/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>73213023
Whichever will farm more (You)s.

I hope they're still chummy and stream together sometime soon. I'd be disappointed if it doesn't happen, much like how I will if my oshi joins the WHORES in vshojo

>Parasocial fans really taking """friendships""" made in a corpo seriously
>Ignores doki's words saying she is mostly focused on trying new things and making new friends from now on
>Mint's entire comeback is owed to matara who is in bed with elira enna millie reimu and co
Honestly it doesn't matter either way but i think dramafaggots reading too much into this is really funny as people on every side seethes and tries to argue that THEIR headcanon is the true objective fact

>>73213023
It's all just a kayfabe.

>>73213023
Pomu only just redebuted, and she's not even back to being a full-time streamer yet.
Maybe when she gets back into the groove they will collab, or maybe they won't.
Either way, speculating about it like a gossping housewife is faggotry behavior.

I swear Mint made a reference to her yesterday, I gotta find it one sec.

>>73217227
>literally flew to japan last minute to hang out with pomu
ogey

They've both made references to each other, they're probably just waiting until the drama dies down, which unironically includes NijiEN returning to "normal" (or as normal as they can be), which won't be for a while because Elira hasn't returned to streaming yet.

They've both made references to each other, they're probably just waiting until the drama dies down, which unironically includes waiting for NijiEN to return to "normal" (or as normal as they can be), which won't be for a while because Elira hasn't returned to streaming yet (a guaranteed drama flare-up).

>>73217579
It's at 4:56:08 on the Pachislot stream, I knew I wasn't hallucinating.

>>73213023
anon,pomu choose matara which is the elra clique,thats is the truth, anyone who think otherwise are delusional they dont even talk ONCE,not even ONCE after that shitshow happened, dragoon already accept it.

>>73217579
https://youtu.be/-ZVmZEpVox0?t=189

>>73213023
Yes. Now they will have a ultra hot angry bestial yuri hate sex with each other to make up for it while Elira sits on her cuck chair begging for Pomu to stop.

>>73213023
Yes, next.

>>73213023
Matara said she's waiting a couple of weeks before she invites Mint to collabs, so it will likely be a little while before Mint collabs with anyone.

>>73218246
>That sounds like a name someone who shits themselves would take
well there it is folks concrete evidence pack it up she is a bully and she picked her side

>>73219106
And people have been coping this entire time.

>>73219106
Hey newfag atleast TRY to do the smallest amount of research before saying something in future okay? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW_PwaSZZLw

>>73219106
>dramafaggot doesn't know the reference
There's a reason the Mint and Doki threads were happy with this reference

>>73219240
>>73219217

>>73219106
i mean how many proof that ppl want? shes literally like "oh yeah,matara,mint,quinn is COOL,sayu? doki? who is that? never heard of it" not even a single twitter interaction,watch next they will talk with elira and enna and ppl will cry again saying "how is this even possible"

>>73219240
>>73219274
Don't fucking spoonfeed them IDIOTS. Them not knowing makes it easy to spot dramafags and ignore them.

>>73219274
>There's a reason the Mint and Doki threads were happy with this reference
more like coping which is what they do all this time or you wanna talk about "selen is okay,you guys are dramafag schizo thinking her tweet isnt her and shes killing herself,NO WAY THATS IMPOSSIBLE" and here we are

>>73219558
Come on anon, that's the lowest tier sarcasm ever, they don't even seem to be pretending to be sisters.

>>73219536
>>73219772
Sounds like you're the one coping here

>>73219931
sure,like the skinwalk tweet is true,selen try to kill herself is true,the stealth suspension is true,she got terminated is also true and JUST AFTER SHE REDEBUT SHE COLLAB WITH EX NIJI WHICH IS YUGO thats also true,what about the "well beloved" nina and pomu? wheres the collab? no,forget collab,just them talk and supporting each other? yeah thats not happening anon,unless you can provide proof

>>73220184
Nobody is going to take you seriously until you brush up on your English.

>>73220258
nobody taking you seriously knowing how much you cope and in denial and keep getting fucked over and over like an idiot,like even now you still cant provide proof while what i'm saying is true and already happen

>>73213023
I was about to make a post addressing this but forgot. No, they don't. The reason you don't see them interacting at the moment comes down to two things, one professional, one personal.

On the professional side, if you go back to an indie presence, it's more or less like a redebut for you. Talents get always told to wait some time before collabjng with others to establish their own presence and brand, fo avoid being seen as tagalongs that cant function without the other. It's makes good business sense.

This is only exasperated by the image they have in the public, how well they are liked as a unit. If they interacted, even through a like or follow, people would interpret that as some sort of statement against niji and the clique. Matara is far enough removed from this situation, Doki's experience is still fresh on her and the publics mind by comparison.

On the personal side, there might be some feelings of awkwardness and insecurity about how to proceed and leave behind their past. Between Dokis attempts and pomu saying she wished she could have done more(which may or may not relate to Doki directly), Mint has still just come back a few days ago officially, and has a lot to worry about in terms of how to plan ahead. She is far less organized than Doki in that regard.

Pomu talked fondly about selen until her graduation, and Selen spent a lot of time snd money getting their paired outfits promoted. If their relationship would soured, it would have happened slowly over the course of months, and we would have never seen them collab like they did in 2023. That rat simply has no legs, even with all the
>but Elira and her went to x!
I don't doubt for a second they haven't talked since in private, and I don't doubt t they will interact again once things settle down a bit with the public, niji, and the discontent with the clique the opportunity and the opportunity presents itself.

I can wait. I suggest you do too. By the way, if I was a thief, the best partner in crime I could wish for would be a ghost maid who could slip past any security and pretend she's just cleaning the place if caught.

>>73220820
So are they going to have a hot passionate yuri hate sex or not??????

>>73213023
They make secret sojourns to each other's discords to do erotic ASMR, recording each other loudly masturbating into the mic.

>>73220820
>On the professional side, if you go back to an indie presence, it's more or less like a redebut for you. Talents get always told to wait some time before collabjng with others to establish their own presence and brand, fo avoid being seen as tagalongs that cant function without the other. It's makes good business sense.
This would feel a lot more valid if Mint's first new stream wasn't a podcast with the bug bitch.

>>73220820
>full cope
anon,hold the cope,you never learn? its not even a year ago that all your cope are destroyed
>Pomu talked fondly about selen until her graduation
exactly,now they dont even TALK,not even a single tweet,give a 1 tweet ill take my words,but nope,you cant do that right? stop the cope,its genuinely sad now at this point.

>>73219558
Honestly it was a nice reminder. I watched the stream live but it was a long time ago and forgot that specific point.

>>73221246
I like how you removed "referencing each other" from your list of things they should do

>>73221197
Bug bitch isn't considered part of the clique tho. I assume there are still things the public doesn't know about what wnt on with each member at niji, so I ain't going all out speculating about who took sides and so on. Mint came from Nova's friends circle, and maybe they're still friends, who knows. Anyone who has ever had two friends who ended up fighting knows that it can get very messy if you're caught in the middle.

>>73221246
Doki knows she's radioactive at the moment. Any public interaction between her and former coworkers could stir up drama she doesn't want for herself and others. These social dynamics are common in larger social groups with different overlapping subfactions.

I'm just analyzing this from a semi outside viewpoint based on information I've gathered from what my other oshis, past and present had to say about how things work behind the scenes in vtubing. You don't have to believe me, but calling what I said coping is needlessly pessimistic.

>>73221197
she even shilled that fag quinn so fuckng hard when doki all by herself

yuri sex when

>>73221441
>I like how you removed "referencing each other" from your list of things they should do
>things they should do
talk? like just interact normally,because like you said before "pomu fond of selen" oh yeah,thats why they will collab,oh wait,thats not happening either,so whos the one that come with Bullshit here? you guys talk about being schizo dramafag yet you are the one who pick "random referrence" over actual interaction

>>73222418
Doki needs absolutely 0 help with shilling herself.

>>73220184
ESL-kun I have no idea what you're trying to say here. The words you're using are all correct but the way you string them together is just god awful. Why don't you take a breath and try again? Seriously, not even trying to bust your balls, just calm down a bit and keep it as simple and straightforward as you can.

>>73221649
>Bug bitch isn't considered part of the clique tho
she is part of the clique,her problem is not the clique that made her quit niji,its the management and those fuckng nijisister,her relationship with clique are great,you forgot her with millie before? meanwhile with doki and sayu,which is the "enemy" of the clique are COMPLETELY different.

This board is really full of gossip loving women...

>>73222705
but she need support,to bad thats not the one pomu,kuro or matara give to her,meanwhile yugo just straight up collab with her,so yeah there is no "excuses"

>>73222770
sister,try harder

>>73222873
>but she need support
No she doesn't, she's doing amazingly fine by herself. She's got like 700k subs, a dedicated viewerbase, a merch shop, a management team, she's getting invited to cons, etc etc. She doesn't need any outside help from anybody.

>>73222232
hmm yeah,sure you can ask dragoon because i'm 100% sure they can show you one of the first person doki collab after comeback is yugo aka unnamed,you know,another ex Niji en,what happen to matara and pomu? i thought they are friend

>Spoonfeeding catalog
You should know better. This isn't a "victory" you want.

>>73222992
>No she doesn't
ok sister,next one you will show her "sins" and that doki deserve to get fucked

>>73223151
>making up shit because you know everything I said is 100% right
I accept your concession :)

>>73222798
>This board is really full of gossip loving women
>the first line of thread in catalog are /nijien/ /nijienmen/ /cbdct/ which is full of nijisister
NO SHIT SHERLOCK

>>73217708
Who? Enna?

>>73223314
Selen

>>73223246
>>making up shit
>doki doesnt need support
always,the same exact thing you always said about sayu and doki that these ppl doesnt need support,its their fault yadayadayada.

>>73223366
>>>making up shit
Like what?
Does Doki not have close to 700k subs?
Does she not have a dedicated viewerbase?
Does she not have a merch shop?
Does she not have a management team?
Is she not getting invited to cons?
Which one of those is "made up"?

And here i thought these entire drama is just a very well elaborated story for a very hot and steamy yuri hate sex. What a waste of time.

>>73223664
you either trying hard to shitpost or actually retarded? or dont tell me next you gonna say "there is no suicide attempt,there is no bullying,doki just made that shit up" when doki herself already say it clearly,which is why her actual "friend" come to her and defend her like rpr and mumei who actually come to her irl helping her,meanwhile matara and pomu be like: "what doki? what sayu? what is that? never heard of it.oh btw SUPPORT QUINN,HES SO COOL,HE TRIGGER MY MOTHER SIDE" yeah quinn is the one that "need support" amirite sister?

>>73218782
So does Matara have Mint on a leash now ? Because fuck that

>>73224274
Pretty much.

>>73224201
Pomu never said any of the shit you said. Sounds like YOU'RE the one making shit up.

>>73221246
Bug bitch is definitely friends with the clique

>>73224201
He's unironically a 3view now so yeah he needs all the support he could get kek

>>73224370
okay you are actually RETARDED

>>73213023
Mint referred to her during the Pachislot stream so we'll see.
I feel like there's two possibilities atm.
Either they talked in private and agreed to keep their space for a while because of the drama going on.
or they had a falling out at some point.

>>73224469
yeah,there is alot of sister trying to falseflag and some that are still coping that they are not part of the clique while matara openly like that while ignoring sayu and doki for quinn instead

>>73224201
>and pomu be like: "what doki? what sayu? what is that? never heard of it"
Meanwhile, in this very thread, we have timestamps of Pomu referencing her Freaky Friday collab with Selen.
Are you legitimately retarded?

>>73224559
Then where's your proof?

>>73224274
More like she's the one pushing Mint out the door to steam. Remember she wanted to work at a grocery store.

>>73223331
When?

I don't understand the commas ESL, do they think they're not obvious? Do they think they're going to convince anyone making angry monkey noises like that? I guess it's because people keep feeding them (You)s.

>>73224661
oh really,now she talk about doki? about their next collab? you know whats the big deal? yugo/unnamed straight up collab with doki,what drama to worry about? its not me or everyone else that made it "drama" because they can just collab or if they are busy,just talk and interact like "NORMAL" because the only one that will have problem with them interacting normally is THE FUCKNG CLIQUE. use your brain,ATLEAST ONCE.

>>73224803
Back in October 2022

>>73222950
I realize that trying to communicate in a language you barely understand is likely strange and frightening new territory for you but you should know that failing to make yourself clearly understood doesn't make everyone else your sister, especially when half of your posts read like ndf copypasta.

>>73224734
what proof? the fact that they are still memoryholed sayu and doki? the ONLY one that clique and nijisister hate? because she sure okay with quinn or you want proof for that too? like i said,ill take my words if they are actually interacting and collab normally,but the truth is thats not happening

>>73224874
Not every mention of someone has to be about collabing. What are you, a collab beggar?
Yugo graduated over a year before the drama happened, so he's far enough removed that nobody cares about him.
And making this all into drama is literally what you're trying to do. "Those references they've both made to each other? Doesn't count, I need to fuel the DRAMA!"

>>73213892
>Mint's entire comeback is owed to matara
Is it though? She was gonna come back either way. No way in hell was she just not going to take advantage of her popularity.

>>73224890
>especially when half of your posts read like ndf copypasta.
>>"doki doesnt need support" this is what ndf copypast look like

>>73224890
Yeah. I remembered after posting. I thought you were talking about while Mint was in Japan as dearsqn

Am I the only one who thinks that in order to get a proper graduation, nijis must have to sign some kind of anti-defamation contract which would also stipulates not associating with terminated talents? It would explain why we've heard absolutely nothing from them whether positive or negative in regards to doki

>>73225047
memoryhole? nigga, pomu literally referenced selen yesterday, there's a timestamp in this very thread.

>>73225124
>No way in hell was she just not going to take advantage of her popularity.
That's what everyone was thinking until she started talking about unironically looking for a grocery store to work at.

>>73225121
>Not every mention of someone has to be about collabing. What are you, a collab beggar?
if they are busy,just talk and interact like "NORMAL"
>making this all into drama is literally what you're trying to do
i'm not matara and mint sister,i'm not the one who completely ignoring their so called "friend" that literally got fucked by their former company and the bully clique,like i said,if you can proof it that they are interacting normally publicly because they are not part of "clique" ill take my words back and you are right,but thats not happening,any better excuses?

>>73224874
Go take your meds seafag, you're making shit up and you type like an alzheimer patient

>>73225166
>Am I the only one who thinks that in order to get a proper graduation, nijis must have to sign some kind of anti-defamation contract which would also stipulates not associating with terminated talents? It would explain why we've heard absolutely nothing from them whether positive or negative in regards to doki
yugo technically not terminated,still loved by sister and yet collab with doki,so wheres the problem?

>>73225505
>Go take your meds seafag, you're making shit up and you type like an alzheimer patient
projecting much sister? the one who cant show proof here is you and coping that they are act normally which they dont.

just a reminder for all sisters ITT
>Aia hinted at graduating and reactivated her PL
>Scarle reactivated her PL after getting harassed by nijisisters over fucking Starbucks
>Ren has been doomposting on his PL.
>Kotoka is on an infinite "mental health" break and will most likely graduate
>Millie's outfit reveal being a flop
>MK tournament flopped, couldn't even beat Korone
>Rosemi's 3D debut being the worst in Niji history
>Vox fucked off to be a white monkey on bilibili like a bitch, still gets shit views
>Elira is hiding on collab streams, can't bother doing a solo stream on her channel
>Luca shitshow and blatant favoritism
>Virtual Rhapsody SEA concert is a glorified L2D Karaoke
>The concert is selling so badly they are removing purchase limits
>AR Colors rushed out and edited a lot of footage due to graduated livers
>3D showcases being rushed out before Q4, will definitely flop
>The latest niji gen still can't get to 100k subs and almost never reach more than 3 finanas of CCV
>Stocks are stagnated and will fall once the sales ban is lifted
niji is DEAD

>>73225518
Yugo's graduation was a bit odd. Still, it could be that nijisanji changed how they deal with graduations after the zaion shit went down. I've got nothing to prove any of this of course, just makes me wonder

>>73225518
"Technically" is doing a lot of heavy lifting.
It is very likely Yugo lawyered up and has been able to negotiate better terms than everyone else. Yugo is clearly a special case.

>>73225801
Plus, Yugo was the first to leave the branch, so management had no "association with terminated talents" thing to worry about - because there were no other terminated talents.

>>73225791
yeah but if the argument that "they sign nda so they can graduate normally but they need to stay away from someone like doki" then why she just collab with doki? and again yugo are well loved by nijisister and yet she doesnt care,meanwhile matara and pomu straight up act like doki never exist or never know her

Mint is still friends with both Elira and Doki

>>73220820
the people who've paid attention to either know this, but I was hoping we'd at least go a few more days before it leaked out. We know the sisters don't watch streams so they'd never understand dogwhistles.

>>73226061
No one is making that argument, that statement isn't even factually true, and you're fighting air at this point. Take your meds and sit down

>>73224201
anon calm the fuck down. You're being dumb.
The reason doki didn't need matara's support is because Matara's smaller than Doki. Matara can't do her whole saviorfag "I'm such a good mom" grift with someone who SHE would be leeching off of.

Either way, expect for a lot of seething on Tuesday. Prepare your generals.

>>73226061
Yugo graduated over a year before any of this shit went down. "Not collabing with Doki" wasn't even on their radar in 2022.
>pomu straight up act like doki never exist or never know her
Why do you keep on saying this when there's literally timestamps in this very thread of Pomu referencing her Freaky Friday collab with Selen? If she wanted to act like she never existed, she wouldn't have made that reference at all. She would have said "Huh? I don't get it" or something. But she didn't, instead she made a reference to Selen.

Future collabs or not, eventually we'll get some cute DokiMint art, but in the meantime, postion cute Pomulen is more than enough.

>>73226226
Yeah, NDF bait is derived from misunderstanding verbiage and/or lacking context, which gets distorted further in their echo chambers before being shat out here.

>>73226019
i mean lets be honest here just like Legal mindset said,it doesnt really matter after they are out and they are in JP too

>>73226351
stop projecting and take your meds>>73226356

>>73226424
I think that person may be legitimately brain damaged, trying to get them to understand is a waste of time

>>73226356
no you are just coping hard|
the reason matara ignoring doki entirely because she is part of the clique,she doesnt need to support or collab? fine,but to act like doki never exist? now that is completely different thing,both matara and pomu are straight up "oh niji is shit,theres shitshow about niji,but we dont know who is the victim of that shitshow,trust us,we never heard of this person called doki"

>>73226356
Wait whats on Tuesday?

>>73226808
Mint is playing Shinkanesen 0

>>73226424
>Yugo graduated over a year before any of this shit went down. "Not collabing with Doki" wasn't even on their radar in 2022
well its a big deal for the clique,but yet yugo doesnt care and everything is cool,so whats the problem for matara and pomu?
>Why do you keep on saying this when there's literally timestamps in this very thread of Pomu referencing her Freaky Friday collab with Selen? If she wanted to act like she never existed, she wouldn't have made that reference at all. She would have said "Huh? I don't get it" or something. But she didn't, instead she made a reference to Selen
oh she talk about doki? nope

>>73226833
Oh right, the doki reference

>>73226833
Eh, considering Mint had no issue referencing her old collab with Selen, I doubt there will be any negative reaction there.

>>73226808
Nothing. Don't worry about it. Just prepare for seethe.

Absolute parasocial children if you care of people you don't know are internet friends or not.

Most all vtubers are coworkers and collabs are largely business decisions to help their growth.

It's honestly just a lot of people who never grew past high-school parasocially digging into people personal lives.

You just KNOW when Elira gets terminated Mint is gonna sit her and Doki down in front of each other and go "Now, KISS!"

There's a few other couples in the vtubing scene that get along this well with one another in a bromance like sense. They're my favorites to watch. It's fun seeing people enjoying each other's company in such a genuine way.

>>73227212
https://files.catbox.moe/h1rlbj.jpg
GOD I fucking hope so. Please, if only for Ricegnat's sake.

>>73227326
https://files.catbox.moe/y399va.jpg

>>73218246
>i would suck on her toes
h...hot...
Pomu is so based

>>73227470
>https://files.catbox.moe/y399va.jpg
>this pic was drawn because of a fanfic
Never forget that even if you can't draw, you can help create awesome art by supporting people who are able to.

>>73218246
I-i-is this the acclaimed Pomu?
Is pee pee poo poo the extent of her capabilities as an entertainer????
This was niji en's golden girl? Is everyone else really that bad? I'm appalled this is who I was tricked into siding with against the evil black company.

>>73227749
Pomu? That looks like Selen to me

>>73218246
>>73227580
>i like piss
god she's even more based than i thought
i want more Pomu x Selen fetish talk

>>73227910
same artist.

>>73228091
Cute!
They might not drawn more Pomulen, but if thief and maid get together at least once I'm sure he'll come back.

>>73228231
I... wouldn't call it cute. Zoom in closer.

>>73228366
it's referencing the blood pact

>>73225124
>she was gonna come back either way
She literally wasn't. Do you even watch streams?

>>73228512
and it has a new meaning after feb 5.

>>73218246
I asked for this timeslot in the mint thread and got told to fuck off, yet I can easily find it in a bait thread.
Guess that means bait works better than being nice

>>73225124
watch the streams, especially her return one. She's seriously confused. There was a very, very real chance that she fucked off completely. Maybe not forever, but she definitely wasn't coming back any time soon.
She seems to be feeling better now, but even then she's basically giving it 10 weeks (because of matara's podcast) before she decides whether to stay or go again. Niji REALLY broke her.

>>73228643
sadly. It's missing some extra context to boost its credibility too.

>>73228366
The blood doesn't imply them fighting or breaking apart. It implies them getting "murdered" by niji. The blooming flowers are a symbol of hope and rebirth, a common trope in fiction. If he would have wanted to portray some kind of rift there are much better ways to visualize that. But that's just my opinion.

>>73227185
Stop using buzzwords you don't understand, junior. You're not fooling anyone.

Since you keep asking, yes.

>>73228610
Such as?

>>73228782
I thought the blooming flower was referring to Doki (yellow)

Never trust what a Nijisister might say

>>73228782
yeah, he drew it directly after the selen termination, so I'm pretty sure that was the point of it.

>>73224274
>does Matara have Mint on a leash

>>73224274
For the near future, kinda sorta. Matara is unironically the reason why Mint is even here right now, but she has only been doing solo streams so far for the first week (outside of the podcast).

Selen went menhera because Pomu kept doing duets with Elira. She realized Pomu only had eyes for the solar dragon.

>>73227185
>schizo anon talk shit about /vt/ on /vt/

>>73224274
yeah shes networking and creating bridge for elira clique with vshojo,thats why they excluded doki

>>73229207
I'd rather she make a bridge with a spitroast between them

>>73225047
>what proof?
kek

>>73226533
Them liking/retweeting Doki x Mint art would be a good sign.

>>73218246
hope no one deletes her minecraft world this time.

>>73213023
Pomu probably does but she will keep the act up for the good will of Fagoons and Fagdome.
When Doki reacts to Pomu's or Mint's name or references Pomu when chat brings it up, then we will know if they are really still on good terms post-Niji.

>>73232109
Doki showed a Pomudachi wood carving on stream during her charity stream. She wouldn't have done that if she held any ill feelings towards Pomu.

Probably nothing will happen for a while because they're both fucking busy like no tomorrow even if things were fine

I've revisited the Pomu's graduation sticky in the archives, and the general sentiment back then was very different. The biggest catalyst and the last straw that made her say "fuck this shit, i'm out" was thought to be the management's mistreatment of Selen, added to the bullshit Pomu herself endured.
What the hell changed since then? Fucking NDF peddling bullshit and confusing everyone in their defence of management. The clique is entirely irrelevant. The management was always the crux of the problem. And Mint is NOT loyal to the Niji brand, no fucking WAY she's gonna go bat for them. Otherwise she wouldn't have fucking QUIT.

>>73232632
The biggest revelation people didn't know and member Pomudachis kept quiet about was only made public after her graduation due to the fact Pomu unprivated her membership streams. The whole thing about the missed lifetime opportunity Nijisanji denied her was the key missing thing that made a lot of things make sense in retrospect and that VOD was the only one Nijisanji reprivated.

>>73213023
>dookie is already a sub 2k shitter so fagoons are trying to leech from Mint's success
KEKKAROO

>>73218246
>timestamp to avoid the fact she talked fondly about Elira right before the Selen part

At this point who really gives a fuck?? Pomu and Doki aren't even in the same country let alone job site anymore, soooo.. who gives a fuck??

>>73213023
Mint has her real friends now like Maia, Matara, Kuro.. She doesn't needs dookie anymore to pad out collabs.

>>73233289
I meant doesn't Mint know Nova longer than Pomu knows Selen?

>>73218246
she was part of the bully clique.. dookiebird cant catch a break

>>73234315
And yet, she forgot about having played Minecraft with Nova, while also making reference to her having played Minecraft with Selen

>>73234502
I mean that's just memory; you're more likely to remember recent events.

>>73234502
>she forgot about having played Minecraft with Nova
She didn't though. She was supposed to, but the stream just ended up having so many technical difficulties that they ended up playing something else.

>>73234829
They did play tho, the collab is still up on Lyrica's channel. The three of them played a horror map together.

>>73218246
Hell yeah, if Mint is willing to dish out epic burns like this, this definitely means they're on good terms. And if you don't see this as banter, you're either autistic, NDF in denial, or both.

>>73233316
What kind of fake ass argument is that? There are plenty of vtubers who live half a world apart and work in different corpos, and people still love to see them interact.

>>73232632
I don't think selen's mismanagement might have influenced her graduation. She turned in her papers mid last year, after all. The termination is likely the whole "something traumatized me" thing going on. Selen is very quiet and tends to internalize blame already, so if Pomu wasn't in the chats directly, she might not have known anything was up.

>>73213023
Literal "so who's Kim Kardashian dating now" level shit. Who fucking cares

>>73213023
Doubt it, this place just likes drama

>>73225124
And yet Matara left Niji and went to Vshojo despite having easier with her friends pulling the rein.

>>73228947
Is that a yes or does imply Mint's there willingly?

>>73228920
They had gay sex while on their period.

>>73232632
The clique absolutely matters because they were named in Doki's legal complaint. While is why Pomu continuing to be buddies with them is so baffling. She had a great opportunity to start fresh and wash the stink of Niji and its mean girls cliques off - and didn't need to collab with Doki or anyone else, and could have gone anywhere, really.

So why is she acting like a doormat and crawling back to them?

>>73242397
>named in Doki's legal complaint.
They could have been named in any capacity and for all we know management instructed Elira to ile in the blacked stream.
>She had a great opportunity to start fresh
It took SO MANY PEOPLE to tard wrangle Mint into not going fucking retail - her idol oshi, Kiara, Fuwamoco, Matara and likely many others behind the scenes. She was genuinely considering quitting vtubing forever
>like a doormat and crawling back to them
From what we've seen so far, If anything, she's once again trying to bridge both sides together, as she did while in Niji.

>>73218246
Is "shitting themselves" some kind of a call back joke during their niji days? Or was this an actual jab?

>>73242888
>>73219240

>>73242397
She wouldn't even be here right now if Matara didn't drag her back.

>>73235766
Better then your " argument " at least mine makes sense

>>73242888
It's a joke

>>73213023

>>73245344
Probably cope but it would be fucking kino if a collab happened

>>73245344
>>73245522
Mint is recording things for the podcast on Wednesdays.

>>73232221
Any idea about what time that was?

>>73245676
https://youtu.be/1n1K4wF6FKw?t=4546
Important thing to note from that:
>"They sent in multiple stuff of what they've done in the past"
>Doki herself chooses to display the Pomudachi one

>>73243713
NTA
No. It doesn't at all.

>>73242397
>they were named in Doki's legal complaint
Which means nothing since none of us knows a single bit of context of it

>>73213023
Nah, they just feel really awkward each other because in their last date one of them farted really fucking hard and they aren't able to look each other before without remembering that embarrassing night, who was the one that farted? use your brain and the answer will come to you really easily

If anyone has ever doubted that this board is infested with k-pop tier gossiping women, this thread is a prove

>>73246410
This is the truest post in this entire thread.

Personal rrat is that Mint is just stuck in a weird in-between situation where she's still friends with the clique, but never agreed on the Selen bullying, but by being a silent accomplice to the bullying, she doesn't want to interact directly with Doki since it would be awkward and at worse resurface some trauma. Ultimately it's on Doki if she wants to talk to Mint or just do her own thing, so I don't feel there's any malice on Mints end

>>73213023
dookie will fastforward a collab with Mint once she hits 3view status, which judging by how badly her recent streams are doing (including unarchived karaoke) is gonna happen this month.

>>73213023
Pomu was literally the only person to acknowledge Selen's existence after the 12/25 incident. Even up until her graduation she still spoke fondly of Selen. The blood pact won't get erased that easily.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0ms98PJI34

>>73217402
says she's back but provides no proof, FAKE NEWS

>>73249249
if you dont know shes back by now then you never were intrested outside of drama and has never watched her ever. im not gonna spoonfeed you who she is now just so you can look up clips of her for your bait shitposting

>>73246237
NTA
clearly it does but you're too much of a retard to understand it

>>73249344
Are you a fucking retard?? It's not spoonfeeding to help someone who was a past fan help them find the new her, you're legit a piece of shit for keeping the info to yourself, imagine being so insecure you think legit everyone is a rrat and a dramatuber just looking for info for a video

>>73246593
I screenshotted this to remind you now much of moron you will look like in May.

>>73242888
This is an actual jab. Mint said "that sounds like someone who would shit themselves. I don't want that kind of image". Faggons are now pretending that it's a joke everyone knows about and was a famous gag she definitely remembers from years ago. So why does she say nice things about Elira before this clip and only says Selen shit herself and she doesn't want her image? Are ESLs really not understanding shitting yourself means?

>>73246410
Duh doy

>>73249551
>Faggons are now pretending that it's a joke everyone knows about and was a famous gag she definitely remembers from years ago.
Oh, and her personal hygiene is ABOVE reproach.

>>73249551
Lmao

>>73213023
Mint joked about the body switch "Selen shit-my-pants Tatsuki" stream when someone suggested she use the name MintFPSvtuberFBttvyt
She hasn't unpersoned Doki by any means and only just now got back into vtubing. They'll have a collab eventually

>>73249719
>"Selen shit herself, I don't want that kind of image "
>Actually she's saying she loves Selen and wants that kind of image!
Shitting yourself doesn't always mean actually shitting yourself, ESL. It also means to fuck up then proceed to embarrass yourself. You've probably never heard of "shitting the bed" before and assume it's a potty joke

>>73249551
The sad part is there's a lot of autistic people on this board that don't have the mental tools to tell when someone is joking and will actually believe you.

>>73213023

>>73249249
>>73249483
The name of her reincarnation and A FUCKING CLIP were literally posted ITT, you fucking blind mongoloids

You guys need to get off the copium.. It's obvious to anyone that Doki and Mint were never really friends I mean come on, Mint's the type to rig a contest so her friend wins and Doki's the type to sleep with multi guys at the same time and date multi guys aswell and it was proven on the Discord by leakers she was dating AC1D and Noct at the same time They will never be friends because snakes don't befriend each other

>>73249551
>least retarded Nijitranny

>>73249483
you are not a past fan you are a dramafaggot and a moron

>>73250274
Nice headcanon Nijikek.

>>73250344
That would be you not me and you're also a fucking retard and a piece of shit

>>73250274
>niji
>cuck fantasies
Pottery

>>73250486
>replys projecting their cuck fantasy ( which is strange )
>vtubers in general
Truth

>>73249551
>So why does she say nice things about Elira before this clip
She didn't. Mint was trying to remember if she played Minecraft before (as Mint), and she read out a message from chat that said "didn't you play with ryusei nova?", and she responded "oh yeah, I did, I guess I did have an account, that must have been what those Minecraft account migration emails were about". That's not "saying nice things about Elira", it's just a neutral statement.

>>73250274
Man, doxxsisters have been siting on this alleged bombshell for a while now. It would sure be a shame if it had any supporting evidence up until this point.

>>73250775
As the people in the past have said and I shall repeat it, I'm not gonna spoonfeed you for your dramatuber video bullshit, go find your leaks somewhere else

>>73250873
>no evidence

>>73250775
As you can see, no evidence lmao

>>73250630
>Disingenuous NDF posts BTFO by just watching a few seconds of context.
How long do you think sisters struggle with mental gymnastics when their favorite organ leaves the company and they have to denounce them in favor of Anycolor? Absolute drone behavior turning on dissidents they previously praised like picrel.

>>73250899
>shit bait
>shit rrat

>Doesn't remember playing Minecraft with Nova
>Does remember playing Minecraft with Selen
POMULEN WINS, NDF SISTERS SEETHING

>>73249949
Holy mental gymnastics, it's a callback you straw-grasping schizo. I know what figures of speech are, do you know what Occam's Razor is?

>>73250949
>As you can see, no brain lmao

>>73250386
no need to be so angry being caught and called out dramasister

>>73251156
So you're saying I'm right? Doki and Mint were never friends and never will be? Good, now get over it

>Sister struggles to parse English sarcasm, irony, or general banter
>Takes the worst possible interpretation and posts it as deflection bait
Many such cases.

>>73251238
Prepare to get grudgeposted to oblivion.

>>73251057
>Occam's razor is when my delusions should just be presumed to be correct
Saying someone shit themselves and that you don't want their image is a bad thing. That is Occam's Razor. It's not " uhm actually she's joking about something that happened two years ago"

>>73213023
Matara and Mint just dont want to associate with the drama whore, it really is just that simple.

>>73242397
What does your post have to do in relation to the post you're responding to? She had a problem with management, if it wasn't for management she would still be in Nijisanji because a lot of her friends are still there. She didn't want to leave, but she didn't want to deal with management anymore.

>>73251646
>>73219240

>>73251564
Not scared of these pussies, I mean these are the same guys who think they have a chance to date Doki and think she actually cares about them and not just their money.

Not the brightest bunch

>>73251796
>said the guy who think he has a chance to get paid by Niji by defending it 24/7 on 4chan
rumao

>>73251238
they were never friends because no one behind the scenes likes Doki and her constant drama

>>73251796
>Doki of all people
>Having unicorns
I'm sorry, HWHAT? What the absolute fuck are you talking about?

>>73251796
>sisters STILL pretending Dragoons are unicorns
*sigh*

>>73251895
She has goslings but yeah, no unicorns

>>73251852
Doki wont pay you or fuck you bro

>>73251915
>pretending

>>73251238
must be so hard being retarded like you anon

>>73251915
>>73251895
here come the angry unicorns to defend Dokis honor

>>73251938
And Niji will never let you in since you are busy vtweeting on 4chin instead of streaming lmao

>>73251938
and vox will never fuck you either sister

>>73251945
>replying to this and not seeing the subtext
You aren't one of us, go back to the doxxsite.

>>73252033
>doxxsite

>>73251984

>>73251751
>Guys! She's referencing something that happened years ago! It isn't an insult because she said it before as a joke!

Cope more. Your friend calling you a faggot while you're fucking around isn't the same as your friend calling you a faggot after he starts ignoring you exist and finds out you suck cock

>>73251895
Who said anything about unicorns? She has a lot of gachis.

>>73251988
>>73252002
You guys are so desperate to white knight her its just sad. Theres a reason no ex Niji members like her, both her and Niji are trash

>>73252138
Irony coming from the one white knighting a fucking black company

>>73252186
I like how calling Doki trash means im defending Niji, the mental gymnastics white knights go through is crazy

>>73252138
Ah, so you are a holofag tribalist. What the fuck are you even doing here, you have no horse in this race, fuck off

>>73252218
>Nijitranny still trying
Lmao, your EN branch will die in less than a year

>>73252138
not being liked by the absolute human trash heap that is niji en who is by far the most hated en vtubers right now is good

>>73252220
>Holo out of nowhere
Holy rent free

>>73252112
>after he starts ignoring you exist
There's literally a timestamp in this thread of Doki showing off a Pomudachi sculpture on stream. If she harbored any ill feelings towards Pomu, she would have shown off a different sculpture instead.

>>73251036
>Directly talks about Nova and now they played Minecraft before
>Indirectly talks about Selen. Says she has an undesirable reputation and that she shit herself
POMULIRA WINS. DOKIFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>73252242
Notice how I said "ex" Niji members. Its ok you can try again buddy.

>>73252186
>>73252220
NDF aren't sending their best.

>>73252261
You're the one who said "both her and Niji is trash", pattern is clear as day

>>73252239
Doki and Niji EN will be irrelevant in less than year I agree

>>73252280
The reason why Selen went menhera was because Pomu only had eyes for Elira the whole time and she couldn't cope anymore.

>>73252391
>sister still trying to fit in
KEKAROO

>>73252345
So true sister all vtuber fans are either Holo, Doki, or Niji and nothing exists outside of that. Your a genius

>>73252412
>still doing mental gymnastics
Wow I didnt know Doki fans were this easy to mindbreak, my bad

>>73252266
>Doki is unaware her old friend thinks she's a faggot
Tragic. Considering how upset she sounded when she found out her old friends, Vox and Ike, read that she accused them of harassment behind their backs, she probably never wanted to lose any friends. Not how life works

>>73252391
So sad that Nijikeks like you whiteknight a shitty company, I hope you enjoy the new 3view wave before dropping them after a week.

>>73252503
>>73252491

>>73252491
>said the sister seething about Doki every day
I understand though, you REALLY need those gift cards from Niji so you can eat for a week
The grinding never stops for the Nijikek

>>73252492
Nope, by your logic it falls under "Your friend calling you a faggot while you're fucking around", because neither of them are ignoring that the other exists.

>73252218
>73252391
Do you physically wince each time you add Nijisanji when falseflagging? Chest pains maybe? I hope so.

>>73252315
not applicable tho since she just got referenced by an “ex” niji
you try again sister

>>73252437
>actually admitting to being a phasecuck

>>73252580
You guys are so mindbroken you just keep repeating this same thing, keep trying though the mental gymnastics might work next time!

>>73252659
nope not that one either keep trying sister

>>73252659
if only they exerted this much effort watching streams their new gen wouldnt be dead 2-3 views

She will never date you guys, get over it

>>73252672
>the irony coming from this post
Do Nijinigs REALLY?

>>73252650
1 ex niji referenced her in passing after all this time and no collabs or direct mentions.... that all it takes to convince you? Wow you are delusional

>>73252672
yet all you can say is “mindbroken” projecting your mental state perhaps?

>>73252765
yet you are seething so much you had to call your nycfo sisters to raid le 4chin in a desparate attempt to damage control

>>73252741
>NOOO YOU CANT NOT LIKE DOKI AND NIJI NOOOO
do Dokicucks really?

>>73251036
>>73252280
>>73252403
Let me repost something VERY interesting i've seen not that long ago... Verification not required

Elira in a fit of burning lesbo passion forced herself on Selen. Selen tried to fight back but Elira had lesbo-strength and was successful and made her cum until she was mindbroken. Since then Elria would use Selen to vent her unbreaking lesbo lust and love. Eventually, Selen developed Stockholm syndrome and gradually fell in "love" with Elira. All was good until Pomu started to get more involved with Selen. Selen found real love with Pomu. Elira enraged made Selens and Pomu's life at NijiEN a living hell. Pomu being a cuck with no backbone broke up with Selen and graduated leaving Selen to fend for herself. This made Selen break and pushed her into attempting twice. Everything after this was done to cover up this truth.

>>73252765
Because, as you are such a perfect example of, dramafaggots are still rabid at the mouth. They're both waiting for things to cool down.

>>73251127
>no evidence

>>73252835
>Nijinig seething after being called out
Lmao

>>73252784
I said mindbroken a grand total of 2 times wow. Yep you got me great own

>>73252933
now its 3 KEK
git rekt scrub

>She's not gonna date you
>Take your meds
>She's not gonna date you
>Take your meds

>>73252837
>No one can hate my oshi it must be a discord raid!!!
I genuinely had no idea dokifags were this delusional, learn something new everyday I guess

>>73252868
This fanfiction doesn't account for Pomu pushing oceanlaw so hard.

>>73252886
The only dramafaggot is Doki constantly being involved in drama. One of the many reasons no EX Niji will associate with her.

>>73253098
Pomu was playing hard-to-get. It just makes the sex so much hotter.

>>73253093
You should see them on the Discord, it's even worse they're all delusional fagstards that seriously believe they are personal friends with Doki IRL, its sad

>>73252903
Its ok I accept your concession since you cant even respond properly anymore

>>73253167
>dramatroon projecting

>>73252765
>U-san suddenly ceases to exist

>>73253225
>why you dont respond my headcanon
Based unaware Nijikek

>>73253093
sister how many times have you used delusional and mindbroken as a weak comeback now. you need to dig deeper for a better response you can do it sis! do it for vox !!!

>>73253242
of course the tranny is the only who would do a collab with Doki

>>73252590
>Mint has not mentioned Selen in months
>Mint is friendly with people deliberately ignoring Selen exists
>Doki is the only one directly acknowledging the other
>Mint doesn't directly acknowledge Selen. Then she calls her a faggot

How does that fall under "they're still friends just fucking around"?

>>73253309
Aaaaaaaand you've just moved goalposts. Of course you did.

>>73252886
Sisters didn't watch because it's easier to spin stuff when you're ignorant, but in Doki's vtubing advice stream, she mentioned how spamming collabs prevents you from building an identity and bonding with your chat. If anything, she's probably advised Mint to hold off while still chatting behind the scenes.

For the inverse of this, you only need to take a look at Quinn going ham on collabs out the gate, but seriously falling off solo.

>>73253371
I mean to be fair everyone you guys like are legit trannies - Mint, U-san, it's kinda funny

>>73253354
>Doki is the only one directly acknowledging the other
Literally never happened? Showing off a pomudachi on stream =/= "directly acknowledging" her.

>>73253453
>Mint

>>73253453
Why do you assume i give two flying fucks?

>>73253304
The only one who needs to use comebacks is you im just stating facts. Its ok I accept your concession

>>73253453
>nijisister that legit wants to suck uki’s cock and worships MUHlord vox le retard akuma unironically calling people tranny lovers
kek

>>73253434
>she's probably advised Mint
Delusional. Mint is a much better vtuber then dookie will ever be.

>Nijikek
>cuck posting
Pottery

>>73253549
Legit never even said I like Uki cause I don't and I don't like pedos either so Vox is out sooooo yepp.. Nice projecting " Sister "

>>73253528
yet you havent won a single arguement at all. lmao running away?!? running out of buzzwords to use?

>>73253242
Her graduation was basically a mutually agreed termination after her PL band stuff was causing legal issues, her not streaming for months and her having tranny breakdowns on streams over not being a real man. She counts as a graduated Niji though but no one people actually remember collabed with Doki

>>73253354
Mint literally just redebut last week.
And they both referenced each other. Doki with showing a Pomudachi on stream, and Mint with referencing her Freaky Friday Minecraft collab with Selen.
If either of them held any ill will towards each other, they would have not referenced each other. Doki would have shown off something besides the Pomudachi sculpture, Mint would have ignore the chat message.

>>73253603
i like how much projecting you’re doing that you now start to call people your own lol

>>73253458
Again, if she held any ill will towards Pomu, she would have shown off something else besides the Pomudachi.

>>73253695
are you trying to project my projection on your projection? It doesn't work that way, you're a nijisister, a pedo and whatever Uki is into I'm sure you also like it aswell, GSH, take your meds and just remember that Doki or Mint will never date you

>>73253653
Vox is Selen's sugar daddy and the whole recording/document shit was just a result of a bad breakup. They're one of the members dating each other Raziel talked about. They made up off camera but don't want to stir up more drama so all the make up and hate sex will never reach the public

>>73253826
>Nijicuck fantasies

>>73253802
> NIJiSEETHE so hard she starts to regurgitate every buzzword in the book
you love to see it

>>73253902
>Nijicuck fantasies
>Is clearly into seeing their partner into being fucked in front of them

>>73253802
>larping
kinda funny ngl

>>73253660
Mint's other account was active for months and she was deliberately avoiding talking about Selen. Doki showed a pomudachi. Mint said she didn't want Selen's reputation and she shit herself. The freaky Friday shit is just coping. She could say "Fuck Selen, I hate that lying bitch" and you faggots would go "That's actually a reference to a Minecraft stream 3 years ago! She's joking! "

>>73253802
You are not fooling anyone, Nijikek
You lost the last PR you had and your EN branch is gonna die

>>73253947
>keep describing his fantasies
Do Nijifags really?

>>73253964
Holy fan fiction, Batman!

>>73253624
>Dokicuck still seething
Honestly its just getting sad at this point

>>73253724
I mean, you're right, but i was arguing with a retard who claimed that Doki was on her knees begging forgiveness from Mint for whatever reason while Mint hates her and was ignoring her, when it has been proven untrue. And to be fair - Doki HASN'T namedropped Mint directly yet.

>>73253964
>Mint's other account was active for months and she was deliberately avoiding talking about Selen.
Because Mint's other account is not a vtuber account. The only people she talked about were people she was physically meeting IRL during those 2 months.
>She could say "Fuck Selen, I hate that lying bitch" and you faggots would go "That's actually a reference to a Minecraft stream 3 years ago! She's joking! "
No, not really. The fact you need to make something up shows how flimsy your argument is.

>>73253964
>Mint's other account
Is a PERSONAL account that no one should have been able to find, you fucking idiot. Did you ACTUALLY expect her to namedrop other vtubers when she was active on it?

>>73254091
still waiting for a good comeback sister lol how can you do this all day and get paid in giftcards but be so bad at this? seriously

>>73253947
The fuck are you on about again, we're not discussing Projekt Melody or VAllure girls in here

>>73254264
>no one should have been able to find

and yet all the Pomudachi losers who need to take their meds cause Pomu's never gonna date them, they still found it cause creepy stalkers

>>73254357
And? What does that have to do with her namedropping or not namedropping other vtubers when she was active on that account?

It's really baffling to me that sisters have run through so many failed arguments that they're trying to rile up dragoon unicorns - a completely fictitious group. Is it that they don't understand what that word means or are do they still, after two months of seething at Doki, not understand her or her fanbase?

>>73254210
>Because Mint's other account is not a vtuber account.
What kind of new-age post truth shit is that? She didn't even have to mention Vtubers. She could have just said "I found out my old friend was getting harassed by people I thought were friends" but she deliberately avoids saying anything or associating with Doki. Now faggots are trying to say it's a callback to a stream she definitely remembers from years ago

>>73227749
Yeah, people try to act like she's the jesus of vtubing or something, but all she always did was talking about Kojimaslop, piss and being a lesbian.

>>73254425
reminder that those cuck edits were made when she was Selen, they did it to rile up the few Dragoons still posting on that shithole called /NijiEN/
Just another proof that they never liked Doki even when she was on Nijisanji, Lazusydia era was peak /NijiEN/ and then it got ruined with Luxiem debut (although Ethyria was also a mistake)

>>73254441
>he never learned to read between the lines

>>73254481
And yet that's still better than the diaper furfag that only plays shartpex and badly at that, considering she needs to be carried by actual pro players

>>73254481
>lesbian
yet has had a boyfriend in the past

>>73254555
>only play Apex
Based retard

>>73254520
>using other fanbases ousting Selen's fanbase from /nijien/ as proof that other livers hate Selen
LOL
LMAO
EVEN
KEK
DARE
I
SAY

>>73254679
>other livers hate Selen
This Nijitranny has 0 reading comprehension

>>73254553
>Directly talks to Ex-Nijis except Doki
>Never mentioned anything about her drama even on her PL account
>Makes a passing reference to her having a shit reputation and that she shit herself

And it's someone being autistic to say that's not proof they're still friends?

>>73254679
>smartest Nijinog
Impressive...

>>73254441
Amazing job proving you never followed her account

>>73254796
>>Directly talks to Ex-Nijis except Doki
Only the one she physically met IRL during that time. Not plural.
>>Never mentioned anything about her drama even on her PL account
She literally did, if you followed the account you would have seen the MULTIPLE things she said about the situation.
>>Makes a passing reference to her having a shit reputation and that she shit herself
You're very autistic if you don't recognize the banter they've had with each other for the 2.5 years they were in Niji together. Unless, of course, you're just a dramafaggot who never watched Niji to begin with.

>>73254796
>Directly talks to Ex-Nijis except Doki
Only behind the scenes, moron. There was no indication that Matara was planning to boost her reincarnation until she actually reincarnated. NotMint NEVER directly namedropped any other vtuber.
>Never mentioned anything about her drama even on her PL account
Why would she? She was detoxing by groping idols and maids, she had her own bullshit she was dealing with. And once again - learn to read between the lines.
>Makes a passing reference to her having a shit reputation and that she shit herself
Newfag.

>>73254796
You're very much showing that you watch neither of them. Both the Mint and Doki threads were happy at this reference back when it happened on Saturday. If you actually cared about either of the two, you should have said something about it then, not two days later. Rope yourself dramafaggot.

>>73254441
>does she know

Is this thread what happens when an entire board is filled with autists?

>>73255003
>She literally did, if you followed the account you would have seen the MULTIPLE things she said about the situation
No she didn't. You schizophrenics putting words in her mouth isn't her talking about the drama. But supposedly what mint said is all a reference to a single joke she made in a stream years ago instead of it meaning exactly what she said? You're clip watchers who gets his information from dramatrannies, you don't watch streams

>>73257576
https://files.catbox.moe/44cfyl.m4a

>>73257576
Meanwhile, you are willingly choosing to ignore the words that she put on twitter, just because it doesn't fit your narrative.