/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>73077951
You don't wanna talk about how Sega still using caveman technology even tho they are the first?

>>73077951
>with the recent 3D debacle over Miku's 3D expo
What happened?

>>73078651
> $8 vs. $80 concert Miku version

>>73077951
Niji has 3D tech?

>>73078205
>still
I went to Miku Expo in 2018 and it did not look like this. This is apparently some stupid thing thanks to Crunchyroll.
Look at this, it's like AR, she is the same size as a human and can dance between the live performers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD5xYng4P7Y
It's a semi transparent screen so you can see parts of the stage behind it too. It's not some tiny screen that makes them look shrunk like what just happened in Toronto

>>73079079
anon it's the same flat screen tech that Hololive use in 2020.

>>73078945
Yes. Sisters were even proud of it and said how it was way superior comparing to Cover's tech back in 2019-2020

Not seeing them appearing anymore after 3rd fes though lol

>>73079299
Still something to say thats impressive back in 2019-2020.

>>73079269
Take meds, I did not even bring up Hololive. I'm saying that Miku Expo didn't always look like shit so OP's usage of the word "still" is wrong. It looked better in 2018 long before ANY vtuber concert. Of course it's a flat screen, that's how holograms work. However this 2024 concert run has a screen that is way too small so the vocaloids look disproportionate to the band, it's not semitransparent, and Crunchyroll forced concert goers to buy a lightstick that was overpriced due to it "interfering" with the holograms, then didn't even use hologram technology. When I went, we all had regular lightsticks and some other people doing wota in the front had lightsticks from other events and it was perfectly fine, in fact it looked nice as the stage reflected everyone's lights.

>>73079510
i got to see the lightstick and it definitely doesn't look as nice as the ones Hololive has

it isn't that amazing, honestly.

>>73078651
Miku expo is on a little LED screen instead of a glass pseudo-hologram

>>73080021
It's a cheaply manufactured one made for the sole purpose of not 'interfering' with the hologram which they didn't even use. Crunchyroll are a bunch of Jews. Wait can I say that here since this board shills idolcorp

>>73079299
the only different thing in Nijisanji's 3D is the motion blur effect.

>>73079299
Anycolor's 3D was way more innovative during its time but they went full dollar-sign-eyes in the last few years and stopped giving a fuck to invest to improve it whatsoever so now holo's stuff looks way more polished

>>73079299
cuz it was. They even had chair physics in niji 3Ds.
The thing is they never reinvested after already jumping ahead. Tortoise and hare situation.

>>73079269
No it's not.

>>73079299
It's still superior. Hololive 3D has not changed at all in 4 years.

>>73086085
you can't be serious. You saw HoloFes right?
Who am I kidding, you didn't even watch Petra.
Touch streams.

>>73086307
Yeah what about holofes? Do you not understand that the livestream is not what it looks like at the venue?

>>73077951
Why>

>>73086085
They went from standing model with blank background (Fes 1), to decorative stage (Fes 2), to Korone flip (Fes 3) and now lasers, lightings, Bae's dance, Korone Aerial flip and 3 separate stages (Fes 5)

> Has not changed at all in 4 years
Sisters faking as Holos, challenge failed miserably

>>73087898
None of that has anything to do with 3D technology. They're still models on blank or flat backgrounds.

>>73087950
You could say the same for nijitech though

>>73091046
Yes niji does the exact same thing at live venues. What about it? It has nothing to do with "3D tech".
Hololive still doesn't know how to implement real time tracking of held objects in 3D without it looking like the people on the stream are grabbing air.

>>73077951
Ok I need to ask: when you go to Holofest or whatever aren't you look at a screen? I always assume it was 3d or 3d-ish on a stage but the people who go in person say it looks far different there then what I see online.

>>73079299
>Not seeing them appearing anymore after 3rd fes though lol
It's because it became evident that Cover 3d won't improve. They are still at 2018-2019 level.

>>73093468
It's ok. Once Nijisanji goes under cover can just buy theirs instead.

>>73087898
Everything you described is just the same shit - body tracking. It literally haven't changed. Now look at Cover's shitty body/clothes physics, shitty models, shitty interaction with the scene/objects/models, shitty face animations, etc. They are literally the same as in 2018

>>73093578
>Once Nijisanji goes under cover
2 more weeks?

>>73093689
from their stocks, it's probably more like six. gotta squeeze the branch dry before the big merge in Q1, after all.

>>73091451
If you are still wondering, they are basically seeing a scene with a flat screen and inside that flat screen there is a 3D scene.
And those people who watch online don't see that offline scene with a flat screen, it is replaced with 3D scene (the one which is inside a flat screen for offline people).
How it's done. It's done using AR by taking the Virtual part (3D scene) and "combining" it with Real world audience.

>>73093827
First, you are setting up a perfect grudgepost material right now.
Second, do you realize that neither holofags nor nijifags would be excited about this "big merge" you are talking about?

>>73077951
they get shit because their tech is garbage and people accepting 2d avatars as legitimate vtubers has set the entire industry back at least half a decade

>>73094112
what? I'm talking about NijiEN merging into NijiJP.
I just said Cover would buy Niji's 3D equipment when they liquidate and auction off everything as a joke. I doubt they'll actually need it.

>>73094198
>I'm talking about NijiEN merging into NijiJP
I am aware of that
>I just said Cover would buy Niji's 3D equipment when they liquidate and auction off everything as a joke
It's more likely that Cover will be the one who will be forced to sell theirs, judging by the stocks.

>>73094290
oh, sorry, I was under the impression you actually had a brain and was just misunderstanding.
Hope you enjoy your gutted AR live from last year. It's the only concert EN will ever have.

>>73094181
Were there a lot of 2d vtubers half a decade before 3d ones?

>>73094290
Don't judge by stocks. It means nothing. They could have 10 trillion in the bank and stock at a penny/share.

>>73094379
>holokek has no arguments
>proceeds to HOLOSEETHE
Like a perfect clockwork...

>>73094398
Well, all Cover's assets are listed in it's financial reports. And they are not impressive.
And judging by the holofag own words of them needing to go public only to afford their studio, clearly says that they don't have much.

>>73077951
The biggest issue with LED screens is that you have to blend the screen with the stage set up else it looks fucking jarring. Holofes stage design is good because all the lighting set-up is above and beside the screens so you don't see any backlighting on the LED screen. Without seeing the borders of the screen, your brain won't be distracted by the fact that it's a screen every few seconds.
Overseas hololive concerts also blend the LED screens well with the stage design, or at least the concerts at AFA were.
This miku expo shit is probably just crunchyroll hiring a event planner who has 0 understanding of how virtual concerts work.

I'll never forgive Crunchyroll for killing Princess Connect.

>>73095592
with crunchyroll being charge it makes sense why the concert was so bad

>>73077951
Doesn't Miku have hologram tech wtf is this shit lol

>>73077951

>>73079315
>I bet you I could throw a pigskin over those mountains over there

>>73094458
>Like a perfect clockwork...
You didn't need the a