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>not one FWMC morning since they moved
>one gaming stream a month
I TOLD YOU THIS WOULD HAPPEN. I FUCKING TOLD YOU.

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>> No.73336490

Based thread countersage

>> No.73336514

>>73336146
so much for that pledge, they actively ignore talking about now

>> No.73336604

I thought it would be Shiori who grifted first.

>> No.73336608

>>73336514
Average female vtuber grift

>> No.73336781

Every ENvtuber is a grifter.

>> No.73336910

>>73336146
no you didnt and ieven if you did you are wrong and FWMC wins

>> No.73336920

Why are ruffians this needy?

>> No.73337565

>>73336146
just wait more time, if it's a lie it can't last forever they'll make another excuse and I will have lost all hope on humans
if it's the truth they will come back, everything will be fine in the universe and I'll hope you kill yourself

>> No.73337660

you guys actually watch streams?

>> No.73337929

Elira's going to blow her brains out on stream

>> No.73338399

>>73336146
I thought the dogos would last at least year before discovering how easy is to just not stream in holo.

>> No.73338420

>>73336146
>one hour of fotm chillas art
>mostly in japanese
>followed by thanking their japanese whales for the supers
westerners should have coughed up some money if they didnt want this to happen

>> No.73338497

>>73337565
Two more weeks, right ruffian?

>> No.73339035

>>73336146
Too busy filming JAVs

>> No.73339109

>>73336146
FWMC failed to protect my smile

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>>73336146

>> No.73339536 [DELETED] 

>>73336146
this kills the nijisister
>Niji pay is so shit Finana is broke and can't afford to make a new song (self-admitted)
>Doki reclaimed her Epic account stolen by Niji making them seethe in impotence.
>Mint told Niji to fuck off and is thriving as an indie, making friendly references to Doki
>Aia hinted at graduating and reactivated her PL
>Scarle reactivated her PL after getting harassed by sisters over fucking Starbucks
>Ren has been doomposting on his PL.
>Kotoka is on an infinite "mental health" break and will most likely graduate
>Millie's outfit reveal being a flop, maximum 3.8k CCV
>MK tournament flopped, couldn't even beat Korone
>Rosemi's 3D debut being the worst in Niji history
>Vox fucked off to be a white monkey on bilibili like a bitch, still gets shit views
>Elira will finally stream after 2 months but will hide from her consequences restricting the chat and her return will flop
>Luca shitshow and blatant favoritism, clear breach of contract yet still gets away with it.
>Play Button drama by Claude "you could just fucking ask" Clawmark
>Hex yab comments about killing goldfish and dumping dead people's ashes "for fun", Zaion got fired for way less.
>Uki "White people scare me" Violeta
>The whole "We love artists" psyop when in reality Niji refuses to pay artists
>Nijisisters made a fucking blacklist bordering on full doxx and ended up making them looking like retards.
>Virtual Rhapsody SEA concert is a glorified L2D Karaoke
>The concert is selling so badly they are removing purchase limits to get people to buy
>AR Colors rushed out and butchered a lot of footage due to graduated livers, fucked over Rosemi and Petra.
>3D showcases being rushed out before Q4 after being stalled for 2 years, will definitely flop
>The latest niji gen still can't get to 100k subs and almost never reach more than 3 finanas of CCV
>Stocks are stagnated and will fall once the sales ban is lifted
>Niji desperately spamming Iluna and XSoleil merch to get some scraps before the Q4 report

>> No.73339712

>>73336146
Still more streams that Vox and Elira KEK

>> No.73339791

Isn't the dog game and shinkansen game already 2 gaming streams in April so far?

>> No.73339864

>>73336146
ruffians are pathetic

>> No.73339958

>>73336146
Everyone who in the known know their current situation, sorry sister but no amount of seethe and shitting on the dogs, will make those signatures in those Luca cards authentic.

>> No.73340167

>>73336146
holy samefagging, op

>> No.73340169

>>73339791
3 if you count them rescheduling the dog game again after the first attempt got fucked by them attempting to do what /vt/ was screaming at them to all month. (just stream at a hotel off of whatever wifi you can)

>> No.73342180

>>73336146
its pretty unbelievable how far they have fallen. All because they wanted to be weebs? Seriously? Eating fresh onigiri or whatever from some shitty stall and sleeping on tatami mats in a tiny ass apartment was worth giving up MILLIONS OF FUCKING DOLLARS if they would have just kept doing what they were doing? Fucking idiots.

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>>73336146
cool your tits, have an energy drink, and go punch some drywall

>> No.73343598

>>73336910
>>73337929
>>73339242
>>73339536
>>73339712
>>73339958
is it not possible to feel upset about this? i get it if (You) have all the patience in the universe but im frankly tired of bending over backwards waiting for something to come out of what i paid for

>> No.73343728
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>>73343598
No because I'm watching them stream right now in another window. They're being adorable as always.
They gave us 7 full months of raw effort and hard work. It'd be a shame for people to not recognize that.

>> No.73343758

>>73336146
GRIM

>> No.73344338

Fuwawa and Mococo: Tokyo Grift

>> No.73344347

>>73336146
Don't be dumb Ruffians. Give your oshis a break. Who cares about FWMC morning, they are streaming, enjoy them.

>> No.73344448

>>73336146
Lmao is this real?
No way they actually made a Pledge of Loyalty.

>> No.73344721

>>73343598
Then stop paying and leave. No one is keeping you here. Or are you afraid if you leave it won’t actually do anything and you have to realize most people don’t give a fuck? Instead of crying this hard just fucking leave. No one cares. But you’re clearly used to not one giving a shit about you after all these years with your parents.

>> No.73345147

Just let them do their thing. They want to debut for a different job, unrelated to Holo, in April.

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>>73344448
They did and it's adorable.
And if they've never once deviated from it, I don't see any reason to break it either.

>> No.73345510

>>73344721
yeah, shun the non-believers. all glory to the lazy dogs

>> No.73345511

I knew this shit was going to happen when ruffians wouldn't stop fucking breaking containment from the general and just had to go around praising how fwmc were the only true idols in all of EN and shitting on every other girl. The first tiny issue was going to get the grudgeposted to shit because they just had to be spamming cunts all over the catalog just like the chumbies before them
Let this be a lesson for the future, just shut the fuck up and love your oshi without pitting them against everyone else

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And it's only gonna get worse from what we know from her PL account announcements. Get ready for a wild ride

>> No.73345974

I think the main problem with them moving to Japan is how fast it was. I think they should have waited a bit after their first anniversary or get to their 1.5 year mark before moving to Japan. Even if this was always the plan from the get go, the timing of it is still pretty shit. A full month off with no end in sight at such an early point in their Hololive careers is bad optics even if it isn’t their fault

>> No.73346090

you know sisters are desperate when they keep pushing this shitty angle

>> No.73346240

>>73345511
the ruffians have been raided nearly every day since fwmc debut. I highly doubt they're the ones fucking shit up.
The thread is borderline unusable and has been for months outside of actual streams.

>> No.73346328

>>73336146
you told us what? where's the post huh? prove it

>> No.73346444

>>73346240
To be honest, /bau/ has always been kind of unusable. It already was just pornposting + menhera posting a couple of months after their debut. Most ruffians on /vt/ are unstable af

>> No.73346632

>73345883
Sure sister, sure.

>> No.73346702

>>73345510
The door is right there you turbo nigger. Stop paying for shit if it doesn’t give you what you want instead of making these threads on cooldown like a fucking woman.

>> No.73346772

>>73336146
Go away seething sister, stop using them for your bait BAU BAU

>> No.73347052

>>73346702
NTA But you know that people can stop paying and still complain, don't you?

>> No.73347307

>>73347052
sure, but if you're going to complain, don't expect people to agree with you if your points are moronic, like screaming about how a homeless streamer isn't streaming 3 times a day like they did when they weren't homeless.

>> No.73347419

>>73344721
This is what everyone used to say when people criticized rooster teeth. "Just leave, good riddance !" Look what happened.

>> No.73347451

I mean if you can make money without working who wouldn't turn lazy.

>> No.73347843

>>73339536
Whoa, anon. I heard that word is a slur now.

>> No.73347944

>>73347307
They arent fucking homeless, Jesus Christ.

>> No.73347985

>>73347419
It's also what people said to Finana.
If there really are that many ruffians who feel that way, just go ahead and leave. It's absolutely okay. You don't have to support someone you don't want to but feel obligated for.

>> No.73348203

>>73343728
This. They streamed more in 7 months than most will stream in years. What's more, every single stream of theirs was extremely professional and clearly took a lot of preparation work. They absolutely deserve all the trust they're getting and I have full confidence that they'll be back to streaming more regularly while hectic outside matters settle down.

>> No.73348237

>>73347985
Its really not hard. I did it to an oshi that started streaming less and less. These women should never be supported for no reason. That's how they develop bad habits. More people should end memberships when they stream less. It would send a message that more of them need to hear

>> No.73348293

>>73342180
>All because they wanted to be weebs? Seriously?
This was obvious from their first week in Hololive

>> No.73348301

>>73348203
Are ruffians this delusional?

>> No.73348389

>>73348301
Feel free to disprove any of my points. Everything I said are facts solidly grounded in reality.

>> No.73348516

>>73348203
>every single stream of theirs was extremely professional and clearly took a lot of preparation work
so? they weren't entertaining

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>>73348301
In 209 days from debut up until they left, they streamed 295 times, with several of them being extremely ambitious projects like their VNs or their consistent morning shows.
They've never been late for a stream. Not even once since debut.
I'd say that kind of incredible consistency and dedication absolutely earns them leniency while moving to a country as fucked up as Japan.

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this used to always be reversed

>> No.73348852

>>73347985
It's a lose/lose because Nijisisters want Ruffians to leave in droves. They need a new punching bag.

>> No.73348930

>>73348769
theyre reading superchats now nigger

>> No.73349144

>>73348293
true, but why the hell would you stop in the middle of your massive push to the top? why now? god damn its so stupid, wait a year or two

>> No.73349243

>>73348516
none of the niji's streams looked professional and were still not entertaining.

>> No.73349267

>>73348930
that's literally all they do anymore. play a game for 45 minutes then read superchats for 2 hours

>> No.73349284

>>73343598
you paid to watch Elira blow her brains out on stream? was that like a sub goal or something? 'cause if it was then I'm in.

>> No.73349316

>>73349144
>stop
retard
it's temporary slowdown

>middle of your massive push
turbo retard
they were slowing down

>wait a year or two
you're the one who is fucking stupid
it's much better if they go to Japan asap because it lets them benefit from Japanese market sooner
if they waited two years like your retarded ass thinks they would permanently kill their chances of entering JP market properly

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>>73348769
At least don't be disingenuous. They're reading superchats right now. This could take a while.

>> No.73349496

>>73348516
i'm sorry you can't feel entertained if you don't hear every five minutes about how the streamer is going out with a different streamer and gossiping about another streamer, nijisister

>>73349267
because they're getting superchats
nijisanji could never
whole branch gets less superchats than doggos alone

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>>73336146
Who could have thought one autistic plant is more loyal to "not her friends" than the grifter puppies?

>> No.73349565

>>73349144
they dont care about Hololive success, all they care about is their dream to become Japanese

>> No.73349601

>>73348735
I don't give a shit. Keep streaming. I don't care about anything else. Just STREAM.

>> No.73349639

>>73349316
>it lets them benefit from Japanese market
There is no benefit from the Japanese market. They're EN, their fans are in EN. There's no reason for them to move to Japan outside of them being moronic weeaboos

>> No.73349747

>>73336781
Ogey Last Samurai

>> No.73349787

>>73349565
They'll graduate in record time once they find some chigyu fucker willing to marry both of their pasty asses for the nationality. They won't spare the wuffians a single thought.

>> No.73349894

>>73349787
they're too autistic to get married

>> No.73349942

>>73336146
botted whores without an ounce of talent

>> No.73349958

>>73336146
>Superchat reading
>Superchat reading
>Superchat reading
Do Ruffians really watch this shit?

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Jesus Christ the absolute sister seethe these two mutts generate is fucking unreal

>> No.73350032

>>73349639
jp has a less insane cost of living than canadian/american cities, even if they're in tokyo. yen is weak as shit compared to USD, and if i had to guess the majority of their revenue is USD

>> No.73350073

>>73349958
We absolutely love listening to them talk and their zatsus are fantastic.
>>73349601
They're streaming literally right now.

>> No.73350128

>>73336146
what is it with you faggots and shitting on FWMC, is this some sort of nijinigger campaign?

>> No.73350137

>>73350032
Living in Japan is really difficult for foreigners, especially if they aren't married to a Japanese person

>> No.73350153

>>73349639
They've been trying to be japanese for their entire life.
>>73350032
It's not monetary. They're just turbo mega weebs and complete dumbasses.

>> No.73350177

>>73349894
They'll do anything to become Japanese, even whore themselves out to kimoota.

>> No.73350196

>>73336146
You know they read this right? Stop it, is a mean spirited bait attempt

>> No.73350271

>>73350073
Then KEEP STREAMING. 24/7.

>> No.73350331

>>73349639
What a fucking moron. JP market is way bigger than EN one, if we talk about ACTIVE audience. EN is only bigger in terms of dead subs count.
FuwaMoco are the only streamers who can properly benefit from both markets and it makes perfect sense for them to move to Japan in their first year. They have already cultivated sizeable fanbase in EN and can now further grow it in Japan while also providing even better content than before due to proximity to Cover HQ, artists, musicians, event venues and so many more potential collab partners.

>> No.73350333

>>73348852
>Noooo you can't just stop paying for something you're dissatisfied with, the NIJISISTERS will win!
wew lad

>> No.73350857

>>73350331
and chasing that would also kill a part of the en fanbase

>> No.73351578

>>73350331
>JP market is way bigger than EN one
So? They're in HoloEN
They don't have a Japanese audience, being in Japan won't change that
Irys and Mori don't have a Japanese audience, and Irys actually speaks Japanese properly

>> No.73351917

>>73351578
I think they sell pretty well on merch in japan though. They also really could use 3D very, very well, so I'm excited for them to have access to the studios. They're both very active and can do a LOT with body language.

>> No.73351972

>>73351917
They want to be idols but they're not actually very good at music or dancing

>> No.73352063

>>73351972
That's the joy of vtubing. They can fix it in post.

>> No.73352832

>>73349894
Onii-chan...

>> No.73352979

>>73352063
It's also like half the point of being an idol. The growth is the fun.

>> No.73353206

>>73352979
You don't "grow" into being talented
It made sense for Bae's career to move to Japan because dancing is her talent

>> No.73353338

>>73353206
fucking cope
i would rather take FWMC than 10 Bae

>> No.73353423

>>73353338
>fucking cope
>posts cope

>> No.73353429

>>73353338
Unless you're a trueborn Japanese you're not getting a thing. They don't care for you.

>> No.73353466

>>73353338
I'd rather have them both and they collab in 3D. Bae could teach the dogs how to shake their hips more sensually.
or to have Aki teach them both.

>> No.73353790

>>73343598
freegiftmemberchama

>> No.73353942

>>73353338
And yet there have been Bae mentions in almost every /baubau/ thread these last few months talking about how Bae handled her moving so much better than the twins.
Might as well call it /baebau/ if ruffians are that unhappy with their oshis.

>> No.73354159

>>73353942
>Bae mentions in almost every /baubau/
yeah it's called a raid

>> No.73354196

>SMILE STATUS
UNPROTECTED

>> No.73354267

>>73336146
I'm not gonna lie, I'm still not listening to you. Maybe if you set up an onlyfans sister, but don't get your hopes up

>> No.73354357

>>73336146
>how can they say fake things in a fake voice with fake personality?
It's almost like they had divided loyalties.

>> No.73354519

>>73351578
>They don't have a Japanese audience
Watch streams you insufferable shitposter. Also the point is GROWING the JP audience.

>IRyS and Mori
lol
1) they do have Japanese audience, even if it's smaller than one might ignorantly think, you retarded nijinigger who can't even spell IRyS' name properly, let alone ever watching her to see her chat. Mori has a lot of fans in Japan
2) just because they can speak Japanese doesn't mean they will be super attractive to all Japanese people.
FuwaMoco have completely different vibe from IRyS and especially Mori, they're able to resonate with Japanese better. You can't use IRyS and Mori as indicators of certain failure by FuwaMoco, all you're showing is you don't watch or understand any of them.

>> No.73354637

>>73354519
dude IRyS literally has a JP soulmate. she is Japanese in all but the branch she is in

>> No.73354649

>>73354196
To be fair most of you cunts haven't genuinely smiled since you were infants.

>> No.73354682

>>73354519
Out of all the three mentioned, Irys vibes the most with JP / has the biggest JP audience
And it's still fucking tiny compared to her EN audience, because she's HoloEN
There is no JP audience to grow, it doesn't work like that

>> No.73354710

>>73354196
Try using better toothpaste then, sister.

>> No.73354750

>>73344721
Now apply this to every Niji anti thread and suddenly you don't think leaving is a valid option.

>> No.73354753

>>73353942
>Bae mentions in almost every /baubau/ thread these last few months talking about how Bae handled her moving so much better than the twins.
What kind of shitposting is this?

>> No.73354761

>>73354637
IRyS is a white woman first and foremost.

>>73354682
Wrong.

>> No.73354780

>>73354682
IRyS has a massive JP audience, and it's still growing. that's why her birthday 3D was in JP time and why she didn't invite any EN guest. that's why she declined to join Mori birthday 3D, but joined Flare instead

>> No.73354817

>>73354761
>no arguments

>> No.73354858

>>73354682
You are retarded. FWMC can collab with koyori and beat her CCV during JP timeslot. IRyS gets her ass handed to her by flare.

>> No.73354860

>>73354761
she is literally Japanese newfag. not a single drop of disgusting mutt blood in her vein

>> No.73354869

>>73354682
>There is no JP audience to grow, it doesn't work like that
You're so fucking stupid. Of course there is an audience to grow. FuwaMoco get shitload of subs every time they collab with JP senpai. JP collabs will accelerate now that they're in Japan. Every time they talk a bit in Japanese, whole chat suddenly turns JP because otherwise silent JP viewers speak up.

>> No.73354892

>>73354858
The CCV of one particular stream is meaningless

>> No.73354915

>>73354860
I'm talking about attitude retard, I don't care about doxshit.

>>73354817
I already provided lots of arguments before. You however never provided a single one.

>> No.73354978

>>73354869
FuwaMoco get a shitload of subs because they're new. Nothing that's happened to them is any different to any other HoloEN member, and no HoloEN member has a significant Japanese audience including FuwaMoco

>> No.73355034

>>73354915
Your arguments are you think it's going to happen because they have a "different vibe"

>> No.73355103

>>73354978
>Nothing that's happened to them is any different to any other HoloEN member
Your lies are way too desperate.

>> No.73355176

>>73355103
Try watching other HoloEN members

>> No.73355185

>>73355034
It's a fact that they have a different vibe which means it's retarded to treat situations of these different streamers exact same way. Anyway, there was a lot of of other arguments too but i guess you're too retarded to consider more than one thing at a time. Doesn't change the fact you never provided a single argument.

>> No.73355239

>is there a JP audience?
yes. big one
>can FWMC tap into it?
no. they aren't Japanese, they do not know what JP is like. watching anime and screaming in high pitched voice doesn't make one Japanese
>well then who can?
IRyS. she is literally Japanese, has been living there for close to a decade. she understands its culture, understands its people. she is the closest to JP in the entirely of EN

>> No.73355253

>>73355176
You never watched any Holo EN member judging by how wrong you are.

>> No.73355255

>>73354858
Irys is getting paid to play splatoon with her legalwife, idk if you can call that getting your ass handed to you

>> No.73355296

>>73355185
NTA but ultimately they are who they are and that is enough to slow them down.

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>>73354978
I don't know if they plan on getting a japanese audience, but if they do, I am 98% sure that their way of "doing japanese streams more often" is just to go back to 3-5 streams in a day once a week at the absolute most without sacrificing any english streams at all.
If there's anything they've taught me about themselves in these 7 months, it's that if the choice is between leaving someone behind or supporting someone new, they're just going to work twice as hard to keep both.

>> No.73355384

>>73355239
>no. they aren't Japanese, they do not know what JP is like.
Watch streams. They lived in Japan for 1.5 years and talked about it multiple times. They consume pretty much exclusively Japanese media and don't limit themselves to just anime like your retarded lying ass implies, they go for full wide experience with following personalities, variety shows and so on.

>> No.73355412

>>73355185
It's retarded to assume FuwaMoco will somehow do what none of the other EN members did for no other reason than "they're different"
If anything Irys would have the biggest chance of appealing to the Japanese because she actually has JP friends and the JP audience likes her, but her audience is still EN

>> No.73355469

>>73355384
>They consume pretty much exclusively Japanese media
Wow, that means they're Japanese!
lmao

>> No.73355521

>>73355296
What do you mean? Leaning too hard into kayfabe? I could see that being a factor.

>It's retarded to assume FuwaMoco will somehow do what none of the other EN members did for no other reason than "they're different"
They've been doing that every single day since debut though? It's retarded to think they won't be different.
IRyS debuffed herself hard with translating every sentence to JP and EN. Theory was being welcoming to both audiences but reality is such practice alienated most of both audiences.

>> No.73355580

>>73355469
That's such a garbage retort, sister. Shittiest strawman i've seen all day.

>> No.73355581 [DELETED] 

>>73355384
IRyS used to sing for an idol group in Japan, alongside Yozora Mel
feel free to report me for dox shit

>> No.73355603

>>73355580
Imagine thinking that watching Japanese media makes you Japanese

>> No.73355642

>>73355412
>If anything Irys would have the biggest chance of appealing to the Japanese because she actually has JP friends and the JP audience likes her
Fubuki mama asked people to recommend EN to watch. https://twitter.com/lemon_mito/status/1769570109755122063

250 people responded. More than half of them recommended FWMC. The ranking goes FWMC > Bae > Mumei > rest of EN.

>> No.73355675

Why do sisters seethe so hard at FWMC?

>> No.73355696

>>73355603
You're repeating your shitty strawman after being called out? Wow, that's lazy. Malfunctioning bot response.

>> No.73355703
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73355703

>>73355642
Mumei? Why Mumei? I love her dearly but... Mumei?
Is it because she's such a good singer?

>> No.73355765

>>73355642
>hearsay
All that matters is the currency of the people giving them money
Ask English speakers who to watch, maybe they'll say Pekora or Marine, do they actually watch them themselves? Unlikely

>> No.73355797

>>73355581
And how is that relevant? It has no effect on her streams. But thanks for taking off the doxshitter mask. You nijiniggers are all the same. Always resorting to dox when you're too angry that nobody is buying your lies.

>> No.73355836

>>73355521
>What do you mean?
That it's pointless to argue about things that are well known for those that look. Either way it's going to happen and come out and then you can pretend you always figured it was like that.
>Leaning too hard into kayfabe? I could see that being a factor.
Nope. Probably the opposite end of that. They definitely did not plan to be your retarded demon guard dogs forever.

>> No.73355847

>>73355703
Nips like her voice.

>> No.73355897

>>73355703
Mumei is very cute.
Retards in this thread don't understand basic thing. It doesn't fucking matter if you can speak Japanese.
Just like it didn't matter for EN fans who watched Fubuki or Korone that they don't speak English.

>> No.73355909

>>73355603
>>73355696
I bet if there was hypothetical media of them on a Japanese variety show they would be treated like any other gaijin.

>> No.73355920

>>73355897
EN fans only watched JP because it was all they had
Now most EN fans just watch EN

>> No.73355976

>>73355765
>All that matters is the currency of the people giving them money
IRyS biggest superchat stream is 2.8M yen. The nips gave her 200k Yen. FWMC biggest superchat stream is 3.8M yen. The nips gave them 600k yen.

>> No.73356018

>>73355976
That's meaningless, you need to average all of them out

>> No.73356138

>>73356018
And I am supposed to trust you that IRyS has more yens compared to FWMC?

>> No.73356215

>>73336146
In two weeks the nijisisters be like: 'See we told you ruffians that they abandoned you! For the past 2 weeks, they streamed just 7 times a week! In the past they would stream 10 times! It's so over...'
Is really sad to see the desperation...

>> No.73356305

>>73356138
No, I don't know that either, FWMC might have more
But it's still not really indicative of growth potential. You need to build a meaningful connection to the audience as a streamer, or release some popular music or something. If FuwaMoco start regularly streaming in Japanese, it's going to piss off their EN audience
No vtuber across any branch has really cultivated two audiences. They're either EN or JP

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>>73356018
In that case it's even worse. They barely get anything in yen compared to USD and CAD/AUD.
They only get an okay yen ratio when they're doing JP only stream, and even then a lot of it is still USD, and it's far less than normal since they haven't explicitly developed that fanbase yet.
This split is from their stream welcoming them back in Japan. Their other streams are roughly the same ratio.

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>>73355836
>That it's pointless to argue about things that are well known for those that look.
Kind of, yeah. On the other hand, that's what we do on the internet, isn't it?
I'd like to know what do you qualify as slowing down though. They're still going quite strong and I think they will blast past the 1M subscribers easily which is a feat that CouncilRyS took years to accomplish. They're still gaining lots of subs in their least active period and it's bound to accelerate once JP collabs ramp up and they get a chance to participate in more Hololive events.

>They definitely did not plan to be your retarded demon guard dogs forever.
Interesting that you're so confident about this belief. I cannot agree, FuwaMoco aren't the type to put in so much effort into something only to abandon it later. If this kayfabe is what they chose and maintained since debut, they will want to maintain it for a lot longer too.

>> No.73356484

>>73355836
>>they definitely did not plan to be your retarded demon guard dogs forever.
Critical information doko

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73356596

See you later nijifags and phasekeks!

>> No.73356601

>>73356305
It absolutely is. They have more yen already and they will be more appealing to JP audience in the future. It's only natural to expect their JP audience will grow.
Their situation is completely different from IRyS who has been around for years and stagnated long ago. They're still on the rising tide and second wind is coming their way.

>> No.73356718

>>73356426
WTF dogs are so close to Fauna already.

>> No.73356756

>>73356601
>It's only natural to expect their JP audience will grow.
No it's not, because no vtuber has cultivated multiple fanbases, and there's no reason to believe they will either
The fact that they're growing and Irys isn't has nothing to do with this

>> No.73356780

>>73356426
>On the other hand, that's what we do on the internet, isn't it?
Not if you have the wrong opinion or say the wrong thing. People can figure things out for themselves though, or fail to understand, and usually you can't make people understand. Just sit back and let it play out.

>> No.73356873
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73356873

>>73356596
WHAT
HOLY SHIT. Thank god! I somehow missed that in the last stream in the last few minutes.
We're so back, baus.

>> No.73356955

>>73356756
>No it's not, because no vtuber has cultivated multiple fanbases, and there's no reason to believe they will either
There is no other vtuber like FuwaMoco. Holo JP but in EN. That's the reason to believe they will manage to do it. Their whole journey is all about doing the impossible and they're right in the process of achieving it. It is happening in front of your eyes but you're refusing to see it. But it's fine. You can only be a non-believer for so long.

>The fact that they're growing and Irys isn't has nothing to do with this
Peculiar take.

>> No.73356977 [DELETED] 

>>73356426
Do you mean the 2024 debut announced in early summer last year?

>> No.73356998

>>73336146
pulling this shit before even their 1st anniversary, amazing. it took Gura minimum 2 yrs to groom her chumbuds to accept her antics unconditionally. I expect the dogs to tuck tail back to California once they reach low 4 views

>> No.73357003

>>73356426
I've spent so long not looking at the dogs numbers and just watching the streams that I had no idea they were so close to 800k again already. I would've sworn that they slowed down their growth, but looking back at the footage, they had nearly 13k people watching today for nearly the entire stream. They're doing fantastic and I'm so happy for them and for their future. They've been trying to be idols for so, so long, and Yagoo has finally given them the exposure they needed. Bless hololive.

>> No.73357057

>>73356756
>because no vtuber has cultivated multiple fanbases
Yes, her name is called Same-chan. Who the fuck do you think was in the queue at Sendai's aquarium.

>> No.73357066

>>73356955
>There is no other vtuber like FuwaMoco. Holo JP but in EN.
The most HoloJP in EN is Irys
>Their whole journey is all about doing the impossible
What is this cringe I'm reading
Nothing they've done is impossible, they got the golden Hololive ticket and they're successful

>> No.73357112

>>73357057
The vast majority of Gura's fans are EN just like every other EN member

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73357115

>>73356998
>I expect the dogs to tuck tail back to California once they reach low 4 views
Sorry nijifags.

>> No.73357134

>>73357066
>they got the golden Hololive ticket and they're successful
kek, another mask off moment

>> No.73357180

>>73357134
what does that mean? You think being in Hololive doesn't guarantee success?

>> No.73357201

>>73357112
Surely that's why she's queen of VOD views.

>> No.73357273

>>73357180
Irys...

>> No.73357295

>>73357180
Only dishonest fucks like nijiniggers, phasecucks, twitchfags or seething 2views would use the argumentation you're using. Doesn't matter which one of those you are, we know you're just shit stirring cancer.

>> No.73357298

>>73357115
let see how that ages in 6 months sister

>> No.73357314

>>73357180
Sanners...

>> No.73357352

>>73357298
>sister
Nice try nijifag.

>> No.73357360

>>73357298
Oh no, they're gonna start breaking into 20k viewership in 6 months.

>> No.73357365

>>73357298
>two more weeks

>> No.73357392

>>73357352
you’re in a cult get help

>> No.73357401

>>73357295
The only vtuber company I watch is Hololive
If you think being in Hololive doesn't guarantee success, you are a delusional moron. Even Niji-tier vtubers like Nerissa and Kiara can be successful in Holo

>> No.73357410

>>73357298
Two more weeks! Two more weeks!

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>>73357180
Some people crumble even if they get all the attention in the world, and others fly like a dokibird.
>>73357298
in 6 months they're more likely to be at 20k than 2k just because they're so consistently family friendly.

>> No.73357483

>>73357401
Nice try nijinigger.
No Hololive fan would dismiss efforts of Hololive girls by saying they achieved nothing special and simply got lucky by getting into Hololive and immediately succeeding. Kill yourself, pathetic falseflagger.

>> No.73357489

>>73357413
those people werent in hololive

>> No.73357520

>>73357401
>Even Niji-tier vtubers like Nerissa and Kiara
Fuck off sister.

>> No.73357537

>>73357413
Can't make this up.

>> No.73357542

>>73357483
If you get into Hololive, you are extremely lucky, and you will be successful if you're a lazy fuck like Gura or if you work hard like FuwaMoco. To deny this makes you delusional

>> No.73357625

>>73357542
if you're actually lazy and not worth your salt in hololive, you wouldn't have gotten into hololive in the first place.

>> No.73357632

>>73357542
Such dishonest argumentation. You completely deflected from initial points into your shitty rhetoric. I'm not falling for that, nijinigger.

>> No.73357638

>>73357542
Most anons are in fact delusional idiots. More news at 11.

>> No.73357742

>>73357625
NTA but the minimal effort to be a 2 view is pretty minimal.

>> No.73357753

>>73357625
>if you're actually lazy and not worth your salt in hololive, you wouldn't have gotten into hololive in the first place.
Gura
Ame

>>73357632
You changed the topic, not me

>> No.73357893

>>73357753
Deceitful cunt. I was talking about what FuwaMoco are doing and what are they going to achieve and you turned it into a shitpost about Hololive logo. Kill yourself.

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>>73357753
>worth your salt
>Gura

Riku is still searching for a Gura. Wishes he had one; they wouldn't be in this financial mess. Guranium and Sushiro collab would have helped meet Q3 and Q4 expectations.

>> No.73358041

>>73357893
Do you have a mental illness or something? All I said was Hololive makes you successful, which is obviously true to anyone with a brain and not a slight against anyone

>> No.73358128

>>73357893
People always attack the dumb pledge because FWMC aren't authentic and don't really care. What people forget is that ruffians don't even smile or have happy days, they're always seething, always looking for drama, always trying to get angry about stuff, always searching the catalog. But I guess it makes sense they don't care that FWMC aren't authentic either.

>> No.73358255

>>73338399
They literally have streamed 3 of the last 4 days and are streaming tomorrow from their new home. You absolute faggot

>> No.73358308

>>73358128
>because FWMC aren't authentic and don't really care
Proof next thread, right sister?

>> No.73358310

>>73357483
Jesus dude are you 15? They're just streamers in a company. You're allowed to dislike some of them.

>> No.73358352

>>73349267
God forbid they thank their fans individually

>> No.73358410

>>73350137
They've lived there before

>> No.73358445

>>73357753
2views seething about holo always make my day

>> No.73358551

>>73357542
The seething about nijiniggers and bringing it up at any non positive observation about hololive is getting insane. Holo absolutely guarantees success. No one cared about the twins and many other holos prior to being in hololive. That’s what some people like about it though.

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>>73358128
>they don't know about the second, secret pledges as well, which they have also upheld flawlessly
They are absolutely 100% authentic hololive-branded demon dog twin idols.
And in a few days, they will be back in action with a brand new home, and you'll just have to seethe all alone wondering why fans don't flock to you if you treat them like shit.

>> No.73362293

>>73336146
Ruffians were warned and they didn't listen. Honestly, they deserve it because of how fucking obnoxious they've been. Literally the worst fanbase on this board.

>> No.73364971

>>73344338
Kek

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>>73344448
It's outdated, here is the new one.

>> No.73367765

>>73336146
>I FUCKING TOLD YOU.
damn we shouldve listened omigawd

>> No.73367800

>>73336146
Are they even done moving?

>> No.73367810

>>73336146
Doesn't matter. We love pickme girls here. All is forgiven. They did nothing wrong so seethe more sister

>> No.73367874

>>73342180
Shitty stalls have the best food no matter the country, anon.

>> No.73367961

>>73343598
>men are unloyal and will drop their oshi when they aren't trendy anymore
I guess these dogs are out of style for you huh? Typical male behavior.

>> No.73368054

>>73345511
>just shut the fuck up and love your oshi without pitting them against everyone else
But >we love drama here. It's not enough to just watch streams. We must all fight about petty things like nviews over anime pngs playing video games. Yes I am mentally well.

>> No.73368067

We won.

>> No.73368309

>>73336146
My smile don't feel very protected. Not daijobou

>> No.73369513

>>73365883
Kickeldikek

>> No.73370857

>>73348735
Poor ruffians. Doomed to the eternal "the good old days". Just like chumbuds remembering when Gura streamed, or teamates remembering when Ame loved them, or saplings remembering when Fauna didn't see them only as customers, or kronies remembering when Kronii valued their opinion on anything.
They'll never have it as good as they used to, but they'll refuse to believe they were swindled and will continue to pretend to like the new normal all HoloEN fall into is perfectly fine.

>> No.73371997

>>73336146

>> No.73373327

>>73336920
That's a nijisister larping as a ruffian.

>> No.73373335

>>73336146

>> No.73373461

>>73336146
I'll be expecting your seppuku video when they resume FWMC morning.

>> No.73373552

>>73349601
KEK good job at outing yourself as a nijitranny.

>> No.73374417

>>73336146
I'm more lenient towards FWMC compared to other holos,

They worked their ass off before they decided to move. Even if it takes them awhile to resume FWMC morning even after moving to the new dog house, I do not mind at all.

>> No.73374549

>73370857
Surely this will bring milord back to do rape ASMR just for you, sister. Maybe he'll even throw scat and snuff as a treat!

>> No.73374838

>>73336430
Thank you low res migoposter

>> No.73376162

>>73343598
you paid for something? Are you talking about members only streams?

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