/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>72669638
>unironically mentally ill

>>72669638
Why do people think she was the one who got Mel fired from Hololive again

>>72669638

What she means by 'mentally heal' is getting over the guilt of what she did to Mel.

>>72669638
shes lay low scared of being exposed

>>72670719
Mel told someone close to her something secret related to hololive, a short while later, it gets leaked and Mel was fired for breaching contract. This was around the time the two of them were hanging with each other, and I think Mel tweeted about someone betraying her trust

>>72670729
She had an off collab with Mel shorty before she got fired. Then some anon made up a rrat that Mel's PL unfollowed Kotoka's PL, which was instantly debunked, but retards still believed/spread it (she's still following her btw).

>>72670719
>zaion gets terminated
>shit on zaion shortly after she got murked
>finally collab with mel
>she also gets terminated because of nda bullshittery
>one of mel's last collabs was her
>YOU ARE HERE
also mel said something about a friend was involved in the nda breach (or something along those lines)

>>72670995
>>72670719
Meant to reply to this.

>If I want to create drama I just need to lie
Fuck the people, they always get tricked by random schizo rrats
>What happened to the Mel unfollowed Kotoka narrative? Suddenly it's gone >>72671060

I thought japs didn't believe in mental illness

>>72671229
>Fuck the people, they always get tricked by random schizo rrats
You uphold the standards of truth. Based anon.

>>72669638
She will be harassed forever by Mel fans.

>>72671060
and for some reason she pulled out a Nijisanji defense (also known as inability to shut the fuck up), where she tweeted that she is not related to the 'suspected incident'

>>72670867
Or she probably got stealth suspended pending termination.
She streamed on 2/12, right before the black screen, so it's probably not because of Mel. And her only activity since then was reposting/retweeting fanart on twitter, which is totally her and definitely not another case of management skinwalking.

If she is suspended pending termination, it's either because of the Mel situation (unlikely), or because she apologized privately to Sayu but management found out (slightly more likely).
Or it's a genuine hiatus, but she's decided to be on a "mental health" hiatus until her contract expires so that she can leave the company without having to pay a severance fee.

>>72671434
Yes I do, now you get 50 years of jailtime for questioning me anon

>>72671513
the funniest thing is she did not write in japanese at all, and before she was on a JP collab spree

>>72671599
i think she is mentally checked out of streaming since a long time

>>72669638
lying bitch.

>>72670719
We know the nda leak happened within a 3 week timeframe of her cat last being heard on stream to the termination notice. Mel mentioned from a time of weakness due to her cat passing that she accidentally leaked information to someone she thought she could trust. Kotoka was an old friend who had an off-collab with Mel shortly before her termination.

>>72671513
People were saying that in her youtube comments. It was another case of /here/ leaking like a net.

>>72669638
So, a mentally ill betrayer of trust?
Nijisanji sure knows how to pick them

standard niji-folk, bearers of mental illness and bad behavior

>>72671418
They believe it, they just shun it.

I still not seen a scrap of substantive proof that Kotoka had anything to do with Mel's termination. Just a bunch of mouthbreathers who think what happens on the screen to be a direct reflection of what goes on behind the screen. As a GURRAT believer I find this dearth of evidence pitiful.

>>72672851
Mel unfriended her across social media right after her termination, and several fan-creators including her Mama made snide comments about backstabbing. It tracks faggot.

>>72673220
>making shit up

>>72672131
It was all so shocking. I remember mikan interrupting Meru mid-stream like 2 weeks before. Maybe it was 3. It's still all too sudden.
I wish she'd have just told us. She'd have at least felt a little better rather than put on that "all's okay" mask and kept streaming.
She was a lovely cat.
I miss Mel.

>>72673562
Yeah she was a nice constant, always nice to see in collabs lives. I just hope she’s having a good time now.

>>72671509
No. Kapumin will respect Mel’s wishes and refrain from speculating. The ones harassing her are dramafags and console war soldiers. If anything kapumin are more upset at Yagoo/hololive management who they were already skeptical of because of the shit they did in the past

>>72673401
>still coping
>"""""""""""""""""""""""""health break""""""""""""""""""""""""" for months that totally isn't a stealth suspension because it was happening during the Selen nuclear bomb

>>72672851
Sayu already confirmed she's a backstabbing bitch, so she has track record

>>72674768
>still no proof
Alrighty then

>>72671229
NTA and I don't know shit about Mel, but the zaion thing absolutely happened. It's almost sociopathic how easy it is for her to lie about zaion, especially after that potion stream where she tried to talk all cute about how she totally still loves zaion and how xsoleil will always be 6... right around the time sayu had a breakdown calling kotoka specifically a backstabber

>>72671599
>If she is suspended pending termination, it's either because of the Mel situation (unlikely), or because she apologized privately to Sayu but management found out (slightly more likely).
Honestly, I fucking hope so. Sayu deserves the closure on that, if nothing else. Seriously, for all the shit that people did to sayu, if they at least show an effort and apologize, even privately, my seethe will evaporate in an instant.

>>72674490
>revisionist sister
nice try kotoka

>>72675692
>especially after that potion stream where she tried to talk all cute about how she totally still loves zaion and how xsoleil will always be 6... right around the time sayu had a breakdown calling kotoka specifically a backstabber
She also talked positively about Zaion in a mengen shortly after her public statement.

>>72676044
had to go back and check again to be sure. Her little potion stream where she acted all cute about zaion happened around a month before Sayu named Kotoka specifically... God that's gotta be rough.

>>72671060
>one of mel's last collabs was her
So that's the only piece of "evidence". Nothingburger.

>>72676215
retard, read the thread >>72673220

>>72669638
mel is gone because of this whore

>>72669638
>kills Mel's career
>blames it on mental illness
Is there anything women wouldn't do at this point.

>>72670995
>which was instantly debunked
reps, retard, this is embarrassing even for vt

>>72674490
Holy shit, an actual attempt to rewrite history. Fuck you, you Nijiniggers deserve to drown with your flopping EN branch

>>72676861
Instantly debunked by nijiniggers like you kotoka which doesn't mean much this is the same as saying "we have throughly investigated ourselve and found no wrong doing"

>>72676861
The irony of your post is palpable. Do your reps, she's literally still following Kotoka's PL you dumbfuck.

>>72677395
Got any hint for the said PL?

>>72676518
They were talking about "backstabbing", sure, but not who backstabbed Mel. And the unfriending isn't true.

>>72677595
It should be easy enough to find with the usual search term.

Threads like these are further proof that 2020 was the biggest mistake in vtubing, and that Hiro should have rangebanned SEA years ago. You can't even make reasonable ad revenue off of SEAfags. Just cut them loose.

>>72669638
All of you should be diagnosed as "bitches and snitches"

>>72670719
timing. kotoka collabed with her and then like a week later Mel was gone. kotoka then shortly after takes a break for some kind of vague 'health' reason.

>>72669638
i still don't know why she even addressed the mel rumor. nobody took it seriously until she brought it up, now people think she was trying to shut down the truth. shutting the fuck up is the best thing to do 99% of the time.

>>72678268
It wasn't just the Mel situation people were angry at her for, she was explicitly named by Sayu as someone she felt had backstabbed her - and that was before Mel's termination.

>>72670867
The NijiJP purist fans know about her skipping the academy shit by joining as an EN, odds she got doxxed/stalkers and it's become too much for her to bear.
No idea why they didn't go after Meloco too though.

>>72670719
Because she's in Nijisanji and they just want to harass her as part of the dumb console war.
It's really fucked up honestly. I hate Niji for what they did to Doki, but harassing the other talents isn't any better. They're all victims of management too.

>>72679899
>They're all victims of management too.
nc try sister,but ppl are not blind or dumb like you

She was diagnosed with being a fuckable gyaru

>>72679899
Right, it’s just about harassment and not about a curious lapse in innocent behavior.

>>72679899
Like fuck. Sayu bonded with Finana and Kotoka, and both of them went out of their way to paint themselves as victims of HER somehow, with Kotoka even namedropping her after the fact a few times to go "look see teehee I totally still love her and we're friends even through hardships."
It's exactly the same shit as the black screen, only people fucking bought it because sayu was a relative nobody.
Completely different to Doppio and Scarle who actually showed serious support not only in private, but in public too however they could.

>>72680398
None of this is true. Kotoka only talked about Sayu in a members stream to say she misses her and that they fought to keep her. Sayu then spent the next 6 months bringing her up at any opportunity to remind people to harass her. It's really petty.

You faggots have spent months demonizing a girl that already suffered enough. Her 2 week old cat died on Christmas in the middle of a livestream. Her genmate then got fired and she had to tank the brunt of the harassment because people fixated on her for whatever reason. She overslept a NijiJP event and got harassed so hard by Niji sisters that other vtubers had to come to her defense. Just as she finally started to enjoy streaming again, her mom was diagnosed with cancer and she had to take a hiatus to take care of her. Then one of the biggest collabs of her career with Mel was completely overshadowed by schizos harassing her for Mel's termination afterwards. This girl can't catch a fucking break and you faggots are responsible for treating her exactly like how Doki and Sayu were treated by Niji management.

>>72680907
>Sayu then spent the next 6 months bringing her up at any opportunity to remind people to harass her.
Bullshit.

>>72679899
It's pathetic cope to claim that the hate NijiEN is getting is just Holo fans. Literally every chuuba, even down to small indies are mocking them. Whilst not small, Vedal (Neuro's creator) specifically made a parody "negligable" statement and bowing apology video. Even people like fucking Anny and Vei were laughing about Uki. Shondo said she hates herself but not enough to join Nijisanji. Everyone - even normies at this point - dislike and openly mock NijiEN.

>>72669638
>went to the doctors
How many stitches did she get?

Can (You) fucking retards quit peddling "THEY HATE EACH OTHER" nijisister bullshit and actually do fucking reps?
Sayu had one (1) (uno) fucking stream where she name-dropped Kotoka, and that's because she was surprised Kotoka would do something like that when they were such good friends. But Kotoka didn't do anything special, it was the same as the entire rest of the branch. Kotoka for her part told her own fans that it was nothing personal. Meanwhile everything possibly connecting Kotoka to Mel is 100% schizo rrat backed by nothing but character evidence that's already been refuted months ago.
The enemy here is Riku.

>>72680907
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj1VxyN8JT8&t=10846s
I guess this was just in my imagination? CLEARLY she wasn't actually in contact because Sayu's breakdown happened a month later.

https://youtu.be/dnP5bIRfwq0?t=104
>I saw her in person and became friends with her in private BEFORE we had anything to do with each other. I went out of my way to meet up and teach her secrets and tell her things before... you know before the debut. That just really sucked. I loved her. I actually loved her a lot. I saw her as one of my best friends.
For fuck's sake she was doxxed RECENTLY to the point where she might have to move AGAIN because of those sisters.
https://youtu.be/kpJG91KcbzQ?t=28226

But yeah, Kotoka's got a few mean comments for not ever acknowledging the one person she hurt whose DMs are permanently open.

>>72681838
And how does harassing Kotoka improve Sayu's situation? What is the endgame here? Just move the fuck on and stop spreading drama like a teen girl.

>>72670719
Because this is an eop board and nobody watched her return stream

kotoka the ultimate snake

if you got a record of backstabbing, it wouldnt be weird if she did it again. Since she got away with it the first time. Right now no one knows but I still don't like her because of the zaion assassination. If it wasnt her well sucks since she's the last one that was with her on stream. Also please for anyone in niggersanji just for the love of god shut your fucking mouths

>>72681195
Because it's easy fucking brownie points, retard. Ride the trend and take a cheap shot and the thing du jour, it's part of the larger react meta.
There are indies who have gripes but most are bandwagoning number monkeys.

>>72681482
Here is a life lesson for you. If you designate an "enemy" for the mob, they will go beyond your expectations and just start burning everybody alive, in the worst ways imaginable, even the innocents
I hope you're happy anon, you wanted a burnt tree but you're going to get a burnt forest

>>72681992
If on the off chance you're actually serious about this and not just arguing in bad faith, know that the sayu fans are not touching her.
I'm not harassing her, and most of sayu's fanbase don't either. All of us want her to just move the fuck on and forget every single one of those treacherous freaks.
The people harassing her? Actual nijisanji fans acting as false flaggers to get people to hate sayu more. We have countless examples of shit like picrel happening to her and other talents in Niji.

>>72681482
that one stream happened a full month before sayu's breakdown. Sayu's DMs were always stupidly open throughout that shit, which is why the constant barrage of hate, death threats, and threats to her actual fucking home were so goddamn treacherous to her.
You want us to give her sympathy for ratting people out because her 2 week old cat died? Where was that sympathy when Sayu's cat died? That one was with her for goddamn years, not two weeks.

>>72682420
I'm jouzu but I don't have 3 hours, timestamps plz.

>>72680907
There's so much false information in this post that it's not even worth spending time to address every lie

>>72683194
Sayu is INCREDIBLY forgiving and gullible.
I however am not. I hold grudges forever.

>>72683194
>THEY HATE EACH OTHER
cry moar.

>>72683504
>Sayu is INCREDIBLY forgiving and gullible.
Exactly. If she forgave Kotoka, she 100% would have made it clear to the public as well. The fact that she didn't tells you everything

>>72683566
Oh, I'm sure Kotoka has no hard feelings towards Sayu at all. I'm sure it's just another Tuesday to throw another person who believed her crocodile tears to the wolves. For sayu, it was one of the worst days of her life and the beginning of the lowest point she'd ever be forced to live through, but Kotoka? She's living large with japanese e-celebs thanks to Sayu's sacrifice letting her pretend to be a caring person for pity points. I'm sure she's actually grateful to Sayu for boosting her own career.

>>72676044
>>72676204
I hope Kotoka realized what happened to Sayu happened to her and that she may get very little sympathy when it does

>>72671229
Mel is an idiot or maybe she actually was a genius, who cares about an unfollow as long as she ghost her irl, why the fuck would something as worthless as an unfollow matter?

Mel isn't vindictive, you ever think maybe she thought ahead and knew that people would look for anyone she unfollowed after her departure?

>>72685046
If they were still such good friends, couldn't Mel simply say a nice thing on twitter towards kotoka on her "new" identity and instantly dispel everything? She clearly knows what's going on. It'd be innocuous and people would be able to bring it up whenever someone said anything bad about her. Instead, this emotional dumbass has apparently just let Kotoka get all the hate for something she allegedly didn't do. She doesn't have a competent lawyer breathing down her neck to not say anything like Doki has, does she?

>>72676204
Its pretty clear that Kotoka never thought to reach out to Sayu privately even though it was easy to do so. Which means that the only reason she sang Sayu's praises was to save her public image when it is now politically expedient to take her side. Even she must have known the damage she did to Sayu with her horrendous initial statement, and surely she did not expect Sayu to watch her streams.

>>72685398
Anon you're overthinking. They're clearly not good friends anymore if Mel hasn't vindicated Kotoka at this point

>>72686008
I know. That's the point I was trying to make. It's retarded to think that they're on good terms because the NDA only works one day and there's nothing stopping a former hololive employee from saying something nice to a current Nijisanji employee.

>>72669638
whatever it is time is not gonna do shit, she has to carry it

>>72678268
It also begs the question why Mel hasn't come out to confirm "it wasn't her" if she does something like that.

>>72670719
>mel told kotoka how much she was being paid.
>kotoka asked nijisanji for more money. >anycolor told cover.
>mel gets fired.
>mel unfollowed kotoka.
>kotoka get harrassed by mel fans.
>kotoka doesn't deny it and goes on break. >you are here

>>72683717
It tells me she never received a private apology.
Because that's how easy it is to get her forgiveness.

>>72686821
>headcanon
>headcanon
>yes
>made up
>maybe
>she denied it, it's even in the OP

>>72687168 (me)
Actually OP is a different tweet, but yes she did deny it in another tweet.

>>72669638
Any adult with respect for themselves, dislike betrayers. You can never trust them again, once they show their true colors.

Imagine being the company known for being a snake pit, nijikeks are some pathetic creatures

>>72680177
>fuckable
I think that is a stretch, but to each their own

>>72669638
Good luck with that, another failed Nijikek

>>72676928
They do this every day. Lie and lie, hoping it sticks. Just like the Nazi's.

>>72680907
>Historical revisionism to save face
Sure smells like sister-cunt in here

>>72683360
i only save timestamps for coomer moments from my oshi sorry

>>72681482
Interesting, can you give some actual evidence for these claims? No, your ass is not a source anon.

>>72671060
Not only that. Zaion/Sayu was legit irl friends with Kotoka before she joined Niji. Even helped her with setting up her streams and shit. When Zaion got fired from Niji, Kotoka immediately threw her under the bus and shit talked her. What kind of person do you think Kotoka is after doing that to Zaion? It's really not far fetched to think she fucked over Mel.

>>72669638
She was diagnosed with ADHD like every other vtuber.

>liars calling other people liars
Tribalfags are retarded

>>72693426
Nijisanji viewers will tell her to kill herself next time she inconveniences them

>>72693914
Nijisanji and their bullshit brought them here, they dragged in the whole keyboard warrior mob to play console wars. Give Nijsanji and their thrash a separate board, so we can enjoy chuubas in peace.

>>72682872
As always, Nijikeks spread nothing but garbage whereever they go

>>72670719
Because she is part of NijiEN and every vtuber from there has become a bullying target for pretty much every vtuber fanbase and even normalfags, but mostly from holodrones. There's no real evidence besides narratives written here that link her with the termination of Mel, but because it's fit the Hololive vs Nijisanji mentality, they just assume it as real.

For a retard point of view, every NijiEN vtuber bullied Selen and is evil, with the exceptions of Rosemi, Scarle and Vivi because they appeal to unicorns.

>>72693914
Another day on this board

Is this the norm for nijisanji where bad shit happens?
I confess I just start watching vtuber not long ago but most of the shit from the recent event came from nijisanji, not counting the jp side because I hardly know anything.

>>72677395
kek, how odd, a week ago nijifags were claiming that it was fake because she never followed her at the first place. try to keep one rrat next time

>>72696554
NijiEN is probably the last place you should look if you want anything besides drama. They have the worst (non-existent) management, worst talent pool (the good ones have either left or been terminated), and most importantly of all the worst fanbase. NijiEN fans deserve all the shame and ridicule they are getting for good reason

>>72696629
She was following her at the time the rrat was conjured and is still following her. Do your reps.

>>72696142
Sister, I know its easter, but could you sit your ass down with the persecution complex? Nijisanji and fans have equally shit on other fanbases and companies for years. This is hardly a one-sided thing. Stop acting like a victim.

>>72696629
They just keep making shit up, hoping people buy it.

>>72696142
I mean, retards like this one @72697126, he either believes this shit for real or have too much time in his hands and troll here for some (You)s. If you refuse his point of view, they call you sister, or a fan of NijiEN.

>>72697275
Funny because that's exactly what happened with the unfollowing rrat.

>>72669638
Fucking snake. Traitor

>>72696554
>A negligent, incompetent, NFT-shilling upper management led by a pump and dump specialist trust fund kid. Who run their business like a cult, complete with struggle sessions.
>A skeleton crew middle management composed of inexperienced and bewildered Japanese high school graduates with the barest comprehension in English.
>An infighting talent pool of largely mentally unstable trend chasers, tumblr manipulators, idol rejects and washed up twitch streamers. Their greatest gen waves are now memed hasbeens. The lack of effective management, their own inner demons and their yes men fans prevent the remaining performers from producing any legitimately interesting content these days.
>A rabid self devouring fanbase of serial harrassers, liars and cancel culture afficionados. Who will put their own talents on a pedestal only to viciously tear them down when it suits them. Composed of Kpop stans, Twitter slacktivists, fujos and yumes from East Asia and Southeast Asia, and unsubtle paid shills. Whose main base of operations is a Japanese doxsite.
Yeah, the brand is well past its prime.
Want the mindbreaking cult experience? Join NijisanjiEN.

>>72674490
Retard
Mel said multiple times in her rm that hololive wasn't to blame, that she fucked up and there was nothing they could do about it
In the real world, there are contracts that you have to uphold, no one in hololive wanted her out, but, again in the real world, some fucks ups are not something you can just shrug and ignore. Even mel, the pon dumb dumb that she is, understood that, so you have to be really fucking retarded to not get it

>>72669638
She was diagnosed with stealth graduation in order to not fuck up the Q4 report even further.

>>72669638
qrd

>>72693285
>>72671060
gentle reminder kotoka gave someone's boyfriend an sti and then called that someone a slut publicly to cover up her involvement with said boyfriend
kotoka also lost in court to that someone

>collabs ONCE
>suddenly they are close friends
>so close that mel shared her inner most secrets to someone outside the company
yeah, no.

>>72704930
Is this just a rrat or actual PL info that proves Kotoka is a literal homewrecking backstabber?

>>72706003
you should just investigate it yourself, anon

>>72704930
Surely not totally made up shit

>>72693285
This is the only thing that has been 100% confirmed and NijiEN did it's best to squash Sayu in favor of Kotoka.

>>72674490
The fucking usual sister crowd shitting on anything Holo related exists. You can't absolve yourself of your participation or being the number 1 likely suspect. Occams razor supports it and Mel never went out of her way to say Kotoka is completely innocent. She didn't have too. Niji ties are also the only way it could have quickly looped back to Holo management due to their pre existing collab arrangements.

50 days since last stream

>>72704878
People are accusing her of being the person who told Cover about Mel's leaks. Possible, but we don't really know

>>72707408
Let's get to 100!
Also didn't their contract say something about them needing to stream a certain amount of time every week?

>>72697126
>equally
No, I'm pretty sure Nijisanji fans have done far, far more damage to everybody else than anyone else has done to them, especially since the people doing that damage keeps getting exposed as MORE nijisanji fans.

>>72681482
>The enemy here is Riku.
Everything points towards Japanese management being merely incompetent and backwards while the actual EN branch members were the ones who were genuinely evil and out to ruin each other

>>72709889
Their victim complex is insane
https://twitter.com/fishballoon_/status/1773986147712311380

Alright, I surrender, reading you shitheads makes me really curious about this situation and now I'm back from almost an hour of archive digging both here and jp side.
Here is my boring conclusion.
In short summary, despite my exhaustive efforts, conclusive evidence remains "just a rrat". However, it is crucial to acknowledge the numerous coincidences surrounding the situation, coupled with concerning past actions on her part.

>>72710404
>YES we tried to get Selen to kill herself again and we doxxed Sayu and tried to kill herself but COME ON how would you feel if your oshi tried to drive someone else to suicide? Wouldn't you be upset when people call them a shit person?
I fucking hate these people.

>>72706497
Made up then.

brown

>>72704930
>did resarch after reading this
yo what the fuck
If even a fraction of these are real, it's pretty fucking par for the course for her to both do Zaion's shit AND Mel.
Man, now I hate her even more.

>>72704930
>she's an actual gyaru whore
I want to believe

>>72710404
I suppose this is the new angle NDF is reaching for to cripple Doki's momentum since they finally realized they can make nothing stick to Soki herself?

>>72683837
that artist was a little bitch for deleting the post. Should have stuck to his guns.

>>72712031
Pretty much. The funniest thing is I'm pretty sure losing Nijisanji actually filtered a lot of the dragoons and they seem a lot more mellow and less combative now.

>>72696629
>Source: the voices in my head

>>72710404
>Sink the yacht what are you going to do when it really ends?
Celebrate and knows that I did a good day work.

>>72710404
>what will you do when it ends?
Finally go back to watching vtubers without worrying about who's going to dox my fucking oshi today and send her a pipe bomb.

>>72700237
Most likely

>>72699806
I think the doxxsite is Korean.

>>72716234
It can't be. The time and date stuff isn't loopy enough to be korean. I'm pretty sure it's japanese.

>>72706497
Not OP or that anon but I did decide to do my own digging and I found info about her but nothing about a lawsuit. I'm going to assume it's false.

>>72717133
also NTA but you must've found different shit. The stuff I found showed there was and that kotoka lost it.

>>72669638
The bitch who snitched tries to hide in the pitch black ditch