/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

What?
She still has twice her niji numbers

>redebuts 2 months ago to 100k people
>2 months after the hype dies down has 6000 people
>hippity dippity doo mogging you

>>73258964
How many finanas is that?

Jesus Christ are the sisters working overtime today for some reason?

>>73259072
They are worried because mint made a doki reference, or rather a selen reference.

Sisters are getting cocky with deflection threads, REMINDER:
>Aia hinted at graduating and reactivated her PL
>Scarle reactivated her PL after getting harassed by nijisisters over fucking Starbucks
>Ren has been doomposting on his PL.
>Kotoka is on an infinite "mental health" break and will most likely graduate
>Millie's outfit reveal being a flop
>MK tournament flopped, couldn't even beat Korone
>Rosemi's 3D debut being the worst in Niji history
>Vox fucked off to be a white monkey on bilibili like a bitch, still gets shit views
>Elira is hiding on collab streams, can't bother doing a solo stream on her channel
>Luca shitshow and blatant favoritism
>Virtual Rhapsody SEA concert is a glorified L2D Karaoke
>The concert is selling so badly they are removing purchase limits
>AR Colors rushed out and edited a lot of footage due to graduated livers
>3D showcases being rushed out before Q4, will definitely flop
>The latest niji gen still can't get to 100k subs and almost never reach more than 3 finanas of CCV
>Stocks are stagnated and will fall once the sales ban is lifted

>>73258964
If you ever feel bad about yourself, remember nearly 80k people watched this debut

>>73259072
>>73259162
It's also Monday, so there's a new Mint & Matara podcast. The latter makes them seethe in any incarnation, but they don't want to turn fully on Mint yet in case they can drive a wedge between her and Doki by everything out of context and spinning rrats.

>>73259310
I understand it's a debut but considering his normal CCV that's actually surprising

>>73259162
Mint said Selen shit herself and she wouldn't want her reputation. That isn't the own you think it is

>>73259833
I only said it was a reference. They are the ones overreacting. Or do you have a better explanation for their sudden activity?

Dramatards are fickle. One month she consistently has around 15-20k then once everything starts dying down, she loses 10k views. All the faggots saying it wasn't a drama buff got blown out btw

>73259833
>Nijisisters unironically believe their ESL misinterpretation of the "shitting my pants" Pomulen meme is something anyone would actually get upset by.
You do know that both Dragoons and Wisps have been using that meme for months because they know the full context, right?

>>73259231
You forgot to add:
>Hail Mary fire sale on new Iluna/Xsoleil merch
and
>Reimu's 3D showcase will be broadcast after the end of Q4, so it won't help Niji's Q4 and FY2023 numbers one whit

And if they close the branch on May 1, and Reimu pulls a short straw and gets culled, her 3D showcase might not happen at all.
Management and corporate and Riku only need to pretend to care about the EN talents until the end of April JST. And due to time zones, the minute they can afford to stop pretending will be on April 30 at 11am EDT / 8am PDT.

>>73259310
*Sigh*...

>It takes two
>gets two dollars

I don't see the problem

>>73259231
>THIS PERSON TALKED ON A DIFFERENT ACCOUNT, THEY'RE GRADUATING
>THIS PERSON IS ON A BREAK AFTER HOLOFAGS STARTED HARASSING HER, SHE'S GRADUATING
>Muh numbers! Don't look at the numbers that prove we're full of shit though ( Sonny mogging HoloEN's birthdays)
>Vox and Elira are hiding to not be harassed by dramafags as they have proved to actually go into people's channel to seethe! Take that, sisters! If anyone does this to a Holomem, I will cry
>They decided to allow people to buy more than one ticket like a regular company! This means they're poor!
>3D showcases are being rushed out , ignore that they've been working on them since last year!
>There's a stock sale ban! Ignore that if selling stocks is banned, buying them is also banned and that Niji's stocks are clearly still active.
>The wave getting new outfits are selling merch! This is desperation!

Dokifags are now getting so lazy, they can't even come up with their own shit. Pathetic

Doesn't she have streamlabs too?

>>73260618
How mindbroken are you niggas lmao
>3D before Q4? Blatant cash grab, probably rushed (source: my ass)
>3D after Q4? It won't help their numbers = disaster and It's not going to happen and the branch will be closed and they will cancel it

Not to mention a good 75 percent of the items on the list you replied to are flat out lies, old, dead drama that lead to nowhere, or calling good things bad becuase /#/ labeled it a hail mary

>>73260771

>>73258654
It would of been something bad if we didn't know Niji streams struggle to achieve half of that rumaro

>>73260771
I've seen you sisters remake that guys pasta. Must have gotten to someone in Niji if you are so adamant at flipping it.

>73260771
Take the next step in critical thinking sister:
We don't have to come up with anything because Kurosanji provides it all for free. We're absolutely inundated by the black company's self-sabotage and anyone outside your hugbox understands that.

>73260906
As per my point above, in their own publicly available Q3 report, Anycolor desperately needs to do 25% better in Q4 (by the end of this month) to meet their target or investors are going to dump the stock as fast as the breakers allow. Spamming merch and debuts on short notice with no buildup sure looks desperate in that context.

I'm going to add the "current Nijisister deflection" list to my copypasta for easier access. it seems to be very effective at creating seethe

>Doki reclaimed her Epic Games account stolen by Niji making them seethe in impotence.
>Aia hinted at graduating and reactivated her PL
>Scarle reactivated her PL after getting harassed by nijisisters over fucking Starbucks
>Ren has been doomposting on his PL.
>Kotoka is on an infinite "mental health" break and will most likely graduate
>Millie's outfit reveal being a flop
>MK tournament flopped, couldn't even beat Korone
>Rosemi's 3D debut being the worst in Niji history
>Vox fucked off to be a white monkey on bilibili like a bitch, still gets shit views
>Elira is hiding on collabs and pre-recorded content, the sun will explode before she actually streams on her channel.
>Luca shitshow and blatant favoritism, clear breach of contract yet still gets away with it.
>Play Button drama by le retard Claude "you could just fucking ask" Clawmark
>Hex yab comments about killing goldfish and dumping dead people's ashes "for fun", Zaion got fired for way less.
>Uki "White people scare me" Violeta
>The whole "We love artists" psyop when in reality Niji refused to pay many artists
>Virtual Rhapsody SEA concert is a glorified L2D Karaoke
>The concert is selling so badly they are removing purchase limits
>AR Colors rushed out and butchered a lot of footage due to graduated livers, fucked over Rosemi and Petra.
>3D showcases being rushed out before Q4 after being stalled for 2 years, will definitely flop
>The latest niji gen still can't get to 100k subs and almost never reach more than 3 finanas of CCV
>Stocks are stagnated and will fall once the sales ban is lifted
>Niji desperately spamming Iluna and XSoleil merch to get some scraps before the Q4 report

updated pasta for any anon that wants to make sister seethe

>>73260034
You got a clip of this? I've been busy the last week.

>>73261263
I don't care about the rest but Scarle is based and I hope she leaves and starts over on her PL alt (even though I literally don't know it off memory I'll have to check the sister site).

Scarle is a sweetie. She deserves good things.

>>73261263
also
>Mint is thriving outside Niji and is even making friendly references towards Selen/Doki, clearly showing Niji is a sinking ship and you're better off leaving to be an indie.

>>73261376
Why would you subject yourself to that, just check archives

>>73261376
Scarle leaves she will be another success story alongside Doki & Mint. It's also important to leave Niji to establish a foothold yourself in the indie market in time. All those talents let go will BE your competition at that moment since you can't share the same exposure at the same time.

>>73258654
Turns our dramabird isn't that entertaining when your only personality trait is niji bad

>73261595
you live in an imaginary world.

>>73258654
Not surprising. People were only there for the drama and nothing else. There is nothing that you can get out of Doki that you can get from anyone other Vtuber. If I wanted to watch someone actually entertaining, I would watch someone in Niji or Hololive.

To think she threw it all away just because of a crappy cover of a crappy song.

>>73261650
>If I wanted to watch someone actually entertaining, I would watch someone in Niji
you had a good bait going until you said this, try harder

>>73258654
It takes 2 is actually a boring game

>>73261363
The whole clip provides context for the bit they did where they swapped models and joked around while skinwalking. They continued this banter later when they used their outfit tickets to get a joint "Holmes & Moriarty" theme. You can really see how disingenuous Nijisisters are when they misrepresent Mint's statements as being a completely serious insult aimed at Doki when she's clearly laughing at the callback.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auHNRx3oeN8

>>73261263
>Doki got her account back after her work emails were deleted? This proves that Nijisanji management was cranking 90s on her account
>THIS PERSON TALKED ON A DIFFERENT ACCOUNT, THEY'RE GRADUATING
>THIS PERSON IS ON A BREAK AFTER HOLOFAGS STARTED HARASSING HER, SHE'S GRADUATING
>Muh numbers! Don't look at the numbers that prove we're full of shit though ( Sonny mogging HoloEN's birthdays)
>Vox and Elira are hiding to not be harassed by dramafags as they have proved to actually go into people's channel to seethe! Take that, sisters! If anyone does this to a Holomem, I will cry
>They decided to allow people to buy more than one ticket like a regular company! This means they're poor!
>3D showcases are being rushed out , ignore that they've been working on them since last year!
>Claude revealed that people can ask for the play button and we're seething
>Hex made up a story about flushing a goldfish down the toilet when he was a child to shock Vanta. This is as bad as Zaion saying "Rape is understandable, I want to see my character get raped"
>Uki hates people! Ignore Selen laughing at anti white jokes
>Nijisanji didn't pay artists! Ignore that members are supposed to pay their own artists for their own projects
>There's a stock sale ban! Ignore that if selling stocks is banned, buying them is also banned and that Niji's stocks are clearly still active.
>The wave getting new outfits are selling merch! This is desperation!

Updated counter pasta to make the dramafags seethe

>>73261229
very effective, it was posted and a sister spent 15 minutes writing a "counter" in seethe kek
>73262008

>>73261081
>I've seen you sisters remake that guys pasta. Must have gotten to someone in Niji if you are so adamant at flipping it.
>73262008
Holy shit, you were right. This really did get under the skin of someone directing the NDF.

Doki is a stable 4views while the entire NijiEN is approaching Phase Connect numbers, and since Phase is growing, soon NijiEN will lose to a coffee company, Why does sister keep using numbers as ammunition? Are they stupid?

>>73261376
I like how you retards don't even mention the only reason she was posting on her PL was to celebrate graduating from grad school while larping like you care about her

>>73261229
>seethe

It's literally factually wrong

>>73261703
How exactly is this bait? I said that I prefer the streamers of Niji to other streamers? That is my opinion. I do not understand how that could be bait.
>>73262008
I do not care about any of this. I am hear to watch Vtubers. Simple as that. I do not care about any of this silly drama. I am hear to have fun and pretend that I have a girlfriend who loves me and only me.

>>73262008
sis you didn't adress these talking points, bad job
>Kotoka is on an infinite "mental health" break and will most likely graduate
>Luca shitshow and blatant favoritism, clear breach of contract yet still gets away with it.
>Virtual Rhapsody SEA concert is a glorified L2D Karaoke
>The latest niji gen still can't get to 100k subs and almost never reach more than 3 finanas of CCV
wonder why
>>73262158
no niji streamer is actually entertaining

>>73261376
She removed the "I'll be back soon" from her page just to shut you fags up lol, she has never given indication of being anything but happy there, she hardly interacts with anyone and has paypigs she's very parasocial for
You're causing her a headache because you want her to fit a narrative

>>73262112
I literally said in that very post I don't know her PL account offhand you retard. I'm not larping as anything I explicitly say I like her but don't know her past life accounts.

Kek dramafags have started not even directly responding to arguments because they are pansies and say it's because they think anyone actually gives a shit about (you)s.

>>73259361
don't forget that they seethe hard at Mint's success, they don't get tired of shittalking everything about her.
>>73262158
>pretend that I have a girlfriend who loves me and only me
roru my girlfriend openly said that she loves me and that so-called "parasocial relationships" are good. i remember some niji en organ talking way differently about her viewers and acting accordingly...

>>73262008
>>Hex made up a story about flushing a goldfish down the toilet when he was a child to shock Vanta. This is as bad as Zaion saying "Rape is understandable, I want to see my character get raped"
kek if anyone falls for this bait they deserve it

>73262008
>>Muh numbers! Don't look at the numbers that prove we're full of shit though ( Sonny mogging HoloEN's birthdays)
sis, a random Mumei drawing stream mogged Sonny, and Sonny only gets that amount of money during a single day, meanwhile Holo gets thousands of dollars all year round.

>73262225
We know (You) crave them because they're the closest things you have to your precious hugbox upvotes, Sister. I promise your mental health will improve once you walk away from the Kurosanji cult.

>>73262187
I did address Kotoka and number monkeys. The Luca and Virtual Rhapsody are such nothing burgers, there's no need to include it. But for Luca
>Groomer releases smear document with cropped evidence and reveals she was actually getting paid for all her work she did for Luca

>>73258654
>getting 3x her numbers compared to Niji and gets more than 2%

>>73262394
>reveals she was actually getting paid for all her work she did for Luca
thank you for admitting that's a contract breach

>>73262345
Post HoloEN birthday streams

>>73262425
It is? Tell me where in the contract it says you aren't allowed to hire help for Niji projects because there's an entire section for subcontracting and 0 evidence that Nijisanji didn't know about her.

Why do sister's think Luca never pleasured his groomer and behaved like a little boy toy for her? Isn't that right up their fantasy? But they don't celebrate it..

>>73261263
Based.

>>73262554
Not a sister, not even a Luca watcher. Just because I'm used to seeing multiple page cancellation documents and I'm used to them being full of misinformation and cut context doesn't mean I'm a wack job cumstain like you.

>>73261263
Based
>73262008
The unhinged rants and whataboutism make this layout look like a hot mess in comparison. Please learn to be concise and try again next life, Nijisister.

>>73261909
Perfect thank you.

>>73262497
>Tell me where in the contract it says you aren't allowed to hire help for Niji projects because there's an entire section for subcontracting

You are misconstruing what commissions are, and what subcontracting means. I know it's hard because they are in English, but you could just learn the definitions of "commission" and "subcontract" in the dictionary

>0 evidence that Nijisanji didn't know about her
If the entirety of Nijisanji was aware of her, why did Raziel, skinwalking as Luca, flee from Pomu out of guilt?

>>73261909
>No, you don't understand! She was definitely not attacking her! You can clearly see in an old stream, she called her an "annoying bitch" as a joke so any time she's called an "annoying bitch" here on out, it's not serious!

The desperation is hysterical, Dokifag. You will seethe when you realized she directly mentioned Elira's PL but not Doki once

>73263929
Sounds like you're too retarded to understand english.,

>>73263885
I never said commissions and subcontracting were the same thing. Just that they're allowed to hire help. The groomer would still be defined as a subcontractor though so she fits the bill
>a business or person that carries out work for a company as part of a larger project.
No one said the entirety of Nijisanji was aware of her, just management.

>>73264145
>No one said the entirety of Nijisanji was aware of her, just management.
proof doko?
did raziel say this herself?

>>73264145
>No one said the entirety of Nijisanji was aware of her, just management.
She specifically said Luca kept her out of contact with management. Nice try sis.

>>73261595
she's the Joe Biden of chuubas, nobody gives a shit about her, most people actually dislike her, but they back her because they hate her opponent more

Since Nijisanji was aware of Raziel I'm sure she will be served with a lawsuit any day now for breaking the NDA they definitely made her sign, right?

>>73264214
Evidence management was aware of her?

>>73259310
LMAO this guy went sub 300 ccv from 80k debut

>>73264145
>I never said commissions and subcontracting were the same thing. Just that they're allowed to hire help. The groomer would still be defined as a subcontractor though so she fits the bill

They are allowed to commission for help assuming their manager is competent in project management. Based on the open contract however, Raziel's actions and relationship with Luca was considered subcontracting behavior. There is the fixed salary to consider, but also the fact Raziel was ready to make their partnership legally binding. Of course, Luca refused to do so, because that was against his contract

Also, please don't change the goal post. First you claimed Nijisanji (the company) was aware of Raziel's involvement. Next you say it's just management. What next, individual livers? But why would Raziel (skinwalking as Luca) flee from Pomu?

>>73262217
after that aster incident? yeah 100% happy kek

>73263929
>You will seethe when you realized she directly mentioned Elira's PL but not Doki once
Unlike you Sisters, I don't seethe about people at the drop of a hat. It's great how you lie about stuff that's easy to find.

Here's the timestamp you're referring to. She isn't sure if she has a Minecraft account, then a chatter brings up her playing Minecraft with [someone]. She says, "That's true, I did play, once," and immediately continues her train of thought about possibly owning it. No giggling, no further consideration about [someone]. Compared to the Pomulen bit where she laughs and reminisces, it sure seems like she wanted to move past thinking about Elira.

https://youtu.be/hfTgzbCblOU?t=17586

>>73264277
No she didn't. She said that Luca and management ignored her when she was bitching then Luca told her to just stay as a silent mod. Not a single time did she say in the document that Luca hid her from management. They are clearly aware of her existing because she was a mod in his channel and she was credited for work on stream multiple times

like i said, grifterbird is running out of drama fumes and once her numbers drop down below 2k, the fatso probably going to go for the third time roping herself to regain pity points.. i hope its a success this time, her attempt that is lmao.

>>73264788
Adding on, it's also worth mentioning, Nova no longer exists.

>73265001
>Dokischizo reusing pics and talking points
>Still proyecting her obesity and suicidal tendencies on others.

>73265001
>muh edgy shoop
You have to be over 18 to post /here/. Please delete this off your mom's iPad and give it back to her.

>73263929
At this point I'm genuinely unsure about what causes this inability to understand normal social interaction. Is it autism, being ESL or just bait? Or perhaps a bit of a mix of all three?

>>73264573
All we know is that Luca refused to sign a contract she gave him and they continued like normal. She was a subcontractor and also a channel mod so Nijisanji are aware she exists. When I say Nijisanji, I mean the people in charge of the company. Not everyone in it. Like when McDonald's releases a new sandwich, you don't assume I mean everyone who works for McDonald's did that. Raziel fled from Pomu because Luca was getting extra help on his Minecraft account during their Minecraft rivalry

>73265001
At least put some effort into the pic.

>>73263929
English is clearly not your forte sister

>73265001
>Poorly shopped le edgy edit
Wow Sisters are getting desperate. They do realize the only drama is coming from Nijisanji constantly fucking up right? Doki hasn't even shat on Niji since leaving so you would think they'd be singing her praises for not dragging their rep in further in the mud right?

>>73265001
Erm, people don't spew blood from their orifices from getting lynched. The point of lynching is execution via asphyxiation. Even if Doki was architecturally built, the force of gravity wouldn't be strong enough to make the rope vice her neck that strongly. If it did, her head would be decapitated, rather than squeeze bodily fluids out of her. At that point, you are better off with a guillotine.

>>73259310
it's also the only stream ever he got 10k+ on

>>73264788
>Directly talks about THE Elira and says her full PL name. Says she DID play Minecraft with her for about a minute and shares a story her getting emails from someone
>Indirectly talks about Selen. Mention her not wanting her kind of image and that she sounds like the kind of person who shit herself

In your schizo mind, this proves she's still friends with Selen and not Elira.

>>73263929
>>73264788
>>73265676
Stop dragging Mint into your schizowars, she's friends with both.

>>73265464
They've become legit schizos and comb through everything looking for anything that could be interpreted as an insult toward Nijisanji, no matter how big of a stretch. It's unsurprising considering it's how China's government trolls (wumao/五毛) operate - people get dogpiled on and their social credit docked for using the wrong numbers because it's a homophone of something deemed verboten by the CCP.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party

Um....Lucubs?

>>73265676
>Directly talks about THE Elira and says her full PL name.
Reads a message from chat that said Elira's PL name.
>and shares a story her getting emails from someone
From Minecraft, about migrating her Minecraft purchase to a Microsoft Account. Not whatever you are trying to misconstrue.

>>73265248
Autism is when you take someone saying they don't want your kind of reputation and that you shit yourself as bad thing
>>73265418
if you're a seething ESL and you don't know "shitting yourself" is slang for making a really bad mistake, pick up an English textbook

>>73265676
>Directly talks about THE Elira and says her full PL name. Says she DID play Minecraft with her for about a minute and shares a story her getting emails from someone
Proof next thread?
>Indirectly talks about Selen. Mention her not wanting her kind of image and that she sounds like the kind of person who shit herself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW_PwaSZZLw
You sisters are so pathetic and retarded it's hilarious, Also reporting me for "Ironic Trolling" for calling you faggots out is just icing on the sensitivity cake

>>73265294
>All we know is that Luca refused to sign a contract she gave him and they continued like normal.
Again, Luca avoided a contract with Raziel because it was a violation with his contract to Nijisanji.

>She was a subcontractor and also a channel mod so Nijisanji are aware she exists
If she was a moderator, why was it not known to the public since Luca's debut that she was also being subcontracted?

>When I say Nijisanji, I mean the people in charge of the company. Not everyone in it.
So you mean to say Riku, the executive chairmen of Anycolor, and major shareholders are aware of Raziel's presence?

>Like when McDonald's releases a new sandwich, you don't assume I mean everyone who works for McDonald's did that.
Releasing a new sandwich is a financial risk, or in other words, a very important decision. From the executives, to PR, Supply chain managers, to franchisers, and even the wagie employee; all of them have to be involved in some way in order to make this new sandwich sell, generate profit, and make inventory quotas sustainable.

>>73265893
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW_PwaSZZLw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW_PwaSZZLw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW_PwaSZZLw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW_PwaSZZLw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW_PwaSZZLw
New fags should unironically neck themselves, You fucking luxiem femoids never watched them and it shows

>>73265751
That implies she's currently friends with both.
Please provide proof to where she's friends with Doki LMAO
SHE LITERALLY HATES HER GUTS LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

>>73265984
>SHE LITERALLY HATES HER GUTS LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Please provide proof of of this since you are oh so confident you shit eating fucktard

>>73265901
>Proof next thread
It's already in this thread. Thanks for posting the link that directly applies to "my friend jokingly called me a retard so now he never actually means it if he calls me a retard in the future"

>>73265984
>LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Nobody is going to take you seriously if you keep on talking like this.

>>73265783
Huh so they're just deranged kek.

>>73260768
Thats not how the graph works. The green bars are superchats in each respective 10min period. So she got 2$ between 18:40 and 18:50 .
The overall stream was $200 in supas which is unironically fairly good for this kind of stream because 95% of colalbs are terrible for superchat numbers because the vtuber isn't looking at chat at all but instead interacting with their collab partner. Generally speaking what matters is the superchat amount over a longer period rather than stream by stream as a result of the different rates each type of stream gets.

>>73258964
palworldbros.....

>>73266047
The burden is on you, retard
She avoids Doki like the plague
The only time she references her is to shit on her, well SELEN ALREADY SHAT HERSELF LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>73265783
They chosen doki because firing her is what drove nijisanji into it's downward spiral, Everything went wrong when they fired her and they blame her for it because they are brand worshipping seamonkeys who can't ever imagine a corporation being in the wrong, They still think if they can somehow find a smear that sticks onto doki that everything can still be magically reversed and they'll get their revenge, It's actually just pitiable at this point

>>73265418
Don't give them (You)s my man. It only encourages them.

>>73266088
Have you never had a friend before? That's exactly how friends act. If there was actual bad blood, they wouldn't bring up old jokes they had with each other.

>Sisters acting like the children they are
Uoh?

>>73258654
>making 1 gorillion shitty threads
>when their organs are 3views
Do Nijitrannies really?

>>73266088
>It's already in this thread.
oh you mean this >>73265832

>>73266088
Yes because bringing up a funny joke they shared with a friend obviously means they hate them and are bitter... You bugs obviously don't have any concept of friendship and boy does it show

>73266175
okay now you're being intentionally retarded, it's clear you can't read but you don't have to double down on your low IQ mindset

>73266088
>"my friend jokingly called me a retard so now he never actually means it if he calls me a retard in the future"
If you watched Pomu/Mint, you'd know that she banters and giggles about people she's on good terms with, like how she was all giggles from beginning to end with the Pomulen callback. If she isn't on good terms with them, she'll subtly avoid them, kind of like how she quickly changed the subject after reading that chatter's message about Nova.

>>73265947
>Luca avoided a contract with Raziel because it was a violation with his contract to Nijisanji
Prove that's he didn't sign the contract
>If she was a moderator, why was it not known to the public since Luca's debut that she was also being subcontracted
It was. She was already credited for work multiple times
>So you mean to say Riku, the executive chairmen of Anycolor, and major shareholders are aware of Raziel's presence?
Are you unironically a fucking retard? Not every person in the company, obviously.
>Unironically believes the burger flippers have any involvement in McDonald's deciding to put shit on the menu
So you do assume when someone says a company did something that it applies to every single person in the company? So if I say Amazon is retarded, you assume I'm talking about every person in the company?

>73266424

>>73262497
>0 evidence that Nijisanji didn't know about her.
Except all those times he told her to stay out of sight specifically because he "could get fired".

>73266424
>Compares the heart and soul of a vtubing company. The Vtubers. To burger flipping grunts
>Literally timeloops every other argument without acknowledging what's being said
You sisters are inbreds that i already knew but you can atleast TRY to do better

>>73266424
You realize the vtubers ARE the burgers in this analogy right?, They are the entire marketing and advertising team and NOT the wagie slave equivalent (That would be the 7$ an hour """managers""""

>>73258654
$2 USD is a small fortune for Canadians

>>73266402
Pomu giggled all the fucking time even if she's nervous, afraid of angry. She literally talked about her Minecraft account she used to play with Nova with for the next 3 minutes and she just passively shit on Selen
>>73266214
You've clearly never argued with your friends and it shows. If I call my friend a thin skinned pussy as a joke and then we argue later and I call him a thin skinned pussy there, it doesn't mean I'm not serious. Are you autistic?

>>73265783
>>73265783
Ah, you unlocked a core memory of how I learned the about the 50 cent army: They shart on any youtuber who criticizes China for leaking the coof, or investigate it's origins.

Also, the 50 Cent in the name literally means they are paid the equivalent of $0.50 for each post they make. It's no wonder nijisisters operate like clockwork. They get to paid to seethe and after a day's worth of hard work, consoom nijislop

>73266732
>Are you autistic?
nah you are

>>73258654
Maybe I'm missing something but it looks like the graph is saying that there were 5656 ccv and she got a 2 dollar superchat at 18:40. Is this some low effort bait to say that your average /vt/ doesn't know how to read charts?

Because you're right.

>>73266175
>>73265970
>She avoids Doki like the plague
By that logic Doki hates mint's guts cause SHE is actively avoiding her
>The burden is on you, retard
I know you shit eating mongoloids don't understand how the burden of proof works so let me run it by you one more time
>The Burden of Proof falls onto the person making the claims/accusations
>Nijifaggots are the ones claiming mint hates doki's guts
>Their """evidence""" is either ESL misinterpretations of a joke or baseless rrats based on literally nothing
So again you are making the claim mint hates doki. Care to back up that claim with a source senator?

>>73265787
Luca did take a hit with that yab. People thought it was just 10k sub out off a million+ which was nothing but those were active subs. Supermarket Sim is a FOTM game too, should of been a buff.

It was going to happen. Did you antis really think it was not going to be that way at all?

>>73260771
hit a nerve?

They HATE each other
sneed and chuck that is

>>73266658
Y'know i think doki is doing JUST fine in the money department

>>73265893
And you double sister ? Let me teach you something about every language, not only English.
When you want to send a message, the context is very important. Your thesis is "Mint hates Doki", but Mint never stated that. With the context that you just decided to ignore, you can know for sure that the message is just a reference to a joke from their past lives. While it doesn't confirm that they're friends, it also doesn't prove that they hate each other. That's why you need to do your reps
>Verification not required.

>>73266480
>>73266656
He told her that a single time because he gave her the email address for his work account
It was an example of how retarded your logic is. If someone says "Oh, Blockbuster went bankrupt" obviously not every Blockbuster employee went bankrupt. How is this hard to grasp?

>>73262733
The woman groomed him and clearly helped out his career? At most she was definitely a friend. Why do people try to devalue her importance to Luca? Why would she have helped him so much? Honestly it sounds to me like the sisters are very jealous about their history working together. Sure she is bat shit crazy but 'it could of been me' would be ringing in their heads, not that Luca would ever trust any plebs lol but shouldn't the sister's embrace their para socialism and relish in it?

>>73266898
>Why do people try to devalue her importance to Luca?
because the people doing that are women

>>73266794
FOTM game at his prime audience's hours too. Luxiem is basically dead at this point. The only males in EN doing good numbers are sonny and fulgur

>>73266867
>1050.00 lucubs
grim

>>73258654
>chink debuff
>apex debuff
>no drama
bound to happen

>>73266898
All women have a "crab in the bucket" mentality, that's why they try to shit on her with groomer and pedo allegations.

>>73266867
>Luca streams twice
>Doki streams six times, one being a karaoke and another one being the after party for the karaoke

Now show Sonny's

>>73266732
>If I call my friend a thin skinned pussy as a joke and then we argue later and I call him a thin skinned pussy there, it doesn't mean I'm not serious.
Are you really devoid of things to say in that situation that you have to resort to repeating something you had previously said as a joke? You have to resort to explicitives instead of talking like a rational individual? Sounds like you have anger issues.

>>73267103
Don't bother this """person""" is a 14 year old girl from jakarta they don't know jack shit about anything

>>73267081
what's your point? that this guy only gets a payday a single day every year?

>>73259310
How boring is this motherfucker. Like what's his most hyped stream where I can see him raging at league.

>>73266887
>With the context that you just decided to ignore
>Said context is a single joke made years ago that you believe is somehow relevant now
It sure does prove nothing, I agree with you on that

>>73267205
This guy got mogged by Mumei LMAO

>73266732
> She literally talked about her Minecraft account she used to play with Nova with for the next 3 minutes
Care to back that up with a source?
>If I call my friend a thin skinned pussy as a joke and then we argue later and I call him a thin skinned pussy there, it doesn't mean I'm not serious. Are you autistic?
Are YOU autistic because if that is your best argument than holy shit you need to understand this is a website for people 18 years of age or older and you are clearly 12 so get the fuck outta here

>73260771
Lol, lmao even
I hope you know that the gift cards are fake or bought using stolen credit cards

>>73266894
>He told her that a single time because he gave her the email address for his work account
WHICH IN AND OF ITSELF IS A V I O L A T I O N OF HIS CONTRACT...LIKE....WHAT???

>>73267201
They're a Paki ESL and they've been shitposting since last night

>>73266788
>Doki hates Mint
Glad to see that you agree

>>73266898
>Why would a groomer help a teenage boy so much?
I can't even tell if you're trolling or not. Luca probably did think she was a friend, true. Doesn't change the fact a 26 year old E-stripper found a barely legal kid in highschool then inserted herself into his life, bought him expensive gifts and had phone sex with him

>>73267220
I accidentally opened one of his league streams once, he was mostly not talking and his chat was talking to each other more than they were commenting on him or the game

>>73267459
>Doesn't change the fact a 26 year old E-stripper found a barely legal kid in highschool then inserted herself into his life, bought him expensive gifts and had phone sex with him
sounds like the sister is jealous it wasn't her

>>73266424
>Prove that's he didn't sign the contract
Occam's razor states the simplest solution is often the right answer. Luca can just show up, and show his end of receipts. He certainly wouldn't doctor the evidence in his favor.

>It was. She was already credited for work multiple times
So you admit that Raziel was a ghostwriter for Luca for his milestone message, and his merchandises' signature?

>Are you unironically a fucking retard? Not every person in the company, obviously.
So you consider Anycolor inept that they have no chain of communication, and no middle-management that gives the higher-ups eyes and ears? Do you have any sense on how a company operates?

>Unironically believes the burger flippers have any involvement in McDonald's deciding to put shit on the menu
Wait, so they flip the burgers, not because their manager told them to, and neither because the execs did not want to sell a new burger flavor..?

>>73267205
Gets paid more than your Oshi

>>73267459
Case in point with the crab in a bucket mentality.

>>73267424
Nah, this one has already been disproven months ago.

>>73267459
A horny teenager having an older woman as a friend. You can't be serious. Luca so innocent and playful. Holy hell he isn't an idiot it's a facade.

>>73267521
if you're gonna troll do it right

>>73267424
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n1K4wF6FKw&t=4546s
If Doki hated her, she wouldn't have chosen to show this Pomudachi wooden sculpture on stream. She would have chosen to show something else instead.

fuck dooki bitch, i hope she suffers for biting the hands that feed her all her current success, without niji brand all her networking would not have existed, she would have been eating rats in the sewers by now if it werent for nijisanji's influence.

>>73267590
So he mogged both of them. Terrible for your point

>>73267622
>sister can't do math

Is Dokischizo back?

>>73267661
She hasn't left.

>>73267331
>She literally talked about her Minecraft account she used to play with Nova with for the next 3 minutes
My head is hurting trying to drag myself down to their level of reasoning, but it seems like this Sister considers it a win that Mint is discussing account transfers and matters totally unrelated to Nova for 3 minutes because said account was used exactly once to play with Nova. It becomes an endorsement simply by association now that the account has interacted with her, somehow.

>>73267622
33k > 25k
I know you're a SEAnig but this is basic math you retard

>>73267686
Nice I'm not a Dokifan I'm here to enjoy the Schizo posting.

>>73266894
>"Oh, Blockbuster went bankrupt" obviously not every Blockbuster employee went bankrupt.
>>Blockbuster employee went bankrupt
Obviously, an employee wouldn't go bankrupt, because they are not a company. They would, however, be laid off their jobs.

My poor Luca he was abused that's why he constantly hits on women all the time boohoo

>73267614
>literally elementary school tier drawing

Really funny how much the sisters have to grasp at straws to even try to make any case against Doki.

>>73267613
this was prior to mint burning down bridges

>>73267514
>Occam's razor is when my delusions are the simplest answers
The simplest answer for him not signing the contract was because he didn't want to and not because he couldn't. Prove he couldn't. Also the irony of complaining about doctored evidence while blindly believing everything in the Raziel document is fucking gold
>So you admit that Raziel was a ghostwriter for Luca for his milestone message, and his merchandises' signature?
She didn't write the milestone message, she only handwrote it. She did do his signature for him. I never said otherwise
>Anycolor is inept because they don't tell the CEO everything about everyone in Niji
Holy kek
>Wait, so they flip the burgers, not because their manager told them to, and neither because the execs did not want to sell a new burger flavor..?
I accept your concession. The burger flipper has 0 involvement in the decision making process of what goes on the menu

>>73267870
>t. my headcanon

>>73267751
Are they not their own separate people with their own streams?

>>73267614

>73267081
>Now show sonny's
>Please compare our top earning organ of the last 3 months combined to this "negligible" indie
Grim that you have to shoot so high and that NOBODY ELSE in the branch even comes close to mogging doki for supas, Isn't that a grim admission on its own?

>>73267923
Why haven't they collabed yet then?
It's simple really. They literally hate each other.

>>73267990
They share the same channel, any earnings are counted as one person, not two, your comparison was stupid to begin with, I'm only showing you why you're retarded.

>>73267835
To give them credit they've taken on board the criticism and have attempted to improve it since the first version. At least they're trying.

>73268049
>t. the voices in my head told me

>>73268049
To make dramafaggots like you seethe. They're getting a kick out of it behind the scenes :)

>>73268059
>any earnings are counted as one person
But they are two different people with two different birthday streams. You're now shifting the goal post by adding up both birthday streams because you think FuwaMoco is a single entity. Isn't that extremely dehumanizing? Grim

>>73267990
They are one singular channel and they have to share the supas ALSO forgot to show the money from their countdown stream which pushes each individually above sonny's numbers if you add it up

>>73268203
They ARE a single "unit" you stupid fucking idiot, That is how their channel is counted and how their financials work, It isn't "dehumanizing to point that fact out, Here is another fact by the way, If you add up every stream sonny has done for the past 6 months, He made less in supas than he did on his birthday

>>73259957
To be fair, anyone who didn't think Doki had a massive and fickle dramatard viewership at the beginning had to be on something real strong. Viewership is only an issue if for whatever reason she ends up plateauing below Selen numbers, mostly because of sisters.

>>73268203
>sister says as she moves the goalposts now that she got called out KEK

Reminder that one of the doggos get 80% of the money... while the other is poor...

Wasn't this stream 2 weeks ago? Why bring it up now?

>>73268290
Didn't sonny's fujos also moneybomb him strictly to try and "own" some detractors saying NijiEN is dying anyway?

>>73267714
>Pomu says THE Elira Pendora then goes on for three minutes about the account she was on when she played Minecraft with her
>"This means she hates Elira"
>Pomu never says Selen's or Doki's name. Says she shit herself and doesn't want her kind of image. This being said in less than five seconds
>"FUCK YEAH, I KNEW POMU WASN'T PART OF THE CLIQUE"

You faggots are the most delusional people known to the globe. You are the laughing stock of the rest of civilization

>>73268213
Even if you only count 50% of the countdown numbers as belonging to each one of them, Adding that half to mococo's numbers pushes her above sonny's birthday, Also UNLIKE smelly bozo sketchek the guy who faked his own death for money Fuwamoco actually get superchats on days that AREN'T their birthday

>>73268426
They're really scraping the barrel to deflect from Nijisanji's failures.

>>73268374
Fuwawa did nothing wrong.

>73268434
>You are the laughing stock of the rest of civilization
Nah that's you SEA pagpag nijinigger sis

>73268434
>Pomu says THE Elira Pendora then goes on for three minutes about the account she was on when she played Minecraft with her
Show the clip of her saying exactly what you are describing or shut the fuck up

>>73268213
>Let's compare birthday streams
>Let's add up 3 different birthday streams into a single one
Just admit you lost

>>73268374
She's not poor, she lives with me so she doesn't need as much

You chose to participate in this thread.

>73268531
I thought sisters were confident on their dear livers but once they get BTFO they cope and make up headcanon

How are Nijifans so vile that they somehow drag Holos into this? Fucking retards.

>>73268434
Irony coming from a Nijinig

>>73268606
Their own livers are in the ruin so they have to deflect

>>73268606
>Haha look at their numbers, Nijis will never get close to muh numbers
>NOOOO HE CAN'T MOG HOLO BIRTHDAYS ADD THEM ALL UP

When you live in a glass house and all that

>>73268531
>Let's take this guy's only good stream in a year and say it mogs every other person ever despite his total numbers being the second lowest in total supas in his own gen
Kek okay buddy

>>73267924
>The simplest answer for him not signing the contract was because he didn't want to and not because he couldn't. Prove he couldn't.
I want to hear from the source, stop gatekeeping me away from any possibility of learning the truth.

>Also the irony of complaining about doctored evidence while blindly believing everything in the Raziel document is fucking gold
"I don't believe this bitch, because she is being fake and gay". Meanwhile all evidence is in violation with Luca's contract. Sure, let's say Luca adds his own libel towards Raziel. Like her pussy stinks, or that she is overweight. Sisters will interpret that Luca ate Raziel at the Y, and mald "it should have been me".

>She didn't write the milestone message, she only handwrote it. She did do his signature for him. I never said otherwise
So you accept the fact that Luca is a lazy twat, incapable of making his own schedules?

>I accept your concession. The burger flipper has 0 involvement in the decision making process of what goes on the menu
A burger flipper is a wagie to the company so that the supply (new burger flavor) is delivered to the demand (customers). They are involved with the decision making process, so that the executives don't have to do minimum wage labor, holy shit. You can't make this shit up.

>>73268374
Atleast Mococo gets a better cut than the organs lol

>>73268762
(Me) I forgot the picrel

>>73268761
You're retarded.

>>73268761
See >>73268762
And cope

>>73268761
>When you live in a glass house and all that
Yes it sucks that Niji is crumbling sis

>>73268761
>Sonny only has 1 good stream a year and made less than half of what he did on his birthday in the last 3 months of streaming combined
>NOOOO DON'T LOOK AT TOAL NUMBERS HE IS MOGGING MOGGING MOGGING MOGGGIIIIIIIINNNNGGGGGG

dooki cant even do good asmr, all that supas and she wont even kisses her fans back once. even laughing off at a guy confessing that he wants to marry her back when she was a niji liver. she even finds you dragoons disgusting lmao.

Nijisisters, no one is ever going to take you seriously when you think anyone beyond elementary school is seriously offended by being called "Dookie" or using "peepeepoopoo" humor.

>73268941
>ESL
>Parasocial Fucks
bad baiit

>73268941
>Finana
>PARASOCIAL FUCKS
>Educate Yourself

>73268434
>Mint reads a comment that says Nova's name, immediately moves on and starts talking about her Minecraft account
>Mint reads a comment that references Selen's username then proceeds to make a joke that is a reference to a Selen stream

>>73268475
>faked his own death for money
Last I checked, he faked his death so he'd have an excuse to stop making youtube videos.
It was still a terrible idea and a terrible thing to do to his fans—you don't need to embellish things to make him sound bad.

>73268941
She did more for her Dragoons than any Niji when she was Selen, also enjoy the gacha weeks lmao

>>73268788
>I want to hear from the source, stop gatekeeping me away from any possibility of learning the truth
Apparently the truth is whatever the voices in your head say it is. I'm operating under the assumption that the screenshots and pictures in Raziel's document aren't fake. You're the one making shit up on top of me giving the benefit of the doubt
>Hiring someone to do grunt work for you is you being a lazy twat
You're a retard
>Burger flippers cook so this means they have say in how the company is managed
They have no say. Absolutely zero on what goes on the menu. They're hired to cook. Not help in the company wide decision making process. Stop strawmanning

>>73269036
Don't listen to these retards, it was already proved he removed monetization on his channel after the video where he faked his death was posted and no one proved he ever got a single cent during that time

>>73268809
>Proves that the guy who mogged Hololive birthdays wasn't even the most popular in his gen
Grim

kek, fags still trying to smear feesh from her defending fellow liver vox nearly 2 years ago. without realising that current feesh is parasocial as hell with her fanbase, unlike dooki who views dragoons as cashbags and atms for her to grift so she can blow another 200k on stupid projects lmao.

>73269436
I would worry more about your own oshi instead of obsessing over others. not even 2 finanas KEK

>>73262008
>Claude revealed that people can ask for the play button
So why haven't they?

>73269421
If you add up literally every single sonny brisko stream since the start of SEPTEMBER it comes out to a total of 22078... For every stream since september except for his birthday
Fuwamoco made over 178k in just the last 3 months, Who is mogging who again?, Why are you retards so proud of a bunch of bugs who ONLY donate to their oshi once a year?

>73269421
>Mogged hololive birthdays
Holochads don't save all their donations to boost up one singular stream a year, They spread them out across gen anniversaries and 3d lives (which sonny does not and will never have on his own)

>>73269563
>8 US Dollars
wew

>73269436
>Imagine having to be one of the last 300 finana viewers in order to verify this sister's claims
Grim

>>73269610
And they still couldn't beat him in birthday streams post Niji drama? Embarrassing for you, numberfags. You even resorted to adding three streams into one

>>73269563 (me)
it gets worse

>73269744
>HIS ONE VERY SPECIAL STREAM A YEAR IS REALLY IMPORTANT OKAY????, WE SAVED UP OUR JOLLIBEE WAGES ALLLLL YEEEEAAAAARRRR TO DONATE TO OUR PRECIOUS SON PLEASE DON'T MOCK US PLEEEEAAAAAASSSSEEEEE
Pathetic

>>73269436
Shut up and go watch her stream, fishstick.
You DO realize that you can enjoy something without needing to blindly throw shit at everything else, right?

>73269744
>Our best organ of the last 3 months combined got half of what a hag's 3 million subscriber countdown
Grim

>>73269436
good morning to you too millie

>>73270030
>Imagining any nijifaggot getting even 2 million subs on youtube let alone 3 million
Kekaroo

>>73262092
>NijiEN will lose to a coffee company
Poetic

>>73267614
jesus christ sister at least hide the seams on the shitty red paint png you copied
put some effort in
also your rope jpeg is shit

im watching her stream right now, enjoy your oshi not loving u back like my oshi does to me, faggoon.

>73270170
>enjoy your oshi not loving u back like my oshi does to me
okay now this is bait.

>>73269842
Cope. Nijisanji EN is thriving

>>73270170
Now I know you're lying because no one watches Finana

>>73269140
>>73269140
We went from
>Groomer releases smear document with cropped evidence and reveals she was actually getting paid for all her work she did for Luca
to
>Apparently the truth is whatever the voices in your head say it is. I'm operating under the assumption that the screenshots and pictures in Raziel's document aren't fake. You're the one making shit up on top of me giving the benefit of the doubt
>Hiring someone to do grunt work for you is you being a lazy twat
So it's okay for Luca to subcontract(violation) the most simplest things when his peers do it on their own?

>They're hired to cook. Not help in the company wide decision making process. Stop strawmanning

Execs: let's release this new flavor because it will make us a lot of money for x amount of time. Franchisers: Okay management, tell your staff to sell these burgers flavors by X quota. Managers: okay burger flippers we gotta sell as many burgers possible, but we also need to sell the new burger flavor. make sure the customers like it. Burger flipper: makes new burger flavor, but the ingredients need more time to prep than what they were trained for Customer: this new burger flavor is shit. Influencer: this new burger flavor is shit. Burger flipper: Manager, these new burger flavors are shit because we werent trained to cook them. Management: franchiser, the customers hate the new burger flavor. Franchiser: Execs, the new flavor did not meet quota because the customers thought our new burger flavor is shit. Execs: 86 that new flavor off our menu before it fucks with our quarter, and go back to our basic shit

>>73270318
don't bother, they only understand with goat analogies

>>73259032
6k is like 20 fish cunts.

>73270235
>NijiEN is thriving
>Rosemi and Petra's 3d debuts COMBINED couldn't beat out Regis Altare's
>NijiEN is thriving
>Sonny Brisko's birthday did more in supas than the rest of his branch's last 3 months combined..... and did more than his personal last 6 months of streaming
>NijiEN is thriving
>There are more 3views than 4views
>NijiEN is thriving
>They just barely got over 10k ccv in their mario kart tournament while hololive's did over 160k ccv
>NijiEN is thriving
>The biggest stream they've had in a full year is pomu's graduation
>NijiEN is thriving
>Doki made 96k in supas in her first 2 months as an indie, Eclipsing the entirety of nijisanji EN's COMBINED earnings including sonny's birthday
>Nijisanji EN is thriving

>>73270266

>>73270491
I can also open the stream and take a screenshot but I don't want my recommendations getting tainted

>>73270491
I hate nijisanji and anycolor but i always thought finana was cute. Don't let the numberfags and trolls get you down ryuguard. just leave this thread and focus on your oshi. She needs you now more than ever

>>73258654
Conglatulations

>>73270266
I actually do watch her sometimes, but I kinda hope that anon you're replying to doesn't.
They say the fanbase reflects their oshi, after all, so shitstirring like this reflects poorly on her.

>73269744
apparently throwing pocket change "once" every year is considered an achievement kek. Why does his fan not do it for the other 364 days?

>>73270446
>Rosemi and Petra's 3d debuts COMBINED couldn't beat out Regis Altare's
There is no fucking way that's true
>Checks
Rosemi and Petra made 5590 combined. Altare made 5029.. That's not more but it really shouldn't have even been close..

>>73270854
If you add in what axel got it's over 8k, Almost double what gen 2 of nijiEN made...

>>73270854
>Comparing nijiEN Gen 2 to fucking homostarsEN
>Homostars is better
This is actually fucking tragic
>Regis altare's birthday stream got more in supas than enna's nier concert
Why is are NijiEN girls even there?, Just scrap them and focus on lux/noc

>>73270318
Yes, a document where she accuses Luca of sexually harassing her while her screenshot proves otherwise is a smear document with cropped evidence . Nothing contradicts what was said and it's already proven subcontracting isn't a violation of the contract because that's basically what commissioners are.

>Burger flippers have no say in the company wide decision making process
>"Actually they do if they're shit at their job, instead of being fired, they'll make someone else affect the entire menu!"
So they don't have any say in what goes on the menu, someone else does and their job is to cook. Also what the fuck is a burger flavor? Were you raised in a lab?

>>73270446
>Nijisanji isn't thriving because other people are rivaling them
Welp. If you're not the uncontested biggest company in the world, you aren't doing good enough.

>73271229
>Nijisanji isn't thriving because other people are rivaling them
>Other people
>Homostars EN and phase connect
>Hololive mario kart did 16x more in ccv than Nijisanji mario kart
ok

>>73271521
>Nijisanji EN men completely mog Holostars and Phase connect
>Cherry pick Gen 2 NijiEN girls, one with copyright fuckery happening vs Gen 1 Holostars
>Ignore that NijiFes mogged Holofes

>>73271676
>>Nijisanji EN men completely mog Holostars and Phase connect
We're not in 2022 anymore.
>>Cherry pick Gen 2 NijiEN girls, one with copyright fuckery happening vs Gen 1 Holostars
Still males, still pathetic
>Ignore that NijiFes mogged Holofes
I also love blatantly lying on the internet

>>73271676
>>Ignore that NijiFes mogged Holofes
Oh you're THAT schizo. Rumao.
Sister you should get some sleep I'm getting worried about you, you've been defending Kurosanji all day

>73271676
>Nijisanji EN men completely mog Holostars and Phase connect
The only ones doing that are sonny and fulgur (and sonny only """wins""" cause he had is yearly special good boy stream), Check the rest of the nijimale numbers
>Ignore that NijiFes mogged Holofes
Nijifes had 60k attendees and Holofes had 80k, Who was mogged?

Why is nijiEN even a thing? >>73271368

I'm new to this vtubing thing, but why the fans of this niji company show stats of some faggots streaming I thought it was just cute anime girls

>>73259953
shhh let them have this. It's better than them going nuts and hounding a woman still recovering from Niji trauma.

>>73260771
>sonny mogging holoEN's birthdays

>>73260771
>Mogged holoEN
DYRBI?

>>73272300
>>73272422
>>73272555
>Double dubs and trips
Sonny might as well repeat his magnum opus from his TF2 days and fake kill himself!

>>73272129
> Regis Altare Superchat last 7 days: 493
> Ike Eveland Superchat last 7 days: 1,243

So much for that
>Nijifes had 60k attendees and Holofes had 80k, Who was mogged?
Holofes in CCV and online tickets

>>73272422
If you take half of the birthday countdown and combine it with mococo's birthday you get 25058, Which beats out sonny on it's own for those saying it doesn't count cause two people

>>73272555
Mumei cute :3

>>73272422
I'm counting three streams that don't have more than Sonny's. If you want to add up different birthday streams, then you should be okay with me adding up his other birthdays, right?
>>73272555
ESL can't read the word birthday

>>73272422
>just add up 3 different streams
LMAOOOOOOOOOO YOU LOST HOLOKEK

>>73272760
They are birthday streams just like the Sonny stream. Also you brought up FWMC first. Keep coping.

>>73272615
>fake kill himself
Can't you guys at least do the bare minimum research before running your mouths?
His fake death was from illness, not suicide.

>73272617
>Holofes in CCV and online tickets
You have the online ticket sale numbers for Nijifes and holofes?,

Nijisanji got too much male (faggots) vtubers

>73272712
>NOOOOOOO IT DOESN'T COUNT IT DOESN'T COUNT IT DOESN'T COUNT PLEASE COMPARE US IN THE MOST POSSIBLE FAVORABLE WAAAAAYYYYYY PLEEEEAAAAAAASSSSEEEEEE
I don't give a fuck that Smelly Bozo's bugs only pay him on one singular day a year, Take his average supas and he is bottom of the barrel, If you don't count his birthday literally only made 22k in supas since the start of september last year

>>73272760

Read this and cope >>73273210

>73272760
>Look at how proud we are that we saved up our jollibee salaries for an entire year to pay our special fake illness boy on his birthday don't pay any attention to the other 364 days of the year pwetty pwease it doesn't count uwu

>>73273210
>PLEASE COMPARE US IN THE MOST POSSIBLE FAVORABLE WAAAAAYYYYYY
>Adds up three different birthday streams to contest against one.

Well if you add up Sonny's three different birthday streams, he mogs so hard it's not funny. Do you want me to do that for you? It's only fair, right?

>>73269223
Actually, if you check, you can see that even on the day after through the wayback machine, the donate button was still active.
>It's ok if I mugged someone because you can't prove that I made any money after stabbing them.

>73273592
>2 years to farm supas
vs
>not even 1

Your response Nijikek?

>>73273592
>3 birthday streams across three years
>Still not enough to mog FWMC in life-time superchats
Kek

>>73274074
>"The donate button was still active"
>Wasn't even after the death video
>In every other screenshot posted after the death video, the button is gone
>Not a single person ever came out and said they gave him money after years

I guess I'll just trust you on someone definitely paying him with no evidence

>>73274111
>>73274113
>Let's compare birthday streams
>Let's add up three different birthday streams
>Let's just count lifetime supers

The flowchart

>>73274352
Still coping and deflecting
Kek

>>73274352
>it was all a bait to make them post fwmc vs sonny all time earnings
not to rub it in your face but you got BTFO lol

>>73274233
Even if the donate button was still active, why would anyone have given him money if they thought he was fucking dead?

>>73271676
sister, SUISEI mogged Nijifes.
Not hololive, a single girl.
>>73272712
>>73272760
They share a channel, they share a birthday celebration. They were both massively active in all parts of it. You'll need this angle if you want to argue Luca makes anything from his birthday, too, so you really don't want to shut this one down, sisters.

Not that it matters since they've made more in 4 months than Sonny has in his entire career.

>>73274565
wait, so your argument is that because he tried and MIGHT have failed, he shouldn't be judged for even attempting to do one of the most reprehensible scams you could do on the internet?

>>73274669
bots are pretty cheap these days huh

>>73274758
>thinking bots would have any possible effect on suisei's numbers.
You really don't understand how big Suisei is.

>>73274669
>"They share a birthday celebration"

They have three different streams. One being both of them. And the other two being them individually. Having to share a channel means jack shit. If you're adding up three different streams then I'll add up Sonny's 3 birthdays

Lots of shit on catalogue about Dokibird today, sisters must be seething hard

>>73274964
it's one schizo that's been seething literally all day

>>73274937
>can't cope with the fact his yellow shitter only gets paid once a year while other Holos get showered in money all year long

>>73274752
Not sure I'd say I'm making an argument, just questioning the logic behind (You)rs.
If he did in fact leave the donate button up then yeah it's pretty sketchy(heh), but would he really have been dumb enough to think people would throw money at a corpse? If he was really trying to scam his viewers, faking his death outright wouldn't have made sense; he could've just made up some BS about medical bills or something as an excuse for a hiatus.

Most of super chats are from chinks and pajeets, remember that

>>73274937
>one birthday celebration
>three birthdays which make up 20% of the man's ENTIRE revenue since his debut.
Do you really want to try comparing things farther than just one day? It only gets sadder if you remember they've barely streamed since February.

>>73275296
The donate button was active throughout the months he was pretending to be terminally ill. His "donations" were so people would pay for his "treatment."
It was taken so seriously that TF2 itself renamed a weapon as tribute for him... which they immediately removed once it was exposed that the fucker was not only never sick, but that he wasn't even sorry for that shit and just kept trying to excuse it as "a funny joke that went too far." A person ACTUALLY died of cancer like a month before he did that shit, so people took it very seriously.

>>73275749
>Most of super chats
So are you a chink or a pajeet?
Imagine sending money lmao

>>73275928(me)
whoops, somehow the image wasn't included.

>>73275938
I'm just here for lulz, I don't even watch vtubers

imagine comparing sonny to marine, thats like comparing bijo to salome, mito, toya or kuzuha, retards.

>>73276550
schizophrenia?
where did anyone talk about this in the thread?

>>73276550
ok, so let's compare him to someone who debuted around the same period. Someone part of that whole "council has flopped" club even.
Reminder that superchats were only open for a grand total of 2 minutes.

>>73270030
>>73276780

>>73275928
>The donate button was active throughout the months he was pretending to be terminally ill
Fair enough, I'll concede the point. Could've sworn I heard that he did actually apologize when he came back, though. Also Valve didn't *rename* a weapon after him; the tribute was a shout-out in the item stats
Putting aside the specifics, I agree that what he did was pretty indisputably awful. I haven't watched any of his content since then (as a vtuber or otherwise), so I don't really know whether he actually learned from his mistakes, but considering that it's been nearly a decade I'd certainly hope he's grown as a person by now.

Jesus Christ Nijitrannies are fucking delusional.
Your branch is in the shitter. Any form of good will with general audiences is permanently fucked. Lots of big name e-celebs and their followers hate you, all the bridges burned, even with noteworthy sponsors.
Most of your niji organ intestines are hard stuck at 3views with negative sub growth.
And you still DARE to come here to shit on others.
Niji subhumans are a toxic blight to this community, you deserve every bit of the hate you get and more.

>>73276988
He did apologize, but it was more of a "Sorry I got caught" apology. He only came clean once people noticed his steam accounts were active again if I remember right.
He was young and stupid, and I honestly don't give a shit or have a horse in this race, but it's fucking insane that people are using HIM as an attack on Doki when talking about her suicide attempts.

>>73259310
I watched it. It sucked. After that came Aia, and it was so painfully terrible I bailed after five or so minutes and never watched another Njii debut again. And post-Zaion I never will.

>>73276784
mumei has more paying fans plus it was a drawing request stream begging sc, and sonny is no luxiem. he still got 22k in a debuffed drama period, impressive to say the least.

>>73277404
The only impressive thing here is your goalpost moving and mental gymnastics

>>73277404
Kinda, but his whole career is still weird. He definitely makes money, but the whole "he only makes significant money on birthdays" is just bizarre. He's the only one I know of who's like this.

Can someone explain the "mogging EN birthday" discurssion?

>>73277457
not as impressive as dooki selling toilet papers for 4k usd to faggoons lmao.

>>73277576
Yeah, for one they're at least smart enough to use the same currency to compare.

>>73277592
You mean when she donated 4450 USD to charity and then gave the donator a prize for winning the auction?

>73277592
>gets btfo
>deflects

>>73277576
>Can someone explain the "mogging EN birthday" discurssion?
Mogging is when someone beats Gura

>>73277954
CHUMBUDS ???????? AIEEEEEEEE

>73277592
>still seething about a sheet of printer paper being worth more than Enna's concert + birthday and some shitter NijiENs' entire careers
kekaroo

>>73277954
>not even 5 digits
holy fucking grim

>>73258654
SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL

>>73277954
They're busy buying merch because they know that unlike in Nijisanji, hologirls get far more from merch than they do superchats.
And on top of that, they actually get something tangible out of that, not a fucking sticker or overpriced t-shirt with their debut art on it.

>>73277749
You can really see how it got twisted in a game of telephone between Sisters over the weeks. Too bad anyone who knows even a little context can disprove it.

Starts as
>Gag piece of printer paper with her signature up for a charity auction, winning bid is $4,450
Becomes
>Selling a blank piece of paper to Dragoons because they're simps
Distorted into
>selling toilet papers for 4k usd to faggoons lmao

Sis, I don't know what's worse - you presenting this in bad faith or you actually believing it.

>>73259310
You mean 30k people and 50k bots.

>>73278708
iluna came after noctyx. I can totally see it being real.

>>73278708
HOLOSEETHE

>>73278843
what's the point of seething about a debut if he went from 90k to sub 300 ccv?
Bots or not, that's just fucking pathetic to have THAT much exposure and not be able to keep or grow off of any of it.

>>73278843
>holoseeth
>from 79k on debut stream to like 1 finana ccv onwards

I just feel ashame for you sister. try to watch your organ rather be camping here.