high competence staff/specialist on relevant field

>>73569532
>Advent
backtracking from the aggressive homocollabing, management realized their errors and then playing into HoloEN's strength
creating a proper HoloEN box in the process which may (or may not) threaten some HoloID members

>>73570892
someone need to replace the fujo m-chan (gita?)

Kek, your oshi is collabing with Windah after that retarded crypto shill
https://twitter.com/kobokanaeru/status/1779123109876076823

New Elula Debut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmBDFqh6Z1U
Katya Vertical Stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RdjXxTri9Q&pp=0AUB
Richard Karaoke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLtFE_ROHdQ&pp=0AUB
Rean Horror
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP4g3Sx-nps&pp=0AUB
Gui Draws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD6KxnTT0Xk
Uchi ML
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irLragqtB2w
Mari Summer of '58
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QGTSTlcx_8

>>73570707
This.

>>73565363
anon reminder that
first language:bahasa daerah
second language : bahasa indonesia
>we all ISL in /here/

>>73570929
I mean, other ENs have always had the chance to not interact with them at all. I think Fauna was among those who flat out rejected to mention the homos at all.

>>73569150
I want the first three gens to actually give something valuable back first to Yagoo's years of trust on the most underperforming holo branch before talking anything about ID4. We still couldn't even get our local fans to buy merchs and concert tickets

>>73572756
Yagoo's still keeping homos up and running, we're doing fine. Though I agree it's kinda rich asking for ID4, in treerrat's words "emang bisa nafkahin?"

>>73572969
homos need playmates so they won't bother HoloEN
treerrat i don't think you can attract a new audience like new debut would do
imagine she's saying that to ID3 not knowing we would have gems like Kobo and Kaela

>>73573200
With ID3 there was still something missing. The most obvious one being a firm Indonesian speaker for them to finally cement their position in the local scene. Kobo was a lightning in a bottle and could be hard to replicate. The talent coverage is still pretty balanced as of now too, a new gen is not as necessary.

investor to ID mchan :
"no new debut if your numbers ain't good"

>no gachis since we keep shitting on them
>no passionate fans who are willing to pay for shits and making revenue for cover

what's the solution bros?
at least everything should be affordable enough for the casual fans

what's the ratio for casual fans vs passionate fans for each HoloID members? any data for something like this?

Pira Pokecards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vgFSKlFuEQ&pp=0AUB
Key Mortuary Assistant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZUnwUbFX-w
Ethel Draws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ_ed4R9ljU

>>73572969
I hate it when she worded it that way. It sounded so condescending, and I feel that she's just projecting her insecurities of losing her gachis in the inevitable arrival of ID4

>>73574086
i believe Risu is just calming down the fans
she couldn't tell the fans that ID4 won't be coming because of the branch' "poor" performance
IPO is a mistake

>>73572969
>>73574086
TLDR bro, I miss the info, is she talking about the agency? Fans? Or any contexts/situation?

>>73574240
chat asking risu if there is any info for ID4
and then she answered "Emang kalau ada gen 4 kalian mau nafkahi? udah siap belum?" as if newer fan base can't support the upcoming new member

honestly i get it when viewer constantly asking something you don't know, but you don't have to answered like that

>>73564688
where? i've been scrolling through the comments section and found none

>>73574463 (me)
but imo, holoID need something fresh because everyone kinda become boring to me, maybe except kaela because she still a good clip generator (eventho its all EN collab)

>>73574240
here :
i'm trying to deflect and stir the topic onto another direction
so play along with me please ;D

>>73574492
its been deleted by now. but go to previous bread or any kikebook page if you want

>>73574240
The fans keep pestering members about ID4 (Moona, Risu, and possibly Ollie and the others too) and that was her answer.
>>73574086
Be that as it may, she ain't wrong regardless. This is a branch especially made as a country-specific branch. Until they can put the money where their mouth is, it feels simply unwise to ask the talent about it.

Bitcoin / Stock trader Vtuber WHEN?!?!

>>73574722
should have spam the holoID official tweet and YT channel instead of asking the talents like that, it's kinda rude
but the demand is still there and people haven't forgotten ID4, that's what important

there's nothing wrong about making your demands known to the company, but the current method must be annoying for risu, ollie and other girls

>>73574463
>as if newer fan base can't support the upcoming new member
Do they tho?

>>73573868
The solution is this >>73570892

Indonesians don't deserve ID4.

>>73575522
what if hiring new managers is not an available option? they are certainly not doing it for StarsJP, what makes you think they would do it for HoloID?

>>73575793
oopsie
>no new managers
i mean staffs

Mine for ID4

>>73574626
what kind of the content do you wish? Big event collabs? Premiere form videos? Short video? Campaign? Competition

???
Wathever, the answer is this >>73570892

Seina Content Warning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=png-CXUzVPo
HBD Phinia!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxIXSmevWRk

https://youtu.be/dEZKYpxcS30
Zoey Zatsudan

>>73575793
Some man power who will not give sugestion to post 1hour loop music video as the marketing strategy

>>73575522
>>73575951
How do you define a specialist in talent agency? A jack of all trades? A miracle worker that able to polish even the shittiest turd into a workable material? Can you find that kind of person anyway?

>>73576190
even with another underperforming branch like Holostars JP, they are not hiring new staffs but the current staffs are brainstorming the shit out of their brains. the members also not giving up like Aruran he keeps improving
yeah hiring new staff is not realistic
just fire the current staffs lol

Cae Doronko Wanko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmrdqfA3EAo

The difference between JP & ID, JP talents is like they're have at least basic guide how to boost their own channel or even some strategy, idea or creative stuff rather than ID talents, that doing everything without any clue.

>>73576853
I blame M-chan or whatever manager they have

Firstly, ID need to learn to at least pretend that they enjoy streaming or having an audience

>>73576853
EN staffs are browsing 4ch
ID staffs are just tone deaf Xhitters
source : it was revealed to me in a dream
>>73576950
i blame the fujo Holostarfan M-chan
although it's ironic for me to say that, but whatever i know vtubing from HoloID so i still feel sad

>>73576853
tbf to them, ID algo are unpredictable af and compared to local chuubas, holo can't utilize certain tested and proven ID contents like donothon and mediashare

Naya Content Warning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdPaqiJ_LLk
Aliza Content Warning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2ycEsKxPOY
Lillis chibi's head commision
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp3ytAII1N4
Kana Kanathon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP6GRh5vLjU
Verin donothon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOJDn-KMz9E
Via PvZ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIfmEGHlzNA
Daisy Parasocial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOQ4jlYVv5E

Ronda wan! Jagain kompleks soalnya ada yang belom balik mudik!

>>73574626
This. I'm still enjoying Reine's AA stream and Risu's MMM, but other than that, I feel ID is kinda stale right now.
Even with the latest new outfit, it's still the same as other outfit reveal streams that we get each year. Nothing special about it.
>>73575951
Create an arc like how JP does. However, ID can't do that because most of the members don't have any motivation to do so.

>>73574897
Yeah, asking the talent is kinda rude.
It's kinda like you keep asking your wife when can you marry again.

>>73575899
>>73575793
Cover already assign some new manager for ID recently though.

>>73579290
>Create an arc like how JP does
What do you mean by this? Is this something like nijisore or that GTA RP trend?

>>73580441
Nta, but I think it's more like the personal growth arc like Botan and Korone with FGC and Towa with competitive Apex

Kaela's number without EN collan AND outside of EN timezone is grim....

Honestly should've just move to EN timezone permanently, but i guess she's rich already + too much of a gamer to care that much.

>>73572969
>"emang bisa nafkahin?"
Yes they absolutely can, Kaela and Kobo (before male collabs) are already proof enough (on top of other ID streamers with a bunch of sultan donators). Just because your fans (other than Six) are all poorfags doesn't mean others are, fucking retarded treerats.

>>73579290
ID can't do that because the majority of talent doesn't play the same game together
> Minecraft
no kobo, even tho she has funny moment like jerry and that polar bear
and also no anya iirc
> FPS game
they've tried playing fps together like OW, occasional valo or apex, but the majority of talent doesn't like shooting games
>GTA, RUST, any RP games
the only one actively play these kind of games is either kaela or anya

>>73575215
Yes, there are a bunch of former Kobokerz ready to jump ship, just look at Koko Jon who immediately back constantly donating to one of the JKT48V. If only ID4 releases sooner, he can jump back to them instead. Even rhythm doesn't send Akasupa anymore.

>>73577003
This is the best post so far and somehow went under the radar.

>>73581501
Speaking of jkt48v, when will they add more members? imo the likes of them and DigiKagi are the ones who needs to accelerate, not holo

I haven't following Maha5 for a while, what happened to Andi Adinata harem arc btw?

Is this a hate SC or not? The first half sounds supportive, but the last part seems like it's all just sarcasm. If it's a hate SC, then respect to him, we finally have a real Gigachad ID unicorn kek.

>>73581613
mana bener lagi, di stream ga semangat, di alt-acc nge-rant mulu
semoga para talent diberi pencerahan dan kesegaran fikiran

meanwhile iam gonna stay away from id and cater to EN yappers

>>73581883
>talking about SC and CCV
sasuga numberniggers, must be a /#/ regulars kek

>>73581283
any numberfags mocking Kobo now seems to forget Kobo at her glory days can receive donations of Rp15K-50K every 10 seconds, that was crazy and unprecedented. She surpassed most JP and EN back then. Dunno what happens now that most of her fans have left her, I'm not following fb and tiktok drama.

And it will happen again in the future, 99%. Maybe in the new Holo ID gen(s) or any other agencies.

>>73581808
Cloe MIA, Mira ded, meanwhile miti, kawi, and frederet moveon to another guy

>>73570892
>>73575951
>>73582319
Here's my million dollar idea, have a tech guy that can collab with Sociabuzz for mediashare, so IDs can have curated-by-mod mediashare donations.

Oh and if in case it's actually already possible, then hire a mod to curate mediashare so ID can open it.

>>73568256
>Never collab anymore
>Does this shit to intentionally to sabotage Kobo
Does Ollie hates Kobo? Is she jealous because she's not the Queen anymore? Or maybe that Kobo can still be successful even with l
pandering to ID?

>>73582756
>every male collabs (except risu iofi and ollie) are fujo-mchan's idea
It's time to fire Gita, she needs to get the Omega treatment so we can have our ID version of Jap Man

The next chapter on Genesix yab
https://twitter.com/GenesixVtuber/status/1779176818857456007

>>73582941
When the chief manager of the girls-only branch is drooling over Oga and is his big fan, that should send a signal of trouble right from the start.

>>73579185
sibuk "rondain" deisex

>>73582941
Honestly I want to see exID staff be given the managerial position of HoloID. They were pretty creative and very good at defusing any drama. Sure there were some rumors about nepotism but can nepotism still be practiced in the current state of Hololive? Yagoo is directly involved in choosing the talents
I'm curious if their team can do better than Gita's team if they're given the full resources of Hololive instead of lame resources that Nijisanji had.

>>73584513
The staff that can't help exID when they're asking how to grow?
Roru, Rumao even

>>73582319
>>73583722
HoloID & Kobo pengen coba nyebur & mengarungi red ocean niche normies, tapi ga bisa ngap. Gw dulu dukung banget karena faktor talent growth & expect tinggi. Tapi sekarang apaan ngap, pendekatan normies cuma dianggap sekedar ke arah bisa bebas collab & pembawaan rada lepas (unseiso), tapi strategi minus ngap, ide & kreativitas minus, fresh engga, bahkan gw rasa konten-konten video dari Maha5 & Aka Virtual, bahkan beberapa Vtuber agensi lokal lainnya masih jauh lebih seru.


Huffttt...

Cilla Freetalk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9iZgIbmSDg

>>73584970
*I'm talk about regular/daily content
It would be different if talking about some event, of course HoloID is far away better.

Is it possible for Holoid to have cgdct gen tho? Lot of indo fans that i've seen in the yt comments section and fb are really into homostars or males, they probably gonna get lot of hates like fuwamoco

>>73584513
>ExID staff
Bruh, even now he's struggling to make DigiKagi grow, and given what happened to them in 2023, I wouldn't say that he's ableto replicate what he did towards Niji

>>73582319
>She surpassed most JP and EN back then
Is this about her donation income? Cause you're fucking delusional if you truly think so

>>73581883
What even is the logic behind these kind of hate comments? "Oh I'm just going to throw a bunch of money at this person, they're going to be sooo mad"

>>73582347
>miti, kawi, and frederet moveon to another guy
Bang Al?

>>73582960
So she's the trouble maker behind this yab? Here's hoping that'd be enough help them regain some trusts from talent and fans alike

>>73587284
yes AL......
Alhaitham

jk, but miti and kayjblos did harem gimmick with bang al

>>73586074
flexing your money, making sure they read them, and showing what she will lose by kept doing that.

also fans love the "these critics are just from troll who never even watch her!", so that's the best way to show that it's not a troll but real critics from her fan.

>>73581283
>Just because your fans (other than Six) are all poorfags doesn't mean others are, fucking retarded treerats.
I'm offended by your implication that I'm the treerrat just because I think she had a point.
>Yes they absolutely can, Kaela and Kobo (before male collabs) are already proof enough (on top of other ID streamers with a bunch of sultan donators).
Then sure, by all means. My exposure to local streaming scene is pretty minimal so maybe I'm wrong on this though it seems a bit odd bring Kaela into this as she's also another EN-lite. I mean, there are Indonesians who watch her still despite that but she isn't quite the same as Kobo who can seamlessly mingle with local streamers.

>>73586074
>>73588057
>flexing money
Yep, Jakarta's UMR is 5.067.381. Not everyone can throw money like that.
>making sure they read them
The 5 juta akasupa lasts for 5 fucking hours. He made sure that everyone watching it will read his message.
>>73587610
I watched Kejeblos for a bit but dropped her because the chat kept sending Bang Al's clip mediashare. Kejeblos's stream is interesting but I couldn't stand them spamming Bang Al's clips.

>>73588057
Remember the JP troll that keeps throwing 50k yen passive aggressive akasupa at holomem to trigger a drama? Would you also consider him a fan? Them throwing a lot of money at people doesn't mean that they're a fan, it just means that they're a troll with a lot of dispensable income

>>73586074
>>73588057
>>73588466
>>73589067
They will never be him

>>73589067
NTA but it's funnier this way. Remember that condom money supa? What a good time.

>>73589187
Guy sending Kobo akasupa is a member (is he a regular? How often does he chat?) and spent more money, 5 juta vs 4 juta ($250).
But condom message is more based. That legendary screenshot appears in every supa threads in /vt/.

>>73589318
At least the condom money akasupa mindbroke Mori and the JP troll actually made Migo cry on stream, what the hell does this one do

>>73589640
If someone is willing to commit to the bit to the point of sending a $300 akasupa, why would joining a membership be out of the question? It's just $3 a month

>>73588402
Funny that even though Kaela is an "EN-lite", she still gets more ID supas than Kobo.
Also if you check their ID3's anniversary merch in Tokopedia, she also sold the most.

>>73590012
What I want to know is if he (5 juta guy) is a regular or not. Because making new accounts is simple and takes only a few minutes. I have a hunch that most hate supa are not using their main accounts.
>>73590210
>764.900
Not even 1 akasupa. Where was Koko Jon? Was the stream after he left Kobo?

>>73590210
Are we finally moving on from the "boohoo look where speaking English as an Indonesian got you, can't even catch up to Kobo" thingy when ID3 first debuted? Glad to see it.

>>73590558
He already oshihen'd since her first birthday, why would he still be there

>>73590786
I asked because I never watch Kobo and didn't know when he left.

>>73590558
You can see his membership badge next to his name, he has been a member for least 2 months

>>73582941
>Jap Man
unicorns are happy with advent
sisters are happy because so much bois debuting
unironically best hire (pls don't jinx it)

>>73590210
Her stream today got more SC than her anniversary stream, good job proving that drama generates more money than hard work and effort I guess

>>73590928
I have a 1 year badge and I don't even watch Kobo

>>73591174
Who do you watch?

>>73584970
HoloID is a small branch catering to a country which has weaker currency than yen
aiming for casual fans / normies is suicidal since casual fans can't be bothered to buy those expensive merchs

the truth is HoloID is a branch that need gachikoi's money more so than HoloEN to survive.

leeching e-celebs is more effective if you are a male vtuber like Kuzuha, Aruran and Rikka (to name a few)

>>73591082
No shit, Sherlock. She was carried by this guy >>73581883

>>73591279
I'm just your average /vt/ dramafag

>>73591561
Forgot pic

>>73590558
It's his first superchat on her channel. Take that how you will.

>>73590786
>>73590914
He stopped watching Kobo with a chad move tho, giving like 10 akasupa after months of absent and not even said anything bad, just a nice parting gift.

>>73591651
It's still more than her anniversary stream even if you remove that guy's SC

>>73590649
No, because even with all the debuff and male collabs Kobo did, Kaela still can only beat her occasionally. Kind dissapointing desu as an EN enjoyer, we need someone that can actually be interesting in EN to challenge holoEN and not losing to fucking Kobo the queen of cuck.

>>73590210
Yeah of course that's what happened when you keep lusting with males all the time, you lost all your gachis. Remember when Kobo used to sold 5x more merch in Tokopedia? yeah she even lost to Zeta now kek.

>>73591971
Playboard data (now):
Kaela total superchat: IDR 5,339,228,028
Kobo total superchat: IDR 1,476,848,580
>>73591778
>first superchat
Hmmm....

>>73591778
Yeah, seems like a passive aggressive SC

>>73592139
Idk what's your point at by bringing that playboard number? Are you quoting the wrong person?

>>73592099
>Remember when Kobo used to sold 5x more merch in Tokopedia
This never happened

>>73591778
BTW, when did Youtube start showing "it's his 1st/2nd/34d...etc superchat" thing? I never got this (first superchat in late 2022).

>>73592269
Yes this did happen newfag. I can't find the catalog for their 1st anniv where Kobo sold like 200+ of her birthday merch, but i'm pretty sure i talk about it on /warkop/ back in the day so you newfag can just stop being lazy and do your reps.

>>73591971
I mean, I personally don't mind Kobo dominating donations. I just want the subset that are so adamant in proving the EN-lites were missing out for speaking in English as an ID member, to leave them alone. Though now that I think about it out loud, I guess there's no reason for me to worry about this as of late.
>>73592139
Kobo's strength lies within SociaBuzz donos. Though there's no reliable way to track that.

>>73592360
Sometime last year iirc

>>73592473
Because she had more stock? Are you retarded?

>>73592482
What? Nobody saying that Kaela is missing out the ID market donations by speaking English. It's the exact opposite where everyone are mocking Kobo for her poor SC compares to Kaela with her "EN fans money".

In fact that's the only argument the EN lite fans has, how poor the ID audience was, "gak bisa nafkahin", etc. The only thing Kaela's proved was that of course you won't get an ID donations when all members before her except maybe Reine are all anti gachikois. Kobo also proved this by looking at all the Indos gachis she had lost over the time (way too many).

The only things people keep doomposting about EN lite are how they'll be forgotten once a new EN gen debuted, like Ollie, which Kaela has proven them wrong. Altho her CCV at non EN times without EN collab tonight does look worrying (1k+), it doesn't matter because she arguably has become a True EN with the numbers she got in EN time / EN collabs.

>>73592735
and? she got more stocks because she has bigger fans, surely you don't stupidly think Kaela would sell much more right? when she's literally at her peak now and can only sold 50

>>73593151
In any case where all of ID3 got equal amount of stock, the one that sold out first is always Zeta, then Kaela and Kobo. That has always been the case since ID3 debuted

>>73591446
>catering to a country which has weaker currency than yen
Cmon anon, let's not pretend that the yen are USD, they're barely stronger than us, JPY akasupa literally worth almost the same as USD akasupa.

>>73592976
yup Cute Girls Do Cute Things is the million dollar recipe of success in Holo, don't believe any assholes newfags that want to turn Holos into Nijis

>>73592482
>Kobo's strength lies within SociaBuzz donos. Though there's no reliable way to track that.
Back in the day, yes. People spent 15k IDR (1$) every like 10 seconds. You can literally double her SC numbers from playboard to count her total donos.

Nowadays she barely gets any SB. Back then she gets tons of tourists, they want attention, so they send 1 SB and then fuck off. Her subs growth, poll participants, and VOD numbers was insane proportional to her CCV.

>>73593669
that's not the point
Cover won't make the merchs cheaper just to target indonesian casual fans. the standard for cheap merchs will always be in Yen.

>>73593952
>literally double her SC numbers
Why not 10 times? You cannot prove it.

>>73593453
>In any case where all of ID3 got equal amount of stock
Source? Your ass? They never have the same stocks on Tokopedia in their first year, Kobo always got more stocks, while Zeta and Kaela does always sold out almost instantly.

>>73593952
She had around 40k sociabuzz donations by the end of 2022, for comparison she got $50k in SC in total back in 2022. It's a lot, but nowhere near double.

>>73594142
I can, i did the math before. Go back to /warkop/ around April-June 2022 and do your reps first newfag.

Alright guys, I think we should talk about something else.

>>73594281
>>45257322
Here dumbass, all of ID3 got 80 stock

>>73594609 (me)
100 acrylic stands
80 button badge
30 tote bag + keychain set

>>73594142
Anyway, you're actually right that it can even be 10 times since there are no proper tracking. But that two times calculation i did was THE MINIMUM, by using the numbers of comments on her sociabuzz page (assuming all donations are 15k~1$, it's easy to convert it). But back then that's actually still enough to make her the biggest earner from donations, just slightly more than Kaela.

Now, why i said two times was because i still actively watching her back then, and i can say that most donos are 15k, with some occasional 50k and very rarely 1jt+. So even with rough calculations it's not gonna be more than 3x her SC.

Again, i did post my calculations back then /here/.

>>73594609
>>73594785
That's not Tokopedia's stocks retard

>>73594805
>no proper tracking
>my calculations

>>73594914
>>45236362

>>73594547
You know you can just post whatever topic you want right? You don't need permission to post.

Or maybe you don't have anything to say, so just shut the fuck up and go do something else. Niggers like you who doesn't have any topic to discuss yet kept telling people to talk something else are the reason why /warkop/ kept dying.

>>73594976
I literally already said my methods retards, no proper tracking doesn't mean no tracking.

But why am i surprised that an average indogs have 0 reading comprehension skills. Something something tingkat literasi terendah kedua di dunia or something.

>>73594805
>slightly more than Kaela
Kaela already had $200k total in superchat by their first anniversary

>>73595167
Your tracking method is not reliable. Kayak survey abal abal.

>>73595167
stop larping as outnesian

>>73595009
Well, okay, i stand corrected, but that's almost 1 year, and iirc none of them are sold out but maybe i misrembering. Anyway, that doesn't make my initial point wrong tho, that Kobo used to sell the most merch by significant amount before gradually decreasing into the weakest 3rd gen.

>>73595277
ANJENG

>>73595180
Anon, Kobo has way past her peak by her birthday, let alone her anniversary

>>73595242
It's literally a fucking official data from SociaBuzz, how can it be not realible? The only things not reliable is your brain because you failed to understand what i wrote (which further proves by your sudden switch to Indonesian kek).
>>73595372
I literally speak Indos maggot nobody larping here. I'm just aware how fucking bad our average literacy level are.

>>73595662
I want to say edited but it's too accurate

>>73595242
Unless you're actually supporting the assumption that Kobo got WAY MORE from sociabuzz (like 10x or something), it's literally a most minimum numbers she can get from extracted from offial SociaBuzz tracking.

>>73595687
Kaela already started outearning Kobo by the time of her peak

>>73595954
>anon discover deepfakes

>>73596128
No she's not, Kobo got more if you count the MINIMUM donations she get from SociaBuzz (just search my calculation). In fact i think Zeta might be the second biggest earners back then as that was before Kaela's initial inclined SC wise.

Reminder that Kobo's peak was May-June 2022.

>>73595662
ToT

>>73596193
>on literal real CP model
these kobokers are nuts

>>73595954
Even if that's real, that must be an old pic right?

>>73596430
Wtf it was on CP model???

>>73596337
Kobo's peak was in July, Kaela starts inclining in June

kenapa kita tidak bahas deisex saja saudara-saudara sekalian?

>>73596498
KObo is a CP model anon

>>73596517
Sure, we have different definitions then. Her most popular solo stream (getting over it) does happen in early July, but that's also when the whole menhera things started and she took a hiatus.

>>73596696
Nobody fucking stop you if you want to talk about Deisex. Now sucks my dick or shut the fuck up.

>>73596430
>>73596498
They post a real CP before (and i mean real, flesh CP not a drawing), this is tame.

>>73596786
The menhera thing started in August, she was still growing at 100k subs/week until the end of July

>>73595662
make me fucking search for this bullshit
btw that AI edit is so fucking good

>>73596918
Wasn't some threads a year ago or so raided by CP or was it gore? (haven't been here in a while). Doesn't make it less fucked up tho. Loli is something I'm personally not a fan of but wouldn't knock someone over but actual CP is just fucked up.

>>73596193
I've been using deepfake to fap to hololive members' irl faces and I always feel really ashamed afterwards

>>73596987
Yeah, but I remember she started getting less SB by July, unless i misremember again. Anyway it doesn't matter when Kaela passed Kobo with her insane SC, i'm not gonna go back to dig it up since it's not even important to my original post.

>>73597394
It's okay, they don't know you do it

Fuck i accidentally learned about that site, didn't expect to be able to open it that easily.

>>73597718
yeah that fuck up even indosat+ipochan say that site is fine,like wtf you guys block blue board and that site is fine

>>73598030
they didn't block 4channel (the domain for blue boards), they only blocked 4chan, so this is hiromoot's fault for merging the two

im using spoiler tags am i cool now?

Ano Guerilla
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbyWqh8oxsc

gw penasaran ini numberfags ikut superchat ato cmn suka liatin angka doang? kalo ikut superchat sih wajar kecewa kyk berasa betting kuda dan terus kalah, tp kalo ngga knp kalian semua pada upset? gw jg penasaran kalian cmn enjoy liat angka gede doang ato juga enjoy konten vtubernya? mohon dijawab beneran penasaran soalnya.

>>73591446
>leeching e-celebs is more effective if you are a male vtuber like Kuzuha, Aruran and Rikka
But the same won't work on local malechuubas who unironically has more gachikois than female ones

>>73604182
It's not like the horse is losing, it's still the winning horse, just slower because it kept intentionally tripping over a pebble

>>73591446
Pointnya bukan di situ ngap. Maksudnya dipikiran mereka ngincer normies artinya jadi lebih bebas collab & pembawaan lebih lepas. Padahal itu doang ga cukup, ga sesimpel itu untuk bisa bersaing di red ocean

bump

page 10 bump

>1 watching
i think I should run before she notices me

>>73607510
i'm just adding that in the first place aiming for normies itself is a wack goal since they won't pay for shits,
even worse, normies are making fun of the hobby itself and become ironic weebs/fan
>>73605921
why would female gachikois become jealous from the likes of male ecelebs collab?
most ecelebs/normie content creator are males

>>73605921
are you concerned about LGBT gachis?
do harris has male gachis?

bwum

>Kobokerz already run their mouth dry
>It's AR live time and no one to bump
You had one job, Kobofags, and you can't even do it right

>>73598707
no, you looks like a massive loser. stop trying so hard to be involved in conversation nobody likes you, this is like your 4th times trying already

>>73618958
Too bad i don't care about this filthy place, if it's die it's die. Maybe lazy nigger like you can actually do your job instead of begging for others just because you're that incompetent.

>>73581889
>Di alt-acc nge-rant mulu

Eh, which one?

>>73620503
>Too bad i don't care about this filthy place
And yet, here you are, talking about your oshi /here/ instead of /#/ or /ehe~/, for the n-th time. See you next thread, Kobofag

>>73620833
zombie and alien

>>73618958
>UwU kobochads plz help us, our threads always died this is the first time our thread has traffic UwU
no

>>73607510
>Catering to normies
>Collabing with crypto grifter with bocils audience

Yeah, what could go wrong, eh?
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

>>73622472
you're acting like our audience care about crypto stuff

>>73618958
>AR live time
do anons /here/ actually care about that

>>73604182
halah, palingan itu anak2 kumon aja wan, dah dari kecil kedoktrin ama angka jadinya gitu

>>73624083
>Protest about crypto stuff = SJW
>In simper side = misigonist/inceldom
Is possible to enter two side with opposite polar spectrums?

>>73614289
>>73622472
Ya kalo pendekatan & cara narik kesimpulannya selalu gini ya wajar HoloID ga maju-maju ngap, engga dari pihak internal maupun komunitasnya kalo ngeliat suatu kasus ga di-breakdown dulu, asal main pukul rata. Ini udah 2024 ngap.

>>73624144
Why should we even care about AR Live tho? They aren't ID talents and the thing looks shit not even worth talking for their tech alone.

This is: https://youtu.be/iEFY8v0c_Bs?feature=shared
Better than any Vtuber contents

>>73624801
??? are you a genuine retards?
Windah shills crypto = SJW hates him
A bunch of simps and weebs are incels = SJW hates them
Kobo play wizard game and mock LGBT = SJW hates her

Where the fuck you get that it's polar opposite? The only fanbase that are polar opposite so far are the homo fanbase because sisters like you are full of SJW, which is a good thing if the homobeggars get less?

>>73625777
normies won't buy concert tickets or merchs, their only worth is contributing to CCV but they are unloyal and only there because of FOMO
i'm not saying that management shouldn't chase them, but they are doing it at the expense of sacrificing the passionate ones. if they are smart they could do both
JPs successfully attract both
>>73624144
no kek

>>73626946
>if they are smart they could do both
Will never happen as long as fujo Gita is still branch head

https://youtu.be/ZLBF9CoU8sE
now this is interesting

>>73614289
Agree with this >>73626946 You are mistaken if you hope that those normies will buy merch. Normies are there to inflate the numbers so you have a better chance of getting sponsorship or endorse. Then, slowly, you cultivate fans from those normies.
But given the current state, do you think the content of HoloId is entertaining enough to compete with other normies creators ?
They can't even maintain their own loyal fans.

>>73628630
unrelated, but it has been 4 years already and Moona's English hasn't improved yet... even Kobo is better nowz wtf moon

>>73630414 (me)
That's why I'm hoping for ID4. There is no competition in HoloID.
Hopefully, the new member will cannibalize the old members' earnings, creating a sense of urgency so that they start innovating more.
Of course, the new members should have a better work ethic, unlike their predecessors.

>>73631289
that's why i posted that, she talks so fucking slow i'm losing my patience. maybe some anon here wants to posts the summary kek
Now that i have watched some, it's interesting that she can get 3 songs just from just 1 million subs wish. Why doesn't Kobo use one of her wish yet to get 3 songs? She has 2 millions subs, she can keep the other wish if she really wants to keep it for something special

>>73631401
i don't think you can cannibalize the old members earnings much, except Kaela. most of the donators of other members left are just loyal fans, the gachis already left them long ago.

but you have to cater to EN too if you want Kaela's gachis, which means it's not exactly a new market

>>73631401
>Hopefully, the new member will cannibalize the old members
is that just what happen to ex-id

>>73632019 (me)
>i don't think you can cannibalize
*can't

>>73632400
>i don't think you can cannibalize the old members earnings much, except Kaela.
I think your wording is already correct if you're saying you can't take away the current loyal audience of each talent.

>>73631782
There are better things to spend it on. 3 original songs doesn't even sound that impressive when she can already release that many original songs in the span of just 5 months

>>73632744
that's actually not me, idk why they did that

>>73633087
The gap between Oh Asmara and Entah was too big, it almost killed her music career until Help revive it. It will help (heh) if she can release something between Oh Asmara and Entah to keep the momentum. Again, she has 2 million subs (two wish), she can use one of them since she already said by her anniversary last year that she wanted to focus on music (then proceeded to only released 1 cover in the span of 9 months).

>>73632283
Which is why we don't need to accelerate, we're not niji, and if we want competition, then what we need is raise other corpos to stand equal to holo, not with self cannibalization within holo

>>73621007
post examples

>>73631401
i've seen some merakyats moved to zeta and kaela

>>73633582
NVM, i just watch the clips more and she still needs to pay for the MV kek. But maybe since Kobo can compose the songs herself, she can asks Yagoo to fund the MV instead and just get Erickson to produce it since her problem was always the lack of money for MV.

>>73633824
last warkop or the last two

>>73633582
>if she can release something between Oh Asmara and Entah to keep the momentum
the Everything Goes On cover? It's almost at 3M views, technically speaking it's more successful than two of her latest original song

>>73634010
yeah, there are still some but usually it's not the big donators that move on, because they already basically becomes their only big gachi (like i doubt six will abandon risu or dillon with kobo)

>>73634342
i mean original songs, but yes it's still 1 cover in 9 months. she also said publicly that mv funding is a problem.

>>73634264
itu bukan masalah zombie sama alien doang deh. rata2 member holoid yang punya alt acc juga sering rant. masalahnya aja yang beda2

>>73634528
The reason why Oh! Asmara is as successful as it is was because of her Overdose cover blowing up, so there is still a correlation between cover and original song and how they perform. Actually, you can say the same thing about HELP!!

>>73635078
which other holos are active in rm other than them? i know risu sometimes stream in her rm

>>73635078
Di luar mereka berdua (+ tupai), masih wajar-wajar aja sih. Merak ya begitulah, kebanyakan sakit-sakitan. Bulan juga kadang ngeluh, tapi kalo liat beberapa waktu belakangan lagi enjoy karena mau buka cafe. 3 orang yang gw sebutin pertama itu worst offender sih di rm-nya

>>73635218
Eh, idk, Overdose was help massively by JP tourists (and other non ID tourists) while Oh Asmara was mostly just ID fans and ID tourists. It's just the hype from Mantra Hujan and the fact that it's a good and refreshing Indo love song (most indo pop are mellow shit rn).

>>73635469
menurut gw iofi yang paling banyak punya pengaruh buruk ke member holo id. ollie kayaknya keseret sama iofi sejak awal 2023 entah apa yang terjadi tiba2 mereka jadi sering banget collab. personalitynya ollie jg agak berubah di masa2 itu

>>73635609
You do realize that the majority of her Overdose cover's listener are still Indonesian right, the song being in Japanese doesn't mean that most of its listeners are Japanese. Also Mantra Hujan was already slowing down to a crawl by the time Oh! Asmara was released. The song being good kept its momentum, but the initial hype for the song was massively boosted by her Overdose cover, otherwise I doubt it would've reached 1M in just a week

>>73635469
Ollie sama risu masih mending ngerant sesuai problem mereka masing2. Maybe it's a me problem, But I can't stand Iofi's SJW behavior. tentang AI art lah tracing lah yg pernah jadi grammar police lah, jadi sok bener aja jatuhnya.

>>73631401
>Hopefully, the new member
wake up
there will be no ID4 we are getting the starsJP treatment, anon
no new girls if no big numbers
we are dying a slow death
i wish i could trade HoloID girls' spirits with JP homos, at least JP homos still haven't given up on their branch. also StarsJP management mass enlist them on eceleb VCR server >>73566013

>>73638005
so true sister

>>73637017
Oh, no, you're right. She's the worst of the bunch just because her flimsy stance in THAT issue, and she's not a professional artist to begin with. What make it worse is that she's not even struggling in art industry to make ends meet, since that's not where her main income comes from

>>73638087
i would like to be proven wrong

>>73638005
>Implying that's a bad thing
If anything this is a good moment to introspect and look at the developments ID vtuber has seen since nijimerge, in a world where they can't no longer copas whatever nijiID did, they need to come up with innovations of their own to survive

>>73638599
it's only a bad thing if the management is tone deat and the talents still dislike streaming and having a fanbase / gachis
pasrah, then blaming the casuals and the low income fans for their failures to generate more income instead of themselves

>>73634342
SVC deserves its low number. Not counting the cute MV, the song itself is some of the laziest piece of shit I've ever heard since that garbage love you 3000 shit.

>>73638994
gachis=/=unicorns retard

>>73638994
The latter half is basically what happened to NijiID, and apparently there's a growing sentiment on several ID members that has been mentioned above

>>73639099
i never said they are the same tho, retard

>>73638994
>the talents still dislike streaming and having a fanbase / gachis
where did this idea come from?

>>73639182
i don't know the situation in NIjiid was like, but i don't want them to be pasrah. let's emulate the jp spirit of not giving up
>>73639291
secret sauce

>>73639099
the retards at kikebook and xitter are too retarded to distinguish them so it's pointless trying to defend the existence of gachi

all of them are drowned too deep in their LE NO JOMOK kool aid

>>73638994
I mean tbf, holoID is 4 years old now, like it or not they'll eventually get bored or burnout from it, not to mention the type of chat they had to deal with which makes their position worse than call center costumer service, so no shit they grew tired from it

>>73639909
I just realized, but since when did our local weebs hate jomok? I understand yaoi, but even yuri right now is not as acceptable as it was.

>>73640505
I blame the harem stories in LN/manga/anime

>>73639030
i mean, it's a challenge to crate a song in 3 day, what do you expect. heck even the real song itself was created in like an hour or something. it's kobo's fault for delaying the release and allowing whyusan to make the MV expensive for what it was supposed to be (a quick and cheap song for Kobokerz to listen too while she was in vacation to japan with family).

>>73633750
I don't mean accelerate like what Niji did. Just one more, I think 4 gen is enough.
>>73632283
Sure, outside competition is preferable. But I don't think it will appear in the near future.

>>73640505
The rise of LGBT and SJW, back in the day it's funny to pretend to be gay because you're obviously not (look at kaskus back in pre 2018ish). Nowadays everyone hate LGBT and SJW that it's not funny anymore because they did so much real damages to society.

>>73640505
Don't know how the hell this happened but somehow we become more conservative and yet less religious at the same time over the years

>>73640505
Wibu rohis

>>73640936
Did you forget the entire existence of sungut lele

>>73639030
Nah, the song was perfectly fine for what it's supposed to be, and the views while really low should be expected for a cheap and quick music like that.

It's just that the MV was too good and too expensive for something that it's supposed to be, making the views count bad because it's not gonna make a profit now. She needs to learn how to manage a project better, ever since the Oh Asmara incident she's giving way too much freedom to whoever she commissioned with, the backlash actually lives rent free in her head.

>>73639030
I mean, it's cheery and catchy. It does feel a bit repetitive after a while.

>>73641134
i don't think the mv is that expensive. yes the 3d is unnecessary, but most of the footage are free stuff from fans and herself. unless whyusan charge a fuckton for the 3d and shit (which he should never do if he's smart and want more job, it's just a beta after all since he just learned it).

>>73641076
i'm not familiar with that, no

https://twitter.com/teamrrqofficial/status/1779358920688975884
>Windah watch party RRQ valo
>Miti watch party PRX valo
Where's my ID4 with a sports and esposrts enthusiasts chuuba cover

>>73641735
Yeah, it's a free practice and free promotion for him that he can now make good 3D too for MV. He's a massive asshole if he charge big for something she didn't asked for.

>>73641804
Have you seen a reaction image of some shirtless black man with absurd Indonesian caption? That's basically their entire shtick

i came up with an idea

what if HoloID/ Aka Virtual pay Windah to make a server (Rust, GTA, Minecraft, etc)? but the majority of the members in that server is HoloID vtubers / Aka Virtual vtubers. (why they have to be the majority? i'll explain that later)

this idea came from my rrats that the current eceleb VCR server purpose is to make "StarsJP box"
StarsJP played rust on their own server but it didn't attract tourists. However with ecelebs name heading the project it will certainly attract tourists.

>majority
when you are trying to leech a group
you are also gambling your current audience
there are 2 possibilities :
1.you will absorb the audience of the group, or 2.the group will absorb your audience.
this is why when leeching a big group (in this case ecelebs audience) you should at least take 4 or more friends with you.

>>73642466
Yeah no I don't want HoloID near those sexpest

>>73643210
kek figured out
i kinda predict someone would say that
this strategy is best for male vtubers and vtuber group with large amount of members
9 members group like HoloID can't do this strategy

>>73640044
Then they should graduate, it's pathetic how much they complain. If they're not good enough then they shouldn't be in Hololive

>>73643346
this is why i'm liking this strategy if you change holoID with all other corpos and indies so that this could be the weapon needed for other players on ID vtubing to emulate holobox

>>73643540
mass graduation won't bring ID4

>>73643540
You know, I think ID is lacking a ... maternal figure for a lack of better word. Someone from the old guard like Fubuki, or Mio, who has this mengayomi aura that can provide comfort for those troubled souls

>>73642184
that "pake nanya" shit? idk that doesn't look gay to me

>>73644013
their mother figure is Risu.... yeah it's grim

>>73644155
Well, not the image itself but the facebook page where the image came from is basically what you described as pretending to be gay, except this time they're "pretending" to be sexually attracted to black men

>>73644013
To be fair, EN also doesn't have that. They're individually competent though since most of them have experience as successful content creators

>>73644013
iofi...

>>73640998
That's because Indonesia is an East Asian country that happens to be Islamic.
For East Asian countries (countries/cultures under the influence of mainland Chinese culture), collectivism is everything. Society expect people to sacrifice their individualism for the greater good of society. In layman's terms, you have to blend in in society.

In Indonesia, it just happens that you have to appear religious as your mask within society. It's ingrained to our brain that doing something that makes us look religious is more important than being actually religious.
And there you are, we have a society that's more conservative in collective values but less religious individually.

>>73644718
I see, i don't see how it's related to my post tho. Like i said nowadays there are a lot of genuine gay and such, so people don't treat them as a joke anymore. Back in the day it's common for someone to said "gw suka cowok :bettys" ironically and practically everyone knows it's a joke.

>>73644223
>risu
has a futa cock
>>73644752
>iofi
is a menhera

>>73644948
>>risu
>has a futa cock
I want her to fuck me silly with that Ayunda voice and degrading the shit outta me.

>>73644013
You're right.
Area15 are all childish and far from wise, they're the typical bratty city girls who needs a father figure. I'm willing to bet their taste in man is like that, older and financially secure.
Reine may be the closest motherly figure by age and her well-off family background, but she is just as bratty.
Yea now that I think about it, none of the 9 girls has that kind of dependable aura.

https://twitter.com/kobokanaeru/status/1779384436183982560
>Can take the entire April month basically off with only streaming if it's a collab
>Can hire a Personal Assistant, making her do all the works while she's chilling watching anime
Maybe she doesn't need SC after all, that sponsorship money must be nice, huh?

>>73645057
That basically all IDchuubas in a nutshell, I don't think there's anyone on the wider industry that channels what >>73644013 said

>>73644725
Eh, EN pre-advent was also similar to what happened in ID. A bunch of hiatuses and burnout from the talents

>>73645057
that father figure is me

>>73644223
Mamah Moona

Holy, I didn't think that we're reaching bump limit in one day. Make a new bread soon?

>>73645022
Ayu >>>> Ayunda, not even close

>>73645741
hmm, depends if others wanna live react mira's comeback later on, otherwise save it for the 19th, we gotta have a bread for re:mem gen4 debuts

I fucking knew /#/fags are full of indogs.

>>73645837
/vt/ is full of SEA

>>73645311
Yeah, and that's because Omegay was stupid, then Jap Man came and saved EN. Now you know what you need to do Yagoo, just fire Gita

>>73645777
I have degradation kink, anon. Ayu's voice won't work for that.

>>73646356
WE NEED ID MAN TING!!

>>73645106
I feel that Epel is sorta qualifies, but even she has her own fair share of problems

>>73645796
speaking of re:mem, holy shit i didn't know echo at 500k subs already. she's by far the most popular among them now mogging chloe by a miles. feels bad for cecil now

>>73646641
shorts is the meta

>>73646641
>>73646711
That, and the fact that Echi has better networking than Cecil. Sure, you could argue that management should try to equalize them so they have the same chance, but I think it's easier to make someone a spearhead than to stimulate equal growth on multiple talents

New bread /here/:
>>73647438
>>73647438
>>73647438

Goodbye warkop