/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Not only did niji do nothing wrong, we were doing a public service by teaching those bitch traitors their place.

Enna is cuter than Doki

>>72987791
Enna is cuntier than Doki*
*FTFY

>>72986803
Your people crap on the sidewalk.

Good luck convincing Vtuber normies of anything but the established narrative. Omg my dramatuber said doki did nothing wrong based on his research of tweets.
I think niji screwed up pretty hard but I’m guessing doki also messed up since no one in niji or ex-niji wants to defend her it seems.

>Nijisanji are the victims
LOL

>>72986803
>>72986908
>>72987791
>>72988551
Samefagging your bait thread isn't gonna get it traction faggot, It will be deleted just like the last one, GIVE, UP, Stop trying to rewrite history, we all saw what happened in feburary and literally everybody has moved on except for you blithering femcels who can't let it go, Stop dramafagging and watch some streams

>One of the only Ex-Niji members to not shit on Niji whenever possible
>Sisters deem her worst then the Anti Christ
Someone explain why their brains work like this

>>72989166
>Everyone who disagrees with me at all is the same person
> I eat a diet of exclusively chalk and crayons.

>>72989216
Because she made them (Niji) shit on themselves, and in a massive way
Which in turn validates everything everyone else has been saying about Niji, from the former talents and from fans, for the past 4 years

>>72989166
>Nooooo, they all said something I don't like, such things can't be possible, they only can be the same person, yeah, HAHAHAHA, that is what is going, they are all THE SAME PERSON HAHAHAHAHAHA
Schizo

>>72989216
>the best revenge is living well
>Sisters: if we make her life a living hell, she can no longer have her revenge!

>>72989216
Because niji's smear campaign against her and the subsequent backlash is the reason EN is in serious risk of dying (let's ignore the fact EN was dying before selen and pomu were gone as per the Q3 results), They think if they can smear doki and turn public opinion against her that somehow that will bring NijiEN back into the spotlight, They are delusional and can't fathom that even IF selen somehow was """overreacting""" to everything and somehow in the wrong, The reason everyone hates niji is due to how THEY acted publicly and how they responded, Not to mention the blatant lies about selen's character that were disproven by the dozens of artists she worked with coming out of the woodwork to call out the BS in that termination letter, Also the counterprogramming of her neopets stream which caused her to cancel it and nearly have a full panic attack breakdown on stream, These fuckers can't grasp it was niji's fault because they are brand worshipping third world garbage eaters who lack human decency and empathy

Only thing Doki did wrong was not expose Niji and what they've done. Oh wait, forgot Niji did that themselves & thought it looked good.

>>72989362
> I eat a diet of exclusively chalk and crayons.
Yes, we could tell by your insistence on defending a blatantly black company, through one of its manifestly worst offenders no less.

>>72986803
>taking into account the majority opinion of everyone who has left

Pomu, Nina, Mysta, and Kyo all make it sound like they were battered housewives who finally managed to escape.

>>72989362
>>72989614
Samefagging again retard?, Give it up, You inbred retard, Kill yourself you fetid little pagpag, Doki did nothing wrong, Nijisanji killed itself by smearing her with lies that were easily called out by all the people who have worked with her over her career and vouched for her character, She has done NOTHING to dramabait or shit stir even once, Only responding to niji's attacks on her and then moving on, Go shitpost about matara and quinn shit talking niji every chance they got, Or sayu who leaked her fucking contracts to that gator, Doki is the LEAST of your worries sister

>>72989812
Pomu broke down in tears, Matara keeps talking about how shit ""hollywood"" was, Quinn talks about how much of a NIGHTMARE it was, Kuro as well, We have sayu constantly obsessed with it, And Mint on her dearsqn account certainly acting like a traumatized wreck with how much she was breaking down over the support she was getting even from her twitter spaces, The ONLY Ex-Niji members not actively shitting on niji are doki and u-san, for fucks sake doki ran counter-rrat defenses for them and didn't shit talk them or make snide comments ONCE in her vtuber advice stream,

>>72990043
(Me) *Pomu broke down in tears regarding her Once in a Lifetime opportunity, Is what i was trying to say

>>72989406
>>72989615
So sisters are literally just too petty to take the easy out of just NOT fanning the flames and are in too deep to back down?
>>72989658
Wait they actually thought a smear campaign against one of their only big name EN members with good PR would work?
What third world idiot thought that was a good idea?

>>72986803
Is it a requirement for bait threads to have “now that the dust has settled” in them?

>>72990205
The same third world idiots continuing to seethe and smear her a full 2 months later, Calling her a grifting menhera, comparing her to rushia, Making blacklists of anyone supporting her, Obsessing with her /here/ and on their nyfco doxxsite because they see her as their mortal enemy when she never once fired a single shot at them and just kept trying to move on

>>72989779
> black company
As if you fags had heard that term before niji or could name any examples of black companies. All you “people” can do is repeat talking points fed to you by this site or Twitter.
I hate that you retards are incapable of not making everything into a neat easy narrative. Niji clearly fucked up with how they handled stuff, that’s not really even a question but it’s also entirely possible doki fucked up. One does not exclude the other.
They didn’t approve her video on time, she freaked out and told people to reupload it. I can understand where she was coming from but she also had the option to just play by their stupid Japanese rules and leave at the earliest opportunity like everyone else does.

>>72990514
Hello newfag
I don't know if you know but she literally said
>I asked to have a normal graduation and they denied me and they terminated me
So she did exactly what she tried to do but your black shithole deathtrap of a company that everyone wants out of, denied her.

You're fucking retarded stop bootlicking

>>72990514
>It's entire possible doki fucked up too
NOBODY GIVES A FUCK IF SHE MSSED UP OR NOT
>She could have just played by the rules
Why is luca not playing by the rules and allowed to go on like nothing happened?, He stole a Hololive BGM, Fucked over elden ring perms for everyone, Had his entire career built FOR him by his VR Chat mommy, the list goes on, What did doki do wrong?, Oh a single MV?, Yeah that justifies them lying about her not paying artists or breaking third party copyrights only to retract that excuse after it came out she DID get all the perms and make up some BS about needing permission to use nina and mysta which future organs wouldn't need to do when they used pomu in their MVs

Which EN members can recover from NijiEN collapsing?

>>72990514
>2% merch cut
>They can steal half your paycheck at anytime for infractions they have unilateral say over
>They own everything you use when working for them, Even equipment and assets you fully pay for and commission yourself or things you owned BEFORE joining
>Management is nonexistent lazy ESLs
>They can lock you into your contract without your consent
>T...Totally not a black company guys

>>72990915
Scarle and Aia mainly, despite the low view numbers they are the only ones doing good in supas

>>72990724
> You're fucking retarded stop bootlicking
You are literally incapable of critical thought. I don’t care about defending niji I don’t have some brand loyalty I haven’t watched any of their streamers in a while because I didn’t want to deal with all the drama around the company.
Niji could be a terrible company but that doesn’t mean doki wasn’t in the wrong in some respects. Two things can be true at once. For example I could hate my boss because he is an asshole but I would still be in the wrong if I leaked company documents or something.

>>72989658
You forgot to mention their slave contract.

>>72989812
I can believe everyone except Kyo, he's a lying two-faced motherfucker who tried to have it both ways wherever he went. He's the reason 39Daph was trying to shit on Doki.

>>72991133
>I don't watch Niji or know anything that happened but I'm right!
Are you a fucking retard? What's even your point? You say Doki was wrong. Ok, about what? Literally what did she do wrong? Tell people to reupload her song? That's the only thing she did, and fine sure I'll make you happy and agree that was wrong. Was it wrong enough for a month long suspension and a termination? What warranted that?

>>72991039
Damn Vivi Rose and the Chunni boi aren't doing well? sad to hear but good for Aia and Scarle

>>72991133
>doesn't mean doesn't mean doki wasn't in the wrong
Because it doesn't matter, stop trying to simp for a corporation you bootlicking faggot

>>72989812
The only real difference in opinion feels like the grads blame the cult but refuse to acknowledge the cult members part in it.

>>72991039
Yeah these two are the ones away on their own little islands. Their ccv is very low but consists of whales. So they wont actually really lose anything. They dont have enough of the wider nijibox to really lose anything by cutting it off, and the viewers they do have are 100% dedicated enough to follow them.

>>72991613
Because doing so is just unnecessary drama and instead of wanting a nonstop petty deathwar like S*y*, everyone just wants to move on with their lives (and because S*y* is so obsessed it's why no one has reached out to her lmao).

And that's a reasonable and sensible decision to make. You don't want to come off as a vindictive bitch who's whole personality is your ex job.

>>72986803
Heard Kotoka was going to get the boot. Is it true she was the snake who sold out Mel? I honestly feel sorry for her bcoz I watched her a lot when she debuted and I don't really care about what she did to Zaion anyway but her being the cause for Mel's termination would unironically make me hate her guts.

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>>72990971

>>72991910
Did you unironically censor Sayu's name tik-tok style? Go back nijisis.

>>72986803
Let's assume that we say "yes". What does it change? All the shit Nijisanji is eating is caused by their own devices. The problem is not rooted in public perception, but the literal inability of a company to shut the fuck up.

>>72992859
>>>>>>>>tik tok invented vowel censoring
Anon you exposed yourself

>>72992859
>Did you unironically censor Sayu's name tik-tok style? Go back nijisis.
Ironically, you're the one who needs to go back. That's been a 4chan thing for forever

Her model and fanart can be hot, but everything else about her sucks.

>>72990915
I'd imagine that pretty much any NijiEN member (except for maybe people like Luca and Elira who have a shitton of drama weighing them down right now) could probably leverage their experience to get themselves hired by one of the smaller corpos, then use the fresh start to rebuild.
As far as specific examples go, though, I can think of at least two who will almost certainly be fine:
>Rosemi has her ex-Tsunderia connections in Phase that she could easily lean on to get nepo'd in if she wanted. Harada might be willing to take steps to help her out, too
>Kunai literally had more subs on her PL and had plenty of connections in the League of Legends scene (including a few people who are bigger than most NijiEN members, lol); unless she's done something to burn those bridges since putting her indie identity on hiatus, I'm sure her old social circle would be more than happy to help prop her up

>>72986803
Here's a (You) to go with your rope

>>72986803
Enna anon. It's ok. Let it go.

>>72989838
You seem to not know what samefagging is, schizo

>>72986803
Enna cute

>>72991133
If you can find anything that was actually her fault in this, good luck. I'm sure Nijisanji would pay you your weight in gold to save their stock prices. Selen hasn't had a real yab in her entire career to this point that wasn't her overreaching for the sake of her fanbase or missing important emails due to being overworked. Her career under the company has been virtually spotless, and everybody not directly under Nijisanji's payroll has ever had a bad word to say about her.

>>72991910
>sayu's so obsessed
She's been harassed for over a year. In person, too, cuz you know the "people wanting to move on" got ahold of her personal information and address. It's hard not to acknowledge those people when they're sending you death threats every day, sometimes to your actual home.

>>72995708
>uz you know the "people wanting to move on" got ahold of her personal information
You stupid faggot
Why're you pretending I meant fans when I clearly meant ex nijis. You're arguing in bad faith.
And I'm not condoning that shit, but that wasn't the original point

>>72998896
She's not. Most of her complaints about actual backstabbers come from people who were "friends" before joining Nijisanji, and then ditched her after she left, only to jump onto Doki's coattails as soon as it was convenient, like Cy Yu. Those felt more like betrayals than anybody at Niji other than Nina, Kotoka, Finana who she actually tried to get close to.

>>72989216
>Hurr durr me tried to killz meself cuz Niji bad
>One of the only Ex-Nini members to not shit on Niji
Someone explain why their brains work like this

>>72993056
I've been here a lot longer than you, sister - and it hasn't been a 4chan thing. Do try to remember that this board is practically uncensored and unmoderated, and the world is vastly better for it.

>>72989216
>One of the only Ex-Niji members to not shit on Niji whenever possible
And other jokes you can tell yourself. She has no identity past being Selen who was wronged by le heckin evil corpo. She has no identity past being Selen, that's why everything she does is just a rehash of what she did in Niji. She even makes the same long neck jokes despite that not even working with her model.

>>72991133
>doesn't mean doesn't mean doki wasn't in the wrong
Because it doesn't matter, stop trying >>72999785
>noooo you can't tell people you tried to kill yourself think of the COMPANY IMAGE
shut the fuck up freedom hating nigger

>>73001636
Rare based fumo post, holy shit.

>>72989658
>The truth doesn't matter!
>It's because Nijisanji were rude and lied!
The Dokifag playbook when they realize she's a liar. Half of those artists confirmed she actually did pay artists late but blamed Niji for it since they're retarded and don't know how anything works. Them being "mean" is them defending themselves, they're not going to stalk Doki to find a time where she isn't streaming to defend themselves. The world doesn't revolve around your menhera

>>73001636
>>73001837
No one said she wasn't allowed to announce her attempt retard. That's a strawman you created. But announcing that Niji is to blame for the attempt contradicts the statement that she didn't shit talk Niji. Learn English so I don't have to explain next time. And stop samefagging. It's pathetic.

>>73001895
Based truther!

>>72999785
Doki said nothing about what happened to her at Kurosanji EN until the termination notice came out, and it contained a great deal of actual "shit" (defamation of character and half-truths).
If Doki hadn't pushed back, the narrative would have been accepted in Zaion/Sayu fashion. It has been accepted uncritically by the NDF sycophants.
Ultimately Niji did this to themselves. Their unhinged sister fan-base continues to pour gasoline on a raging fire. Someday this will be a teachable moment at university level.

>>72990971
>2% merch cut
Disproven by the contract
>They can steal half your paycheck at anytime for infractions they have unilateral say over
You can't fucking read. That's only money made off unauthorized content uploaded on company accounts
>They own everything you use when working for them
Wrong, it says they own everything they lend you. Have you never read anything important before?
>Management is nonexistent lazy ESLs
Actually the majority of Nijis talk and hang out with their managers when they're in Japan
>They can lock you into your contract without your consent
Do you mean they give you two weeks if to decide whether you want to leave your contract or not? I don't think you know how companies work if you think they can just force you to stay in a contract . The real ESL must be you

>>73002033
Not reading your shit until you pull the corpo arm using you as a meat puppet out of your ass nigger

>>72995708
It's funny how you retards insist that Sayu was harassed in person but no one posts any clip saying she was and instead it's just Sayu schizoing out about the possibility of someone shitting on her in person

>>73001895
MONGOLOID RETARD, SHE DIDN'T LIE ABOUT ANYTHING BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T S A Y ANYTHING
>The truth doesn't matter!
Actually it does, the truth is doki got fucked over by a seething jealous clique cause she had everything they didn't, Connections, Talents, Fans, the works
>Half those artists confirmed she actually did pay artists late
Mongoloids making up bullshit lies again and again kill yourself seriously
> Them being "mean" is them defending themselves
DEFEND THEMSELVES AGAINST WHAT!?, SHE DIDN'T S A Y ANYTHING, AGAIN, THEY FIRED EVERY SINGLE SHOT THEMSELVES
> they're not going to stalk Doki to find a time where she isn't streaming to defend themselves
Oh sure they don't, Must have been a coincidence that they initially scheduled the black box stream for 5:30 pm PST. a full half hour after doki was set to go live, But then RESCHEDULED IT to 5:00 pm flat ONLY after doki's waiting room went up, Yep totally not a deliberate stab in the back
>The world doesn't revolve around your menhera
Neck yourself mongoloid
>>73002033
>But announcing that Niji is to blame for the attempt contradicts the statement that she didn't shit talk Niji
We seriously need to region ban SEAfaggots from this board jesus fucking christ, The way you think in circles and cling and claw and scrape so DESPERATELY for anything to justify your shitflinging is downright pathetic, Her saying she experienced bullying and harassment within the company was the ONLY thing she ever said negatively about them up to that point and the only thing she ever said negatively of them SINCE, Meanwhile matara goes on a """hollywood""" rant every other week, Sayu is perpetually living in the past for it, Kuro shit on niji for months after too, Quinn made his WHOLE fucking redebut all about how much of a "nightmare" it was there, But someone DOKI is the only one you inbreds focus on, Seriously get over it, Get over her, She has done NOTHING to you, It's all niji's own god damn fault

>>73001895
>Half of those artists confirmed she actually did pay artists late but blamed Niji for it since they're retarded
Source?

>>73002464
What, do you want audio records of the phone calls and death threats?
There's records of her information being spread all over twitter and the dox site, and for several of her early streams back she cried about the harassment. Did you think people just forgot about it? She had to move because of it before someone tried to swat her house or set her car on fire.

>>73002335
>Disproven by the contract
No it wasn't
>That's only money made off unauthorized content uploaded on company accounts
No where did it specify this
>Wrong, it says they own everything they lend you
No it didn't
>Actually the majority of Nijis talk and hang out with their managers when they're in Japan
Irrelevant nonsense and doesn't at all dispute the claim they are ESLs
>Do you mean they give you two weeks if to decide whether you want to leave your contract or not?
Did you not read the part where "Any activity done under the identity of the character signals automatic consent to renewal of contract or any and all edits to the contract"?
Jesus fucking christ literally EVERY one of your bullet points was a fucking lie, Kill yourself you worthless inbred pagpag

>>73002324
The funniest shit is this is 100% on them. If they just let Doki leave quietly like she wanted, she would've even let the suicide thing get covered up as she focused on her new career, just like she's doing now. She's done nothing but continue where she left off.

>>73002778
The source is they made it the fuck up, Literally EVERY negative thing they have to say about doki has been completely and utterly fabricated, Literally every, single, one, There is no arguing with inbred tribalistic mongoloids

>>73001636
nazrin why are you here

>>72986803
April Fool's Day was three days ago.

>>72989216
Honestly I think it's just shitters looking for drama, because nobody really hated her in /NijiEN/ before or after.

That said, she isn't a saint, but that's neither here nor there.

>>73003092
It's discord raiders trying to flood threads with whatever narrative their collective 39IQ can muster. The doxxsisters are sadly sending their best and this is it

>>72986803
Foreigners need to understand the importance of loyalty to the company. In Japanese society, treason is not accepted. This is one of the reasons Japan is considered a leading nation in Asia. Riku-sama is performing excellently, and he has the support of all Japanese people.

>>73001629
Women tell me where I'm wrong? When has she shat on Niji?
>>72999785
Hi Enna how's becoming irrelevant?

>>73002636
A GURrat believer expects anyone to take his delusions seriously? What talent does Doki have? The only connections she's built is through being the anti Niji cash cow
>Mongoloids making up bullshit lies again and again kill yourself seriously
Kek half those artists complained about NIJI not paying them so Selen had to despite Selen always being the one that's supposed to pay for her commissions. Multiple Niji members talk about having to pay for covers out of pocket.
>DEFEND THEMSELVES AGAINST WHAT!?
Seethe more. They didn't just make up an accusation to defend themselves against. She wrote her all in her document which she said she'd talk about to the public.
>Must have been a coincidence that they initially scheduled the black box stream for 5:30 pm PST.
Bingo. Now you get it. When three people have to meet up to record something, these people would rather do it sooner than later because they would be busy. They also learned that Tazumi would make his own statement. You schizos are actually obsessed with Niji. Someone could be talking about soul and you'd twist it into them saying Doki should be dead

>>73003258
They definitely know about loyalty as an american vassal state lmao

>>73003449
Don't they have to pay through Nijisanji specifically so it can count as a business expense on their taxes?
>Seethe more. They didn't just make up an accusation to defend themselves against.
They literally did. Doki never made anything public despite them claiming she was blackmailing them. If she was blackmailing them, why not release the information after negotiations broke down? It's not like Niji was playing nice with the whole "We're gonna make sure you never work in this industry ever again btw thanks for all the money and assets you made for us."

Only divine intervention will plug the holes in this sinking ship. I hear more graduations coming soon. I don't think this branch is gonna last til summer...

>>73002977
"Now that the dust has settled" we have before us a perfect example of how anti-marketing never works and always blows back. Saner companies would have learned their lessons from the repeated failures and moved on to more successful strategies - like shutting the fuck up. This one does not. Won't make a difference to Riku, though - he'll just shut the EN branch down or fold it into the JP branch like he did with IN and EN v0.

>>73003449
>what talent does doki have?
More ambition and drive to actually get shit done then all of Niji EN combined. High level FPS player and ladder grinder. Extrovert who can get a collab going in an industry dominated by introvert shut-ins.
>They didn't just make up accusations
Well I'd argue there was a lot of bullshit in their termination notice, but you're right. They were the first to bring up harassment and bullying. They were the ones to do the black stream after doki wanted to move on.
>insane cope about the timing of the black stream
Out of your mind.

>>73003449
Post arm and power outlet

>>73003681
If only Riku forked a couple coins hiring a real lawyer instead of some random shmuck in the office, a lot of this retardation could've been avoided.

>>73003847
I'll save you the trouble, their arm is brown and their power outlet looks like this

>>73003449
>The only connections she's built
Was by being the biggest female member of NijiEN, The FACE of Nijiunity, The collab organizer, The deal maker, The project organizer, The logistics girl, And being completely and UTTERLY spotless within the company, Her only "sin" was actually being the OPPOSITE of "Anti Niji", You history rewriting fucktard, SHE WAS THE B I G G E S T Nijishill in the fucking company, She defended the corpo when they cancelled AR Live while all of luxiem minus luca were bitching about it, She defended niji for EVERYTHING they were fucking up, She took the fall when THEY fucked over her projects, Took all the blame onto herself multiple times over, To the point dragoons were considering dropping her for how much of a battered housewife she was being
>Kek half those artists complained about NIJI not paying them so Selen had to despite Selen always being the one that's supposed to pay for her commissions. Multiple Niji members talk about having to pay for covers out of pocket.
Nijisanji is still supposed to handle said payments even if the organ is the one paying, They had to send artists NDAs and paperwork in order to work with selen and they either never did OR misspelled them and sent them late, Wasn't one of the biggest complaints they had about selen in the termination document something about her not getting proper clearance for things?, WELL WHEN THE COMPANY IS FUCKING UP NDAS AND ARE MONTHS UPON MONTHS LATE FOR DEADLINES, OF C O U R S E SHE'S GONNA TAKE MATTERS INTO HER OWN HANDS RETARD
>She wrote her all in her document which she said she'd talk about to the public.
A nijisanji dicksucker expects anyone to take her delusions seriously?, She never said she was gonna make any fucking document public, Niji lied about it, Like they lied about everything else, Doki has ONLY ever said she wanted to move on, You can say this is a "she said corpo said" situation, But considering doki has N O T O N C E shown any bitterness or lingering ill will after it was all said and done, And niji has a LONG long history of being vindictive and garbage and untrustworthy, Yeah i'll take doki's word that she had no intent on making her suffering public, Also here is a minor little factioid that is a little important nothing too major but uh N O B O D Y W O U L D H A V E K N O W N A B O U T T H E D O C U M E N T I F N I J I S A N J I D I D N ' T T E L L U S I T E X I S T E D
>Bingo. Now you get it. When three people have to meet up to record something, these people would rather do it sooner than later because they would be busy.
Do you seriously... S E R I O U S L Y believe that livestream wasn't pre recorded?.. Oh my fucking god you brainless fucking ape how utterly retarded can one sister be???, You S E R I O U S L Y want all of us to believe they deliberately rescheduled it half an hour early on coincidence?, God you inbreds all deserve to die, Your organs deserve to die, Your company deserves to die, You are all worthless fucking dregs and wastes of oxygen, a cancer on the entire vtubing community

Much like every time Niji fucks up it's because they're idiots.
Literally just needed to NOT speak after the termination and everything would have been fine but whoever is in charge of the EN branch had to be a petty child and give the okay on the black stream.

>>73002424
I accept your concession pagpag

>>73003258
Uh, no, Riku-"sama" IS the problem, and Anycolor's current stock price is a reflection of same.
The investors recognize it, despite the majority being Japanese themselves (which would ensure a shared set of cultural values).
As it turns out, dumb-ass trust-fund kids running companies into the ground and burning through shit-tons of Mom & Dad cash is a universal trope.

>>73002778
This is one, there are two others. Also Aia revealed on stream that the person responsible for sending contracts to people working on commissions is the commissioner. So any horseshit about people not being sent the contract on time is Selen's fault

>>73001629
Man you clearly have never watched a single dokibird stream since she came back cause literally everything you said was a complete and utter lie
>OMG THIS PERSON HAS THE SAME PERSONALITY AS BEFORE WHY DIDN'T SHE CHANGE ALL OF HER MANNERISMS AND JOKES DOESN'T SHE KNOW HER ENTIRE IDENTITY IS NIJISANJI PROPERTY NOW????"
Kill yourself and your entire inbred pagpag kind sister

>>73002636
Retarded SEA sister is seething. I ain't reading all that.

>>73003904
Riku-"sama" was saving his coin for the inevitable buybacks.

>>73004092
I think the sister is pulling your leg because he jerks off to your emotions. Please calm down.

>>73004241
Post the two others

>>73003838
>High level fps player
Kek.

>>72986803
>Sister thinks the dust has settled
lol, lmao even
We haven't even seen the effect the SEREN SHOKKU will have on Riku's yacht yet.

Oh yes, here's the goat translation:
>Q3 was when farmer Riku had to tell his landowner that he only sold 60 goats compared to last years' 100 goats
>Q4 is when he's sold almost 0 goats thanks to his main female goat peddler getting fired and abused so hard, no one else wanted to buy his goats

>>73002636
>REEEE WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT DOKI
Because the thread is about Enna allegedly bullying Dooki. SEA sisters displaying their subhuman iq once again.

>>73002886
You whine like a bitch. Guess you're not called /vt/rannies for nothing. It's amazing how everything you say is either a lie or just marker sniffing retardation

>>73004241
>ESL machine translation
>Somehow spins her blaming the corpo as her blaming selen
>Bullshit nonsense about something entirely unrelated that aia said
roru, rumao even

>>72989166
Let them believe there's nothing wrong! It's exactly that kind of attitude which imploded Nijisanji ID.

>>73004291
Uh anon that person was defending doki, They were responding to said Retarded SEA sister

>>73003646
>If she was blackmailing them, why not release the information after negotiations broke down?
Are you playing retarded? That's like what she did the second she found out she got fired

>>73004193
>corpo slave calling anyone a paypig
Thanks for the laugh dao, I don't even watch doki but I'll be sure to send a dono in just for you the next time she's live

>>73004380
Top percentile is top percentile. I personally don't jerk off to e-sports pros, so replace "high level" with whatever you like.

>>73004538
>Doesn't dispute any of the points made
I accept your concession sister, Wash your itchy infected pagpag cunt

>>73004688
Damn, you SEA fucks are just going full retard in this thread. Never go full retard.

>>73004380
If you want, you can prove her wrong. She always says she never hides her map on stream because if you need it to find her, you can't kill her.
She's no pro, but to deny she's at least great at FPS games is just disingenuous.
>>73004241
Selen is not a lawyer able to draft contracts or NDAs, and last I checked, neither is any of the organs. You're an idiot and that screenshot is not arguing in favor of you.
>>73004571
You really can't read, huh?

Can you bitches stop using my oshi's face for your war? Unicorns hate Enna, drama vultures want someone easy to hate as their big mastermind villain, but none of that shit has anything to tie Enna to Selen being some grand adversaries. Hell, Selen is one of the few NijiEN's Enna would happily collab with more than once, and they were all friendly collabs with good banter and chemistry. The idea she's a bully is a fanfiction for drama starved addicts.

>>73004571
>Picrel for ants
>Doesn't dispute any of the points made
I accept your concession, Also we all literally read it and we know what was in it, You are just straight up wrong

>>73004784
>Doesn't dispute any of the points this thread is about
>Deflects
I accept your concession sister. Wash your itchy, infected, pagpag cunt. That's how the sentence would look if you actually knew English.

>>73004682
Really? So can you link me the document that has Elira, Millie, and Enna's address in it? That's what the blackmail was for, right? Or are you just being intentionally obtuse?

>>73004848
>unironic Ennacuck

>>73004682
What info did she leak retard?, All she said was that she experienced bullying and harassment in the company, and that it was so bad she made an attempt on her own life, And now she was moving on and done with it

>>73004799
I think you replied to the wrong person anon.....

>>73003838
>More ambition and drive to actually get shit done then all of Niji EN combined
And then she proceeds to not actually do things properly then goes off the rails instead of following the rules.
>High level FPS player
kek
>Extrovert
KEK What kind of tourist shit is this?
>They were the first to bring up harassment and bullying
Wrong, that was Selen. Just because you didn't see it doesn't mean it didn't happen. The fact you think people streaming at the same time as each other is proof of malice shows you're a deluded faggot

>>73004958
Shit's flung in such quantities he literally can't tell who's dissing who anymore. Pls be patient.

>>73004958
No, I'm talking to you. You confused pagpag with paypig. Retarded SEA cunt.

>>73004682
Ah yes she posted the blackmail after she was fired. And your proof of that is where exactly? Surely you have SOMETHING to back this up?

>>73005021
>Nijinig still seething at Doki to this day
lmao

>>73005021
>Just because you didn't see it doesn't mean it didn't happen
Actually that is exactly what it means, Nijisanji accuses selen of accusing them and saying she is gonna go public, Doki says she had no intentions to do anything except move on, Doki's word is more trustworthy because nijisanji lied about other things like her not paying artists or breaking third party copyrights when she did neither

Guys stop fighting! You're making Kronii sad! She might have another meltdown again!

>>73005229
I love Kronii even if she doesn't love herself.
We love you clock.

>>73005155
>seething at Doki to this day
>Nijinig
Pot meet kettle

>>73005021
>And then she proceeds to not actually do things properly then goes off the rails instead of following the rules.
the rules were so bad that in the two months she's had since leaving the company she's put out more successful projects than the entirety of NijiEN in 2023. And all she's doing is the exact same shit she was doing for them, only faster and better.

>>73005297
>Put out more successful projects
Name one.

>>73005229
A kronii and doki collab would be hilarious

>>73005127
Nice try champ

>>73004092
>Nijisanji is still supposed to handle said payments even if the organ is the one paying
Interesting because Raziel's Luca hit piece proved that the payments come from the member's pockets directly
>They had to send artists NDAs
Wrong, the person commissioning them is supposed to send the NDA. It's faster than way
>She never said she was gonna make any fucking document public
Memoryholing the Neopets stream is a common Dokifag tactic.
>Yeah i'll take doki's word
So you admit you're retarded? You're trusting someone insanely mentally ill with a history of being a gaslighter that has motive to lie because Niji bad
>The stream was pre-recorded
Is that why they included Vox stuttering and Ike inhaling water? Also much texto. Keep the larp to a minimum

>2 months later
>Doki still infuriates sisters by simply existing
kek

>>73005355
Her charity event which raised over 250k
Her apex tournament appearances and twitch rivals tournaments
Her various merch drops
Her new model which is coming really soon
Her Dokibites animations

>people defending fucking nijisanji
Even for shitposting reasons, that is kinda pitiful.

>>73005355

>>73005521
>4 years later
>Niji still infuriates sisters by simply existing
Kek

>>73005530
NIJI dipped below Phase and Idol in terms of rep, it's incredible.

>>73004846
>Selen is not a lawyer able to draft contracts or NDAs
It's a good thing the only thing she's supposed to be doing is sending the contracts and not writing them. Retard

>>73005021
Retarded rules don't deserve to be followed

>>73005522
So a charity event that anyone could've done. Wow. So much....

>>73005506
You're telling me a company like Niji trust's people with no experience in writing NDA's to write an NDA?

>>73004940
Who the fuck was talking their address? Nijisanji said she was threatening to make her claims public if negotiations broke down then that's exactly what she did. Claim being "I was harassed to suicide in Nijisanji". They told you what would happen, it happened and now you're just denying that people already told you what would happen

>>73005530
That's literally this board whenever someone tries to bring up Hololive

>>73005756
you of course have proof of this yes?

>>73005506
>Interesting because Raziel's Luca hit piece proved that the payments come from the member's pockets directly
...What on earth are you talking about? You didn't even read the document. Luca said he specifically could not give her a contract or pay her properly because he'd be fired if he did.
>Wrong, the person commissioning them is supposed to send the NDA. It's faster than way
Source?
>So you admit you're retarded? You're trusting someone insanely mentally ill with a history of being a gaslighter that has motive to lie because Niji bad
and you're trusting Nijisanji, the company hated by absolutely everybody who's ever been able to escape, as well as everybody who's ever had the displeasure of working with them as an outsider.
>Is that why they included Vox stuttering and Ike inhaling water? Also much texto. Keep the larp to a minimum
Yes, it's a common strategy. That's why Elira was fake crying to appeal to emotions, Vox sounded authoritative and dismissive, and Ike was the "rational" one, but he really just sounded like someone who didn't want to be there at all.

>>73005506
>Raziel's Luca hit piece proved that the payments come from the member's pockets directly
Luca paying her directly when he wasn't supposed to isn't proof of proper procedure retard, in fact its the exact opposite
>Wrong, the person commissioning them is supposed to send the NDA. It's faster than way
That* way first of all, Second, Are you SERIOUSLY telling me talents are not only expected to do everything themselves for their projects but WRITE UP THEIR OWN NDAS FOR EACH THIRD PARTY THEY WORK WITH?, What in the everloving fuck is management even FOR at that point??
>Memoryholing the Neopets stream is a common Dokifag tactic
Oh you mean the one where she was hyperventilating and struggling to speak because of the stress she was under?, The one where she kept stuttering and speaking in circles as to not say anything self incriminating?, Yeah sure she was TOTALLY in a right state of mind and everything she was saying should be taken at face value, She DID release a statement by the way, The one she put out on twitter after she calmed down and spoke to her lawyer about what she should do
>You're trusting someone insanely mentally ill with a history of being a gaslighter that has motive to lie because Niji bad
>The stream was pre-recorded
Is that why they included Vox stuttering and Ike inhaling water? Also much texto. Keep the larp to a minimum
She isn't insanely mentally ill, She isn't a gaslighter, She has and always WAS completely spotless and yabless within the company, She had NO history of lying or fucking anything up before, Also "has motive to lie because Niji bad" Fuck off she was their biggest shill and is STILL the only one not shitting on them after leaving, AFTER EVERYTHING, She was running subtle DEFENSES for them and didn't say a single negative thing about corpos during her vtuber advice stream, Jesus fucking christ
>Is that why they included Vox stuttering and Ike inhaling water? Also much texto. Keep the larp to a minimum
They very obviously edited it together to make them look as sympathetic as possible retard, Elira's crocodile tears and the "fear" in her voice, Vox's "betrayed" voice, yeah it was all intentional, Also the part where they show screenshots from discord, Those were obviously edited in and not pulled up live like what the fuck are we talking about???

>>73005158
>Doki says she had no intentions to do anything except move on
She never said that. Why must you lie? She said she ORIGINALLY had no intention of making anything public. She clearly did make things public. And having lawyers at the ready to threaten legal action against people doesn't sound like someone who just wants to be left alone. You faggots and your victim complex are unreal

>>73005685
Really? Because sisters were crying about how Vox completely mogged her at first because Vox earned "so much more" before she shot past it.
You should be happy it was so successful! She raised that money for you, after all!

>>73005809
They literally win by doing nothing, I don't even have to half the time lol

>>73005609
>Retards still think nijisanji will still exist this time next year
kek

>>73005756
wait, so you're saying she should have denied that she attempted to kill herself because it made nijisanji look bad?
She should've lied to save the face of the company that wanted her dead?

>>73005609
>self proclaimed largest company and their cultish fans shit up the industry for years
>get shit on for being a tumor
oh nyo how could this happen?!

>>73006007
>Stock price going down
>Win by doing nothing

>>73006048
That's just how japs roll in these kinds of companies. No wonder so many go hikki.

>>73005756
>Who the fuck was talking their address? Nijisanji said she was threatening to make her claims public if negotiations broke down then that's exactly what she did. Claim being "I was harassed to suicide in Nijisanji". They told you what would happen, it happened and now you're just denying that people already told you what would happen
Per the black box stream THEY SAID that the "document" that doki had contained elira's, enna's and millie's addresses, and a recording of vox taken without his consent, A document that doki never mentioned up until having to respond to them, The part about doki "making her claims public" was done IN RESPONSE to nijisanji's smearing termination letter, what was she supposed to just stay quiet and take it like sayu had to?, Accept the career ending smears they were throwing at her to make it so nobody would ever work with her again?, Fuck you

>>73006058
But enough about Holo

>>73005963
Lawsuits are public. If she actually took action, we'd know about it and be able to search them up. You're an idiot. She's made no attacks whatsoever towards anybody in Nijisanji. You know who did? Literally everybody else who left the company, but I don't see you making daily Quinn seethe threads calling his "nightmare" defamation.

>>73005963
Please explain how she made anything public other then confirming that she tried to get them to let her graduate on neutral terms and that she did go to Niji about bullying?
Please explain how she made that public when the first mention of bullying or an attempt to take her life was brought up PUBLICLY by Niji in the termination notice.
Surely you have evidence to back this up right?

>>73006141
Literal slave mentality, it's no wonder they still bow to washington

>>73005963
>She said she ORIGINALLY had no intention of making anything public
Yeah and the reason she couldn't is because nijisanji fucking smeared her and fired her
>having lawyers at the ready to threaten legal action
Lawyers don't automatically mean legal action you third world retard, They were their to make sure she didn't incriminate herself in any of her statements and to help her legally negotiate a way out of her contract, NOBODY mentioned legal threats or actions, not once

>>73006167
>Career ending smears
Bitch started throwing smears first with her "I tried killing myself cuz Niji bad." Fuck around find out.

>>73006176
>t. newfag

>>73006325
Actual ESL holy shit

>>73006117
yagoo is probably hoping the stock crashes so he can buy it all back up and take the company private again, he is in it for the Idol Dream and has repeatedly told vulture investors to fuck off, Unlike riku who has pulled every trick in the book in order to inflate the stocks and yet they are STILL crashing down

>>73006117
Ahmed, aren't you were supposed to be at the goat market right now?

>>73006366
Show me what errors were made then Mr. English teacher. Fucking retard just cries ESL when he can't refute a point.

>>73006423
Post outlet and hand

>>73006325
The termination letter CAME OUT BEFORE HER "i will not be silenced" tweet you fucking timelooping illiterate fucktard

>>73003203
I'm just saying I doubt there are many actual Nijisanji fans starting these threads. I mean I wasn't the biggest Selen fan and I see no reason to shit up the board with lies and bullshit.

Honestly, it feels like at about noon Australia time this site gets an influx of trolls and shitters in both directions. Like people can't wait to start trouble.

>>73006391
Cope. Delicious cope.

>>73006325
Please tell me where she smeared Niji the company or anyone specific in any of her statements. You do realize the Termination Letter came before any public statement right?
Surely you understand that unless you're a willing idiot right?

>>73006444
Exactly. Yoj cry ESL and can't even point out the supposed mkstakes in the sentence. Retard has to cope because his stupidity has been exposed.

>>73006423
Here let me carefully breakdown everything wrong with
>Bitch started throwing smears first with her "I tried killing myself cuz Niji bad." Fuck around find out.
She never threw any smears around, Her i will not be silenced tweet came out after the termination letter came out, "Fuck around and find out" is what happened to nijisanji after they fucked with their best talent, So i guess you got that part right

>>73006423
The sentence has awkward flow structure indicative of not speaking it natively with other native speakers.
Also it's fucking retarded because the only people to publicize that she was hospitalized due to her mental state was Nijisanji itself. If they didn't fire her to paint her as the daughter of lucifer, she never would have had to clarify why she was hospitalized.

idk about the others, but Enna is a top-tier bitch. A lifelong bully with serious mental problems.

>>73006448
And the career ending smears you were crying about came after Selen's tweet. Subhuman can't even get his argument straight.

>>73006477
>t.

>>73005887
>Luca said he specifically could not give her a contract or pay her properly because he'd be fired if he did.
Yeah and if you look at the screenshot, you can clearly see him paying her by labeling her work as commissions. You retard
>Source?
Her art stream from a month or two ago. Time to do your reps
>Don't trust overy thirty people because I don't like the company they work for
The mindset of children
>Yes, it's a common strategy
So in your ill mind, they decided to make Vox sound authoritative but included him stuttering. You're a faggot

>>73006528
Still don't see your hand and outlet, must have some reason to hide them but I wonder what.....

>>73006591
Which Selen tweet? the Skin walked tweet? The please Reupload the Cover tweet where niji later does in fact confirm management did take down the cover? Which tweet did she make to smear them woman?

>>73006554
Cope.
>>73006545
Ok, and? Termination letter said why she was fired. Are you implying a termination letter were "career ending smears" now, even though originally you were talking about the black stream? By that logic Hololive smeared Mel when they gave the reasons for her termination.

>>73006464
Nijisisters are holed up in self-containment since they'll get prolapsed by everyone else, even in cucked sites like reddit. If it really is aussies, a great deterrant is lolis, since I recall it's literally illegal over there.

>>73006591
>The career ending smears came after Selen's tweet
Uh no they didn't, They said she failed to pay artists and broke third party copyrights and all demanded unfair restitution IN THE TERMINATION LETTER which came B E F O R E her tweet, You fucking idiot

If Elira hadn’t posted that black screen shitshow and it was just Riku’s apology video, I think far more people would’ve moved on by now. And I’m a holofag. Vox pissed me off especially. This still doesn’t discount anything Sayu and Pomu said. OP is still a fucking nigger.

>>73006048
So how come she was threatening to in the first place instead of just immediately doing it if she's so just? Surely if you catch someone committing a crime, you report them instead of threaten to report them in exchange for something. That is what you'd do, right?

>>73006605
Nice family photo
>>73006679
Still haven't seen the mistakes in my English, giving a reason to show hand and outlet.

>>73006325
You don't even have the sequence of events correct.

That's okay. It takes courage to admit you're wrong. You won't, though, and the board is amused by your efforts to make a compelling argument.

>>73006738
Ok Hololive smeared Mel when they said why she was fired. That's your logic.

>>73006167
>The part about doki "making her claims public" was done IN RESPONSE to nijisanji's smearing termination letter, what was she supposed to just stay quiet and take it like sayu had to?
You retards still can't explain how exposing multiple suicide attempts and pining it on people is in any way defending yourself. She didn't say anything in the notice was wrong and never even mentioned it. How the fuck is that considered a response?

>>73006737
I don't think it's Aussies specifically, but Australia shares a timezone with most of Asia.

I just don't think it's Nijisanji fans. Maybe some of them are, who knows. I know I'm certainly sick of all the bullshit being blamed on "Nijisisters" like it's a goddamn witch hunt.

>>73006727
>Ok, and? Termination letter said why she was fired. Are you implying a termination letter were "career ending smears" now, even though originally you were talking about the black stream? By that logic Hololive smeared Mel when they gave the reasons for her termination.
They claimed in the termination letter she repeatedly failed to pay artists, She did not
They claimed in the termination letter she repeatedly broke third party copyrights, again, She did not
They claimed she was going to go forward with a smear campaign against them and break her NDA in the process, SHE, DID, NOT
Not paying artists and breaking third party copyrights and breaking NDAs are HUGE Career ending accusations you fucking shit eating retard also this " even though originally you were talking about the black stream?" Is literally made up fanfiction, I was talking about both, and i was ALWAYS referring to the termination letter first and foremost

>>73006727
>Cope.
With what? Doki's thriving and Nijisanji's "top talent" can barely touch half her numbers on a late night unadvertised guerilla zatsu stream. The entire english speaking world despises that company, not just the vtuber community. And all of the ex-talents except for that snake Quinn are performing FAR better and seem far happier than they were under that awful company.
I think you're the ones having to cope here, sister.

>>73006793
Sorry, goat trader-san. I know modern economics are a little hard for you to understand.

>>73006767
See that's the thing almost everyone with a working brain agrees that the Riku Video being the last thing Niji ever brought up in regards to the situation would have been enough. It's just third worlders that think the black screen video was a required to clear Niji of any wrong doing

>>72986803
>Enna pedo deflection thread

Please tighten the noose, pagpag enjoyer

>>73006770
>So how come she was threatening to in the first place
Because she wasn't and never did?

>>73006903
>She did not
Evidence?
>Because she said so
Fucking SEA sisters. Which gets us to the whole point of the fucking thread you are trying to avoid. Where is the evidence Enna is a bully. This goalposts shifting ends here.

Is this thread a time capsule from February?

>>73006912
>>73006915
>Cover stock going down
>I-I'm not c-coping. G-goats!

>>73006898
Please tell us who she blamed for the attempts. Please show where she named a singular member of Nijisanji as the cause.

>>73006848
>Yagoo and A-chan retweet mel and talk about how hard working she was and how important her legacy to hololive was and always will be and how much they regret what happened
>They let her tweet on her mel account to say goodbye before terminating her
>The termination letter in itself just says mel broke NDAs and doesn't insult her character or smear her with easily proven lies
>Nijifaggots comflate the two because they have 39 IQ

>>73006770
Do you have proof she was threatening to release them? Because she said specifically that she never intended to publicize the document you love to worry about.
>>73006848
No because they were so vague that people don't even know who or what she might have leaked NDA about, she still meets regularly with hololive talents who speak well of her, and her career seems to be going fine on her new(old) account. Compare this to Sayu immediately after her termination who was borderline suicidal and returned to numbers worse than before she even joined the damn company before taking into account the fact that she's still harassed by you cunts to this day.

>>73007032
>Farmer A starts with 32 goats in their public herd
>Farmer B starts with 12 goats, in their herd
>Farmer A, Despite buying more goats, lending goats, and cutting their herd of goats into two mini herds of goats, now only has 25 goats in their public herd
>Farmer B, Who still has some goats privately held in a pen on their property, Now has 24 goats
>Going from 12 goats to 24 is good
>Going from 32 goats to 25 is bad
>Each goat represents 100 yen in stockprice

>>73006898
She never blamed any specific person for the attempts retard, She didn't dispute anything because she didn't need to, They were so blatantly false that everyone she ever worked with came out to dispute them FOR her, All she said was that she was moving on, And she did, end of story

>>73007032
Since when was Doki part of Cover?

>>73006903
>They claimed in the termination letter she repeatedly failed to pay artists, She did not
>>73004241
>They claimed in the termination letter she repeatedly broke third party copyrights, again, She did not
If you forget about her resident evil perm fiasco, her fall guys tournament and many other times she fucked up perms, she never violated copyright!
>They claimed she was going to go forward with a smear campaign
And then she did. Nothing works better for a smear campaign than multiple suicide attempts and sad parents! She also started constantly bringing up her dog and how much she missed it.

>>73006986
>Evidence?
All the artists and third party copyright holders coming out to say she paid them and she got permissions and it was all niji's fault?, there's the evidence
>Calling nijiAntis sisters while literally being a SEA Pagpag herself
Kill yourself

>>73006986
You clearly don't use twitter because there were over a dozen artists claiming Selen was the one who paid them because the corpo didn't. I don't care what your opinion on the website is, it's there. Find it, you waste of chromosomes.

>>73007068
>Smear her with easily proven lies
>Has given no evidence they're lies
>Holofags deny the similarities because they have 39 IQ

>>73007171
>>73007178
>A dozen nobodies claim Niji didn't pay them
SHOW ME. If anything this just goes as more evidence Doki would take on projects before getting managements approval.

>>73006793
Nope, you're not going to post it because it'll prove you're brown and retarded

>>73007073
>Do you have proof she was threatening to release them?
Release what? What the fuck are you talking about? I'll throw you a bone with the document though. It's in the Neopets stream you faggots love to forget didn't happen unless it's about Niji being mean

>>73007164
People like you are the reason victims don't want to share their stories. You'd probably say "she deserved to be raped" after seeing a bitch in slutty cosplay. The inferno is too kind for alley trash like you.

Kek the fact multiple people are actually arguing in this thread at all is proof that the Doki narrative is shifting and the bullying accusation is made-up psychotic shit

>>73007164
That image is arguing FOR Doki, not against her you twit. They're talking about how incompetent Nijisanji was and how Selen had to cover for their ass AGAIN. And on top of this, you're seriously saying how she should've just lied about trying to kill herself to save the face of the company that wanted her dead. You're disgusting.
>>73007183
>easily disproven lies
...what? are you okay? Have you been getting enough sleep?

>>73007271
Only brown and retarded person here is you for calling everything ESL and now you're seething because you've been exposed.

>>73007171
The proof of your lies is in this very thread. Artists didn't get paid on time, third party copyright holders weren't consulted about the video as it says in the contract they exist.

>>73006986
Oh so you can provide evidence that she never payed any of the artists she's worked with?
Surely you can back up this claim?
>Evidence that Enna is a bully
See that's the neat part: the evidence is Elira saying the names of herself, Millie and Enna. Niji claimed that the Livers were the cause of the bullying. Simply by using common sense seeing as Doki never named anyone as the the source and the only reason we know about any bullying is because of Nijisanji, then the only people who were named in the document are the most likely suspects.
Funniest part is the only reason this is public is because of Nijisanji

>>73007344
False victimhood is another reason actual victims aren't believed lol

>>73007320

>>73005933

>>73007371
Exactly. I've seen people arguing it on the black stream comments too. This bitch is lying. Elira is coming back with receipts. Mark my words.

>>73007344
I don’t paint targets on my chest and go walking around a firing range. I’m NTA and Niji can get stuffed, but I still hate that mentality you’re spouting.

>>73007320
The neopets stream where she was clearly under distress and thus none of her statements would hold up in court? The neopets stream where she was having a mental breakdown on stream after being caught without a lawyer on the very first scheduled stream where Nijisanji knew when her stream would be and specifically moved a program a half hour back to match her stream starting late? That one?

>>73007371
I want to point out that she never said she was bullied. Nijisanji claimed that she said she was bullied.

If you believe them (that she said she was bullied), then you should give weight to their other claims. It's illogical to pick and choose facts.

>>73006986
>Where is the evidence Enna is a bully.
She literally SAID that, she bullied kids all throughout school. She even gave us explicit examples when she randomly goes off on people who were just being nice to her. She has been a bully since childhood.

>>73007440
Selen naming them doesn't actually prove they're bullies, just that SHE PERCEIVED THEM AS BULLIES.

>>73007476
>Exactly. I've seen people arguing it on the black stream comments too. This bitch is lying. Elira is coming back with receipts. Mark my words.
Yeah, two more weeks and she'll bring ALL the receipts. Now when the entire company's lost nearly its entire viewerbase and superchats have dried up faster than a fish in the desert.

>>73007440
>They were mentioned in a document I don't know the contents of
>They could have been mentioned for any number of reasons
>This proves they're bullies
Schizo speculation.

>>73007376
>That image is arguing FOR Doki
And it's also saying that Selen has shitty communications and paid her late. Which means Niji isn't lying. I also never said she lied about her suicide attempt, she did turn it into a weapon though. Like a highschool drama

>>73007267
>SHOW ME
https://twitter.com/weeniedesu/status/1754600196103938462?lang=en
https://twitter.com/LilyPichu/status/1754736476762640409
And a dozen others, Fucking kill yourself

>>73007546
Are you aware of the contents, anon?

>>73007515
>She bullied someone ten years ago that means she was mean to Selen
Holy fucking schizo

>>73007519
It doesn't have to. Nijisanji's response is all that's needed to show them harassing their employees, both past and by extension, current. Even the normies don't buy that bullshit. They SAW the Neopets stream.

>>73007596
Kek. Lilypichu. Asking a twitch whore to cover a song over a tweet is legally different than getting legal permissions. Anyway, want to provide evidence that Enna is a bully instead of deflecting?

>>73007484
>Doki threatens to release the document publicly
>"It doesn't count because she's a menhera!"
Now you're taking a page from the NDF playbook? Did you get perms for that?

>>73007639
Enna is a mentally fucked up person anon. She is fucked up. She bullies people, she bullies her own fans, that's part of her streams. Her fans are all submissive faggots who want a woman to bully them, that's her entire appeal.
She used to bully her coworkers too before the Secret GC stream, which made her finally stop.

>>73007655
Yeah me too the same stream where she essentially shut down and started repeating the same line for about five minutes straight because Niji were calling her out on her shit

>>72986803
The only thing they did wrong was that they didn't vet their hires enough to make sure they are not hugh crazies. I mean, causing all that drama, all that emotional stress for your coworkers and fans for a shitty cover based on a shitty song. Why would you hire someone like that?

>>73007371
>>73007476
>Kek the fact our timelooped brigading and dismissal of all proven facts again and again is a CLEAR sign we're winning!!!!
Kill yourself and you inbred kind pagpag

>>72992859
she really meant Soya duh

>>73007576
...No, it says specifically that they were expecting Nijisanji to give them a contract, and they did, but in late january, which was after the video was completed for over a month. They clearly fucked up the process and have a history of doing this as countless contractors have corroborated the same story. It's proof that Nijisanji is a complete shitshow that can't even be trusted to do basic tasks.

>>73007599
No, which is why I'm not claiming anyone as the bully, unlike you. Retarded schizo

>>73007412
See >>73005499
Your turn retard

>>73007711
>Doki threatens to release the document publicly
SHE NEVER SAID THAT, All she said was that she was gonna consult her lawyer and issue a statement, Which SHE FUCKING DID

>>73007478
NTA but a decently-sized number of people think this way, and that's reality. It's fine to be skeptical of both sides, and it's in vogue to be skeptical of Doki recently since playing contrarian is funny for anons to farm reactions. None of it is genuine argumentation because an overwhelming majority agrees that it's likelier Niji fucked up more than Doki has.

>>73007714
>>73007711
I mean if you want to argue it you can, but literally every person in the western speaking world is still taking her side over this, and the numbers show who they find more trustworthy. Nijisanji has broken the west's trust for the last time, thank god.

>>73007710
So no proof other than your schizo delusions. I accept your concession.
>>73007791
Pagpags are retards who make assumptions with no evidence. Smart men clearly don't do that. Do you think Einstein would agree with you? Subhuman iq.

>>73007844
You buy the organs’ claims at face value, though. You likewise have no answers but choose that your perception is favorable.

>>72986803
Raiding /vt/ because you are scared of a ghost. LOL BOO

>>73007706
>Receives the proof they asked for
>Dismisses it
>Deflects with a point nobody was talking about
Kekaroo, I accept your concession, I wasn't arguing about whether or not enna was a bully, I was arguing about whether or not doki was in the wrong, And she isn't, Fuck you

>>73007975
Weren't the sisters supposed to like Mint? After all, she's not Doki. Did they turn once they saw she might get better numbers without them again?

>>73007800
So the artist confirmed that Selen did fuck up payments and fucked up communication but you're ignoring that because they said Nijisanji bad? You faggots are delusional. Nijisanji does not directly get involved with people hired for commissions directly. The person responsible for handing over NDAs is the person commissioning them. Raziel's hit piece proved that Luca hired someone he described as a commissioner and that Nijisanji never spoke to her directly

>>73007946
>No evidence
Maybe if you are blind deaf and retarded

>>73007967
Impartiality is not taking anyone's words at face value. I don't expect a worm like you understand such concepts. You just go along with whatever is trendy to feel better about your insignificant ass. The truth will always prevail. It may take years but it always prevails.

>>73008005
Give it a week, it might actually start happening. If Matara drags out a few more anti-Niji sentiments out of her, the hate will start.

>>73008027
>So the artist confirmed that Selen did fuck up payments and fucked up communication
Taking Machine Translation at face value and deliberately reading it wrong to extract he opposite meaning of what it was actually saying

>>73007854
Oh no! A liar! It's not like anyone can just look at the transcript for the stream and see how many times the term "document" is mentioned

>>73007987
>Deflects with a point nobody was talking about.
Retard this thread is about Enna and bullying. You've been Deflecting this whole time
>Receives proof they asked for
Isn't legal proof of anything retard.

>>73008027
Luca also hasn't been punished for his blatant NDA breach, copyright violations, subcontracting out his work, false advertising, and harassment. I don't think Nijisanji's responses to him should be taken at face value since there's clear signs of favoritism.

>The n-narrative is shifting guys! We are winning! WINNING!

>>73008005
They love her because she's pretty firmly in the Hanamori crew and won't be caught dead shilling for Doki. Maia is both Elira's best friend and Mint's mod.

>>73008047
>taking anyone's words at face value
AGAIN RETARD, WE HAVE EVIDENCE OF NIJI FUCKING LYING, STOP IGNORING IT

>>73008047
My skepticism reigns above your supposed impartiality. If you believe the truth falls in your court, that’s not impartial; you are clearly partisan by how you type.

>>73008112
OK, and she did. The twitter statement is a document. Did you think all documents had to be in pdf format?

>>73008041
So where is the evidence then? A document nobody knows the contents of? Except you, who does know what the document is and it is a piece of paper that just says "Elira, Enna, Millie meanie poopie heads."

Haven't been her for a while, did the sisters ever acknowledge doki's numbers, did her !big popularity boost make them seethe?

>>73008047
>it may take years
Good good, that's smart. Already prepped for the "two more weeks" for years in advance.

>>73008047
Bud, I know that projectors are expensive, but isn't this far more labor intensive? I don't even get an image, just a description, and strangely with me as the villain instead of you.

>>73008112
She mentions the document was signed to be private and NOT shared with anyone you fucking inbred mongoloid, She didn't say ANYTHING ABOUT MAKING IT PUBLIC, also she was in a panic because she was worried they leaked her personal fucking info, Which was IN the document

>>73008152
...And if you've paid any attention at all you'd know that that's not a big CCV drop from before the Selen fiasco?

>>73008213
they're seething in this very thread

>>73008153
Grim. I'll still hold my judgement until things cool down. Either way her content isn't my style so it wouldn't hurt too much to drop her.

>>73008137
You know subcontractors are allowed in Nijisanji mentioned in the contract, right? Luca didn't harass anyone and there is no false advertising as management gave Luca a signature before he even debuted. Faggots are reaching

>>73008152
Those numbers reflect the decline of covers stock. Good job "winning."
>>73008163
Ok. Niji lied. Where is the evidence Enna is a bully? Enna isn't Niji. Try again pagpag.

>>73008027
Selen's greatest sin is her recurring habit of not responding to emails, something that has continued to happen since her return to Doki.

But artists receiving NDAs with the wrong name in them and expecting payment for months, only for Doki to foot the bill personally, tells anyone with a functioning brain that there's incompetence in the management. How hard is it to get a NDA template and copypaste *artist name* into the blank fields?

>>73008272
Why did his signature change drastically, then?

im begging you shitters what does this shitposting do? this isnt gonna save niggersanji, can you just watch them in peace and buy your chinese merch

>>73008187
>Clearly partisan by how you type
By saying that people have no evidence of the claim they make?

>>73008239
On any given day all of them are sub 700 and half of them are sub 400, This was an abnormally good day for them, supas are still completely in the shitter tho regardless

>>73008317
It didn't

>>73008272
Allowed with express permission from the company. Which it was acknowledged multiple times, Luca didn't have that permission. He tried to keep Raziel secret. Raziel herself tried to contact Niji to get something properly set up, and they ignored her.

>>73008335
>>>>>>>

>>73008361
Proof?

>>73008207
Yes, the one that Nijisanji claims was so dangerous that they immediately terminated her over and had Elira and Vox come up with a sob story about how Selen is evil to stop their numbers bleeding out the ass after the termination.
The one you sisters are still demanding she release despite her stating that she never had any intentions to, but you're outright demanding she release the "blackmail" you claim she has and that she's always said they were lying about. Maybe if they get desperate enough they'll leak it themselves just like before.

>>73008288
>This is the greatest day
>Ha ha Haa Ha ha Haa buuu dululup

>>73008317
Oh I see holocucks are trying to deflect now that they have been called out for not having evidence that Enna is a bully. Here's something for you to seethe over.

>>73008389
>Being so utterly buttfucked by logic and reason that you whip out the bot

I won.

>>73008382
Sister's are so dumb, they should just ask Vox and Elira to show them the documents. Maybe they would have because they are all a bunch of idiots.

>>73008335
Are you sure?

>>73008233
>"I guess I will be releasing these documents very soon. I prepared something , just in case but I was going to keep it quiet and keep it private"
So how exactly did she prepare a response to the stream before it even happened? Are we running with the psychic narrative now?

>>73008361
They didn't terminate her over the document. And why can't Selen be evil? Is she immune to criticism because she claimed to have made an attempt on her life? Your bias is showing.

>>73008395
>clearly the same penmanship
Wew lad

>>73008446
That isn't "Drastically" different.

>>73008288
>le cover stock
oh paki-chan, how many times do we have to bring out the goat analogy before you understand?

>>73008419
I quoted Enna's tweets on the days of Selen & Pomu's letters? Did you think it was rambling lol

>>73008446
Deflection. Cope. Enna isn't a bully. You have no proof.

>TFW I play devil's advocate but start to unironically believe Niji were in the right

Do not let sisters shitting themselves distract that Sisters claimed Doki has publicly smeared Niji and when backed into a corner because they couldn't prove/they started claiming that the thread was about Enna being a bully and started begging for evidence.

>>73008395
Did you accidentally post this instead of Luca's ex gf signature?

>>73008466
>If it's Holo it's ok
>If it's Niji it's fake
How about you just admit you're a retard who doesn't know what he is talking about?

>>73008447
They released a termination slander piece on her a week prior. She prepared things in defense after seeing the shit they did to Zaion. She's not an idiot, no matter how much you try to paint her as one. Her lawyer has more brains in him than the entirety of Nijisanji's legal team and staff combined.
>>73008452
She can't be evil because her record is spotless and the closest thing to "yabs" she ever had is overreaching for the sake of making her fans happy, or missing an email due to being overworked and being unable to hire assistants.

>>73008516
https://streamable.com/32zdvc

>>73008549
Go to the sister's doxxsite. Either their retarded rambling there will cure you, or you've found your new home. Good luck

>>73008447
>Again taking anything she said as though she was fully sound of mind and not stressed the fuck out and panicking
God you fuckers really DO lack all emotional empathy, I hate asian culture so fucking much

>>73008452
Anyone can commit crimes and not one living person is without fault. The problem is in the lack of the patterned behavior being consistent with claims against her.

>>73008561
Look at the main subject and picture OF OP. It was clearly about Enna. You're the fags who were backed into a corner and now you're so desperate you're churning out two week old Luca signature drama.

you guys know if you spent even two percent of the effort you put into shitposting, into supporting the streamers instead, it would be much better for niggersajjer right?

>>73008339
But she doesn't know whether or not he had permission because she never spoke to any staff in Niji. She never said she went to Niji and asked for things to be set up. She said she emailed a manager about her being harassed by people she timed out and that they didn't respond then Luca told her to just let him handle it

>>73008549
>TFW i make up complete and utter nonsense

>>73008648
nijinigs don't care about the organs, only the company's honor matters

>>73008596
>>73008599
Pretening to understanding a online person's personal qualities and nature is schizophrenia and not proof of anything.

>>73008653
If she didn't know she had permission, she didn't have permission. Isn't this the same logic you use when you call Selen a moron for the tournament perms problem?

>>73008568
It’s more like that in your example, it’s clearly a single author.

FUCKING SISTERS YOU PUSSIES. GO BACK TO FAILING TO DISPROVE DOKI. I WANT TO SEE SOME TRULY INSANE NONSENSE FROM YOU FAGS. PUT SOME EFFORT INTO YOUR SHITPOSTS YOU LAZY CUNTS.

>>73008687
So isolating your gen mate is not bullying. Mmmm kay.

>>73008635
>Lack of patterned behavior
>Niji shows patterned behavior in termination letter
>Hurr that doesn't count

i gotta say, china's one child policy has been disastrous for the human race

dokifag arguments really just boil down to "It happened it's obvious trust me" "the company bullied her to death" and random cursing interspersed with "sister"

>>73008637
Only the OP image is Enna of. The Subject of the thread was initially and quote "So now that the dust has settled, taking into account the majority opinion of everyone who has left, Nijisanji basically did nothing wrong, right?"
Notice that once you Sisters are called out for being idiots you derailed the thread

>>73008687
So you're calling her evil because... vibes? Because it's impossible for Nijisanji to be this overwhelmingly stupid, malicious, and mismanaged?

>>73008715
>Grown women crying when coworkers don't want to talk to her
And this is proof of Enna bullying Selen, how?

>>73008474
>flat lines where curvature used to be
>essentially brutalized in it’s most recent adaptation
It’s not even a stylistic variation, it’s just an objectively lower quality of both cursive ability and shaping.

>>73008596
>She prepared things in defense after seeing the shit they did to Zaion.
It's funny you say that when the response directly talks about things said in the stream and that she said she was shocked that the other members were allowed to read it. What an insane prediction from her part on her knowing that Elira would complain about her location being alluded to and that Vox would talk about him being recorded while also not knowing what document they were even talking about. She's just insanely smart, guyz

>>73008758
It's more like "Anything that anycolor says that's clearly throwing somebody under the bus to protect themselves is a lie, so the truth is clearly the opposite due to their previous behavior."
but go off, sister.

>>73008773
I never said she was evil. That's a strawman. I'm just saying her words shouldn't be taken at face value just because she tried killing herself.

>>73008758
bro Doki's side is literally NijisanjiEN Termination letter
>o btw even though she was hospitalized and we tried calling her, we found no evidence of bullying but we HAD to terminate her because of this private letter
Nigger the reason why Niji didn't go to court is because they would lose on day 1 and make her even more popular and very rich.

>>73008769
>Called out for being idiots.
Sounds like you guys, which is why you shifted to Luca

>>73008722
And ai remain skeptical given how practically no one not in Niji’s umbrella grants corroborating stories. Anykara has decided to cease all transparency, and I doubt that’s due to being immutably correct here.

>>73008873
Nice narrative and speculated reasons but there is no evidence for any of that

>>73008804
she was being fed the information through messages sent by someone else. How do you sisters always miss this obvious point? She took several hours to prepare and modify the statement, which is longer than Nijisanji took for the termination notice. They fucked themselves so hard that they had to walk back half their shit on twitter afterwards.
>>73008847
Yes, and Selen's pattern of behavior has shown her to be a trustworthy source throughout her several years of service. Meanwhile, Nijisanji has shown itself to be a malicious liar on several occasions to the point where they couldn't win a fucking defamation case in japan against a drama tuber.

>>73008873
Attempting suicide and blaming it on Niji doesn't make it true. And again the stupid letter wasn't why she was fired. It's because she's dumb and didn't ask for song permissions.

>ITT nijipags timeloop the same talking points from February

>>73004538
>>73007371
>>73008419
>>73008549
>>73008758
>>73008909
nice filenames

>>73008873
So if I attempt suicide and accuse someone of torturing me for three nights, that's proof I'm not lying? I didn't "but your honor , I was so upset I almost killed myself" flew as evidence in the court

>>73008936
>and blaming it on Niji
So you’re just making shit up now?

>>73008909
apparently the narrative is solid enough to have destroyed Nijisanji EN's reputation, so the pressure is on them to get that back now. If they have evidence to save themselves, where is it? They're the only one with something to gain here. Doki's got sponsorships, viewers, and donations out the ass while Nijisanji EN's floundering.

>>73008916
Your evidence of Nijisanji being a liar literally comes from other people who may or not be trustworthy. And again, just because Doki showed you a positive side of her persona on the internet doesn't make her immune to lying. That's why I've been saying this whole thread, provide evidence.

This nijinigger is samefagging so hard
Maybe he should calm down by watching Elira's recent streams

>>73008936
>Didn't ask for song permissions
https://twitter.com/LilyPichu/status/1754736476762640409 Retard

>>73008936
She got permission directly from the original artist nigger

>>73008948
thanks

>>73008793
O I see, you have absolutely no fucking clue about gens and vtubing in general. Just a very bad shit poster that is winging it. Lol well I can educate someone with baby level intellect.
Gen mates are suppose to co-operate little one, that requires communication. This is a primary source of information (which means it's an authoritative take of the event) that can only be derailed if one of the three accused dispute it that they did keep Nina in the loop. Instead of ostracizing her from gen collabs/ exposure/ events. Their job as per say.
Did it get too technical for wittle baby?

>>73009004
Hey retard, we've been over this. Asking a twitch whore for permission over a tweet will not hold up in a court of law. You still have to get the proper paperwork, which i am assuming she didn't do. Cope.

>>73008994
He needs a bit of Vox and Kotoka for good measure.

i sure hope you're at least getting your 7.50 from nigggersajjer for this effort youre putting in, itd be embarrassing doing this for free

>>73008988
Nah, the point for that is long gone. Nijisanji's the one on the back foot here and it's up to them to fix the mess they've gotten themselves into by not shutting the fuck up and letting the woman graduate quietly.
Doki does not need to prove a single thing at this point, as she already has the public opinion on her side due to Nijisanji's easily observable lies.

>>73008916
>she was being fed the information through messages sent by someone else
The proof being in your ass because she didn't even know what they were reading. She took hours to respond because she ran to her lawyer to find out what actually happened because she didn't even know what was being read which is why Niji released that statement saying that they made sure no laws were broken despite rrats saying otherwise

>>73009043
>Gen mates are suppose to co-operate
Then why hasn't Kronii tweeted about Mumei for like a year? By your logic it's because she's a bully.

>>73009048
So Lily is lying then?

>>73009048
She didn't ask for permission over twitter. In fact, the manager's discord message didn't even talk about the song. Selen specifically asked them to check the e-mail to respond to the manager's perms request. You'd know this if you did any research at all.

>>73008879
Here sisters are reacting to being called out >>72999785,>>73001629
Here is where sisters start demanding evidence about Enna being a bully >>73006986 when the chain was talking about smear campaign. Please keep up or be less obvious

>>73009077
>I don't have to provide evidence for my claims because dramafags stirred up public sentiment for Doki
I accept your concession.

>>73009099
Hololive isn't Nijisanji that does obnoxious full gen collabs all the fucking time to milk their fan base. They are smarter at it.

>>73009048
>muh permission
She's the original artist she's not going to sue

>>73009077
>The person who is making the accusations doesn't need proof because they already have a mob at their side!
Are you sure you faggots aren't Twitter tourists?

>>73009048
>Asking the Person who made the Song for permission and them Coming out as saying they gave permsision is some how not getting permission for the song

>>73009125
>Reasons for termination are smear campaign
We've already been over this faggot

Instead of autistically spazzing out the fag could at least concisely say in 1-2 sentences what she did to warrant the BLACK treatment from Niji. He's just throwing shit at the wall to pray it sticks

>>73009048
She didn't ask her "over a tweet", SHE SAID THAT SELEN GOT PERMISSIONS FROM HER BACK IN AUGUST OF 2022

>>73009081
...Wait, are multi monitor setups not a thing in your country? Do you not understand the concept of windows or texting? Here in the west, our computers are powerful enough to run applications on two or more monitors. This is a common setup for streamers because they can have chat on a large vertical stream to keep track of without losing space on the main screen.

>>73009155
>>73009171
>N-no your Honor, I asked for permission over a tweet s-so it's ok
Fucking SEA sisters don't understand how actual court works.

>>73009156
>The person who is making the accusations
Is nijisanji, Not selen, Nijisanji made all the accusations, They need to provide the proof

please. this will not make money for you or your streamers, how about you watch them or go do some work so you can fund their sexcapades, you DESPERATELY need to bump numbers up for the Q4 report, and they dont cover defense posts on 4chan in financial reports

>>73009222
Proof she asked over a tweet?

>>73008994
>It isn't possible more than one person thinks I'm a faggot. They must be the same guy
Keep on munching on crayons, kid

>>73009156
>>73009140
I mean... yes? She has her reputation to give her credibility, and Nijisanji has ITS reputation to take theirs away. Nijisanji is completely untrustworthy and even its own messages they cherry picked for "proof" show blatant mismanagement and incompetence.

>>73007946
How about this example when some guy is nice to her and she just randomly tears into him and says nobody likes him:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTnDX__w9aE&t=18368
5:06:08 -- 5:12:30

This is a clear example of Enna being a bully

>>73009222
You haven't posted hand and outlet yet :^)

>>73009222
Source that permission was asked over a tweet? Surely you have evidence of this. it's not like we have the person who owns the song confirming they did in face give permission to use the song

>>73009222
>Repeating the same disproved lie again and again and again
She didn't "ask for permission over a tweet", SHE GOT PERMISSION BACK IN AUGUST 2022

>>73009222
You keep assuming it was purely by a tweet because that’s your only “argument”, even though you cannot prove that.

>>73009222
anon, don't even pretend you live in a country civilised enough to have laws, let alone copyright laws

>>73009245
Have you seen Nijisanji's numbers lately? I'm not even convinced 2 people still watch them.

>>73009228
Did we need to talk about this again? Do you faggots not read? Just because you didn't see the accusations before Nijisanji talked about them doesn't mean they don't exist. If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to see it, did the tree fall or not?

>>73009245
Can you actually do >>73009198 without resorting to blatant samefagging or are you just a threadshitter who doesn't even care about what he's saying

>invent your own "truth"
>repeat said "truth" to make it real
sasuga nijizhangs

>>73009189
Notice how the posts calls out how sisters START ASKING for evidence for Enna being a bullying in the chain about the letter being a smear campaign.
Or are you just blind?

>>73009314
Yes, that's literally how it works. The person who talks first has to explain themselves and prove that what they're saying isn't full of shit.
Selen says that she never would have said anything publicly if they hadn't dragged her through the mud on her way out, and so far she hasn't. Nijisanji said complete trash, and nobody believes them.

>>73009314
> Just because you didn't see the accusations before Nijisanji talked about them doesn't mean they don't exist
Yes actually, Because them saying selen accused them privately IS IN AND OF ITSELF AN ACCUSATION RETARD

>>73009335
The irony of a dookieturd saying this loool

>>73009236
>>73009264
>>73009271
>>73009273
>Hurr u don't have evidence it was over tweet
But I was just doing the same thing you guys were doing? Making up claims without evidence. The argument was that because Lilypichu said so it was ok. SAID so. She didn't say she signed an NDA.

>>73009253
Damn, I guess that guy wasn't a rapist because he did charity work. And that guy is actually a serial killer because he shoplifted one time. Everyone knows reputations definitely matter in court

>>73009414
So you can’t prove your vehement claim?

>>73009261
Kek. This cuck is still seething because his own ESL was exposed by not understanding a grammatically correct sentence.

>>73009414
what does an nda have to do with this, chink?

>RULES RULES RULES RULES RULES RULES
Corporate streaming was a massive fucking mistake

>>73009409
>bug tears

>>73009459
Bitch you can't even prove your claim kekekekekek
>Inb4 doki and lilypichu said so it iz true

>>73009414
She also never said she didn't sign an NDA. Your WHOLE argument is that permissions were asked for over tweets. There for it's on YOU to provide evidence to back up your claim.
You have proof of course right?

>>73009476
I posted mine though, It would shut me up instantly and you'd win the argument if you posted it but you won't because it'll prove my point kek

>>73009414
So because she specifically didn't say she signed an NDA I shouldn't believe her? Are you fucking retarded?

>>73009518
>makes shit up
>HA you can't prove it!

>>73009414
Lilypichu is the person who owns the song... jesus fucking christ, I don't see any tweets where she gave permission back in AUGUST OF 2022

>>73009414
NDA has nothing to do with copyright

>>73009478
>Artist crying about Niji not sending NDA
>SEA sister cries about NDA
Get your argument straight subhuman

>>73009361
>The person who talks first has to explain themselves and prove that what they're saying isn't full of shit.
Exactly and Selen talked first. Once again, just because you didn't see it doesn't mean it didn't happen. Glad you agree though
>>73009374
You faggots must be deprived of food and water for your brain to be this shriveled up. Saying someone accused you isn't an accusation, learn what accused means

>>73009520
>>73009533
>>73009535
>>73009541
>>73009556
>>73009559
>Hurr lilypichu say it on tweet so it iz duh true
Fucking retards.

>>73009565
>Artists
>post chain is about the song owner and copyright holder giving the okay
Which is is Sea sister?

>>73009590
>Accusing someone publicly of accusing you privately isn't an accusation
ok

>>73009518
>>73009601
Proof next thread? I do enjoy this timelooping, but it’s not exactly winning me over to the organs’ side.

>>73009601
Why would she lie you fucking retard? She gains nothing from lying

>>73009601
>>makes shit up
>>HA YOU CAN'T PROVE IT

This is literally like a supervillain rant

https://streamable.com/oq1cdc

>>73009601
>Lilypichu
Is the owner of the song, end of story, If you don't believe the copyright holder, You'll believe literally nobody and nothing, Keep sucking nijicock i guess retard

>>73009601
>I have no proof beyond going HURR SHE ONLY GOT PERMISSION IN A TWEET
concession accepted

>>73009646
catbox for archiving purposes

https://files.catbox.moe/sdszbb.mp4

>>73009590
>Selen talked first
Nijisanji released their termination letter before dokibird tweeted out anything about them you shit eating fucktard