/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>Sayu vs Doki
nice try sis

>>73330933
Sayu collab begging is hilarious honestly. Doki barely knows who the fuck she is while Sayu has been trying to leech off her since Feb.

>>73333785
Doki's numbers have almost dropped to Sayu's level

>>73333844
Kill yourself.

>>73330933
She needs to inner peace, god, anything to help her move on. Yeah, she was wronged, as the other members, but the branch is now a shadow of it's former self, and the repercussions of their actions are yet to come at full force. Why is attracting the morbidly curious her seemingly only path? Hopefully she'll see her faults and try to truly start over.

>>73330933
Then tell chat to stop asking rerarded questions.

Also, at the very fucking least post the clip if you're gonna be a clipnigger.
https://youtu.be/agobK2f9Fsw

>Sayu backstabs Zen after collaboration
>Sayu reveals her apology to Nina was a PR stunt
>Sayu associates with the grifters
And she's collab begging for Doki? Doesn't she know that would have been a week 1 collab if Doki actually wanted to talk to her? Or is she just trying to pressure her? What a dumb bitch

>>73330933
She answered a question. Fuck off. Sorry my streamer actually reads and pays attention to chat and is too damn honest to not bite bait.

i still support sayu but this shit is so fucking annoying

>>73335604
>>73336151
Is it feasible for her to wrangle her chat?

>>73334229
>oh my gosh
>She should realize her fault
clip watcher and a nijisister next thing you know you might even be the one that shit on scarle for eating cake, claiming she should realize her mistake and apologize.

>>73336327
No call to defend Zion

>>73336298
Trust me, we're trying, but sayu's a willful beast. She's still made a fuckton of progress over the last several months. I was honestly terrified that she'd have another menhera rant recently, but she managed to handle everything calmly and safely to answer questions without dwelling on anything emotional.
She's shown serious self improvement, and all of the new sincroknights show it.

>>73330933
>>73334229
>>73336018
>>73336231

>>73336018
>>Sayu backstabs Zen after collaboration
what did she do?
>>Sayu associates with the grifters
I hope you are not talking about the purple faggot

>>73333785
I didn't know that "I'm down to collab but I'm not going to ask her for it myself" is considered collab begging now

>Sisters get frustrated at getting bodied across the board
>Pull out old reliable shit on Sayu tactic
Do you retards ever get tired of doing the same shit every day?

>>73336537
2k CCV every stream proves otherwise

>>73336415
You're admitting to baiting anon? Is that it. How about I wish for all your friends to stab you in the back and make them all take a year to realize their wrongdoing but not apologize publicly, while you who were backstabbed would be forced to make an apology to them instead.

>>73336611
They have to distract everyone else from their retarded attempt at making Nijisister a racist slur, please understand

>>73336611
They're also currently shitting up /haha/ with a small tit vs large tit war.

>>73336537
At least 1000 every stream, often much more

>>73336611
There's an anon here replying to his own thread, the style of words they make to shit on sayu are too similar to ignore.

>>73336537

>>73336667
Sayubros?

>>73336832
Man, she's had a lot of short streams recently.

>>73336885
Come on sister, you make this way too easy

>>73336885
You know most of her fans are on twitch

>>73336688
No I just dont think the state of Israel is germane

>>73336977
her graphs are always hilarious to me.
The longer she goes, the more people she snowballs. It's scary how well she keeps raids and she's entertaining enough to keep them for hours.

>>73334060
>provides facts
>noooooo you can't do that noooo
Wtf

>>73333844
Nice try sister, has miload streamed on YouTube yet or is he still CN fujos exclusive white monkey?

This thread is deflection of the following:
>Doki reclaimed her Epic Games account stolen by Niji making them seethe in impotence.
>Aia hinted at graduating and reactivated her PL
>Scarle reactivated her PL after getting harassed by nijisisters over fucking Starbucks
>Ren has been doomposting on his PL.
>Kotoka is on an infinite "mental health" break and will most likely graduate
>Millie's outfit reveal being a flop
>MK tournament flopped, couldn't even beat Korone
>Rosemi's 3D debut being the worst in Niji history
>Vox fucked off to be a white monkey on bilibili like a bitch, still gets shit views
>Elira is hiding on collabs and pre-recorded content, the sun will explode before she actually streams on her channel.
>Luca shitshow and blatant favoritism, clear breach of contract yet still gets away with it.
>Play Button drama by le retard Claude "you could just fucking ask" Clawmark
>Hex yab comments about killing goldfish and dumping dead people's ashes "for fun", Zaion got fired for way less.
>Uki "White people scare me" Violeta
>The whole "We love artists" psyop when in reality Niji refused to pay many artists
>Virtual Rhapsody SEA concert is a glorified L2D Karaoke
>The concert is selling so badly they are removing purchase limits
>AR Colors rushed out and butchered a lot of footage due to graduated livers, fucked over Rosemi and Petra.
>3D showcases being rushed out before Q4 after being stalled for 2 years, will definitely flop
>The latest niji gen still can't get to 100k subs and almost never reach more than 3 finanas of CCV
>Stocks are stagnated and will fall once the sales ban is lifted
>Niji desperately spamming Iluna and XSoleil merch to get some scraps before the Q4 report

>>73336994
>Uses twitch's proven inflated numbers as a metric of success
Are Sayufags getting desperate?

>>73337116
I didnt realize she was so charming. I thought she mostly just played genshin impact

>>73337312
>inflated numbers
Proof?

>>73337312
Her youtube numbers alone are higher than most of your organs, sis. Might want to try a different tactic, numberfagging doesn't work too well for you.

>>73337324
She barely plays gacha once a week now

Sayu's worked very, very hard to get herself to this point, and it's reflected in her growth both as a person in her content, and as a streamer in her ever growing community.
Between Nov and Dec alone, she streamed for over 1000 active hours, barely sleeping or leaving her computer, which while clearly not healthy, is reflected in the massive amount of followers she gained in that period.

This thread is just sisters, numberfags and sayufags just jerking each other off huh

>>73337585
It's just one sister replying to herself as usual

>>73337324
Yeah, one of the first things she changed with her content after Niji was to stop playing gacha 24/7. She realized that while its' what she wanted to do, it's not what an audience wants her to do, so she shifted gears to more variety games and just sticks to one a week at most as a zatsu with gameplay for something to look at while she yaps. Unlike Finana, she doesn't ever really focus on the game itself with her conversations and is mostly just a chatterbox with chat who actively reads so quickly, she's able to keep up with not only her chats on both youtube and twitch, but also her collab partner's chats at the same time (which freaked the fuck out of Filian)

>>73337312
This is what inflated numbers looks like, sister

I hate the [Catalog]

>>73337363
>Twitch counts views even on people that don't have accounts
>Twitch counts chat bots as viewers
>Twitch takes time to update the amount of people who stopped watching
>Bots are way more used on Twitch than YouTube

Do number trannies really not know twitch is shit?

>>73338082
So no proof. Got it, thanks.

>>73330933
>inclines
Nah

The inability to let go

>>73338082
Sayu streams for 12-15 hours regularly.
Who the fuck is going to pay for 12 to 15 hours of bots to still be slightly below luca in raw numbers?

>>73337674
The stream idea of popping a watermelon with rubber bands was pretty weak though, Filian seemed bored out of her mind.
Maybe another collab will happen and they'll find something that works.

>>73334060
nigger

>>73340379
I agree, numbertrannies act like them.

>>73340270
To be fair, Sayu kinda fucked that one up since she didn't research how those things actually work. She picked a very tiny melon that wasn't overripe, and then she spread the bands out so that they hardly ever put on any pressure
She still made it entertaining either way.

>>73334060
>NOOOO don’t call me out that I already dropped Doki once the drama cooled down!!!!!
Go watch doki then faggot. It’s a literal fact that doki already had her 1st sub 5k ccv stream and it’s been 2 months. Imagine if she had just apex spammed instead of doing all the shit she did

>>73340732
>apextard
Opinion discarded

>>73339925
It's nijisister being retarded as always

>>73334060
what other metric do you measure success with faggot? should people not talk about baseball scores? should people not talk about tv ratings? box office revenue? It's literally the only way to compare how "good" someone is doing, what's wrong with that, exactly?

>>73341568
>found the Marvel and Star Wars cuck
I bet you also like nu-WoW and Overwatch

>>73336537
This but for homos

>>73341568
Because it doesn't matter how good they are if they don't give a shit about infinite growth. Doki and Sayu just need enough to make their fans happy with their content, and so far they've been doing great, while at the same time avoiding the headaches from working at Nijisanji. They don't need to be compared to anybody right now.

>>73341568
Outside of special circumstances, qualitative metrics are usually better. And while numbers have their place, fans who live or die by them are unwell

>>73330933
>>73335838
Sky, if you read this, you'll be getting a beating for being a dramafaggot.
>>73338082
>Twitch counts views even on people that don't have accounts
duh, it's not mandatory to have an account to watch a channel. maybe fuck off back to twatter where it is? you won't be missed anywhere else, sister.
>>73336582
because that's the phasecuck modus operandi. they've been seething at her ever since she refused "the offer".

>>73341865
she didn't refuse outright though. She just said that there are no plans right now and that she's going to continue being friends with the people she's friends with. She didn't even shoot it down completely and left it open.

>>73341766
come on, you know each and every one of these girls watches their numbers like a hawk. They all want to do better, they all see what sells and what doesn't. It's a business, they're not doing it for fun. It's their job.

>>73342802
Yeah, I agree, but at the same time the only numbers that matter is the ones you have now, the ones you have tomorrow, and whether or not you're satisfied with them.
Doki's been talking about how she has more than enough money to do everything she's wanted to lately, and because of that she's just churning out projects every single day to the point where it almost seems like a content farm with how much work she's organizing and completing quickly, which also allows her to better focus on her streams themselves and making them a fun, entertaining experience.
Sayu's doing roughly the same right now, but on a smaller scale.
I think right now the only numbers they actually care about are just trying to increase their network and form/become part of a stable friend group again.

>>73342779
Is that a problem?

>>73342779
>she didn't refuse outright though.
she did refuse joining that godforsaken corpo, even made a small joke about "muh coffee".
>and that she's going to continue being friends with the people she's friends with.
which has nothing to do with having to give up her business to join phase for far less money than what she earns now.

>>73334060
t.sister

>>73343335
Yeah, I don't know or care whether she joins or not. I'm going to support her either way, but if sayu wanted to say no, she would've said no. She doesn't really do the whole "implied language" thing very well.

sayufags i like your oshi and would love to see doki bully her but please stop being retards and collab begging for everyone everytime she talks with you guys. let her grow first and work on her actual content.

>>73337297
Scarle never deactivated her PL in the first place, and Elira is (allegedly) streaming on Friday.
Rest is spot on though. I suspect them pushing out the Iluna and Xsoleil merch is to rush all the stock they alreayd had in production before the upcoming mass graduation announcements start for those two waves.

>>73343335
>>73343586
She already said she's in talks with a lot of people. Assuming it's a catchall for not just sponsors and manufacturers, I'm sure she's in talks with several agencies. Phase is an obvious candidate, but I can see even Idol reaching out, as they certainly could use a big name like her. Hell, even small no-name corpos or brand new ones might be talking to her to try to lure her in with cuts better than Niji

>>73343815
>assuming
either wait for the vod or watch the clips here https://twitchtracker.com/sayu/streams/43973240251

>>73344087
sayu's graphs are always super nice to look at.
She's had some rough computer crashes recently, but it's really nice to see all of her effort paying off

>>73344327
honestly this is the best outcome, her fans watch her for her regardless of what she's doing
that loyalty is not easy to find

>>73344484
she's an absolute machine, and I love her for it and a lot of other things

>>73344484
the thing that always helps too is noticing that the longer she streams, the more people she keeps. She never seems to "fall off" as the night goes on. She just gets more and more eyes on her and she always lives up to expectations.
People have always really appreciated her once they get a chance to actually SEE her. It's just that most people don't want to or don't see her as anything more than a "weapon" against niji or as an "enemy" against niji instead of on her own merits.

>>73344327
>>73344484
>>73344724
>Muh Loyalty Cope

>>73344839
do you even have an argument, sister? or rather, show me on picrel where the cute cyber donkey hurt you!

>>73344839
don't forget the "she's mogging 80% of NijiEN" cope!

>>73344997
wait, she's a donkey girl?

>>73345125
mogging a bunch of 3 view nobodies isnt really a flex sister. not the sayufag’s fault your entire branch is a bunch of fraduelnt shit eaters

>>73344997
anon, she's not cute, she's evil and scary

>>73345319
evil, scary and very cute.

>>73345196
Not by choice.
Though she did eave it in a debut slide.

>>73345196
I think they were supposed to be more long fox-like ears? But ever since I saw someone say they're donkey ears I can't stop seeing that either.

>>73343510
wait what

we are american

NIJISEETHE

>>73333844
>>73334060
>>73336832
>>73340732
Honestly, I expected it to last longer like 20k ccv for first 6 months. I guess the drama thread spam wasn't sustainable. This is the power of niji talents and fans when they're not held back by corpo rules, huh?
At this rate she might need a retail job by the end of the year to pay for her streaming hobby.

>>73341766
Sayu has no fans. Everyone who watches her only watches her for the drama. Take the drama from her and everyone leaves.

>>73354181
20k ccv consistently is unrealistic without tapping into actual children or going full mainstream, which I don't feel is possible with her current resources.
Ideally though, she'll finish killing off all the drama tourists soon and then she'll be able to really, truly grow organically.

>>73354302
Keep telling yourself that and maybe one day you might actually believe it, sister.
Sayu's been growing and growing and growing, and it's because she's a sweet little comedian who works very hard at making her fans happy, an alien concept to a sister, I'm sure.

>>73354302
If she had no fans how did she get into NijiEN the numberfagging agency?

>>73354374
Drama is like literally scorching the earth. It's all a blaze with activity when it's kept going, but nothing is going to grow organically for a very long time after it's done. You have to understand she has just ruined her first impression to probably over a million potential new fans by now. That's the price of drama, and now it defines her, at least for the rest of this decade.

>>73354851
You keep saying that but it's clearly not true.
How many years before the drama buff wears off and you have to finally accept that people are actually watching and staying for her?
Hell, her simulcast youtube channel has a higher ccv than half of nijiEN now.

People care about Sayu outside of niji drama? This is a roastie who blogs about being divorced btw. I can't imagine there's a big market for this type of whore.

>>73354374
>20k ccv consistently is unrealistic without tapping into actual children or going full mainstream, which I don't feel is possible with her current resources.
And even then, only Gura has that feat in EN, no other Vtubers get that and then when you compare her to JP heavy hitters, she gets dwarfed herself

>>73354851
Holy Nijinig headcanon, Batman!

>73355141
yeah, it's called watching streams. You should try it some time.

>73354851
>Writing fanfiction again
This implies that drama is the only aspect to who she is. But as we all know sisters love the two more weeks into two more months cope

>>73354625
Xsoleil wave was Niji's "recruit Japanese women" wave.

>>73331932
That's one of you, dramatranny.
OP has a YouTube channel where he peddles drama and begs sisters for views but they report his videos instead

>>73357628
He can try, but in a landscape that is 1 drama to 10 Nijisanji incompetences, I dunno if it'll go anywhere...

>>73357836
He's a grifter not sure why you're defending him. The sisters even shat on him for his shilling

>>73354851
By that insane moon logic Nijisanji itself is even more screwed. Over half the internet knows it sorely as that overly corrupt company that almost drove one of its biggest earners into suicide.

>>73344327
>barely 300 ccv
>selen gets fired
>her dead drama is revived
>is somewhat vindicated
>is now a 2k streamer
doki saved this bitch

>>73363362
nice cope. She raised that shit herself from 300 to 700, with regular bouts of 2-3k+ for several hours after raids.
Ever since the dokibump it's raised to a natural 2.5k that snowballs depending on if she's raided or not, as people actually enjoy her content.
I know, it's hard to imagine enjoying somebody's content. Since Vox doesn't make any.

>>73330933
NO

>>73330933
No

Can you give her silver play button already anon. Maybe she will stop yapping

Sayu really makes people seethe doesn't she

>>73368698
She's doing well and Nijisisters hate that

>>73330933
How come no one ever blames the clipniggers that make these obvious bait clips?

>>73330933

>>73330933
seething nijisister

>>73330933

>sayu doing well
>sisters seething so hard they keep bumping their dead bait thread
all is right in the world.

>>73354181
>expected 20k average for a period of 6 months.
anon never thought about the number of EN chubas that managed to do that ever