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Why did they fail?

>> No.73260525

>>73260317
not gay enough

>> No.73261118

gay4pay victims always crash and burn.

>> No.73261511

>>73260317
Because they dont know how to tard wrangle their fanbase

>> No.73261563

>>73260317
Vox didn't suck off China hard enough, Niji had to force him into it.

>> No.73262140

They needed more rape and dicksucking asmrs, while also not pesting over the female niji organs

>> No.73262241

>>73260317
They were boring

>> No.73262278

>>73260317
Yo mama joke

>> No.73264510

>>73260317
>elirasimp, cant stop drinking her piss
>retarded sexpest
>manwhore
>faggot
>inoffensive nobody
Gee I wonder why

>> No.73264696

>>73260317
The non meme answer is that vox had a MAJOR yab in February of last year that pretty much halved the views of the entire branch overnight because it made a lot of Chinese fujos fuck off.

>> No.73264747

are they comparable to homoen now?
since half of them got the homo numbers.

>> No.73264842

>>73264747
I think the HomoEN guys are in a far better position. The two weak links were purged.

>> No.73265018

>>73260317
Hanamori nepohire.
Sexpest who most likely used dirty tricks in auditions.
Mysta was genuinely retarded.
A harasser who alienated his viewers and has a history of trying to fiddle minors.
Ike is just there and has no personality of his own.

There is no team synergy. No actual connection. Most obvious thrown together wave in EN.

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>>73260317
The Chinese are a very fickle audience

>> No.73269355

>>73260317
they took the mandate of heaven for granted

>> No.73269629

>>73260317
live by the fujos, die by the fujos

>> No.73270348

>>73260317
>Mysta, Luca and Vox were the blatant top dogs whilst Ike and Shu just felt as if they were "there to simply fill out the roster"
>Ike, while seemingly a likeable guy through the minuscule clips he appears in, has always felt like a "Exists to exist" kind of guy. Most likely will keep his head down, do nothing and just wait to the rest of EN implodes before fading into irrelevancy
>For Shu, I literally know nothing about him. Except for collabs, I can't even think of any particular clip channels doing anythat showed off any of his solo content
>Mysta is now gone
>Luca has been revealed to be an extremely lazy cunt that will most likely disappear into hard irrelevance once his apparent laziness kicks in before eventually leaving streaming altogether as a whole
>Vox will remain relevant even if he were to leave Niji. An extreme fag due to his gaybaiting asmr shit.
Good luck with the bugmen Vox. You'll fucking need it before they eventually eat you alive.

>> No.73270362

>>73261118
Kuzuha is still really big. These retards just fumbled their way to success for a while, carried by their circumstances, but they simply didn't have what it takes to be at the top or remotely close to it.

>> No.73270480

Did they really even fail? They clearly only have a fraction of the popularity that they once had, but I don’t know if I’d call chuubas who usually hover around 4view failures.

>> No.73270612

>>73264696
what happened?

>> No.73270698

>>73270612
"Anti-CCP comments" or "Anti-Chinese comments". Think he said something that made sense as a westerner, but because it referenced China than the bugmen took offense and ran over 50% of his viewer base in rage

>> No.73270871

>>73270612
Don't listen to this guy: >>73270698
The real answer can't be discussed here. The fujos found out about something that happened to him irl. It somehow affected all of luxiem's numbers and to a lesser extent nijiEN.

>> No.73270984

>>73270871
>The fujos found out about something that happened to him irl
hint?

>> No.73271885

>>73270871
wtf are you talking about

>> No.73275281

>>73260317
buy an ad

>> No.73276076

>>73275281
can't, nijisanji won't pay for it.

>> No.73276422

>>73270984
Pizza pasta lasagna mama mia

>> No.73276709
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73276709

>>73260317
How did they succeed?

>> No.73278628

>>73276076
they might if luca or vox ask. good luck getting them to do anything related to their job

>> No.73278721

>>73276709
One by being fully committed to Pikachu and the other for having Zidane from FF9 as someone to aspire to be like.

>> No.73280096

>>73270480
>One graduated
>Another fucked off from youtube entirely and became a white monkey for chinks
Sounds like failure to me

>> No.73281211

>>73260317
KARMA.

>> No.73281586

>>73260317
fujobait buff wore off and they became too egotistical to actually fucking try.
In Luca's case, he never tried back then either.

>> No.73281648

>>73270480
Subscriber counts are supposed to go up, not down.

>> No.73281733

>>73260317
Their fans are all women, who eventually learn that "femcels" don't exist and they can easily get a boyfriend irl by just asking out any random guy who is friendly towards them, and therefore no longer need maletubers.

>> No.73281858

>>73270480
>usually hover around 4view
pretty sure most of them are 3views now

>> No.73282358

>>73260317
>Ike and Shu: Two nowbodies, just kind of exist there, you might hear a "oh he has x thing going on" but genuienly who gives a fuck
>Mysta: Literally the fame of the bugmen and fujos wasn't made for him, too much of a retard and menhera to handle it. Seems he wasn't so retarded to leave the sinking ship, and seems genuienly happy outside of some retard moments of him.
>Vox: No need to explain how much has he fucked up. He barely recovers because he's a white monkey for the bugmen fujos.
>Luca: Actual lazy faggot, scummy and seems like he will recover because female vtuber viewers can be so retarded.
>NIJIEN: Fucking useless sack of shit management who thought they were tought shit, ended up messing up what it could have been great for them by pushing a lot of waves for absolute no fucking reason.

>> No.73282412

>>73276709
Literally endurance, I will never watch them but I respect these two

>> No.73282534

>>73262140
This but unironically

>> No.73282555

>>73281648
That isn’t exactly a luxiem exclusive issue

>> No.73282622

>>73260317
Do not insult someone mum

>> No.73287014

>>73260317
No tardwrangling on top of getting milked dry.

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73287356

I struggle to see the failure

>> No.73287847

>>73270362
Kuzuha doesn't act gay, his female fans invented this entire headcanon about him and Kanae that management goes along with cause it prints money.

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>>73287356
You don't see it?
Weird. Why don't you compare the dates then?

>> No.73289025

>>73276709
Never give up.

>> No.73289207

>>73288829
Damn, let's see how HololiveEN was doing in 2022 compared to now

>> No.73289284

90% of their fanbase did not even speak the English language. They just coom themselves to the models and the voices and spam emotes in chat. Literally their entire chats would be chinese women who can't speak English.
Does anyone believe that is the foundation for a long lasting fandom? How long realistically will you watch a streamer who's language you do not even speak?

The women fans in general don't even really care about the guy's personalities or anything. They just care if they're "dom or sub" in their gay roleplay fantasies. They completely ignore the vtuber's personalities and assign their own, then write fanfics and draw fanarts with the models. It's literally just the equivalent of playing with barbiedolls and making the dolls kissy kissy each other for your amusement.

>> No.73289383
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73289383

Council won
Promise won

>> No.73289530

>>73260317
incompetent management or lack thereof

>> No.73289648
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73289648

>73289207
>SISTER SEETHING SO HARD SHE FORGOT TO CHANGE HER FUCKING NAME
You can't make this shit up, folks! Fucking hilarious. Wow, you're REALLY mad she has a higher average ccv on her streams than nearly all the NijiEN organs, huh?
>>73289141

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73289681

>>73289383
>Ike made nearly as much in two regular streams than Irys' birthday
Promise lost. Gura and Ame fucked off. Sana fucked off. Kronii is having a mental breakdown. Nerissa can only yuri bait. Bae makes the least out of the whole branch. Fauna is a vegan. The only people left to carry the branch is Fuwamoco and Mumei

>> No.73289726

>>73289648
Kek I have no reason to hide

>> No.73289946

>>73289681
Views doko?
Merch sales doko?

>> No.73289977

>>73289681
>JP hours and jp overlap.

Most of her fanbase couldn't watch the live. The rest were part of the jp holobox.

>> No.73290040

>>73289681
>The worst the sister can say about Fauna is she’s a vegan

>> No.73290085

>>73290040
Being vegan is pretty bad tbf

>> No.73290189

>>73290085
Nah

>> No.73290280
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73290280

>>73289681

>> No.73290671

>>73290085
naw, not really. i'm allergic to eggs and i'm lactose intolerant. i just eat vegan food to get by but that doesn't stop me from grabbing a steak every once in a while.

>> No.73292134

>>73287847
Management had nothing to do with chronoir becoming a thing, it was all kanae and kuzuha and the shared channel was completely their idea. Management supports them nowadays but it wasn't like that at the start at all.
Kuzuha also says gay shit often but he's more subtle about it and he doesn't force flirty interactions too much but it still happens naturally (him and kanae calling each other baby for example). Not that you would know any of this since you don't watch streams.

>> No.73294137

>>73260317
>Male Vtuber
/thread

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73294657

>>73289681
Context matter anon.
Irys pre bday celeb pic superchat.

Meanwhile your organ is going downward on all metrics post all the drama that happen

>> No.73295622

>>73276709
Succeed in what because every time I see them they are 3views

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>>73289207

>> No.73296022

>>73295755
Who's the pink girl at #3?

>> No.73296060

>>73270612
He got hard doxed It was revealed that he had an irl girlfriend and that he was cheating on her with one of the livers, most likely Reimu, who his fanbase already hated because of that one time she interrupted a date asmr stream

>> No.73296119

>>73294657
>Wants me to add two birthday streams together
>Still means that Ike mogged one of her birthday streams with Danganronpa
Grim

>> No.73296134

>>73296060
Damn. Is that why he moved?
That's probably where Zaion's info came from, too.

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73296190

>>73296119
>goalpost moving
sister, this is what your numbers are supposed to look like. Time goes up. Numbers go up. Not the opposite.

>> No.73296496

>>73296190
sister been real quiet after this post

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Whole branch getting mog by holostar

Fucking grim

>> No.73297738

>>73270612
offended the feeling of Italians with shitty dry pasta

>> No.73297753

>>73296134
ye

>> No.73297924

>>73289207
Much worse... those are Rushia numbers. Nobody, even in HoloJP are able to draw this much. They are insane numbers especially for an EN male.

>> No.73298000

>>73297924
to be clear to those who will lose their shit - I am talking about HoloEN compared to Ike in 2022, not now.

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>>73296190
>Talks about Irys birthday losing to Ike
>>BUT MUMEI
what about Mumei

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>>73298195
>2023
oh we're going that far back, huh? I wonder what holo was doing in 2023.

>> No.73298866

>>73260317
Something something lightning in the bottle
Something young men who lack understanding on how to tardwrangle their fanbases just catapulted into the fame something

>> No.73299184

>>73276709
Good manners, other males could learn something

>> No.73299841

>>73264842
Wouldn't call them weak links since they were the only two StarsEN members that a lot of people still remember.

>> No.73299886

>>73295622
And yet they've got 3Ds.

>> No.73299916

>>73276709
soft k-boy and the other is a proper aussie cunt mate

>> No.73300124

>>73299916
>Proper aussie
Since when was being half nip and half chink a proper aussie

>> No.73300995

>>73260317
Girl bossed too close to the sun and went all in on chink fujos instead of trying to build a domestic audience. They could have had a solid western audience and casually appealed to fujos while doing next to no actual gay shit because fujos make their own head canon. They got a whiff of chinese sister puss though and went in too deep. Now the entire branch is on life support and their audience is comprised of suicidal 12 year old trannies. Unironically if they played by holostars tempus rules and acted like tempus was before the debut of tempus 2 where they went all in on fujo pandering they probably would have been fine. Not as many subs but a solid and healthy fanbase. Also shitcanning luca in hiring process and replacing him with someone else would have been nice too.

>> No.73302314

>>73298195
>has to dig up old stuff before everything hit the point of no return
lol
lmao

>> No.73302424

>>73298247
>JP
I accept your confession

>> No.73302547

>>73302424
>Coping

>> No.73302612

>>73289207
just dont,sister you are not gonna win,holo literally all over the top list mogging even top niji like kuzuha,choose your opponent wisely

>> No.73303093

>>73296060
What if it was luca who sabotaged him?
I can see it happening judging by the recent document.

>> No.73303246

>>73303093
Why would Luca do that though?
Did he have anything to gain by shitting on Vox?

>> No.73303370

>>73303246
to take over sister no 1 fujobait

>> No.73303647

>>73303370
I refuse to believe he's THAT retarded.
Shitting on Vox doesn't even guarantee that Luca will be the new #1 fujobaiter. ESPECIALLY when the wanker can't even make good content on his own, let alone fujobait.

>> No.73303953

>>73296060
Wait wasn't that partly a rrat? I remember seeing the table pictures but I never managed to find proof or images of anything written about Vox having a girlfriend,or cheating on her with Reimu

>> No.73304010

>>73300124
Since the 2020's

>> No.73304056

>>73303647
>I refuse to believe he's THAT retarded
what are you doing this last 2 month? they showed how retarded they can be,including vox,about luca he is actually retarded,like real one

>> No.73304150

>>73303953
Does it matter to a fujo chink audience though?

>> No.73304408

>>73303953
I believe some schizo managed to prove picture/gf being real comparing table/dishes to some old photos. No idea about the cheating part, but definitely wouldn't be surprised

>> No.73304663

>>73303647
with how NijiEN was run I am almost certain Livers sabotaged each other. Be it out of jealousy for other members success or to simply fight for the lackluster audience crumbs. With horrible management, barely any support and sink or swim approach for individuals it is everyone for themselves.

>> No.73306542

>>73303953
you are correct, there is nothing in the photo that even proves that a second person was present at all, even what is writen on it and the way that is written is in par to his PL way of writting.
thruth is an (now ex) friend posted the photo on the doxxsite, people made fun of them and he in retaliation they posted an address, the subsequent rrat of gf and so forth came hours later when it hit /vt/ and people wanted in on the action

>> No.73308916

>>73304663
Christ what a clusterfuck

>> No.73310000

>>73289648
What is with this flood of new users who can't seem to quote posts properly? Is it some new interface that screws up the system, only producing one greater than sign, when it should produce two?

>> No.73310676

>>73289977
JP hours is a buff, retard. indians and pakis are only few hours away so they could watch it live. her guests were also JP so some of their fans tuned in too.

>> No.73310705

>>73260317
Chinesea fujos giveth and taketh

>> No.73310741

>>73290189
>>73290671
she's the kind of grass eater that refuses to touch anything that touched meat after being washed. feel so bad for lui trying to cook for the bitch.

>> No.73310744

>>73264510
But enough about you kek

>> No.73310862

>>73264842
Weak links? Vesper is still the most popular homo they've had in EN or JP.

>> No.73312021

>>73310741
>>73310744
NIJISEETHE

>> No.73312094

>cuckling didn't try
go slurp the used condoms over the trash bin, cuck

>> No.73312103

>>73310744
Why are nijigroids unable to defend their boys and resort to reddit-tier "gotchas" that are cringe as fuck? It's like the vtuber equivalent of spamming "Umad" or "gitgud".

>> No.73312157

>>73262140
This is actually unironically the case as they would have retained their massive chinese female fanbases if not for the sexpesting of other women.

>> No.73312308

>>73312103
Because they literally cannot defend them any other way.
They have to resort to fallacies and deflection to defend them.

>> No.73312469

>>73264842
Vesper was literally subject to a smear campaign by Vox's fans because they considered him a threat, 50% of the anti-posts on here were literally deranged nijisisters. The other half, I assume, were kronies.

>> No.73312534

>>73310862
Maybe in the short term, but in the long term Vesper was liable. He had no interest in singing or getting better at it. His suspension proved he was hard to work with.

Magni was screwed from the start. He made lemonade out of lemons with his model becoming a meme but it didn't matter in the end when he got an even worse model update. He seemed like he wanted to sing, but was horrible at it as proven by his original.

Not like it matters to the rest of the homos. If Anycolor is sexist towards female talents, then Cover is the adverse.

>> No.73312639

>>73312103
to be perfectly fair here, a lot of criticism of holo - whether objective or not - is met with the proverbial
>ok sister
Unfortunately both of these groups are infecting one another. But yeah, integrity is a rare quality; so once something they love is being attacked people tend to lash out.

>> No.73313053

>>73312639
>lash out
Do it without bringing r*ddit memes here.

>> No.73313132

1 USD is like 7 chinese yuan.
Vox is going to need to do 7 times the blowjob asmr.

>> No.73313345

What is it about Fauna that invokes such a visceral hatred from sisters? Because if you’re posting in this thread, you’re either here to laugh at Niji, or a sister, and you can pretty well guess which of those 2 groups is the one anti-ing Fauna.

>> No.73314652

>>73313345
>>73312308

>> No.73315168

>>73264510
Mysta's straight. I was interested in his flamboyant personality, but apparently he takes offense to being shipped with guys. It's a shame.

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