/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>72511862
They had stopped investing money in the branch since late 2023. NijisanjiEN is running purely on livers's pocket right now.

>>72511862
they're really scraping the bottom of the barrel, huh?

They need to release it quickly before more people graduate and they will have to scrap even more of it.

>>72511862
This is like ordering pizza and forgetting about it only to have it be made that day but delivered a month later.

>haha despite me getting raped in the ass with a 20-inch spiked strap-on by Riku-sama himself, please come watch me lick his boots clean for the cheap ticket price of 150000$$!!
Every single Nijinigger should be shot.

>>72511862
why don't niji livers get blue checkmarks when holos do? is anycolor really that fucking cheap?
having one promotes them in the algorithm ffs

PUT ME IN THE VIDEO PARROT

>>72511862
So why did they all go to Japan then?

>>72511862
This is like when your favorite scum gacha trying to suck your money one last time before EOS

>>72512340
To assault the people that wronged them and their friends. Elira sacrificed on the scene to take down the evil boss that's why she hasn't been seen in months. That's my theory.

>>72512340
Highly likely for Petra-Rosemi 3D debut

>>72511862
Poor girl, the entire thing reeks of desperation. She has too much of a stockholm syndrome, afraid that if it flops.
Sayu meanwhile revealed it’s exactly as everyone though, the people in there are conditioned to believe they will be nothing without the company.
Imagine knowing this got released only because Riku is a coward and rather than taking the Selen Shokku he prefers unarchieve things held in for a year.

Also I am starting to think ghey did not specify clearly the concert is on bilibili only. Hope this will not cause another refund scandal.

>>72512340
My guess? to re-record those mid show talking parts, you can cut out songs that has canned talents but they can't edit the talking parts.

>>72511862
Grim as hell. Not looking good already.

Lol every group involved lost people. So everyone will get cut segments

>>72511862
Every wave except Noctyx is down someone since then, all of their group shit is unusable lmao. Since they are just straight up using the covid ar lives art with the missing people stalined out there's no way they re-recorded shit, no wonder its gone from 2 days to 1 day.

>>72512546
It will be a huge flop, because there's no Selen.

>>72512481
>>72512484
He meant actually all of them, even the boys. If it wasn’t for this I have no idea what else, and if it was to finally get good management you would expect to make a point of it, it would literally be taken as good news by everyone.
Nah, better fake this is for the anniversary in MAY and not because the company is sinking over Riku being a coward.

>>72512570
Imagine Petra MCing with a fucking ghost lmao. I would pay to watch it to be honest

They did re-record without Mysta, Nina, and Pomu (there was one point last year when Pomu was pretty much the only one not in Japan, this was around last August) but it sounds like they opted to just cut Selen's parts instead of reshooting a second time.

>>72511862
Is just me or this have some gramatical errors?

>>72512635
Oh right, it was suppose to be 2 days. It’s gonna be so incredibly scuffed. Makes you wonder why only Petra had the balls to make that announcement.
Imagine if Selen was actually centerstage for Obsydia. These fuckers really can’t just admit she and Pomu were the soul of the company.

>>72512741
Makes sense, at least it would explain why Petra was particularly affected by this (but why not Rosemi then?).

>>72512153
The barrel is empty, the bottom is scraped out - right now they are just digging a hole and going deeper and deeper.

>>72512675
They could just throw some JAV censor bars or blur in and no one will even know who it is

>>72512481
>Riku was Diavolo all along

>>72512741
They should just re-record it. Obsydia looking absolutely scuffed is gonna look as conspicuous as the black video.
Or they should stop being pussies, apologize, and release the full performance…but you know, JP only so people will not raise questions.

This reeks of
>quick, let's sell the recorded footage before someone else graduates

>>72511862
They successfully got rid of their strongest fanbases, congrats.

>>72512911
>Or they should stop being pussies, apologize, and release the full performance
It would probably be a legal hell.

>>72511862
What did Holo do now?

>>72511981
So 2% efficiency then?

>>72512912
More like
>Shit, the 3D didn’t work and we are about to crash again in the stocks, do we have anything in the closet left.
>Oh the AR! But Selen is still in it…Ah fuck Obsydia, we will just cut her exibition extremely short. Better than just admit fault.

>>72512546
Look at Pomu's mental breakdown recently, a lot of the people remaining may get it worse

>golden 20 to golden 15
It's kinda sad

>>72512945
Per "contract" they own everything she created while working for them as a "vtuber".
Once contract is terminated, they aren't obligated to pay her anything. No royalties or anything similar.
At least in theory.

>>72511862
Prerecordedsanji....

>>72513026
They choose in which bed to sleep. Management is never gonna allow any apology or reconnection with the western fanbase.
They prefer to invest in the east and fake EN is still a thing, while getting 3views here that will go even lower now that they got yabbed out of seeing the AR.

>>72513026
>mental breakdown
Isn't she having a good time now being an idol nerd full time? At least that's what I've heard.

>>72511862
I fucking hate people who use emojis

>>72512945
>>72513107
Doki would feel fully open to setlte things down, but they prefer to demonize her because she made it out. It would be too much of an admission the others can too, teaching them they don’t need Leechisanji.
Everyone get showered in stuff instead to stay, but the old archives are almost over. Then is back to old shitty management.

>>72511862
So this will just be a retcon'd mess, why even bother at this point?

>>72513257
UwU what's this? Is anon-kun a wittle upsetty wetty? OwO

>>72513107
That's the base agreement, but you would think in that case leaving VODs up to continue collecting ad revenue would be the default, but on the JP side purging the channel is standard even when leaving on good terms (and even Pomu's announcement said her VODs would be privated even though she said right away that wouldn't happen)

>>72513292
It’s not for us, is for an ignorant JP crowd who they pandered to for a month. They don’t even know who Selen is, but I wonder if the scuffness of Obsydia is gonna wake them up or not.

>>72512259
And with some slices missing.

>>72513223
yeah but she needs to debut soon. Her RM is just a cycle of Idolfag > MGS > flirting w/ Kiara > Repeat

>>72512546
Wait, I thought it was on NicoNico, Bilibili, and Stagecrowd. Did they change that in the last few hours since the announcement?

>>72511862
Lmao what a disorganised mess

>>72512316
She was probably “encouraged” by management to make that tweet.

>>72513107
right, but per their previous actions with the coffee mv, they would need to get permission to use talents that are no longer in nijisanji, which would take about 2 years, a very generous underestimation

>>72513421
I only read Bilibili and Stagecrowd, but couldn’t care less, it’s JP only. They are clearly saying they don’t want EN.

>>72511862
Wait, if the whole live is Prerecorded, why did they wait a year to release it?

>>72512945
There's no legal issues. That was always just an excuse for unpersoning livers that left.

You have to be shitting me. So they sat on this for a year plus, only do to nothing? It really took them a bad financial quarter just to put this out evidently.

>>72513505
That was an excuse and even the contract proves it. Person B is the only one needing permissions, if any ex-liver would try to sue for pre-recorded stuff, thry would win even in US for owning the IP. They already released plenty of MVs that seem to blatantly ignore the rule

>>72513572
Management canceled the AR to punish NijiEN
Now it’s their last hope

>>72513535
It's not JP only retard
https://intl.stagecrowd.live/s/scint/group/detail/i10124?ima=4437
Only NND is region locked.

>>72513572
>>72513608
Selen shokku. They are really,really suffering on the stocks. Turns out the rrats are true, all the recent releases are them scrapping all rules and just opening all the closets to give the talents free gifts to not leave.
It took this much beating to release the AR.

>>72511862
OOF GRIM

>>72512616
Wait who's that 2nd from the left guy in Luxiem? I thought there were only 4 of them. I didn't know they were actually five.

>>72513572
It was done to punish the livers for misbehaving when Japanese management got pissed off at EN unprofessionalism. That's why the boys mocked the COVID excuse in public and doormat Pomu told everyone that it's just postponed.

uki bros not like this

>>72513687
Ah yes, Stagecrowd is obviously an english company.
that's why they need to put
>intl
on their website.

>>72512849
Rosemi just hasn't said anything yet, and Petra doesn't want to speak on Rosemi's behalf.

>>72513285
Didn't maybefinana say that they tried to reach out to Doki but she didn't reply. She will most likely not do anything even if there is some legal stick to beat niji with.

>>72512849
Why would Rosemi record a song with Selen when's she's a clique member?

>>72513257
Emojis originate from Japan.

>>72513758
Shu Yamino, Elira's lazy Hanamori nepohire who is madly in love with her (one-sided love)

>>72513821
are you just a retard where do you think Z-an is from?
Stagecrowd is owned by sony.

>>72511862
Imagine if they just removed the models of the livers that graduated, but kept their voice in.
I could see them doing that. So a bunch of voices that aren't there, and empty spots in the choreography.

>>72513880
Uh, Obsydia's debut song Blackout? Selen, Rosemi, and Petra

>>72511862
>NijiEN didn't record any new scenes for covid era ARLIVE
They didn't even make a new poster, they just edited last year's one.

>>72513955
>bringing Z-an out of nowhere
Sister, we're talking about nijisanji English branch's English concert tm here.

>2 year old prerecored concert with cut content
You can smell the desperation

>>72513976
I mean, if a branch managed to piss away 40% of revenue in a year they should be punished with cuts and shoestring budget.

>>72513880
>Petra
>not a clique member
They probably registered a part with all of Obsydia that's been cut out, but then I don't undertand why Petra's overall appearance was affected more than Rosemi's.

>>72513572
>>72513608
No you retards, they recorded this last year around December. That's why Pomu wasn't in Japan.

It's so funny seeing vox hype this up so hard like it's brand new when him and the boys were pissed it got canceled due to bullshit reasons

>>72513975
You think all of them did their gen songs?

>>72513974
They wouldn't put in that much effort. Just cut the exlivers from the video. The songs will be full of jumps, but it gets the job done quicker and Nijifans will still buy it.

>>72513834
Has she retweeted the announcement? Didn’t check, but at this point I’m starting to think she is just a conplete coward, unable to take sides. Harada is basically shilling for her and she can’t even stream Tekken in return, afraid she will do badly and lose him.

>>72513880
she was one of the few organs that offcollabed with Selen

>>72514120
You don't?

>>72514132
>Has she retweeted the announcement?
Yes

>>72513862
>Maybefinana
You guys really believe all Larpers huh? They didn’t even try, it’s clear by how things they are going they are happy with their tarnished reputation. Only the stocks tanking was strong enough to cause things to move.
They will apologize only if the AR fails, mark my words.

>>72514120
They will sing Virtual to Live and getting flamed by nijiJP fans.
Mark this post.

>>72514120
Yes, why wouldn't they?

>>72514132
>unable to take sides
LMAO
She took a side one and a half months ago, whether you like it or not. I don't, it fucking sucks.

>>72513408
and by sisters logic it's all somehow the missing slices fault and not that the pizza place sucks.

>>72514167
>>72514191
The only one left. Coward all the way as we all knew. Even Petra felt bad enough to add something.
I hope the rosebuds can finally see.

>>72513223
She put out a long traumadump about how much she hates herself

>>72511862
Gura deflection thread.

>>72514176
No? That's almost 30 minutes of runtime for very little payoff. Guessing who is partnered with who and what they'll sing is part of what makes concerts like these exciting.

>>72514081
Considering Anycolor’s “short-term profit over everything” approach, it would make perfect sense for them to do so. But they promised to investors that EN will be one of the pillars of the company in the future, so now they’re currently locked into sticking with them. At least for now, I bet they’ll ease off supporting them by like around fall or mid summer.

>had everything recorded 2 years ago
>cancelled it with no real reason given
>only decide to release a stripped down version now
What kind of business decision is this called?

>OP and retards think they're using footage from a year ago

They re-recorded everything towards the end of last year. Otherwise they'd have to cut everything because almost every wave has a graduated Liver in it. This is why Pomu wasn't in Japan with them in November.

>>72514463
I dunno about you, but this "concert" doesn't look promising.

Taking bets on how long the run time this trash fire is.

>>72514029
Okay fine then why did hololive English not use a english based company for it's concert.
Spwn is a JP based company

>>72514463
Pillars need investment. This is just old stuff, once the old well is over it will be back at the old shit with a lot less audience. The fact this went from 2 days to 1 speak volumes on how cut it will be.
Mark my worlds, Selen was center stage so they would have needed to redo the entire performance, too costly. This is how they operate.

>>72511981
So pretty much standard practice for a lot of the Western world, where the leadership pockets the surplus, and lets the workers pay out of pocket. Truly the most EN branch of all time.

>>72511862
New target painted, Petra is already getting shafted for underperforming in her 3D.

>>72514483
Acting as if anyone on this board watches streams.

>>72514468
>2 years

It was canceled in 2023, not 2022.

>>72514580
Becaise Holofes is both branches, duh.

>>72514614
If that is true, then Rosemi will get it first. Her tanked even harder. Obsydia is a dead branch regardless without Selen, one JP obsessed liver and a coward.

>>72514580
>Using a single service for their live.
That's called efficiency anon.
Now tell me, what's the reasoning behind not one,not two, but THREE separate streaming platform for the nijiEN "English" concert?
Are they predicting such a massive number that a single service would melt their servers?

>>72513798
What stunning and brave grifting.

>>72514639
They don't even have to watch streams to know that, they could have easily tracked what they posted on twitter or just use their critical thinking skills. OP made up a lie with 0 proof and anons are dumb enough to take it at face value.

>>72514664
She's talking about hooEN concert last year.

>>72514483
Still the Obsydia footage will be shit. They are getting shafted at every turn because the company is too coward to admit they worked the entire 2023 to convince livers to leave and can’t just fire a manager and admit she was right.

>>72512340
the girls got pimped to the major shareholders while the boys got graped by riku in his yacht

>>72514468
It's called the last minute Q4 special.

>>72514772
Elon is grifting now? Sis, are you using ChatGPT?
>>72514776
You too Nijisis, that’s literally a post from Petra. Are tou saying the liver lied now?

>>72513798
What the fuck does this autistic boomer know about "gaming"?

>>72511862
So if I was one of the people who bought the non-refundable tickets for this 2 years ago can I use it for this one?

>>72514776
Which part was the lie sister?

>>72515020
Get fucked, Riku needs more yachts.

>>72514945
No I'm saying you're retarded. When the Live was canceled only Luxiem and Lazulight got to record anything for it. It wasn't until around November and December when they all went to Japan that they finally recorded it.

>>72515020
lol
lmao even

>>72511862
so you're telling me this ARLive is a 40mins show?

>>72514988
He started his career as a game dev, and possibly still plays them.

wait am I high how does Petra's statement imply they didn't record any new scenes?

>>72514988
Dood he showed up at a Valorant tourney, he’s totally a #GAMER!
Don’t think about it, he’s just a billionaire that wants adoration.

>>72514468
Incompetence

>>72515020
No means no!

>>72514227
I just want elira to apologize. Yes I'm that pathetic.

>>72515020

>>72515060
Sis, are you saying to me that management was so massively retarded they made that announcement with 90% of the recordings still not out?
>Also, Luxiem
By your logic, it will still come out scuffed as Mysta left after last spring. Things started with the AR cancellation, remember?

>>72515123
It doesn't, he made it up.

>>72515123
Cuz the only reason to massively cut it is that Selen is in it. Either ghat or they are massively screwing Obsydia for no reason, and that is Grim as fuck.

>>72515123
If they recorded new scenes she wouldn't have to apology in advance that her appearance was cut short.

>>72515159
Then stop paying and watching. Seems to work wonders, look how much stuff is getting out now that Riku is risking to lose everything.

>>72515183
Anon, read my sentences carefully.

Mysta and Nina were already gone before November. Pomu was already going to leave, and didn't go to Japan with the others. All of the first 5 waves went to Japan in November-December to re-record this.

>>72515183
>are you telling me that [incompetent niji management] did [bafflingly incompetent thing]

>>72515237
ok they could be cutting from the most recently shot Japan footage though? Selen went with everyone else in December to record more footage.

>>72515187
You are severely coping sis, it’s Petra’s post. Is she lying?

>>72512340
HoloFes and HoloExpo

>>72515350
This is what happened, but anons sre either acting retarded or are just retarded. Idk how that's hard to comprehend.

>>72515353
What part of Petra's post implies they didn't record any new footage for the AR Live? The OP makes it sound like she is implying that they're using 2 year old footage from the cancelled first one.

>>72515264
Because they shot new footage right before Selen was terminated. Literally like a month after.

>>72515060
LazuLight hadn't recorded anything for it prior to the cancellation.

>>72515020
Anyone who actually bought the tickets back then must've given up on Niji by now... right?

>>72515323
>>72515350
Still proving my point. They are cutting most of tge Obsydia performance because Selen is in it and they can’t just stop and settle things despite Doki having left all doors open.
Self-sabotage over just letting pride out, and you expect me to forgive them for some old footage? Once the old well is dry the beatings will resume, no one learned anything from this. Maybe when someone actially dies they will stop.

>>>72515123
It's easy
>They didn't record new stuff to make up for losing Selen
>That means that they lost at least 2 songs (Selen, group song with Selen on it)
>The number of days for the concert went down from 2 to 1
>Losing just 2 songs wouldn't be enough to cut out a whole day, so they must have removed the performances from all the organs that they lost
>They had to cut out AT LEAST 8 songs, probably more
>They didn't even bother to make a new art for the concert
This is just a cheap a cash grab

>>72515467
That makes OP's statement even more dumb then. How would they use year old footage if no one is in it except Luxiem?

There's nothing better than doxxsister tears

>>72515433
The part where she says she's in it less because something got cut.

>>72515533
Obsydia didn't record anything prior to the AR cancelation.

>>72515353
No, but you are putting words in her mouth. The only thing you can be entirely sure from Petra's post was that they will be using *some* old recorded parts (which were affected by former livers' departures).
However, that doesn't mean it's 100% guaranteed that there won't be any new, more recently recorded parts at all (whether Petra will be in those new parts, no one knows)

>>72515499
>yeah but selen almost killed herself!
The OP is based on a false premise, that they didn't record any new scenes for "covid era AR LIve"
They all went in December to record but Selen got fired so Petra's portions are cut short. It's not repackaging 2022 footage.

>>72515467
>>72515477
Wow, I’m actually baffled people are still giving them money when this is the standard. Literally announcing an event with no event prepared, beating livers morale until most of them leave, pushing someone to self harm and only answering with smear campaign.
10/10 corpo you have there, keep finding it, they may buy a studio for actual physical tortures.

>>72515574
What do you suggest got cut that resulted in Petra not appearing as much on screen as she hoped?

>>72515524
>Ii understand that it might not have been feasible to rerecord, edit, and polish every thing in time
Why? Nijisanji are the ones who decided the date for the concert. They could have just waited, record new parts and even add some new organs if they wanted to show some good will.
>and dramatubers better not blame this on niji again
lmao

>>72515522
OP is just dumb

>>72515664
See
>>72515633
It's not that difficult to understand.

>>72515664
I dunno the footage with Selen in it that they recorded back in December? The OP makes it sound like it's all footage from the canned AR Live.

Imagine if Elira and Vox did the black screen stream still in their sweaty mocap suits, because they had to do it just as Doki was just starting her stream and they were in the middle of recording?

>>72515670
>They could have just waited, record new parts and even add some new organs if they wanted to show some good will.
They are rushing this out ahead of new graduations.

>>72515664
Obsydia's group song Blackout, and a Obsydia group variety segment/skit. (AR Live is more than just the songs)

>>72515740
This was supposed to be announced around January/February. If anything they delayed the announcement.

>>72515524
>as an ex-dragoon
Why do they falseflag even on their hugbox doxxsite?

>>72515020
Sure if you let me fuck you in the ass.

>>72515573
Sis, if they could re-record, they would just do it. What’s so hard when they had both Petra and Rosemi theee for a month?
You are bring absolutely ridicolous, they clearly fixed the 3Ds, they couldn’t fix one song in 2 months? What did Selen sang, an entire fucking album with her?

>>72515806
Luca...

>petra decided to duet with that tone deaf in AR
>She decided to ruin it at the last minute with her shit solo cover which has graduated Livers who don't even glance at you now.

>>72515524
They really are pathetic, ditching all self-examination and responsibility to scapegoat someone. Classic copium tactic when you failed and wont face it.

>>72515781
Is it just me, or graduating Pomu right before the AR was a dick move?

>>72515835
The AR Stage is an actual real-life stage, it might have been booked when Rosemi & Petra were in Japan last month.

>>72515967
It was intentional, to scare the other livers into thinking twice before graduating.

>>72515781
They delayed the announcement, but not the event. Last year's was announced late january and that would have given them 2 months to sell tickets. Now they have two weeks.

>>72515967
she decided that she wanted to leave back in August which is before everyone recorded new footage, so no it's not a dick move but it sucks that she couldn't appear

>>72515729
Why they would be in the same fucking suit when everyone here is saying there is no new stuff since december, and tgeir concert should have been separated? It was a 2 day event, remember?
>>72515524
Sis being faggots and falseflaggers is nothing new. The company keeps ignoring how much of an open door to settle things Doki left, better keep going and let the western hate continue although all companies proved before a simple apology is all that is needed.

>>72514988
He knows more than you could even begin to understand

>>72515975
>might
The glass climbing gets steeper and steeper, now a stage is somehow booked for a month and an half. They could just delay it then…or they don’t give a fuck about the livers in Obsydia.

>>72515703
>Selen
>December
What footage, retard?

>>72514988
He wasn't really talking about Nijisanji

>>72516211
It wasn't December, it was October, when all the girls (except Pomu) were in Japan together.

>>72516120
>"How you doing fellow kids" the tweet
Not impressed, everyone and their mother was playing Elden Ring.

>>72516275
I don't think Selen was on it.
Do you have any twitter ss of her talking about the trip?

>ARLive
>literally none of it is live
huh?

>>72516338
Also that build sucks massive ass.
he really doesn't know shit about gaming.

>>72515524
>Ex-dragoon
Sure, based on everything i've seen on that website its infested with only luxnoc schizos that hate on girls and organize hate campaigns on them. Pic related. If she really was a dragoon she would pray for Petra to fucking dip. Pic related btw

>>72516342
Selen was literally a part of the all-girls off-collab stream.
But anywhere, here:
https://archive.ragtag.moe/watch?v=5unirarJoPA

>>72516446
as well as this

>>72515784
They probably mean it. These sisters are only loyal to the brand. The Livers are just the cattle carrying the brand. They will pretend to love and cherish cattle up until it is ready for slaughter.

>>72516507
Wrong year

>>72515835
Because, frankly speaking, the studio is rather packed and Petra + Rosemi isn't really that high on the popularity and priority ladder?
Imagine that you become NijiEN producer. Which would be more beneficial for the group - re-record some songs with Petra + Rosemi or recording more songs with Vox, Shu, Luca or Ike? Or simply records new songs for the more popular members?

Nah they recorded it in late 2023. That's why they were bringing everyone over to Japan in groups. It makes sense because Enna talked about how tired she was from all the dancing shit they were making her doing.
The "editing out" is almost certainly to do with Selen leaving in the meantime

>>72516243
We all know but seeing the sis seethe is so east that the bait could be anything, even a piece of paper.
>>72516512
Ah tes, never forget these schizo were loving her and she literally tried always to support the company, but now she’s a griefer for 3 years now.
All she wanted to do is leave like all the others who did, but now it makes sense, thry didn’t want to re-record the AR so they tried to stealth suspend her until the anniversary.
All truths come out in due time. We finally got the motive. I bet ghe others got the free gifts cuz they accepted to wait, so coming May the grad train will resume.

>>72516660
>picking favourites
Ah, of course.
Niji management and fans are so alike in their reasoning.

If they didn't even bother to make a new poster, then there's no way they recorded new footage. This screams of desperation to make the Q4 less of a horror show.

>>72511862
what's stopping NijiEN from including the ex-livers on the prerecorded concert? They should go all-out anyway

>>72516660
I would put the BIGGEST event not being scuffed as my main priority, schizo. Like, 100% objective easy choice, an MV can wait over not fucking an entire piece of the show.
You are really trying so hard and failing so much is cute. Try using objectivity too.

>>72516788
Do you remember the new rule they made up to fuck over Selen? What if the ex-nijis didn't give their permission this time?

>>72516841
The rule that they ignore immediately with Petra MV?

>>72516841
Anycolors own their voice and IP if the contract is to be believed

Is that shitshow going to be exclusively on NND or on Bilibili?

>>72516788
PR backlash mostly. All of them except Doki and Pomu have shittalked the company 24/7 withouy mercy. I’m not even joking, they could convince Pomu and Doki to probably allow the apparence, but they will not out of their fucking “honor” idiocy over that.
The Obsydia performance being scuffed will only caise 100% more drama, while settling with Doki and get the full Selen skit as her last apparence would unironically save the company face in the west and improve the show.

It takes a certain skill to be so bad at PR.

I wonder if this was what notPomu was talking about the other day when she said that she learned something about her old workplace that left her traumatized. Maybe she thought she was going to be featured in the AR.

>>72516968
I still don’t understand why thry can’t sell a youtube ticket. Pretty clear they want to avoid the western audience like the plague. The schizo will still find a way to fork money.

>>72516968
Stagecrowd (International), NND (Japan), Bilibili (China)

>>72514463
>pillars of the company in the future
Their audition choices weren't the best, but now it's gonna get even worse, everyone that joins the company now, after the contract reveal, is a massive retard.
I guess having someone desperate enough to join will make it easier to control.

>>72517011
Pomu didn't go to Japan in October with all the other girls, she didn't have anything recorded.

>>72514393
What happened to Gura?

>>72517170
...wait, did they announce the original AR without having everything ready?

>>72517011
I think she finally got the full story we are not getting and it’s clearly grimmer. Even the AR doesn’t explain Elira’s complete disappearance for 2 months. She did something that rewuired her to be under lock and key and NotPomu knows.

If she cared about the AR she would just not leave.

>>72517054
Why doesn't Cover sell Youtube tickets for HoloFes, then?

>>72517209
They did have something ready but the rrats said that the Luxiem and Noctyx faggots were so bad that they had to can the whole thing.

>>72517209
Correct. At the time of announcement in January 2023, they only had Luxiem's part recorded.

>>72516809
There is nothing "scuffed" about not recording some old footages again or dumping them. It's unfortunate that Petra's screentime was affected, but that doesn't make the event scuffed.
>>72516753
Everyone does when it comes to profitability. As if Holo doesn't do the same.
Otherwise, explain the difference in screentime in Holo concerts between Suisei and some less popular members.

>>72516975
It won't actually cause any drama because anybody who cared about the lazusydia girls more than the company's rep moved on by now so it will mostly be non-fans trying to start shit
The really embarrassing thing is that even though they had a year and several graduations they knew were coming from the original lineup, they didn't even try to include illuna or xsoliel
At least if they did that they could say "hey we know this took a while but we made it bigger and better"

>>72515020

>>72517291
>Holo does the same
Sure they are sister.
Holomen also badmouth their colleagues in a secret GC and bully others too, just like nijis

>>72517219
They streamed on YT, though?

>>72515020
anon...

>>72512340
To give the illusion that recording is recent.

>>72517054
YouTube doesn't support "tickets"; the only ones to use YouTube for a paid concert were vshojo afaik and their "ticket" was a $35 membership tier for the main channel

>>72517291
Yeah they also merge holoID with JP because it doesn't bring enough profits, oh wait...

>>72517378
Remind me what Rushia told Korekore again? Something about a senpai bullying her and the management didn't do anything when she asked them to stop it?

>>72517392
Only a preview, not the full HoloFes, which was on SPWN.
Niji is doing the same here. They're streaming a preview of AR Live on Youtube, not the full thing.

>>72515477
kek

>>72516660
>the studio is rather packed
I'm sure they can push back some of their B grade variety so they can release En's biggest event without compromising, right?

>>72517469
HoloID might still be around, but they get least amount of merchs and events compared to EN / JP

>>72517294
>they didn't even try to include illuna or xsoliel
This is the funniest thing. They had a whole year and they knew for a long, long while who was going to graduate next, so they had plenty of chances to prepare a good show and hype NijiEN. Instead, they are trying to sell the leftovers.

>>72517440
Youtube actually does have a PPV feature in testing https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/11039077
US only and only selected channels can use it. Who knows if it will ever be widely available.

>>72517294
I mean they have a live band this time, so obviously they did things differently this time.

>>72517294
And risk more defections? They literally tried to chain Selen in Febraury for this. It makes complete sense now, the ghosting and the BS rules that they immediately ignored nit even a week after.
Just stay until we can have our big events, then you can leave. She said no because she was done, so we had this entire attempt to smear her. Now they are dealing with a gone western audience and having to anticipate the events in April to fit into Q4 despite the anniversary being in May.

Too little too late. Reselling frozen cake doesn’t make the company one less bit shitty, if anything the scuffed Obsydia will only cause more drama, and god forbid this actually bombs.

>>72517287
source?

>>72517473
Doxx and private information about managers in hololive? Sister, you don't fool anybody, everyone in the internet knows Miguel's stupidity, the single fact you try to put Rushia's case as "LE HOLO BAD" is so stupid.

>>72516841
Why would they need permission from the people behind the personas?
Anything they did as Nijisanji Vtubers completely belongs to Nijisanji and is their IP.

>>72517706
Because otherwise the company would have to pay them for appearing in the Live, which sure as hell Anycolor wouldn't dare to do so

>>72516841
they can't even ask for play button permission

>>72516120
>2 shields
>intelligence at 68 for no reason whatsoever

>>72517473
>The menhera that lies about virtually everything and accuses her ex-husband of harassing her
Of course you would take her at her word sister, just like you took clique's word at their own.

>>72517473
>Aqua the literal drooling retard is bullying me because she streamed at the same time

>>72517473
I mean, we know she was talking about Aqua streaming Apex at the same time as her.

>>72517904
>>The menhera that lies about virtually everything and accuses her ex-husband of harassing her
Ironic you say this when you believed dookie who is a fat bpd lying menhera too

>>72517904
>>72517972
>>72518036
Successful Rushia deflection detected.

>>72518036
Why are you quoting me you drooling retard?

>>72518036
>We have proof of Rushia lying about tons of stuff
>We don't have proof of Selen lying about anything

>>72517904
>>72517679
>Selen claimed she was bullied
>Poor girl. I trust you!
>Rushia claimed she was bullied
>Menhera menhera menhera
Nice double standards

>>72518155
(you)

>>72518155
Miguel gato is publicly proven to be a mentally ill woman. Proof for Selen is just rrats, nijisister seethe and a slander video from a company.

>They went to Japan to give the illusion they were recording new shit
>Reimu ordered a second button with "reimu endou" on it in a secret act of rebellion

Schizobros we're gonna make it

Schizo thread

>>72511862
Jesus Christ, I'm starting to believe the rrat that this is Riku milking one final payday from EN before closing the branch

>>72518155
>Rushia is actually in defamation trials
>Rushia has proven to have lied to her fans, a lot

>Selen statements were partially confirmed by Niji before she made them.
>Niji has not sued her yet because they will lose, corpos have money and time
>Selen openly supports her fans, has proven thousand of times her goodwill, and is the only Ex-Niji still streaming who has not shit on the company.
>Somehow Nijisis made her public enemy number one and not everything else that actually fucked the company.

Maybe after 1000th time posting this it will stick in your brains. You ignore the fire in your house and the people shitting outside your door because a bird chirps outside your window. That’s why nothing is working, just adress the actual issue and this would not look desperate.

If they just let Selen graduate and reshot Obsydia’s part, this would be Niji’s year for a complete different reason.

>>72518036
Lying about what? Niji confirmed most things and the rest are anonymous schizo ramblings that make too much sense.

>>72518646
>rrat
No matter how well they paint this, it’s still 2 months with almost no stream. This needs to explode to somehow justify Q4, And their reputation is still horrible.

Things woll not get better, but they make fake it till June.

>>72518646
See
>>72512411

>>72518646
he is trying for last time

>>72518036
Sis, have you actually tried to look at the MV once? It’s a fucking love letter to all Niji, that’s why I 100% beieve she wanted to leave peacefully, if she just graduated normally you would be using her as an argument against all those who says Ex-Niji hates the company.

She tired many times but the corpo was too shitty to accept they would have to reshoot the AR and admit more bleeding, so they made up rules to force her to stay. All that happened is Niji’s fault, and if only they would admit management fucked up they would be out of this. Doki has literally NEVER attacked the company unprovoked, even spoke well of JP corpos. You just can’t accept it’s Niji who can’t help themselves messing up.

>>72511862
classic damnatio memoriae

>>72518646
Halfassed as it is, it's still something they can make a buck out of.

>https://twitter.com/Rosemi_Lovelock/status/1773728979846881739
Rosemi...

>>72519347
Deserved for chosing corpo over friends

>>72519347
LMAOOOOOOOO

>>72515524

>>72518646
It is, and it wasn't because of the Selen shokku.
Wonder why the last wave had almost no promotion? they're the last one before the merge.

>>72519347
100% negligible

>>72519347
Rosemi I'm losing respect for you if you decide to stick with that shithole

>>72519347
humiliation ritual

>>72519347
And sisters will continue to blame Selen

>>72519347
Why do they need to announce that a portion will be cutoff if it will be shown for the first time? Is it because it was shoddily edited, or livers only have so few solo performances (or none at all)?

>>72520081
They will probably just have a solo performance

>>72520081
I'm guessing the Obsydia group part is edited out

>>72514354
She did plenty of that as pomu as well

>>72512546
Unlike most of the EN people, the penguin is actually unable to escape. She only has a job because shes related to someone in the company lmao

>>72511862
This is gonna be slob isn't it? baka

>>72520081
The other waves will probably be performing group songs & skits together, but not Obsydia.

Rosemi girl why are you still there

>>72520081
Likely any Obsidya event and aftertalk got heavily cut. This will give them much less time and will be noticeable.
As for Rosemi this is the last excuse she could possiy have to stay. Finally the rosebuds will get the message she’s just a coward.

>>72520334
She chose corpo over her friends.

>>72520334
It takes time to process the graduation request, they're punishing her for wanting to leave.

>>72520335
>Finally the rosebuds will get the message
Rosefags are complete retards without a spine. If they didn't get the message in 3 years they won't get it now.

>>72520134
>>72520185
>>72520304

From a PR standpoint, it's really weird that Petra and Rosemi themselves said that, instead of including in the announcement poster.

>>72520081
I don't understand why Lazulight, Ethyria, and Luxiem aren't having the same issue.

>>72520489
I mean, that's how Nijisanji works. They use the livers as human shields.
>>72520526
Lazu and Ehyria recorded their parts knowing that Nina and Pomu wouldn't be in the concert. Luxiem probably had to rerecord some stuff.

>>72520489
>From a PR standpoint
Nijisanji uses it's livers account to make announcements that can be taken negatively.
>insert Elira image here

>>72520419
dragoon just straight up "fuck you niji we follow selen" these ppl have no excuses

>>72520335
>shes a coward for not saying anything about it like petra!!!!!1!
>she said something now shes a coward for staying!!!!
based retard, funny how no one cares about petra

>>72520489
>From a PR standpoint
>nijisanji
lol,lmao even

>>72520630
Only nips and ethyriatards care about Petra.

>>72520598
Pomu left this year.

>>72520624
>Selen leaves
>fuck you niji we follow selen
Yes, maybe when she leaves Rosebuds will follow her. For now she's in Nijisanji.

>>72520624
Rosemi's fans were always the odd ones out of the woo girls fans. They would rather /soc/fag in /nijien/ all day than watch Rosemi, and have went through 3 iterations of the /rose/ split because they are incapable of keeping it alive. Meanwhile dragoons succesfully migrated to /haha/ and currently pomudachis are squatting in /lazu/ before Pomu comes back and make their own general thread for her.

>>72520732
Sure, but she was in the graduation queue for a long, long while. At least May from last year.

>>72514740
Recent holo concerts have been on two streamig services too, anon.

>>72520792
Isn't this the delayed AR?

>>72520732
Yeah, this was originally announced in January of last year for release in April

>>72520630
Didn't she make a comment in her PL that shit was going down and she hated her current situation? I haven't heard anything like that from Rosemi

>>72520910
It is, but they cancelled the original one when they had only recorded the luxiem part. They recorded the rest over whole year.

>>72520973
Meant for
>>72520910

>>72521042
They had everyone go to Japan but only recorded Luxiem?

>>72520991
Nah that was fake

>>72521098
Correct.

>>72521146
Proof?

>>72521218
Exactly, there's no proof it was ever real.

>>72521161
So why didn't they re-record it while everyone was just in Japan?

>>72520784
True but come the fuck on. She has Harada batting for her and doesn’r ee stream Tekken but plays it offline, focusing instead on a game that is bringing her almost 2views.
You need a severe lack of spine to not leave while clearly you don’t want to mix with the clique. She’s literally alone in the company, what’s the point of staying?

>>72521042
...I honestly don't understand what's going on. The reused poster and the cutdown performances would make sense if they were reusing material they recorded for last year. Are you telling me that they a whole fucking year to properly plan this thing and they couldn't come up with anything better? Not even adding any new members to compensate for the ones who graduated?

>>72520764
>Yes, maybe when she leaves Rosebuds will follow her. For now she's in Nijisanji
no,maybe if those rosebuds actually her "FANS" not nijisanji fans,they should show her that they will support her out of black company,dragoon already did that,hell even sayu/zaion have a solid number of dedicated fans,shes pulling 4 view twitch and theres youtube,so no excuses.

>>72521341
>The study was busy
>Bad timing
>They didn't want to spend more money
Probably everything form above.
>Why didn't they just delay it then?
They need to show something for the Q4. This is probably their last chance of saving NijiEN.

>>72521341
Costs money

>>72521408
A lot of people were rosebuds until they realized she has no spine. Her remaining fans are probably just nijisanji fans.

>>72521357
That would require investment. Why do you think they tried to turdwrangle Selen to stay until she made it clear she was not gonna do it?
Imagine thinking they are releasing these things out of some goodwill. It’s all may content moved to April because otherwise the investors were gonna leave.
They only do stuff if money is involved. Let them get their fix and it’s back to the doing absolutely nothing.

>>72521349
>clearly you don’t want to mix with the clique. She’s literally alone in the company, what’s the point of staying?
Anon she's been in the clique for at least 2 years
2023 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjaqbgkk_xY
2022 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkeVCyWAH44
Notice how the ones ALWAYS missing from those "besties" offcollabs are Pomu and Selen?

>>72521568
wasnt she the only one who offcollabed with pomu and selen too? maybe she just gets along with everyone like doppio

>>72521527
A topic asking her to basically leave got to the top of the reddit easily with 2k likes, and that place bsrely gets 600 online people nowadays.
The grand majority of Rosebuds is waiting for her outside. But they will likely not wait forever unless she collabs with Doki right out the bat to prove she was a friend.

>>72521655
Anon, it is clear to everyone that she's a pushover. She has been a pushover for multiple lifetimes.

>>72516120
>Uses both sorcery and summons (the 2 blatant crutches)
>His build is still worse than the meme I used on my first run!
HE DOESN'T KNOW SHIT!

>>72516741
Anno I don't care about ESL and stupid shit like that but WTF did you just say?!

>>72520081
If you're looking for a cynical answer, we are seeing disgruntled talents throwing shade about an rushed 3D concert. Instead of recording new contents to fill in the cut portions, they're just going to air whatever the fuck is left on the chopping board. Because of the way this is done, some unlucky talents might be left with barely any showtime, hence their apology to fans in advance.

>>72518036
>>72518155
When has Selen empirically been proven to have lied about anything? Miguel has like a dozen counts to her name. For the record I gave her the benefit of the doubt as well for a bit, but you can only publicly fuck up so many times before fan trust evaporates. Selen has never been proven to have lied about anything and is still in a "he said she said"-off against a bunch of people who HAVE, so the scale should obviously lean in one direction over the other.

>>72520792
who is next in the queue?

>>72512546
She can have a job riding the SS MUH DICK! Being a housewife was understood to be a Full time job in the 1950s!

>>72511862
Reimu is blaming Selen btw
>>72524579

>>72512153
Don't talk about Petra like that.

>>72524646
KWAB

>>72524646
better clip that shit and put it on catbox as soon as she ends

>>72518805
At this point no lawyer will even attempt to sue, they can't prove that the damages they surfered weren't caused by their own PR mistakes rather than Doki's statements