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r-selected vs. K-selected (niji vs. holo, respectively)

>>73378377
This is elite pukusukusu thread now.

>>73379845
edward! i didnt know youre into vtubers. fucking based. while youre here tell me which corpos are spiteful mutans?

>>73378377
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-jporpTqTQ

Yagoo cried with miko on meetings that time when miko was having trouble with her channel...
He also cried on stream during Coco graduation

This Yagoo guy sounds rike crybaby
He never gonna have yatch of his own with that attitude

>>73380337
IDK who edward is
r/K selection theory co-opted from biology is basic 2016 trump campaign HBD stuff. It just so happens to also perfectly fit the difference between Niji and Holo.

>>73380389
Riku also has dinners with his employees but that goes against the agenda

>>73380806
edward dutton. a prof that streams on youtube where he talks alot about evolutionary psychology, r/k selection and stuff.

ello ello ello

>>73378377
Crazy to see how massive Hololive is now

Almost all members passed 1 million subs mark, and 2 million sub milestone is not an impossible goal for some members. And if you are a new Holomem, 100k subs is a guarantee, possibly even before you debut

Meanwhile in Niji, only 9 out of hundred members across all branches passed 1 million, and half of the crew treat 500k subs as a massive achievement

>>73380389

>ex_nijis like Doki and Mint and Matara get all the love in the world in their new lives
>ex-holos like kson and miguel get told to eat shit because the company is always right
>Mel already forgotten and everyone blamed her or blamed niji instead
Just my 2 cents but hololive fans literally only care about the company. They only care about feeling like they are with the most popular [current thing] in the same way capeshit s(o)yboys do.
And their mentality towards anything NOT hololive is the textbook definition of boomers who grew up with jews telling them the world is black and white, good vs evil and nothing else.
They have zero capacity for nuance. Basically lobotomized, politicised useful idiots.

>>73381085
its almost as if all of these fans are irrelevant numbers to the talent and company

>>73381085
I guess my point didn't come across, I wasn't really talking about subscribers and numbers per se, but the attitude and mentality of the companies.
Hololive seems to have more trust, believe in them and give positive reinforcements to their talents.
Like when management told Suisei not to make a "First take" -like video for her channel because she might get there someday.

>>73380901
YASSSS so true sister, they're exactly the same

>>73381318
>hololive fans literally only care about the company
When NijiEN debuted, guess who was the majority there in chat cheering them on. Hint: it wasn't english fans of nijisanji.

>>73381318
>ex_nijis like Doki and Mint and Matara get all the love in the world in their new lives
yes they do but not from nijiniggers or organs

>>73378377
Saying “nigger” saved her career, cemented Hololive as the alpha Vtuber corp and started the Western Vtubing rush. Fucking kneel

>>73380389
>Yagoo cried with miko on meetings that time when miko was having trouble with her channel...
>He also cried on stream during Coco graduation

>>73380198

>>73381318
Pot calling the kettle black the post.

>>73382543
kettle could call the pot any color and it chose black...

>>73378377
The nijisisters bringing up FalseEye being an antivaxxer or something made me realize something. They are probably the same cultists that pushed the masks and the vax or get fired on the world. They, and the company are basically evil people. They use corporate power to push their worldviews and agenda. They aren't actually fans of vtubers which is why they call them livers and shit.

>>73382971
I understand the vaxx part, but why is so hard to wear a mask?

>>73380536
Fuck the yacht, we got him a mansion and now we are going to get him a full blown airbus with hookers in thongs serving Peko-cola

>>73383098
It doesn't do anything. Listen, wear if you want, but forcing people to use something that isn't going to do jack is a waste of money or peoples income, inane and borderline insane. Plus most of the population using them was throwing them on the ground in parking lots and wherever they could.

Just get hydroxochloroquine like the Indian doctor advised people to take who was successfully treating the Chinese patients in the outbreak centers. Relying on a face cover as a placebo is retarded.

>>73383098
I've been seeing more masks on the ground than cigarettes after the covid brainrot. The sheer amount of garbage those policies have caused cannot be measured.

>>73382971
Well yeah. It's that crowd that gets called SJW/woke/leftists that side with big corpos. I think most of them are bots though so it might seem like there are more of them than there actually are. The real ones are usually criminals or drug addicts.

>>73381318
Ex Niji get to show how much the company was holding them back, while ex Holos have to deal with an userbase used to collabs, events, concerts and all those things without the support that the company gives them.
Not to mention that, while most of the vtuber community will never admit it, most of the restrictions that Holo impose on its talents, while annoying, do end up enhanching the viewing experience in the long term.

>>73380337
From what I've seen in this sphere, the corpos themselves aren't spiteful mutants. The fans are. Specifically, Nijisisters and unicorns (regardless of corpo). Both are very high in neuroticism. Both are anti-social, delusional, emotionally dependent upon parasocial relationships, etc... Both are unlikely to breed. The only difference is gender make up.

>>73381917
based

>>73381877
migo saying nigger was the first time ive ever seen a vtuber.

>>73383822
kson has had more events than she ever did as coco (0)
you are a third world threadreader

>>73381318
Not even a single refutal to this post just deflection.
Masterpiece of a comment.

>>73381318
There's some truth to this. But sadly most people will just ignore it, as you said.

>>73380901
Yes retardchama, Riku paying sushi to his wageslaves is exactly the same as CHADGOO cutting a part of his own salary and canning a whole branch to save two his talents

>>73378377
you niggers can't even praise hololive without bringing up nijisanji anymore

>>73388028
Yes, because Nijisanji (EN) really is that bad.

Love you Miko

>>73385640
Do you step in every pile of dog shit you come across, or do you ignore it?

>>73383098
That's like erecting chainlink fence to keep mosquitos out

>>73381318
>>ex_nijis like Doki and Mint and Matara get all the love in the world in their new lives
Okay, you got me to reply

>>73380901
Riku has private dinner with Luxiem, his (back then) EN cashcows. Ever wonder why there hasn't been any story of him having private dinner with the ENshitters yet?

>>73385637
That bitch tried to take credit for Myth. The nerve!

>>73381318
>>ex_nijis like Doki and Mint and Matara get all the love in the world in their new lives
Not from Nijisisters, who are so devoted to anti-ing Doki that they still spam every forum and social media to this day.
>>ex-holos like kson and miguel get told to eat shit because the company is always right
No? Kson was beloved by holos. She only started getting flak after joining VShojo, and even then most holos still like her.
Mikeneko's exit had a huge portion of her fans following her to her PL, and quite a large group of holos either defending her or seeing it as an unfortunate situation like Mel. We all know what happened with her afterwords, though, so don't even try to rewrite history on this.
>>Mel already forgotten and everyone blamed her or blamed niji instead
You'll notice that no one is anti-ing Mel. Heck, you'll notice that Holos aren't anti-ing Sana or Delu either, unlike what you guys keep trying to do to Doki. Heck, as much as Magni and Vespers are hated by Holos here, most Holobronies don't even bother anti-ing them and just let them be.
This is such a brazenly self-unaware post that I'm surprised you even have the balls to type this. It's like a serial killer pointing to a normal neighborhood and going "hey, they don't fly over to Africa to help starving children, so it's like they murdered them. They're as bad as me!" This can't be anything other than a troll post.

>>73381318
I feel like when it comes to brand loyalty it goes:
Hololive > Phase > Nijisanji > Vshojo > Mythic Talent and other talent management companies.

>>73389308
>She only started getting flak after joining VShojo
numberpagpag revisionism

>>73389637
>Forgot that holofans back then shat on Hololive for what happened to Coco
Speaking of revisionism, it would seem that the only people that actually hated Coco back then were the Chinese. There must be some correlation. I wonder what that is?

>>73389810
>the only people that actually hated Coco back then were the Chinese
and now you faggots act just like them

>>73389863
>Makes blatantly false statements
>Gets called out
>B-but holos are the same thing
I don't give a shit if Holobronies are rabid or not. What I care about is you guys seething so hard at your ex-livers that you're determined to ruin their lives and reputation in whatever means possible. Including making shit up and shitting up other talents' threads for your little crusade.
You're actually worse than dramatubers, which is an accomplishment.

>>73390266
i hate chinkysanji more than you, retard

>>73390337
Sure you do.

>>73389308
Sana literally had to deal with antis from the hololive community while she was still in there. the dead dog superchat was even celebrated by a lot of retards here.

>>73381318
Lmao, literally equating truth with lies here

>>73390461
you are just as bad as the nijifags
you have hated kson ever since she left hololive and when she joined vshojo you just gained a convenient excuse to hate her (just like the chinese holofags)

>>73381318
>ex-holos like kson and miguel get told to eat shit because the company is always right
Only in the catalog, where suprise suprise people false flag all the time.
>Mel already forgotten and everyone blamed her or blamed niji instead
This is just bullshit, Mel gets posted and talked about pretty frequently. Why act like this post speaks the truth and how no one can refute if when it's just made up? Kson is popular, Rushia and Mel both messed up and Mel was even seen off as favorably as can be expected.

>>73390775
>Only in the catalog
and /#/
and global
and twitter
and youtube
and reddit

>>73390811
I've never seen more then one off posts about it in global. I don't care about the occasional posts from probable bad faith actors and pissed off chinamen.

>>73390592
Yeah, the Holo fanbase has a lot of retards. I'm not debating this; but when Sana left most of the fans were actually pretty positive about her. You have a shit thread popping up every so often, but people didn't follow her PL to shit on her for months end like they did with Doki.
I'm not saying that the Hololive fanbase are all saints with no bad apples whatsoever. That would be dumb. The post I'm responding to was saying this, though:
>Look at how we support Doki and Mint while Holofags hate coco and rushia. They're so tribalistic while we are not.
Which is the dumbest take when you look at just how hard Doki is getting anti'd by sisters, and the fact that sisters are trying to weaponize Mint to shit on Doki even more. This isn't a "some people post shit now and then and maybe a troll post on the catalog" that you might see from /vt/ in general. This is months and months of continuous schizo-ing to try to sink her reputation.

>>73390929
Ok, I can agree with that take. Nijisisters are definitely far more vicious.

>>73390929
>months and months of continuous schizo-ing to try to sink her reputation
this is what you fags have done to kson for almost 3 years now

>NDF tries not to have an aneurysm counter resets daily
>Hololive just grows stronger every day

Must suck to slave away for those $5 steam gift cards just to resell them for cheaper to other third-party shit sites that give you $2 USD nijisisters.

>>73391069
At most it's indifference and you know it. Pretending it's pissed off hololive fans is some massive cope or just being a retard.

>>73391181
if you were indifferent i wouldn't have to see your moronic posts because they wouldn't exist
dumb ape

>>73391217
Indifference to Coco, try not to get mad so easily anon.

>>73391355
yeah and you post every day about how she's a traitor or a camwhore or a poacher or some other retarded ape shit you made up

>>73378377
Yagoo is an actual businessman with 30+ years of experience. Riku left grad school and his dad handed him millions of dollars as a loan and told him to go zap to the extreme so riku did whatever he thought was cool. It's like Zuck in that movie about Zuck, the social retard- "I'm ceo, bitch!".

>>73391388
I do? Anon you really need some help, this projection isn't healthy.

>>73391462
"you" can also be used as a plural
read a book, ape

>>73391533
Are you okay anon? do you need to talk? You seem to want to feel superior for some reason despite all the evidence to the contrary. Did you get called an ESL one too many times and want to take it out on others?

>>73391533
Time to take your daily medication, sister