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73366801 No.73366801 [Reply] [Original]

Without any conclusive evidence that management followed proper protocol when it came to processing Selen's video, the situation is a 'she said company said' scenario. In the public eye it is on the company to show proper justification of termination as they were recently shown to actively 1. lie to the public (case in point - skin walking accounts) 2. harassment (timing of black screen, of its contents to defame Selen publicly). These are undisputed events that schizo rrats relished in due to a very obvious line of fault between Niji's Termination Letter, Black Video & Selen's Twitter. They had established Nijisanji EN's current character as a Black company /here/ and using those 2 points took off with countless rrats into public opinion via drama fags. These rrats were more natural conclusions that would hit a wall due to Niji's reputation but Niji broke that and opened the floodgate, contrary to popular belief it was not Selen who achieved that, she kept to the NDA.
People aren't dumb just because you want them to be. Nothing also stops you from moving on with your lives btw
Selen did not follow protocol but was the process fair in the first place? Why would it take management a year to develop a video when you can compare with Maria having Pomu in her vid released a month later?
There were signs of disrepute due to Selen organizing a tournament the month before despite it being a successful event.
The PR disaster as well shows no accountability by management instead letting their Livers take the hit in public opinion.
A pivotal point in this entire situation was that the artists supported the Liver against Niji on this issue despite possible persecution of a larger organization, the internal vtubing community did not condone their actions. Niji IS still unable to realize their hubris that they cannot strong arm their opinion of this situation and have already set their course on wards who they will support going forward. Bullies and Snakes.

>> No.73367072 [DELETED] 

>>73366801
I dare the niji jannie to delete this thread

>> No.73367096

AI summarize
>The management's handling of Selen's video, despite not following proper protocol, has been criticized for lying to the public and harassing her. The company's reputation as a Black company was established through the termination letter, black video, and Selen's Twitter. The PR disaster shows no accountability, as management allowed their Livers to take the hit in public opinion. The artists supported the Liver against Niji, despite possible persecution, and the internal vtubing community did not condone their actions. Niji is unable to realize their hubris and has set their course on who they will support going forward.

>> No.73367328

>>73367096
I like it
Better for wider digestion and wall of text scares people off plus helps improve my train of thought.

>> No.73367349

>>73367096
Still too long.

>> No.73367364

>>73367096
Summarize it again

>> No.73367447

>>73367349
There are too many fuck ups Niji did to summarize. Many people are unaware of the time line so wall of text helps jump to certain point of events.
A simple of an average third persons thought process would be the best though.

>> No.73367987

>>73367072
you think they got someone on the inside?

>> No.73368088

what is it with women and writing long ass novels of nonsense when they seethe thinking anyone would bother reading it

>> No.73368143

>>73366801
But Doki never said management didn't follow proper protocol, schizos online did. So it's just Niji said/dramafags said. You never proved they skin walked anyone, uploading a video isn't harassment because you posted it at the same time as someone else. Artists are just riding the drama wave, akin to cancel culture

>> No.73368686

>>73366801
>despite it being a successful event.
More like she oversold it and didn't deliver on what she thought she could.

>> No.73369151

>>73368143
this has to be bait

>> No.73369192

>>73353459

>> No.73369721

>>73367364
>>73367349
The management mishandled Selen's video, leading to public criticism for dishonesty and harassment. Their actions established the company's "Black company" reputation. The PR disaster lacks accountability, with Livers facing public backlash while artists side with them against Niji. Niji's arrogance is evident as they show clear support preferences going forward.

>> No.73369762

>>73368143
The point is that the protocol is modified at will punish "troublesome" livers and generally retarded.

>> No.73370025

>>73367987
>deleted
What do you think?

>> No.73370158

>>73370025
wow. thats either real wild or anon was real stupid.

>> No.73370305

>>73366801
you missed
>3. confirmation of staff favoritism
Which has been confirmed thanks to Luca having broken all NDAs possible yet with no consequences for him

>> No.73371335

>>73370305
>no consequences yet

>> No.73372462

>>73366801

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>> No.73373587

>>73371335
With how badly he broke NDA, anything less than termination is favoritism.

>> No.73373706

>>73366801
I would really like to have a look in their brain for the decisions of the "Negligible Statement, Black Screen Stream, STATEMENT FROM NIJI THAT THERE WAS LIVERS INVOLVED IN THE BULLYING"
I can be stupid at times but man they knocked it out of the park with those PR statements.

>> No.73373755

>>73370305
This isn't Hololive. They don't fire someone for breaking NDA for unimportant shit. Name a single time anyone in Niji was fired for breaking NDA

>> No.73373827

>>73373587
They're gonna wait until after the AR "live" at least.

>> No.73374894

>>73368143
This was the kind of response I was aiming for. If someone did try to counter the wall of text the counter arguments go straight to these kind of points.

1. Skin walking = rrats proved it those crazy fuckers. Not only that due to the time frame of Doki's release and she was in a mental part of the hospital. In Canada, no they don't return your phone thus emergency contact.

2. They publicly attempted to smear Selen. The general public had no business understanding the god awful thought process that went into deciding her termination. It exposed NijiEN not Selen. It was bad, horribly bad PR.

3. Artists were not paid, that's nothing to do with cancel culture. That's bad business.

Well something like that. The fact is you can jump across so many points to debate with this yab. If any future evidence does get revealed by Niji like if they did their due diligence I welcome it as well.
>>73372576
heh

>> No.73376060

>>73366801
i'm not reading all that shit, but i'm happy you're not constipated anymore

>> No.73376382

>maybe if we all make our threads together people will buy it!
no

>> No.73377002

>"Selen should have just followed the proper procedure"
If Nijisanji had any proper procedures we wouldn't be here.

>> No.73377344

Couldn't find the stock holder poster. He summed it up eloquently why Niji is in a crisis. There's so much room for part 2.

>> No.73378755
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73378755

You don't want to escape it because you are addicted both to drama and to hating Nijisanji and Selen's termination was the ultimate high that you will chase but never reach again for the remainder of the time you are interested in Vtubers

>> No.73380692

>>73367328
I know people shit on "Reddit spacing," but it really helps to break those paragraphs up. Don't do more than 2-3 sentences per paragraph, too. Look at how a news article is written to get an idea.

I read somewhere that the more sentences there are in a paragraph, the more likely it is for people to just skip the paragraph.

>> No.73383475

>>73376060
thanks for the summary

>> No.73386488

>>73378755
we have people on this board that still hold on to the high they got from the coco drama, everyone just wants their own 9/11, thing is the big splash is usually just a tipping that happens long after the actual event has happened, people that looked at niji last year away from the drama would've known that the goose was cooked for EN long before any drama happened and we all meme'd about accelerate because it was always going to lead to what we see now

>> No.73387000

>>73369721
shorter.

>> No.73388566

>>73378755
That's how it is.

>> No.73388873

>>73366801
>>73367096
AI was a mistake, then again the public is stupid and was the worst part of this drama.

>> No.73390183

>>73373827
Probably a bit longer than that. Luca's currently scheduled to be at the Singapore show on the 27th, so he's probably not getting fired before then.

>> No.73393934

>>73366801
ogey

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>>73378755
the sheer audacity of sisters using Mint of all people to shitpost holy shit

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Gemini AI's summary

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73397133

Gemini AI's scenarios.

I like how the rebuild focuses on 'fostering a positive environment'. And that it would be done slowly, not accelerate.

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>>73366801

>> No.73398533

>>73396951
kek

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>>73366801
Format your block of text, retard.

>> No.73400466

>>73398981
if he did then he'd get hordes of retards accusing him of reddit spacing as if they've never seen the written word in their life
you can't win on this hellsite sometimes

>> No.73403100

>>73367096
Lmao nice

>> No.73405552

2 points make a line and 3 make a trend, and that trend isn't looking good

>> No.73407584

>>73369762
Protocol was to wait for final checks before uploading. Selen didn't, simple as. Yes, it took a day for her manager to get back to her, which was shit. Even then though that could be excused by the current events at the time ie managers busy with NijiFES. Still when it comes down to it, Selen uploaded something which did not have approval hence she broke protocol. AnyColor has done a lot of shitty things and I will criticize them for it accordingly, but the cover was ultimately Selen's fault.

>> No.73407690

>>73374894
>Skin walking = rrats proved it
Unironically thinking rrats proved anything is hysterical. She was in the hospital in the 27th. Everything before lawyers happened on the 26th. They don't immediately throw you into the mental ward after a suicide attempt either. You don't know what you're talking about
>They publicly attempted to smear Selen
Well they never lied and only said why she was being fired. The public would be spreading rrats about why she was being fired and be attacking the company for being vague. All Vtuber corporations do this, are they all smearing their tubers?
>Artists were not paid
By Selen. I agree it's amazing how stupid artists are that they don't research who's supposed to be paying them

>> No.73407713

>>73387000
tl;Dr Niji management sucks ass and lost public favor except for the sisters.

>> No.73408146

>>73407584
>>73407584
Just a correction, manager still didn't have the perms when he contacted her about posting the video, now that i think about it did they even un-privatized the video? They had january to do it but they didn't

>> No.73408944

>>73408146
Just to add. It wasn't perms for anything external. It was an internal permissions issue with her using graduated livers ie nijisanji IP. We have seen that there are no problems when using graduated liver imagery thanks to other livers' covers, but because they're an anal autistic Japanese company, they still need to give the go ahead before livers can upload their covers, which ultimately is what Selen failed to do. Then her outright telling fans to reupload it was the nail that sealed the deal.

>> No.73409139

>>73408146
Why would they do shit with her account if she was suspended?

>> No.73410758

>>73407690
Wall post is also great at filtering out how disgusting people behave who defend this Black company.
What makes you think from the point of drama till she left hospital she would be fit to publicly announce her condition?
Typical NijiEN damage control on top of the different apostaphres whenever skin walking is obvious.

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