/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>73027954
everywhere else was worse, and I say that as somebody who fucking hates this website and that I have to post here to discuss them

>>73027954
Everyone loves a good train wreck and vt is train wreck central

/r/hololive is owned by the company
/r/virtualyoutubers is owned by chinese nijifans
twitter is twitter
/vt/ just wins by default

Without the post cd, it’d easily be like 2nd. I fear the power of /vt/, for I simply wish my humble thread to stay afloat in this sea of torrid obscenities.

>lower than a honeypot bot board and two viral advertising spammed boards
This board needs to do better that's just fucking grim

r/virtualyoutubers is run by a guy named “chinese maple”
crystal cove is full of nijichinks
fb is full of nijisea
i dont want twitter my oshi can see my shitposting there
kiwifarms is all phasecucks
this is literally the best place to talk about vtubers as long as you stay in generals and avoid the catalog

>>73028121
There isn't a cooldown on other boards?!
I've literally only ever used vt and jp

We, The Great Forefathers, built gatekeeping right into the culture.

This prevented the Redditwitter sphere from getting a good hold on it and when vtubing blew up, it resulted in a pressure differential, forcing all the traffic into the one place where interesting chuuber discussion was occurring.

>>73027954
Stop posting manipulated vtuber images you disrespectful foreigner.

i was told not to post on twitter
https://streamable.com/rdfgvy

>>73028254
you should come to TVA

>>73028777
I need to impregnate this woman

>>73028254
>i dont want twitter my oshi can see my shitposting there
but now all the oshis come here instead and so they see it anyway...
...yet I still avoid posting negative sentiments there, and so does everyone else, so the rest of all other sentiments go here, and because I'm here for almost everything else I end up using this place full-time and just turn my public accounts into human-powered positivity bot accounts while my most spontaneous and therefore most genuine positive sentiments end up getting spewed out here too
whch I see happen for a lot of other people so whatever I guess

>>73028777
kiara dont become a public figure if you’re just gonna get one guy’d by a random faggot. dumb WHORE

>>73027954
Hopefully that's not true. Anons have terrible takes, worse than anything tumblr or twitter can come up with. Anyone that just wants to watch cute anime girls probably ruins their experience of it on days they post here.

>>73028920
not my oshi she cant read english lol

https://streamable.com/z0wr9b

>>73028442
There is, he is just being retarded. It happens

>>73027954
/a/ is dead because animu and mango have become boring and stale
Yellow boards are dead porn is easier to find elsewhere and nobody self posts anymore
Drama draws rubberneckers and trolls like flies on dung
Reddit is a self-reinforcing echo chamber because of the voting system
Xwitter is full of teens who invest their identities into their fandoms
Website portals/forums aren't a thing anymore(reddit doesn't count because it doesn't have flat linear discussions it uses a branching system)

That's my explanation

>>73028777
sex with orange women

>>73029073
that doesn't even fully save us anymore when the number of references to 海外ニキor海外勢 and mentions of 4ch and even instances of unironic meme cross contamination from here to JP threads is at an all time high
We have ended up linking our culture here with the culture of Japanese board users who will occasionally straight up repost our shit from here to there for all the jp oshis to see it too
like monkies in a zoo

>>73027954
>How did it arguably become the main English-language discussion platform for vtubers?
Containment breaking sub-continentals like BVTM and Parrot advertising this website like some hot tourist destination

>>73027954
Because of holofans.
Love it or hate it.
This board was created because during holoen debut, /jp/ defeat /pol/ on traffic because of /hlg/.
Imagine, fans from a single vtuber company can defeat /pol/, a literal shitpost central of countries' alphabet agencies against world's basement dwellers.
Now, everyone (other vtubers and indie) want that attention from holofans.
That's why, even with a board primarily owned by holofans, they still post here.

>>73029813
Go back to your hugbox, globaltranny
“holofans” just means EOP secondaries on this mistake of a board

>>73028845
Don't break containment retard

>>73029871
>tourist
>>>/t/witter
>>>/r/eddit

vtuber is just degenerate embarrassing weeb shit for lonely men so obviously all the fans would be 4channers

>>73029813
nice history revision. /vt/ was made cause of Nijisanji and other long time vtuber groups

>>73027954
I can shit on anyone in the industry and not get banned here.

>>73029813
While you are right, you're also wrong
Explaining why you're wrong is complicated though, the simplest way I can think of describing is that when everybody is a hololive fan, everything afterwards comes from hololive fans...which also includes all the ones that drift away from Hololive either partially or fully over the years
So now all the vtubing fans here who watch things that aren't hololive, are still rooted in Hololive. Because a persons introduction to their favorite hobby will always inform their general opinions going forward.
But it doesn't stop there, because in here, the Vtubers that people are watching outside of Hololive ALSO started off as Hololive fans
So you have a situation where the discussion /here/ is no longer dominated by Hololive discussion...but it also sort of is, because the vtubers exist as they do because of them being fans of Hololive, are talked about by people here because the posters were fans of Hololive, and they like those vtubers because they behave closer to what is expected from vtubers in Hololive, which they cater to because they started as fans of Hololive so it informs the vtubers own impressions of what vtubers should be like, which effectively makes every single discussion on this board rooted fundamentally kn Hololive
Even when the discussion isn't about Hololive anymore
The point is, when a significant portion of /vt/ is non-holo discussion, but 99% of /vt/ is made up of people who started out as holofans, and thus are holofan clay, what do you call it?

>post unpopular opinion outside of le ebic unbobular opinion thread on literally any site that isn't /here/
>opinion disregarded, stalked and harassed across multiple threads, permaban or shadowban, doxx attempts across multiple platforms, find your old social media and work place, contact everyone you know and your boss and inform them of your le wrong opinion, lose job, family hates you (they're nijifags), death threats, police show up (also nijifags), SWAT'd, arrested
>post unpopular opinion /here/
>kek
>nigger
>I agree OP don't listen to these other fags
>randomhagpost.jpeg or randomcunnypost.jpeg
>all in all, enjoyable replies
I have no idea what it could be... maybe just better website aesthetics?

>>73031499
He's right tho?
I know you're shitposting, but we get enough tourists here that they need to be handheld and guided past even this kind of lie

>>73028121
Reminder that JP boards with no CD go through 1k posts big threads in like ten seconds during events

because this is the only place you can have honest discussions about vtubers

>>73027954
western subhumans invading a niche hobby as per usual

It's the only sane place to talk about chuubas

>>73027954
/vt/ is full of chatposting. If you go by average word count per post /vt/ is probably among the lowest of all boards.

>>73032505
nah, it would be above all the boards that are just glorified imagedumps

>>73032505
Did you know that /vt/ is using the highest maximum post size on the site?

>>73028845
>Kiara moght see my shitpost
Kiara, i love your body, i wanna have sex with you in the shower.

>>73032505
>>73032621
If Trump loses then i think a lot of polfags will end up leaving in frustration. Then /vt/ might genuinely become the most active place on site

>>73028845
>>73029943
TVA is just /r/virtualyoutubers without Chinese characteristics and less obvious reddit veneer
Unfortunately, the Chinese characteristics were nowhere near the only problem
It sits just below the current state of global...but the current state of global is awful. more and more users drifted out of global as it got closer to tva as well
basically, there's a layer of holofans who most people consider fart-sniffers. They act elitist about what kind of fans are actual fans(in an actually elitist way, not screaming and waving), are usually unityfags, are generally closer to normalfags, and generally come off as people who have unreservedly high general expectations for the posters here. The more normalfaggy ones ended up on TVA. The less normalfaggy ones stayed here and scared most other types of posters out of global. Neither are exactly normalfags, though. But they're close enough to consistently end up taking "their side" on things.

>>73032771
The only thing that would cause them to leave is if the internet becomes less censored again. Don't hold your breath.

>>73032229
>>opinion disregarded, stalked and harassed across multiple threads, permaban or shadowban, doxx attempts across multiple platforms, find your old social media and work place, contact everyone you know and your boss and inform them of your le wrong opinion, lose job, family hates you (they're nijifags), death threats, police show up (also nijifags), SWAT'd, arrested
Generals try to do at least half of these as they're basically designated discord circle jerks filled with self appointed moderators who are avatar or pseudo namefagging with very recognizable style.

>>73033109
I dont know, what a keeps a lot of them going is Trump, its a realistic win for them. If they dont have that, what do they have? Posting rate would go down.

>>73033316
Posting rate will never go down, because they actually have nowhere else to go, as any other place bans /pol/posting on sight. Maybe Twitter won't.

>>73028777
ME ME ME ME
stupid cunt

>>73033476
Twitter now accepts a lot of polshit and there are pol offsites that are even more autistic than pol.

>>73028442
IIRC /pol/ has a shorter cooldown

That'd be for indies/small corpos, corpos have their own circlejerk on any faster/bigger social media so they can mod/prune whatever they want (or fuck up if they are stingy enough to get good PR and CM i.e. Anycolor). The only reason those big corpos come here is either to find things to laugh at for content (niji taking /vt/ posts for their streams, vshojo pointing at laughing at /vsj+/) or memes to take (mogochan being the most recent case)
Indies and small corpos stay here since they can freely post as anons, vent and shitpost. Whenver they wanna be more "professional" they just move to their respective discords.

>>73033048
>The more normalfaggy ones ended up on TVA.
TVA is at least as schizo as here, the posts are just walls of text instead of one-sentence shitposts.

>>73029062
Yeah, ok Millie

>>73027954
/vt/ is the worst forum for discussing vtubers, except for all the others.

>>73027954
More than other subcultures/hobbies, the vtuber community is one in which there are a lot of "rules". There are things you can and cannot say depending on the place, past lives/irl info and such. So some people naturally seek out some place where they can talk freely about things without being tied down by the social etiquette.

>>73028442
>There isn't a cooldown on other boards?!
There is. Cooldown on /vg/ is longer than here, and even longer if you attach an image.

>>73028254
Twitter isn't that bad as long as you check yourself.
I accidentally groomed a 2 view by just being nice in her replies.

/sp/ has peaks like /vt/ does. But also if it werent just soccer all the time.

>>73027954
And yet we have the worst mods team of the whole website. You can't say anything without getting ban on fucking 4chan. Bunch of cunts.

>>73034868
>There are things you can and cannot say depending on the place, past lives/irl info and such. So some people naturally seek out some place where they can talk freely about things
As if it's possible on /vt/ where you get instant ban for pl jokes

>>73036210
just dont be a whiny nigger all the time and maybe you wont get banned

>>73029143
I'm convinced Kson visits here to collect viewers from the Architecture thread.

>>73028777
What threads do you think Kiara looks at?

>>73036210
>vt janny times out/refers you for a ban
>ban denied
>make same exact post again
>untouched
>hits archive
Orgasmic euphoric bliss like nothing else

>>73034981
and this makes twitter good for discussing vtubers because????

>>73027954
/vt/ discusses vtubers as much as /v/ discusses video-games or /pol/ discusses politics, i.e. not at all. Every "discussion" here amounts to screeching monkeys flinging poo at each other.

>>73034981
Subtle bragfag

>main
>~50 people on the entire board, posting ~100 times each per day
OK.

The anonymous nature makes 'discussion' worthless. No opinions can be taken at face value. Maybe that person is trolling, false flagging, false false flagging, has different opinions than you and therefore their opinion is something you SHOULD disregard.
And there is no way to tell any of these apart.
The only value here is getting news fast and sloppy. It's probably not accurate, but it'll be fast.
Also, finding out if your oshi tweeted, or put up a youtube reservation, etc. This place will have the link before twitter or youtube will give you a notification.
But discussion? Heck no, this place is worthless for that.

>>73036663
So normalfags in here being banned in social media. And underage children too.

>>73036758
Do you rere bereeb it?

Newfag has never seen the ip count on a major vt sticky.

>>73027954
>How did it arguably become the main English-language discussion platform
>English-language
lol, lmao. Brown hands, etc.

>>73037119
49 of them work in the Chinese bot farms.

>>73027954
>/pol/, /v/, and /vg/
This board literally a combination of all these.

>>73037633
A large yet undisclosed portion of whom are me

>>73027954
It's the only place where you can actually discuss shit with differing opinions instead of just hugbox central like every other site
also this >>73037964

>>73027954
We have been around since the beginning.

>>73038189
the world would be a better place if 3D models were still the standard for vtubing

>>73027954
>/vt/ averages as the 4chan board with the fourth most traffic, after /pol/, /v/, and /vg/. How did it arguably become the main English-language discussion platform for vtubers?

Simple. This board covers the cross hobby/discussion niches of the following:

1. Youtube
2. Anime
3. Japanese or asian culture such as SEA
4. Non 'woke' or DEI western declining media; focus on cute waifu orientation doing cute things in cute ways
5. Gaming streaming
6. Cosplay, karaoke covers, social, chat
7. Graphic design art, and original fan content
8. Movie watch alongs, usually non-cringe selections

And there is more, look at how Shiori is doing her hobbies, but you get the idea. This board ends up discussing any of the above topics along with the stuff like 'Legal Mindset' is covering such as the subject and topics and legal discussions that are the current events. This board is pretty much all that, but with hilarious anons giving stupid takes and entertaining everyone FOR FUCKING FREE! Hahahahaha! Like comedians with jannie pay.

>>73029296
/a/ is still one of the most active boards on the website.

>>73038189
That wasn't /vt/, that was /a/ or /jp/ board. Unless you meant 4chan was on vtubers first which is true.

>>73028026
FPBP. Chuuba spaces on discord, reddit, twitter are even more obnoxious and difficult to get any real discussion going even without considering the echo chamber faggotry in these groups.

It always weirds me out how disconnected the culture of this board is from /a/. You'd think they'd have a lot of overlap and cross-pollination.

>>73043514
/a/ seems groomed by tranime twitter. Those little fags bother me.
Probably all a bunch of le brisket xD troons.

>>73043971
le brisket xD cute

>>73037119
idk before they took away the counter, /hlgg/ would only peak at a few hundred ips during the biggest events. there millions of people all over the world watching vtubers and only 400 are actively posting /here/. are there really tens of thousands of lurkers just watching the jackassery unfold and disseminating to the wider interwebs?

>>73027954
A reminder that /pol/ cheats because its cooldown rate is twice as faster than any other board.

>>73042447
you say that but this website is ass for the opposite reason, you even have an inkling of criticism for a vtuber and you get called every buzzword: schizo, anti, rrat, sister, etc. there's no real discussion here, it's also an echo chamber but with shitposts and bait posts and actual antis and schizos free to roam around

>>73043514
/a/ is no better these days. Back then, any discussion that wasn't centered around Japanese otaku culture would result in a immediate perma ban. Now, you can make threads talking about Korean manhwa, or English dubs, and not get banned. A while back, one of English VAs for Dragonball passed away, and got a sticky. Meanwhile, a popular manga artist passed away, and got no sticky.

>>73044790
>English dubs, and not get banned. A while back, one of English VAs for Dragonball passed away, and got a sticky.
literally still about anime and i say this as someone that has watched a grand total of 7 minutes of dubbed anime intentionally, so i dont get what you are bitching about on this point

>>73044790
are you talking about Toriyama? Did that seriously not get a sticky? lmao

>>73044719
A lot of that is BECAUSE every buzzword hangs out here looking for drama between masterbating to Vox streams

>>73044887
No toriyama got a sticky with like over 10,000 posts

>>73028026
fippy bippy
>Discord is full of self-fellating troons
>Reddit is a hugbox where no one can say anything negative ever
>Twitter
this board fucking sucks, but it's the best out of the main English vtuber discussion platforms.

>>73027954
because there is no other place on the internet where you can discuss ongoing livestreams outside of livestream chats

>>73045331
I mean that's only the holo subreddit that's a hugbox. Nijisanji is anti central after corporate abandoned the sub and I say this as someone that genuinely believes a lot (but not all) of the rrats happening at niji are happening.

Then virtualyoutubers is filled with SEA doxxfags which isn't too different from here but different enough.

I otherwise agree with your posts.

>>73044526
Yes
>t. posts on this website an average of only around 30 times a year

>>73028026
fpbp, although most of my preferences lean towards the format of /hlgg/ where random ongoing streams are being commented on without dicksword's filter of basically being everyone already in chat minus those that can't be bothered with dicksword's shit.

>>73045528
Niji is watching the subreddit closely enough to be deleting all posts about the Luca situation at least kek
Might actually be Luca himself doing it though. The talents are mods there

>>73029871
>>>/jp/

>>73028077
+discords are either offtopic circlejerks, hugbox circlejerks or anti/doxfag circlejerks

>>73032229
>>randomhagpost.jpeg
Ah, it’s as if heaven on Earth were possible

>>73036998
Twitter and stream notifications is what the discord servers are for.

>>73038189
this, /jp/ was very much into vtubers years before r/hololive even existed.

in fact for a time up to late 2019 you essentially did not have English discussion on this subject much outside of here. also clipfags are disliked today for mostly doing shitty clickbait, but back then when it was all holoJP, they actually served a critical role as translators as well hence had some actual worth and influence because they could choose/screen what Holo content us foreigners would make images to manipulate from. niji etc were literally not in the picture at all even back then, it was 99% Hololive discussion. this board very very literally was made for Hololive. it predates nijiEN's existence and most of the small corpos too. when /vt/ started, indies were only talked about literally on /trash/ because they were too Westernized for /jp/ (no affiliation to a Japanese company).

people who talk shit about holo or complain /vt/ focuses mostly on holo, is like talking shit about Ford going "pfft who cares they never mattered much vs Tesla", it's a "nigga what, do you have any idea how the industry got built the past century" moment.

>>73039686
It's not free. My payment is seeing my shitposts get reposted by others.

>>73049868
also I will qualify that "/jp/ vtuber discussion was 99% hololive" as being basically late 2018/early 2019 on, there was a time in the earliest days where /vyt/ was a fairly balanced place and it was the four kings era, but that's long been gone and in terms of -relative- bulk of discussion, /vyt/ was as slow and meek as any of the other generals on /jp/ that took days to cycle over just one thread, that is it'd get like a couple hundred posts a day. now /vt/ gets hundreds of posts in a few minutes.

>>73027954
It's the only site that's capable of filtering out the trash effectively. On Reddit or Twitter you have nobodies taking up disproportionate amount of space. 4chan's limited thread format makes it so that you have to either be popular or have more dedicated autists to create and retain space.

>>73027954
Because it's a streaming medium and imageboards are perfect for liveposting

>>73027954
because we are specially made for retards

>>73028026
no

>>73029296
>Website portals/forums aren't a thing anymore
SB only is relevant for fics

>>73059647
Worm but AU, Worm but that, is there only Worm in there??

>>73027954
Most people want to talk about non hololive vtubers but due to the way social media works, hololive would drown out every other discussion of vtubers. This caused vt to be the only place on the internet where you can make a thread about some small vtuber and not be drowned out.

>>73028026
Because this is the only place that isn't a gathering place for cults or corporate controlled or a hugbox/echo chambers run by power tripping mods.

>>73027954
>why is an anonymous website prime for gossiping

>>73061362
>hugbox/echo chambers run by power tripping mods
congratulations you just described /vt/

>>73032229
Ok nigger

>>73044790
Holy newfag, moot said 10 years ago manwha was allowed on /a/

>>73061899
*cums in you*

>>73062154
Based!

>>73036998
>And there is no way to tell any of these apart.
literal skill issue

>>73043514
A lot of us are old /a/nons but /a/ has really gone to shit. Only threads there that still feel like home are the watchalongs of old animes.

>>73063409
I stopped watching anime years ago so the last time I regularly frequented there was honestly around 2015 or so, I'm probably out of touch. I'd have thought at least some of the old memes would have survived.

>>73060205
while worm is only relevant here and SV, i only post here due tanya's

>>73063409
>Only threads there that still feel like home are the watchalongs of old animes.
ironicaly enough /tv/ now works for discussing old anime

>>73044719
>schizo, anti, rrat, sister, etc.
Those are the types of posters that makes /vt/ non-general threads.

>>73036998
It's called critical thinking and analysis anon

>>73036998
I spy with my little eye~ an anon that wants a pie!

>>73027954
Women post here unlike most other boards so that increases the userbase of the board by a fair bit.
Why do women post here? Because it's essentially a gossip board.

>>73032229
not to mention:
>post unpopular opinion INSIDE OF le ebic unbobular opinion thread
>downdoot, hidden, permabanned, stalked and harassed, IP leak, geolocation doxx, protests outside your house 24/7, arrested for thoughtcrime
you asked for unpopular opinions, retards

>>73033048
TVA is phasefags central. I don't know why you are trying to imply they are any different than kiwis.

>>73060647
This place is hololive central. The only other place who rivals holo threads in discussion is pcg because their talents pander to this shithole since day 1.

>>73060205
Dont be silly, theres also 'novelization of a chyoa litrpg but actually we just go through the character creator and then abandon the story before writing a single narrative passage'

>>73029504
>Japanese board users who will occasionally straight up repost our shit from here to there for all the jp oshis to see it too
>like monkies in a zoo
We do that here too. In fact, I'd say we did it first. It's just that the international scene has grown bigger so we've started feeding memes into them too instead of just taking from them.

>>73036758
>>73037119
All me and my 49 AI robot clones with Internet access

>>73029504
wwwwwww yara... ne! 4chanimals yabai.... neeee!!! WWWWW

>>73044719
can't have your cake and eat it, you basically described all the other high traffic boards, if not all of 4chan

>>73028026
fpbp

>>73028777
based

>>73029296
>/a/ is dead because animu and mango have become boring and stale
false

>>73029871
newfag

>>73028077
>>73049504
>>73061362

All of them are here. Discord fags literally own certain threads and mass report shit that doesn't suit them. Sometimes even things that are not against the rules get removed because discord trannies act like pseudo jannies.
Example: pushing a ship that they don't like, astroturfing a girl that they personally don't like, etc.

>>73032076
>>73029813
true

>>73028442
>>73033669
>>73034969
I never noticed this

>>73063802
shit nigga they're doing medabots now?

>>73027954
I'm slightly concerned that /vt/ occasionally pops up when you Google search a vtuber's name, even if it's a JP one

>>73028077
the only relevant discussion

>>73028026
>everyone saying fippy bippy to a retard who is too pussy for 4chan
probably a woman.

>>73079304
I’m hoping that’s due to it being tailored to your history, and not just blank slate browsing...

It's the internet's designated drama board

>>73028026
Feel free to leave any time.

>>73028777
its literally the internet, did she expect that its all gonna be rainbows and sunshine?

>>73027954
this place is dead anon.

>>73074499
yeah, hololive global

>>73079304
what's concerning? Don't you want me to summon your 2view oshi to a thread on this board or something?

>>73036386
kys bootlicker

>>73061362
>isn't a gathering place for cults or corporate controlled
roru
/vt/ is the only board where you can get banned for piracy. It's tourist central, mods and jannies included.

>>73074499
>there’s a thread dedicated to my oshi
>people go offtopic and bring up someone not my oshi
>remind the fag where he is presently
>he chimps out and makes twelve catalog bait threads about it
>spams enough and samefags until he gets nuked
>rinse repeat

>>73086708
I forgot global is dedicated to Kiara, my bad

>>73028026
Too many bad words?

>>73036758
>>73037119
>>73044526
Haven't you guys heard of the 10% principle on social media? For every 100 people seeing a post, only 10 bother to interact with it (liking or upvoting it), and only 1 person is actually producing new content. It works like that basically everywhere - twitter, reddit, youtube comments - and 4chan is no exception.
So only these 1 percenters are making new posts and shitting on the catalog, while the overwhelming majority just watches on.