/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

# is dead

>>72836369
The post is pinned so it will stay up regardless and catch more of them like the honeytrap threads on this board and they are retarded enough to keep on fighting ghosts.

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holosongs.com/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

>>72836619
LAWLESSNESS KYATTO

>>72836327
Note that work friends can have better chemistry than actual friends. Penn and Teller and the Mythbusters duo are famous examples of “Work friends”.

Cover needs to get the Tempus2 3Ds over with so we can begin the hype cycle for Advent's. I'm ready for some more EN event streams

irregardless is a real word i just asked chatgpt

Okayu was the EU chuuba I wanted all along
Horny
Plays autism games
Nice voice that doesnt grate your ears
ASMRs

>>72836866
Tempoop 3Ds can wait, Advent 3Ds should come first

>>72836991
should, but won't

>>72836935
Show me the "EU chuuba I wanted all along" Euro supas

/#/ is a cunny general.

Toya just now reached 1m subs? I thought he was supposed to be the popular streamer type like Marine

>>72836991
you better sub to ReGLOSS because Advent won't get 3D until that's out of the way.

Kiara footjob

>>72836869
Irregardless is a non-standard version of regardless that the uneducated and unwashed willed into existence by creating a portmanteau of irrespective and regardless. It forced it's way into dictionaries (usually with the annotation that it's "nonstandard") because the hoi polloi refuse to stop using it in their whimsical vernacular speech.
It gets flagged as a misspelling by spellcheck as I write this, presumably because I use a better class for web browser for individuals with a college education.

>>72836890

Onwards to 200K

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaVIJw6Lcc0

>>72837122
based BASED BASED

>>72836743
>>72836813
Cute Wawa

>>72836743

>>72837021
yea

Management callously tells Kronii
>”your merch isn’t selling well enough, you need to shill it more. Why can’t you be more like Fauna? She went from the worst seller in your gen to one of the best”

Rate my rrat for why Kronii is passive aggressive towards Fauna but not overtly aggressive because deep down she knows it’s wrong to direct her anger towards Fauna.

>>72837298
Management wouldn't do that

>>72837156
Is this true /#/ chads?

>>72837298
kronii will kill herself soon if your rrat is true

wawa asking underboob cosplayers

How do people stand using twitter with the bot situation out of control?

>Kronii merch is the only thing schizo can babble anymore

Okayu's chat has a lot of EOPs all gray, are there so many Factorio autists?

>>72837357
yeah, kinda, that's why she narrated council teaser

Fauna is so lucky

Why there is 11k people watching a cat play factorio at almost 6am?

>>72836743
Kiara sex

>>72837364
Be more specific
she's asking HaneAme for a cosplay request in chat
>Dropped 3 Akas

>>72837166
I was observing those two vods today a bit, Minecraft finally took lead.

>>72837021

>>72837394
I just follow japanese cosplayers, japanese gravure idols and horny artists
Why would I care about the bots? I just look at the pictures, press like and get happy

>>72830513
>Youtube next action would be to pay adrev.
youtube will pay it but like the old embed exploit that you used to see in a lot of very sus sites as ads (especially in music videos by literal who rappers and pajeet videos) youtube will patch it since it will cause their avdertisers to sperg out

>>72837122
Why do need spellcheck?

>>72837430
I supposed it's the timezone. It's like 5am in JP while afternoon in the west.

>>72837325
Higher ups would. Kronii literally told a story about her beefing with a higher manager not that long ago.

>>72837298
Your rrat is wrong. Whenever you try to analyze anyone's relationship with Fauna, view it through the lens of sexual power dynamics and you'll see what's happening.
Basically, everyone wants to fuck Fauna, but what changes is how they want to fuck her (or be fucked by her). The sexual tension in HoloEN right now is taut, like a violin string, and it's all centered on the Kirin.

>>72837021

So, IRyS won last month, huh?

>>72837557
I believe it. Who's currently the most likely to get to fuck Fauna as of today?

>>72837513
>Why do need
kek

>>72837524
elaborate

>Okayu swearing because she forgot to bring a power pole
heh

>>72837394
>Implying any other site is different

>>72837298
I really think people (this one schizo) read way into one girl not being replied to or whatever on a single tweet, that’s something that can be easily explained (the tweeter missed it, forgot to reply, etc)
As for awkward collab interactions or lack of, they are people interacting with anime avatars, you can’t determine anything or you’re reading into nothing based on a fucking vrchat stream
You need a CONSISTENT timeline and evidence of this to have any substance. Pekomiko is a very good example of this, you could make an hour long video on the amount of times that’s been dodged

>>72837480
Fauna straight up too powerful

>>72837557
We though year of the kirin would be about her numbers, turns out it's just secondary to Fauna sexually dominating the entire EN branch.

>>72837640
he's a lying retard

Wait, did Kiara really just ask HaneAme for lewd cosplay on stream? Is this allowed?

>>72837557
Why choose? she can just go for the harem route and make everyone happy

What was the difference in numbers between IRyS and the highest NijiEN girl?

https://youtu.be/4lYGs4Boauc
New kino was dropped

>>72837635
Spellcheck needed

>>72837670
People were saying PekoMiko was baseless rrats for a long time. Some people just refuse to accept the evidence right in front of their faces

>>72837795
But how is this going to fit The Hololive Narrative? Will Mori make music for this shit?

>>72837795
haha her entire personality is metal gear

>>72837708
No I’m fucking not. Watch streams.
>>72837640
Kronii told a story about how she went full Karen mode on a higher manager because she felt they were treating her personal manager unfairly. It was the stream where she also revealed that talents have way more power/sway in the company than personal managers.

>Sony nuked both prism and verse (with verse joining vee)
>Increased their shares in anycolor
huh

>>72837795
Does she like any other games?

>>72837430
Kinda, yeah. Not a billion, but enough to stop and watch a girl be cute and and having fun with it.

>>72837899
Always bet against Sony.

>>72837899
Wait when did the nuke VerseN?

>>72837899
they love to lose

>>72837557
This post is correct

Why would Okayu want a rocket launcher?
How does shooting rockets help with building factories?

>>72837798
cute koyo!!!

>>72837670
Pekomiko objectively do not like each other, but both of them are professionals. That’s a terrible example to bring up.

>>72837934
hours ago
sheep said that versen will be joining vee

>>72837899
>sony likes merge failing branches together
ruh roh nijicn

[Sad News] Okayu realized she has fucked up hard

Adding the data for March

>>72837934
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt_8eyfJHKU

>>72837954
she likes her factories bug-free

>>72837986
>anon fell for the retarded rrats

>Mumei at 1.05 million
Will she pass any of the NijiJPs above a million anytime soon?

>>72838027
in a more general sense, it looks like it's still an increase

>>72837871
so she was defending her manager, that has nothing to do with management comparing talents to other talents like your original statement
>but kronii talked back
you're a retard if you think kronii, one of the smaller talents, is the only one to have done this. Kiara literally pulled the "im gonna graduate if you dont give me what I want" card

>ogayun is mogging chimken on her timeslots

>>72838024
elaborate, all I understand is cute japanese noises

https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1774958136073560226/photo/1
Just look at the amount of men in the Bettel and Hakka panel....

Yagoo is regretting his decision to use HoloStars to get female viewers

>>72838072
Including pippa makes things ridiculous

>>72837298
How did your rrat even exist without at least one irl scenario like Koyo-Lui

>>72838088
You just need more autism anon, thankfully she has fixed it

>>72838024
why are cats so dumb?

>>72838024
I still dont know how to handle liquids, might watch her stream later as a tutorial video

>>72838093
Why do they all have their penlights out, was it a karaoke?

For those who missed last thread, here is for this month's USUAL TABLES, starting with the
>TRUE AVERAGE AND MEDIAN OF PEAKS, MARCH 2024, KAIGAI ONLY
table.

Some comments
1) IRyS finishes the month as #1 for the median of peaks (and #2 for the average) capping an exceptional month also marked by reaching her 1M milestone!
2) Fauna and Mumei finishes as #2 and #3 for the median followed by Bijou, with the three of them (in different positions) completing the top 4 in both tables
3) Fuwamoco, Dokibird, Nerissa, Ina, Kronii, Kobo and Mori complete the top 10 in both tables, in different orders
4) The "Kiara Line" held strong in both tables with no Niji girl (and no one but Dokibird) beating her in either table, and with Bae in both tables and Shiori in the average trailing her on the EN side
5) A sort of "Pippa-Kaela" secondary line formed keeping anyone but the above mentioned from crossing their marks
6) The brazilian Toshi and the Indonesian Harry Caine finished (in both tables, in different orders) ahead of every male vtuber in this table showing a shift in markets for this niche of vtubing
7) Octavio finished as the lowest ranked holostar in the median table and Aster once again finished as the lowest ranked NijiEN
8) Reine as the lowest ranked HoloID girl in both tables
9) Phase had 11 channels over 1k+ in the median but, out of those, only four with a 1k+ average, still a very good performance for a minor company

and the punchline
10) Below the Holo girls a mass of minor corpos are increasingly encroaching into what should be NijiEN turf with the Brazilians from NeoBaka, the Thais from the Algorhythm Project and the indonesians from AKA Virtual getting an increasingly bigger share of the mid table positions while the girls from Phase, from The Box and from the Meridian Project doing likewise in the girls side.

>>72837644
Most sites aren't as bad, yes

tell me about el fato gato
why does she play the factorio

>>72837670
Kronii and Fauna is a recent development though so there simply isn’t enough evidence to do an expose on it like Pekomiko. But Kronii blatantly ignoring Fauna’s reply on the sick tweet unlike every other Holo that replied is the kind of evidence that at least warrants starting to think about the fact that “hmm maybe there is something more than just accidental ignorance on Kronii’s part that she hasn’t interacted with Fauna, or any Fauna related content on Twitter in any capacity for months now”

>>72838093
or viewers in general

* FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *
>04/02 TALLY:
17,536: Shiori (Hololive) | Biboo Is Missing (Overcooked 2 Collab w/ Advent)
14,327: Fauna (Hololive) | minecraft_monday.wmv
13,655: Matara (VShojo) | Podcast Announcement w/ Mint
10,624: IRyS (Hololive) | Shinkansen 0
8,190: Baelz (Hololive) | Unarchived Karaoke
8,156: Kronii (Hololive) | Shorts Zatsudan
6,348: Dokibird (Indie) | The Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog

>EN GOLDS FOR MARCH 2024
1) Kiara (Hololive) - 17,995 - Easter Collab Special
2) Shiori (Hololive) - 17,536 - Biboo Is Missing (Overcooked 2 Collab w/ Advent)

>PER COMPANY
2x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
1x: Kiara, Shiori

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
5p: Kiara, Shiori
3p: Fauna, Mumei
1p: Bijou, Matara

>False retweeted Luca/Wilson/Uki tweets that caused drama
I'm guessing he's gonna drop something soon?

>>72837394
The bots can be ignored. The annoying faggot humans are the worst part of twitter

>>72838248
She has l'autism

>>72837899
>Increased their shares in anycolor
huh?

>>72838093
>zoomed in photo for the stars

kek

Final count for Luna is 1550 days to 1M.

>>72838290
They all talk on discord. Don't read into Twitter interactions.

>>72838114
>she went down
Huh, unexpected
I do at least consider it fortunate that Tenma and Shiina are leading the non-Pippa rungs, because from what I've seen of the two, they're the ones best equipped to take the company In a good direction if the rabbit ever leaves.

[Sad News] Okayu is ending despite only just getting started with the session

>>72838199
Only interesting things this month are how much will Doki fall and will Pippa hold the line.

>>72838065
Not anytime soon. Next JP above Hoshikawa is Mito at 1.19m

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>>72838393
thats what the japs are saying

> RASPBERRY GOLDS FOR MARCH 2024
01) Remilia (Phase) - 378 - Zatsudan
02) Kunai (NijiEN) - 376 - Ratopia Pt 2
03) Ver (NijiEN) - 390 - Master Duel
04) Aster (NijiEN) - 386 - LoL
05) Octavio (StarsEN) - 399 - FF16
06) Kunai (NijiEN) - 319 - Keep talking and nobody explodes
07) Aia (NijiEN) - 324 - Zatsudan
08) Kunai (NijiEN) - 364 - Terraria
09) Remilia (Phase) - 228 - OW2
10) Aia (NijiEN) - 345 - Zatsudan
11) Kunai (NijiEN) - 348 - Terraria
12) Maria (NijiEN) - 629 - Dream House Days
13) Aster (NijiEN) - 357 - LoL
14) Remilia (Phase) - 329 - Japanese practice
15) Aia (NijiEN) - 201 - Doom 2016
16) Remilia (Phase) - 237 - Zatsudan
17) Aster (NijiEN) - 326 - LoL
18) Aster (NijiEN) - 329 - LoL
19) Rie (Phase) - 282 - Lobotomy corp
20) Aia (NijiEN) - 273 - White Day Stream
21) Bandage (NijiEN) - 189 - Rumble
22) Aster (NijiEN) - 413 - LoL
23) Aster (NijiEN) - 280 - LoL
24) Aster (NijiEN) - 246 - LoL
25) Octavio (StarsEN) - 367 - FF7 Rebirth
26) Bandage (NijiEN) - 395 - Arcsine
27) Kunai (NijiEN) - 345 - EN Zatsu
28) Aia (NijiEN) - 242 - Baldur's Gate 3
29) Flayon (StarsEN) - 543 - Drawing stream
30) Kunai (NijiEN) - 328 - Chilla's Parasocial
31) Erina (Phase) - Spyro Dragons Tier List Stream

> PER COMPANY
22x: NijiEN
6x: Phase
3x: StarsEN

> PER STREAMER
7x: Aster
6x: Kunai
5x: Aia
4x: Remilia
2x: Bandage, Octavio
1x: Ver, Maria, Rie, Flayon, Erina

Previous Month
February: >>70305904

The Kronii rrat is that she's in Korea right now dealing with extended family bullshit. That's why her stream was so weird.

>stays up until 6 playing factorio
she's just like me fr fr

>>72838093
>photo from first sector
that's what 100 person? because you know second was already half empty if they took the shot from that angle

>PLN at more than twice the EUR

>>72838093
Why would a MAN oshi another MAN for an idol?
They know there are cute girls in the sister agency, right?

>>72837871
>higher manager
it was a staff, not a higher manager

Does VerseN being merged count as a small corpo death for the purposes of bingo

>>72838640
poland loves trains due to their history during ww2

>>72838600
>22x: NijiEN
Even more lopsided than before!

>>72838600
what is it about kunai?

>>72838640
HoloPL and HoloKR still more viable. Heck HoloJP is even more viable in these dead hours.

>>72838600
>Erina having no number on the 31st
Su-GOI
>NijiEN blowing everyone the fuck out
Maybe we need to start including Michi and the other JP, Non- "Phase JP" girls

>>72838715
And that's WITH Phase EN in play btw.

How is Gura above Kobo in Spotify numbers? Was Lullaby really that popular?

>>72838657
you can count it but that would be cheating since people who follow them knew that this day was coming since the prism announcement

>>72838657
Actually, yes! it was not actually a "SONY branch" but a proper company mostly unconnected from SONY

>>72838423
Doesn’t explain why she interacts with every other genmate on Twitter plenty of times in the last month, especially her bestie IRyS. It’s one thing to ghost somebody for a while because they didn’t force your hand like Mumei, but Fauna outright replied to her sick tweet and got no response. Even Shiori got a like but not a reply. It just doesn’t make any sense to not at least like the tweet even if you’re chatting with her in discord.

>>72838771
Mori's Q and Marine's Shinkaro count to Gura's listens

>>72838600
> 31) Erina (Phase) - 388 - Spyro Dragons Tier List Stream
forgot number

>>72838818
sasuga leech shark

>>72838657
eh, no talents are stopping and it just means SMEJ takes full control of VERSEn instead of partial control

>>72838818
but thats not how it works in spotify?

Grimchads, we are eating good tonight. The background image is perfect.

>>72838795
>especially her bestie IRyS.
It's always been funny to me how Kronies see it that way when its always seemed like they're more "Friends at Functions" than "close." If that makes sense.
Like, they click together, but IRyS seeks out Bae, Mori, even the other Promise girls more than her. And then there's the obvious dark elf thing going on.

>>72838909
Ina... isn't cooking...

>>72838536
So riku had some strings pulled after yesterday's disastrously bad crash?, Figures, Sony can only prop it up for so long though, And i bet they'll regret it when Q4 rolls around

>>72838909
I like Ina but F/SR is boring as shit to watch.

Have you guys never felt uncomfortable how the "camera" comes from the PC's screen, not from slightly above like a webcam?
I have been watching streamers since early twitch thanks to LoL pro-players and it always catches me kinda weird when I'm watching a vtuber and the camera is so frontal

>>72838909
>Esoteric Fate game
>Musou on top of that
It's so fucked

>>72838974
Sony will buy Anycolor from Riku

>>72839014
I've never really thought of that. I guess some PCs may build the camera in on the bottom of the display?

>>72838795
Is this like when saplings go schizo, because Fauna doesn't heart their comments? It's not a big deal anon.

>>72838795
Just don't think too much about it, at least for now while there isn't enough evidence yet. Not like there is much point in keeping KroFau alive.

>>72838974
>after yesterday's disastrously bad crash?
Did it? I missed that

Okayu just finished at 8 hours and 15 minutes...

>>72839030
When she started the game, I was interested because I thought it would be cool samurai JRPG... It isn't.

>>72838967
That’s besides the point. Kronii reciprocates interactions with literally any other Holo on Twitter that initiates an interaction EXCEPT Fauna. I can not stress enough that nobody has brought forth a valid interpretation to that disputes the fact that Kronii seems to dislike Fauna.

>>72838600
>22x: NijiEN

>>72838027
>>72838072
Phase is now a raid corpo.

>>72839144
>over eight hours to finish
Girls really are built different when it comes to finishing, huh

>>72836743
why is this sub 5k shitter the OP image

>>72839086
I’m not one of those schizos.

>>72838967
They were online friends from before hololive anon. Also, Kronii has by far the most 1-on-1 collabs with IRyS.

>>72838771
Maybe, there was a lot of "movement" starting 2024, and Lullaby has 700k+ listens on spotify which is close to what the MV got on youtube (850k+).

>>72839175
Suisei didnt respond to Shiori wishing her a happy birthday. definitely some bad blood right there me thinks

>>72836866
Cover should put the 2.5M goal for all gens of all branches, adjust for amount of members if you want.

>>72838027
how many more weeks before we get picrel from refugees?

>>72838816
>>72838990
Why are KFP like this?

Jwu what's the yab

>>72839307
fans reflect the streamer

>>72839014
>the "camera" comes from the PC's screen
>>72839079
>some PCs may build the camera in on the bottom of the display?
The camera is actually standalone, if you pay attention to where Okayu (and the rest of the vtubers) are usually looking when they're reading comments, it's to the right implying the main monitor and the camera are not in the same plane.
It could be a setup like pic related

>>72839312
I almost missed my physical therapy because of traffic from the rain but I did end up making it

>>72839312
advent got new outfits already and people are upset

>>72839285
Dishonest argument.

>>72839312
>what's the yab
Some Hololive girl had one more Twitter contact with another Hololive girl than the other Hololive girl.

>Nijisanji fans attacking and spamming Dogura because he was talking about how good cover treated them
JP Nijifags have increasingly been more hostile in the open lately I wonder if this has anything to do with the whole Nijisanji being the laughing stock of the west affecting them.

>>72839285
That's not even remotely comparable and you know it.

>>72838895
What? That is literally how it works on spotify

>>72839290
I don't think that's likely because at the time, NijiEN postured hard into the "family" angle.
Phase is just, they're fucking not like that with each other. Some girls are close and none are really like, unfriendly to each other, but they don't pretend to be close if they aren't.

>>72839307
It's not that deep KFP bro

>>72839235
Sex

So what do I do now that Okayu stream is over?

>>72839119
It crashed down back to the price where it hit the circuit breaker iirc

>>72839428
>>72839456
she responded to Nerissa, she responded to fuwamoco, yet she completely ignored Shiori. Why'd she single her out?

To be very honest, this thread is boring without Niji drama....
>Holo vs Holo for numbers is not fun
I will come back when there is a niji drama

>>72839638
You can fuck off in both scenarios

>>72839638
WE'RE SHEDDING THE DRAMA TOURISTS, BOYS, POP SOME BOTTLES

>>72839606
Loop https://youtu.be/UDY9uIHTWGw
It's almost 100k

>>72839290
I love these grudge posts, Niji just can’t stop taking the L

>>72839673
okay sister will do

>>72838305
I'm happy she finally did it.

>Taylor Swift is now officially a billionaire
What can a Vtuber learn from her to achieve that level of success?

>>72839638
You can always do a little bit of Holo vs Holo numbers horseracing. If tourists get upset, they can fuck off.

>>72839735
fuck a football player and vote democrat

>>72839761
>t. Tourist retard

>>72839689
anon, you dont care about normal numbers, you too love drama. Dont lie

>>72839088
I’m not totally committed to the theory that Kronii has some weird deep seated dislike of Fauna, I’m a reasonable man. I just think there is enough out there to suggest that it is in fact worth considering and keeping in mind when observing future interactions.

>>72839761
>literally trying to get a tourist to stay by citing how you don't have to care about tourists

Kronii said the CIA is after her and I believe it.

>>72839735
I think the answer is... Pretty much nothing. I guess you can be a mediocre white girl and hope for good luck. Or actually do something.

>>72839445
Like they even need a reason, they'll attack people just because even if they've got no ongoing yabs.

>>72838027
Until Phase can get 2-3 people regularly over the 2k mark they will still be behind NijiEN.

>>72839811
Ah yes
The American dream

>>72839816
literally two weeks ago you guys also tried to push the Kronii and Mumei dont like each other narrative until getting proven wrong in a single stream

>>72839882
Not true!
There's one other path that can end with Phase getting bigger than NijiEN!
If they hold here and just wait a few more months, they may just become bigger that way

>>72839793
>>72839849
Does this image make your feelings hurt?

>>72839735
Be born rich with industry connections.

>>72837021
Yes

Ooh yeah she lost audience.
Even a debuff stream for Enna should be 1.6k-1.8k or so. Sub-1.5k is something that isn't supposed to happen for her.

The problem with flare is that shes too damn gorgeous

>>72839973
It makes me think you're not as good at this as you think you are.

>>72838305
>1) Kiara (Hololive) - 17,995
>2) Shiori (Hololive) - 17,536
Neat

>>72839916
Not every anonymous poster is the same person.

>>72840002
At what? Would it make your diapers warmer if I'd add some Niji numbers to it?

>>72839638
>To be very honest, this thread is boring without Niji drama
You might be in luck since Raziel has hinted that she has made a lot of copies of niijs discord discussions when she had access to it through lucas account and given time and enough harassment from the sisters she might actually release it

>>72838600
>22x: NijiEN
Well... anons were right about it not being competitive if you added Phase to the raspberry, but I don't think anyone saw this coming

>>72838305
Were getting Gura tier numbers without Gura

>>72838600
It's fucking unfair how they keep shitting out powerhouses in this tally.

>>72840052
you sure sound just as retarded as that other anonymous poster

Checking the cosplay videos so you don't have to and .... yeah .... Holo was not REALLY well represented in that Anime Las Vegas con.
I'm not one to be knocking down an ethnic cosplayer just because it doesn't match the character but this Gura .... not world class

>>72840070
False has all the logs as well iirc

>>72839979
I thought HItman was a buff game

>>72839073
>Sony will buy Anycolor from Riku
I kind of believe this could happen now, or at least part of their roster.

>>72840061
Try again

>>72840198
It's not TERRIBLE, but she definitely got a cheap hoodie

>>72840208
I don't think so but it's not a debuff game or anything. Actually it's something her fans have been requesting she plays

>>72837456
UNPROTECTED SEX WITH MUMEI.

>>72840204
nah False only has the logs for the recent drama and doesnt have everything Raziel has which she is probably keeping as a sort of samson option against nijisanji

>>72840070
Sauce?

What happens to your brain when you spend too much time in #

>>72840256
>but she definitely got a cheap hoodie
Yeah, that's the bulk of my criticism, 100% "Alibaba bought" and the cheapest tail too.

>>72840222
Ogey.

>>72840134
Eh, we were getting those after Advent debuts and for a few months after
Nowadays the box is 100% "Gura without Gura" levels if comparing to 2022, but it isn't on the same juice it was during Advent Honeymoon.

>>72840213
ohh yeah, lets buy a company which has 200 most boring vtubers in the world with the fanbase that cancels you over eating at MacD

Great strategy

>>72839993
she's way too awkward.

>>72840325
Nah, it is a fair assessment. 2 view chicks won't grow to be 4 views just because they put 9 hours long streams 6 days a week. If they don't find a niche they will remain EXACTLy where they started

>>72840323
one of her old rants a few months back

Sex with hebe fauna

>>72838974
>>72839073
makes sense. They have been talking about M&A in the last board meeting.

>>72840343
This is Sony, doing retarded shit is SoP.

>>72840325
>inherently assumes that all Vtubers are streaming on Twitch
Therein lies the failure point

>>72839622
There's bad blood. Suisei and Shiori hate eachother. They need to fight with pillows in undergarnt.
Kronii and Fauna too

Any updates about the concept vtuber

>>72840325
Just be vtweeters duh. So easy.

>>72840330
Better

>>72840390
This person isn't even saying find a niche they're literally saying "lol just make tiktoks and you'll incline like I did"

>>72840325
Shes not wrong. Streaming a lot but to the same audience isn't going to help you grow. You need to game the algorithm with shorts / drama and have the new eyes on you stick around by streaming.

>>72840198
speaking of cons, when does AX start announcing stuff? I wanna get tickets but only if there's gonna be holo stuff represented but I dont want to wait to long before scalpers get to it

>>72840325
but thats actually true though and even some big fleshstreamers have said the same things in the past
just streaming 10 hours a day wont do anything unless you are actually entertaining

>>72840393
Interesting. I don't doubt it given everything so far. Sisters gonna unleash a pandora's box.

>>72840325
Streamers are lazy fucks who would rather just play games instead of actually grinding a real skill.

>>72840325
I think that's a reasonable take. You can't just stream and stream hoping one day you go viral. Content creators should create content.

>>72840448
>shorts/drama
Shorts can work, but drama viewers almost never last.
It's better to recruit at least one or two clipfags as fans and farm for clippable moments that could cause a breakout.

>>72840447
The only thing wrong in that advice are these two words
>into Tiktoks
it could be fixed with this change
>You need to find your niche and turn content into something special that shows your personality

>>72840325
Is her niche assuming all vtubers are dumber than her

>>72840343
>ohh yeah, lets buy a company which has 200 most boring vtubers in the world
Anon we are talking about Sony who's original plan for Vee was to debut 150-200 vtubers in under a year until they reduced it to 100 and then only debuted 50

>>72840486
Hey just like Fauna which is why she should get the fuck out of Hololive

>>72836743
offtopic OP image

07/20

>>72840325
I mean, I guess. But streaming less and not learning how to be a streamer sure as shit doesn't help either.

>>72840183
The Kromei hate each other rrat was pushed by shitposters with tunnel vision that honed in on the notion that Kronii wasn’t retweeting Mumei’s event streams or commenting on her milestones while ignoring the fact that she also did that with Bae and Fauna. This is different because her ghosting of Fauna in this case is an exclusively unique.

>>72840538
go back to the nijisanji thread

>>72840570
CGDCT Giga Stacy is very on topic for /#/ actually.

>>72840390
Twitch is the worst form of Vtuber growth except for all those other platforms that have been tried from time to time.

>>72840208
You got bamboozled by Fauna.

>>72840325
tiktok/short sub is useless

>>72840336
its been over a year now, but I roughly remember Gura hovering around the 15k line when she was "active" with a hard 10k floor, its obviously stupid to cherrypick the one EN stream that does well for the day and apply that as a basis, but I think some girls if they keep inclining could get there, mainly Fauna. The rest seem to be propped up by buff streams like announcements and karaokes.
Now the real question is where would Gura end up nowadays if she became "active" again not just with return buff.

>>72840575
She's literally back already, bro
Take the W, don't turn it into an L by going farther
You don't want the Ryeschizo ending

>>72840575
anon... she's already in vshojo...

>>72840534
>>72840408
that be the case but there is no way Sony is spending billion dollars to buy a company struggling with brand recognition and non existent growth potential oversees

>>72840325
>you should stream good content and refine it into even better content

Like how streamers always also have a youtube channel to post edited videos? This is not a new thing.

>>72840671
We were seeing her hit 20k, but at the same time, the rarity buff was applying, I suppose.

>>72840678
>there is no way Sony is [DOING RETARDED ACTION NUMBER 560]
Gee, I wonder.

>>72840709
chuchuchuchu~

>>72840674
She said she wouldn't join vshojo or stream on twitch. This podcast is just a temporary thing too until something big happens in the near future.

>>72840325
But seriously, is basic self-marketing really THAT difficult? Most of the streamers I know about don't even try it, like at all

>>72840678
>that be the case but there is no way Sony is spending billion dollars to buy a company struggling with brand recognition and non existent growth potential oversees
this is the same company that thought buying a number of jap microcorpos and closing them down was a good strategy to grow their vtuber investment

Kronii's family are probably North Korean exiles, that's why her life is shit.

>>72840709
Plappy chu

>>72840756
>She said she wouldn't join vshojo or stream on twitch
she also said that she wouldnt go back to vtubing or having an online presence and yet here we are

holy numbers

>>72840728
anon, doing retarded shit internally is different than a billion dollar M&A investment...
Especially in an industry where they already have a vtuber brand

Man, this new Luna cover is pretty good!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGrEc0qOxFI

>>72840599
haha he caught you good there anon lmao

>>72840713
its also good to consider the verification bug was fixed so its possible those Gura streams were just culled and she was consistently on 20k after all

>>72840758
Remember that twitch vtuber who threw away a cute panda model for a bimbo sex alien octopus because "people won't clip me as a loli"?

They are so lazy that spending tons of money in a new model sounds more reasonable than making good and marketable content

>>72840863
yeah, her voice works really well with World is Mine.

>>72840671
Gura's numbers were higher than you remember. Here's a random month towards the end of gura's active period, before the hiatus arc started to slowly creep in.
Gura got 15k on some debuff games but it wasn't that typical. and yeah, 10k was her floor, but that was her floor for like.. ultra debuff shit, like watchalongs of public domain movies and such. Go ahead and click around 2022, I think you'll be pretty surprised at Gura's numbers if you think she was a 15k streamer.

>>72840575
sorry pomufag but the next hololive gen will be next year and she will never be in it. Ni ex-niji all out war will

Small streamer who wants to be big some day should stream, stream and stream... So much that he/she/it knows that shit inside and out, so that if the success comes he/she/it won't be caught pants down and shit the bed.

>>72840626
Youtube is far better for growth and discoverability if you aren't hitting critical mass to get off the bottom to begin with. The algorithm serving your VODs/streams to people as part of the anti-rabbit hole change they made like a year ago does wonders.

>>72840709
galactic chuuuuu

>>72840809
I heard Kronii's grandfather was the lead engineer for the NK nuclear weapon project.

>>72840861
>anon, doing retarded shit internally is different than a billion dollar M&A investment.
In sony there is no distinction
>t. jamba juice and spiderman email

>>72840756
>until something big happens in the near future.
My guess is she gets a new model and tries her own shit out independently.
Maybe Matara is literally just using Vshojo's assets to give Mint some revenue.

So, we can all agree that this is the biggest flop for a cover of this song, right?

>>72840925
Success doesnt just come though, you need to be making content if you want a good chance of succeeding. That's why you're better off growing through content creation first before getting into streaming.

>>72840785
>buy Anycolor
>close EN
>finish off ID
>can all JP 3 views
>wait for inevitable self destruction

>>72840964
>Maybe Matara is literally just using Vshojo's assets to give Mint some revenue.
I doubt gunrun is that magnanimous
most likely matara is helping out mint out of her own pocket, just like how she's shilling quinn

>>72840709

>>72841023
>Success doesnt just come though
It did for holoEN. They didn't earn any of their popularity. It was just handed to them by the holoJP audience.

>>72836743
Based OP

kek, my wife just realized she used to watch Anime all the way back and didn't know it was anime and now she can't make fun of my weeb ways anymore
>She watched Candy Candy
She and I just realized that because I was watching this video right here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT1ZXudH73Y
and she asked
>WAIT, CANDY CANDY IS ANIME?!?!

Don't laugh anons, I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was. Now what I'm with isn't it, and what's it seems weird and scary to me, and it'll happen to you, too

>>72840756
Just like she was going "back to school", right?

Like what if Kim Jong-nam is her biological father (he had 6 children) and that's why everything is shit.

>>72841084
Changing your verbiage won't cloak you, phasenigger

>>72840291
All her stuff is from 2022 right? Nothing recent? As time goes on the potency falls away

>>72841084
Jamie! Pull up the clip of the graph of Gura BTFOing everyone in JP in a single month.

>>72840948
>Youtube is far better for growth and discoverability
Okay then Give me 5 Indie Youtube Vtubers who went from 0 view to 4 view without external help like being an orbiter or linked with a massive corpo vtuber? You'll find none.
The YT algorithm way more unstable, harsh, unforgiving and unpredictable than Twitch meta.

>>72841023
Success is luck first and talent second. Of course you should be hustling all over but if you don't have the basics, you are fucked. Or maybe I'm just old man stuck in the past.

>>72841084
I'm begging you to get new material, it's been months.

If we look at Anycolor JUST from finance perspective, they are a hugely profitable company with almost no debt...
Even in the worse case scenario they can just operate NijiJP and still make alot of profits

>>72841084
Right, because those girls had no experience and didnt have to be chosen out of thousands of applicants

>>72841195
>indies
Ew. Go back to /lig/, ligger.

>>72840863
i have that shit on repeat

>>72840863
Hajimete no chu cover when

>>72840925
>Stream a ton
>Don't really improve because that's all you did without learning other new skills that are applicable or building your fanbase the hard way
>Some big chance happens, you are boring as fuck and it passes with minimal gain

1500 comments DOORRRYAAAAA

>>72841091
To be fair I think a lot of people used to watch anime without knowing it was anime even back during OG pokemon, Dragon Ball, Yugioh times.

>>72840863

>>72836743
Any bets on the chicken being a nijinigger sister? I'm pretty sure this whore hates the holofanbase except her own because they love her despite her being a loathsome whore

>>72841180
>All her stuff is from 2022 right?
she shouldd have logs from early 2021 to middle 2023 since she apparently still had access to lucas login and credentials due to him not changing passwords

>>72841091
That's why I say Captain Tsubasa is the most popular anime in the world more than DBZ.

>>72841220
Profit? pfft this is the modern stock market, if you aren't growing forever (and more each year) your shit is garbage.
Investors don't want lifestyle businesses that earn a reasonable profit every year, they want businesses to grow in leaps and bounds so they can sell your stock at the top to some drooling retard

>>72841220
Just from finance perspective, their stocks plummeted not long ago.

>>72841091
Don't laugh anons
No, I will

>>72838440
Tenma is a good streamer, but maybe not the best figurehead since she's very much in the vein of the classical Twitch streamer where she and chat mildly antagonize each other for laughs over non-serious things, and the average vtuber fan isn't ready for his oshi to be screaming about how she's going to fuck his mother and to get back in the piss corner. I personally find her very enjoyable and nostalgic for back what streaming used to be, but Tenma is not your normal chuuba and will filter the fuck out of the average viewer.

>>72841195
>Okay then Give me 5 Indie Youtube Vtubers who went from 0 view to 4 view without external help like being an orbiter or linked with a massive corpo vtuber
I'll give you four right out of the bat
>Hal
>Reid
>Chiroru
>NeruMero

>>72841220
Their stock would probably be a lot higher right now if NijiEN never existed

>>72841295
She’s been a Hololive fan longer than the majority of people here have been.

>Over double the hours streamed
>Over double the streamers
>2600 ccv vs 7435
>Nearly 8 million less hours watched
>CCV includes EVERY branch, Including homos
This is actually borderline pitiable for niji

>>72841195
sky, that mom vtuber, hal, reid and that baseball guy

>>72841257
>moving goal post
I accept you concession.

>>72841048
He strikes me as the kind of person who still subscribes to the Zero Interest Rate market behavior, to be honest. I could see it happening. Especially someone who was raised on the economics of Twitch.

>>72841382
Don't forget Hachi

>>72841091
how old are you anon?

>>72841363
>the average vtuber fan isn't ready for his oshi to be screaming about how she's going to fuck his mother and to get back in the piss corner
That's most twitch streamers and nijien content

>>72841399
that 25% differential from last year, jesas

>>72841091
It's over, she's been in deep before she even knew it. This is the wedge to bring her in.
You gotta start showing her the Anne of Green Gables anime

At some point you have decide if you want to be a vstreamer or vtiktoker. Both are valid, I guess.

>>72841397
fake holofan you mean. Did you forget she larped as a nousagi?

>>72841357
>>72841353
yes, yet their market cap is still 1.5 billion dollars....
Not saying they are in good shape, I am saying they are not dying anytime soon if that is what we are wishing for

>>72836935

Sex with Mübel.

>>72841195
Yoshika!
3D live in the works!
Regular 4view!
Frequent top tier karaoke streams!
Pretty much free membership if you are active in chat!
Come and subscribe!
https://www.youtube.com/@YOSHIKA-Ch

what happened to ina? wasn't she a 8k streamer at least?

>>72841526
Unironically promoting yourself in Tiktok is a good idea.

>>72841526
are nousagis fake holo fans now or what?

>>72841526
Fake fans buy merch and watch streams? Guess I’m a fake fan then.

>>72841417
>He strikes me as the kind of person who still subscribes to the Zero Interest Rate market behavior, to be honest. I could see it happening. Especially someone who was raised on the economics of Twitch.
lel no considering he was one of the people that approved the steam stream which doomed twitch in favor of money

>>72841566
Green haired white woman happened
Also shit game choice

>>72841220
>If we look at Anycolor JUST from finance perspective, they are a hugely profitable company with almost no debt...
>Even in the worse case scenario they can just operate NijiJP and still make alot of profits
That's a dumb way to look at things because it is not factual.
They can't just "operate NijiJP and still make a lot of profit" unless they severely downsize their operation exactly like most technological companies do when they're facing a downturn.
The whole bet of this type of companies is twofold
1) Hire massively and try to expand their operation as wide as they can
2) Fire the excess workforce when they reach a growth limit and can't muscle their way into any additional market
Then you are faced with three questions.
First
>Which stage does it look like Anycolor is right now?
Second
>If their whole staff is under 350 people, who are the people they can fire to increase their profitability?
Third
>Does it look like they're firing people right now?
They gave a try and ditched the whole KR, ID structures plus Yumenographia wholesale. Does it really look like they have ANY fat to trim?
If not, they can continue being profitable but it is more likely than not that they'll have to cut the "long tail" and that goes for both their abroad operation and their local too

>>72841616
Don't put this on Fauna.

>>72841566
>wasn't she a 8k streamer at least
She is. If she wasn't, she wouldn't be getting 4K with part 6 of nonsense musou.

>>72841445
I'll answer that with a statement
>I watched Saint Seiya when it came out

>>72841382
None of them is independent.

>>72841596
No, but antis live to larp as nousagis.

>>72837298
Your rrat is shit she's doing this for KroMa who she's in love with.

>>72841220
>Most of their assets are in fucking liquid cash
lmao

>>72841627
The fat they’re trimming is the perks that the shitters got

>>72841566
that bitch chicken is stealing MY ina's viewers

>>72841566
Is this the part where we pretend that content choice doesn't affect numbers

>>72841610
>the steam stream
?

>>72841695
OJISAN!!! me too

>>72841707
>The fat they’re trimming is the perks that the shitters got
they trimmed that fat way before anon since last year

Cute video of Sora dancing to her new hit song!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWkkJZZOiD4

Sex with large chested retarded women

>>72841696
Hal and Reid are not independent because Hal took his personal structure and build a company around it, but they definitely started as indies.
Anon requirement was not "indie" tho, but "without external help like being an orbiter or linked with a massive corpo vtuber" and all four qualify for this requirement

>>72841627
I think you can make a case that corporations are similar to star formation processes, because this reminds me deeply of Helmholtz contraction.

Slugma is back!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kwndY6K6po

>>72837640
Some upper JP manager was belittling KroMa, Kronii wouldn't take that shit so she talked to him(?) while KroMa translated. This was from last August, I think.

>>72841566
Not really, Ina's debuff spam in the 5-6k range dates back to early-mid 2021, with even some 4ks popping up back then. It's just that within the past year+ the debuff spam has been kinda relentless with hardly any buffs between so she's also been shedding chunks of casuals.

>>72841566
Shit games after shit games after shit games. Also she takes ages to finish one shit game.

>>72841821
>Petra and Rosemi for 3D models
Not really. Also all the shitters taking up Voice pack slots

>>72840863
How is Luna doing in terms of song numbers? Feels like she has improved but I'm not actually sure

>>72841772
Anon made a census the other day and there are lots of 35-49 in this thread

>>72841164
OH NO NO NO Phasecucks, our response?

>>72841627
you are literally watching them taking away all the perks, NijiFes might not happen this year, 3D lives only to top performers, almost no support for NijiEN

I hate Niji with passion too but lets not be naive thinking that Niji revenue model is not profitable

Run Ina! Dizzy is coming!

>>72841091
I'm pretty sure the World Masterpiece Theater series which adapted a lot of classic stories in animated format was the gateway to a lot of children getting into anime.

>>72841771
twitch originally didnt allow non gaming streams in their website
then they allowed a steam party to be streamed in twitch which opened the floodgates to non gaming stream content

>>72841343
What's that? Is that like Inazuma Eleven?

>>72840919
well damn,I just went back and checked all the months for 2022, excluding buff streams Id say she hovered around 22-23k, neat.
Whats interesting though is I got curious and checked 2023 and she was a bit active during advent debuts and surprisingly those streams did hover around 15k, Im guessing due to overlap hell, that might be what I was remembering

>>72841706
>Most of their assets are in fucking YEN
FTFY

>>72841627
I mean really it's just a terrible look that Nijisanji has run out of growth potential without being able to successfully exploit literally the entire rest of the planet beyond their own island nation in demographic decline. This is why it's such a bad story.
They've either given up or are in the process of giving up on the next two largest markets for their product, which a competitor has been able to exploit to huge success. They've demonstrated that they are incapable of doing business outside of Japan, which is very common for many Japanese businesses but means they don't have what it takes to be a global player. It brings dishonor to Japan and perpetuates stereotypes about their backwards and out-of-date business culture.
It's a horrible failure in vision and leadership, Riku would resign in shame if he still had the Yamato spirit of his ancestors.

>>72841962
>you are literally watching them taking away all the perks,
Anon, that's not even nearly close to what's needed. "Taking away perks" is the equivalent of companies taking way the free coffee machine at the programmers lobby, it is not a sign of "return to profitability" but a sign of sure death because there is no way it was "having a new outfit for Kokoro, the literally who chick" that was in the way of company profitability.

>>72837298
I got an even less theatric rrat
>Kronii (by her own admission) is somebody who doesn’t initiate interactions, and needs other people to constantly reaffirm they like her/want to spend time with her or else she starts to assume they don’t
>Fauna is an introvert who rarely initiates interactions and reads too much in to the fact that Kronii is ghosting her
>Thus they have now stunlocked their relationship because each thinks they’re are disliked by the other

>>72842045
Are Japs going to do something about this or are they just gonna watch Yen crash and burn like their birth rate?

>>72841902
>Not really.
but it is, the rosemi and petra 3d models were probably in the niji storage room since 2022 and they pulled it out as a hail mary
this literally isnt the first time they did this since they did this with voltacion by giving them a 3d before salome after voltacion started flopping hard even though salami debuted 1st and was more popular

Kronii talked about her trust being broken again. So, if you tards want a rrat then Fauna is an untrustworthy lying backstabber and that's why Kronii hates her.

>>72842157
they want to but the US isnt letting them dump massive amounts of dollars into the market just before a US election

>>72842045
Sure is a great time to be adding a US subsidiary

>Evangelion is almost 30 years now
WHO IS THE OJISAN NOW, HUH NUMBERFAGS?!?!

>>72842276
If they weren't being cunts about tourism and making it increasingly hard to do events and shit in Japan as a foreigner then this wouldn't be an issue.

>>72842065
but its not about "return to profitability", thats my point, they are highly profitable with 40% profit margin....
they are all about making profits by releasing cheapest products

Problem they currently have is that they set their standards too high to achieve for their own business model. They fked themselves by aiming to be an industry leader when they should have just been a JP focused company

>>72842157
They're doing some changes, like ending the Negative Interest Rate era. But there's only so much you can do.

>>72842311