/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

In jail for killing Mel.

>>73308966
Her saying "I didn't do it" and then fucking off for months is the funniest shit

i ated her

>>73309056
And also privating almost all membership streams. Niji and self reporting go together well.

>>73308966
>backstabs Zaion
>backstabs Selen
>backstabs Mel
She's probably a top level manager now.

>>73308966
mel trusted this bitch

>>73309056
Why did she even acknowledge it? That shit hadn't even broken containment at that point.
Is she retarded?

>>73309056
It really did make me slap my knee

>>73308966
holobronies needed to defend their ceo again after he fired yet another holo without providing a good explanation and she was an easy target for their harassment

thread reeks of sayufags

>>73309580
literally who

>>73309389
Nijisanji is known for compelling their talents to make public statements, even when they don't agree with the statements they're being forced to make.
There's no proof that she wrote that tweet of her own accord without any pressure or coercion, or even that she wrote that tweet at all.
Kotoka is stealth suspended, and will be terminated on or after May 1. They won't dare let anyone leave before the end of Q4.

>>73309389
>That shit hadn't even broken containment at that point.
yea it did

>>73309125
What happened between Mel and Kotoka

>>73310517
>Kotoka visits Mel for an offcollab
>Mel goes to have an idol meeting
>Kotoka is left alone at Mel's pc
>soon after Mel gets fired for leaking confidential information
I don't know, tell me

>>73310869
You forgot to mention that even Mel mentioned in her RM account that she made the mistake of trusting someone she thought was her friend
It all added up too perfectly.
And then the rrats reached Kotoka, she said it wasn't her and proceeded to vanish

>>73309909
>spoiler
Why would Anycolor fire her for killing a talent from their competitor?

>>73309455
>>73309580
>>73309599
NIJISEETHE

>>73311486
Because she did Cover a favor.

>>73309580
>Bringing out the convenient punching bag for the 2434th time

>>73311486
There will be World War 1 VTuber edition if it turns out Kotoka really is the culprit and the company endorses her, but in this war, Hololive will be the allies and Nijisanji will be Germany and Austria-Hungary

>>46551424
So are you purposefully ignoring this or what?

>>73309056
This board is a joke

She has 6 streams after Mel termination notice. One of them is a collab with fucking Hololive. Is Yagoo fucking stupid to let Towa collab with her if she is the Mel killer ? Fucking retards

>>73309455
After Rushia and the subsequent recent shit show with Michael Cat, I'll never doubt YAGOO's wisdom again.
I don't know if Kotoka had any involvement in this, but if Mel was terminated it was deserved.

>>73313535
She didn't have a choice, JP is a stickler for obligations the collab being one.

>>73313105
why would Hololive be the bad guys and Niji the good guys?

>>73308966
She threw Sayu under the bus and she got Mel fired. Fuck her.

Wait I thought it was just a meme, I can't believe she actually got Mel fired. I'm actually grateful to her for ridding us of another homocollaber

>>73313735
She couldn't become the vampire cocksleeve to Kuzuha. But became the vampire slayer to Mel.

>>73309036
>>73309056
>>73309125
>>73309157
>>73310869
>>73313735
>she is totally 100% the one who backstabbed Mel
Mel's recent follows beg to differ

>>73308966
Anon she graduated

>>73313105
Wow, you really think niggersanji would even have close to the honour of the Kaiserreich? If anything they would be Serbia. Gypsy behaviour would match

>>73311486
One of the bullet points will be going behind managements back to get better merch deals without approval by using outside information making management look incompetent.

>>73311190
>And then the rrats reached Kotoka, she said it wasn't her and proceeded to vanish
it was streisanded to fuck all, I didn't know people thought it was her until she went and said that out loud.
I know Mel kinda implied it wasn't her, but holy shit the self report.

>>73314830
I think it was just a bad effort at trying to get ahead of things and to avoid a repeat of the atmosphere that she had to deal with after Zaion.
Zaion had a gun fired live before an audience, the supposed Mel was merely an anti created smoking gun narrative which by Mel's own efforts should have been the end of it all.
But hey, when did /vt/ ever listen to the words and actions straight from the vtubers themselves rather than double down and dig their heads into the ground while repeating their narrative even louder and more forcefully.

>>73315099
>when did /vt/ ever listen to the words and actions straight from the vtubers themselves
I dunno, when Kotoka said she couldn't wish Zaion well, I guess

>>73308966
She's giving me daily titfucks. It's for her mental health

>>73314133
She's in the process of it

>kotokafags pretending to care about mel to defend kotoka

>>73313105
Germany were the good guys though

>>73315099
I listened to Vox "In my opinion it was not a form of harassment" Akuma

>>73308966
Scheming how to get Sayu killed.

>>73316205
>kotokafags
Those exist? She was averaging like 1 finana

>>73318443
It's just NDF.

Leaking information is ok if you don't get caught.

>>73318443
no, there have only ever been 3 types of fans of niji en girls: pomudachi, dragoons and leftover women who just click on everything niji. the 1st two are long gone at this point.

You stupid fuckling fucking retards did that to her. Both EN and JP jumped on her case over the Mel shit.
>>73309389
Yes it fucking did, her comment sections was a fuckfest of JP tards using it like a chat room. Genuinely fuck you people, this entire board should be nuked.

>>73309125
>backstabs Zaion
>backstabs Selen
Even if she really wasn't responsible for Mel, she still deserves all the shit she got for those other two.

>>73321722
The fuck does she have to do with Selen? She didn't even retweet the black screen tweet.

>>73309580
nijiniggers really are obsessed with that poor woman

>>73308966
contemplating about doing something after she realized that the 30 silver pieces (play button) are not worth the betrayal she did

>>73308966
She is hiding from the japanese kapumins looking for her with bloodlust in their eyes.

>>73308966
Permanent hiatus

>>73314069
Retard

Genuine question.
What would you have her do? If she addresses it and denies it, people would call her a liar. If she streamed as normal, then antis would get even angrier.

>>73328845
She already addressed and denied it and normal people believed her
Mel also continues to follow her.

>>73308966
Is she sever going to let go of her headphones or is her right hand glued onto them?

>>73315772
holy thigh squish

Also I don't trust Kotoka after the crap she pulled on Zaion. She even went all "I love Zaion! ILUNA will always be 6!" a full month before Sayu went on her menhera rant about how kotoka fucked her over

>Holofags harass until she up and says she has nothing to do with Mel being graduated
>Holofags take this as an admission of guilt and harass her more until she hides from the Internet for months

So instead of Holofags questioning what even was the leak and why it warranted an immediate termination with no leniency, they attack a Niji into hiding. Drama runs on a cycle

>73330376
>holofans care about Mel rather than the corporation's self image due to the amicable parting on both parties
>sisters harass suicide victims for not lying to save their company from itself.

She's probably getting sued into the ground by Cover and Mel. Kurosanji won't do anything for her so she's getting pimped out in Riku's dungeon.

>>73309389
It's because she actually did it, and liars often feel the need to say something or make a story up to keep suspicion off of them, when in reality, not saying anything would have been the better option.

>>73331045
She was fired. For something no one even knows happened. A singular fuck up resulted in death and if you cared about Mel, you wouldn't be harassing anyone in her name. Keep on trying to deflect faggot

Wouldn't Mel have made a statement already, or at least dropped a real hint that Kotoka was uninvolved by this point? It wouldn't stop the most hardcore of antis, but it'd get everyone else off her back since Kotoka never harassed Mel directly on stream with a "message."

>>73331541
I don't give a shit about either of them. I don't harass anybody, but I WILL call your bullshit out when it's so easily disprovable. Hell, Mel could've even dropped a dogwhistle like Mint did to instantly debunk any suspicion of bad blood. It would've caught on like wildfire. I wasn't even convinced Kotoka was related until I realized it's been THIS long and Rica still hasn't vindicated her.

>>73331559
>>73331684
What about her following Kotoka recently?

>>73331757
Got any actual proof of that? It'd dispel any rumors instantly, or at least dim them significantly.

>>73331813
Check her following list, Kotoka is close to the top.

>>73330376
>holofags
Today I will remind them

>>73329552
Then what is the point of this thread

>>73308966
Its damning that all the bad shit began when Kotoka popped up.
There was some occasional weirdness but timewise, it all went to shit for real when she joined Niji EN despite clearly being JP.

And look at that. Kotoka was active. Multiple talents left after she joined and all the same story and complaints.
Suddenly management wakes up with 3Ds, AR is back and Kart is back.
This chick was the connection to JP and all the fuck ups.
Fucking screencap this.

>>73331892
Yeah I can't find shit. Kotoka's PL seems to be pretty well hidden, unlike someone like Mint or Dokibird, and I really don't care enough to search through 751 twitter profiles when I'm still going to dislike her for what she did to Sayu anyways. I think Rica will need to be slightly more obvious than that if it's going to be disproven.

>>73332363
>least schizophrenic anon

>>73332363
>the connection to JP
Are you meaning you think all the accusations against Elira being shadow management should have actually been made against Kotoka instead?

>>73332486
I am talking about the Kotoka acc. Not much scrolling to do to find it, like I said it is pretty high up there which means she followed her recently. She was also following Kotoka's PL this whole time.

>>73332625
Then what is Kotoka guilty of? Offing Zaion?

>>73332506
What a twist!

>>73332681
Being a venomous snake leaping on her when it's convenient to get sob story pity points, but then pretending like everything's fine and that she always believed in her 3 months later when it's convenient, while the actual person is still struggling with the harassment emboldened by her first actions.

>>73332681
kotoka is getting harassed by both holocucks and nijinigs so she took a complete break from social media
honestly deserved though. slimy bitch is getting a taste of her own medicine

>>73332681
The only non rrat/confirmed thing is the stream she did after Zaion's termination where the worst thing she said was something along the lines of "I can't wish her well, for now, maybe in the future". But with what we know about Anycolor now (and apparently some anons said they heard Slack massages going off during that stream) as well as her crying about the Zaion thing in a member stream a day after her statement, I feel like there is probably more to it than just her being a snake.

>>73332815
That wasn't the only time she talked positively about Zaion though as mentioned above.

>>73333092
Why would Sayu go on a menhera breakdown, naming her specifically, if Kotoka was being nice to her behind the scenes?
She's constantly talked about how she appreciates and understands if people can't say anything publicly but at least makes an effort to apologize in private, and yet this one woman was called out for her scumbag actions despite pretending as if they were still besties on her own channel?
And before you go "oh she's just a lying menhera who won't trust anyone," fuck off. She's forgiven far, far worse offenses than Kotoka, but for whatever reason, her bullshit stuck out.

>>73332486
>>73331813
>>73331684
>>73331559
>>73331207
>>73331077
>>73326872
>>73326789
>>73316205
Mel would be disappointed in all of you in pretending to fight on her behalf while attacking a friend of hers all this time.

>>73333246
oh, that's that then. Rrat debunked. Still doesn't make up for sayu, but it's weird the holofags haven't died down. I never see anyone /here/ talking about her.
I'll save this for later though if the mel/kotoka thing is brought up in the future.

>>73333245
I don't think she was nice to her behind the scenes, it seems more like she just didn't apologize (at least before that Sayu stream). Maybe she was too ashamed, maybe she tried but Sayu wasn't ready to accept it at the point or something.
>And before you go "oh she's just a lying menhera who won't trust anyone," fuck off.
No need to put words in my mouth, I like Sayu.

>>73333383
Ya, if you want to hate on her over Sayu then feel free. That is undeniable what she did on stream. The Mel stuff though, never proven and by Mel's recent actions this should be disproven now (the follow isn't a holdover that Mel forgot to remove, Mel added her in the past 2 days).

>>73333482
I think that's the most reasonable explanation for it that doesn't paint her as some kind of evil witch, but it's still confusing considering how ready Sayu is to confront people. She also clearly shows no ill will towards Doppio, Scarle, etc. who've shown support privately, so I can't understand why Kotoka would end up in this situation without her being really, really fucking stupid and anxious about even approaching her to the point where she just tried to ignore it for a full year until the guilt built up.

>>73333635
>I can't understand why Kotoka would end up in this situation without her being really, really fucking stupid and anxious about even approaching her to the point where she just tried to ignore it for a full year until the guilt built up.
She seems to be pretty menhera and arguably not particularly smart (e.g. her addressing the Mel thing which just led to Streisand effect), so I could see something like that being the case. Who knows what other shit she's going through as well, which is why I'm not a fan of this spreading dumb rrats shit (regarding Mel).

>>73333927
Yeah, me neither. It's why I get so annoyed at Ennaschizo for muddying actual real complaints with bullshit like "she has bad genes here's a clip."
If people do bad shit, they should be held to THAT, not random unrelated schizo shit that they weren't involved in.

>>73332506
Shadow management? I answer it with a question of my own.
Did you know that there is a interview on the Anycolor website with the founders of EN?
Funny little thing is, they specifically point out how there is more than one type of manager but let me put this out here.


>What kind of skills do you want in your staff?
>English proficiency is required, but there are no other special must-have skills.
>please feel free to apply, regardless of your educational or professional background.

The answer anon, is Sub Manager.

>>73333092
Doesn't matter how much she spoke well of Zaion, the initial damage was done. And also regardless of whatever good things she had to say, none of it got clipped and spread around so nobody really heard it. Plus the fact that it didn't cross her mind to apologize to Sayu directly at all for more than a year is pretty telling of her character and makes it seem like she at best was just trying to soothe her conscience.
In fact, having the audacity to say "Xsoleil will always be 6" without acknowledging how much suffering that group and company has caused Sayu is pretty disgusting. I mean look no further than Hex's latest display of hypocrisy. That shit rings so damn hollow

>>73334168
If you people think Main Managers do all the work, sorry to disappoint you.
Sub Managers handle the admin and paper work.
Plenty of them which are in no doubt japanese and with how stingy Anycolor is, it should come to nobodys surprise that in order to save money and hire someone new, they could just have a talent do it for them.
Cue in someone like Kotoka who is even bilingual and part of a new wave requiring a new sub manager to handle documentation.
Everything going wrong cause Kotoka is no trained manager and you have all the answers required to things beings delayed. Perm issue cause this too requires a certain amount of admin work. Why the EN AR event was off at first cause someone in admin fucked things up.
And again, now ever since Kotoka is inactive, things proceed smoothingly just how her arrival is when thing started to turn to real shit.

I rest my case. Whether you believe this or not, you are free to choose. I cannot make this choice for you but at least hope you find some consideration.

>>73315772
something tells me this is a man.

>>73335128
I already offered a potential explanation for why she didn't apologize (and considering Sayu's stream was a while ago, who knows if she tried to apologize since then). For me, her crying and speaking positively about Zaion literally the day after she made her statement goes to show that she still cared about her (you could say she only pretended to cry and just did it to save face or whatever, but that's too cynical for me).
It also makes it seem pretty likely that she was voluntold to do that statement. Keep in mind she's in Japan and has a fucked up contract.
Also this might be a bit of a stretch but her saying "can't wish her well, for now, maybe in the future" could be interpreted as her meaning that she is literally not allowed to do so as Kotoka, which goes in line with AC's M.O.

>>73336010
The solution was simple
>Reach out to Sayu with non-Niji account
>Apologize but tell her that Anycolor cannot catch wind of this
Thus Sayu wouldn't have cried about being backstabbed by Kotoka and instead would have aired her other grievances like maybe Finana. It's just that simple but hey, apparently not simple enough for Kotoka

>>73336217
That's basically what Scarle and Doppio had to do.

>>73336217
Or Kotoka simply didn't care enough

>>73332117
Is this the same Rebecca who was a huge Mysta anti?

>>73336217
Yeah, I agree with that, but again as a not very smart menhera I could see her fucking that up. You're free to think badly of her for it and I wouldn't blame you for doing so, I'm just trying to bring up some stuff that usually gets ignored. People are very quick to label her a snake and act like she's pure evil which seems pretty weird to me. Usually life is not that black and white.

>>73314069
>>73333246
>>73333383
If you retards don't have a room temperature iq then you would've easily connected the dots on what this means
>Mel gets terminated after collabing with a known backstabber
>Rica/Mel unfollows Kotoka's RM
>Jp bros connected the dots and started blaming Kotoka for getting Mel terminated
>Kotoka addreses the issue even before the rrat gets known to the public
>Rica only followed Kotoka now after like 3 months even though she knew Kotoka was being blamed for her termination
This doesn't disprove that Kotoka didn't backstab Mel, in fact, this further proves it. If Mel/Rica doesn't really want people to suspect Kotoka then she wouldn't have unfollowed her in the first place, even a small interaction would've killed all the rrats. Rica following her now after 3 months just means they finally settled it behind the scenes.

>>73337136
True, but in the end it doesn't really matter as long as if Mel's doing damage control, that means she doesn't want Kotoka to take any heat for it.

>>73337136
Cool rrat, except Rica never unfollowed Kotoka's RM.
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/67218511/#67228128
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/67218511/#67228408

>>73337136
Rica's PL never followed Kotoka before, you retard

>>73337136
No it means Mel used her HL account to follow and interact with Kotoka, she never used Rica account to interact directly with major corpo vtubers until recently. Now why the wait? You would have to ask her but she followed around 15 vtubers from Nijisanji, Vspo, Neo-Porte and indies. Did she suddenly become friends with all of them just now or are they past connections that she only got around to adding now for some reason?

And even assuming the worst case as >>73337237 said, Mel's follow is a clear message to leave her alone with the betrayal narrative.

>>73337237
>>73337416
He's right though. Even if the unfollowing rrat isn't true, she still only followed her after 3 months despite knowing Kotoka was being blamed for the termination.
Them settling things after 100 days is the likely reason as to why she started following her now

>>73337416
>>73337455
>>73337592
Ok, nijisisters. Now explain to us why Rica didn't follow Kotoka sooner or even publicly interacted with her to kill the rrats.
Explain to us why it took her 3 months to follow Kotoka. I really want to know what these nijiniggers will come up with

>>73337595
I'd buy that if it was a solo follow all by itself but Mel following Kotoka was part of a wave of vtuber follows she did all of a sudden. She also followed Igarashi Rika, Ishigami Nozomi, Kuramochi Meruto, Lain Paterson and Suo Sango from Nijisanji at the same time as the Kotoka follow.

>>73337987
So there's even a possibility that the follow is not them settling things? Yikes

>>73337844
Why don't you explain why you're spreading lies about Rica unfollowing her and why she was following Kotoka's PL this whole time if Kotoka betrayed her?

>>73337844
Probably because Rica herself was full blown depressed mode and considering leaving vtubing/streaming altogether as she mentioned in her return stream. She may have a bit of guilt over the delay at a later date but she had so much shit being thrown at her herself that she seemed to not have the time to think about others.

You remember that JP anti who mocked Mel for using her cat as an excuse? The one that got 12 million views on twitter? Mel was getting shit on just as much as Kotoka at the time. They were both suffering and probably were prioritizing themselves.

>>73335817
https://njav.tv/en/v/fc2-ppv-4281444
The girl who cosplayed her in the porn has an almost identical voice

>>73337844
>Rica unfollowed Kotoka!
>Ok, so she never followed Kotoka. But why start following now!
Because she didn't want to garner attention to the retarded rrats? You're still a retard. How exactly does Rica following Kotoka prove Kotoka did it?

>>73338118
You are automatically assuming there is a fire to begin with.

>>73338349
Are you retarded? What do you mean didn't want to garner attention? Everyone that isn't a nijinigger like (you) was already associating Mel's termination with Kotoka.
Following and interacting with Kotoka a lot earlier would killed the rrats. It would've been proof that there's no bad blood between them, it would've stopped people from harassing Kotoka. Why can't your nijinigger brain understand that?
If Rica following Kotoka now is proof that there's really no fire then why wait 3 fucking months after the damage has been done.

Both Mel and Kotoka were being attacked by JP antis heavily at the same time. The most prominent one going after Mel went viral and nearly got as many likes as Mel's own explanation.

>>73338887
If you knew anything about Mel, you would know she is nonconfrontational to the extreme that its a negative. Its quite possible they discussed things privately and decided mutually to lay low and let things pass rather than confront it directly.

>>73339259
Sounds like you don't know anything about Mel. Mel would've definitely interacted with Kotoka to help kill the rrats if there really was nothing.
Mel always tell her fans if there was something wrong. Just like when she told everyone that she was getting harassed by someone years ago

>>73339884
Just like how she immediately got on top of dealing with her stalker manager and not wallow in misery for months until her dramatuber friend told her to stop being passive and lawyer up and to go after both her stalker AND Cover?

>>73333383
With her being so close to the top it can just mean if she was responsible Mel has decided to forgive her and knowing what I know of Mel that falls in line with her good nature.

>>73339144
That's to be expected from the jp nijiniggers. They're the same faggots that harassed Aloe for "making niji sound like a black company" to the point where she and her parents had to move places and her attempting to take her own life.
People always say that the nijisisters are the worst fanbase, but in reality both niji's jp and en side are equally horrible.

>>73340117
Nice revision, sister. You should add it to your wattpad

>>73340235
sure, but it really doesn't change how people should be acting. If Mel clearly wants there to be no harassment, it sounds like people should let it die rather than continuing to press the issue.

>>73338323
It is an odd cosplay choice too if it isn't her, like how popular is she with the jp audience? I could see maybe like Pomu or Petra but some nobody from one of the later gens seems unlikely.

>>73313105
>Vox is in China
Niji will do a Nanking Massacre 2

Niji should also debut a NijiPH to imperialize the Philippines with elitist Flip halfus (Jap/Flip or Gook/Flip) who hate their filipino blood.

>>73340780
That can't be right. Voice imitation shouldn't be that hard for girls in that industry, right?
I'm not a good judge since I never really watched her to begin with, and I don't like censored porn.

>>73340708
Yeah at this point I just hope for the best for Mel and to maybe eat a little more. But still say fuck that >>73339144 bastard in the image.

>>73337237
This this this

or a psyop

>>73340780
She has a decent JP fanbase, she's collabed with numerous JP Nijis, Vspo girls, and other Vspo-adjacent YouTubers like Haseshin. A gyaru is an obvious pick for an AV no matter what though

>>73308966
who?

>>73337136
is it one of anikara policies to only hire two-face?