/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Just like any other scam, they shouldn't have fallen for it.

>>73385400
Am I supposed to know or care about who these people are?

>>73385400
>>73385400
No, vtubing is a inherently unethical and dishonest profession, but so is banking. That's life.

my oshi loves me

>>73385400
>pfp of the schizo character in jjk
He's right at home

Probably not, but there's nothing that can be done about it

>>73385400
>Is tricking lonely men ethical?
Better a chuuba does it than some extremist or terror group.
There will always be someone trying to groom lonely men.

>>73385400
I think it only starts to get unethical when girls start shilling their throne and shit like that. I know a low 3 view on twitch who has one whale that bought her an iphone, ps5, expensive purses, etc all on throne.

It's only unethical if she has a boyfriend. Otherwise it's fine

>>73385400
>She's taking advantage of a weak fragile man
His fault

>>73385479
fpbp

>>73385400
>200 followers
buy an ad for your irrelevant 0view next time, shitter.

>>73385502
No, the people are irrelevant. It's just an example for my discussion point

>>73385479
TRUE

>>73385400
No, that's why GFE is trash

But who are these people

>>73385400
Of course it's unethical.

>>73385725
Thoughts?

>>73385400
Tricking people is never ethical, but most behavior is not ethical. Multiple wrongs don't make any rights, but are you just splitting hairs?

>>73385400
No one gets "tricked" into anything. You chose to fall for a lie because it feels good. We all do.

>He's taking advantage of vulnerable people to buy him gift cards
Their bloody bastard fault, sar.

>>73387147
But what did the man do wrong here?

>>73387084
NTA but weird you set up a page for people to buy you stuff but react like it just exists... for what reason would it exist in normal circumstances?

Unicorns love being scammed they even let women who talk about their dates and hookups on stream fool them

I found a goddess mommy Dommy vtuber on fansly that plays into my femdom ntr fantasies and came loads to her last night.
So to answer op , nah

>>73387182
It's not something that will pop out from just a few tweets. I can barely see signs of what OP is talking about, I just assume that she is doing that, so I assume the man is doing things too. You say wrong, like it's rare, but it's common. Does X behavior meet whichever ethical test? Probably not. Should people live ethically at all times? Because most probably don't. It's as simple as any form of coercion or deception, or selfishness, and then you're not longer passing such tests.

>>73385400
The Simps fall for it. Its their fault for funding the whores. Case closed.

Its the reason why women/men can fool the desperate looking to belong and be loved. Once they get money and the money is all dried up the Gold Diggers look elsewhere.

Until people call out these behaviours. It will continue to persist in the streaming atmosphere. Content Creators are meant to be entertainment. Not JOI or GFE or BFE.

>>73387456
the fuck are you even on about?

>>73387533
All three of those panels made me vomit

>>73387533
you clearly don't know what JOI is

So this is a natural response of the Phaseputos when Lumi cucked them yesterday? kek
Callate and go back to /pol/ levas KWAB

>>73387673
If you go with Singer's ideas then buying her stuff on Throne or giving her money or anything is probably unethical. Since you should be using everything you have past covering your basic needs as an organism on providing for others like in the third world. If you go with something Kantian then it has to be behavior you can universalize to everyone and it's not self-defeating or leads to problems, and you can't treat people as a means. You can quickly violate them by singling someone out due to your own inclinations, or seeing someone as a way to stop being lonely. Most people fail these sorts of tests all the time if you actually apply them and don't just think which party do you prefer. That's why if you do it seriously you're just splitting hairs.

>>73385400
It is ethical, twitterfaggots already agreed about this a long time ago, you victim blame if it's a male.

>>73385400
Another example. And this one actually
fucking bought a 4chan ad too, so she knew exactly who she was targeting.

>>73385400
These men will happily buy those lies, in fact, they demand it. It wouldn't be a problem if they stayed in their lanes, but they have the audacity to ask other vtubers to do the same, if not they will end their careers, weak, pathetic men.

>>73387904
Hylo or Menace?

>>73388395
Maybe your oshi needs to learn a little thing called tard wrangling

>>73385400
IMO it's about as ethical as advocating for gambling, i.e. not very. Both are exploiting people's character flaws and weaknesses to trick them out of their money. Obviously said people are adults who can make their own choices and therefore still partially at fault, but there's an argument to be made about the culpability of businesses that advertise "HEY YOU POOR FUCK, DOWN ON YOUR LUCK? COME GET RICH QUICK AT CHUCK'S CASINO, WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?", or in this case "uwu I think about u all the time u inspire me so much thanks for ur support I love you *kiss* btw here's my throne"

>>73385400
sometimes she is the only thing keeping those men afloat so I would argue it's even good unless she actually thinks of them as thrash and laughs behind their backs like that shylily one

What SEA nonsense is this thread? Legitimately I'm unable to make heads or tails of what any of you are talking about?

>>73388311
zenya is fucking adorable so I'll let it slide

>>73387343
Name?

>>73387807
Jerk off instructions/Jill off Intructions

>>73389106
Well then there's nothing wrong with doing JOI as entertainment, no strings attached

>>73385400
Only if they have a partner or worse explicitly lie about being single

>>73385400
it's just a fantasy, just like idols and celebrities and actors it feels good to pretend, but it's always fantasy pretend, those who forget that can blame themselves.
>>73387151
this, so much this.

>>73385400
No, it's a service they're providing. It's only unethical if the chuuba in question has a boyfriend because it means the illusion WILL be shattered at some point before graduation.

>>73385400
Ethical? Probably not.

At the same time though there exists people who life just frankly has no prospects for. People who will be alone for the rest of their life regardless of effort put in. Some of us (myself included) are here because we want to be and because we don't get lonely and crave human attention. But most people don't have a fundamentally broken sense of needing to "belong to the tribe". To those people without scammers like the OP they will just eventually be building up their anger and resentment until they harm someone. So while it's not ethical persay it's probably the best solution for those individuals.

Who the fuck are any of these people
Buy an ad next time faggot

>>73385400
It's fucked up and future generations will learn a lot from it.

>>73389790
OP is schizo stalking someone /here/ and making catalog bait threads about every vtuber they like.

>>73389154
Yeah but as Paid for? No. It should be free.

>weak fragile man who's never experienced love.

AKA genetic dead ends

>>73389851
Thanks Pikame/IronMouse/Silvervale/Zenya/Rushia/Amouranth/Pokimane/Henya/Nyanners/Kson and other females pretending to be someone important and worthwhile investing into someone's life when in all honesty they are shallow whores that are gussied up for the media screen for lonely men that value connections with money not time.

>>73385400
Nani the fuck?

Look it's pretty simple stop trusting women and you win. Some days I think I'm mentally ill and then I see you dipshits selling your fucking car to donate 10,000 bucks to some fat whore with an anime face. Just stop being crazy like damn.

>>73387084
"Lol, lmao"
I saws someone with 10 viewers celebrating 3 years on youtube with a donothon, no clue what goes through people's heads

>>73388084
Did you unironically bring up Kant in a conversation about modern values?
God you philosophy 101 faggots are so retarded

>>73390393
If any of your whores listed had any value beyond just being whores I’d sympathize.

see the thing is though that im going to marry her

>>73385400
Most do it for money but I feel like some 2views or low 3views really like the attention and being praised. Also the money

>>73385400
>is capitalism ethical?
No.

What the fuck is Throne?

>>73388552
She got called out for having groom mods and then she went on a "im not angry, you are angry" rant.

>>73385400
Is anyone gonna say who this is supposed to be?

>>73385400
As long as I feel better at the end of it, I don't care how "ethical" it is

>>73389707
>persay
It's over for you anon

Content Creators as a job is as much as a joke as a regular 9 - 5 slave job.

At least with people that are gaming they are providing value giving people a inlook before jumping into a purchase.

>>73385400
i'm gonna say it's fine unless someone like kitboga does a video on them

>>73388311
Makes me cum therefore I forgive it all. Never antipost her again I am willing to die for her

>>73392067
>As long as I feel better at the end of it, I don't care how "ethical" it is
This is it. Either you feel its worth and don't care about anything else, or you don't. It's not different from any other shit that pretty much murders you slowly like drugs or smoking

>>73385400
are you a literal child? people have been doing this even before humans discovered a way to make fire

>>73392149
It never began in the first place anon, I've felt no desires romantically or for connection in over 10 years now.

>>73385400
>Is tricking lonely men ethical?
usually yes. just don't be weird and you won't get tricked

>>73390258
If you're good at something, never do it for free. That being said, between the sheer amount of free content and what you can find with a minimal amount of digging, anyone who pays for smut this day an age is a sucker.

>>73394219
This. People are suckers in these days.

>>73385576
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NLw-SDzfXM

>>73385400
OP is a mind broken faggot and has been stalking and seething about boo bros and now ex boo bros for over a year and has been trying to send hate raids to vtubers they watch
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/73315991/#73323255

>>73385690
Incels are an extremist terrorist group

>>73394573
i believe it :)

>>73394922
>All those deleted posts
Impressively pathetic behavior

Who is the fucking vtuber here? Is OP samefagging the thread or what?

>>73395170
seethe

Is making bait posts ethical ?

>>73395170
See here >>73394922
He's been doing this for over a year and now is just trying to harass small vtubers and just makes up easily disprovable lies about them
Faggot refuses to stop shitting up my home thread with his constant name fagging and off topic posting about his favorite men he likes to stalk

>>73394922
poor boo bros I hope they won't get betrayed again

>>73395360
Same, annoying to see some faggot harass them after they moved on from someone as pathetic and manipulative as Yuko

>>73394922
>>73395276
Different filename. Was probably just saved by someone with a similar outlook.

>>73395666
Faggot ass OP deflecting

>>73395666
Faggot ass OP deflecting.

>>73395276
So people who stopped watching Yuko have schizo stalkers? Jesus

>>73395771
>>73395717
as a fellow jidf fag, you are just as bad as him
kys

>>73395784
Yes and they constantly seethe about how the boo bros moved on to other vtubers and constantly name drops them and just makes up random shit about them

>>73395717
>>73395771
No just making an observation.
Do you have any proof? Or are you the only person to ever post Dino gura too then?
You only linked one singular example in the archive.

>>73395820
>fellow jidf fag
lol no you aren't or you would have said jewbro
>>73395934
Look at the archive and the images he posted here, it's very clearly the same person but you already know that

>>73385400
it's not ethical, but no point in fighting against it. at the end of the day, there will always be avenues for women to exploit men in this way, the only difference is that vtubers are probably the most removed from sex work version of this.

>>73385400
>>73387084
Isn’t that a vtuber from that wasp discord that was raiding trolling and astroturfing a bunch of threads?

What's the line between entertainment and GFE?
Can female chuubas realistically make it as entertainment?

>>73396154
Hi OP
Stop making shit up

>>73396095
>give all your money to a girl playing a video game
>nnnooooo it's not my fault! she tricked me!
why are men incapable of taking responsibility for their actions?

ITT: women seethe about women who earn more money and attention than them

>>73396154
>>73396190
>>73385400
>>73387084
>Isn’t that a vtuber from that wasp discord that was raiding trolling and astroturfing a bunch of threads?
Seems she is you can see her on the side in the member list in this leak posted in /news/
Did she post this thread herself too?

>>73396510
Phase fag you don't need to out yourself this hard

>>73385400
i would do it if i was a women

>>73394922
>boo bros
cucks

>>73396582
What?

>>73396199
I don't blame men because they're just sad and want something to feel better. The reason you can criticize women that do this is because they are knowingly trying to exploit and monetize that sadness for their own gain. Obviously some don't do it intentionally, just by virtue of being a woman who posts on the internet you will probably have men that watch you that view you in a similar way, but the ones that outright try to lie and sell you this experience are the ones that are kind of questionable in their morals.

>>73395784
Yeah it’s pathetic. I guess that’s what Yuko encouraged with the support of her /k/ groomers. they were doing the same shit

>>73396154
>>73396510
RIP /news/fag

>>73396510
take the indie pill they said, it will be fun they said

>>73397237
"indie chuuba" just means "menhera woman without a tard wrangler"
either you love it or you stay the fuck away

>>73385400
All vtubers are tricking lonely men, but nobody cares about lonely men and the lonely men are kinda' asking for it.

>>73397634
how are they asking for it?
most men don't choose to be lonely

I'll never understand why threads just directly harassing vtubers and their fans are allowed

>>73398262
Garbage board
Garbage users
Yet everyone in the industry knows about this place

fanatical . com / en / ? re f= sega

Shenmue 3 is under $4 for the Deluxe Edition

>>73398336
True, I just wish people here enjoyed vtubers instead of enjoying spreading hate and harassment

>>73398336
Touche' douche'

>>73398262
what, having opinions on people or fans isn't allowed?
you know there are hugboxes for that

>>73398348
Is it worth playing though? I haven't played I and II in years and I don't want to slog through a replay just to get to III.

>>73398465
Nigger you made this thread to attack some random fan you hate
It's pathetic, grow up

>>73385400
who is this and why does everyone talk about her?

This is just how church used to be. Lonely men paying for a sense of community and potential to find a wife. The only difference is cost effectiveness, 9/10 of the time at church you would find a cute tradwife to marry and would have paid very little. With chuubas (or even fleshstreamers, (jinny))you essentially gotta be THE whale to have a shot, and chances are the bitch is completely mental and possibly ugly.
I say this as a non-religious person. Go to church, or go to therapy if you're trying to win your oshi's heart by buying her shit.

>>73398615
See >>73394922

>>73398584
Eh better than spending $39.99 for the Deluxe Edition usually. The music is great. Gameplay and Story? Meh. I'd say for the music alone its a good buy for under $4.

>>73387151
I'd take it a step further and say this is what vtubing and things like D&D are all about. Believing a story that everyone knows is false because it's fun to pretend.

>>73398262
Because this is the only place where that's allowed and literally everywhere else on the internet is a safespace. If you can't handle it because you're mentally frail and need le mods to protect you, plebbit is where you belong.

>>73396510
What is wrong with those women?

>>73385400
tricking?
she's giving me love and i'm giving her money
it's not that hard

>>73399009
/here/tubers are the fucking worst

>>73399255
/whore/tubers are the fucking worst.
Fix'd that for ya idiot.

>>73396510
>>73396154
Why were only these two deleted?

>>73397759
I mean the lonely men are asking for a parasocial relationship. You and I both know that none of these girls are virgins, half of them are in a relationship right now, and there's no way in Hell you're ever actually going to somehow meet them and date them yourself, but people feel like there's SOMETHING there. Maybe it's the illusion of these things or maybe it's the idea that supporting a girl like you (sort of) increases the odds of you meeting a girl like you some day, by making it financially viable to be a NEET weeb loser or something. There's something there, but most vtubers won't even come close to saying what it is, because they know the truth. They know they're lying by omission, because it's how you make the most money without feeling guilty for lying overtly.

>>73385400
There's no trick. You were never promised a personal, exclusive relationship. They are performers and you are the audience, no different from Hollywood/Broadway actors and singers and their audience. The fact that you're either too much of a delusional schizo or a fucking retarded manchild with zero real outside world experience and thus can't fathom something this simple is not a "them" problem, it's you. It's not their fault that you're a low-T weak-minded faggot who, instead of confronting their irl failure and fix their shortcomings, retreats to delusional escapism.
I say, let natural selection does its job.

>>73400440
stop gaslighting retarded fag, it's intentional deception, nothing like acting where everyone understands the reality
of course people are dumb for falling for it but that doesn't make the liars innocent

>>73385400
As a lonely man, no, I am happy to be tricked. Even if it's a fake happiness that is being sold, I'm buying. It's better than my previous copes of too much porn & day-drinking.

>>73385400
wtf is even this screenshot?

>>73400996
Yes it is intentional deception. I would never watch a vtuber who made it known she has a boyfriend who fucks her daily. Many do but none tell the truth. The most I can do is not give them any money and abuse them for the free content they provide. Because I'm not giving money to a hole who already has a man supporting her.

>>73385400
She sure is. Making sure you don't become like them is the only thing you can do about it.

>>73395077
Go do something about it then and have sex with one

>>73401613
See you almost got it, but giving money to any hole that you are not personally using regardless of her having a bf or not is already an L

>>73385400
You made the mistake of thinking anyone gives a single shit about men. Now, if it was men targeting lonely women there would already be legislation preventing it.

>>73401731
we should recruit chuubas to be communal mating holes

Yuko yurei wrote this thread

>>73387151
The thing is most of these guys don't actually know the extent of the lie they're getting into. In fact if you probably asked them they would say they support their girl cause they think she's "real" or they relate to her.
They wouldn't actually buy into the product if the girls were fully honest about everything going on behind the scenes. Which indicates that these people aren't willing participants in the lie

>>73398726
D&D is a game you play with friends. The whole point is to act out a story with other people. I mean if that's how you view vtubing then go ahead but that isn't how most people interface with them. They tweet at and obsess over them because they have a genuine interest in them, it's not some game they're playing

>>73385400
Is it ethical? Probably not. If they make lonely men feel good without exposing themselves in any way, where's the harm?
Most chuubas usually have bfs/husbands or WILL have one at some point. Even if they're autistically dedicated towards being Idols, they'll usually still have a guy they have in mind who either waits for them or will simply plap them on their random off days.

>>73385479
there's a saying in my country that goes like
>every day a swindler and an dumbass leave their home, when their path crosses a "deal" is closed

>>73402506
If their lies were exposed the victims would hate them forever
>where's the harm?
lmao kys

>>73385400
hi yuko
go back to starbucks and stop harassing 2views

Is it unethical to do what exactly
Stream? Accept donations from different people with different expectations and views of who you are and what you do?

>>73385400
It's ethical as long as she doesn't have a boyfriend/husband, because then it becomes cuckoldry. Otherwise, those losers are just paying for escapism.

>>73385400
Why does it need to be ethical? It makes people happy. What more do you need?

>>73385400
Sounds like most GFEfags out there

>>73406926
>It's ethical as long as she doesn't have a boyfriend/husband
So it's never ethical?

>>73385400
ok

>>73402506
I'm the guy who plaps fuwamoco btw

>>73385400
I think it's a slippery slope, but everyone has different threshholds. Spend your time and money responsibly, that much should be said.

>>73385400
Eh, I think GFE is fun. The time it becomes an issue is when the streamer says you can only have her be your sole GFE. If they get to have hundreds of men saying they love her then I get to tell a few girls I love them.

>>73385400
Really anon? Of all the vtubers to make a thread about it, you pick a 2view?

>>73417218
you're begrudging a man for shilling his 2view oshi?

>>73398908
Ironic how reddit retards like you put on the tough guy act but when holoSHIT is insulted the jannies come running to ban anyone speaking Ill of their preferred whores

>>73385400
Brother our fellow men need to be smarter and wake up. Woman have figured out they can take advantage of men they promise the world and swear their single for the grift while robbing the suckers that bite the bait blind. Should one of them fight back understanding this and point this out the woman will lie and attempt to ruin your name they will see no repercussions for it. Even if you have hard evidence their simps will defend the womans lies for a better chance at the illusion of dating her and cucking the other simps this is the world we now live in. This is the game these GFE e-girls all play my advice to any man is get smart learn and start to identify the manipulation tactics they use and if too many red flags rise up run for the hills. Think with the right head bros when in doubt say fuck you to penis brain-kun

>>73412551
I made this post, btw

>>73385400
Stop harassing 2 views yuko, boobros aren't coming back

>>73420624
It's actually really fucking funny but also really sad that there is a decent chance this thread was actually made by her or one of her close friends

>>73420624
>Yuko
Yeah I was getting the same feeling. Like who else would care this much about some literal who that boobros have jumped to after they dropped Yuko

>>73412551
I'm the guy who plaps this guy btw

>>73394922
>nooo you can't just call out our secret discord grooming group for targeting 2views

Is he crying that friends watch vtubers together?

>>73385400
nah, these guys experience love
they just experience it too much
they call every single woman they watch their wife
tell them that they love them
and then play with their feelings just for a crumb of affection
go take a look at this other girl hex, one of the boobros tried to offer her a place to stay at his house while nagging her about everything she does so he can mould her to fit his ideal woman, actually, he offers any girl he meets a place at his house KEK
whores, the load of them that's what
Yuko was right to drop them, just to watch them unravel and expose what bloodthirsty leeches they are behind their masks of saviorfags

>bumping his own bait thread from page 10 for 12 hours when the overwhelming response is >who?

because you bite and you know im right

>>73385400
yes

We used to have wars to cull the excess men but everything is done with bombs and drones now so all the useless dudes just sit around on their computer instead of going into the military meat grinder

>>73424969
https://suno.com/song/3830cfbb-97f8-421e-a727-e8bd3b0bd649

>>73427877
based i love AI shitposting

>>73427877
Kek what the fuck is this

>>73385400
As long as both parties are consenting adults, why should it matter?

>>73427877
this is brilliant, I'm going to turn every retarded long post into a song now

You ever see one of those news programs where they cover someone who gave a ton of money to some scammer who convinced them they were in love and needed a bunch of money? Usually they target elderly divorcees. I feel like in the next five years were gonna see one of those but for a vtuber fan, mid 20s or 30s gave thousands to some e-girl, and then they'll manage to find her dox and pull up to her house mid-stream asking why she thinks its okay to target so many vulnerable people, why doesnt she give the money back etc. Thats gonna be pretty funny.

hey it's a living

Where do we hide now that the foids followed us into our game streaming places.

>>73417218
>>73417344
he doesn't care about the vtuber, he's unironically grudgestalking her fans

>>73387904
>when Lumi cucked them yesterday
what happened?

>>73385400
This is true of all vtubers and their fans lol, and I'm saying this as someone who is really fond of a few chuubas.

>>73430977
back to gunplay and plane models it is

>>73385400
fuck your ethics

>>73385400
misread this as "tickling lonely men"
would lonely men like to be tickled?

>>73385479
FPBP
This board says they love pick me women so they have to stick with their beliefs. She did nothing wrong.

>>73387533
I'm in this picture and I don't like it....

>>73390393
That's your fault bro.

>>73420865
It’s definitely either one of Yuko’s friends, or one of her white knight simps making this thread. They’re just upset that people are starting to laugh at her for throwing out her career for /k/ fags.

>>73385400
>is lying to your viewers for money ethical
No
Has ethics ever stopped women from being gold diggers?
No

>>73385400
Only if she has a bf (is a whore)