/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Taco thoughts

Thoughts?

>>7296881
Reminder that this is the desired form if you wish to get with the chicken

>>7297344
>Kiara isn't even shilling for taco bell

>>7297943
or this but with nipples

>>7297943
Oh good, that's just a sample. I still have a chance then

We need a minecraft collab of ametori. That puzzle game their playing is pretty comfy but I want them to talk more instead of concentrating on puzzles and having to use push to talk.

>>7297344
KIARA TE AMO

I HATE THE CONTROLLER

>>7298501
So what should Kiara have in her eyes now instead of skulls? Looking glasses?

>>7297890
Cute birb

>>7295180
thoughts?

>>7298971
Bro you can already see the universe in her eyes.

Calli just sees the skulls because she's a giant tsun dork.

>>7299010
I'm excited. I can't wait to see Haachama and Kiara interact. Kiara acts very differently around Haachama than she does around most of her other senpais, so it should be good.

>>7299010
This is a Kiara thread. Kiara has talked like thrice about that meme review. Use screenshots of Kiara faggot.
>>7299252
Is all of this 3p I'm seeing new and based on recent events? If so damn these faggots work fast.

>>7299252
Mori looks like she's in pain

>>7299337
I noticed it too.
if I had known in advance, I would think that Kiara is a senpai and Haachama is Kohai in their relationships

>>7299337
there was genuine fear in her voice when she collabed and haachama ate that "soup" she cooked.

So this should be good.

>>7299975
Kiara is too tight.

Kiara is in Ame's stream chat again btw

>>7301125
I hope teamates aren't annoyed too much by that

>>7299010
Haachama is a stupid brat and her sense of humor is quite childish. Also, last time they did a collab Kiara bullied her, no?

>>7301125
Anyone got any pics of her messages?

>>7301224
She ENTER'd to give Ame a pickaxe then left.

>>7301916
What a stacy.

>>7301916
Based, but sad that she didn't do or say more.

So the recent Ametori explosion is because Amelia messaged Kiara when she was sad about her original songs and Cover around her birthday right?

>>7302248
As far as we know, yes.

>>7302248
Seems so.
It's worth mentioning that Kiara is pretty good at not taking people for granted, and sometimes that means she fixates on people to an extreme degree. When Jenma helped her, she kept gushing about what a wonderful manager she had.
Ame's been helping Kiara for months with tech stuff and being generally supportive. I think Kiara wants to make sure that Ame gets the kind of validation that she likes to receive.

>>7302248
I get the curious impression Ame is shifting closer towards the territory Pekora occupies for Kiara, despite being a genmate. With Mori, there's clearly respect for her passion, but a distinct feeling of a friend she'd shoot the shit with. In comparison, Kiara is approaching Ametori with a sense of apprehension and excitement, wanting to bridge the gap but slightly intimidated by the prospect.

>>7302986
That's a good point. It was pretty cute how Kiara kept wanting to impress Ame in their We Were Here collab.

>>7303617
>Guys help! I wanna impress Ame. With my brain. I wanna impress Ame. How do I impress Ame?! How do I do it?!

>Kiara is STILL watching and giving Ame Phoenixton tips in chat

7304035
but you wouldnt give the credit to already dead people for every new discovery. We dont give the nobel price to isaac newton every year, do we? The effort Ina put into making the iron and wool farm already get dwarfed by all the stuff that was created using it.

what the fuck kind of absolute faggotry is going on in the prechat

>>7304627
I only lurk it rn. Havent paid attention to whats going on and I think its irrelevant for the thread.

>>7304708
thanks for your contribution; please die

https://twitter.com/houshoumarine/status/1421319718946820100
This is so sweet, my heart...

>>7307960
very nice

>7k left
We're almost there. Do it before the stream. For Kiara. Only Kiara.

>>7304627
It's usually cancer.

>>7307960
What did she mean by this.

>>7307960
>>7309246
DeepL >>> GTL/BingTL

I'm proud of her.

Haven't watched the pre-recorded interview yet but will definitely buy a digital pc version

>>7310765
I can see her doing this. She is so cute when she is enthusiastic about something.

>>7310765
Seeing her looking so proud of her ambassadorial sash is just too adorable

Anyone find good Tiara fanart?

>>7311246
I was hoping for Tiara lewds, but I could only find a few, and none of it was actually fanart.

The reason why KFP is the smallest fanbase is because many of them get turned into nuggets.

>>7311246

>>7311246
Hashtag is filled with Pajeets for some reason

Are you doing your reps?

>>7313866
I'm manually searching sparks and scrolling till I find it each time.

>>7312809
You shouldn't know that

I feel a new wave of horny artist arrived throughout the last month.
That's nice because the old horny artists lowered their output a bit.

>>7314425
That tattoo has interesting implications…
Thinking about it, I can’t believe that I went from despising and pitying goslings to a breedposter in about 2 months.
So when does the Self improvement for my oshi phase start?

>>7314780
As soon as you start believing more.

Also I can understand not understanding goslings, it seems super weird at the least until it happens to you. Even now I think its weird when people gosling over the other genmates, but if I switch them with Kiara, I understand them.

>>7313866
1M views in 2-3 hours. Get ready.

Kiara is great at playing Sims, she should play more management game, like cities skyline or Tropico

>>7315630
Tropico would be great.

>>7315630
The first thing she did was cheat a bunch of money and everyone is constantly tired, hungry and stinky.
Not sure how great she actually is at Sims.

But she did quite well managing her limited money in Papers, Please! At least until she decided to kill off half her family, then her money got crazy high.

>>7315874
Oh sorry, i didn't mean the managing aspect, I meant more in the sense of keeping things very entertaining.

>>7315630
Tropico sure is funnny, but with all the politics and ideology I am sure that our resident schizos would twist Kiara's words into some hurtful rrats.

>>7315988
Ah, ok.
In that case I could totally see her vibe with Tropico. It has a funny tone as is and she could probably bounce off of that really well.
Not sure about City Skylines, it seems a bit too unpersonal for her to get really invested in it.

But just like FPS the difficulty will be to get her to actually try out those games.

>>7316446
I doubt anyone could believe our glorious leader is a brutal and cruel dictator. Long may she reign, democratically.

>>7316488
She'll sooner try out an FPS than a management simulator/citybuilder because the latter requires a lot of reading, which she doesn't really enjoy doing.

Okay, so what stops you from going to Dokomi and presenting an engagement ring to Kiara?

>>7317120
Lack of money and guts

Postan some clips.
https://streamable.com/zdoh6q
https://streamable.com/yjlxet
https://streamable.com/zdoh6q
https://streamable.com/ut4ah1
https://streamable.com/fuovc7
https://streamable.com/wjfp1f
https://streamable.com/wvint4
https://streamable.com/3v4f7d
https://streamable.com/4h3e51
https://streamable.com/lym5rf
https://streamable.com/r8pdsk
https://streamable.com/doqaty

Kiara looks way better in those photos she posted from 2017, she hit the wall hard and early too

>>7318056
https://streamable.com/4lissa
https://streamable.com/jadbfh
https://streamable.com/0bsp9o
https://streamable.com/lde7sl
https://streamable.com/0tu5k5
https://streamable.com/el9l43
https://streamable.com/fmt1t8

>>7318297
keekirikichama...

Delusional.

>>7318393
Most bait is.

>>7311246

>>7318056
>>7318345
https://streamable.com/96199l
https://streamable.com/4tpq4f
https://streamable.com/0ln7pe
https://streamable.com/thwjfw
Someone needs to reupload the "So what?" Art*mis clip, it's been taken down.

>>7317120
>engagement ring
She's already my wife. Can't marry her twice.

>>7318827
You sorta can, so go on and get another expensive ring for her to sell, faggot.

>>7317120
Jenma

>>7319049
I'd marry her too, no issue there.

>>7319096
It's not the same aty...

>>7319096
No girl wants a DD whore like you.

>>7319115
she's cute, so it's ok

I'll be marrying Kiara's ex-roomate, thank you.

an excellent choice, but check this out: i'm courting mama phoenix and plan to pop the question shortly

And I'll be marrying Smoothie.

>>7301153
>he doesn't know

>he doesn't care because it's been hours you faggot

>>7319309
Her sister seems like a cunt, though. And the type of bitch who exclaimes "You marry a family!"
Fuck you Chonkers, stop interrupting Kiara every five minutes! At least Smoothie knows only to show up when Kiara needs support...

>>7319456
I'll just introduce Chonkers to Taiga, have her marry into the Ookami family and from then on she's Mio's problem, not mine.

>>7319537
Based on literally girls managed by Jenma having or getting cats I am reasonably sure that Jenma is secretly Taiga

chonkers is a good kitty

>>7319649
Go prepare for your Holotalk Kiara

>>7319737
I have to wonder if Kiara's actually ever been accurately called out on this board.

>>7319649
Stop using Kiara's computer chonkers, you fat fuck

Sparks reached a million views!

1 Million Sparks Challenge completed!

Happy to hear Sparks reached 1M. This one earned a spot on my running playlist for the past weeks.

Your job isn't done yet.

Just noticed that Kiara moved her Holotalk 10 minutes. I hadn't noticed but even IRyS is streaming right now, so I guess she just narrowly avoided the fabled double mog.
Then again, IRyS would likelier get mogged by Holotalk than the other way around.

>>7320986
>>7321057
>>7321160
So what's our reward?

>>7321398
I would have expected IRyS to stop streaming for this - not because of Kiara but out of respect for her VvSinger senpai AZki... Guess not.
Honestly HoloTalk will probably have fewer viewers than IRyS' karaoke. A-Chan, Coco and to a lesser degree band-aid girl Matsuri brought in people but AZki is a literal who for grey names.

>>7321670
Holotalk isn't really the "event" it used to be. It's just a regular Kiara stream now.

>>7321655
You can watch the best MVs available on Youtube for free. They are all on Takanashi Kiara Ch. hololive-EN channel. Is that a good enough reward for you?

>>7321398
Calli's premier, HoloTalk w/ AZKi, Reine doing Duolingo and IRyS karaoke is a lot of overlapI guess this timeslot is popular because it's the morning US, afternoon EU, and before midnight in SEA/JP.

I've got an infestation of these chazwozzas in my house. What do?

>>7321983

>>7321983
Call the apex predator to exterminate them.

IRyS really is just gonna go into a superchat reading now huh.
Not even her kouhai cares about AZKi kek

>>7322103
But I hate apex

>>7321670
IRyS is doing superchat readings now

>>7322119
>>>>/wah/

>>7322144
IRyS superchat reading mogging AZKi interview in viewers is some delicious fucking irony but I can't be happy about it...

>>7322233
She's not mogging AZKi, she's mogging Kiara. If AZKi held a karaoke at the same time it would be quite different.

>>7322279
(you)

>>7322279
Whoever the fuck is hosting, it's an AZKi interview, and it's still ironic.
But wouldn't AZKi get mogged even harder if it was her video? Her views are usually pretty low.

Susan why u gotta target my chimkin

>>7322468
Not for events

I don't think we've ever talked about this before, but do (You) like redheads? That's far from the only reason I follow Kiara, but I must admit that her hair color is a big bonus for me.

>>7322877
I did not particularely like them before but Kiara made me like them a lot more.

>>7322877
Ehh, sorta? Like, actual red though, not orange.

AZKi is really cute so far, this is going to be a good episode, I can feel it.
>>7322877
I honestly have no preference (hot is hot no matter the hair color), but exotic hair colors are a weakness of me, so her teal gradient is what gets me the most.

>>7322877
Redheads with freckles and glasses and nice body is my kino.

>>7323151
So basically, gingers?
Freckles are overpowered though.

>>7323151
>>7323219
Too bad the "Kiara with freckles" trend was short lived and never really caught on.

>>7323219
>>7323246

>>7323382
It just doesn't feel right desu. If her eyes were green/blue it would feel a lot more natural.

>>7323382
They are a bit too dark. I think orange freckles fit her better.

Wasn't watching IRyS, did she ever mention AZKi or did she straight up just not know?

>>7323820
Know what? I know >we live in our KFP bubble but Holotalk isn't some amazing super-event that others shouldn't overlap with. It's not a birthday stream or a debut or whatever.

>>7323918
Know that her Singer senpai was in something.
It doens't have to be some special event but if she does a Superchat reading over it and doesn't mention it at all then I kinda feel like she just didn't know. Sounds like a thing worth noting.

>>7323998
IRyS retweeted AZKIs tweet that she'll be the next guest of Holotalk. She knew.

This interview is making me think is Kiara would've been better as a vsinger than a vtuber

>Kiara mentions taking care of herself since the age of 16.
I'm so conflicted on whether Mamatori is based or an absolute shitlord. She supports her kid but essentially had her fighting for her right to survive since 16.

This interview is making me think is Kiara would've been better as a vanalwhore than a vtuber

>>7324932
Not at all.
Just talking for hours is one of her strengths, streaming is an easy way for her to interact with fans and provide content at the same time.

>>7324957
I would never never never let my adolescent daughter travel to japan and enter the idol industry alone, it is unimaginable to me that she permitted that.

>>7325027
Just like your mom lmao

>>7324957
the truth is that there is no white or black personalities
no one is 100% based or 100% a piece of shit
She is just mama, nothing more nothing less

>>7325120
Yes Kiara is my mom. Time to pull a Chris-chan

>>7324932
Well according to her, that was her plan with premade videos and mostly focusing on producing music, but she likes streaming much more than she imagined initially so she shifted her focus and that's a good thing in my eyes. Streaming, as in creating an interactive and entertaining content, is her forte in EN.

>>7324957
Current Mamatori sounds based. Past Mamatori sounds extremely negligent. I would've clipped Kiara's wings the moment she started talking about becoming an idol, learning Japanese or similar BS like that. Even if that means that the Kiara we know today would've never known any sort of Internet fame.

>>7297890
LOVE

>>7325298
Anon learning a hard foreign language is like hte most productive thing young Kiara ever did.

>talk show
>performances
Will she now do a stand up segment? Orange women tells us why orange woman bad.

>>7325682
"What's the DEAL with orange women?"

>>7325682
Kek, that would be fun.
Sadly a lot of people would find it rude towards the guest, so there's no chance she'd implement it.

>>7325298
>I would have prevented Kiara from becoming independent and successful
Wow Anon great plan. With impeccable parenting instincts like that you should never breed.

>>7325907
"Good" parenting is often inversely proportional to success.

>>7325188
I dont think she ever said she was focused on music initially (but I remember when she said she planned on premade videos) but having a the title of "vsinger" also comes with a music label and much more support producing music than just being a regular vtuber I imagine.
Otherwise AZKi couldn't have released so many original songs, and IRyS an album right on her debut.

Just a request. Please stay here or in global to talk about the upcoming collab with chammers. Leave chammers thread alone, and
>we
haatons will stay out of this one. Thank you for considering.

>>7326032
>haachama thread
>can't talk about haachama
s-sugoi

>>7325722
What's the DEAL with the color orange? Why does it trigger so many people? I mean, it is just a color. When my girlfriend says she likes her coffee black, you don't see ME flying off the handle.
I think we need a new version of the black-and-white cookie that's half orange and half slimy yellow to symbolize the love between orange women and people of South East Asian descent. Get with the times, bakers of the world. Where are my orange-and-yellow cookies?

>>7326010
>I dont think she ever said she was focused on music initially
she said her streaming plans was a lot less hours per week

>>7326077
Yes but that isn't the same as being focused on releasing music

>>7313395
Reminds me of Shijo Takane from iM@s

>>7324932
I'm glad she wasn't. Her singing skills are nowhere near good enough for them to be her main thing, and while she enjoys making music, she makes her bank and fans on her personality any chatty-ness. I am very glad we didn't get vsinger Kiara and just because she's branching out doesn't not make her a streamer.

>>7326200
anon if her original plan was to do the bare minimum 3 hours a week where do you think the extra time would have been used for

>>7325298
Holy shit this. I love Kiara and she wouldn't be who she is if not for her trying to be an idol at 16 but I would not have let that shit fly unless I could at the very least be there with her. The entertainment industry is a beast that eats vulnerable people, I'm sure momatori meant well but damn was that a risky bet.

>>7322233
>IRyS superchat reading mogging AZKi interview in viewers
It didn't

>>7325907
The fact that Kiara somehow didn't have her entire life ruined by choosing to pursue childish dreams instead of living normally is a miracle. She lucked out and if things hadn't happened the way they did, I would've definitely held Mamatori responsible for not reining her in.

>>7326587
When he posted that is was 8k for IRyS and 7k for HoloTalk. Kiara gained 2k afterwards but it was still a bit lower than what I expected.
I would have liked 12k but I guess really not many people care for AZKi. Too bad, she's a cutie and a really amazing singer.

>>7326631
If the point is to make people care I think it worked, especially the performance. Cause now I'm checking out her playlist

>>7321655
Making our favorite phoenix very happy of course!

>>7326032
>We
will. The EGGs won't.

I have come to deliver.

>>7327107
Kiara's tree and sapling...

so did she say when exactly she was going to read superchats?

>>7327290
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-9SMEAMuig

>>7327317
thank you for helping the mentally feeble, anon

>>7326552
>>7326598
Why are you faggots so soft? Young people are supposed to pursue their childish dreams. The weak ones sink while the strong ones swim. It's called natural selection and you can't have a healthy society without it.

>>7326073
My sides
I would unironicly pay her for doing a stand up show

>>7318724
https://streamable.com/exudtz

>>7327107

>>7324957
>>7325078
My canon is that chimken informed her mother about her intentions to work in Japan and mother refused to let her go and permitted her travels. And after that Kiara said fuck you and went there on her own, so their relationships were rocky until Hololive.

>>7327535
That's fucking perfect

>>7326032
No one cares about you or any other braindead haachama fans, faggot.

>>7322877
Red heads yes, gingers no.

>>7327602
*Zuuush* No more mini-freezer for you egghead.

>>7327602
*Zaaash* Your ex took your house and no more pony porn for you.

>>7327535
Gooseling producer here, good shit man. That idea slipped my mind but it's genius. Maybe more people can add little details like this to the other ones I've made.

>>7327467
I don't want my 16 year old daughter to get taken advantage of by the idol industry.

When people told me to take risk as a teenager it was to do different things and even experience failure first hand, not to be raped by the entertainment industry.

Like if my kid was genuinely talented, I would at least be there by their side or have someone there with them that is a competent and responsible adult to be my proxy.

>>7326032
>Don't talk about Haachama in the Haachama thread?
As a Haaton and KFP, nani the fuck?
Maybe check for tarantulas in your cherrios anon.

>>7327535
I love Blade Runner 2049 so much but I'll always be reminded of the Hololive threads whenever I rewatch it now. Good thing I saw it back when it was brand-new.
Yes I know goslingposting is a thing outside of /vt/ and /jp/, but I don't really visit other boards.

>>7327645
>>7327726
*tips you with some goodboy points*
Have a nice day, good sirs!
Anyway, why is chimken on reddit review again? She has already participated in the last one.

>>7326705
I've been spamming take me to heaven since. its a really nice song. I hope if Kiara does another original, she does something slow and chill instead of her usually high energy stuff.

>>7327873
She called in to Haachama's cooking stream and Haachama asked her to be on the next shitpost review.

>>7327914
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98Yx9TuE09A

The forgotten song...

>>7327873
She asked hachama to be in Holotalk and hachama invited her for meme review.
https://youtu.be/ZgkBimQ0Jlc
Time is 01:04,35

>>7326631
At some point it was like 12k Vs. 7k and then 10k Vs. 8k or so, last time I checked IRyS was up by 3k but not sure how it ended up or at what rate people dropped off of the superchat reading.

>>7328313
She ended at something like 6k when HoloTalk was at 9k.

>>7327808
>I don't want my 16 year old daughter to get taken advantage of by the idol industry.
If your imaginary 16 year old daughter wants to enter the idol industry all by herself then she should be allowed to do it so she can learn about harsh reality and live with the consequences of her decisions. But no Anon, you'd shelter her like a faggot. Do you know how sheltered girls usually turn out? Bad. Real fucking bad.

>>7328574
>implying Kiara isn't carrying scars and emotional baggage right now that she wouldn't have to deal with if she just lived a normal life and learned about the "harsh reality" at a later age where she could process it better

>>7328574
It's not a binary there. You don't have to either be a tigerfaggot or just dump her into the wolves' den.
I'm sure anon would choose the most faggot-like answer though.

>>7328574
>if your 6 year old kid wants to climb the really tall scaffold with concrete ground under him then he should be allowed to do it so he can learn about gravity and live with the consequences of his decisions
The absolute state of incels

>>7328574
>let your daughter get raped
I would absolutely let them try at the entertainment bizz but they're not going through it alone. That would be irresponsible and as terrible as letting a toddler alone in a hot car.

Don't ever have kids, retard.

Kiara actually just read someone telling her to take her meds.

>>7328991
It said "pills" as she changed it to meds
SHE IS HERE

"Kiara lies about playing Tails of" schizo destroyed with facts and logic

Kiara is a whore

>>7329962
Typing this as my body disintegrates.
Though it was always about her lying about which games she's played, which I mantain, but won't bring up again because that' be too autistic even for me.

>>7330012
Shut up salad

Kiara living on the edge as always

I fucking kneel to chicken

HoloTalk guest - avg. / peak (rounded)

Marine - 52k / 57k
Fubuki - 32k / 35k
Shion - 21k / 25k
Subaru - 24k / 28k
Miko - 22k / 26k
Mel - 12k / 14k
Aki - 11k / 14k
Suisei - 17k / 20k
Roboco - 11k / 13k
A-Chan - / 26k
Coco - 31k / 34k
Matsuri - 15k / 18k
AZKi - 8k / 10k

>>7330622
Oof.
Surprised to see Roboco that low. I thought there was more general interest around her.

>>7330622
Oh, AZKi peaked at 10k? Nice.
You can really see how much the viewership is influenced by how well known a holo is.
Haachama will probably get more views again.

This SC reading is so fucking good.

>seeing AmeTori mentions in chat here and there when she talks about TakaMori
It's working

>>7330781
Yeah this is kino, people are fucking missing out, viewership is like 50% lower than most SC readings. Hope the kfpfucks not watching watch the VOD.

SHE'S HERE

>>7330622
That's a steady downwards trend.

>>7330983
She can't just exclusively bring in the bigger deals.

>>7330983
14k -> 20k -> 13k -> 26k -> 34k -> 18k -> 10k
What is steady about that? It is massively dependant on the guest which is not surprising.

I think moving the time also hurt it a bit.

>>7331194
A-Chan and Coco performed insanely well, though. And Matsuri honestly performed better than I would have thought, she has become a bit less visible recently thanks to her Apex addiction.
Only AZKi is below what I would have expected - but she is a literal who to most clipniggers after all.

People need to stop spreading rrats when there isn't a collab every fucking week. Kiara was being very polite the schizos

She's all for unity but they're still individuals with their own lives, commitments, interest and they all live in different timezones.

>>7331419
Based stream watcher.

Kiara's life is a whirlwind. I kind of miss how she used to go real deep with the real talk. Obviously there's only so much and some of the lines can't be crossed, but I really do miss that (currently) middle period where we were learning new Kiara history every other stream. She's still fun and I really enjoy her short series as well as her alternative stuff like Holotalk, but I still miss it.

>>7330786
DOWN WITH TAKAMORI!
ALL HAIL AMETORI!
ALL HAIL TAKOTORI!
FUCK CORPORATE SHIPS!

>>7332140
Her giving the details about the Tales of Talk fuck-up was great.
But I guess you mean stuff like when she talked about her family during Ryza streams and stuff?
I think we might get that again with Zelda, Yakuza took too much of her attention for long tangents like that.

>>7332140
What are you missing? Just this Holotalk, she touched upon some of her past if that's what you're referring to.
Also obviously she can't give us the Kiara history hour all the time not only because there's not that much left to tell, but also because the remainder would be obviously rule-breaking.

>>7332275
Probably right. I enjoy hearing about the young birb and her growth into the pretty phoenix she is now.

>>7332224
Wasn't Takamori an independant Kiara/Mori decision?

Aand there she goes

>>7332341
yeah, but people keep thinking cover forced to do it

>>7332466
great entertainment, but that shake is pure poison
3D cant come soon enough to save her from herself

I'm at a burger king currently, I think I see Kiara

>>7332613
she take the wrong train again?

>>7332613
Tell her about this thread onegai

ENTER MOMO

This is so fucking funny, I literally watched the Sound of Music VOD for the first time last night.

>>7332941
Oh yeah, that's the first time she did that.
I love it when she does shit like this.

>small
>normal hands
Spooky

I still can't believe one of you autistic fucks would send such a bad joke as superchat.

>>7334208
PC died for a bit, what autistic shit did she have to suffer through? It seems it was so bad it at least made her have to explain why she reads SCs.

Kiara is an angel, I love her

>>7334208
I doubt it's one of us, we're retarded but not THAT retarded
It's just some normie attentionwhore

Amechan kakkoi...

Ametorifags are fucking eating these days.

>>7334208
It was a fairly mean spirited one, something about, we took your advice about our son flying so we took him off life support and now they're gonna try to get their daughter into Hololive.
Kiara is to sensitive and to ESL to understand shit like that, plus its not funny.

>>7334287
She didn't read it out loud, but it was a dark joke about their son jumping off a roof to his death after hearing Kiara say he could fly. Kiara didn't pick up on the joke part and half-believes someone's son actually died. It visibly shocked her when she got it during the stream, to the point the person sent an apology SC.

I didn't think it was that bad a joke on its own, but it definitely wasn't something good to send to our ESL birb.

>>7334745
Didn't someone post a pic of it on the last thread? I thought it was kinda funny. Shame she took it seriously.

>>7334287
>>7334881

>>7334595

>>7334881
It should've been a bit clearer for the sake of Kiara

>>7334745
I feel like you should be able to grasp her ability to read tone if you're a regular watcher, so it's either a fairly new egg or just some random who sometimes tunes in.

>>7322877
Redheads are the superior choice

>>7335022
Nah, but her model is cute. You should know the best color.

>>7334325
looks like u were wrong seems it could have been any of these ppl lol

MY SWORD FOR KIARA!

>>7334960
Yeah, the guy clearly felt bad. Hope he sees the SC reading though, where Kiara tells him it's OK.

I hear the chimkin is goin on a bit of a tear. Give a qrd to a curious tako?

>>7335694
not sure what you mean by "a tear", she had a tangent on how if VSinger had been a thing when she and Mori applied she thinks they might've applied for that instead. Then she briefly mused on whether she would've applied to EN2 if she hadn't made it in and then started talking about ame time travelling before moving on.

>>7335694
it's one of her best SC readings in a while, so much to cover
started with the calling the cube stupid, Oreo shake RTA, rrat genocide yet again and now something about Vsinger.

>>7335846
aight

>>7335694
Don't trust /hlgg/ unless it comes to member content.
She just talked about HoloTalk with AZKi and that lead into IRyS and the difference between her making music and Kiara and Mori making music.
All she did was speculate that IRyS has less freedom but does not need to invest her own money into songs.
Lastly she thought that if she or Mori might have applied as a vsinger themself if it had been an option at the time.

>>7335864
>rrat genocide
My rrat >>7295375 survived the purge and I'm more convinced about it now than I was yesterday.

>>7335952
>ame singing duets with kiara to cheer herself up
>mentions several times across multiple karaoke about how she likes Kiara's singing
you know anon... you just might be on to something...

>nude beach tangent
Unexpected.

>>7336390
and earlier she was getting naked herself

>>7336390
Based Kiara trying to kill off the "le bottom left" meme

>>7336061
Ame was also the only one to check up on Kiara.
I remember a while ago Kiara mentioned no one checks up on her (she checks up on everyone).

Is Kiara trying to be funny or legitimately retarded? I really can't tell if she's trying to escape the "bottom left" image or not. Because every time she does it, she just reinforces it instead.
Can't she just say "I'm not a pervert" without any caveats?

>>7336877
Not really, she cant say anything straightforward because she tangents, so we end up with Coolsville Sucks clips

Someone goslinged too hard

Is her chat always this retarded? Are you guys also typing retarded things in there?

>>7337139
what happened I was in the bathroom, did I miss anything?

>>7337182
It's usually slightly less retarded
Although Kiara's reactions make it worse

>>7337182
Yes, it's YTC.
Yes, it's 4chan.

>>7337238
Love letter in a SC so embarrassing she couldn't even read everything out loud.

>>7337182
Only the same kind of retarded shit I post here.
...In hindsight that sounds really bad with the usual level of this place, but I swear it's not any weird gosling shit.

>>7335918
The concept of the Vsinger is something I don't understand. Why do you hire a singer and pay for her music, while you have talents like Mori, Suisei or Kiara under contract that are way more successful with their self produced music? Why not simply support them?!

>>7337485
>Kiara under contract that are way more successful with their self produced music
Anon...

>>7337485
Suisei was originally a vsinger under INNK Music along with AZKi and begged to be moved to the main branch of Hololive. It may not be as good of a deal as it seems when you're only looking at the bright side. AZKi having the lowest subscriber count in Holo JP and being a Vsinger aren't unrelated. She said herself in Holotalk that it's only because of Covid that she has time to stream at all.

>>7337485
More control about what they put out probably.

>>7337615
I don't know why people keep acting like Kiara would make it as a musician.We're not dumb, we understand that while she can be fun and poppy, she brings nothing to the table that isn't done better by other amateurs. The only song she's put out that I would actually listen to/like if I heard it outside of the context of my Oshi singing it is her Goodbye Declaration cover. Everything else is mediocre even when just comparing to other music in the same niche genre.

>>7337815
>unironic we
Speak for yourself nigga. Don't even bother posting another paragraph trying to justify your shitty opinion

>>7337983
Fine, I. Still doesn't change the fact that she has very little backing as a vsinger option.

>>7337815
I think Kiara's tastes are nerfing her, much like Nene. She would be a good addition to the team in events like Bloom, but her own music that's made according to her preferences with full creative freedom are just kind of boring.
Flare has a similar contrast when you compare her in 至上主義アドトラック or Stardust Song to her original. I don't think Smile & Go is bad, but definitely doesn't highlight her strengths nearly as much as either Beyond the Stage or Bloom did. She's one of their best performers, but someone just listening to her original would never bet on that.

Did she seriously get upset at people pointing out that she doesn't want to be known as bottom left yet she keeps doing bottom left things?

>"I don't want to be seen as bottom left!"
>proceeds to talk about lewd things on stream immediately afterwards
>chat tells her to maybe not do that if that's her goal
>"waaaaah I'm sad now"
She really doesn't take criticism well.

What the fuck was the air purifier thing about that had her shut up for a minute?

>>7338755
talking about how she wouldn't go to a nude beach and is embarrassed about being naked isn't bottom left.

Fuck yagaru and that stupid grey name and also the two dumb eggs in this thread.

"Sometimes I do dumb things that might people hate me."
"Like right now."
"Oh what do I do."
"You don't want to be reduced to being a pervert but you dare to breath!!!!"

>>7338825
It wasn't just that, she also talked about completely unnecessary details like "Yowza, I saw Mori's boobs even if they were covered"
I genuinely don't understand her goal. I want to believe that she doesn't want to be seen as "le bottom left chicken" anymore, but she keeps saying stuff like that which'll get clipped and then reinforce her image even more.

>>7338825
Still though that was nowhere near as bad as the chicken voice complaints that most people have. Of all the things to get upset about THAT was the one that did it?

I think she realized how little control she has over what her character is. Just like Subaru became a duck and couldn't really change her viewers mind about it.

>>7338901
>"You don't want to be reduced to being a pervert but you dare to breath!!!!"
You're a retard. Yagaru can be insufferable at times but at the very least he's one of the few people who's willing to say stuff that no one else in KFP will. And he had a point there, if Kiara doesn't want to be seen as bottom left then she has to stop acting like it.

>>7338940
You're an absolute retard and that was to serve her point about how she's embarrassed in hot springs. Even with someone she's as close with as Mori she's still embarrassed and would avert her eyes. Retards clipping things out of context is never her fault, blame the stupid clippers.

What the hell happened at the end?

>>7339033
>then she has to stop acting like it.
Dont think it is acting and thats probably were the problem is. She really is like this and wants to stay like it, but she doesnt want to be ONLY known for bottom leftness.

>>7339059
If she was truly embarrassed about this then she wouldn't bring it up, no? And also note her note when she said it. It was the tone of "hihihi, I caught a glimpse of her boobs out of the corner of my eye, hihihi". That's what triggered the response she got.

>>7339033
Shut the fuck up Yagaru, her "bottom leftness" is just her being more blunt. Kiara doesn't even rank in the top 3rd of hololive perverts, trying to spin her as being "bottom left" is only possible by ignoring context and not watching streams i.e. being a clipfag

>>7339061
Yagaru ruined it. His comment at 4:28:15 in the stream.

>>7339161
Meds.

>>7339061
I barged in and told her to stop talking to her simps and start sucking my dick, so she had to hurry up. She's always a little tsun until she gets in the mood.

>>7339061
She got upset because two people in chat pointed out how she doesn't want to be bottom left yet she keeps doing bottom left things. She was even looking for criticism during that part but got upset the moment someone brought up actual criticism

>>7339161
that's not at all how it came across to me. you suffer from the same thing many others do, you're projecting lewd intent on everything she says so even the mild stuff that she doesn't intend to be read that way still is.

>>7339033
This. And don't even pretend like Kiara isn't intentionally playing up the "bottom left" shit constantly. It's especially noticeable in collabs.

>>7339169
I'm literally talking about things that happened in this stream though. Literally in the same tangent (whose goal seemed to be "I need to set the record straight and tell normies from reddit that I'm not a bottom left pervert"), she went on to talk about stuff like nude beaches, Mori's boobs and other similar topics. How is that helping her case at all?

What I don't understand is why people get so pissy about this. Clip watchers are shit and get the Holo some exposure, but for the most part they do nothing unless they end up sticking around. If they watch more than 1 Kiara stream, they'll realize she's nothing like the clips portray, just like 90% of the other Holos.

>>7339033
He also tried to tell her that interrupting herself to tangent "ruins the flow" and people will hate her for it.
He did not have a point and was an asshole about it too boot.

>>7339294
Her whole point with those stories is that she got very shy in those situations and wasn't acting like a pervert.

>>7339294
>talking about a shitty reddit chart about nude beaches
>wtf why would she talk about nude beaches
please try rubbing your brain cells together, you might learn how to think

>>7339242
It's not projection, I've watched her for so long that her mischievous tone is unmistakable and if she wanted to put her foot down, she could've been at least slightly more serious about it. She had no right being upset at chat for basically sabotaging herself yet again.

>>7339294
>I don't want to be seen as a pervert so let me tell you how much I avoid nudity.

>Oh she mentioned that nudity exists, what a fucking pervert!

Why does this thread need so many meds right now?

Glad she saw Pekora for what she really was and dropped her. After she dropped the 'obsession' she really grew on me. It's funny because I used to be a big Pekora fan until she played that joke on Kiara during the server tour by having Moona come in unannounced. Was really rude in my opinion and Kiara didn't deserve it. Never meet your heroes indeed.

>>7339155
She needs to stop watching and caring about clips of herself and just keep being herself. Clip only people will continue to be clip only, those who check the stream and stay simply like her for everything. Marine isn't pulling crazy numbers every stream just by being horny, people will stay to watch her solve puzzles in Portal and call that little dude Amigo for 8 hours because she's genuinely funny. The people who will only know you because of clip memes don't care and will never care.

Clipniggers are retarded, that's all there is to it and she shouldn't change because of it.

>>7339502
You must be me. Based.

Sad this is distracting people. The entire rest of the stream was one of the best superchat zatsudans she's ever done.

Hey remember that time Takanashi "I don't want to be seen as a pervert" Kiara went like "TEEHEE CALLI I CAN SEE YOU UNDRESSING IN THE WINDOW REFLECTION"

>>7339317
It's because people like that still influence the content of the streams and the overall perception of Kiara as a streamer and a holo. I'm guessing that she wants to attract more people who follow her seriously rather than just expecting her to act a certain way just to entertain them.
Which is a good goal to have because there's only so much mileage you can get from "haha I'm lewd haha". What's far more interesting is her long-term goals, her music and her projects.

it's incredible that people don't understand the issue of flanderization. obviously she makes lewd comments or jokes, the issue is her tendency to do that is so greatly exaggerated that it's all some people see her as. asking her to change and completely remove an element of herself because other people are retards is a moronic "solution" that will just make her miserable

>>7339597
I do think the stream was fantastic but there's not much to talk about it other than "Kiara cute". Meanwhile the last few minutes offered some discussion material for her identity as a holo.
The underlying problem is that lots of people want Kiara to be many different things. For some, Kiara is one thing. For others, she's another.

>>7339597
I'm literally too tired to give a shit and this is gonna be replaced by another timeloop by tomorrow. No harm in exhausting it now since most people, including Kiara, will forget about it soon

>>7339665
But that's the thing, people get interested from clips, go watch the stream, then either actually get interested in her normal self or just drop/show up occasionally to her streams. This is the way it should be. It's just that certain Holo's will feed into it a little more just because it will hold the views. I don't know why people get so riled up about the little bit of teasing she does with her comments and then drops them. How can you enjoy 75% of the stream and then make it all about the last 25%?

Let's also not forget she has many streams where she gets a bit over-the-top bottom left at times (the sims ones for example). I love Kiara but she has a serious problem with taking constructive criticism. Or any criticism at all. And I blame a lot of you for it because she is coddled WAY too much to the point whe (I can be guilty of this at times) re any thing that isn't blind praise is not ok for her.

>>7339597
Yeah, I completely agree. She'll have fun in all her 3 streams tomorrow so I'm not too worried. We still got 6 great hours out of her today, I'm more than satisfied

>>7339597
I dare say this was the best zatsudan I've watched so far

>>7339620
so what I would have said the same thing and I dont consider myself a pervert

Either way she seriously can´t take well to criticism, even when she asks for it.
She got really bitchy at the end for no real reason.
>Eh ye Unarchived Karaoke tomorrow whatever I did not practice anything I dont care lala

>>7339794
That's now what she argued, she literally claimed that she wasn't a pervert and then came up with a million copes when people pointed out evidence to the contrary (ie. Sims streams)
It's fucking stupid and she needs to stop being such a baby.

>>7339857
yeah but if you try to wrap up something that might be valid with >>7339404 you need to understand that it's not going to go well

>>7339857
I think it is more about the tone the criticism takes, otherwise she seems to become very despondent to it immediately if she doesn't think you're on her side.

>>7340001
Which just so happens to be mixer comments and bottom-left feeding criticism.

>>7339857
>I love Kiara but she has a serious problem with taking constructive criticism. Or any criticism at all.
Unironically why I rage-dropped my membership months ago when I saw her reaction to the UNO collab criticism.

>>7339940
No one brought the mood down but herself. She asked for clarification, she got it, and then she went "Hmph! Whatever."
I think she was too tired at this point to be receptive to criticism. She tends to get a little irritable when she's tired.

>>7338681
It's been nearly a year and done to death. I can understand the frustration. Most of the holos say lewd things to some degree, yet are treated differently.
Look at Marine. She constantly talks about sexual things, but she's called horny, not perverted. Making the odd joke shouldn't permanently label you as a hentai. But of course, because less people watch her and because of clip culture, it's the only part of her people know and latch onto.
Be like if Ame reveals she's annoyed that she has a reputation of being a "salty gremlin" - but we all know that not her single defining personality trait.
EN/Kiara speaks English, so there's no need for viewers to compartmentalize her as one thing like "bottom left" in order to grasp her character, like they do with JPs.

>>7339013
Because she doesn't give a flying fuck about those. It's not the intensity of the complain, it's whether it's a topic she cares about or not.

>>7340316
And really doesn't want to hear it from long time fans.

>>7340255
>EN/Kiara speaks English, so there's no need for viewers to compartmentalize her as one thing like "bottom left" in order to grasp her character, like they do with JPs.
They don't, but when you say "viewers" you're talking about loyal KFP who watch her every stream (or at least close to every stream). I think the reason she brought up the bottom left topic was because she wanted to address her image from the outside, that being normies from reddit and YouTube who only watch clips. If you picked all the most popular clips of Kiara, watched them all and nothing else, then pretty much all you'll know about her is "Ah, so she's just the girl who keeps making sex-related jokes."

There's two seperate issues here, the redditfaggot who didn't watch her streams, and whether she sees herself as a pervert/lewd/bottomleft/whatever. Her autistic insecurity about nudity is one specific quirk she has due to social anxiety or some shit, but the latter can still apply despite this.

In regards to the first issue she has every right to be miffed about the clipnigger not knowing her reaction would be the complete opposite. But there's more to it than that. Based on her reaction it seems like she genuinely doesn't see herself as lewd, which is frankly just retarded.

If I had to speculate what was going through her mind, she probably thought the anecdotes about her nudity anxiety "proved" that she's not perverted. Then she got mad when nobody in chat bought it (for good reason) and even pointed out many instances where she did act perverted ie. Sims. She tried to cope with excuses and eventually just ragequit the conversation like a typical woman.

Same issue as last time a SC ruined her mood.
Long hours and she came down from her sugar high, so slightly cranky and tired.
She bulldozed right through the dead son SC earlier, but this time the stupid comment hit a nerve.
Still wish the idiots would read the room and save their so important criticism and cynical jokes for when it wont ruin such a fun time. The whole stream was one of her best ones right till the end.
Wont matter in a few hours, but its just sad to end on a low note.

>>7339583
They say the clippers bring in viewership, but they're wrong, teacher, the clippers are to blame.
A-Am I still retarded if I'm specifically a Kiara subber rather than a clipper? I just wanna spread Kiara highlights to my people I swear.

>>7340472
Rushia is a board
Subaru is a duck
Lamy is an alcoholic
Marine is horny
Ame is a salty Gremlin
The List goes on forever. Flanderization is part of hololive culture being reinforced by clippers and reddit. That is something she has to accept like the rest of them.

>>7339033
This is retarded. So Kiara can't even joke now? Everyone else can say all the stupid shit they want and Kiara cannot? Why is it that this should be taken at face value just because it is Kiara? Fuck you.

>>7340689
Duck is to Subaru what Chicken is to Kiara though.
And she doesn't have to be okay with EVERY shitty flanderized meme.

Welp looks like were gonna have rrats for awhile

>>7340580
Basically this. She's having identity worries again, which she has in the past.
She tried to be seiso and that wasn't her. She then pushed the bottom left thing but that wasn't her either. So now she doesn't really know who she is.
Her being ESL on top of that makes it hard for her to express her thoughts I think. If her English was better I feel like she'd be able to explain herself.

>>7340616
People shouldn't SC criticism, send it on twitter or in a letter or even a fucking comment on the vod. Don't disrupt the stream because your 200 character message flying by has just as likely a chance to have the opposite effect as it does to change something. At least in a vod comment you have more room to get across exactly what you mean without discarding nuance.

>>7339857
>And I blame a lot of you for it because she is coddled WAY too much to the point whe (I can be guilty of this at times) re any thing that isn't blind praise is not ok for her.
I dont think chat has the power to change her, so all you get from not coddling her is that her mental state will suffer, which will destroy her streams and make people leave for real.

I dont get what the problem with the few retards in chat is. Kiara is herself, but doesnt want to only be seen as bottom left. Thats a fair point by her. Then people criticise her, telling her she is at fault for the way people perceive her. So what do you faggots want her to do? Stop being herself? You want her to stop herself from telling us the stories she wants because muh it can hurt your image.

I think Kiara primarily wanted to vent about it and not actually hear criticism because the criticism all leads to stop acting bottom left aka stop being you.

>>7339502
>was a fan until she played that joke
literally me, was a serious cunt move

>>7340616
If it was Yagaru who did it, then my issue is not with what he was trying to say, but the ambiguous wording of his chats. He knows her well enough at this point, why simply not just tell her something like "Try not being bottom left so much" or whatever? You have to be direct about stuff like this with her or it goes over her head.

>>7340648
No you get a pass in my eye,
Translatiors are based prophets, translating the holy word into another language

>>7340849
> So what do you faggots want her to do? Stop being herself?
No, just stop bitching about perceptions she herself creates for fucks sake it's not that hard to grasp. Nobody dislikes her for being "bottom left", people just cringe when she tries to unironically argue that she isn't.

>>7340849
This exactly. Should Kiara stop the Sims streams? Should she stop her taking screenshots when a cute girl is on the screen in an RPG? Should she stop flirting with other girls? Obviously not. I dont know what the answer to stopping Bottom Left is, but it isnt becoming a nun

>>7340826
Well this time she was the one who asked for clarification and it wasn't from a SC. The topic originated from a regular chat and she was the one who chose to get the person to explain themselves. It devolved from there

>>7341026
Again, it shouldn't be an issue if your loyal chat occasionally jokes about bottom left, anyone who really wants to stick around will instantly see that she isn't 'bottom left' as her defining traits. Why she takes it so harshly when people joke about it in her chat from time to time confuses me, but she needs to relax.

>>7340968
>Nobody dislikes her for being "bottom left"
It's less about people disliking it and more about people wanting more out of her than simply bottom left jokes. And she has been delivering on that front very well lately, she just has to keep doing it.
She shot herself in the foot by simultaneously talking about how she doesn't want to be seen as bottom left while being bottom left at the same time.

>>7341134
If she had just said "I don't wanna be seen as just a pervert" or something nobody would have an issue but she seriously tried to argue that she ISN'T a pervert.

>>7340849
>primarily wanted to vent about it and not actually hear criticism
this. trying to fix something a women only wants to vent about is the worst thing one could do.

>>7340580
>she genuinely doesn't see herself as lewd, which is frankly just retarded.
no, it isnt retarded because she isnt lewd in my book.
t. another ESL german

Remove the emote and ban bottom left in chat simple as, if you dont want them to speak dont let them have a voice.

Most clipniggers only really clip her bottom left moments since those are guaranteed views and Kiara has a pretty small fanbase. It's really only the dedicated KFP clippers that clip her non-bottom left moments but they don't get much views.
All the other girls get their other sides clipped often because their larger fanbase actually watches those clips.
It doesn't help she has a severe case of ESL in a language where fucking everything can be used as an innuendo.

>>7341257
So this is just an issue of autistic guys (chat) trying to fix a problem that Kiara was bringing up instead of comforting her like she wanted?

Kek even the KFP discord is in flames over this shit

>>7341413
go back

>>7341413
It literally isn't. They shot the topic down immediately.
t. lurker

>>7341413
The break from timeloops was nice while it lasted

>>7341366
Dont even need to comfort her, just listen to it and move on.

Autists, I swear.
Just HAVE to have a serious discussion while everyone else is having a good time.
It's like the slightly drunk at a party going "man I suck at dancing today, teehee." and then getting "No, you always sucked at that. Here is a excel chart."
>But she asked
Maybe dont call her stupid and wrong right to her face in response, if you know she has issues.

>>7341026
I'd say this all sounds awfully familiar to Mori being saddled with the "dad" epithet. Both Kiara and Mori are given some shallow labels due to the way they naturally behave, whether or not they wish to accept that perception. Currently the most basic way to tackle this flanderization is to establish additional reputation/identities, such as how Mori is also known for her music/rapping. It's not as though they can't clamp down this behavior, though it would just take issuing a serious PSA and many a concernfagging threads/reddit posts, a whole lot of fracas.

>>7341307
It doesn't even get that much views anymore. Part of the reason Kiara's fanbase stagnated is because these retards only clip that and since people think they've already seen what Kiara does, they're not interested in seeing it again. This only makes it harder for her to find a new audience.

What's weird is that she often has a positive attitude in many ways. For instance, when she got banned, she turned it into a fun event. There are also several other times when she handled things in a "I just have to work through this and figure it out." way. But when it comes to criticism or when she feels she's been wronged, she gets really annoying and unreasonable. Maybe she doesn't realize how she comes off when she vents in English.

>>7341534
This anon gets it

>>7341468
Stop lying faggot they've been at it for almost an hour

>>7341489
Well we haven't had this particular timeloop in a very long while and it sure beats the chicken voice timeloop.
I would definitely like for Kiara to tone down the lewdness personally and I do actually think that she isn't as bottom left as people perceive her to be. I just think that when pressured to come up with jokes for entertainment purposes, her mind jumps to acting lewd often because that's not difficult to pull off, especially for someone who's watched the JP holos do this kind of thing before.

>>7340119
>her reaction to the UNO collab criticism.
An interesting moment to bring up, as she immediately changed her mind on the criticism after having time to think about it after calming down first and actually did address the main "issues". But also interesting because the entire situation was entirely overblown, as always.

>>7341691
She never changed her mind on anything retard

>>7341468
What is the new name of the chat where they discuss Kiara?

>>7341583
I come to 4chan to do this. No reason to go apeshit in her actual chat.
>>7341534
A little different, but point taken.

Let's not also discount the fact that 95% of chat and interactions she has on twitter is blind praise and bootlicking about everything she does, whereas the bottom left jokes mostly only pop up when she's in a bottom left situation. I think it should be clear to her by now that her loyal fanbase sees her as more than just bottom left. So "she just wants to be seen as more than just that" isn't true, and that wasn't the way she worded it either. She doesn't want to be called bottom right and genuinely thinks she's top right as she said. She's just being sensitive as usual forgetting all the ass-licking we do and zero-ing in on the most inconsequential bs. Love her but it can get a bit tiring feeling like you gotta walk on eggshells around her all the time and be ready to get on your knees and lick her boots at the drop of a hat because you never know when she could get upset by something.

>>7341625
It's only a greyname literal who faggot pushing it, probably you or one of the others in this thread who can't read the room.

Wasn't even that big a moment desu. Just sounds like you retards are mad about her calling your lazy joked out

>>7341767
>She doesn't want to be called bottom right and genuinely thinks she's top right as she said
I vaguely remember she was butthurt when she got placed into bottom left initially but she seemed to embrace it afterwards. Weird that she looped back to hating it.

>>7341767
She's the most feminine of all of EN for a reason. It comes with its ups and downs. I simp for her, but it blows me away at how much more people can simp for her than I can when it comes to shit like this. The waifu community had a lot of issues like this as well, not parallel, but somewhat intersecting. There was always the camp of "THIS CHARACTER IS PERFECT IN EVERY WHICH WAY" that I'd often argue with.

>>7341731
not that anon, but while it is true that she verbally never said she did anything wrong in the UNO collab, she did change her behavior according to the criticism.

>>7341767
>walk on eggshells
Come on man, I agree she didn't react the best way given the circumstances but this is the first time we've had a moment like this in ages. Give her some credit, she's come a long way.
I think the problem (apart from her being tired at that moment) is that she can't handle criticism from her most loyal fans very easily. She can't brush it off as blind hate because she knows these people take part in her streams every day.

>>7341489
She brought it on herself

>>7341767
God I want to lick her boots...

If she really got upset by the whole situation, she's will probably take harsh measures like what happened on the uno collab. The grey and that yagaru faggot could have worded it better she's sensitive with that shit.

>>7341921
She's not perfect but that's unironically part of what makes her interesting to me. And you know what, apart from a moment like this every now and then, she's been consistently killing it these last few months. So definitely a lot more ups than downs overall.

>>7341767
How can you be so fucking dumb? This isn't about regulars KFP, she is bothered that people who only know her through the memes have no actual idea of who she is and mischaracterize her. Its a valid complaint and she didn't forget anyone's love.

>>7342095
For sure. Even as someone who enjoys savioufagging and reveled in her depression arc, I really am glad she's had so much energy to get out of that hole once she got settled down in Australia and I think she's got the most varied content of EN. She continues to bust ass and it's just one of the many other things I love her for.
>>7342128
Why be bothered about a couple gray names who won't shut up about 'BOTTOM LEFT!'? Either they'll keep not getting what they want and leave, or they'll start to like you for who you are.

Jesus Christ this thread is literally unuseable.
I'm willing to bet she'll have forgotten her bad mood from the end by tomorrow's member stream. It's literally just the usual of being stressed out and retarded because she doesn't plan breaks for herself.

>>7341986
The only thing I noticed is that she become somewhat more quiet in collabs.
What pissed me off the most about her reaction was that even when she was willing to concede to criticisms she did in a "I GUESS I'll do it just so you guys will stop crying" way, not because she realized she did something like this.

She always acts like this, thinking she is right no matter what. Best example is when everyone complained about her holding the VOD hostage with superchat reading, something that is objectively just obnoxious (ZERO effort to just make it a seperate stream). And even there she just passive aggressively complied while blaming everyone for "crying". Now it's this bottom left drama is more of the same.

>>7342246
Because its her job and its her dream. She wants more people to get to know her, she wants to renovate her audience, she knows that this bubble she has right now won't last forever and she knows no one is interested in her because they all think she is a one note character.

>>7342301
>first time we've had some actual Kiara discussion in ages other than the usual timeloops
>"unuseable"
No what's unusuable is a thread with constant UOOOOOOOOOHHH spam like /hlgg/ is right now. This kind of talks is exactly what the split is for.

>>7342301
I want to comfort a strung out Kiara!
Yeah, it'll be old news in a day or two and that's fine. It's what we have to discuss today because it just happened you fucking dope.

>>7342354
You are retarded if you think this is the same thing. And she is indeed right today

>>7342301
She is probably currently cuddling her cats, hopefully eating a small snack and maybe, maybe crying a bit - and then she will watch the retarded cube thing, read HoloTalk feedback and be right as rain again.
It only feels like a big thing because she ended the stream all sad.
If it had happened 30 minutes earlier she would have recovered until the end of the stream as she is still as volatile as she was right after debut just with cat support to bounce back faster.

at least she's caught up with superchats. I'd hate for this shit to come up after days in a completely unrelated sc reading.

>>7340928
>>7339502
>>7339587
>They don't know about "444444444"

>>7342446
>kiara: hurr i don't act perverted
>chat: sims stream tho
>kiara: NOOOO THAT DOESN'T COUNT FUCK OFF CHAT
>"right"
In what dimension

>>7342383
Who the fuck are you talking about? People who regularly show up to the stream would probably only type out 'bottom-left' occasionally as a chiding joke. Anyone who sticks around long enough knows she isn't a one-note character. Hell, I think you'd see more people in the TakaMori camp looking at her as one-note than you would people who watch her for 'bottom left' stuff.

>>7342301
>Jesus Christ this thread is literally unuseable
Days with a useable Kiara thread: 0

>>7342301
nigger this is what these threads are for. Discussing a hot topic people want to discuss freely without a name attached to the comments.

>>7342301
It's quiet alright.
We managed to actually discuss the issue.

>>7342588
You fags whine about this shit every day, shitting up the threads just as much. I really don't know what you expect when you come to a thread talking about and discussing Kiara. Hell, at least this time it's in relation to the stream and not just one of the 4 things we fall back on for easy discussion and arguments.

>>7342480
Thing is she perked up even before ending the stream, so it wasn't even that bad. LFTT and a bunch of others send follow-up SCs that improved her mood again, and she even apologized afterwards for acting that way.
I think the reason we went into it so hard is because everyone has a horse in this race too. Like the chicken voice topic, everyone wants Kiara to be the "perfect Kiara" for them specifically. For instance, I would like to believe that she truly isn't as bottom left as she presents herself as and I prefer her other traits and sides. But maybe you don't agree and maybe that's part of the entertainment for you, and that's fine since we've had a lot of fun moments like that. The problem is that she doesn't want to be limited to one or the other, I would guess.

>>7342603
Not that I think this thread is bad right now but I'm pretty sure other oshi generals don't have negative talk ever.

>>7342480
I would say she's been far more resilient recently.
The issue is that her last break was last fucking monday since she had off-stream work to do this wednesday, and the recording of the Tales of Talk last Wednesday when she only had the TTRPG

>>7342708
Yeah, that's fucking terrible. If you can't talk about what you like/dislike about the person you're interested in watchingfucking, what's the fucking point of making a thread? To post the same 100-ish images over and over while saying "I LOVE KIARA!"?
Admittedly, it's fine to have all of these posts intermingle and it makes for a varied and more interesting thread. I need to get back to writing shitty shorts about dating/fucking Kiara.

>>7342708
morig has frequent shitstorms.
But i think only here has doomposter going "HER ENTIRE FANBASE IS DOOMED STAGNANT AND SHE'S GONNA BE HOMELESS IN 2 YEARS"

>>7342780
And she will have three streams tomorrow and then power through until Thursday because she feels bad about not streaming as much while stuck in German trains.
I hope Jenma sits her ass down and forces her to take a break on DoKomi weakend.

>>7342301
Your face is unuseable.

>>7342540
So should we say Moona is just a pervert because she does lewd jokes too? For fuck's sake, it isn't that hard to understand. Kiara never said she is not lewd sometimes, she saids she is not only that and that people have no idea who she actually is.
>>7342546
Oh my god, how come there are so many dumb motherfuckers in KFP? I am obviously talking about people who aren't regular watchers. Its about her potential watchers and how the community outside her niche views her.

>>7342826
>If you can't talk about what you like/dislike about the person you're interested in watchingfucking, what's the fucking point of making a thread?
This wouldn't be an issue if everyone else didn't already do it for us. We're the only ones who would even remotely defend her.

>>7342354
>passive aggressively complied
In other words, she addressed the issues. It doesn't matter how prideful she acts if ultimately she acquiesces, some people refuse to change no matter what. Kiara regularly adjusts herself to address criticism if it's actually constructive and useful. (which I don't think this is)

>>7342708
They do, but also don't have as many antis who slip in and pretend their rants about her being unstable are just as valid. Like it really isn't subtle especially blowing up the thread a while after it happened. Guess its cause orange woman bad threads have been failing lately.

>>7342843
Well not to be that guy but doomposting is more warranted with Kiara than it is with Mori. Not trying to encourage it or anything, but Mori is a successful musician. She won't be homeless anytime soon and the armies of deadbeats at her command will see to that. By contrast, Hololive is pretty much all that Kiara's got, so she has to think about what her long-term goals are going to be.

>>7342896
>Kiara never said she is not lewd sometimes, she saids she is not only that
Wrong, and this has been explained at length read the thread you dumb bitch.

>>7343020
Oh fuck you. I have watched the stream motherfucker.

>>7342540
>NOOOO THAT DOESN'T COUNT FUCK OFF CHAT
If you turned off your 4chan brain and listened to what she actually said you'd know she exaggerates those streams for the sake of entertainment, just like how she doesn't actually rage at Mario Kart when she plays off camera

>>7342843
Well that's just shitters looking to stir up drama constantly, because for whatever reason Kiara attracted a few hardcore garbage people and it became 'board culture' to shit on her . Usually it spirals into arguments and discussions as well, so I'm fine with it sometimes.
>>7342896
So you mean in the sense that clippers only clip bottom-right shit? They do that kind of shit for literally all of the Holos. Why the fuck do you think Gura has such a strong association with feet? Or that Ame is 'a rage gamer'/gremlin? The most basic of people aren't the kind of people who are going to stick around in the end. I guess I'm just autistic and gave all 5 of EN a chance and picked my favorite after seeing a few streams from each.
>>7342943
And we do, as is exemplified by people in this thread.