/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

But that's based

3k ccv

Last stream before b2 sis!

>>73528040
Niji is fucking dead.

>>73527916
its the only chance she has, other than learning mandarin.
Full Niji surrender

>>73528040
holy GRIM

>>73528040
Great return after 2 months and Mint is about to pass her by starting. When are thr raids coming?

>>73528040
Lower then expected honestly

>>73528040
Still too much.

>>73527916
The merge? Like CWC dimensional merge? A true believer!

>>73528376
I don't even know if anybody else in NIjiEN is even streaming

>>73528719
>not even any overlap
It’s SO fucking over

>>73528565
can someone explain the culture of posting false in threads

>>73528719
Finana was going to but she canceled to go to the gym

>>73528757
Looks like Doppio is the only one

>>73528719
>People stream even during Rosemi 3D.
>No one stream during Elira yapping even if it’s a friday.
Holy management power. Find me a better explanation sis.

>>73528719
Vox, Rosemi, Shu, Doppio collab at 4 Finanas

>>73528040
Doki is gonna mog her so bad...

so what is this a typical 12 hour zatsu? when does she play the mid jrpgs?

>>73528040
I genuinely expected it to be around 10k or just over, due to drama and hate watchers; she couldn't even get that. God damn.

>>73528966
Vox still hiding in collabs I see. I feel like his first public comeback stream will be his birthday at this point. I'm not counting the billbill stream

>>73529006
Mint is currently 1.4k above her at the moment.

>>73529070
I suppose it could’ve, if not for the thirteen month chat restriction.

>>73529124
What happens if he doesn’t do well on his birthday? He’s a huge numberfag, so I’d imagine it wouldn’t sit well with him.

>>73528409
I might be retarded but I expected like 5x - 10x more because of the drama and return after 3 months etc.

>>73529070
It's quite sad and paints a grim reality that there are very little real niji supporters in this board.

Not even worth hate watching, it was best when it was a blank screen, she should try it again.

>>73529023
Yes, Megaten is mid

>>73529327
Can't really troll the chat so that's probably why

>>73529327
The drama was anti hype. And she just came back from a vacation in Japan like everyone else, its not like she's back from a 6 month hospital stay or something. I think this is pretty expected

>>73529167
Dramatubers are smart, they watch the vods so thet can use ccv as a weapon.
Unironically youtube vods still make money but people /here/ don’t give a crap about them.

>>73529313
He is the numberfag king

>>73529313
Maybe he'll graduate

>>73529504
Pathetic.

>>73528040
Holy OUCH!!!

>>73529428
>Nijisis already excusing stuff
Everyone streamed and did collab, even vox did collabs. She’s only back now cuz Riku told her to toss her ass and promote the AV…sorry meant to say AR.

GRIM

>>73528040
>less than Mint playing a shitty Papers Please ripoff

>>73529637
Ewiwa-chempai...not like this...

>>73528851
Good for her. We all need a little time dedicated to improving our health.

>>73529637
Is she losing viewers now?!

>>73529637
>not even 10 Finana

It's like she never left.

>HOLOSEETHE

>>73529428
Sure. How coincidental. And the fact that after returning from a "vacation" of a couple of months she can't get even 60% of a random part 3 Doki debuff game collab is perfectly normal she's doing great

>>73529637
she dropped under 10 finanas, what a return! what a win for niji!!

>>73528040
imagine how excited she was before the stream, thinking she was gonna get huge numbers despite a lot of them being hatewatches

>>73529313
Honestly that might be why he's waiting he would get bigger numbers with a birthday and comeback buff

>>73529898
>not even hatewatchers tune in anymore
heh

>>73529822
Mint just broke 5k. The full humiliation. Is she at least yapping anything interesting or just nonsense and dogeza to watch the AR?

>>73529833
the fuck are (You) even talking about?

>>73528040
Want to consider even something GRIMMER? Petra, Rosemi, Scarle, Aia, Enna and every other female has been hitting much lower numbers than that. That 3k? That's all the audience left for female streamers in Nijisanji. 3k is the maximum amount a female Niji can get.
>>73529070
Nijisanji crossed the threashold where people don't even want to hatewatch it, they want the company gone.

>>73529504
Imagine seeing a holoEN girl talking like this openly in public. She would never live it down. Niji fans are naive and have no standards at all however. It's why they accept shit like the Luca revelations too, there is nothing too lowbrow, callous or unprofessional that they won't accept. Is this what kpop stans are like? Jesus what fucking actual subhumans, what fucking actual real sheep being herded mindlessly.

>>73528040
Holy shit! 10 Finanas!

Humiliation Ritual.

>>73529070
In the off chance that the algorithm didn't kill her channel due to losing subscribers and a lack of content being posted, it probably speaks more to the fact that NijiEN scared off the vast majority of their male demographic for good. Pomu and Selen were all that was keeping them going, and the company lost them both within the span of 30 days.

black stream really killed her channel kek

>>73529955
seems like a pretty normal zatsu actually

>>73527916
has she yabbed yet? i cant stand listening to this bitch yap

>>73530043
ah, thank you for the reminder that I didn't "like" Minto's stream yet. totally missed that for some reason

>>73529637
imagine how much they make(lose) from the AR live

>>73530033
The Finana unit is too fucking reliable I swear to god

Tick Tock, Ewiwa...

>>73530065
Basically Rosemi is the only girl remaining in even kinda decent standing there and she was never a heavy hitter with big crowds to begin with. If da wose gwaduwates then it is truly all over for them and they will have no girl left who a male Niji fan could even contend or pretend is e EN as good as the average small corpo girl much less comparable to any holoEN. Pomu and Selen were literally the only ones giving nijiEN some serious respect of "okay, they do have SOME good talents" and it's just running on fumes with them gone, at least for the girls side of the branch.

>>73530073
Boring as fuck. At least make a yab, it’s not like nijisis are interested in females, they want the drama.

>>73530227
I mean, there's only so much money you can make when the tickets are $35. I truly don't know what possible cope Anykara was huffing when they claimed this quarter would be the best in the branch's history.

>>73530282
I’m a dragoon and I was 100% sure this was gonna beat her due to all the sis+drama. Now I can’t wait for the massive seethe of /#/ results tomorrow.

>>73530379
I didn't know tickets were that cheap really banking on having a lot of people buy tickets

>>73530065
It's funny that NDF tried to push the defense that "everyone will forget about this in a couple months", and they were actually kind of right. They just forgot how bad it would be if that happened.
>Entire business model for your industry is built on trying to get people to pay attention to you
>Nobody cares about you anymore.
Unbelievably grim
>>73530379
The cope was always "investors aren't aware enough to realize how impossible this is, so we can use it to stall a couple more months while the C-suite gets their golden parachutes ready". There was zero intention to actually follow through on it.

>>73530033
Onli if you round up, she is under 3k now for a while, she is at 9.9 finanas.

>>73530379
They are mostly banking on the JP male side with ROFLMAO and Chronoir concerts as well
No way that is enough either though

>>73530282
Mint is streaming with 5.3k right now

>>73530379
>I truly don't know what possible cope Anykara was huffing when they claimed this quarter would be the best in the branch's history.
That was no cope, they had to promise *something* to investors. Now they're simply thowing everything they can at the wall hoping that anything sticks. But imagine they'd been honest "hey guys, as you can see, we're in deep shit. Thanks for asking, no, we don't have any idea what to do". Company would be shuttered now.

>>73530623
meanwhile, Mint's Finana is still rising...

>>73528040
spbp

>>73530379
They are at least planning on it being so by crowding all these events into it, probably predicting that according to their claimed active fandoms it is guaranteed to be a blockbuster. However that is going off their assumed projections and we can already see in reality things are taking their toll everywhere, Luca had like 3k CCV for his birthday streams vs 10k last year - that is a 70% decline. So they probably bean counted a projected revenue based on assumptions that are now very out of dahe.

Presumably, they need it to be a big boost to maybe not get Riku to put them on notice. They are huffing copium telling themselves and the investors it's gonna be the best shit ever. So if it's not, that might truly be the beginning of the end for them I think, unless Riku feels that they EN must exist only so they can still tell investors they have overseas projects/investments planned. If they retreat from a once successful overseas venture that also would look terrible in its own way although I am not sure if it would have a more chilling effect than the awful reputation the EN branch is bringing to the company.

>>73530569
Investors are 1000% aware of the shutshow but are in pure cope mode that JP will save Q4. They have zero hope in EN after the Rosemi flop. I’m not shitting on the wose either, they ultra-upvoted posts pointing out how 15k for a 3D is pathetic.
They are just pissed off because a lot of them brought at 3k and now it’s stabilized at 2.5 when it’s not shortselled. For someone who put money in there is grim, they will demand dividends and that means more money out of the investment pool for Niji.

Not even with the biggest buff available to Niji they can break the 3K mark while their former talent are easily going over 5K.

They let go their most profitable performers while getting an enormous amount of bad PR. I think these are legit grounds to dissolve the branch.

>>73530379
You honestly have to wonder if its deliberate, because save for falsifying documents its not clear how they can say that the end of this April will be great for the company. Its historically been their lowest quarter due to a lack of events, maybe they're planning on tanking the stock price so their investor friends can profit off the doomps?

>>73530802
I pretty sure some Nijifes merch will be in the Q4 report

>>73530800
Cope nigga. /vt/ lose.

>>73530282
>>73530681
the interesting thing here is that I think that they kinda "cannibalize" their audiences to some degree. I'm not sure who I'm gonna watch. Meanwhile Elira is under 10 finanas

>>73530946
who is supposed to make money when pomu is gone?
who is supposed to watch them when selen is gone?

>>73530919
Keychains and stickers from the dollar store don't make a lot of bank

The entire branch is trying to prop up Ewiwa right fucking now. They are in full desperation mode.

>>73531063
Luxiem and Noctyx as per usual

>>73531134
Not sure about merch sales but luca's birthday was really bad this year

>>73531087
Aaaand still going down anyways

>>73531208
>Mogs Gura

>>73531087
You're a crybaby lol

>>73531222
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
GET FINANAD GET FINANAD GET FINANAD GET FINANAD

will she go down to 9 finanas? she is at 9.6 fiananas and tanking even lower

>>73530802
That would never work. If you were insane enough to try something like that, you'd have to deliberately cripple your company for all the world to see (and we're talking revenue in this graph, not profits, which can be manipulated more easily) AND raise the stock price afterwards. But stock prices are heavily, heavily dependent on public perception and no one sane will invest in a company that's fallen of a cliff. Add to that that their saving throw for this quarter are tons of one-off events, which they would have to repeat for every new one.
All these assumptions are also disregarding that they spent 2.5 billion yen on buybacks to *increase* stock prices just a few months back.

>>73531222
holy shit I just witnessed it dropped like 100ccv live TAZUMI SEND YOUR BOTS

>>73531261
You're one of the only remaining nijiEN fans left in the entire fucking world lol

Maybe not even a fan, maybe you are being laid giftcards to spread propaganda and have no actual care or intent to say anything other than claim Niji is somehow winning at anything despite their being a building actively burning down for all to see.

>>73530033
i still dont know how much one finana is but i laugh every time

>>73531063
The only money-making girl they have left is Scarle. She's safe enough, but in terms of viewership the only girls they have left are Enna, maybe Rosemi? That's not good because Enna is generally a loose cannon that's been causing problems for the branch since December 2022, and that's despite her seemingly being tardwrangled since February. And while I love Rosemi, she appeals to an increasingly shrinking demographic of NijiEN, that being "people who just want to watch a cute and happy girl play vidya or do funny streams". She's also probably better as a supporting role and not as the lead, but very few of the girls left at NijiEN can really carry the branch on their own.

>>73531250
I don't really care either way I'm just a numberfag

>>73531087
>>73531222
Hopefully they go indie and NijisanjiEN turns into a full homo branch.

>>73531250
If there’s anyone you don’t want to compare to, it’s Gura.

>>73531443
around 300 do your math retard

>>73531087
Ugly fat gross bitches lezzing out will surely invite an audience

>>73531456
>in terms of viewership the only girls they have left are Enna
Anon... Enna is down to 3 Finana lately...

>>73528040
Now think about how many are hatewatchers who can't comment.

>>73531456
I still hope Da Wose gets picked up by mold woman... moldy woman save her...

>>73528040
What does she usually get? 3k sounds good for Niji honestly.

>>73531515
its funnier if its unclear

>>73531443

1 fianana 300

>>73531570
the fishman will get her.
it is her destiny.

>>73531539
0. Why the fuck would there be hate watchers if they can't harass Elira?

>>73531487
kek that might improve their numbers if they go full BFE fujobait

>>73531660
i have it in the background to see if she says something retarded but i can't stand listening to her yap she is so fucking boring
all i'm getting out of this is that sisters only like this whore because she's a yaoi slut

>>73531443
>>73531515
It's exactly 300.
tonight, we shitpost in hell

>>73531487
>the Law of Manjisanji becomes absolute in NijiEN
I’d be okay with that. Keeps them contained there.

>>73531642
She's lacking the menhera flavor I find in the other Phase girls. Unless she's really hiding her power level, I don't think she'd be a good fit

>>73531740
I like Elira because I like heterosexual women.

>>73531222
It's that easy.

>>73531914
She only likes Japanese old man dick, dog dick, and live eels.

>>73531914
there are plenty of heterosexual female vtubers that aren't sociopaths, so why elira?

>>73532004
wow, what a great success.
with the biggest drama buff i could her imagine to have.

throughout all this, we still don't know if elira did anything wrong and probably never will. that black stream was such a bad idea.

>>73531497
How do you plan to compete with someone like Gawr Gura

>>73531456
I say this as a former Niji JP listener, never having watched an EN, but Scarle's probably the most Nijisanji-like liver they have
The average niji barely collabs with anyone and just keeps to their own fanbase, and I actually think it's great considering Nijisanji barely gives any support to them
I don't know why Niji EN's still trying to be hololive lite with the collabs and branch unity bullshit when it's already revealed they bully each other lmao

>>73532214
Bravo Kojima, manifesting another MGS3 reference

>>73531250
>Mogs Gura
Gura made about 3 million dollars with her last collab shit in JP, without streams

>>73532214
>that black stream was such a bad idea
Still up btw

>>73532214
A bad idea, but something they're not regretting doing apparently >>73532452

>>73532209
Keep coping Elira

>>73532567
ohhhhhhhhhh!
fuck.
I was a bit too fast, I thought that some sister celebrated how Elira rose above 10 Finana again, I unironically didn't see that this was basically with what Doki started.
Yeah, I messed up with that post.

>>73528040
you can't just lie on anonymous board anon no way a return stream is that sma-
>palestine
niji huge W girlboss slayy holobronies in shambles right sisters?

>>73527916
based ENcels btfo

There are 4 sisters doing the rounds

I used to enjoy watching her dumb streams back in 2021 when she'd be on late at night at like 3 AM my time because her sleep schedule was total fuckage and pomu would always go to bed early because of her mcjob. But frankly the magic is gone, the spell is broken- elira can never go back to being le chill late night dragon because she turned out to be a cunt. Everything she does from now on you'll always wonder what she's really thinking, does she think Elira's Forever Random Cake Noises is a dumb queer, does she hate the fuck out of her chat? It's not 2021 anymore and never will be again, Lazulydia is dead.

>>73532214
if Elira somehow quits and goes back to her PL, she deserves to be lynched off the internet for her wrongdoings

>>73532744
What? No, don't accept fault. Call us faggots and deny everything. Is this your first day here?

the grudge posting when nijiEN gets folded will be cataclysmic

9 finanas incoming!!! brace yourselves!!

i hope she checks her numbers vs doki's after her stream and cries so hard she pukes

>>73532988
I'm literally just in Mint's stream and just check occasionally when I see a red exclamation mark in another tab. I just made an honest mistake, I'm here to shit on Elira and honestly thought that sisters now celebrate how some unfortunate souls tuned in to push her above 10 Finana

>>73533081
NDF was working overtime in every Doki/Mint/Sayu thread, and for what? For 10 Finanas? That's fucking hilarious

>>73528040
Imagine this is *with* the drama buff and on average she won't get more than 1k.

>>73532845
nah sometimes there are just botted downvote

>>73533147
9.15 finanas! don't give her credit!

>>73532882
>Liacon speaking
lmao, rumao even

>>73528936
Aia, Ver, and Doppio are currently streaming. Doppio's stream is a collab with Rosemi, Vox, and Shu.

>>73532922
She nuked her PL.

>>73533109
Considering how she started the stream, she'll probably be crying from happiness for breaking 1k CCV and over 3k in superchats (so far). Girl sounded like she was dooming hard.

>>73533392
the twitch one is still there

Mostly USD

>>73533147
For 3k in superchats and gifted memberships out the ass. Remind me how much Doki made on her karaoke

>>73533478
89 fools and their money are soon parted

sisters are coping HARD

>>73533493
Only 90 gifted so I wouldn't even really say out the ass

>>73532922
>lynched off the internet for her wrongdoings
Considering barerly any haters bothered to tune in, I think she's safe from any hatemobs of that size. The only question that needs to be settled is whatever or not there's enough of her audience to follow her if she leaves.
>>73533478
>her audience is not the general Nijisanji audience
>the only Niji left with a major western viewership
Kek

>>73533493
So Elira is about to make $1k after YouTube and Riku take their cuts... After she's been silent for two months. Bravo sister!

>>73533654
the general nijisanji audience is pagpags

>>73533478
proably 90% women and 10% Eliraschizo

>>73533290
Amusingly, I don't really watch lia anymore since the fat fuck incident last year. When the illusion is broken all you have left is a girl who likes homestuck- and who can love a person who loves homosuck and hussy?

>>73533493
Seriously, why are nijiretards bringing up the karaoke of all streams?

>>73533867
nigga what do you even watch? Clara?

>>73533867
>fat fuck incident
Never heard of this, qrd?

>>73533830
Quite a few people sending multiple SCs as well somebody sent 5 of different amounts with the last one being an aka

>>73531497
>>73532242

>>73528040
damn

>>73528040
watch it sink to 3 view when the hatewatchers get bored

>>73533081
>>73533147
less than 9 Finanas now

>>73533981
Some fucker from discord invaded her asmr stream and she completely shifted her attention to him

>>73533478
funny how few CAD there are, got more SEAs and japs than her home country

>>73534102
people starting to fall asleep

>>73534106
Why is it always fucking Discord? What is it about Discord that inspires blatant acts of niggatry in VTubers and their fans? I don't get it.

They're coping so hard lol

>>73534242
she put me to sleep the first 10 minutes, genuinely no idea how people can listen to this bitch yap. she is plain as fuck.

>>73533478
>6 x GBP superchats
Disgusted I have to share an island with them.

>3k CCV
>more money than Enna's Bday
>more money than Enna's Nier Concert
>more money than Rosemi 3D
>will end up with more money than Petra 3D
I know people focus on the CCV, but she mogged the fuck out of the rest of the branch.

>>73534558
and what does that say about the state of the branch

>>73534102
8.7 finanas!! let's go!!

>>73534622
It's dying, is that supposed to be a revelation?

>>73534558
Don't watch Enna, but Rosemi and Petra have never been very big earners.
A better metric would be compared to Scarle.

>>73534364
Kek
What will the cope be once EN is merged into the main branch?

>>73534558
30% for yt
50% for the yatch
she may be able to buy some yaoi mangas,

>>73528040
Put me in the screenshot parrot or I will chew on your nuts

>>73534840
No, Parrot! It's a trap!

>>73534364
i feel i always see this nijisister coping on twitter shes prob an alt account for enna oe something

>>73535143
She is the Enna to Mae's Millie

>>73530802
If they falsify their financial documents and get caught, they'll have bigger problems to deal with than just losing the EN market.

>>73532065
>there are plenty of [...] vtubers that aren't sociopaths
Name some. I'll wait

>>73532345
They seem to view themselves as the Bizarro Hololive or that they like Hololive but better because they are more woke and force in dudes all the time to own le incels. Welp, those le incels have spoken and what a surprise, they do not like nijiEN's direction. Lots of people saying they were only holding on for Pomu and Selen were not bullshitting when those girls left as they have ditched nijiEN overall now and many if not the majority of them are 3views aka standard small corpo tier.

>>73528040
worse...

damn, she's bleeding viewers
she's at 2500 now

>>73534266
People (usually) women can craft their own tiny little social bubbles entirely on Discord where they can leverage social engineering and abuse mod privileges to bully people and create a group of totally uncritical simps. It appeals very deeply to their every base instinct. Basically the same environment as MMO guilds except 500x worse

>>73535752
Hate watchers leaving after nothing happened

>>73531515
the math would be a lot more simple when she Inevitably drops down to 200

>>73535752
a little over 8 finanas...

>>73535752
i don't know what 2500 means, but she has 8.4 finanas.

>>73534840
do it parrot.

>>73533493
comparing a karaoke from someone that isn't known for a singer to a RETURN stream? thats the biggest buff stream ever after 3D and graduation sis at least reread your post before posting

>>73534072
Similar to Enna who used to have the highest viewership of any of the girls besides Selen and now she struggles to get 800 viewers without raids.

>>73535752
Oh no! The dramafags are realizing there is no drama and stopped watching! Surely she won't mog Doki's week in a single minut-AIEEEEEEEEEEE

>>73534364
This is the exact cope Nijifags used when it was just Lazulight

Shes ready a ton of the english ones.
All this retarded ass bait in the catalog because people missed her so much.
You fucking lost little monkey, time to move the fuck on with your sad pathetic life.

>>73527916
>ignores most english supas
Wait was that true?
Good way to chase off those donors if so kek.

>>73536296
how much does yt and nijisanji take?

>>73536586
YouTube takes 30%, then Riku takes half of the remaining amount so the organ keeps 35% of the original supa amount
Easier to just divide by 3

>>73528376
Mint is streaming right now to 4k ccv
Nice vibes in the stream

>gone for 2 whole months
>everyone starts fucking off after 20 minutes
???

>>73529404
>Megaten is mid
Persona*

>>73534364
This sister needs the fucking antidote injected into her veins before she overdoses on copium.

This is not just the same kind of thing people said about the branch when it was just Lazulight, but it is the same thing people say about small corpos, at least insular ones that don't grow much and just circle the drain for a few years clinging to life. Small corpos with ambitious viewers like Phase or Idol (or at least, formerly idol from like last year) aren't satisfied and want their girls to get to be big stars. Groomers, losers and contrarian hipsters are the ones going "you know what it's fine if she has 200 viewers because we support her so much and are such a great mature community so much better than the fans for popular girls." That's exactly what they fucking say.

>>73535863
Anon, 300 is Finana's *low-end* ccv. Her actual average is around 1.5~2 Finanas.
I don't think the Finana measurement system is going to be changing anytime soon, especially since it's primarily a meme unit rather than a serious comparison.

>>73536586
Correct. This is Nijisanji and Elira's victory. Adds more to the people mogging Doki

>>73531456
>she appeals to an increasingly shrinking demographic of NijiEN, that being "people who just want to watch a cute and happy girl play vidya or do funny streams".
This is rather disingenuous because Rosemi's been there since the very beginning, has had her little ups and downs, and it is plain to see that she doesn't really offer much outside of her persona, which a lot of vtubers have and can supplant with other stuff.
I think people that could've liked Rosemi gravitated more towards Pomu because, and yes this is bias speaking, she pretty much did everything Rosemi did but better, or towards someone completely different like Selen, or Elira.
Even in the early Lazusydia days, Rosemi wasn't particularly popular in comparison and half the fun of watching her was rooting for the underdog. Sadly for her, her creative stuff also doesn't seem to get much traction. Take Rosemi Night Live, which I think is one of the most ambitious things a vtuber has done because this really was all done fucking live - she wrote it, acted in it, coordinated it. Easily one of the most daunting projects anyone in NijiEN has done. And it sits at a measly 54k.

Recent events haven't really helped anyone in NijiEN, but I dunno what it is about Rosemi that never translated to a lot of popularity despite being well-liked and having some viral clips.

>>73533493
Heres the thing about comparing doki's supas to nijiEN, doki gets to keep 70% of it, Niji Organs only get 35%, So doki absolutely made more money on her karaoke stream than elira will see from her return stream

>>73536296
I find it really funny that sisters have obviously run through all of Doki's streams on their discord and decided to pick the karaoke stream to compare Elira's return to, and they think this is an own.
lol
lmao even

>>73536886
>Goalpost shifting
Nijisanji wins. Elira wins. Doki loses. It's simple really

>3k is bad

you all are actually mentally ill

For someone who's been gone for 2 months, it sure doesn't sound like she's even been doing anything worth talking about.

>>73537039
For a return stream of the most popular niji girl? it is

>>73537039
ok Enna

>>73528040
DONT PUT ME IN THE VIDEO YOU FUCKING PARROT

>>73537039
3k after a 2 months "vacation" with a 500K fanbase as a corpo is bad, yeah

>>73528040

>>73537039
It's bad if you considering she's been gone for two months and should have gotten a drama boost

>>73536296
No, actually looking at all the currently available numbers, no. So yeah. How about that?

>>73528040
And back to numberfagging.
The single biggest declaration of defeat from dramafags, you guys lost SO fucking hard that you've retreated to this, numberfagging and screeching about how dead Niji is like you haven't done this for years.
This might be the biggest L in 4chan history, all that dramafagging, the catalog being on fire for weeks, for absolutely nothing.
A complete and utter defeat for dramafags and antis.

>>73537153
>>73537178
>>73537256
its better than 90% of vtubers you are so out of touch its insane
you literally only look at the numbers of the top percenters, it doesnt matter 3k is great for basically any vtuber
and guess what
numbers have never mattered

You faggots like numbers? Then how about you get Ewiwa the number to a suicide hotline, I'm concerned about her.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAAAA

>>73537018
Weak bait, try harder

when villains get what they deserve

>>73534558
35% of 3304 is 1156.4, out of the 100% youtube gets 30% and anycolor gets half of the remaining 70%
compared to dokibird's karaoke which got 1861
70% of 1861 is 1302.7
so yeah doki personally made more on her scuffed karaoke than elira did in this stream (assuming elira isn't gonna get more from her superchat reading which always encourages more supas)

>>73537272
>Over 800 in a minute completely mogs Doki's week except for her karaoke
>Her karaoke gets hard mogged too

Must feel bad to lose

>>73537347
God the seethe is so good keep going please

>>73537388
>time flies!!!!!!
it sure does when you're a dumb bitch

>>73536801
Probably like half her CCV are just rubberneckers hoping she addresses the black screen stream or anything about the situation really. Her pretending everything is great and fine is arguably necessary to not immediately plunge her back into the drama doghouse - but it also makes for a very boring, very fake feeling stream.

There is not a single word of sincerity or intent from her part to do anything other than damage control by proxy, by sweeping it under the rug, as long as she doesn't address anything. Even so I don't blame her for not trying because she would need to be a master propagandist and diplomat to spin things in a positive light successfully, but it also actively feels like we are just being given the runaround and it's both boring and dishonest. Choice of damnations on her part really, I can see why she did not want to stream because she had an impossible needle to thread.

>>73537039
this anon is right. 3k is not so bad for a lowly nijipheasant

>>73537401
Idk why people even bother seriously interacting with posts like that. Should be a simple “this person is retarded.” Thought in your head and move on.

>>73537486
not an argument :)

>>73537347

>>73530073
thank god.
t. dragoon

My wish is that today, all the bait threads are just "elira came back and felt supported" rather than "elira tried to fuck with doki again."

>>73537552
not an argument :)

>>73532922
>goes back to her PL,
She has no home to return anon...
>Literally nuked her PL

>>73537343
You nijisisters were the biggest numberfags in vtubing until everything started to go to shit. You reap what you sow.
Maybe you should have spent your time supporting her return stream rather than seething /here/. Kek

>>73537531
You're right, but my response changes nothing, is not the reaction they wanted.

>>73530946
The fuck are (You) talking about? Please stop eating pagpag and start making sense.

>>73537587
>elira came back and felt supported" rather than "elira tried to fuck with doki again."
Literal career and branch suicide. I couldn't begin to imagine what would compel her to do something like that; a bizarre fear.

>>73537722
Oh but we are supporting. This is more money in this stream than CCV. Loyal Nijichads keep on winning

>>73532845
kek

>>73536296
>Mogged doki's week
Are you SURE about that?
Nijifaggots should be banned from numberfagging, All they do is lie and expose themselves as shit eating retards

>>73537343
>for absolutely nothing
Yeah, nothing. As in no one bothered to even hate or drama watch her, she's now that irrelevant lmao.

>>73537448
>Doki
I'm comparing her to the rest of the branch, not to Internet Jesus. The interesting difference is there, not between her and Doki.

>>73531250
The only thing worse than a numbermonkey is a numbermonkey who doesn't understand how numbers work

>>73537448
>1302.7
So Elira can now afford this month's rent; plus the grocery bills if she lives in the midwest. Those takes sucks.

>>73537883
>If you add them all together
This is the final cope for the dramafag. Even when you add them all together vs her single regular Zatsus stream, it's still extremely close. Absolutely grim. As usual, mobs don't put their money where their mouth is

>>73537838
Clearly not lol

>>73537722
Remember that guy who made a new thread every time Vox passed a Holo member in subs? All those people gloating about his income vs Holos etc? Yeah they can all choke on shit.

Don't forget they were pure assholes who cared more about beating Holo than the content of the streams, they enjoyed watching numbers only, hence did not seem to notice it was a problem that most of the Luxiem fans were Asians who didn't even speak English and not Westerners. They just wanted to dunk on 'holobronies' and gave no shits if it was only because Luxiem was a fad and actual fluke of a success in China, where they were literally not designed to market towards at all.

>>73538085
CAD is weak right now, she'll survive the month. No guarantees about the next one.

>>73536858
Well put, anon. It's a no-win situation. This was the best outcome for Doki/Mint fans and Nijisanji but not for Elira.

>>73538128
>goalpost moving
>claims doki made less in a week than elira's zatsu
>proven wrong
>gets mad that you're using all of the week's streams, one of which was cancelled.

>>73538128
>This is the final cope
Nta but you literally said "Doki's week"
The seething is glorious, the rate of posting from you brings joy to my heart.

>>73538128
>goalpost shifting when the statement was disproven
Kekaroo, Take the L retard, Also keep in mind doki keeps 70%, ewiwa only gets 35%, I don't give a fuck about "nijisanji's combo victory" like that other inbred up above was yapping about, All that matters is the vtuber, and doki is getting more than elira is, Also doki made that entire 94k she has IN THE PAST 2 MONTHS, think about that, Doki made all of that in the same timeframe that elira was fucking gone, who is mogging who again?

>>73538232
Anon, those were the same people that are now making posts and threads about Doki and Mint's /#/, their oshi is and has always been the numbers.

>>73538277
Meant for
>>73537503

>>73528040
That's fucking abysmal with the drama biggest drama buff she'll probably ever receive.

>>73538295
>"Proven wrong"
>Has to add them all together instead of looking individually
So she mogged Doki.

YOU GUYS WANNA SEE A REAL RETURN STREAM'S NUMBERS?, CHECK THIS SHIT OUT
It's DOUBLY funny cause fuwamoco has streamed like a dozen times since "their break" and THEY STILL have a bigger return than someone who has literally vanished from the earth for 2 months, Kekaroo

>>73529637
She HAS to delete that black video. It will ALWAYS be her #1 most viewed stream now; she will NEVER be able to beat that VOD in terms of views. If she doesn't delete it, it will be a PERMANENT stain on the face of her channel.

>>73538503
>Has to add them all together instead of looking individually
Hahahahahahah, nigga what? Is a week one day in your bizarro country?

>>73538503
oh you're just ESL and was saying she performed better than any streams in the past week, I gotcha.
Yeah, that's true then. It'd be very concerning if she didn't. It's already concerning so few people even bothered to show up.

>>73538653
retard. she's keeping because it's free revenue

He cant keep getting away with it

>>73538653
and that's the thing, she can't.

>>73534236
I like how we say "funny how few CAD there are" when it's in line with the general population ratio. You're not wrong, it should be higher than that. Also top kek that one Aussie tossing in two dollaridoos

>>73538653
Riku said the VOD stays.

>>73538503

so you're really playing retarded and pretending this didn't happen right? >>73536296
>Oh no! The dramafags are realizing there is no drama and stopped watching! Surely she won't mog Doki's week in a single minut-AIEEEEEEEEEEE
Get fucking owned retard

>>73538503
Troll and bait these niggas

was none of you guys re-streaming it somewhere? I felt like watching but not giving it views, was it interesting?

>>73538992
she doubled down

>>73538653
Nah, she shouldn't

No one will ever forget anyway
And it might even start a Streisand effect (that would be extremely funny tho)

>>73537883
Is Doki's total revenue from since she returned?

Elira only has 35% superchats and a 2% merch.
Dooki has sponsors, a ton of paid conventions, ad revenue, 70% of superchats.

the ad revenue from YT live streams/vods, plus her shorts is a good chunk of change

>>73533980
>Nijisisters literally don't even remember superchat rainbows
>With "rainbow" literally in the name

>>73538931
>ESL sees Doki's week and reads it as Doki's week combined
SEAfags never bothered to read. It's still extremely sad Doki is struggling to keep up with a single Zatsus stream even with her streams all combined with a karaoke included. Fucking grim

>be arguing about VTuber earnings
>claim Doki made less in a week than Elira's casual stream
>someone checks the facts
>turns out I'm wrong
>get mad
>"why are you counting all the week's streams, one was even cancelled"
>mfw goalpost moving

>>73538503
You know what you’re right, we should be comparing Apples to Apples not to oranges. We should be comparing Elira’s return to Doki’s return.

Don't worry, Elira makes more money from merch and voice packs since management has graced her with more of those than for any other liver for some totally odd reason...

Seriously tho, why are so many of her superchats in USD? The western audience seem to have fucked off for everyone else, why did westoids stick with Elira?

>>73538653
She's already fucked YT algorithm wise. Deleting her most viewed video will make it even worse.

>>73539102
Yes it is, she wasn't monetized before she came back, she made ALL OF THAT since being fired, literally 30% of elira's LIFETIME superchats in under 2 months, If that isn't grim i don't know what is

whoever thinks that elira has moged doki is just retarded or bored to shit with eliras stream and looking to troll.

>>73537039
How is 3k not bad?

>>73539283
Yeah, we should. Let's have Elira start up a smear campaign against a big corporation and return to her PL after years for peak pity bucks. That'd be apples to apples. Sonny still mogs her

>>73539344
the fanbase is just that strong, you can still see around 2500 ccv since that's literally her daily number despite the gacha shit streams and stuff. I don't know about the other members, maybe they have lotta tourists but Elira's growth has been pretty normal

>73539158
>ESL sees Doki's week and reads it as Doki's week combined
??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????}?
You are either braindead or a troll, if you are a troll well played

>>73539070
would be funny as fuck if true
>>73539344
vpns maybe?

>>73539344
Seems a lot of people believed that gun to her head rrat, even the artist that made the black companies only art deleted it the next day.

>>73539158
So there are two options
>you're ESL or so poorly educated that you weren't able to properly say "mugged every one of Doki's streams this week"
>you did mean the entire week and having been proven wrong you're desperately trying to find a win
Either way, not a good look, sis.

>>73538232
What a weird isolated thing to be mad about considering all the numberfag repost threads (99% anti-niji as you'd expect from the hlg spinoff) that constantly fill the catalog.
>All those people gloating about his income vs Holos
Deserved because numberfags suddenly pretended to not care about superchats anymore after Rushia's demise and the faggot's rise. Now that the faggot is dead too holofags have suddenly started to talk about superchats again. Weird how that works.

>>73539566
That many question marks? You must be 18+ to talk in this board, kid

>>73539617
it was purely due to pressure, he still didn't delete the Vox sucks his own dick image I reckon

>>73539344
>>73539516
That's the power of high-end GFE. Her unicorns would rather kill themselves than abandon her.

Clearly bored with the 8 finana shitstream

>>73539513
>SMEAR CAMPAIGN
Doki only said she wanted to move on and she did, Fuck off timelooping faggot, She didn't start any drama, Niji did with the 3 page termination notice, If they just wrote a short "she's fired and gone" message, NOBODY would have cared, THEY started the drama, THEY caused all of this to happen, Fuck you

>>73539516
if 8 Finana is her normal CCV, then it's a catastrophe for a stream like this.

Can we get much LOWER
SO LOW

>>73539698
I guess I am one of them, I still can't put myself to blam somehow, Elira really is a evil woman

>>73539663
And this is an english speaking board pagpag, Maybe consider that before making the most retarded statement i've ever seen in my life
>I didn't mean elira mogged doki's WHOLE week, I just meant she mogged doki's week, Those are totally different and you are ESL for not knowing that week doesn't mean week

>>73539712
>Same ol "Doki dindu nuffin" narrative
DOKISEETHE

>>73539516
>>73539698
The mikeneko of the west, kneel.

>>73539102
kinda. If I remember right it was either gone or very, very small before.
Don't remember when exactly this was taken, but it was either right before or right after she started randomly unprivating vods to give the goons something new to watch.

The joy I feel watching nijifags desperately scramble to find some kind of victory in this embarrassing display brings me great joy. It's been a good night.

>>73539853
>Reads Doki's week
>Takes it as Doki's week COMBINED
Your generation is factually losing the ability of reading comprehension. You lose

>>73539861
It's not a "narrative" when it's the objective fucking truth and nothing you retarded inbred nijifaggots can do will change the entire internet's opinion, EVERYONE that isn't a blithering braindead bitch like you and the other sisters accepts the facts of the matter, Nijisanji did EVERYTHING themselves, They started the fire, They said everything, Doki only ever responded to THEIR smear campaign, You fucking invalid

>>73539344
Lazusydia were the only waves that had some legit success in the West prior to Luxiem making the whole branch pivot over to the East. So probably their remaining people are literally OG nijiEN fans who now very ironically look out of place in the modern demography of the branch.

They stick out extra hard now because Pomu is gone, Finana's reputation was shot years ago and she has almost no fans, Selen's gone, Petra is basically a JP now, and Da Wose notably is one of the only girls left that is actually widely liked on /vt/ still. Those fans are literally vestigial now, from the old times years ago.

>>73540020
Saying she mogged doki's week automatically means you are saying she mogged the entire week, Stop butchering english to suit your braindead fucktarded cope you smoothbrained retard

>>73539698
>Her unicorns
at least learn what words mean
she is a male collaber she has no unicorns

>>73539344
You clearly do not watch her and just know about NijiEN through /vt/ memes and rrats.
Elira's always been in the top three in terms of earning and CCV. Prior to the black screen stream, her only real yab was saying her viewers aren't her friends because she read a superchat that said the guy wanted to touch her neck or some shit and she complained that for a while she had been feeling like some fans see her (as in her avatar lmao) as a piece of meat of whatever western women like saying.
Why does Mikeneko still have fans? Or that crazy girl from idolEN that will redebut?
You can't fix mental illness, and it just so happens a lot of Elira's cucks are American.

>>73539861
Lol, keep trying to push your narrative, only you sisters believe it. To be honest I'm not entirely sure all of you do.

I think this is the only person in NijiEN who I've ever seen have a higher USD rate than yen/NT.
I guess she still does have some fans after that shitty stream.

>>73540020
As I said above, either you're ESL or poorly educated.

>>73532345
I think the "family" or unity gimmick they went with only worked because there were 6 members that all had decent chemistry with each other, which was a bit of a far cry from early Myth collabs. The cracks were starting to show with Ethyria though, and after the first "I LOVE MY NIJIEN FAMILY" public showcase it was clear that most of it was likely forced.

>>73539913
How I see Nijisisters

>>73540131
>I could beat those guys in a fight
>SO YOU COULD BEAT THEM ALL AT ONCE???????
>No, I meant one at a ti-
>STFU YOU MEANT THEM ALL COMBINED

Like I said, 12 years shouldn't be here

A tale of two return streams

>>73539115
You fail to take into account that Doki has her own merch too which she takes no cuts

The difference between Elira and Dooki in superchat earnings is that Doki earns for herself (both superchats and adsense from ccv) and elira only earns for the yacht an she gets a 35% of tips.

So please, please donate to elira, she needs it for food and acne medication, dooki doesn't need superchats, with members, adsense, sponsors and PAID cons she is well off.

>>73540789
>Holofag deflection away from Doki???
Uh oh, it looks like dramafags are Holofags

>>73540775
>No, I meant one at a ti-
Literally nothing you fucking said implied that you shiteating mouthbreathing mongoloid
Saying "I can take these guys" DOES MEAN all at once, That is basic fucking english, You stupid pagpag monkey

>>73540775
>12 years shouldn't be here
Ah, so that explains it.

>>73538653
That video si monetized, she don't delete that.

>>73540908
>Desperate to compare a corpo vtuber to an indie
>Gets defensive and mad when 2 corpos are compared to eachother
NIJISEETHE

>>73540367
Rosemi's like that.
Scarle's like that.
Pomu and Selen were like that.

Again, Elira's had one big fuck up that her most deluded cucks try not to think about, and a another minor one people are liable to forget.
You also downplay her pull with western weebs, the type to have waifus rather than oshis, because as far I know there really aren't very many EN corpo vtubers that genuinely like JRPGs. I think Kiara is the only other one.
They're like an oasis in the desert for them.

>>73540367
It's a return stream after drama.
Same shit happened to Kronii where she got flooded with SC and then they got bored and left after a couple weeks.

>>73540910
>Basic fucking english is my own retarded assumption

Hit the books, kid.

>>73540908
doki managed to convince 120k people to stick around and watch her rant about her least favorite warrior cats character for 2 hours (Fuck crowfeather)
I think she won, even if that vod isn't monetized.

>>73541203
You've already shown that you're ESL >>73540931
You don't need to pretend anymore. To be fair your English is better than most sisters, just not quite there yet.

The sisters don't get that superchats are only important to niji livers c'os that sad 35% is their only income.

For the rest of streamers, superchats/donations/bits are only an extra, that is why they are called TIPS.

real famelira don't exist anymore

>>73541384
lmao 150 for that cheap chinese generic trash
couldn't be me

>>73541203
requiring book english is proof that you're esl and didn't learn it naturally.
Sorry about that. actual english speakers know what they can and can't omit in order for their general message to get across.

>>73541111
I wonder if the current situation radicalized her audience a bit. They supported her before, but now they REALLY support her. The type of support GFE vtubers dream about.

>>73541384
man I have all of those merchs and it's like...at least 500$+?

>>73533478
Lmao why do Asian countries (and Argentina) use Zimbabwe-tier currencies?

>>73541859
When you want to get rid of something quick, you cut your losses.

>>73540789
But FWMC wasn't a return stream. They streamed like 3 days ago.

>>73541831
Probably. I don't think she does GFE, but the support is like that because she was very popular. Thank fuck this is just imaginary, but how do you think the situation would have played out if Pomu hosted that stream instead of Elira? Of course Pomudachi would convince themselves she's still good, or that she was forced to do that against her will or whatever.
/here/ they've just been bunkering down in /lazu/ and not posting much, and Elira simps have not rested on Twitter.
I'm not amazed or anything, nor do I think this is a win of any sort, but yeah I'm not surprised most of her fans are American and that they'd huddle around her like this when again, she's one of NijiEN's most popular girls.

>>73542234
This is their return to regular streaming, They even posted a schedule, A full week of streaming, 9 total streams including a membership stream and a rock and rawr party, They are officially BACK back, And not streaming sporadically anymore
(RIP to all the bait threads calling them lazy and saying they abandoned the EN audience when their schedule is literally exactly the same timezones and all english streams kekw)

>>73542234
Anon, you weren't supposed to notice that.

>>73542035
retarded people voting for retarded politicians that think that everything can be fixed by printing money, usually the ones that blame other countries for their shitty state they stole too much money and people are catching up with their shit

>>73542451
That was them arriving in japan, This is them finally getting a house and returning to fulltime streaming

>>73542708
It was still the longest gap they've ever had between two streams.

>>73538128
>single regular zatsu
It's her return stream after earning nothing for 2 months, how is that regular?

>>73542905
It is still a return to their proper streaming schedule and their regular shows like fuwamoco morning >>73542734

>>73543588
Life is good for the ruffians.

>>73533478
>10 flip donators
The /tubero/ killers. The ones who seethed at the lack of homo and niji support in /tubero/ and shat all over that general.

>>73537343
>pointing out obviously real numbers is numberfagging
>making shit up and doubling down on it, with constant goalpost shifting, is not
kys

>>73537587
Valid, keep on laughing. t. boomer

man poor pingu... her fucking 3d live was mogged by queen bitch of the clique and let's not even talk about da wose cause that would be pitiful

>>73538128
>mogged doki's week
>n-no! You can't just add the week's numbers together!
(You) cannot possibly be retarded enough to think a goalpost shift this blatant wouldn't be noticed. Literally Gura could eat pagpag nonstop for a year and still have more brain cells left than that.

>>73545269
man the sisters really mustered their entire force to get behind elira's return stream huh.. It's funny how her total supas is higher than her peak xxv tho. I wonder if she'll maintain supas like that in future or if they spent all they had on a one time deal just like shitty brickso's sketchy birthday

>>73539158
>when called out, he triples down
>tries to insist that other people are the ESLs, despite obviously being a retard with no comprehension of how English is ordinarily used
kys

>>73534364
Always knew that Doki was just a numberfag.

Guess that's your way to cope with the fact that you couldn't drive her to Graduation.

>"I don't really have anything to talk about"
Precious, precious

>73539663
>trolling this blatantly
jannies have no excuse for leaving this up, it's not sea hours yet

>>73539861

>73540020
This is literally more embarrassing and cringe than the "8 days a week" bb.com thread from the Internet stone age

>>73545657
What are you even talking about? lmao

>>73546214
Be kind to golum there he has psychosis and has no idea what he is talking about

Jesus god I came to this topic to laugh at the woman jutsu dodging of the nijisis and I was not disappointed.
The goalpost moving every time they got punched in the face is so pathetic it is a free circus, not worth paying for a real one lime the AR will be after this.
I would feel ashamed to exist if I was them, but I guess they got used to it so they live permanently /here/ now when “mysteriously at after school hours” despite being all adults.

Interesting that despite days of hyping-up "the queen's great return stream" the sisters are all just saying "it was just a zatsu, lol"
It'd be sad if it wasn't so funny watching them try to cope.

If ya wanna talk about mogging, Dokibird was monetized for just over 2 months and has earned 95k in superchats.. How much did elira earn in superchats the past 2 months?.... 3.7k
Actually doki has earned more than ANY individual nijiEN member has in the past 2 months, Not to mention the 250k she raised for charity... which BTFOs the entire branch's income combined

>>73546653
That doesn't even include the like 40k she made from twitch bits and gifted subs and her streamlabs, OR her fully sold out merch drops (of which she keeps all of it minus manufacturing and shipping costs) vs the 2% niji organs get... anyone saying doki is being "mogged" by niji is just straight up retarded

>>73534364
theyre not wrong but theyre also very wrong in this situation.
it is nice to have a smaller community but this only really works if the community was built or filtered naturally over time, not during a mass filtering like being seen as the main villain of the story.
all you have left after such an event is yesmen, retards who stay around because theyre contrarians, have sunken cost or just dumb enough not to pick up on the warning signs.
any example is people still follow mikeneko despite everything and those morons are not mentally well enough to maintain a healthy community despite how small it is now, especially when mike is also not mentally well enough either.
eliras situation isnt as bad as mikes but a lot of the remaining fans arent there just for elira like they are for mike, they are there for their oshi's friend elira.
>>73546491
lets be real though, its more likely dramafags pretending more often then actual ones, not that there arent actual retarded nijisisters who believe this shit, the fucking doxx site proves that.

>>73527916
>>73528040
LMAO, I didn't even notice she streamed again because the board remained the same. Barely new threads about her that I'm looking at it extensively.

>>73528812
Dramatubers won, Niji dying.

>>73534558
hold on, doesn't this incentive internally that everything Elira has done is correct and good? Oh holy shit, this is going to turn ugly in the future LOL. They are going to feel justified in their actions based on the short term NDF retard money ahahahaha you are ALL JAILRD

>>73532242
I don't, easier to be a fleshtuber than to wrestle the shark head-on IN THE OCEAN (vtuber sphere).
What's worse, I'm going to lose and she is going to beat me WITHOUT STREAMING.
How the fuck do you even beat someone that mogs 95% of the industry by just existing?

>>73547968
I doubt the higher ups give any sort of a fuck about the EN girls in terms of money. Sonny brisko's birthday made 24k, luca's made 9k, Vox's will probably bring in something between those two values, But none of it can help them reach the amount of money they need to reach Q4 goals

>>73537828
After they dropped the black stream when Doki tried to stream Neopets as her first gaming stream post-termination it kinda gave some dragoon's a bit of PTSD. I can't even say I blame those dragoons for it considering what made them paranoid about such a thing in the first place. Though I hope the paranoia those drsgoons have remains unfounded and Niji keeps FAR away from trying anything similar again.

>>73529833
...What? What would Holofans even be seething about? Seriously I can't tell if you meant this or if you're just baiting (You's)

>>73548142
oh you /#/fags have more numbers, the female livers are so dead lol. All hail NijiHomos and the China investment