/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>72904170
No they keep bouncing off the ceiling which means the shorts are murdering their asses. There is pretty much no potential for a stock breakout unless they start putting out some insanely good earnings reports... they won't.

>>72904170
nice Gura deflection thread

>>72904170
>Is Cover going to be OK?
Yes. You guys aren't investors.

>>72904170
No now seethe

>>72904170
I wonder how low can it go?

>>72904170
I hope not.

>>72904170
nolol

>>72904471
>But what about Hololive!?

>>72904170
The stock of the first company I worked for looked like this when it went bankrupt. What's really funny is that middle managers kept telling us "everything is fine" and "we aren't investors, so we shouldn't speculate". Which is giving me a huge dejavu right now.

riku just need to fuck off asap and ride his yacht into the sunset.

Stocks ha vtuber content janai, jannysan tachi pls tell down :(

Thursday (4/4) trading begins in a little over 2 and a half hours.

I think they'll wait and see how the live event performs.
Were it to flop, I don't expect them to shut down EN entirely but they will certainly make big changes

Yes, even if it reaches 0 they don't spend money or pay anyone so they'll be able to continue doing nothing but yabbing.

>>72904170
Lol lmao. I hope NijishitEN gets dissolved. Then we can move on from this shitstain in vtubing history.

>>72904170
Nijisanji? Yes.
NijiEN specifically? No, probably not.
They’ve burned through too much community goodwill already, and their talents don’t know when to shut up and keep their heads down. Things are just going to keep getting worse until Riku has no choice but to restructure the entire branch; maybe he’ll fold them in with the remnants of ID and make ‘NijiGlobal’ or something, I dunno. Either way, their current business model is unsustainable in the EN market.

>>72904471
But Cover's stock isn't the one doing a 42% free dive though?

>>72907599
>Nijisanji? Yes.
We honestly don't know that. It depends on how they financed the repurchase of stock they did RIGHT BEFORE they tanked.

>>72904170
NijiEN will be vored by the main branch and Nijisanji will become like Vshojo

>>72907854
Niji as whole would be fine, even if Riku get kicked out of CEO position, which I very much doubt,it wouldn't be the first time for Anycolor

>>72904170
>Is NijiEN going to be OK?
what? you are talking about dead corpse that already burried?

>>72907854
The stock repurchase was in December/January, right before they fired Selen. The thing they did right the fuck before they tanked was opening up margin trading.
You are right about the first half though - how they got the funds for their little stunt might be "interesting," particularly to the Japanese SEC counterpart. It's mostly academic, though, since those banknotes have effectively been tossed into Minecraft lava, and the people responsible are too rich and important to be punished for it.

>>72908245
Wrong, there's no way Nijisanji will become good.

>>72907599
>Nijisanji? Yes.
They've lost #1 spot to Hololive and VSPO has a higher average CCV than them. NijiJP is just an year behind NijiEN.

>>72907854
As long as JP can just keep milking Chronoir/VALZ to death, they'll be fine

>>72909381
>VSPO has a higher average CCV than them
>average
yeah no shit, nijijp has too many 2 and 3views and that lowers their average compared to Vspo with it's 13? 15? members

only the most deranged schizos and tourist dramalovers will think that nijisanji as a whole will crash and razed to the ground after getting backlash from selen's drama. stock prices goes up and down, nijisanji has lost many talents in the last 12 months, wait until they debuts more people and see the stock goes up again when the investors see new talents that can generate money starts working and pumping out contents. nijisanji still has a tight relationship with hololive, even if the boss steps down and sells his corpo shareholdings, another rich japanese guy can just take over the company and keep the talents happy enough by letting them streams while earning cash in the progress. just dont break the rules like terminated talents do and you will be fine, the bullying accusations is ridiculous and baseless, selen was mentally unwell and clashed with management before her termination, but selen also wishes that nobody in nijisanji to be harassed and put on a stake.

>>72910019
Nijicope NijiEN will die.

>>72910019
good morning sis

TOTAL NIJIEN DEATH

>>72910019
does anyone have the stock data from around their latest flopped gen

>>72904471
You don't need to be an investor to know Niji's -700 was fucking bad news, raise your IQ nijifag.

>>72904170

>>72904170
Honestly who fucking knows, but most realistically, they will keep the branch open for the foreseeable future, as rejected and stagnant as it is, as some internal restructuring happens, and some organs graduate for no apparent reason in particular. The Western Vtuber sphere collectively demotes them to a piece of history, a lesson, that's still technically active with a few diehards and communities.
A wise man once told me things in business go out not with a bang, but a whimper... finance excluded.

>>72906627
Good reminder that management always takes the larger slice of the pie in an organisation for doing less and look out for the bigger payouts on solvency. Fuck the daily workers.

>>72910019
You are talking about JP logic that can't be applied to EN sister. Investors will see the business aspirations for future global expansion as a pile of shit promises. Nijisanji now has a potential growth cap on top of the EN branch getting called a Black company which is a stain unremovable.

ACCELERATE DOWNWARDS

13 minutes to showtime

How’s the newest Niji homo JP wave? Haven’t seen shit since debut

>>72904170
lol, lmao

>>72915916
Between the stock value tanking and that wave not having a Salome-tier or Luxiem-tier debut, the well of honeymoon-period management support has run dry. They've been thrown into the pile with the other 170+ JP talents (including Salome), and will languish in mediocrity until their graduation or termination.

>>72904170
How many of their members have not streamed since February?

Not even the lowest its ever been.
Stop talking about things you know nothing about.
Oh wait, that's this entire fucking board.

>>72904170

>>72916345
Just give it a sec

>>72916345
>The stock hasn't hit an all-time low yet
....weird flex, but okay

>+55(2.31%)
BUY BUY BUY BUY

>>72914677
if that same logic applies then holoid branch would be long gone even without gen 2 ever debuted, the id branch barely makes money and has low ccv rivalling holostars, but both branch are still alive and well because the two biggest are performing well, the jp in particular. same can be applied to nijisanji with jp branch and en branch being connected financially in the bigger scheme of things.
>>72916095
id branch only died out because the talents rejected renewals and left the scene, presumably burned out. i cant deny that management clashes didnt happen between the livers, but leaving nijisanji was their decision and not on the boss's hands, he cant force people that wants to exit to stay. thankfully the golden egg from the branch, hana macchia is still here. does not stream that much lately, but she is contracted for a long time still. definitely signed her renewal last year after her 3d model reveal.

>>72916345
>well, at least it isn’t at it’s lowest point
>ignoring how you got there to begin with
Your logic is truly captivating to witness.

>>72907854
I think Nijisanji proper will be fine because I don’t think they bought back 18 million USD worth of stock. IIRC the notice back in December simply stated that was the maximum amount worth of shares they could buy, in actually they allegedly bought 7.5 million USD worth of shares as of January 18. That lessens the damage by quite a bit, but it still puts NijiEN in the hot seat because their antics still cost their parent company quite a lot of investor money.
If Anycolor is going to display mercy, then the branch will just go through more of a soft rebrand to appeal to the Asia-English market, the Offkai incident showed that the Americas may no longer be possible. And again, that’s IF they want to show mercy at this rate.

Yes anon. When Niji's stock hit rock bottom, i'm going to buy it, liquidate every asset and close it.
Everyone wins

Even the Japanese on the Yahoo page are talking about Luca now kek

>>72906627
Niji is basically running on slaves, so probably a very low operating cost.
And that’s why it won’t die easily unless its reputation is destroyed in jp land or a massive lawsuit destroys their finances.

>>72918433
Based Mindset covered him yesterday and his streams have begun to pick up steam over on the JP side thanks to a JP chuba translating his streams and getting ~200k views on each of them.

>>72918730
Based japs ignoring dramatubers but paying attention to an actual lawyer.

The stock is back up a bit. Seems the meme traders are trying to keep the stock as close to 2434 JPY as possible.
Yup, definitely just the meme traders, and completely devoid of illegal stock manipulation.

>>72918730
QRD on what he said about it?

>>72919320
nijisanji will never die, not in a million years as long as the other jp corpos share close relationships with it. zaion did not win anything like her fans suggested besides a collab with fillian (thats pretty cool and all, but fillian has no presence in youtube, its twitch where her words and presence matter) and even dokibird has maintained her distance from nijisanji in a respectful manner.

>>72920056
NTA but he basically pointed out just how many times he broke contract and the blatant show of favoritism. He also floated the idea of the company being sexist because only the girls truly get punished in the branch (even Aster got away with harassing girls and the guy is the least popular guy in the branch).

>>72920056
tl;dr
>Luca broke the contract multiple times over to the point where a legitimate discrimination case could be done for both Sayu and Doki
>Showed proof of him being in a relationship with one of his mods only to completely abuse her
>Pointed out how a lot of what Luca said corroborated the gurrat

>>72920577
>He also floated the idea of the company being sexist because only the girls truly get punished in the branch
That's not even speculation at this point, people made Manjisanji jokes for good reason.

>>72920810
Ooh 1st point sounds interesting, 2nd one depends on whether he showed up something new. 3rd is just reading comprehension. Wish the streams weren't so long

>>72920577
Everyone is already aware of the Law of Manjisanji, but it is still worth noting.

>>72921087
He does his own clips which condense the info if you don't mind waiting for them.

>>72904471
keep coping, faggot. cover will surpass kurosanji next week

>>72921219
cover already surpassed kurosanji because cover stocks are literally pointless to them. they literally told investors to fuck off multiple times before and just let the wave ride where it goes since they don't need to rely on them.
for good reason too because at one investors meeting someone asked to reduce the wages of hololive talents only to be told no, and then told to be quiet for the rest of the meeting.

>>72921191
How long does he usually take to upload those?

>>72921373
unbelievably based

>>72904170
Ok, still worth more than hololive

>>72921383
A day or two if he's not busy with actual work.

>>72920546
>Filian has no presence on youtube
Her youtube channel has 2.5 million subs and her shorts regularly get hundreds of thousands of views. She may stream exclusively on twitch, but she absolutely has a significant presence on youtube.

>>72921373
The major difference is that Cover was forced to go public, they don't really care about the investors for the most part.
Anycolor was eager to go public and bent over backwards to make them happy and now its backfiring because the investors realized that Anycolor doesn't have a future so its become a meme stock now.

Damn, they really are trying to get the price to 2,434

>>72918553
There's basically two ways I think this turns out.

- Riku eventually repurchases the stock and takes Niji private (as the investors won't tolerate the company crashing to zero). Niji EN folds and JP continues to operate as a cash machine as it slowly withers on the vine. In 2-3 years, Riku liquidate.

- Riku sells his stock to an investor or group of investors. The investors are probably clueless and make sort of a bumbling effort to turn the IP around and it doesn't really work out. Niji stumbles along on autopilot and ends up being closed like Prism.

>>72904170
No....

>>72921582
I'll be on the lookout then

I just hope that when Niji implodes, it happens in such a way that Amamiya and Chigusa make it out with their models. They're cute and seem like good girls.

>>72921723
Nijidiot typically have a weak grasp on reality.

>>72921723
shorts are buffed by the youtube algorithm system, her subs are mostly subs gained from long time ago. she has little impact on the youtubing scene, twitch i give you. she is part of asmongold's team and he is massive. its a pretty good collab choice for sayu, maybe the rulebreaker can finally stops trying to drag niji alongside her into the mud and finally succeeds without resorting to have a mental breakdown about her rightful termination. dont be a sore loser all your life girl, you had a chance to succeed but you wasted it.

>>72904170
Yes

>>72925659

>>72921373
Mega Based
Fuck stocks faggots

>>72925755
The yacht was meant to be a submarine, all along.

>>72920810
I don't think Luca was in a relationship with Mizuchi. Just used her. More of the reason why she's doing what she's doing.

>>72925659
BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY

>>72921723
Shorts are fucking garbage, anon. Do you even watch her? She SAYS they're garbage.

>>72921373
>at one investors meeting someone asked to reduce the wages of hololive talents only to be told no, and then told to be quiet for the rest of the meeting
Source: my ass

>>72926365
Mizuchi explicitly stated she was.

>>72926646
hello newfriend

>>72926646
>The company could make more if it wasn't giving talents so much of their merch money
>rumao. We're not retards. We pay their worth.

>>72904170
Trust the process

>>72925123
>No impact
Funny, because some members of your company won awards at the award show Filian set up and organises.
I'm sorry Sayu lives rent free in your head sister.

>>72926646
There is a Twitter account that share the shareholder meeting QnA. There is a question from an investor asking why paying talents too much and using Anycolor as an example, and Yagoo respectfully told him that Cover is not Anycolor and go to next question

>>72926886
>still no source

>>72920810
There is no discrimination case. The guy is an employee that almost never caused management trouble, earns the company a lot of money and who's biggest fault is that he hired an assistant who was mad he wouldn't fuck her so she started talking about how his mom used to beat him to people online.

Meanwhile Selen would always verbally harass management, would sometimes bring her spats with management online, accused the company of harassment and threatened legal action. Sayu within the first three months became the most hated Nijimem because she made constant rape jokes in one of her streams while also causing a shit ton of internal issues within a single month. Trying to argue Niji is sexist is retarded. By that logic, shouldn't Finana, Scarle or Kotoka be fired by now?

>>72929097
>made constant rape jokes
You mean literally the one that she didn't even finish making? It's ok to be upset that Luca scammed you

>>72929653
No, I'm talking about the second one she made where she says "I think I'm more likely to get raped in here" then heads in that direction. She proceeds to allude to more rape jokes after the rapist reveal happens. It wasn't even one, the fact you're surprised people on Twitter hated her after that is hysterical

>>72920546
All companies can die what you need to look out for is their closest competitor. VSPO is at a turning point where companies would rather choose them to advertise. That's how Niji shrinks eventually leading to death if they become considered old who no one respects.

>>72926365
A woman doesn't do favours unless her needs are getting satisfied.

I hope not.

>>72904170
Depends on whether they can reach record highs on their Q4 report.

>>72920546
>>72930265
The old conglomerates like Sony and Nintendo might keep supporting JP if Riku keeps sucking their dicks, but it's hopeless for EN.

>>72930200
>she says "I think I'm more likely to get raped in here" then heads in that direction
Holy based

>>72918730
>JP chuba translating his streams and getting ~200k views on each of them.
That's kind of insane. What's the channel name?

Looks like riku called in some favors to get it to rebound, It's still just BARELY above where the breaker put it during the crash, We'll see if it keeps climbing up or not, I imagine it will bounce between 2300-2700 until Q4

>>72925123
She's doing much better than she would at Niji though, you should really do your research retardsister

>>72930200
Sounds like you should go back to Twitter then

For those who wanna say "WHAT ABOUT COVER'S STOCK" here are some points to keep in mind
>The yen is crashing and the entire entertainment industry in japan is suffering for it
>Yagoo has repeatedly told investors to fuck off when asked about increasing profits by cutting vtuber compensation and future investment
>Cover and Anycolor are pure growth stocks with no dividends so the only number that matters is whether or not it is higher than it was when entering the market
>Cover started at 1350 so being above that means it is doing good
>Anycolor started at 3200 so it being BELOW that means it is doing bad
Something something "what about goat metaphor"
>Farmer A starts his herd with 33 goats
>Farmer C starts his herd with 13 goats
>Farmer A after 2 years has 24 goats
>Farmer C after 1 year has 22 goats
>Farmer A lost 9 goats
>Farmer C gained 9 goats
>Farmer C is winning

>>72933548
I think I remember being told that Niji stock started out massively overpriced, not sure how that works.

>>72933786
Technically both cover and anycolor are both overvalued, They are speculated on more as Tech Companies instead of the Entertainment Companies they really are, Atleast in Cover's case they have projects like their app and HoloEarth to point at in terms of "tech" but anycolor has straight up nothing, Them being "overvalued" just means that the crash hurts them way way more because the buy in was higher

>>72932903
A 20 yen increase is not "calling in favors".

Can't wait to grudgepost you all and watch as you pretend that this board wasn't predicting that NijiEN would be liquified in April 2024

>>72904426
nice Lucacuck seethe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJobxCkMD_A

>>72907242
>ha
Anon...

>>72933786
What did this board looked like when it crashed from 5.8k Yen to 2.7k Yen?

>>72922493
- Riku shorted his own stock before causing the Selen fiasco, launching his company to the moon

>>72934684
Where Gura?

>>72935134
It was a fun time >>71420141

>>72935134
Chaos (in a good way)
The nijifujo cope tears were delicious.

>>72904170
I dont know much about the stock market but making money through shorting companies that are going through PR disasters sounds like the easiest thing ever
Why cant people just make programs that scrape corporate news headlines for garbagefires then automatically put shortsell orders into those stocks

>>72936813
>Why cant people just make programs that scrape corporate news headlines for garbagefires then automatically put shortsell orders into those stocks
A huge volume of existing trades are bots doing almost exactly what you described.

>>72937438
Oh.... well, are they doing well?

>>72929097
What's funny about this post is that you agree that he violated the contract multiple times in it.

>>72938826
If they were not doing well they wouldn't exist

>>72928002
filian is a nice person, thats why she doesnt mind organizing events for niji and even collabing with sayu so she can get some clout.
>>72933018
i have nothing against zaion and i was angry with her termination too but i also understand why niji made the tough decision. i wish her well and while it didnt work out at niji, maybe future is indeed brighter on the indie scene. and no, nijisanji still will not die in the nearest future. the top talents are still here with long term contracts, health issues is the only real problem. but they seem to be ok on that front.

>>72920546
calm down,say that again without crying

>>72941822
"that again without crying"

>>72941238
>i have nothing against zaion
>she is a sore loser who shouldn't drag down niji
Sounds like you sure have something against Zaion

>>72930200
>he fact you're surprised people on Twitter hated her
the fact you talk about twitter like some holy place telling how retarded you are

>>72928955
Tanigo-san is too wise.

>stonks buy back failed
>q3 week ask
>margin trading not going well

Depends on how much money they got on hand and if they meet q4 goals

I genuinely wonder how much money the latest gens they released bring in. The real concern for nijien should not be that they will be restructured (a vtuber costs so little beyond the model + rigging that that a small company like phase can keep 2 views for years), it should be that no good indies will leave what they have to eat shit under niji. Maybe if the relaxed their policy about being able to work outside nijisanji. It's wild that they actually told Ci Yu to drop his VA work and they expected him to say yes.

>>72934524
It's calling favors for someone who needs their stock to look good for every single day or week remaining before Q4 rolls out.

>>72934524
It is when the alternative is to hit a new 52-week low for the third consecutive trading day.

>>72935134
It was funny as fuck

>>72941822
i am calm, niji is still alive and well as of today. dramalovers was celebrating a hollow victory last month.
>>72942036
i believe sayu should move forward from her past life, its not helping her if she keeps bringing them up on stream. i remember the stream when she starts breaking down and crying, i think she mentioned about xsoleil members stabbing her in the back. i feel bad for her, but she should ignore the bad things and just be happy as an indie, no point in going in a state of breakdown over the past, she looks and sounds like a sore loser on that stream. i watched sayu's latest stream and she seems to be happy now with her new fans she gained from selen's drama and more importantly she seems to be in a good state mentally, im glad for her.

imagine being one of those fools who "bought the dip" at 3k

>all time low
BUY THE BOTTOM

did you fuckers learn nothing from the yotsuba exchange?

>>72916778
You realize that everything that the company does factors into company morale, right? They're looking at everything relevant to them, like KR folding, lack of support from managers, etc, etc... "He can't force people that want to exit to stay", is the most cope way of saying morale has been in the gutter for a long time. There's a huge gap between, "Some of our talents want to move on and do other things", and, "2/3 of this branch's talent have left in a very short time". There is a very obvious difference between, "Riku can't make people stay", and, "People are running away from the company." Nijisanji is the latter if that's not obvious. Good companies don't have this kind of turnover.

>>72916778
>thankfully the golden egg from the branch, hana macchia is still here
Dyrbi ? What she achieved is having most sub in current NijiID pool and 1st one (and possibly the only one) to have 3D. Other than that, she barely has views and virtually no members outside of ID gave a shit about her

The actual golden egg here was Mika who decided to branch out to get her name out there in Niji community, but the company treated her so badly that she gave up. Her leaving is already a final nail in the coffin for NijiID, and the rest who stay either have Stockholm Syndrome or they legit have nowhere else to go other than Anycolor like typical abusive marriage

>>72933548
Anycolor is a prime stock
Cover is a growth stock

Investors of both the companies are angry

>>72944840
Investors for Cover can go fuck themselves because they literally do not matter

>HOLOSEETHE

>>72904170
Kronii meltdown deflection thread

>>72944881
They do matter because where Yagoo wants to take Hololive he will need lots and lots of investment
Right now he doesnt but he cant rely on his profits to invest on new projects

RELEASE THE MERCH

>>72945768
>he cant rely on his profits to invest on new projects
That's exactly what he has been doing.
Unlike Anycolor that has nothing to show for their profits. A scuffed and cut AR is the best they can do for EN. And a mic for JP.

>>72906627
Reminder that while Enron burned it's top people paid themselves millions in compensation.

>>72904170
NijiEN will be fine. They have plenty of spineless meatshields (livers) to go around, and it's clear they've learned nothing from Selen's termination.

>>72942194
I don't care about her joke. The majority of people on Twitter are the type to hate edgy jokes though and rape jokes are some of the edgiest. It's even worse she's joking about high schooler characters being the one getting raped. Anyone that acts like it's unfair she was canceled online are fucking retarded. It's like putting on a Barney suit, saying nigger constantly and being surprised that parents hate you

>>72945959
>Hey boss, here's your 2%

>>72934617
Nobody said this. My expectation was and continues to be Niji EN is slowly wound down and gets merged at the end of 2024 or in the first three months of 2025.

Though if the Q4 numbers are horrible enough (50%+ revenue drop), I suppose Riku could wind down the branch earlier. It's not out of the question. It depends on how much money the concerts make since streaming income is probably close to zero with all their big streamers graduated or in hiding/suspended.

>>72949130
Still retarded. Can't wait to grudgepost in December if you're even still here

>>72949489
nijiseethe

If Anycolor is collapsing, how come Riku is able to afford a yacht lifestyle? Maybe you people don't know wtf you're talking about?

>>72949724
Shouldn't you be tending to your goats?

>>72949724
Paki-chan... please...

>>72949724
Why do you fucking inbred third worlders oshi a fucking trust fund baby and not any of the vtubers he exploits?, Why do you care more about the brand and the company than the vtubers themselves?, I will never understand why you fucktards are even /here/, You clearly don't care about vtubing

>>72950009
>"You clearly don't care about vtubing"
>Ruins the community through dramafagging

If you say so

>>72950183
>Dramafagging
The drama wouldn't exist if sisters would stop harassing and doxing and shitting up the board with their seethe and grudgeposts retard, And if niji themselves would stop being a cancer on the industry, You can put the blame squarely on them for the "dramafagging"

>>72950183
community is fine sis it's just your company that is getting ruined. but that's their own doing.

>>72950245
>harassing and doxing
Literally who? The only people getting harassed and doxxed are Nijis. Sayu's drama was a year ago. People are just blatantly digging up PLs to find dirt on Niji members while praying a dramafag will containment break. Dramafags will just shift the blame onto Nijifags even though you can easily check whether or not they are. Dramafags are the cancer, I will put the blame on the dramafags and not whatever dramafags want me to put the blame on

>>72950390
NIJISEETHE

>>72950390
listen retardedsisterchama,being DUMB is one thing,but doesnt mean you need to brag about how clueless and retarded you are,this is /vt/.not twitter,do your fuckng rep
dramafag EATING FUCKNG BUCKETS thanks to you,your retarded toxic fanbase and nijisanji,if there is ppl who should complain about drama is EVERYONE except you retard

>>72950183
>if you attempt to excise the tumor (Nijifags) from your hobby, you’ll ruin chuubas forever
No, I don’t believe that’s true.

>>72935316
Here
https://youtu.be/sdzbH7LX80w?t=3358

>>72950009
>any of the vtubers he exploits
Who is losing here?
The livers are nothing without the brand

>>72950390
>Literally who?
Matara's timestamper is the most recent example but not the only one

>>72950515
You dramafags are a broken record. The second someone recognizes you for the cancer you are, you just start crying about sisters. You faggots are the one making drama threads out of nothing, creating schizo rrats and containment breaking. Nijisanji didn't cause that, you cucks did. You are the cancer

>>72950599
Mind showing evidence he was doxxed or harassed without just making shit up?

>>72950580
>admitting to oshng the company over the organs
I thought this was mostly a meme, but I guess not.

>>72950604
Nijisanji made the strongest rrat of them all by playing Clue.

>>72910019
as long as doki is as popular and fresh in the mind of people nijisanji en will never actually recover
For them to do so they'd need to do or show something big enough that it'd energize existing fans but theres no such thing possible for nijisanji, like what are they going to do, debut new vtubers? lmao they already do that every other month, no one gives a shit about fresh meat anymore
Organize a tournament? Lmao nijisanji has one of the most toxic fanbases out there, everyones fanbase antis the other, if anything we have consistent proof that tournaments get much lower numbers than expected and that was even before half of the most popular unity members left or got terminated
have a concert? Lmao, not an idol company, best we can do is stitch together a concert that should've happened an entire year ago and got canceled with no refunds
Face it, MAYBE (if no one else big graduates) they won't crash and burn further, but how on earth do they recover back to previous heights? A company with no growth is no company at all, even if a wave goes down you need to be able to court new fanbases with your new debuts and niji is definitely unable to do that because they have not just the black company reputation now, making them toxic to normies (thats literally all they know about nijisanji lmao go on twitch at any point and check it out), but also everyone knows they just churn worthless livers every 2 seconds and don't support them whatsoever, who would care about third-rate products like that?

>>72950628
>just post the dox lol

>>72950628
>just post info that will get you banned
sister you're not smart

>>72918553
Is Nijisanji can be considered an MLM?

>>72950390
Sayu was doxed again last week, she brought it up during her ultra long stardew valley stream
Nijifaggots drove mano aloe to graduate and harassed her to the point she jumped off a building
Nijis keep victim blaming dokibird constantly, Going from accusing her of lying about attempting suicide, To saying she did it over nothing, To saying it was ""BPD""" to saying she deserved it for being a traitor, To calling her a grifter despite never once bringing her experiences with niji up on stream or making any kind of a big deal about it at all ever
Nijis constantly shitting on holos Including that one moderator who seethed at suisei, The ones /here/ constantly brigading with deflection threads about FWMC or Gura not streaming
Nijifaggots even harass their OWN fucking talents when they don't fall in line with their twittertard hysteria, Like scarle's starbucks stream or tone policing Bandage over and over for "not following the boycotts"

>>72950707
>doxxposts are the norm in the doxxsite
>Sisters assume it's the same everywhere else
Forgive them, old habits die hard it seems

>>72950646
>Lmao, not an idol company
Hey they can spin their 2D pngs on screen. That takes some masterful skills!

>>72950580
You have it the wrong way round retard
The BRAND is nothing without the Talents that BUILD the brand, Nobody would give a fuck about hololive if korone, Pekora, and Gura weren't a part of it and made it grow, The work the talents put into building that brand, Nobody would give a single fucking shit about Nijisanji if all the vtubers were talentless hacks with unwatchable streams, This is coming from a niji-anti by the way when i say that the talents they have in nijiJP are genuine entertainers who are very clearly good at what they do, And nijisanji would be NOTHING without them

>>72950690
You can post the message and reactions while editing out the doxx

Did something happen lately in Niji? The last time I saw the graphs, they were able to bounce back to around 2500+, that was well after the disastrous investor's meeting.

Now suddenly this week they are dipping heavily when nothing is actually happening from what I last heard.

I mean, PTS dropped after market closed today so...

>>72950822
They made the Silver Surfer a woman

>>72950794
Or you can lurk more and google shits instead of waiting to be spoonfed, you're not in nyfco retard

>>72950793
>Nobody would give a single fucking shit about Nijisanji if all the vtubers were talentless hacks with unwatchable streams
This is clearly not the case

>>72950822
death by a thousand shorts

>>72950822
Riku asked for some favors from Sony etc. to tide the bleeding.

>>72950822
Rosemi's 3D was a disaster

>>72950846
Oh fug

>>72950822
Anycolor is being targetted by antis driving investor sentiment.

>>72950896
>antis
If you suddenly found yourself losing money in the span of 3 months, I bet you would become "anti" too.

>>72950896
Right, it’s totally not their own actions or anything causing that.

>>72950867
Nowadays sure but don't forget they WERE the top dogs for a long ass time, Viewership has declined and people have moved on, Meanwhile hololive continues to grow year after year, Hololive had half as many streamed hours as nijisanji in march and yet they had over 8 million MORE hours watched, They had 1300 less total livestreams than niji in march, This is across every branch of holo compared to every branch of niji, The average CCV for hololive (including ID and Homos btw) Was 7.7k and the average for Niji was 2.8k

>>72950896
>Foreigners like to manipulate stocks like this

>>72950753
>Sayu was doxed again last week
Prove it and prove it was Nijifags. How the fuck do you even get doxxed twice? Isn't that just a repost?
>Nijifaggots drove mano aloe to graduate
Oh, so you're a Holofag memoryholing the fact unicorns doxxed her because she found out she had a picture with a guy on her roommate account.
>Scarle harassed by Nijifags
Surely it wasn't already proven that it was falseflagging dramafags desperate for drama. They did the same thing with Hex a week ago. Complaining about someone online isn't harassment, you baby. The actual harassment are people going on people's channels calling for blood or someone doxxing someone's home life for the sake of drama

>>72950955
>unicorns doxxed Aloe
Funny that those "unicorns" kept on bringing niji liver as the trigger huh.

>>72950859
So it didn't happen and you just made it up. Understandable

>>72950955
>Oh, so you're a Holofag memoryholing the fact unicorns doxxed her because she found out she had a picture with a guy on her roommate account.
Jesus Christ, Niggersanji is still trying to pretend Aloe was harassed for dildo sashimi and not her comments about how Ichikara fucked Chitose.

>>72950976
>Unicorns doxx someone
>Unicorns simply say it was Nijisisters
>Holofags believe it because "unicorn good"

Tale as old as time

>>72951026
>”unicorn good”
Yes
Next deflection

>>72950955
>nijiniggers rewriting history again

>>72951026
Nene doxed Aloe. Fuck off to where you came from, tourist.

>>72951026
Now why would unicorns doxxed Aloe for the reason you said instead of, I dunno, fucking Towa for instance?
Aloe hadn't been a week with holo, you think she suddenly got an army of unicorn schizos hounding her?

she's seething so bad

>>72951053
That would be the case if it wasn't already documented that unicorns were seething about her having a "boyfriend" and were spreading the picture everywhere. They were even concern fagging about her "tainting" the other members. You can pick and choose any video or article written at that time about it. This narrative of it being Nijisisters is clear cut blame shifting

>>72951024

>>72951174
>tainting the other member
>when the towa incident happened less than 2 months before
roru
rumao even

>>72950955
>How do you get doxed twice
She moved and changed her passport because of the first dox, She talked about it in her stardew valley stream, Same day she had her fillian collab, I won't spoonfeed you shit inbred
>Rewrites history blaming unicorns
kekaroo
>Rewrites history blaming falseflaggers
KEKADABBADOO

>>72951174
show proof

>>72951205
And apparently the proof of Sayu being doxxed again is so far up your ass, you can't share it and 0 dramafags decided to talk about it. Like I said, pick any video or article about Aloe. Look how little Nijisanji has to do with it. The only faggots trying to cover up their shit are holofags

>>72951174
Occam's razor, retard.
Nijifags
>like you
has history of attacking anyone that dared to talk shit about nijisanji, even if said person is a nijiliver themself.

>>72951266
>pick any video or article about Aloe
Post it.
You're going on and on about proof, why don't YOU post your supposed proof then?

>>72951266
>Zero dramafags decided to talk about it
God you sisters are so inbred it hurts, Literally all i had to do was googled "Sayu doxxed again" and this was the first fucking result
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRMip6KL0Jo

>>72951238
>>72951291
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2020-08-18/hololive-virtual-youtuber-mano-aloe-apologizes-for-leaking-live2d-model-before-debut/.163032

It's interesting how nobody besides Sayu complained about being harassed by fans including other Ex-Nijis. Sayu only catching shit for making rape jokes which Twitter caught wind of. Meanwhile Holofags start aping out about a member talking to a man

>>72951340
Stop spoonfeeding sisters, retard.

>>72951361
Huh funny that neither she nor the article hinted at the supposed "unicorns".

>>72951340
And not a single time in that video did she say she was doxxed again. Do you even look at the shit you post?

>>72951361
>a little addendum below about Mio's holocaust
>which has been proven beyond any reason of doubt started by nijinigger.
just a coincidence, I'm sure

>>72951463
>Aloe also addressed an incident where a man alleged by some viewers to be her boyfriend was harassed online. She stated that she cut ties with this person before her debut and asked viewers to refrain from messaging him. She also stated that her home has been receiving phone calls from strangers online and asked viewers to refrain from doing this also

Just close your eyes, unicornbro

>>72951361
>Complained about being harassed by fans including other Ex-Nijis
Matara has been pretty outspoken about having felt she and her fans weren't safe, And this was while SHE WAS STILL IN NIJI, She was fearful that nina cosplayers would be harassed at conventions or artists would be harassed for selling her merch, The fucking doxxsite sisters congregate in the NINA KOSAKA HATETHREAD for fucks sake, And while doki (obviously) isn't acknowledging the harassment she gets, You'd have to be blind not to see how much the sisters are shitting on her, With multiple docs made about how "uncredible" she is or calling her fat or a bpd grifter etc etc, Like fuck man you aren't fooling anyone

>>72951472
Timestamp 1:09
>Like there's something that's going on right now in the discord that i don't really like, and i'm taking it as a serious threat to my living location
You clearly didn't watch it

>>72951361
read the comments kek
>seems to be the big one based on the comments I read in Japanese. Nijisanji is much bigger than Cover Corp. I didn't realize this until this incident and the fans are extremely "passionate", to put it nicely. Basically "Aloe" said that Kudo Chitose retired because she was being stalked by fan.

In my opinion there's a few issues with the fanbase here. The big one being that they can't separate the character from the actress They also seem to refuse that someone among them MAY have done any wrong-doing. "Aloe" implied that she was/is friends with the woman who voiced Kudo Chitose. Her information is very likely from the source. She had no reason to lie about it to such a tiny audience. She had nothing to gain. But the Nijisanji fans that are posting on that video are saying things like "You didn't apologize for grave-stomping" and "I'll never forgive you for the lies/hoax you are spreading about Chitose!".

Nijisisters never change

>>72951553
The point is flying over your head, schizo. No one was harassed for shitting on Niji. The doxxsite basically made Nina's page their hub and not a single fag there shits on anyone besides Doki and Sayu. Doki also never mentioned any harassment done by fans, you're just making shit up now

>>72951578
Which isn't her saying she was doxxed again and the rest of the video is her talking about how people are autistic enough to think talking about her being doxxed is ok. You're the joke that keeps on going

>>72951361
>nobody besides Sayu complained about being harassed by fans including other Ex-Niji
One of the reasons Mysta left Niji was because he hated his dogshit fans. He had a dedicated schizo, Rebecca, hounding his ass for years even AFTER graduation (and sending hate supas to other Nijis like Kotoka) and had to personally tell her to screw off. Are you for real?

>>72951661
>Ignore the article and Aloe's words! Look at the comment section for it where random people online start blaming Nijisanji fans despite that never being in the article and Aloe never mentioning it

Unicorns are on defense mode

You fucks are slipping.

>thread about Niji
>derails into unicorn shit
hmm

>>72951515
So where is your proof they didn't harass both about talking shit about Niji organ?

>>72951677
>Our harassment and smear campaigns against doki aren't real because she doesn't give us inbreds attention
Roru, Rumao even
>No one was harassed for shitting on Niji
Nuxtaku, Khyo, Falseeyed, That Gator Lawyer,
Josuiji Shinri's RM, Mutahar, Cr1tikal, And literally everybody on that fucking blacklist that was made around the end of February
>You're just making shit up now
The fucking irony of this coming from a nijifaggot

>>72951807
where does it says it was unicorns only sis?

>>72951754
Even his dedicated schizo never shit on him for talking shit about Niji. If you're gonna bring her up, at least mention how she went full heel turn and turned into a Mysta hate channel before he even mentioned he was graduating. I feel like you faggots don't even read what you're replying to

Nijisanji lost because they alienated their unicorns

>school in SEA and China lets out
>nijifags suddenly start shitting up the thread
KEK

>>72951864
>Proof something that doesn't exist doesn't exist
There's also a tiny creature under your pillow that you can't see. Don't bother asking for evidence because you can't prove I'm wrong
>>72951880
>Blocklist = harassment
Tell me what happened as a result of that blocklist? Fucking nothing because it was just a list of people for sisters to block to avoid drama. Not a single person complained about being harassed because of the list, it's just a nothing burger faggots here found and decided to containment break over it. Funny because that would mean faggots little Khyo and False look in the doxxsite at all

>>72904170
To the moon. Buy the dip

>>72952021

So you don't have any proof that Aloe was harassed by Holo fans.

I will also add that relationship status on some of the Holos were already known. So there is also no reason to harass someone who just joined and have not built up a fanbase.

>>72951361
>Meanwhile Holofags
what about hololive? thread is about nijiEN,wanna deflect shit sister? not gonna happen

>>72952229
Yeah, if you ignore Aloe telling her viewers to not call her phone or harass the guy she was with along with the picture being spread online, there's no evidence Holofags harassed her
>>72952275
Holofags were the first one to bring up Aloe and blame Nijifags for it. The pot calls the kettle black

>>72952021
>Tell me what happened as a result of that blocklist?
funny shit happen,everyone laughing at you clown sister and ofc showing that you are the one who harrasing and attacking ppl,hell thats the fuckng list there,you dont even try to deny it,well even if you try everyone already know it,go hide in whatever cave you come from,because there is no place left where you can talk shit because everyone and their mother already know,hell even luca bullshit is out for public from non other than his sugarmommy who KEKED all of you lmao

>>72952343
>Yeah, if you ignore Aloe telling her anti which is nijifans
ftfy

>>72952343
>Holofags were the first one to bring up Aloe and blame Nijifags for it
because it is nijifags doing,listen retards,idk how the fuck retard like you can even find place like 4chan,vt with how fuckng clueless you are,everyone already know about that shit from back then

>>72951862
sisters sending out their best

>>72952448
>Aloe tells her viewers to stop harassing the guy in the photo and stop calling her phone
This is what the unicorn sees
>Aloe tells Nijifags to die.
Funniest shit

>>72952035
buy buy nijifag so we can laugh at all of you again later KEK

>>72952416
>>72952498
Least obvious schizo third worlder who's talking through a translator. I accept your concession

>>72952689
Stop projecting, pagpag sister

>>72952343
Are they harassing both about having boyfriend or talking shit about Niji liver?

You admit you don't have proof and all you can say is that both were harassed.

We already knew she was harassed since before joining Holo on what she said. Nijifans just took it as opportunity to step up the effort because of the renewed hatred of her being a Hololive member.

>>72952787
Pick up a textbook on grammar, read it then I'll grace you with a response

>>72952689
>Least obvious schizo third worlder who's talking through a translator
projecting much sister? i know this is SEA hours,no need to hide it,same shit with fwmc bait thread next from this using tagalog

>>72951744
So just because she didn't explicitly say she got doxxed, in your mind that means whatever threat she's dealing with now is ok? Unironically seek help

>>72952801
There is 0 evidence she was harassed by Niji fans. There is proof she was harassed by unicorns because she literally said so. Holofags are children so I don't expect them to follow a simple line of logic but this is funny

>>72951661
Not quite. “Aloe” was an underage girl rratposting a couple years before she ended up in Hololive. Not someone who had an inside source, but also not someone trying to intentionally mislead others. Either way, it’s still extremely petty of Nijifags to go after her for that.

>>72952871
>"She said she was doxxed again"
>Posts clip where she never mentions being doxxed again and it's just her unloading on people for bringing up her being doxxed at all
>"She didn't need to say it, I understood what she meant"

You're a delusional faggot better off in a white padded room

>>72952879
>There is 0 evidence she was harassed by Niji fans
just because you didnt know about that,doesnt mean it never happen nijifag,go do your rep,no one will spoonfed you and you be clueless retard forever no one cares lol

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>>72952879
Start reading

>>72948172
>I don't care about her joke
well you clearly cares,100%

>>72950539
Skinwalker Gura doesn't count.

>>72945959
ah 2020 where these nijifag think riku is some cool goofy ceo like yagoo KEK

>>72904471
Unlike Riku Yagoo has never put much thought on his company's value in the market though. Cover only goes public because some of his VCs want to get out.

what does stocks even do? do that shit even go to the livers pockets?

>>72916778
>id branch only died out because the talents rejected renewals and left the scene, presumably burned out
BURNED OUT? you cant get burned out when you have no project to begin with nijifag,reza already explain it that nijiID doesnt get shit,thats why they leave,they really gave no fuck to ID branch at all.

>>72953005
>Start reading
no you

>>72953106
No, Riku diverts money from the yacht fund to prop it up.

>>72952650
Unicucks on suicide watch

>>72953177
t. least obvious samefag

Kronii meltdown deflection thread.

>>72953106
>what does stocks even do
ironically the only thing that riku care about

>>72953215
Cope unicuck. Since you finally grew a pair refute the original anon who owned your unikek ass.

>>72953215
sister trying so hard that nobody give a fuck about them lol

>>72953300
What? Learn English Pajit

>>72953260
>actually replying to that
I’m not even the guy you were previously arguing with, thanks for admitting you were samefagging.

>>72953346
lmao

>>72953346
>refute the original anon
>hurr u admitted ur samefagging
What a fucking retard. No wonder you're not debating THE OTHER ANON. You're intellectually inferior to him.

>>72953346
>>72953384
>Samefagging while crying about samefagging

sister was so smug
>Aloe told her viewers
yeah retard, who else did you expect her to talk to in her stream?
not even worth a (you)

>>72921219
Saying this as a Holo had with minimal stock experience, I've been checking out the stocks of the two corpos the past couple of weeks and that seems unlikely. People keep making Niji's stock go up and down, which I assume decreases trust in the industry, so Holo's stock keeps going down too, because investors are retarded and don't realise Hololive is actually doing just fine.
I'm hoping it happens and I'd be happy to be proven wrong (just for the shitposting there'll be on the board), but I'm not expecting it to.

>>72953386
>refute
All you did was repeat your same canned response and pat yourself on the back for doing so.

>>72953421
Her viewers? I thought it was Nijifags? Kek. Intellectually inferior unicuck displaying his subhuman iq once again.

>>72953470
Unicuck's brain is so far gone he's not even trying to write proper English now.

>>72904170
negligible

>>72953417
>no u
You’re really seething about getting called out, aren’t you?

>>72953533
>Nijifag can’t understand basic English
Shocking.

>Aloe didn't go to the sister's discord to tell them to shut up so they're not responsible
that's your logic

>>72953543
Cope faggot unicuck. We don't like you.

>>72952650
>>72953215
>>72953260
>>72953346
>>72953384
>>72953386
>>72953417
>>72953470
>>72953533
>>72953543
ALL ME

are we in meltdown mode now?

>>72953596
>what is inspect element

>>72953586
Almost like they had nothing to do with it. By that retarded logic Joe Biden harassed Aloe since she didn't tell him to shut up.

>>72953631
sea hours mode,sit down and watch sea pagpag eater nijisister desperate attempt

>>72904170.

No, including Hololive.

>>72953635
Kekekek. Cope. Retard is seething.

she's too far gone

>>72906627
>Everything is fine
For "them"

>>72953759
No she's not. We can still save her.

>>72953704.

>>72953704
>but Hololive
what about hololive?

>>72953699
What the fuck are you even saying

>>72954012
It means seahours is when the nijisisters are most active due to them being in sea I guess, it was mentioned when people found out which countries made the targetlist for all who opposes nijisani

>>72953711
>got called out for one of the oldest tricks in the book
>accuses the other guy of seething
Cope.

>>72953896.

See the following post link below.

>>72953814.

>>72953438
As long as Cover is just just partial public, they are doing very very well regardless if their stocks go up and down.
Yagoo will never go full public.

>>72904170
Yeah, they'll be fine, 2386 is a decent number. That's 7 or 8 Finanas.

>>72954927
and? the thread is about nijiEN,no holo mention,no holo member there too

>>72956295.

>whiney face.

Who cares. I'm done here. lol.

Either way, both are not my problems.

>>72904170
No. It's really just a question of when the hammer is going to drop.
Will Anycolor try to make a move before the Q4 results are posted, to lessen the dreadful impact EN's numbers will have?
Or will they let it EN plod along, Q4 comes out, investors scatter like rats, and THEN they deal with EN?
There's actually one other option, which is that Riku has been preparing his golden parachute and he dips before Q4 gets posted, and in the chaos of a replacement CEO being brought in, EN gets to coast along as they were awhile longer. Probably the best case scenario for them. Maybe the best case for the company as a whole, because at least there'd be hope that a new CEO would try to actually support and invest in the talents across the company rather then the rich-get-richer model of only caring about the current cream at the top.

>>72904170
Can they just fold EN already so the obnoxious faggotsanji sisters finally fuck off to gookchan forever to jerk off over the vampire twink and his accessory

>>72952820
Ironic, even if trolling

>>72952011
What do they even achieve by seething /here/ every day with the same 3 topics? Do they really think they can defend their oshi kurosanji and win public opinions like that?

>>72904170
let's buy the dip