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https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1778302636665774201
>https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1778302636665774201
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1778302636665774201
>https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1778302636665774201
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1778302636665774201

OFFICIAL HOLOLIVE CARD GAME

>> No.73427808

ok. OCG when?

>> No.73427911

>>73427772
Weiss schwarz fuming rn.

>> No.73427921

I thought they already had one with Weiß Schwarz

>> No.73427938
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73427938

>>73427772
>TCG

>> No.73427951

>>73427911
it's being made by the same company that created Weiss Schwarz anon.

>> No.73427965

>>73427772
I summon blue eyes white mococo in attack position and end my turn.

>> No.73427980

>>73427772
Will it include the boys?

>> No.73428001

>>73427980
If it does, no one will buy it

>> No.73428005

>>73427772
>not april 1st
what
This is REAL?

>> No.73428050

>>73428001
But what about the gender equality?

>> No.73428086

>>73428050
They have Towa representing the males/hermaphrodites

>> No.73428091

>>73428050
Fine... Every second card is Towa

>> No.73428095

>>73428050
Holostars+Reggies gets its own deck probably

>> No.73428097

>>73427772
I never understood why people would pay so much for cardboard slips. Even in elementary school I knew pokemon cards were a scam.

>> No.73428107

>>73428050
You have magic the gathering for that pronoun shit.

>> No.73428116

>>73427980
Probably, but as separate sets. The last time the cards were released together, they made the boys super common and the girls rare lol. It did not go down well with the nips and they had to change it to be separate.

>> No.73428120

>>73428097
monkey brain likes pretty things.
card slips are really, REALLY easy to produce in bulk, especially if you gacha them out.

>> No.73428149

>>73428050
How about you provide the boys first sister?

>> No.73428150

>>73428116
>It did not go down well with the nips
Smh. Still living in the last century.

>> No.73428166

>>73428097
You are so smart anon *pat pat*

>> No.73428222

>>73428116
>made the boys super common and the girls rare
Why would they do that?

>> No.73428234

>>73428166
*plap plap

>> No.73428250

>>73428097
Same reason people pay for gacha. It preys on addicts.
And to be fair pokemons rarity tiers aren't beyond fucking retarded and predatory unlike other tcgs.

>> No.73428753

>>73428097
Some of them are fun if you play with a group of friends and everyone puts in about the same amount of money and just plays with what they pull or can trade for. As soon as someone starts whaling its all over though. That's why drafts are fun because everyone just chips in $15 or something.
MtG was never designed for you to collect all the cards or even know what all the cards are.

>> No.73428844

>>73427772
What game mechanics do you think this will have, im assuming huge over inflated numbers in the thousands for no reason.

>> No.73428879

>>73428222
So people gacha for girls

>> No.73428949

>>73427911
Anon this whole thing is basically from the owner of weiss schwarz and it's intended to get more people into weiss expecially once it dies in a year or two.

>> No.73429062

>>73428050
There is no such thing as gender equality.

>> No.73429094

>>73428949
>The owner of weiss schwarz
You mean Bandai? They're currently publishing at least 50 card games, they're not all weiss schwarz anon.

>> No.73429103

>>73429062
based

>> No.73429168

I play Investigation! which let's me draw two cards, I then play Chiku Taku to bring two action cards back from my discard pile, getting Investigation! and Remix. I then play Remix to bring back one song card from my discard pile. You see where this is going huh? I draw my entire deck and play Shiny Smiley Story, Kirameki Rider, Our Brigt Parade, Connect the World, and Capture the Moment, powering up my Gawr Gura to well beyond your remaining Star Points. I then attach the Hologra Portal card to my Gawr Gura, making her unblockable and attack for victory. Next fes?

>> No.73429257

>>73427772
Just another merch, don't tell me that these cards have any other purpose than just for collection, we already have too many unplayable and dead TCGs.

>> No.73429262

>>73429094
Bushiroad is not Bandai
>They're currently publishing at least 50 card games
50? More like 5. If you're talking about Bandai then it might be 50 if you count all the dead ones but that wouldn't count towards "currently publishing".

>> No.73429936

>>73429168
I play a Watamelon.

>> No.73430547

>>73427772
i am playing mococo in face down sex mode and end my virginity

>> No.73430637

>>73428097
Card games are fun and unless you go to tourneys nobody cares if you print one out yourself. I printed a full deck of cards when I was 13 for like... 15 bucks?

>> No.73430642

>>73430547
Sorry, but I have Fuwawa on the field and she prevents Mococo from having sex with anyone else

>> No.73430863
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73430863

>>73428097
Socially acceptable form of gambling that psychologically makes you feel as even if you lost, it wasn't a waste because you still physically own a product.

Slot machines you could potentially win decent money, but when you lose you get nothing.
Cards you could potentially win decent money/cool looking card, but when you lose there is still a physical element that lessens the blow because you still own the cards

>> No.73430874

>>73427921
schwarz is mid

>> No.73430946

do people actually play card games other than magic and yugioh?
there's like 1000 of them but i never hear of anyone playing the others, including pokemon

>> No.73430955

>>73430863
>makes you feel as even if you lost, it wasn't a waste because you still physically own a product.
Nobody buying boosters actually feels that way about their mountains of trash cards that have no value.

>> No.73431094

>>73430955
They do, just subconsciously
Gambling and leaving with nothing is always worse than gambling and leaving with something even if it's just cardboard.
The only people who actually feels the way you describe are card scalpers and people who make the market worse for the average person.

>> No.73431811

>>73430946
I unironically play Weiss. This is just to stop a brother from playing a 2-man card game alone back in college. Currently on hiatus because Gura meta is just too tiresome.

>> No.73432285
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73432285

>>73427980
>Hololive card game
>Hololive is the female branch
>Holostars is the male branch
>Holostars is not Hololive
>This is not a Holostars card game,this is a Hololive card game.

There you go, glad I could help.

>> No.73432307

>>73432285
rip regloss

>> No.73432358

>>73432307
RIP EN and ID as well

>> No.73432519

>>73432307
>>73432358
HoloJP, DEV_IS, HoloEN and HoloID are all under hololive (which is, in turn, under Hololive Productions). The official name for HoloJP is also just "hololive", but they're not referring to that.

>> No.73432551
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73432551

>>73432285
The trailer had the Hololive Productions logo, though.

>> No.73432597

>>73432519
>but they're not referring to that.
You don't really know that for sure. In any case the sets will probably be gen based.

>> No.73432644

>>73432551
Yes, and Hololive and Holostars are different branches of Hololive productions.

This is a card game for the Hololive branch.

>> No.73432696

>>73432285
Ririka card never.
not very geniassu

>> No.73432724

>>73427980
Probably as a separate themed deck/booster pack.

>> No.73432732

>>73432644
But, so what? Unless they make something like a Hearthstone app I don't see many people holding tournaments overseas.

>> No.73432751

>>73432732
Didn't mean to quote.

>> No.73432906

>>73432696
>>73432551
Looks like Dev_is is considered part of hololive, so Ririka cards could be on the menu yet.

>> No.73434094

They're just trying to cash out on the people scalping all the WS cards. I expect crazy shit like multiple signed cards per girl, serial numbers on cards, etc.

>> No.73434230

All I want to know is:
Is the game fun?
Can I make a deck solely focused on my oshi?

>> No.73434329

>>73427772
Feel like I already know but I will ask anyways, any chance of Mel making an appearance?

>> No.73434640
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73434640

I use my lv 3 Fauna tuner with my lv 7 Kiara to syncro summon my boss monster

>> No.73434834
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73434834

>>73434640
Not so fast, you activated my trap card, so I blow up the moon, sacrifice your monsters and summon Kaichou the forbidden one in twerk mode, and reduce your yagoo points to 0!

I want to see a hololive anime ripping off yu gi oh and see what sort of bullshit card summoning ass pulls they can think up.

>> No.73434918

>>73432285
yea but ever since they went public cover has been doing some stupid ass shit

>> No.73434992

>>73434918
>Public
Show me where I, as an average buyer, can buy their stocks.

>> No.73435084
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73435084

>>73434834
I don’t think they would go for the ygo route, having a mana reliant game would probably be to easier to make. Also, fuck your trap, red reboot.

>> No.73435188

>>73435084
>>73434834
They're still absolutely going to make it into a hologra.

>> No.73435229

>>73435084
>red reboot
Kaichou can't be unsummoned, but shes now just standing there twerking menacingly... fuck.

Mana based as in magic like? that'd be interesting.

>> No.73435343

>>73432285
Cover literally says the Hololive card game will include talents from Hololive Production. They might not combine them in the same sets but Holostars will be included.

>> No.73435397

>>73435343
...Man, won't this cause problems when some girls are clearly stronger and overlap/power creep the others?
It's the same reason I thought they'd never consider a gacha game for the girls.

>> No.73435524

>>73435343
They meant the Hololive talents from Hololive production.

So Holostars aren't included in this set currently.

No matter how much it wishes, Hololive productions isn't synonymous with both Hololive and Holostars quite yet, its one or the other.

>> No.73435611
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73435611

I’m pretty sure the card game is gonna be something like a deck building type game or a board game with cards. I really doubt it would be a competitive trading card type of game,

>> No.73435691

>>73434329
Probably never since termination, not graduation.

And ofc, people already reeing against Holostars. SAD!

>> No.73435696

>>73435611
Arent they just collectable cards with your Oshi on them? I wonder if they did actually make rules and a win condition.

>> No.73435806

>>73435696
I mean if they call it a card “game” I would have to assume it’s something you can actually play with and not just collect. Making rules and how to win isn’t hard, literally just copy another the rules of another thing.

>> No.73435890

>>73435691
>Probably never since termination, not graduation.
Ya...was hoping maybe it was one of those things where they have already been going through production so it'd be a pain to remove her but if they were able to remove her from HoloFes content in March then its probably guaranteed she will be removed from this releasing months later.
Ah well, I can save money and use it towards NotMel.

>> No.73435939

>>73435611
when is the hololive version of monopoly coming yagoo?

>> No.73435954

>>73435890
I mean they removed her from those Nendoroid things and she was probably quite far in production on that (I assume all of them are basically done and all pretense that they aren't is just because they want to do staggered releases and prioritize the popular members).

>> No.73436843

>>73435611
It's by Bushiroad so it will be a competitive TCG since that's all they make. It will also die within the first 4 years.

>> No.73437872

>>73428050
Did you buy holostars merch? If no then no funds for the cards. Simple

>> No.73437980

>>73428116
I congratulate them for self sabotage, there's a reason why even phase don't have male vtubers

>> No.73438069

Aggressively rubbing the card of my oshi and the card of her ship one against the other

>> No.73438152

>>73436843
Although I want to say that it'll have a forecast-able death, Bushi has likely seen how inclusion of Hololive in its products has been a big boost of not only sales, but exposure across several of its games. If the mechanics are decent enough, I'll err on the side of cautious optimism, but this card game already has a lot fighting against it in terms of staying power.

>> No.73438286

>>73435397
Cover would compromise, make the boys broken as fuck so meta zombies will have to buy em in droves and then Yagoo would brag about holostars selling more cards than the girls. Win-win

>> No.73438395

I hope it's better than weiss schwarz.
>>73435611
It explicitly calls it a trading card game in the Twitter post.

>> No.73438453

>>73438152
Inclusion of holo is an entirely different thing from having a hololive-only game that has no appeal to anyone that doesn't like hololive.
It's an extremely niche product that simply cannot succeed. It will still be profitable because hololive fans will go crazy for the limited cards and printing cardboard is cheap, but nobody will be playing the game.

>> No.73438552

>>73438286
There would be a shitstorm over the boys being stronger than the girls.

>> No.73438670

They should go board game. Get CMON to make a hololive miniature game. Make a killing with an expansion pack for every gen.

>> No.73438724

>>73438453
I think you underestimate how popular Hololive is. There are definitely enough fans to keep it afloat in Japan at least.

>> No.73438785

>>73438453
I could see people willing to give it a shot if they hold small shop tournies and stuff and them holding a big tourney at the expo as an event. Ultimately at least for me I want to see how the cards actually look like (new art being used is exciting) and im hoping they add signatures and stuff for the higher rarities

>> No.73438986

>>73427772
NIJISISTERS, WHERE IS YOUR OFFICIAL CARD GAME?

>> No.73439060

This thought just came up but gameplay wise i could see a wincon being like getting the most fans or getting a live. (As the press release mentioned it using daily holomem activities). And the resource mechanic if they do that maybe fans or super chats. I just want to see how the game is played before dooming lol

>> No.73439184

>I tap A-chan for 3 Work rate, and play Costume Reveal Stream, that's +3,000 Subscribers
>>I play Peko Overlap, nullifying your Stream
>... I scoop.

>> No.73439223

>>73438724
You overestimate how popular hololive is.
Massively popular anime and videogame franchises try to do this shit all the time and never succeed.

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73439287

>>73439184
>I play Gawr Gura, who enters in the tapped position
>Okay she can't do shit even with the big numbers so-
>I also play surprise monthly merch promotion, enabling her to attack
>...You got it

>> No.73439305

>>73438453
They should learn from holocure, having the appeal to non holo fans with no knowledge while having references only fans would know.

>> No.73439342

>>73439060
One of the things that I don't like about Weiss Schwarz is that the flavor sucks. There's barely anything mechanically to make you feel like you're actually playing with the characters. Implementing some mechanics like that could be a good start.

>> No.73439375

>>73439223
I have a feeling it would just be used for collection unless it becomes a big hit for outside audience on release.

>> No.73439403

>>73438453
It also depends on how they approach the marketing. If they lean towards the chunni stuff of their girls and crank out some banging cool art, that would get some people to give it a look over. If the mechanics are solid, that is also a great draw for people both familiar and unfamiliar with the franchise.
KING STRAT is to release a digital client first to test the waters and offer a low investment buy in for literally anyone to try. But since it's bushiroad and they are fucking allergic to online clients, that's a never ever.

>> No.73439413

>>73439305
Holocure is popular because it's free. If it had a cost it would not be appealing to non-hololive fans.

>> No.73439469

>>73439223
My attachment to an anime ends at merch, I’m not gonna play a fucking card game based around something like Naruto or Demon Slayer. Vtubers have that extra layer where their fans feel personal attachment to the streamers so they’re more likely to at least collect the cards.

>> No.73439499

>>73439403
>KING STRAT is to release a digital client first to test the waters
There will be nothing digital because this is made by Bushiroad.

>> No.73439531
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73439531

>Be me, a Hololive fan who wants to play the Official Hololive Card Game (With My Friends!)
>Try to buy a starter deck
>It's sold out and being flipped for ten times its retail price for the next 100 years

>> No.73439548

>>73439342
Some of the holo decks have synergy specifically with their gens or other characters. Like StartEnd has a set of 3 cards that give you a big dick Aqua and Suisei on the field with Towa as their assist. Gen5 is pretty much meant to be played together, and Vol2 gave us some good Noel Flare synergy. I know what you mean where things like CXCs don't really feel specific to any of the chuubas, barring like Coco since hers is pretty brutal and has been called Dragon's breath.

>> No.73439584

>>73439469
>they’re more likely to at least collect the cards.
Good thing I haven't been talking about that but the game itself.

>> No.73439654

>>73439223
Yeah, but sometimes they do succeed. And Hololive has a fanbase that will buy things just for the sake of buying them.

>> No.73439672

>>73427980
Can't wait for the rare doritochin man

>> No.73439739

>>73439531
>The 1st edition ultimate legendary rare Suisei card costs $1000 on TCGplayer
Also it’s a staple card on every deck so you need multiple copies.

>> No.73439748

>>73427772
Wonder how broken council/promise would be. Unless they don't go for the lore route and go for the idol stuff instead

>> No.73439815

>>73439654
Hololive is several times smaller than Granblue Fantasy was at the peak of it's popularity and that shit's TCG died a pathetic death despite having a fanbase that will also buy things for the sake of buying them.

>> No.73439831

>>73439548
Yeah, I noticed some of the characters have synergy with each other. I was kind of amused that one of Coco's cards let's you create the Holohouse. But that's pretty much where most of the flavor is, as far as I can tell.
>>73439584
If people are collecting the cards, all they have to do is make the game fun and people will play it.

>> No.73439869

>>73439223
What's important at the end of the day is a dedicated fanbase(with some growth) to sustain itself.

>> No.73439926

>>73439815
>Hololive is several times smaller than Granblue Fantasy was at the peak
On what basis do you say that?

>> No.73439953

>>73439831
>If people are collecting the cards, all they have to do is make the game fun and people will play it.
That's not how it works. TCG are kind of like fighting games where the game has an inherent barrier of entry that can't be removed and most people do not want to get over it.

>> No.73440039

>>73439926
Past trends. Granblue was so popular that Cygames would put Granblue in-game bonuses to other products to make sure they're financially viable.
I can tell that you're brand new to anything Japanese.

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73440119

>>73439739
>Suisei chase card
>only 1k
pshhhh try 2k, and if it's a staple it'll go up even more. The suisei tax is fucking real on anything with her face on it.
>>73439831
It's unfortunately a product of the weiss design model. A new IP getting a set is basically a reskin of established mechanics and cards with slight power boosts, numbers, and efficiency to keep up with the times. They also aren't going to spend a lot of time designing unique abilities and synergies just for one set, since it's a very low effort but high yield design process. I play weiss casually and while I think I'm pretty decent, my favorite pet deck is a Mel/Aki focused deck, the game at a competitive level has a few glaring flaws due to standby just existing.

>> No.73440123

>>73439953
I know how it works, I've played both types of games. And yet both TCG and fighting games are popular enough to exist. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Obviously the Hololive fanbase is full of ubernerds who are willing to play these types of games.

>> No.73440239

>>73440123
>Obviously the Hololive fanbase is full of ubernerds who are willing to play these types of games.
Then why is Idol Showdown fucking dead? Just like that you've proven that the TCG will be dead just like the fighting game.

>> No.73440358

>>73440239
>Then why is Idol Showdown fucking dead?
no gawr gura

>> No.73440361

>>73440123
Wanting and willing to play the game is one thing, having an outlet to support it is a completely different hurdle. The problem a lot of card games face is that they can't get shops to invest their time and energy to support them enough to get them off the ground and have a stable playerbase. There are so many fucking factors that have to line up and an establishment will not really give a fuck when things like Magic, YGO, and whatever their token weeb game might be that already has a working population (This could be MHA, SVE, One piece, etc). A company needs to not only give shops incentive to promote their game, but reasonable deals on product for them to take a risk on selling, and since this is a bushiroad product, they will NOT be that accommodating since they the western market is pretty much a battered stepchild to them. They love to collect the handouts, but they aren't keen on making the lives of that consumer base better.

>> No.73440362

>Summon Kureiji Ollie.
>When summoned allows you to special summon a homostar token onto the enemy field up to the amount of enemy hololive talents on the enemy field
>Special Effect: For each homostar token in play, reduce max CCV of all enemy hololive talents by 50%
Response?

>> No.73440392

>>73440362
Unironically strong.

>> No.73440397

>>73440358
Yerah I'm sure le baby shark will bring a billion players to a fighting game.

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73440454

>>73440362
>Play Suisei: BebidibabdiBoWa
>Negate all enemy effects that would cause yabs
>For every card on your opponents field that reduces max CCV, increase your own power by 10k

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73440486

this is deliberately designed to imitate the pokemon TCG and it's genius in its appeal to the boomers in the audience with a lot of disposable income

>> No.73440495

>>73440039
Anon, I've been to Japan. I've seen how popular Hololive is. You're for sure underestimating their popularity.

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>>73440362

>> No.73440526

>>73440486
I'd rather just buy more pokemon cards

>> No.73440546

>>73440495
Yet you haven't seen how popular anything else is.

>> No.73440600

>>73440239
It's not doing great because the art kind of sucks. But it's not dead.

>> No.73440624
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>I normal summon Ninomae Ina'nis and her special ability lets me add a Takodachi from my deck to my hand.
>Next, since I control a face-up Ina on my field, I can special summon Takodachi straight from my hand.
>It lets me add another copy of Takochi from my deck to my hand, when it is summoned onto the field while I control a face-up Ina on the field.
>Now I synchro summon using my level 4 Ina with my level 3 tuner Takodachi
>Gathering fans will call upon a new idol! Become the path its light shines upon! Idol debut! Show yourself, Ninomae Ina'nis, The Priestess of the Ancient Ones!
>"Wah"
>Now I activate her special effect, once she enters the stage I can add an "Ancient Ritual" spell card from my hand.
>I activate "Ancient Ritual"! With its continuous effect, I can tribute any face-up takodachi from my field to add "The Ancient Ones" from my deck to my hand.
>Because I control a face-up Ina on my field, I can summon my second copy of Takodachi! I'm gonna tribute it to add "The Ancient Ones" from my deck. You know what's coming, Jack!
>M-masaka, arienai!
>I activate Ina's second ability. By paying 6000 life points, I can summon The Ancient Ones directly from my hand!
>AAIIIEEEEEE
>Come forth, The Ancient Ones! Show Jack the true meaning of fear and despair!
>4000 ATK. Violet starts playing
>The Ancient Ones is indestructible, it cannot be destroyed nor targeted by card effects. Meaning, your pesky Mori's ability can't affect it!
>And now I activate its special ability, I can banish all of your monsters with the downside that it cannot attack during the turn this effect is activated.
>Now The Ancient Ones, obliterate his field! Then I attack with my Ina for game!!
>AAAACK
>That's what you get for being a filthy meta sheep, Jack. I'm gonna leave now, I have a blowjob session with Akiza to attend. Bye bozo

>> No.73440630

>>73440600
>100 player peaks
>not dead
It's dead as fuck.

>> No.73440643

>>73427772
>merch garbage
isn't an online gacha card game, sadly

>> No.73440667

>>73440495
The life of this in the Japanese market is not really in question. Card games have such a better lease on life there so this will easily be pretty well cared for there.

>> No.73440725

>>73440624
Yusei would never call Jack a bozo.

>> No.73440736

>>73440546
What are you talking about?

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>>73440624
That’s 5 summons, here’s a pebble.

>> No.73440787

>>73440736
You talking about how popular hololive is and how nothing else is popular enough to maintain their own TCG.

>> No.73440863

>>73440787
>how nothing else is popular enough to maintain their own TCG.
Obviously there are other franchises that are popular enough to maintain their own TCGs though?

>> No.73440910

>>73440863
I just gave Granblue as an example of a franchise that was more popular than hololive and how their TCG failed. A hololive card game will have nobody playing it just like how there's nobody playing the hololive fighting game.

>> No.73440918

>>73428097
As someone who owns a ton of Revised Dual Lnds, I'm glad people pay money for cardbord.

>> No.73440923

>>73430946
>i never hear of anyone playing the others, including pokemon
I was at a mall in Florida last year and there was a Pokemon card game tournament of some sort going on there at the time.

>> No.73440987

>>73440667
Yeah, I mean I was only talking about the Japanese market from the beginning. Even Weiss Schwarz barely exists in the west. So clearly it has its work cut out for it.

>> No.73441011

>>73440910
And I'm saying that one specific example you're giving seems like a poor example to me.

>> No.73441061

>>73441011
How is it a poor example? Surely you can point out all the super popular non-original TCG in Japan since you've been there are totally aware of what fails and succeeds.

>> No.73441130

>>73430946
Pokemon is the second most popular TCG out there. There's a good reason why, when the regional streams for VGC are live, so are the TCG regionals.
Or why some cards have +$10k in market value.

>> No.73441178

If someone like Kiara gets a card worth like 3 bucks she's probably going to kill herself, specially if she sees Suisei or Peko getting cards worth hundreds of dollars...

>> No.73441234

>>73441178
The only solution here is to make the runts get overpowered cards. But that would mean holostars being meta too so idk

>> No.73441247

>>73430946
Pokemon is the kid's card game. You're not going to hear much about anyone playing it unless you talk to middle schoolers or younger.

>> No.73441321

>>73441178
She would have done that already due to the card values in Weiss. Her own cards are also not even played in most decks and the collector pricing of her SPs and SSPs are on the lower end compared to other talents even with the EN buff. I'm not sure of the quality of her cards in the newest ambassador set, but she's got 2 shiny exclusive foils in that set so her ego will be spared.

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>>73441061
Maybe not poor per se, not definitely over exaggerated. I don't really believe granblue was every "several times more popular" than Hololive is now. Anyway, here's a picture I took from outside of a card shop in Akiba.

>> No.73441418

>>73428050
fujos can have their own game. Don't girls spend more on male idols than boys spend on female idols?

>> No.73441462

>>73441337
>I don't really believe granblue was every "several times more popular" than Hololive is now.
Then we're just back to you not being new to anything Japanese. You going to Japan is a brand new thing too as evidenced by your photo here.

>> No.73441544

>>73440239
The game is fucking ugly and has homos in it.

>> No.73441574

>>73441544
More excuses. I thought hololive was supposed to have a massive fanbase that can make anything super popular?

>> No.73441681

>>73430946
The Pokemon TCG has an official league and has had an online client for over a decade. Back in February they even announced a new mobile TCG designed to be simpler to play.

>> No.73441687

>>73441574
Just because a fanbase is big doesn't mean it doesn't have standards retard. Otherwise the homos would have a million subs by now.

>> No.73441709

>>73441462
I still don't get why you think granblue was so much more popular? They included stuff with their other products to make it profitable? How is that any different than all the brands collabing with Hololive to make a profit?

>> No.73441787

>>73441709
>How is that any different than all the brands collabing with Hololive to make a profit?
When did I say it's any different? The main thing here is that you're implying that Granblue was actually not popular at all.

>> No.73441948

>>73431094
Yeah, it's the people who buy boxes to "make a profit", not the people who buy to play. It's the morons who waste money on stupid trend investments like NFT's who then cry because they made no returns.

>> No.73441957

>>73441787
>The main thing here is that you're implying that Granblue was actually not popular at all.
No? I'm not saying that at all. I know that granblue is popular. I'm just questioning whether it was ever "Several times more popular".

>> No.73442087

>>73441957
It was and you would know if you weren't new. A single peek at google trends confirms this but you will probably say that they're all wrong.

>> No.73442107

How fucking rare and stupidly expensive is Suisei going to be? Is this going to be another Charizard situation?

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>Yesterday there was a CHAZZ IT UP thread
>Today this happens

What did that anon know

>> No.73442440

>>73442087
Not that it matters, but there's a pretty good chance I was watching anime before you were born. I played shadowverse for a few years, so I'm not unfamiliar with cygames or granblue.
I'm not sure why you're being so defensive, if you have a point to make about google trends, go ahead and make it.

>> No.73442557

>>73442107
Suisei's chase card will be just as rare as everyone else's but her price will be inflated to shit regardless of card strength. I don't think I've ever seen a deck that uses her new Vol2 CXC in weiss, and that SSP is easily over 2k in value.
Marine's cards also have a similar price hike, but her power cards are more splashable and her CXC is still ridiculously strong.

>> No.73442612

>>73442557
Actual TCG player, how strong is my Ina?

>> No.73442639

>>73427772
Finally, MTG killer. End our misery.

>> No.73442715

if a member is terminated does that mean her cards get banned too

>> No.73442910

>>73442612
Her grade 0 is pretty much essential in the Gura deck, which is a strong deck in its own right, annoying so that it got kneecapped with a Choose 1 ruling in regards to Gura's CXC the grade 2 Ame, and 1 other card I think, where basically you had to choose 1 of the 3 to be allowed to be put in your deck, while the others are banned. The grade 0 Ina is good on its own, but the kicker is that she has a crit symbol, which is what makes the Myth EN deck really pound face. Her grade 1 is OK, it has accelerate which is a decent ability, but there are better grade 1s you could be playing. Overall, if you're a takodachi, you can easily include your Ina in your deck if you want and not feel like you're handicapping yourself.

>> No.73442939

>>73442440
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=JP&q=%2Fg%2F11b6g7srjm,%2Fg%2F11fwxmjcbk,%E3%83%9B%E3%83%AD%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%96,%E3%82%B0%E3%83%A9%E3%83%96%E3%83%AB&hl=en
Hololive is nowhere near as popular as you think it is.

>> No.73443473

>>73442107
If you're talking OG Charizard no it won't be that bad. Old cards are that expensive because they are extremely rare and hard to find in good quality

>> No.73443675

>>73442910
I dont know how the deck is currently but iirc koyori mentioned the holox deck is also pretty strong rn too.

>> No.73443715

>>73442939
Sure, you've made your point. But I do still have my doubts. If you were to go by this google trends graph alone, granblue is still several times more popular than Hololive. Yet I don't think that reflects the current reality of comiket numbers, collab deals, merch, etc.

>> No.73443832

>>73443715
Good thing I didn't say it's more popular than hololive right then, huh? But yeah you're right Hololive is actually more popular than Granblue ever was. Hololive TCG will be massively popular and everyone will play it just like how everyone is playing Idol Showdown.

>> No.73443860

>holotcg thread
> no exodia posting
Grim…

>> No.73443977

>>73443832
>Good thing I didn't say it's more popular than hololive right then, huh?
I'm so confused right now.

>> No.73444066

>>73443977
I never claimed that Granblue is more popular than hololive in the current year.

>> No.73444224

>>73444066
Oh okay, yes, but you seem to be missing my point. If we go by the google trends, it is in fact more popular than Hololive in the current year (probably because of people searching up granblue versus). So if you in fact do think that Hololive is currently more popular, doesn't that bring the whole trend into question?

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>>73434834
Who will be the tearlaments of Holo?

>> No.73444310

>>73444224
Relink was a big release with the normies and not because they give a shit about Granblue.

>> No.73444786

Ame - Time thief
Gura - Mermail Atalatean
Kiara - Fire King
Mori - Burning Abyss
Ina - Weather Painters
IRyS - Darklords
Mumei - Raidraptors
Kronii - Timelords
Fauna - Naturia
Bae - Chaos Sycnro
Shiori - Endymion
Nerissa - Lyrilusc
Biboo - Adamancipator
FuwaMoco - Unchained Live Twins

>> No.73444886

>>73444786
>Shiori - Endymion
>all the text in Endymion's effect was actually Shiori going on tangents all along
Deepest lore

>> No.73444994

>>73440362
Bery gud actually. I'll put a caveat here: it's effect is reduced if enemy has any of these cards: Calli, Kronii, Bae, Suisei, Towa, Mel, Aki, FBK, Festival, any ID except maybe Reine

Cards however like Lamy or especially Kanata, Rushia and Koyori suffer greater from this kinda attack.

>> No.73445731

>>73440362
I graduate.

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>>73444786
I change my mind about Ame, she could use a Visas deck just because the story is about the dude beating up alternate versions of himself, makes one of them a smol version, and at the end the story time loops back to the beginning.

>> No.73446936

They should made this Hololive TCG without mana systems. Let it go wild like YuGiOh.

>> No.73447337

>>73446936
I honestly think a TCG that was built from the beginning to allow turn 0 plays like yugioh would be great. Make it so every deck can do their own different turn 0 plays and you'll have the GOAT card game

>> No.73447631

>>73438552
That's just genetics.

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>>73443675
HoloX is pretty easy to build, and it's also a strong deck. It's actually one of my favorites that I decked out with so many foils, SPs, and the Koyori special merch sleeves. It has a lot of punching power and the back row assists you have are pretty choice and it just has so much consistency and value due to the La+ resonance. It's easily one of my favorite decks to play since I like all of HoloX a lot, and the next premium pack gives it a few more options which I'm looking forward to having.

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>>73444786

>> No.73448337

>>73427772
I don't think the Vtuber and TCG communities have much overlap, but I guess they'll probably still have value to fans as memorabilia.

>> No.73449809

There is a 0% chance I'd ever find another player for this, but I'm still at least interested.

>> No.73451744

>>73449809
The local communities near me would likely have players who want to at least try it casually, but as for shops, our main one will likely not support events for this.

>> No.73452633

>>73449809
You could always try it out in tabletop simulator.

>> No.73452741

>>73427772
Weiss Schwarz: Hololive Edition

>> No.73452843

>>73427911
Hololive is literally S tier in Weiss Schwarz, with Gura being the win condition, it's hilarious

>> No.73457276

>>73427772
Good news.

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>> No.73461526

Who will be the Seto Kaiba and Yugi Moto of this TCG universe?

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>> No.73461877

>>73427772
I can't wait to run a Gura tribal deck and have her not show up on my hand

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Fauna!

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>> No.73462376

>>73448283
I like it and I would kill for the girls to have a tourney with themed decks.

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