/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

what reputation

>>73105326
>professional
>fan-loving
>deliberate in everything they do
>experienced

theyre fucking dead to me

fuck mococo

What the fuck are you faggots talking about?

>>73105607
i wish.

>>73105297
Moving to Japan basically overnight while not preparing anything was incredibly fucking stupid and anyone that claims.otherwise is a white knight simp.
I don't agree that this is damaging their reputation, holofans don't care. It is however destroying their youtube algorithm standing. They're probably bleeding money too because they have to stay in a hotel and can't stream to earn money. Keep in mind that this is their debut year, their income will decrease in the future when new gens debut.

>>73105607
>fuck mococo
you've got good taste brotha

>>73105297
I remember when some people shat on Bae and claimed she didn't know any better/is trying to sabotage them and that these two are much more experienced and professional when her advice was literally
>Take things one step at a time
Which could've applied to their move as well with planning

>>73105803
They'll make all their money back (and more) when they properly return. That's great for them but also ironically the problem that fuels this kind of care-free reckless behavior in the first place.

>>73106048
its almost like /vt/ is the dedicated anti zone that'll find any reason to shit on holos

>>73105297
bae needs to shut her whore mouth up. the molly she takes at raves have fucked with her head

>>73106211
But enough about Enna

>>73106211
phase cuck

>>73106211
Bae is unironically more professional than Fuwamoco. Look at how her move went. A retarded fucking tiktok Aussie zoomer managed to do what two experienced hags couldn't. She was also up-front with her fans about males, whereas Fuwamoco outright lied by making a cringe promise that sounded like it was written by a fucking furry.

>>73105456
lol I cant imagine being this brainwashed

Lots of nijimalding here

What's stopping them from staying at Mori's place? It's a two-floor apartment and a guest room.

>>73106321
>t. holocuck
grave

>>73105297
what are you shitposters malding about now?

>>73106190
No, we love Fauna here.

>>73106372
That hurt didn't it phasecuck?

>>73106364
I dont want mococo to be raped by a bunch of rappers

Iluna falling apart deflection thread

>>73106410
brownfeet

>>73106211
bae is cover’s model employee

>>73105297
This doesn't have to do with that retard

>>73105456
None of this is damaged at all though.

incredible how we'll have completely forgotten about all of this half a year from now

>>73106339
Oi stupid bitch. Bae's move went smoothly because she might appear retarded and a zoomer but she's highly competent when it comes to real world affairs since she was raised by her parents off the internet learning valuable self-serving life skills. She's not merely any zoomer. Fuwamoco are actually retarded in comparison but their heart is in the right place. They just didn't plan out things very well and it's lead to a series of unfortunate circumstances. Once they get settled they will return to regular streaming as if nothing happened. It has nothing to do with breaking promises. They are just in a predicament right now which will be sorted out eventually.

>>73105297
>needing to slow down
you mean the same shit she also listened to that got her and the rest of her in the gutters?

>>73106636
no, it's because they aren't asian like bae so they're having a harder time getting into japan

>>73106615
Only if you're a brainwashed Ruffian. /baubau/ aren't entirely pleased with how things have been lately and they're dedicated schizos. They fucked up, you have to admit it.

>>73106339
>The straight As student from a top school that also does prep school and extra curricular activities in her free time is more professional than two old aged white women with an unhealthy obsession to japanese culture.

>>73106679
>Keep the streaming frequency as is but take things like projects and decisions one step at a time instead of trying to do it all in one go
You know that advice is unironically amazing when applied to their current situation right?

>>73105297
>that's already starting to damage their reputation
enough about nijisanji sister,fuwamoco is from hololive

>>73106339
>Fuwamoco outright lied by making a cringe promise
What? Are you retarded? FuwaMoco were upfront about never interacting with or acknowledging the Stars, and they've never even come close to breaking that promis

>>73106755
/baubau/ is the single most raided general on this board, tranny. Try again.

>>73106339
>Fuwamoco outright lied
They didn't "lie" about a single thing.

im sure being homeless in japan is preferable to the current state of canada

>>73106802
I'm referring to their smile promise. It was an extremely pickme promise to make which they've broken many times, all of which have been JP/Japan-related. It also gave antis the perfect ammo for future fuckups like what's happening right now.

>>73105297
i thought they were going to protect our smiles. what the FUCK

>>73106846
Novelites would probably disagree with that, especiallly last month.

>>73106364
Remember when Kobo couldn't stay at Mori's for a week because she had "other arrangements".
You think Mori would choose fuwamoco over getting railed every few days?

>>73105297
or maybe she caused all this or maybe it was pink woman again
they needed to get rid of the based anti homo competition

>>73107015
I haven't gone in there. God, they really do hate Advent, don't they?

>>73106968
>>73106977
you guys are following a script aren't you? getting paid in gift cards?

>>73107015
From what I see over there they are good with their reporting reps and ignoring bait, how do they successfully get raided?

>>73107325
>and ignoring bait
a-anon? Novelites are known as the most retarded advent fanbase for a reason.

>>73107739
They are? I'd say anyone from NijiEN is way more retarded

>>73108063
Novelites gaslit their oshi into thinking she's fat because they're architects, then got sad she stopped doing handcam streams. Now nearly every stream she mentions something to do with her health/weight and is insecure as fuck about it. Even her fanart is getting chubbier now.

Maybe you retards should actually listen to what they themselves have to say

https://www.youtube.com/live/MGcTaPu9tu4?si=xvSG5P3sybWYPbBK&t=8603

>>73108254
Meanwhile in NijiEN they actually think Riku gives a fuck about them and they oshi the stocks over vtubers. Even wish death on them
They won the retard olympics several times over

>>73105297
b-but /vt/ said bae is a zoomer. zoomer can't be more competent than hag, r-right?

>>73108359
This is a zoomer's world now

>>73108063
>the most retarded ADVENT fanbase

>>73108291
hearing it now it sounds more like a death flag...

>>73105607
I get fuwawa then

dont let this distract you from Elira's black screen stream and that she bullied a coworker into suicide and didnt want to take responsibility for her actions.

>>73108431
>he's a Novelite

>>73108808
Not every Chinese woman is bad just because you're racist towards them.

>>73105297
Would you stay in Northern Passage if it's continuously invaded by subdemons that hates your kind?

>>73109019
Why couldn't they stay at a JP's whilst getting shit sorted? Towa, Choco or Matsuri would've helped them out.

>>73109069
probably it has something to do with bank accounts or other required paperwork

>>73105803
>>73105297
That seems like their own problem and has nothing to do with viewers etc.

So what is the problem exactly for fuwamoco as vtubers?

>>73109251
>So what is the problem exactly for fuwamoco as vtubers?
Not streaming? It's like Koyori suddenly moving to LA and not streaming for a month because she didn't plan things.

>>73109338
Didn't Vox not stream for 70 days now? And elira 50

>>73109433
good

>>73109338
Well, that shouldn't be a problem since there's plenty other vtubers/channel in youtube to watch.

NOOOOO I CAN'T BELIEVE BAU AND BAU BOTH HAVE TO TALK TO MEN IRL TO LIVE

AAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WE NEED TO ALL DONATE OUR LIFE SAVINGS TO NIJISANJI (specifically elira)

>>73109433
Uhhhhhh doesnt count hololive bad

>>73109514
Ruffians are like chumbuds. They ONLY watch Fuwamoco. Their smiles are therefore not being protected. Many of them consider any other EN in existence to be twitch whores, grifters, 'not the true spirit of Hololive' or 'not JP enough'.

>>73109701
I have learned the hard way that being a whore is better

>>73105297
No Nijinigger, Vox isn't coming back, Nijisanji reputation is still gone and Nijisanji stock still lost billions.

>>73109701
>Holo vs Holo
Nijidrones are pathetic. You can go hard with the falseflag but Luca won't uncuck you.

>>73105803
>Moving to Japan basically overnight
They've lived there before and have traveled back and forth god knows how many times and now they fuck it up? Now when it counts the most and they have money to speed everything up while having all that experience? Anyone buying this shit in the first place is a gullible brainlet

>>73109637
Lmao if you talk about irl they might already have husband and kids of their own. You shouldn't think about their irl at all

>>73110153
they are obviously just taking a break, no idea why they just can't be honest about it.

>>73106615
>deliberate in everything they do
I'm sorry but they will always be retarded to me because of this, I assume they must just be idiot savants
They shot 3 months of their first year as Holos in the leg, and they made the decision to jn almost no time at all, because their work visas existed now and so they just went
I know they're weebs
There are smart weebs
They are however both cute little retarded weebs who are losing an unfortunate amount of blood
Also yes I knew they were dumb already, when I say that I will never think of them as smart again, what I mean is that I'm not going to be joking at all whenever I say anything about their autonomy being restricted for their own good in the future. I mean that level.It's also a ridiculously lost list

Yawn, is there really no other yab people can find so they repeat ad nauseam the same thing over and over again. Can't wait for thread #121414 about them moving to Japan I guess...

>>73110153
>>73110255
oh no nijiggers, your narrative...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bQtlKKKDpU

>>73110153
I honestly think it's just an excuse for them to have a time window to sort OTHER things out. They know once they're back their fans will shower them with money. They must have so many connections over there to have helped them out and like you said, they know Japan is notorious for shit like this better than anyone. Either way it looks bad:
>actually fucked off without planning, not thinking for a second how it could affect their content
>knew Japan is infamous for being difficult for foreigners and using it as an excuse to prioritize other arrangements
If they just outright said they just want a month break to calm down and get settled in, no one would care. 2 days of /vt/ shitposting maybe but it would fade away for there will be new niji drama. This entire thing has been a clusterfuck.

>>73105297
>Bae
Kiara has been saying it since the start but because you're all retarded antis you called her evil and ruining Hololive.

>Ruffians stop being brainwashed
>Ruffians wake up
>Ruffians stop watching them
>RUFFIANS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE LISTEN TO ME
why do they make schizo seethe so much? I don't get it.

>>73110413
>/vt/ shitposting
You mean nijiniggers falseflagging? Sure, some shitposters for drama, but nijisisters are the ones who are most motivated and have the most to gain by blowing this out of proportion. They are utterly mind broken by niji yabs that they have to grab onto anything, real or imaginary. Nijisisters literally tell you their tactics on their doxsite.

>>73110457
i don't care what a big nosed coal burner whore or a junky australian chink slut have to say

>>73110560
That's how fandeads and chumbuds replied as well

>>73110351
AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE DONT ROOOOOOOOOOOK

>>73110927
Average ruffian reply lmao. Who needs nijis when you have ruffians

Hopefully they don't fall into the usual JET pitfall where they spend their youth obsessively worshipping glorious nippon as the flawless weeb holy land, then become disillusioned and resentful when they realize japan has problems too, there's more to the country than animu and it kind of sucks to live there as a foreigner

>>73110947
Nah nijinigger, that is how you reply. You can't holo vs holo out of this nijidrone.

>>73111018
true sister

>>73110927
>junky
Context?

>>73111451
doxx pictures of bae in raves leaked where she looks strung out and literally has a womb tattoo

>>73111115
They already spent a year living there for their "guard dog training"

>>73111746
You mean "onii-chan" trained them for years?

>>73111851
what are you implying?

once again sisters reveal themselves after getting triggered REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>73111953
NTA but it's clear he's saying they got railed like whores.

>>73111578
Oh nyo, the fashionable, extroverted and outgoing girl who dances for a hobby went to the largest music festival in Australia with her friends a couple of years ago that one time. The horror! that must mean she's a slut!
You sisters really are bitter femcels, what a joke.

>>73111851
stop lying,sister.

>>73111578
Damn, that's almost as incriminating the dox showing Fwmc getting spitroasted amd creampied by blacks

>>73111991
>no proof
concession accepted

>>73112154
I personally don't care about proof or the lack of them, just telling you what they were implying.

A reminder that your homos will never matter and will never be relevant and will eventually graduate and fade away while the girls thrive flourish and are remembered

I really hope this is just a shitposter angle and there's no actual ruffians trying to attack a sweet girl like Bae for an out of context piece of advice she gave

>>73112734
>sweet girl like Bae
lol

>>73112734
>sweet girl
okay bud

>>73112795
>>73112896

>>73112734
It's sisters
It's always sisters
Look how fast they ran to dox

>>73112734
even without raids, their split still shits on bae

>>73108291
>>73108711
Fuck...
God dammit Mori. Why'd you rope them into mario party...
Please come back fuwamoco. I miss you.

>>73109251
It neuters them in the algorithm. Even being inactive for 2 weeks can ruin your growth, and they were by far the biggest rising rookies in holo.

>>73113116
Do they really?

>>73113079
I'm not a sister. I'm just a male who watches Holo JPs and ENs and some cute indies that is sick of Fuwamoco's shit. I hate nijis just as much asyou. Every time you try to deflate any criticism by using nijis/sisters/phasefags you end up looking like retards desperate for approval for who you watch because deep-down, you know they're just teletubby tits financially exploiting you who'd unironically jump to the JP branch immediately if given the chance. They have no loyalty to HoloEN or (You), and that's why I personally can't stand them and hate the fact they wasted two slots in Advent.

The real reason they rushed to move to Japan.
https://youtu.be/OX2waLU4Ftc

>>73113269
What can they do about it? Living in Japan once they are settled will give them so many more opportunities. It takes time to find a place for two adult women who like to get loud at what is 10am in Japan

>>73112734
Do you seriously think the actual ruffians of all people would be hateful and mean?
Those girls ooze positivity and don't even tolerate ruffians trying to separate themselves into "fluffians" or "fuzzians" because they don't like infighting.

>>73113269
Female dogs get spayed dummy, not neutered

>>73113371
fuwawa please stop self doxxing to promote your shit

>>73105803
Gonna be honest I'm pretty sure they've already earned enough money to live for multiple years without working

>>73113311
Schizo

>>73113382
It's also even worse because they're foreigners and in order to get a place in japan, you need a japanese phone account, a japanese bank account, etc. And japan HATES foreigners to the point of constantly refusing them access to homes and shit just on principle. And these girls are whiter than the paper that mogged enna.

>>73105607
the move was obviously fuwawa's idea mococo has literally no say on anything in her life

>>73113430
just report and ignore.
I forgot to sub to their patreon again.

>>73113311
>teletubbies
this is a real screencap from a real member's stream of theirs btw

>>73113471
It just takes time. The wheels of glorious nippon turn slowly. They're also probably looking for a higher class place than normal

>>73113116
>split

So who did these cute dogs mog by simply existing this time?

>>73113410
Yeah I do, because I know the source material for a fanbase being cutesy and cheerful is actually more likely to attract the most loathsome subhumans imaginable
Source: bronies, Steven universe fans, Hello Kitty girls

>>73113543
just ignore the morons. If they don't want to watch the twins and seethe at how much fun the ruffians are/were having instead of enjoying their own oshis, then that's on them.

>>73113278
They do but unityfags will deny this and blame the nijisisters (what a convenience) Holo vs Holo is okay if its a holo they don't like

>>73113543
This is a literal YouTube Kids vtuber who, with an unlimited budget, specifically picked THIS artist out of fucking everyone. Just because they posted lewd shit doesn't mean it's not baby teletubby content.

>>73113629
Themselves

>>73105803
That isn’t necessarily true. Fauna makes more money now than she did in her debut year.

Never followed the dogs, qrd on what happened to them?

>>73113311
>Holo vs Holo
>Holofan vs Holofan
>i am not a nijinigger
Sister is trying this hard.

>>73113712
>doesn't watch streams
k

>>73113311
>criticism
why the fuck would anyone care about criticism from someone that hates them already?

>>73113757
they moved to japan but can't find a place to stay and stream in long term. They're effectively homeless right now and can't stream reliably. It's been a month. They can't just go back either due to the whole visa thing and the fact that some people said their lease in the "Northwest Passage" expired.

>>73113382
>for two adult women who like to get loud at what is 10am in Japan
can't they just fuck each other in the evening like normal people?

>>73113890
Yes but if they do then they can't stream at their old hours.
Them being able to keep streaming at EN hours is non-negotiable for them.

>>73105297
>singlehandedly ruined Advent's weekly collabs
worst fucking hire for EN3, honestly.

>>73113712
anon... cookieswirlc isn't even come close to being as degenerate as fwmc

>>73113940
yea yea nijiseethe.

>>73113757
They moved to Japan but in the most retarded spur of the moment way possible with no plans for housing. They're unable to get a place to live that will tolerate the loudness that comes with being a vtuber (singing, late night/early morning zatsus, etc)
Most places also won't let you rent unless you can prove you have a steady job to pay rent consistently on time and Streamer isn't considered a stable enough job, especially for places that already are holding them to higher standards because they're foreigners.

>>73113975
YouTube Kids you fucking rufftard, how could she? If she joined a corpo and streamed for adults she'd 100% be a horny hag.

>>73113975
nijigger still pushing this narrative i see.

>>73113979
I would rather have 2 normal streamers than this mess that you can't even build a connection with

>>73114015
But weren't they planning this for a good while at least? They leaked their plan to go to Japan as far back as like November when fuwawa slipped that they'd be meeting Bae irl

>>73114074
your liver is graduating next month.

>>73114089
everyone was expecting its for Fes, nobody expected them to stay in japan

>>73114089
They were "planning" in the sense that they were squeeing like dumb weebs about how they were gonna live in animuland and eat pocky and be kawaii idorus. They were not filling out paperwork and researching housing arrangements.

>>73114151
seethe dogfucker, biboo shiori and nerissa has their charms, these fucks was a waste of 2 slots and its not like they are bringing in twice the audience

>>73114209
even Fauna mogs them and she's just a cute-sounding wet towel of an entertainer

>>73113975
>ruffians are ESL
LMAOOOOOOOOOOO

>>73114206
Damn I'm surprised they didn't discuss it with Bae at all then considering how long she was working on it

>>73114292
actually a VERY valid point kek

>>73114209
>now try holo vs holo
Falseflag harder nijisister, Luca won't uncuck you.

>>73114268
>esl

>>73113371
kek

>>73114292
>>73114314
They likely did and still are.

>>73114371
>mexicans
>japanese
>pajeetbongs
you're not proving your point, numbermonkey

Why doesn't Cover handle their housing arrangements? Are they a black company or something?

>>73114292
shameless considering what they did to Bae during that 5th fes promotion

>>73114557
Cover knows they didn't move to Japan for Hololive, so they're not helping them out.

>>73114557
They didn't force their employee to commit suicide like Nijisanji, so nah.

>>73114344
>everyone that doesn't like fuwamoco is a nijishitter
Still not watching
>Gura killer
lmao

>>73114528
>70%+ usd, with a bit of CAD and aus sprinkled in.
vs.
>16% usd.
NijiEN btw.

>>73105297
I stopped watching when they announced the move cause I have a brain and understood the implication. Should have just joined JP if their EN fans were just gonna be their launching pad.

I know they're really dedicated to the airhead doggy girl kayfabe but this is a bit much, isn't it?

>>73114828
yeah, they should just stick to the airhead girl kayfabe that they've been doing for years
no need for the doggy part

>>73114737
Wow you are still trying sister?
Anyone who push certain narratives are nijisisters, you nijidrones suck at falseflagging. No wonder Vox ran to China to escape you retards.

>>73114803
They're HoloJP rejects. Instead of getting the hint, they applied for EN and are now trying to force themselves into JP by leeching, instead. They basically want to be what Koyori is.

>>73114878
>Anyone who push certain narratives are nijisisters
boohoo this guy doesn't like my autistic dogs, must be a black company fan huhu
faggot

>>73114933
They will never be as good as that mayo guzzler.

>>73113311
loyalty this, exploited that
they stream, I enjoy and am happy, I watch more and give money occasionally when I feel like it

so like why do you hate them? do you feel like you have to be the defender of the masses, the savior of people's money from being spent on talents or companies you disapprove of?

>>73114987
>oh shit they called me out for holo vs holo, quick keep pretending!
try harder next time.

>>73114878
they are desperate,they think niji can bounce back,but nope

>>73110178
Really? I’m cancelling my membership

>>73115046
No? I'm just anonymously sharing my opinion of them and I'm fine with people like you challenging my views, it's only fair. You get value from their content and are happy to pay, I get that. I value the 'family', 'loyalty' and 'gen' aspect of Hololive and they've gone directly against that so I'm annoyed with them for wasting slots. I don't like people who join Hololive and treat it as a personal rm springboard like what >>73114803 said. I also despise Holo leeching members like Laplus for the exact same reason.

>>73115142
You can't even defend fuwamoco as a good streamer lmao, keep calling me a nijisister surely that will make them entertaining, btw advent collabs without them was so much better without mococo's and fuwawa's incoherent screeches and the other 3 doesn't have to play along with their hard keyfabe

>>73114987
Niji crashing and burning has got to be one of the worst possible things that could've happened for Holo discussion on /vt/. Every time you present criticism for anything, you get some shrill, overly defensive moron bringing up sisters and the same tired quips about Nijis that Holo viewers don't even fucking understand. They do it because it's the easiest way to deflect real grievances or at least derail the conversation so badly that nothing might as well have been said. It's driving me insane. Fuck every single one of these faggots because you just know Anycolor isn't going to turn things around, so it'll keep getting worse.

>>73115387
>still trying to get me to shit on the rest of advent and do holo vs holo
>i am not a nijisister, trust me bro
lmao, see you at the next nijisanji graduation.

>>73115387
>the other 3 doesn't have to play along with their hard keyfabe
This was the biggest thing for me. It felt so chilled. I don't mind fwmc sounds because they admittedly are cute to listen to but the kayfabe and constant duo theater act makes it so hard for the others. They won't budge so the others have to and you just end up with a noise fest with no conversation.

>>73115425
I could not give a less of a fuck what happens to kurosanji, its not like this retard that keeps on calling me a nijisister can say anything else to what ive said because even he knows its true. imagine if we got another Fauna Gura Mumei Biboo, instead we wasted 2 slots for a 2 dogs that plays the most boring shit possible, have an annoying keyfabe filter and now EN viewers have to share their streams to the fucking JPs

>>73115583
Advent minecraft arc never happened because the other members cannot stay for much longer hanging around with these 2 fucking dogs.

>>73115274
well I just disagree with your take then
to me they really refresh holoen, set a new standard, and elevated everyone in it, and it's not immediately visible
I don't give a shit about the side activities, I watch what is appealing to me, but I would also disagree on the take that they're using hololive as springboard. it's a shitty springboard if it is and they're not that dumb

>>73115583
3/5 is real

>>73115589
Kayfabe and HoloJP was the origin of Hololive, you fucking tourist.

itt: I want to watch twitch but I'm too cool for it and so vtubers must be twitch

>>73113631
Since when have bronies ever been hateful? And SU attracts hateful people because of wokeism, not because of cheerfulness.

>>73115723
even Pekora lessened her kayfabe and she's at the peak of her career atm. kayfabe can only bring you so far

>>73105297
mori teaches bae
bae teaches them
ah the shit teachers as always
why won't mori teach herself to fuck off and slow down? kek

>>73115862
kayfabe brought her to the peak and she's now coasting

I just checked their channel and kek, are “ruffians” actually having a meltdown about not having a stream in 13 days?

>>73105297
It really is kinda baffling that they didn't plan this out in full at all. The way they announced their move to Japan felt really out of the blue to me and caught me off guard. With how long they've been in the game you'd think they would've planned this out more thoroughly and with more care considering how ass backwards Japan is about letting foreigners move into Japan and with how strict they are with renting rules in Japan for foreigners. We're approaching almost 2 months since their last posted schedule and yet they're still having a lot of trouble trying to settle into Japan. Honestly I'm kinda disappointed in them because I was under the impression the move to Japan would be quick and seamless. They definitely jumped the gun way too fast and should've done this huge move to Japan after Advent's first anniversary because at least then that would've made this huge announcement a lot more special for the Ruffians and given them time to plan. You can see how Fuwamoco really didn't think this through enough in their latest member post with them describing how hard the move has been on them. "We're doing whatever we can, when we can" just like Gura lmao. Hopefully they can get it together soon because this is definitely gonna hurt their growth considering the most important time for a Holo member's growth is their first year

>>73115995
no, they are not really actually having a "meltdown"

>>73115910
>kayfabe brought her to the peak
please dogfucker
enjoy your hard kayfabe

>>73115681
>really refresh holoen
True, but now they've fucked off to Japan and even tweeted the JPs first about some cute thing when they arrived then remembered to translate to English AFTER. That's grim.
>set a new standard
It's this mentality that makes people hate Ruffians, you know that right?
>elevated everyone in it
Not really? The other Advent girls are all doing their own thing. I'll admit they really kicked the lazy Myth and Promise girls up the ass and that's based. Most of the branch seem unaffected by Fuwamoco by this point, only at the start was everyone a bit shocked with their explosive popularity.
>I don't give a shit about the side activities, I watch what is appealing to me
Fair.
>I would also disagree on the take that they're using hololive as springboard. it's a shitty springboard if it is and they're not that dumb
...

>>73114371
>USD is an order of magnitude higher than Yen
>A bunch of other EFL currencies that surpass Yen when combined
>For their first stream in Japan
Why are they so desperate to ditch HoloEN and pander to the Japanese?

>>73115862
There is nothing wrong with kayfabe. Each talent has their own brand. The dogs are obviously popular and have their own audience. You keep hating the dogs while they do their own thing, it's not even criticism, you just want to shit on them and say how the other holos are better, which in turn gets people to shit on the holos you mentioned and we go into civil war like nijisanji. In the past, whatever we compared holos, we just said Yagoo is best and went back to enjoying our own oshis. You might not be a sister, but you sure are acting like one.

>>73116246
this pretty much
family, loyalty, and gen
just empty words you throw

>>73116246
>You keep hating the dogs while they do their own thing
cry about it faggot

>>73115589
For the sake of getting something out of this mess of a thread, I'll disagree with your point. How good or engaging their content is doesn't really matter. Coming from their PLs, the two of them had one of the strongest "stories" of any applicants. Almost nobody watched them, obviously just from the cold hard reality of their PL numbers, but the greater Hololive community embraced them because that story was strong. They could be 100x as boring, cringe or annoying as you think they are and it wouldn't matter. A lot of the value of them being here is that they reinforced Cover's reputation as the "good" corpo, that saves 2-views and reinvigorates their dreams. The fact that they turned out to be active, motivated and successful Advent members (not counting this recent JP move shit that will probably kill their momentum permanently if they don't get it sorted out) is just an added bonus.

>>73106211
Hot. I didn't know bae was cool like that.

>>73116380
so it's all an ultimate chess move by yagoo
I kneel

>>73116314
>family, loyalty, and gen
This is retarded, they are co-workers. work friends at most, very few are actual friends.
>>73116321
but i am not a nijinigger like you.

>>73105297
>First year is your most important by far for building an audience
>Purposely sabotage it by taking several months straight off to live in le heckin Japan with no planning
Genuinely, what the fuck did they mean by this? Do they not have a manager to call them out for being a couple of retards?

>>73116610
They were just using EN as a means to an end

>>73116380
I guess the blame is on me for thinking two hags that has failed all their lives before hololive to be successful as entertainers will be entertaining when they got hired by hololive.

>>73116661
nah, you are just a cunt.

>all this ESL
This board is beyond saving.

>>73116800
Holoboard btw
This is what the Holoen fanbase is

>>73115569
You and your sisters will be there but we have other things to watch

>>73105456
>>deliberate in everything they do
that can be used as both in a positive and negative

>>73115906
Why won't you teach yourself English?

>>73106615
are you kidding? theyve shit away almost all of their goodwill at this point. there was nothing to anti them about before, they were perfect, now they're permanently used goods

>>73116247
It's almost like they aren't and had no intention of ever abandoning anyone.

>>73118073
>shit away their goodwill
>last stream had higher ccv and superchats in 25 minutes than the entirety of Nijisanji's global branch.
You're kidding, right?

>>73105297
>taking advise from homostars ENs used condom
Not taking advise from morons is always the correct decision

>>73119353
She was right this time tho

>>73105803
>who cares about reputsation? think of the NOOOOOOMBERS
chimp

>>73119441
Ruffians flip between #fags, JP supremacy or EN unity. Whichever one makes them look good depending on what's being debated.

Thread too long. Didn’t read. Idc what they do as long as they don’t take gura tier break lengths. Yah they probably should’ve planned their move better but it happens. That’s life. That being said if this ends up with them barely streaming after they’re adjusted then I will retract all forgiveness and will actively start to loath them. Idc about a chubas personal aspirations or dreams when they stop entertaining me, and I get the most entertainment from streams.

>>73106968
This guy tries to get a refund from McDonald's after ordering a smile on their app. This nigga tries to sue Red Bull when wings don't grow out of his back. This bitch throws a fit when buffets kick him out after six hours because he hasn't eaten all that he can eat.

>>73119945
They said they would ALWAYS protect my smile no matter what! I'm not smiling! Simple as!!

>>73107201
Can you even name the last two gens of Niji EN? It's TTT and Krisis. Literally the only thing people remember is the bandage joke.

>>73106912
Japan is going to be a shithole in their lifetime and it probably won't even take long. They are opening the doors to millions of Nigerians, Indians, and other subhumans. Only a matter of time and it won't take long. Canada was pretty decent even in 2010 all things considered at least compared to now. It only took 5 years to fully Jeet us.

>>73105803
Moving to Japan is only a good idea if you are a flesh streamer looking to do IRL streams in Japan, or a male vtuber trying to get in the same timezone as your fujo audience. For female vtubers with a Western audience, it's absolutely retarded. You can only maintain a Western-friendly schedule by literally being a NEET vampire who sleeps in the middle of the day and stays up all night. But nobody moving to Japan is going to do that, because they're moving there to experience Japan, and you can't do that if you're only awake at night when everything is closed.

>>73121878
You know Nijisis, if you watched streams Fuwamoco said they wouldn't change their stream times.

>>73121994
They did change. That is a fact. Sorry, but I'm right. Disagreeing with me makes you wrong, which makes you dumb, which makes you a woman, which means you are a sister. Do not reply to me again, I don't want to be exposed to your estrogen.

>>73122174
>fuwamoco streams at 6pm unless they're specifically accommodating somebody else in japan for the sake of their own schedules, which has happened twice.
>every solo single stream since the move has been in english(8 btw)
>sisters argue stream times somehow changed.

>>73122509
>streaming every day often twice a day to not streaming at all
>nothing changed
Sorry for calling you an adult woman. It slipped my mind that as a Fuwamoco white knight, you are more likely a literal child.

>>73121994
They're the ultimate pickmes, actually worse than Kiara. They'll say and do anything for approval. Difference with Kiara is she does shit then won't shut the fuck up about what she's done, whereas Fuwamoco don't shut the fuck up about things they are (going) to do. There's no point just saying shit without thinking if it's even possible or feasible to either achieve or maintain. It just makes them look desperate for attention and untrustoworthy.

>>73110457
She can't let the newbies look more professional and motivated than herself so she just has to act like the concerned senpai to save face. Girls do this all the fucking time

>>73122794
Cover should stop hiring sexually frustrated white hags

>>73122768
>why isn't the homeless streamer streaming several times each day

>>73123108
I accept your concession.

>>73123108
They could be doing Twitter Spaces from their phones a few days a week talking to Ruffians and keeping them up to date and it would shut down all this shit. Unironically why won't they?

Can it be that difficult to get a hotel with good wifi and an overpriced laptop that can stream? They shouldnt be hurting for money

>>73123352
Because they don't yet have a place that'll let them make too much noise? Why do you think the only karaoke they thought to do was soft lullabies?
>>73123356
That's likely what they just attempted to do yesterday. The connection was so bad that it kept breaking up and they gave up after less than half an hour. There's a makeup stream planned tonight (again at EN hours).

>>73123356
Ruffians bought the lie that they MUST, and I mean ABSOLUTELY MUST have a place where they can scream and shout before they can stream. So it's basically Hololive studio or nothing. You'd think with all the EOP money they recieved they'd at least do some chilled/relaxed zatsus or gentle cute streams, but no.

>>73123900
All you do is talk normally in Twitter spaces. Wtf is this gaslighting attempt?

>>73123356
Reminder you can stream from Cover's office

>beloved EN chuubas
>Pandering to JP
It's irys all over again

>>73124090
Ummm, Fwmc debunked this by saying their setup is too complicated for streaming from Cover's office.
Ignore the fact that other livers have done off-collabs there so obviously the setups are fine for multiple people.

>>73118403
lmao, that's your comparison? "wow this major league pitcher makes way more money than a local softball league nobody!" no fucking shit. They're not on the same level, never have been outside of a tiny like 6 month window. that means nothing

>>73122794
>actually worse than kiara
i almost completely agreed with this post

>>73122509
way to self own you stupid faggot. Since moving, 20% of their streams are already JP. That number will continue to grow. 20% have been SC reading. Ruffians eating scraps

>>73125310
IRyS was never that well received on the EN side. I can at least see why she’s gone so JP lately, but FWMC going JP was a bizarre move.

>>73116142
Advent sucks. Wheres the tactituber or asmr girl

>>73121878
wtf are you talking about? American (PST) prime time is around noon in Japan. They can get a good night's sleep, wake up around 9 am, stream from 12 to 5 pm, and then enjoy Japan the rest of the day.

>>73128580
>the rest of the day
>5pm
the nips are sleeping already

>>73110324
??? Is this machine translated? What the fuck are you trying to say?

>>73128580
Shit closes really early in Japan

>>73125385
>livers

>>73125385
>livers

They're entertainers, not your girlfriends.

>>73127334
It was pretty obvious considering how ultra-mega-super-weeaboo they are. Most of their favorite eroge don't even have fan-translations. If being weeaboo was an iceberg, they'd be at far below the bottom.

>>73134039
>>73134527
easiest yous possible

>>73114015
Can't Hololive help them with this? Surely the JP side of things have some connections?

>>73135795
can they? yes. will they? apparently not.

>>73105297
>some zoomie brat who was in diapers when these started out thinking she has the seniority to give them advice on burnout or anything at really
Will never not be funny.

>>73134713
I think (you) mean NOT (you)'re girlfriends, Anon-sama.

>>73136432
Only two of the three people you're talking about are currently homeless in a foreign country that heavily scrutinizes their only method of income for housing :^)

>>73136432
She’s right tho

They should come to brazil.

>>73136432
she won't be young forever, but this "moving to japan" arc will get old much faster

>speak fluent Japanese
>get hired by a Japanese company
(You)
>REEEEEE WHY ARE THEY USING THE SKILLS THEY WERE HIRED FOR
>WHY MOVE TO THE COUNTRY OF THE COMPANY THEY WERE HIRED TO
>FUCKING REEEEREERRRRRERREEREEEEE

>>73139987
pretty sure they were hired for hololive english

>>73139987
Who are you quoting? kys retard

>>73140157
Struck a nerve I see. Did you finally realize how dumb you sound?

Don't care
Gonna watch them regardless
Cry and shit yourself, or something

>>73105456
>Johnny-come-lately ruffian is a thread reader
Many such cases.

>>73140157
If you think its about you, it is

>Moving SC
>Moving SC
>"Thanks for all the headpats!"
>"Light at the end of the tunnel maybe!"
>Tangent of the same exact info for 2 minutes just rearranged in a different way
>Moving SC
>Headpats for tuff times
>Moving SC
>Repeat ad nauseam
It's all so tiresome. I need this shit to end so I don't hear the same shit over and over and over and over every time they show up from them AND the Ruffians.

>>73105297
so you saying that all the bait threads about fwmc is that after they stream everyday since their debut for atleast 6 months(thats atleast 180 days) that it turned your daily life into a new one that without fwmc they will literally die during their vacation?

jesus christ get some help

>>73116247
they would abandon you and all of their fans once they graduate

>>73116552
take your meds enna we know the dogs is doing much better than you are

>>73105297
yes

Tf Nijisanji do this time?

>>73148992
ILUNA might be graduating. All of them.

>>73136432
You're going to regret that

>>73107041
yeah, no, mori and I would not interrupt our disgusting, smelly sex for fuwamoco

>>73105297
Few troll posts on 4chan are not a 'damaged reputation'. Sorry, sweaty.

>>73105297
yup

you guys making it sound easy to find good soundproofing place with how loud they can get every stream good internet good rent
if they cant find a good place with all of these they will get doxxed the moment mococo sneezes

>>73121200
are you an idiot?

>>73161877
They've lived in Japan before though? How were they so unprepared? It's just baffling for two hag Japan-obsessed women that both lived and worked there previously to find themselves in this situation, especially considering they were at the peak of their career/growth when they decided to make the jump.

>>73163139
>>73161877
if fwmc don't live on the other side of japan why can't cover provide them with a streaming space? you'd think they'd have an emergency setup somewhere

>>73105297
BAU BAU

>>73163207
That’s the thing, Cover actually has a streaming space in their office but they won’t use it because “It doesn’t fit our streaming setup”.

>>73164426
>It doesn’t fit our streaming setup
I laughed when I heard that. So many off collabs are streamed from their office with everyone captured just fine, especially when the ENs visit and hang out with the JPs yet these two continue to come up with creative excuses to not stream. Ruffians are understanding, they'd take anything at this point. Even just a fucking background image with shitty iphone audio with them two just chatting shit.

>>73105297
Certified sister thread. Actual fucking sea monkey.

I'm here too so I'm far from a well-adjusted person, but this thread a yet another example why vtuber fans are the most mentally ill group of people on the internet. Moving to Japan makes you a traitor now? Fucking hell. As if 99.99% of us wouldn't immediately jump at the chance to do the same thing.

I view every stream they have done since moving as an extra stream. They have the moving to Japan stream thing set for the 14th, like it has been for a month. I fully expected 0 streams during their move and have been pleasantly surprised that was not the case.
If they don't start streaming regularly by the 14th, I can get complaining, I won't personally since I'm not a child and have moved several times and know it's a pain in the ass, let alone moving to fucking japan with little prep.
But the sisters need to shitpost so it is what it is I suppose.

/baubau/ has been getting raided hard lately, worse than the usual, and lately there have been more FWMC bait threads. are there just some sisters with hard ons for FWMC or something? the ruffians that cared about this have already been filtered and/or oshihened.

>>73165782
most of them are either brownoids from third world shitholes or trannies from anglosphere. its disgusting but this shit happens everywhere nowadays. like poor brown monkeys living in a ghetto/favela "concern" about first world things and doommonger or amerimutt trannies/woke cretins shit on japan in all japanese topics.

>>73166180
I don't think.any ruffians want to oshihen and are trying to hold on, there's a lot of nice but somewhat menhera Ruffians though and this is really hard for a lot of them
ruffians are just as needy but don't want to give up like fuwamoco, fanbase reflects streamer, etc etc

>>73105297

>>73105297
honestly i want them to have the worst experience in japan i want their dreams to be crushed like literally get assaulted and raped in japan or something they need to have some sort of repercussions for their actions some sort of punishment for betraying us for abandoning us then they will come back to us broken we will console them and build them back up and our relationship will be stronger than ever anmd hopefully they'll think twice about betraying us in the future