/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>72432415
Based gifted-membership shitposter.

your parents have wasted 16 years on you

I forgot that I membered Finana for like 7 months @ $0.50 per month. So I guess I got scammed for like 4 bucks or whatever

>>72432415
Homobeggars deflection thread

>>72432544
bro, 2m on merch? you're buying way too much

>>72432415
wasted money on Kronii's first bday merch, it arrived days before her homo sperg arc. Wasted money on FWMC bday merch right before they betrayed EN fans and kicked us to the curb. I really need to stop buying shit, at this point Gura is the only one that hasn't betrayed me and made me regret my purchase. I'll take lazy shark over actual backstabbers any day.

>>72432972
Post proof or your mom will die tonight

>>72432972

>>72433015
I don't feel like digging up the screenshots on my PC, if miraculously this thread still exists tomorrow I will. Also jokes on you, she already was isekai'd into a skeleton warrior, undead can't die.

>>72432581
>I membered Finana
what a retard lmao

>>72432635
wtf are talking about? did the fuck boys flash their dicks again something? I never pay them attention cause I end up being disgusted by them

>>72432415
Careful, you'd be called a poorfag by chumcucks.

>>72432509
lol no I ended my monthly payment, retard

If I'm talking about wasting money, why would I be showing a gift membership? Think before you let the cum spill out from your mouth you cock gargling smooth brain

>>72433302
Or even better get called a NDF because their streamer don't even want to work at all

>>72433302
they're to busy fucking their body pillows while moaning for cunny to look up long enough to even realize she left

I don't regret the money I spent but I sure as hell won't be spending any more money on Gura

>>72432785
wait until he resells it and makes 5m

>>72432509
It's been over a month since her last stream, who gifted him while she wasn't streaming?

>>72433302
I live in a third world country and that amount of money is like pocket change to me, you are beyond poorfag at this point

>>72432509
fpbp

>>72433406
post your membership badge and sub time, poorfag

regardless, imagine bragging about saving 5 bucks lmao

>>72432415
member to ame for almost a year
almost bought her merch too, I'm so fucking glad I didn't

>>72433812
This is not about the amount of money.
I don't like losing even 1 dollar if I knew I was being scammed.

LMAO gura merch really broke pagpagsis mind

What are nijitrannies deflecting about now?

>>72432415
Yeah supers and quite a bit of membership to Gura, only for her to fuck off without having the decency to graduate. Gave a super to Kiara early before she started annoying the fuck out of me. That's about it for vtuber related regrets.

>>72433580
This for me. Gura for the first year or so with her almost weekly members karaokes was some of the best value in Hololive. But that Gura is long gone now and she's clearly not coming back.

Imagine whining about spending 5 bucks per month

can you imagine seething over a dude not giving money to a millionaire that is delivering no content

>>72435537
NTA but if Netflix stopped all content I wouldn't be paying for that either.

Hm do you guys thinks gura is pregenante?

>>72435829(me)
It would explain her numerous breaks and the contradiction that she doesn't have dedicated managers to do bts work with how much money she's bringing to hololive.

>>72435887(me)
Or does anyone have any experience at work having female coworkers to tell me I'm wrong.

>>72432415
This you brown cuck?

>>72432972
Shut the fuck up man pussy

>>72436075
He makes a point, why give money to a streamer who rarely streams?

>>72436075
But didn't him defending the company on that recent lando clip implying that hololive was bad even it out?

>>72435537
Give me five bucks a month for doing nothing, since you don't have a problem with it.

>>72436075
It's always baffling how these people make their way into hololive

>>72436140
Holodrones Nijidrones what's the fucking difference? They're all cocksuckers with the latter being the worst one possible.

>>72436130
t.poorfag

>>72436172
I'm with this Anon, you can spare five bucks for every dude in this thread, right? Chump change!

>>72436367
If being a poorfag means spending money on someone who does nothing then you clearly fit that definition.

>>72432415
>>72436281
this you?

>>72436459
Cope and seethe cosmobrown

>>72433616
Inspect Element.

>>72434511
learn what the world means. Gura never told you to purchase her membership or gave a spiel about why you had to give her money and it's has been almost 4 years at this point
this needs to be included before you can call it a scam https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1765910149519343938
besides, you pay to gain access to the archive and not necessarily new content

>>72436518
lol cry more broke bitch

>nijishits gets paid giftcards to defend shitsanji
>nostreambuds get the same pay as 4chan jannies

>>72432544
>Yeah? Well look at how much money she makes while pretending we don't exist. Bet you feel stupid now.
I've never understood why people make this argument. Are you happy that Gura only cares about money and has abandoned us? Do you think that her never spending any time with us makes her a good idol or a good streamer?
She doesn't care about us anymore. She hasn't for over a year. Why does how much money she makes the company matter to you or anybody that cares about her? This is like saying, "well she doesn't have to stream because she's a mascot now."
How the fuck can you possibly prefer that? You're basically saying that she never cared about you and so she doesn't stream because she has no desire to spend time with her fans.
That completely justifies OP dropping her.

t. rainbow trident that is still membered for some reason

>>72436075
i mean he's autistic as hell but also kinda based

>>72436863
>besides, you pay to gain access to the archive and not necessarily new content
Gura's membership perks specifically says that she will do member streams and announce them 24 hours before she does them. She used to do 4 a month. Now she doesn't even stream at all.
15 total streams in the last 223 days, btw.

>>72436130
5 bucks is not money though, making the effort of unsubscribing for that amount is like bending down to pick up 1 penny on the streets, like what's the point, you are just embarrassing yourself.
It's especially crungo when you post about it on 4ch like its an epic own though

Total number of streams over the 223 day period from August 18, 2023 to March 27, 2024:
FuwaMoco 276
Bijou 224
Mori 178
Bae 161
Nerissa 161
Shiori 147
Kiara 132
Fauna 102
Ina 94
Irys 82
Kronii 76
Mumei 71
Ame 58

Gura 15

>>72436075
This screenshot is a Rorschach Test for determining how much of a Holocuck someone is based on their response to it.

>>72437839
All those disgusting whores under 100 streams a year should be graduated
Half of them haven't even been in hololive as long as gura and they can't make the effort of streaming once every 4 days? ridiculous
Honestly if you aren't streaming even 3 days a week you aren't "working" everyone below 200 streams a year is literally not even working half a week for every week and should be graduated one and all

>>72432972
sure you did sis, always so much yapping and never showing.

>>72437831
This is probably one of the most retarded posts I've read in a while.
>5 dollars is not money
>5 dollars is one penny
If you're spending 60 dollars a year on multiple memberships, that adds up. But you're a poorfag SEAretard and so you don't even know how much that is.

>>72437921
this, although this is only in the last 223 days, which is when Gura disappeared for 5 months. Most of them will hit 100 streams in a year. Gura will be the only one who won't even reach half of that.

>>72437813
>Additional streams
yeah, in the form of archived vods. there's nothing wrong with the wording here

>>72437962
???????????????
If you can't member to EVERY SINGLE HOLOLIVE member (including jp/en/id) because it'd meaningfully affect your finances, sorry but you are a poorfag, and here you are complaining about 1(one(uno)) 5 dollar subscription?
Sorry buddy but you aren't a first worlder if you are complaining about 5 bucks it unironically, without a hint of a joke isn't money, most people spend 10x that amount every single day on just food

>>72438053
>in the form of archived vods.
That's not what it says and that's not what that has ever meant. You're a disengenous faggot for even trying to pretend that's what that means and you're completely aware of that.
Kill yourself, retard.

>>72437831
>refusing to give your money to someone who doesn't provide services in return is embarrassing yourself

>>72437839
comparing new gen to a legendary streamer who doesn't have to prove herself to anyone, who by the way did great at this year's fes and has been more active on twitter than she's been in a year + she did her first twitter space which was a great fan service.

if you didn't know, gura's fans appreciate the merch, and we appreciate her traveling around.

people with brains understand it is a seize the moment kind of thing with these sponsor deals, and that we'd all do the exact same gura is doing.

>>72437738
>"why are you eating shit anon?"
>-but its only 10 dollars
>"you are eating literal shit"
>-lmao youre poor
>"please stop eating shit anon"
>-fuck off poorfag nomnomnom
Shes like that albino whale nigaloo. A rare sighting, spotted occasionally - and people spend ungodly amounts of time and money to see it. Rather than leave it to chance. And in a way, because of all the commotion and attention, it is less likely to show itself than if it was left alone.

>>72438080
>most people spend 10x that amount every single day on just food
You're probably being sarcastic at this point. At least I hope you are.
But just in case you aren't. Post memberships.

>>72438131
You shouldn't give money to someone who doesn't provide services is true ofc, but like its a bit pathetic that you care about it so much that you actually make the effort of unsubscribing just for 5 bucks, you know that right? Oh no if i save this for 12 months i'll be able to buy 1 meal out of the 700 i have in a year, amazing deal so great, like...

>>72438151
Besides the merch announcement, Gura hasn't even talked to us in 10 days.
She doesn't give a shit about us, anon. Before the twitter space, she didn't stream or say anything for a fucking month,
No, WE do not appreciate this at all. She's being an ungrateful cunt.

>>72438120
yes it does you inbred retard. not everyone could catch a Gura stream live, therefore archived vods are the keynote here

>>72438080
>being so poor you think everything is about money

>>72432415
Buy the dip they said. Goldman Sachs said, "We are BUY-rated on ANYCOLOR." I got fucked.
Sisters, pls buy Anycolor so can recover.

>>72438199
>>72438398
ACTUAL shitskin spotted, holy shit people weren't joking when they said this board was infested with pagpags, no wonder you people are penny pinching over 1 fucking subscription, like you do realise that a chumbud that buys 1 merch item pays several times their annual membership right? Oh no muh 60 YEARLY dollars is not 100% worth it according to a random shitskin in the internet oh nooooooo, the fact that you care this much about this is actually crazy, fucking poors man

>>72438365
Again, newfag. She used to do 4 members streams a month. Then she stopped doing them as frequently, and now she doesn't even do public streams.
You're a brown larping faggot. I bet you aren't even membered to her.
Membership has never been about access to the archive of past streams. That is a convenience to members because yes, many aren't able to make them live. However many of Gura's membership streams are unarchived karaokes, so that defeats your entire retarded argument in one swift kick to your castrated testicles.

>>72438476
post memberships, liar.

>>72438552
post your monthly interest gains first shitskin, i better not see anything under 1k or i am going to laugh real fucking hard

August
>"Actions speak louder than words", "I want to do better for you", "plotting..."
>Disappears for 3 weeks. No communication.

September
>comes back for an outfit reveal stream she didn't even bother tweeting about and a mandated anniversary stream she half asses where she's exhausted and out of it
>Please give me more money for anniversary merch
>Disappears for 2 months, No communciation.

November
>"horf horf horf guess who forgot they were a streamer"
>comes back for two collabs on other people's channels
>Please give me more money for random merch announcements
>Disappears for another month. No communication.

December
>comes back to shill Sendai sponsorship
>won't say why she ignored us or why she didn't stream other than "felt a little burnt out"
>doesn't even say she missed us
>doesn't say when she'll be back or when we can see her again
>PLEASE GO TO JAPAN AND GIVE ME MORE MONEY
>Disappears for another month. No communication.

January
>ghosted her genmates
>was the only member in all of hololive to not say anything to her fans for Christmas or New Year's.
>participates in the myth lethal company collab, but is the only one to not stream her POV. Streams it to discord instead for the other girls to watch so she can avoid her fans in chat
>won't say why she's been gone other than this time it's vague "personal issues"
>"thanks for being patient. I want to come back for my myth girls"
>Please give me more money for yet more random merch announcements
>Disappears again for another month. No communication.

February
>barely comes back for February. Streams 11 times, the most she's streamed in half a year.
>streams for a single hour on Valentines's day afternoon so she can have the rest of the night free. Is really happy and excited for some reason.
>says members will get a surprise on Saturday. It's a public karaoke instead.
>fucks off again immediately after Valentines week.
>says she's worried about upcoming traveling for fes and expo
>everyone else streams and talks to their fans while she disappears again
>Announces sushiro collab
>PLEASE GO TO TAIWAN AND GIVE ME MORE MONEY
>Disappears for 3 weeks. No Communication

March
>Weekend before fes, Mori and Kiara reveal that none of ENs are in Japan yet, meaning Gura had been doing something else for three weeks
>shows up late for the myth off-collab because of "scheduling issues"
>14 minute twitter space because she knew it would look bad if she was the only one that didn't say anything to their fans about fes
>won't say when we can see her again
>is the only member to not tell their fans that they got back home
>Disappearance ongoing. No communication.
>Announces $675 of cheap Chinese crap

Gura's a bad person. There's no other word for it.
She's ungrateful. She's manipulative. She doesn't care about anyone but herself.
There were never any personal issues and she never had any health problems. There were no mental hangups or bouts of anxiety.
She's a grifting, opportunistic liar that wants everyone to think she cares about them while she's away having fun and only comes back to ask us for more cash. The only time she makes any effort or does any work at all is if it's something that will make her lots of money.
She's worse than any twitch whore because at least they pretend to like their fans. Gura couldn't care less about us.

OP is a weak person and lousy supporter. All VTubers should be wary of fans like him.

He only wants to support you when you're down, when you've reach a point where you can actually do special stuff, he unsubs and whines about your success and how busy you are on vt like a loser.

>>72438476
Not a shitskin, not that youd believe it - and frankly i dont care too much.
Its just entertaining that we have a genuine American here with petty mercantile semitic aspirations and motivations. The true archetype. To quote another anon:
>"why are you eating shit anon?"
>-but its only 10 dollars
>"you are eating literal shit"
>-lmao youre poor
>"please stop eating shit anon"
>-fuck off poorfag nomnomnom
All they have to do is keep throwing it into your trough. Nomnom away American :D

>>72438552
No answer to this lmao>>72438599
Surely you aren't spending time watching vtubers when you are THIS FUCKING POOR are you? fucking disgraceful, you know you could be working harder right? instead of making more money you are out here shitposting for free, while you eat literal trash out of the back of restaurants and then go on the internet to moan about pennies, truly it couldn't be me

>>72438765
your larp isn't going to work, retard
lmao, you can't even post memberships

>>72438516
>bunch of schzio headcanons
I love arguing with strangers on the internet
>unarchived karaokes
she always expresses the feelings of regret when she does an unarchive stream which invalidates your point
>I bet you aren't even membered to her.
hahaha thanks for the laugh

>>72438767
>going through the effort of unsubbing is not worth 5 bucks
>LE YOU WANT TO EAT SHIT
Not a shitskin but fucking obsessed with eating shit huh? Yeah...

>>72438080
>If you can't member to EVERY SINGLE HOLOLIVE member (including jp/en/id) because it'd meaningfully affect your finances, sorry but you are a poorfag
What about opportunity cost? Average American have less than $1000 in savings.
Wasting $350(70*5) every month when you can invest the same amount of money on Index ETF (which will yield 10% annually) would affect my or your finance in meaningful way.

Notice how all of the posts in defense of Gura are literallt just
>lol your poor! Your a third wolder!
With no actual substance or reasoning.
Meanwhile
>>72438603
Provides actual facts about the reality of the situation and I can already see that chumbuds are either going to ignore or going to respond with completely vapid, meaningless posts that contain no arguments because they have none except
>ur poor lol!
Chumbuds are really pathetic.

>>72438830
>le

>>72438880
Got mad noone was responding to your post so you decided to reply to yourself? Holoans not beating the pathetic allegations

>>72438765
Let's pretend you're rich for just a second (you're not, in fact there's no way you're even from a developed nation), explain to me why anyone would donate to a whore who won't even pretend to like you. Why is that even worth 5 dollars? Would you pay 5 dollars a month to a homeless black man that broke into your home and demanded it? Would you donate 5 dollars a month to an activist group like sweet baby inc. or something similar? Would you donate 5 dollars to vshojo or niji whores?
Why would you insult someone cutting off a lying, manipulative whore from his bank account, no matter how small the donation. You sound like whipped cuck.

>>72432972
Women are gold diggers, retard.

>>72438880
I'm pretty sure it's a larping falseflagger trying to make chumbuds look really, really stupid.
No one is actually dumb enough to suggest you should be membered to every member of hololive. Also, he's not even a hololive fan because he forgot the main channel also has a monthy membership.

This dude pre ordered some merch a year ago and still hasn't got it the order status already changed to fulfilled lmao
https://x.com/ZeroKanao/status/1767841054915711357?s=20

>>72438847
>Average American
is not going to be wasting time watching vtubers, neither should they be.
If you subscribe to every single hololive then yes its obviously going to be much more expensive than just 4-5 membs, and obviously you could just be investing that instead but what I meant with "meaningfully" was having to sacrifice any QOL for it not in terms of compounding interest.
Still I reckon the average first world hololive fan could easily afford membership for all hololive members (or at the very least hololive english)

>>72439098
You should support lying whores and if you don't, you must be poor
>>72438976

>>72438976
>talking about gura being a whore
Pack it up boys he's totally not a holoan he's 100% a fan arguing from a position of trying to help fellow hololive fans yep
Listen, if you haven't understood it by this point there's no point arguing as you are too stupid, and if you have and are just raging about being poor because you are a holoan then there's no point to pretend to argue in good faith now is there?

>>72439160
>>72438976
>support
It's 5 dollars
Like I swear you are acting as if someone offered you 5k to get fucked in the ass you'd take the offer
>BUT ITS FREE MONEY I COULD BUY SO MUCH PAGPAG WITH THAT
Honestly I would actually understand you taking that offer more than arguing this fervently for 5 dollars on the internet

>>72439195
I call her a whore because she obviously is one. Why else would she be doing this to us so often?
Who do you think she went to Taiwan with, retard? You think she spent the entire week sightseeing with her manager?

>>72438908
>post filled with holoans bashing gura for literally no reason and schizo posting
>gets triggered by one word
>ALL CHUMBUDS FAULT THAT I AM IN A WHEELCHAIR AND MY WIFE LEFT ME REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>72439261
>it's 5 dollars
And that's above zero, which is still more than she deserves
I say this as a rainbow trident that's fed up with her bullshit and leaving us in the dark about everything so often. Why should I give literally anything to someone who cares about her fans as little as Gura does? I don't care if it's 1 fucking cent. It's the principle of supporting a liar that treats fans like dogshit.

>>72438151
>has been more active on twitter than she's been in a year
This isn't the epic clapback you think it is kek.

>>72439392
It's such a small amount of money that if you hate gura that much i think it'd be more proof that you don't care about her if you just forgot that it even existed. You seethe posting about "HA TAKE THAT WHORE YOUR 5 DOLLARS ARE GONE" when she has literally made 2.5 mil from 1 single taiwan collab doesn't make you an alpha male that supports no whores it makes you a sad pathetic cuckling that not only is pathetic for not having a significant other but that is poor to the point you HAVE to account for every single dollar that you spend.
I haven't gone to the gym in well over half a year due to work and i pay $55 monthly for it, and I guarantee it that millions of americans are in the exact same position, but go ahead and post about how you aren't a shitskin

>>72438603
LMAO, you painstakingly wrote all of this just to hate someone? Anon, you need a life! AHAHAHHAHAHAHA

>>72439527
>It's such a small amount of money
What part of this don't you understand, retard? There's no possible way you are wealthy in any metric if you are this unbelievably stupid.
It has nothing to do with the amount of money.
If a man came up to you and offered to shit in your mouth for 5 dollars, you'd take that deal and say, "well, it's only 5 dollars".
I, on the other hand, would turn it down because I don't want shit in my mouth.

>>72438603
Based anon. Notice how all the faggots went quiet because they can't deny it kek.

>>72439597
It's even worse, he got so mad his effort post wasn't even getting read that he had to reply to himself>>72438880
AND he even predicted that he was going to get replied to with
> going to respond with completely vapid, meaningless posts
But in fact what happened was that no one actually replied to it at all lmao

>>72438976
>explain to me why anyone would donate to a whore who won't even pretend to like you
this is a subjective matter
>Why would you insult someone cutting off a lying, manipulative whore from his bank account, no matter how small the donation
generously assuming they're not falseflaggers (hell, I'm even playing into your hands here), the problem is that those people are hypocrites since a plethora of holo whores be like that, those girls even utilize various tactics in order to achieve the goals (as opposed to Gura) which makes them worse by nature
and some of them even judge you for nor supporting them
>"sub to me I need xxx"
>"buy my membership"
>"I need money for xxx"
>"buy my album"
>*baits for superchats*

what makes these talentless whores better?

>>72439634
>if a man came up to you and offered to shit in your mouth for 5 dollars, you'd take that deal and say, "well, it's only 5 dollars".
It's actually the opposite retard, learn to read
My entire point is that you shouldn't humiliate yourself for 5 bucks as that is nothing while you whine and shitpost about how you would
i am arguing that if you hate gura you wouldn't even go to the effort of unsubbing for just 5 bucks while you say
>YOU SHOULD EAT SHIT TO EPICALLY OWN GURA SHE DESERVES IT FOR BEING A WHORE AND 5 BUCKS WOULD BUY SO MUCH PAG PAG
You are a sad poor little man

>>72439656
>samefagging
It's not.
I wouldn't call all chumbuds pathetic like that poster. There are still chumbuds like OP and myself who are willing to call her out on how she treats us like dogshit.

>>72439773
Have you considered she treats you like dogshit because you are so pathetic?
Maybe if you had money
Maybe if you had white skin
Maybe if you weren't such a small manlet
Maybe then you wouldn't hate your life, but as it stands i'm pretty sure no one would care if you kys

>>72438476
I'm white as a fucking ghost and I wouldn't pay five bucks a month for literally nothing. Your insecurity about your status (I-I'm not p-poor!) And projection is blatantly obvious, if you were white you'd have both standards and pride enough to know that feeding a leech is beneath you. Stop handing money to someone that doesn't earn it and doesn't need it.

>>72439826
Even if any of that was true about me (it's not), she would treat me the exact same way as all her other fans and that includes subhuman cum-felching queers such as yourself.
She treats her antis exactly the same way as she treats her fans. She doesn't stream for either.

>>72439977
Read >>72439826 until you internalize it
>>72439980
I know that none of those are true for you, that's why I said that if those were true she wouldn't treat you like shit
>she would treat me the exact same way
You wouldn't know that as you are a shitskin, poorfag, holoan

>>72438603
I don't follow Gura, but isn't the "please give me money for X" portion an exaggeration? I feel like I caught 1-2 of those streams mentioned (like the Lethal Company collab), and I don't remember her plugging for shit at the end.

Call her out all you like for the lack of effort and streaming, but accusing her of constantly plugging a need for money seems disingenuous. It just takes away from the critique if you insert falsehoods like that, unless I'm missing something.

>>72440075
>he actually read the 15 page holoan shitpost
NGMI

>>72432415
This thread got so fuckin out of hand. Cancelling Membership is UNDERSTANDABLE, why cant you chumbuds understand that?

The thing is, Yagoo wants Cover to be the next Disney, which is already happening now.
Cover = Disney
Gura = Ironman

Ironman is way past creating movies, but still the most profitable and recognized in terms of merch IP.

Same as gura doesn't need to stream everyday anymore, her appearance is already money-milker.

TIL that gura antis are poor shitskins that love pretending that they have a life and totally aren't scrambling for pennies every month because instead of working for money they spend their life shitposting online
Huh

gura never fishes for supas, never asks for subs or members,never does sing until certain milestone, never sells her crude drawings live on stream etc

forgetting a membership is ops fault

>>72440049
Man you are just absolutely furious, aren't you? She doesn't treat me like anything because I don't watch her any more, tard. I did when she streamed, back in the day, and then she stopped, and I moved on. But once more, proving your projection. I'm whiter than you will literally ever be, and there is nothing you can do about that.

>>72440075
You're correct that most of those weren't explicitly her asking for money, however that's literally what it is anytime she announces merch or a collab/sponsorship.
The times in between were months where she didn't talk to us at all, but her or her manager kept tweeting out announcements about new merch that was available. The most recent one was especially egregious and reprehensible, considering that it's $675 and the prices for foreigners (the majority of her fans) is 33% more expensive than for Japanese customers. The price of the watch is $230 US, but only $160 dollars in yen. There is no reason for this because foreigners still pay for shipping.
And after her 5 month disappearance where she pretended we didn't exist, it's completely tone deaf to release yet another announcement in the middle of another period of her ghosting us which is already up to 10 days.
It's been 40 days since her last stream, by the way.

>>72440202
Canceling membership is understandable (although a tiny bit pathetic because you are doing it out of it not being worth your 5 dollars and not because she actually acted like a whore on stream or fucked up her kayfabe)
Posting about it online as an epic own? Thats fucking PATHETIC AS SHIT, surely you understand why right? It's not like gura is going to read this "feedback" so you are literally just posting about how you "pwned" someone by having given her money until just 2 seconds ago, just keep that shit to yourself or at least don't be suprised when people act like you are a leper

>>72440264
>gura never fishes for supas, never asks for subs or members,never does sing until certain milestone, never sells her crude drawings live on stream etc
All her actions indicate that she's rich and so she doesn't give a shit about super chats or memberships. Getting $35 from an aka supa is basically nothing to her when she has millions and the effort of streaming isn't worth making a couple thousand per 3 hour stream when she can just do nothing and continue to make hundreds of thousands a month passively.

The only time she comes back and does anything is when she's either making tons of money for a sponsorship or because it's crucial to her channel and being in hololive.
So she came back for Sendai. She put in work for Sushiro. She streamed a bit in February so she wouldn't be the only one skipping Valentines.
She won't ever come back unless there's something to gain or because she has to in order to make it appear she still has the most bottom level of appreciation for her fans.

So no. The only thing Gura cares about is money, but because she has so much already, she only comes back if she can make a large amount of it. She sees no value in coming back just for her fans. That's why she doesn't stream anymore.
She's a manipulative, lying grifter, and that's all she is.

>>72440283
>moved on
Yeah

>>72440373
I talk shit in lots of threads, and I'm sure you do, too.

>>72440336
>or fucked up her kayfabe
You're a fucking cuck. Kill yourself.

>>72440336
yeah, OP is on another level of pathetic, that's for sure

>>72440202
>Same as gura doesn't need to stream everyday anymore, her appearance is already money-milker.
Great. You're saying that she doesn't stream because she doesn't give a shit about her fans. If she did, she would still want to spend time with them.
You're saying that she's completely motivated by money and therefore has no desire to spend time with her fans at all, which is why she is never around.
So we agree, then.

>>72440397
Yeah but i sure don't post that i've moved on because i certainly haven't if i'm still arguing about it shitskin
Anyway>>72440427 like anon said, there's no point in talking about this anymore, it's clear that everyone shitposting her is a disgusting brownoid

Amount of butthurt chumcucks in this thread is incredible, good job OP.

>>72440336
>or fucked up her kayfabe
You understand what you're implying by that, right?
You understand you're saying that you're a cuck, but it's okay as long as you don't find out.
Guess what, retard? If you really think that's what she's doing off-stream, then it pretty much explains all of her disappearances and why she no longer seems to care about her fans, so that's "breaking kayfabe" anyway and you're fucked either way.

>>72438603
The only reason she's consistently pulling off the same con over and over again is because people keep throwing money at her. The only way to break this never-ending cycle is to boycot her merch but of course there's no way that's ever gonna happen. Chumbies gonna consoom and will always consoom until the end of time. It's over for you guys 2 years ago. The chumbud ATM machine is self-sustaining.

>>72440507
>she doesn't give a shit about her fans. If she did, she would still want to spend time with them
saying this as Gura is still inactive, very fair point anon. I also believe you that she will be gone forever, this time for sure

>>72440616
shitskins and not being able to read, classic combo
What I implied is that she didn't break kayfabe like many other vtubers have so you don't even have that excuse for shitting on her
What i am not implying (fucking cuckminded shitskins) is that she has to even have a kayfabe to begin with because "shes a whore" or whatever sad pathetic cope you have swimming in your cuckling mind

>>72440689
>>72437839

>>72433406
You're not fooling anyone brown ape, post skin

>>72440693
What a pathetic attempt at trying to save yourself from your own words.
You said that she hasn't "broken kayfabe". Everyone knows what you fucking mean by that. Everyone knows your type around here.

>>72440675
At least Gura never judges me for anything, even someone like Pekora gets angry at chat from time to time for backseating, meanwhile my Goob: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vldG5PtM44&t=2024s

also Gura merch are valuable if you haven't noticed it yet, it's in the same level as Pokemon and Hello Kitty merch at this point

>>72440701
you can stream and don't think much about anything at all, just let the time fly. anyone can do that, any e-girl on twitch can do that

>>72440950
value is irrelevant. she doesn't give a shit about her fans. Saying you collect her merch as an investment is the saddest fucking cope I've seen.
Merch is supposed to be a way for fans to support their oshi. It's not supposed to be a brand or investment opportunity. What a soulless argument.

>>72440947
>You said that she hasn't "broken kayfabe"
First of all that's literally not what i said chimp
Secondly:
> you are doing it out of it not being worth your 5 dollars and not because she actually acted like a whore on stream or fucked up her kayfabe
learn how to read, this is a text only medium, if you can't read there's nothing I can do to help you
The only way that what you said makes sense is if i also "implied" that she has "acted like a whore on stream" which is obviously false, so this "fucked up her kayfabe" is also obviously false

>Gura's fans made her so successful, that she doesn't even have to care about or think about them anymore and can just live her life happily without them, which she chooses to do. And that's a good thing.
This will always be the most braindead, retarded response I see to threads like this. It's incredible that you're brain is even capable of remembering to breathe air.

>>72441136
she fucked up the "kayfabe" of caring about her fans. She clearly doesn't give a single shit about chumbuds or spending time with us.

>>72441050
>value is irrelevant.
tell that to those people that purchase Hello Kitty or Pokemon merch

>>72432415
>>72438908
>>72440202
>>72440507
Sisters are really busy trying to make a Holo yab stick though Gura huh?

>>72441263
>Saying you collect her merch as an investment is the saddest fucking cope I've seen.
>Merch is supposed to be a way for fans to support their oshi. It's not supposed to be a brand or investment opportunity. What a soulless argument.

>>72441163
>Gura's fans made her so successful, that she doesn't even have to care about or think about them anymore and can just live her life happily without them
>this will always be the most braindead, retarded response
Yeah i'll never understand why they think that gura doesn't care about them when she's only where she is because of her fans and she says that every single time she's live
She hasn't been streaming much lately due to irl problems but everytime she's on it feels just like the good old times and you can always tell she loves us
Just goes to show that these retards are obvious holoans

>>72440947
not that guy and largely not going to read this thread, but yeah, this is the "unicorn" stance, we want to be respected on stream, we want the medium to be what it obviously is and not descend into fake clout shit. that's the way toward a flooded market and it's already happening, how many girlbosses do you think the system can actually handle? I know you want us culturally homeless as the trans strategy dictates but companies have already noticed girlboss shit. it doesn't matter how many girls you trick into thinking it's okay to be a bitch, some other girl will figure out you can make stacks by not being a bitch and start doing it.

>but if we destroy every well-funded attempt we can king of the hill them until timeout
which would be a good strategy if you could get a single solid kill, meanwhile your best attempts result in everything from immortal and unquestionable Punished Gura to dokibird

>>72441305
how can you even feel the need to support Hello Kitty the character and Pokemon the manga in the first place

I don't get this thread.
Youtube memberships have regional pricing.
In my country memberships cost only 1.9$ in American dollar equivalent.
So no matter WHAT country you're in, you're literally acting like a poorfag that's whining about some chump change.
Not a single one of the retards in this thread mentioned it, so I can only assume every single one of you is a greynigger.

>>72441503
lmao great fucking point actually, isn't it like peru where you can get membs for literal cents? I was talking about 5 bucks being pennies but if you use a vpn isn't it LITERALLY pennies? jesus christ it just makes it even more absurd

>>72441341
Fucking whoosh.
You missed the last part, retard. That argument is made by a select number of retarded chumbuds that use her success as some kind of banner to wave against anyone suggesting she doesn't give a shit about us. Why does her being successful matter to you when she deliberately fucks off for months with zero communication?
You think you get to share her success as she lives her life entirely separate from her fans and doesn't include us or share anything about herself with us whatsoever? Are you fucking retarded?
Saying "she doesn't need to care about me, so it's a good thing she doesn't" is the saddest shit imaginable as someone who claims to be her fan.

>>72441341
>ESL shitskin LARPing as white and calling others holoans
Roru, Rumao even

>>72441586
Don't fucking put words in my >>72441163 mouth, >>72441341 anon understood what I meant

>>72438603
When did the mori party happen? Did it happen before the numerous hiatus? And we're there collabs done afterwards?

>>72441410
NO, you absolute fucking retard. That is NOT the unicorn stance. The unicorn stance is that she shouldn't collab with males, but she better not have a fucking boyfriend or be hiding shit off-stream either.
You're a fucking newfag tourist and HOW FUCKING DARE YOU confuse your cucked mindset with actual unicorn fans. You are a pathetic worm who'd be okay with being cucked as long as you don't know about it and it happens behind your back.
Don't EVER compare me to you. Kill yourself, you tourist vermin gutter trash.

>>72441444
neither of those things are an actual real person. They are brands. Gura is not a brand. She is a real person and an idol, or at least she claims to be one.
Your analogy is retarded.

>>72442020
gura is a shark, she's not a person, she doesn't have human rights and i keep her in my basement
His analogy is valid

>>72441731
So you are fucking retarded.
I wrote >>72441163
I was calling out people like you who bring up how successful Gura is, like in >>72432544, as a retort against people who say she doesn't care about us.
Then you agreed with my post because you misunderstood it as me saying that people who say she doesn't care about us are wrong.
You're an illiterate monkey.

>>72442242
>posts proof that i wrote it
>NAH IT WAS ACTUALLY ME YOU CAN'T READ
Stupid nog, read >>72441163 and this anon's reply if you don't get it >>72441341

>>72441546
The tone of most of these posts indicates their actual issue anyway.
It's jealousy that she gets so much love, support and financial help from her fans while they get absolutely NONE of that in real life, from, their own family or friend circles.
It's a 70-30 ratio of jealous sisters and jealous wagies, and even outside of this place you can see comments like pic rel getting heavy upvotes, which indicates what they're mad about.

And honestly, there IS some amount of unfairness to it, but tough shit, the world IS unfair. These retards just have no avenue of shitting on their boss or CEO or random rich guy that they know because most of the times they're not public figures, and there'll be consequences if you do that shit on main. And whining about them doesn't really do any harm to them because again, they're not public figures.

But chuubas are a lot more vulnerable. Many have shown vulnerability to harassment and there's been a lot of times that spam and shitposting have had actual impact on chuuba careers, either making them leave, or making them do something stupid.
It's just not who Gura is though.
She toes the line perfectly well.
She never outright tells you to member, or not member, or anything really, other that just announcing that she has corpo merch, which is more of an obligation.
It's all up to you whether you want to buy any of it or not.
And she never EVER shits on her audience, outside the usual audience banter.
THAT'S why people still give her money.
She's nice to her audience.
That's literally all it takes.
So many streamers and internet celebs fail this simple test.

>>72442297
What the ever loving fuck are you babbling about, you stupid chimp?
You fucked up. You can't read. You're a retarded shit-eating moron.

>>72442332
Most sane poster in this thread, Gura has literally done nothing wrong in her entire career. You can argue that you want her to stream more but its psychotic to act as if she's a whore because she doesn't stream or that she owes you anything because you bought her membership. You buy her membership if you want to and you leave if you want to, don't rage in the internet for something you have complete control over. Truth of the matter is that gura still is one of the best vtubers in the en scene right now and if you feel the need to seethe post like this thread its blatantly clear that you are a hololive anti

>>72442526
You aren't slick editing screenshots, braindead retard, not engaging with you anymore

>>72442332
>>72442689
There is no place for a grifting, lying, manipulative whore who only pretends to care about her fans and leads them on for years only to abandon them at every opportunity.
If that is what Gura is, then it is imperative that she graduate in order to keep such disgusting trash out of hololive. And if true, then hopefully even worse happens to her.

>>72433259
It's a Gura deflection reply, newfags like that anon don't remember the dark days of HoloEN where nobody fucking streamed and XSoleil seemed like they had a chance in /vt/.

>>72442774
I'm not even sure which post you're pretending to be.
Are you pretending to have written >>72441163? Do you realize that "And that's a good thing" at the end of that quote shows that the intention of that post was to mcok people saying that it's a good thing that Gura lives her life away from her fans?
Are you really so stupid that you'd pretend to have written my post and agreed with it when it's a post that contradicts your own behavior in this thread?

>>72433259
Probably they and other small corpos can't go a day without fucking up it wouldn't suprise me if they were trying to deflect to boring gura bait

>>72439766
>i am arguing that if you hate gura you wouldn't even go to the effort of unsubbing for just 5 bucks
NTA, but how does that make any sense? You're saying that if I hate someone I should continue to financially support them forever? Fuck off, if I hate someone I don't want to give them any type of support especially not financial

>>72440545
God you're an insufferable faggot. My ancestors literally fought to keep monkeys like you in the fields where you belonged. You know that conspicuous spending and flaunting how much you totally don't care about how much money you're flushing down the toilet is a black thing, right? It's a way of signalling status to the other low class belligerents. You may, POSSIBLY, have white skin, but your soul is blacker than a Nigerian.

>>72440950
>At least Gura never judges me for anything
Of course she won't judge the fans who keep throwing money at her after being ghosted for months on end.

>>72442332
>>72442689
They creative a false narrative by saying she is getting paid for nothing though. Gura is getting paid for the collabs and promotional stuff she does outside of just the streams. Ex: her work as the Tokyo ambassador and Taiwan outreach. Her brand potential took time to make and is build on her relationship with her fans. If her fans didn't like her they wouldn't support her. Those post also ignore that Gura had poured a lot of money back into animation, amv, mv, 3D shows.

If they are mad Gura gets paid "good shit" for not doing hourly wage work they do. Then that is a sociality problem and not a Gura one.

>>72443408
>they are mad Gura gets paid "good shit" for not doing hourly wage work they do
No, pretty sure they're mad that they aren't getting the entertainment they paid for.

>>72442774
>editing screenshots
You realize that 4chanX allows you to change any post to being your own locally, correct? We all know how that works, retard.
So if you're really going to pretend to have written my post in order to claim I meant something different, then you'll have to explain why it completely contradicts your entire argument that you've been making this entire thread.

In the non quoted part, I called the quoted part a "response". It's because I was saying anyone who said shit like in the quoted part in response to someone criticizing Gura a fucking moron.
The quoted part is someone bringing up her success and ability to disappear and abandon her fans as somehow showing how superior she is at making money for Cover, implying it's okay that she abandons her fans. That's why it says "And that's a good thing" at the end.

You're a fucking retard that made a mistake in >>72441341 and agreed with my post in error because you misunderstood it and now you're trolling and claiming it as your own in order to save face. Kill yourself, you subhuman shit-eating slant fuck.

>>72443202
I thought he was a falseflagger, but after reading this thread, it really seems like he actually is that autistic.

>>72443549
Nice straw man. Bet you were complaining about content during Holofest.

>>72443549
>eternal seethers
>actually watching anyone
Seething is their oshi.

>>72443408
Is the same thing with kizuna ai happening again? with just there being no skinwalkers and replacers just other holotalents to hold the fort.

>>72440283
>>72440397
>>72443274
>random race seethe
So you're like 13 and drank the online kool aid then? If you're not falseflagging then supporting Gura is just some white power surface shit then.

>>72432415
>Buy membership for $5
>Cancel membership
>Take Screenshot
>Collect Steam Gift Cards from NDF
Easy money, well done Sister

>>72443549
Personally, I'm upset that she lied and pretended to love us, only to abandon us over and over and over again while fabricating a myriad of different excuses and never even trying to improve after years of promising she would.
It's recently become clear what the real reason is. I really can't forgive her.

>>72437924
>>72433015
Here you go faggots, wasted money. I really should ebay this crap, maybe when the Fuwamoco stuff comes in I'll do it as a full lot. I have Watson's first bday pillow too I never opened, toss that sucker in there.

>>72440397
>admitting to being a fucking loser

>>72444088
kek, forgot to put the file. NOW. Here you go faggots.

>>72443773
Seems like no matter how much work Gura puts into something or how amazing the content it gets memory holed after a week by the same people who plug in their anti scripts. It doesn't help that there is ALOT of motive to take Gura down even admitted by other idols.

>>72443901
NTA, and that anon is a retard. But I will never support you people either.
https://files.catbox.moe/hv7mmy.webm

>>72433406
THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO....

>>72440693
It's easy to maintain kayfabe when you keep public appearances to a minimum so the mask doesn't slip.

>>72444074
I think you need these. Your mask isn't as good as you think it is.

>>72443549
Her streams are 99% public you fucking dumbass. And she also has 2 years worth of backlog to watch if you just want "entertainment" without paying a single fucking cent.
Fucking disingenuous pieces of shit.

>>72444171
>no matter how much work Gura puts into something
Fucking lmao
>or how amazing the content
The ASMR stream was good, but it doesn't justify treating us like garbage both before and after.
Reminder that it was only one hour on valentine's day afternoon, leaving her night, for which she was excited for some reason, completely free.

>>72443549
Reddit shitskins like you should be knelt down in a ditch and shot in the back of the head.

>>72444281
the funniest(saddest) part is when retards like you actually believed the sunburn bullshit.
at least she stopped attempting to make fake excuses after that because most people could see through it.

>>72444394
ironic. the only one who would ceaselessly be upvoted on that site here is you, retard.

>>72444171
Its like anon said>>72442689
>Truth of the matter is that gura still is one of the best vtubers in the en scene right now
The only thing people can point as a problem when discussing gura is that she doesn't stream more.
That's it
Its hilarious how everyone else either has so much drama around them, shits on their fans, publicly get boyfriends, tries to scam them out of their money as much as possible or announces at every opportunity that they hate them (live on stream directly announcing that they hate their fans), but for gura it's just that they want to see her more.
But because that sounds absurd they try extrapolating to those other things like "she's a whore", "she's a grifter", "no one should support her", "we're just informing her fans", etc, but you never actually see them post shit like that against people that literally publicly do the sort of shit that they schizopost that gura does. Despite in 4 years there being 0 proof of those things, and plenty of the opposite. I sure wonder why. Surely it's not because they don't actually care about those "moral values" and just want to shit on popular thing at all costs

imagine being a chumkek in 2024 after all her obvious bs excuses and still defending her on 4chin hahahahahhah
yeah she just set her location to sweden in VPN pffffajahahhaha

>>72432972
Gura betrayed you more the fuwamoco did. They at least stream somewhat. Gura doesn't at all. Who the fuck knows where in the world she is. She could be in the US, Japan, Sweden you don't know. That's more of a cuckening than Fuwamoco could do.

>>72444335
Fine I'll bite the straw:
- How do you personally know her content doesn't require work?
- why was that ASMR good for you?
- how did Gura treat you (as you can only speak for yourself) like garbage?
- why are you focus on valentine's day when there were other contents before and after unrelated to Valentine's day?

>>72437831
if its nothing then she wont miss it

>>72442332
Don't mistake being polite for being nice. She only does the bare minimum when shilling merch because loyal chumbuds will keep buying them, and she doesn't elaborate on her absence so they'll continue believing in their own cope.

>>72444733
She won't, but there's still 0 need to shit up the board with posts like this and you should call out fag ops as much as you can

>>72439597
hi enna

>>72444682
>How do you personally know her content doesn't require work?
what content? she's streamed 15 times in the last 223 days
>why was that ASMR good for you?
because I still thought she loved us and it made me feel closer to her
>how did Gura treat you (as you can only speak for yourself) like garbage?
she abandons us again and again while making up excuses to spend time with us, however now she doesn't even bother making up excuses anymore
>why are you focus on valentine's day when there were other contents before and after unrelated to Valentine's day?
because I felt like I was left with nothing for the rest of the night while everyone else's oshi was streaming for them the entire night. She said she was really happy and excited but then only spent an hour with us. She only ate a single slice of pizza all day, so it seems like she was going to dinner afterwards or something. There's no reason she couldn't have streamed later that evening, but she didn't. It's incredibly suspicious.

>>72445030
>while making up excuses to *not* spend time with us

>>72445030
Hmmm how do you feel about using an ai chatbot gura would it feel the same or nah?

>>72445230
I wish that was a viable alternative, but AI chatbots mean nothing to me. AI can't replace the feeling of talking to or listening to a real peson. And nothing could ever replace her.

>>72444511
>you never actually see them post shit like that against people that literally publicly do the sort of shit that they schizopost that gura does
Yep it's the easiest way to know these people are full of shit. Mumei literally put the same hiatus, no reason as to why, gone for months. Mumei even admitted she didn't feel like coming back for the one million; she did come back to promote merch and leaned on karaoke alot . Mumei was in a better head space than Gura too. But there was no shitposting about her being gone.

It would be easier to believe if they applied the same standards to every holo or if Gura had been gone like in the fall and it had been months. But they literally trying to shape history and making up stuff. That people don't know what Gura's been up too.

>>72444788
Streaming isn't a medium where you can fake something that's the polar opposite to your personality for too long anon.
It's been 3 years and she hasn't slipped even once. So there's no reason to think badly of her but you already knew that

>>72445697
No one fell in love with Mumei the way fans fell in love with Gura because everyone with half a brain knew not to because of specific reasons.
And even if you choose to ignore it, Mumei didn't disappear for 5 months like Gura did while pretending her fans didn't exist. Mumei wasn't the only member in all of hololive to not say anything for Christmas and New Years. Gura is a thousand times more loved than Mumei is. Of course more people would be hurt by being betrayed by her.
Your post is one of the dumbest in this thread.

>>72445450
I guess we're abit different I care about the vtuber and the personality they put out but I keep getting mindblocked if I try to connect myself further by worries of mortality and what happens long term.

>>72445715
>Streaming isn't a medium where you can fake something that's the polar opposite to your personality for too long anon.
That's why she doesn't stream

>>72445030
>what content?
>streamed 15 times
You partially answered your own question. There are other content besides gaming streams. Again how do you know her content doesn't require work to make?

>because I still thought she loved us and it made me feel closer to her
Why? What specifically in the stream worked for you?

>she abandons us again
How did she abandon you exactly though? Were you able to visit Gura personally?

>she didn't say why
She said in a twitter space what she would be up to after Holofest. No evidence Gura is even home yet.

>because I felt like I was left with nothing for the rest of the night
So you wanted Gura to stream longer that day?

>>72437738
if you knew gura you'd know from the start that's how she operates.
I don't know if you maliciously misinterpret this as her not caring about us or if you are shitposting.
But gura has shown time and time again she does care. a lot. a fuck ton. so stop being a dumbass

>>72433406
Kek cant even show members badge gifter sub inspect element fag

>>72444586
>getting betrayed is when I dont know where she is
fuck off retard

>>72445995
you only love yourself you retarded faggot. there is no betrayal, she's been like this as long she exitsed.
you never loved gura, you're just a retarded lonely grifter and no one needs you here, so quietly fuck off

Is Gura the only streamer where you are forced to reveal your membership if you say you've unfollowed her?

>>72438880
>>72439641
>>72440675
Are all of these Phasecucks? do they really think they can do anything? that their shitposts achieves something? It's so pathetic
>>72438603
Half of these statements are not even true. Who the fuck are you trying to fool? are you that much of a grifter that you don't know whats truth and what isn't?

You keep contradicting yourselves. of gura cared about money she would pull a Suisei ans collab with every male irl celebrity out there, shill the fuck out of her merch and stream MORE.

You can never get anything because the fans that actually love her, that pay for her stuff, that support her, they dont give a fuck about you or your shitpost.
You are not welcomed or valued. Real fans will not get swayed by your bullshit.
Gura and chumbuds will just keep getting stronger and stronger and you will be seething forever.

>>72432415
You guys always talk about it being a waste of money, but I don't see you posting the exclusive stuff anywhere. If you want people to stop giving her money for that, give them a reason not to.

>>72445697
>That people don't know what Gura's been up too.
The same thing applies to Mumei. They all have different personal reasons as to why they stopped streaming. You fucking hypocrite.
>Mumei literally put the same hiatus, no reason as to why, gone for months.
Mumei tries to communicate with her fans as much as possible during that time.

Chumbuds are cancer. Ban them permanently from this board.

>>72432415
sis, memberships means absolutely nothing now and you could have been an argentinian pesos abuser and only bought cheap membership to look at her members only content to make drama out of.

>>72432972
>ight before they betrayed EN fans
Good to know you bought their merch without watching a single one of their streams kek
They said they wanted to move on debut

So why does Mumei get a pass?

>>72446019
kek

>>72451169
they said a lot of things. doesn't mean that they'll all happen. and moving isn't the problem, changing their content is. it's non stop JP bullshit now, like 1/3 of the time instead of once a month

>>72451329
> it's non stop JP bullshit now, like 1/3 of the time instead of once a month
Their content hasnt changed at all. They simply haven't atreamed much due to moving. They've streamed 8 times since they moved, and ONE of those streams was a JP collab.
This is also perfectly in like with how they've always streamed, since they have been collabing with JP girls since the first month.
Once again, nice job buying my oshis merch despite the fact that you've never watched a single stream KEK

I see the guraschizo is still shitting up the catalog as usual

>>72451524
He moved onto FuwaMoco briefly. He loves to seethe over both of them, for some reason

>>72432415
>spent money on gura dino
>got my dino
skill issue

>>72436367
are you american? what is it with americans and having a fuck ton of debt? i recall seeing people posting pictures of lists of all their paid subscriptions like netflix. and its a long list. they treat people with no debt as lazy bums. its insane

>cucks still paying memberships for a bitch who doesn't even stream
lmaooooo pathetic

>>72438603
Based shork

>>72451573
Mental illness is its own pass-time

>>72451172
Communicate with her fans and keep them updated, maybe? Nobody actually wants to watch her anyway, because people don't care where she is during the hiatus.

>>72448181

>>72448181
You chumbies really do just oshi making money, don't you? That's the only conceivable way she's "getting stronger" as she puts out maybe 1/4 the content she used to and with a much higher ratio of shilling. You say half of OPs statements aren't even true, but don't actually counter any of them. Then you use a strawman to say we're contradicting ourselves. The argument isn't that Gura is pure money hungry because yes, then she'd stream more. The argument is that she's a combination of money hungry and lazy. She won't get out of bed unless it's contractually obligated or she has something to sell. Doesn't really say good things about her connection with her (going by your post, retarded) audience.

So many exposing themselves as possessive, jealous, domineering, controlling, smothering, and clingy boyfriends here. Parasocialism is scary.
Gura is not your girlfriend.

Jesus fucking Christ, I went to bed and woke up to faggots arguing whether or not it's Niji deflection thread, moaning about being poor, and just being fucking retarded

the fucking subject I typed was wasted money, yeah $5 isn't much but giving it to someone not doing anything is stupid. my point was I left it on for months now and forgot about, checked and realized I've just losing money to a dead channel.

I'm not owning anyone, just stating the fact that it's stupid to have a membership to someone who doesn't even stream anymore besides begging for you to buy their merch and dips out for months again

Why do cumchuds act like un-membering is some great effort you have to go through? It's literally just clicking some buttons.

>>72432415
Dont worry, I will give her the money you stop giving to her

>>72451172
Mumei has done 4 streams since Fes, and will do 2 more tonight. That's 6 streams, which is 6 streams more than Gura has.

>>72453899
So many companies rely on you forgetting you subbed, its why i try to cancel immediately afterwards. I prefer a "your subscription will lapse in 3 days. renew now!" message to the alternative.

>>72432415
May I suggest rocketmoney.com for all your subscription cancelling needs?

Looks like the antis are having a meltdown... again.