/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

They are women and they are streamers

>>72377943
If you want to watch someone good at games you should watch men, not girls

yes, girls are cute, I'm glad you realized it

>>72377943
op... you are autistic

>>72377943
skill issue

>>72377943
Women are just retarded. The reason so many men watch female streamers and vtubers is because they want to help the retard play the game. It's a version of saviorfagging

>>72377989
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>>72378238
I thought that too, but when I showed this bit in Bioshock Infinite to my grandma, who plays almost no videogames, she figured it out almost right away. It can't just be "because woman".

>>72377943
It's obvious to you because you've been playing games since you were 6 years old. Try to pick up an instrument or start drawing and you'll see that you're just as inept.

>>72378343
That's what I'm thinking too, it seems like a lot of them never played any games before, almost as if they didn't realize what they got themselves into when they started Vtubing.

>>72378334
It is just "because woman". Vtubers and streamers are majority late teens/early 20s, and yet it's only the females that struggle so much with basic shit like this. Your grandma is old as shit and has most likely held an actual job, something streamers will never do

>>72377943
most chuubas aren't gamers, if you watched Kiara, you'd see some don't even give a shit about the game they're playing lmao

>>72378594
>yet it's only the females that struggle so much with basic shit like this
No it isn't, you just don't watch the male retards.

>>72378647
Nobody should suffer the cruel fate of watching Kiara

>>72377943
You'd be surprised how much your brain can switch off when trying to provide commentary over a game while playing it

>>72378594
are you absolutely sure?

>>72378766
There's always an outlier

>>72378739
thinking out loud and calling out what you're going to do actually improves concentration though, as is explaining how things come to be regarding the gameplay
distraction is trying to chat with the chat about unrelated stuffs

>>72378922
They're not thinking out loud, they are playing characters while carefully modulating their voice.

>>72378334
Shieeet nigga make your grangran a vtuber, I'd watch granny oakwood play tf2 and pubstomp like the giga gamer she is.

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>>72377943
they pretend to be stupid to make the lonely ugly man feel superior to someone in some way and open their wallets, it works better than you think

>>72377943
I don't know that feel lol.

>>72377943
That's your problem, bro.

>>72377943
>>72379312
https://www.anime-planet.com/manga/agi-light-novel

>Sapient AI is created
>Generally ignorant about the world but will go out and learn everything about a specific topic if you tell her to
>Try to raise money for the lab by having her become a VTuber
>She plays games flawlessly and emotionlessly and no one watches
>Tell her "learn how to be the most popular VTuber"
>Come back and she's dressed in a fetish outfit and screeching at the screen as she fails at videogames over and over, and also hacked Google to place herself at the top of the algorithm

>>72379966
Sounds about right.
They are entertainers, women being good at video games aren't that entertaining.

>>72379966
IIRC, AGI-chan also does the Kizuna Ai thing of smugging to her audience about being a super-genius AI just before doing something incredibly stupid.

How are some of you so dense that you fail to realise streamers rage bait their audience to engage them.

>>72377943
because being good at video games or not means nothing in streaming or vtubing.
i know pro players who get shit viewership, a guy who has been promoted by a much bigger streamer and participated and done well in streamed tourneys that regularly streams to about 0-4 people. another pro that everyone in the community would recognize his name and be able to name his big moment, pulls maybe 100-200 ccv.
being good at games means nothing if you dont have the "stuff"

>>72380218
uuuuuu I'm so mad, I'll watch someone else

>>72379312
>>72379966
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>>72380361
I get it's for entertainment, hence me joking about being "contractually obligated" in the OP. However, I believe there is a gray area between "flawlessly and expertly playing games with barely any mistakes" and "not getting past the bells at the start of Infinite for half an hour". The former can be stale and unfun to watch, but the latter turns the inverse relation of entertainment and gameplay quality into an exercise in horseshoe theory.

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>>72380500
https://twitter.com/corgi_koragi/status/1762634872391163960

>>72380571
did she beat it in the end?

>>72380629
https://twitter.com/corgi_koragi/status/1762753468593221727

>>72380629
yup, on thursday apparently.

>>72378334
I think it's just that your grandma is smart. Only average or below average intelligence people become streamers. Also dumb=cute in many cultures so even the smart ones (like Luna) will act a bit dumber than they are for kayfabe/appeal.

>>72380629
Koragi is persistent. She somehow beat Phantom Ganon in OOT *without* figuring out that you can only hurt him by reflecting his attacks with your sword.

>>72377943
>Are Vtubers contractually obligated to be bad at videogames
no

>>72378594
>only the females
how many streamer dudes have been banned from Japan at this point? how many have been outed as actual sex pests? how many failed to cover up something as simple as a crypto scam? how many fell for FAKE crypto psyops?
i also want you to look at the top male streamers currently and tell me whether or not they're the pinnacle of intelligence.

>>72377989
You’d think considering gaming is their job they’d eventually improve though, I wouldn’t really even ask for high level gaming skill, just the ability to preform better than actual children.

retarded women are cute. cute.

>>72380571
tbf that fight is bullshit.

Its not Anya's fault anon, that one puzzle seems really confusing. How else are you supposed to know you had to look at that card

>>72377943
This puzzle is hard...

>>72384696
this... this was a bit, right? this is mel-tier dumb

>>72377943
>PLEASE
kek, that guy in chat sounds stressed. reminds me of watching Luna take 3 hours to get out of the vault in fallout4

>>72377943
It's hard to both stream/be entertaining and process all of the information of most games if you've never played them before. Imagine the first time you play a game is in front of thousands of people? I doubt you'd be great

>>72378647

Gaming isn't lucrative that's why Okayu rebranded as an asmr whore

Retro Mario games are the great filter which no vtuber has passed to this day

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>>72386717
How does she do it?

>>72386751
lulu just brute forced everything

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>>72378238
That screenshot is a fake lmfao she never played the game with that outfit and that SC does not exist

>>72377943
Mixture of streaming mode requiring periodic disconnects from the game. Reminds me of Anya doing one of the seesaw puzzles in Black Mesa where you're supposed to use the buoyancy of the props to lift the thing up.
That said, I want Anya to play Half Life 2 and Episode 1 and 2 already. It's fitting that it would've been the third Half-Life game she plays.

>>72384696
Kek sauce?

>>72377943
i hope we get a streamer mode not to make them anonymous but makes but it just makes the prompts so gigantic that it becomes hard to ignore but sometimes it does get annoying when the literal prompt on what to do next is in the middle of the screen and they choose to not somehow see it

>>72377943
Most women's game experience comes from watching their brother's play video games when they were kids. Many girls actually don't even like playing games and only do it because it's part of the contract. You'll notice that a few will avoid doing gaming streams as much as possible in favor of rambling zatsus because if there's one thing they love it's to talk about pointless shit for hours and hours.

>>72388209
You say this like it negates the fact that women suck at video games

>>72389113
its inugami korone from hololive gamers

>>72378647
I once made the mistake of watching Kiara play Nier Automata and during the hacking minigame it became clear very quickly that it was impossible for her to move the analogue sticks in different directions.

>>72378594
Jerma is completely inept when it comes to puzzles. Vinesauce Vinny is sometimes inept but also he sometimes accidentally solves a puzzle. Both have worked multiple jobs and even worked when they were starting out. Many VTubers are the same, a lot company and indies work wage jobs while also livestreaming.

>>72384487
They don't need to be the pinnacle of intelligence to solve a literal baby game puzzle

>>72379312
This.
You are 100% right anon, it's a way to make chat feel like they are helping the vtubers and a way to make them interact more. It's like when someone asks you to "comment down below what you thought about x", comments matter to the algorithm.
But the fact that I had to scroll this far to see your reply just confirms how autistic this whole board is (and why vtubers are a thing to begin with)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2DSbS4l_mE

So when I start streaming do I want to act retarded since the most successful girls either are retarded or act retarded or can I continue to be competent at video games since I've been playing video games for as long as I can remember?

>>72377943
Streamers don't need to be "good" at video games to make content. Being bad also fuels community interaction as they either rage or critique gameplay, which boosts the algorithm.
On top of that, getting good at a game generally requires time to practice and a lot of repetition. Do you really want to watch your oshi practice a combo in a fighting game for 3 hours and study oki setups? Or do you just want to watch her hop into a new game and have fun while yapping?

>>72377943
I'm glad after 10 years this video is still relevant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_u18_BKczg

>>72377943
did this puzzle actually take her that long? fucking kek

>>72391305
>Do you really want to watch your oshi practice a combo in a fighting game for 3 hours and study oki setups?
>3 hours
lol

>>72391626
A really sad thing too is how completely separate the fields of "good entertainer" and "good at video games" tends to be. A good example is Doki's recent tournament where she was grouped with some great players who just... couldn't hold a conversation to save their life.
...Unless they were just intimidated by the fact that she was a female in voice call. That could be a factor too.

>>72391472
a certified classic

>>72378107
based og vspo chad

>>72377943
>play badly on purpose
>all the men start mansplaining
>do what they say
>they become happy and donate
hehehehe easy money...

>>72378569
Vtubing (and streaming in general) isn't only about playing games. I hate what /v/ermin have done to the community.

>>72391765
Reminds me when the Korean pro league players came over to Twitch and started streaming. You've never in your life seen a less engaging streamer. Literally sitting there silently clicking. They still got views because they were that fucking good at the game but damn. Autism has it's positives and negatives.

>>72377943
>Vtubing is playing games 90% of the time
>Hire all non gamers
Check!
On top of that, they tend to hire overqualified girls who's qualifications don't carry over into the streaming world at all. Who gives a shit what someones formal education is, if she's gonna be a boring bitch on stream + so busy IRL that she will end up barely streaming 3 times a week after her honeymoon period (usually after the first 6 months of streaming).

>>72393283
So why do they play games 90% of the time? Do you think /v/ somehow magically forced all /jp/ vtubers to play games?

>>72393174
You should express how happy the donations make you by giving kisses for each donation. Id donate twice if i got a kiss for my donation.

>>72378334
check your grandma's crotch, OP. your grandma might be actually a grandpa

>>72394823
Not all of them. A lot of vtubers are gaming focused because it's the easiest way to create lots of content, and so vtubers who stream a lot of hours will usually play lots of games. But there are also chatting and singing focused vtubers, ASMR vtubers, pre-recorded skittubers, etc.

>>72386751
not human girl

>>72391305
Yes I also want this SF6 arc to end

>>72377943
>all this while posting a literally faked screenshot

>>72390725
but if they're supposed to appeal to autistics then why does their incompetence make me leave the stream out of secondhand embarrassment?

>>72391305
A balance does exist, and said balance was one of the most popular streamers at the height of his career.
career ended too soon unfortunately

>>72396073
Because you my friend have SOME dignity. Rejoice!

>>72377943
No fucking way Anya took 30 minutes to do this. It had to be a bit. Seriously though, women are just bad at games. Remember Fauna and the white hole station? Anyone remember that Nintendo word championship thing from 2015 where they got a bunch of speed runners to race through various parts from Nintendo games? Take a guess which ones failed spectacularly at it.

>>72377943
kek. they are probably blind or 4 eyes. there's no way normal ppl can't see this shit

>>72380558
ok she is just a retard then. cute retard

>>72385173
wait really? lmao i need to see this

>>72377943
Most Vtubers are E-singers, E-artists, E-performers, and E-celebrities expecting them to be good at video games is fucking retarded anon.

>>72377943
yes

>>72380558
>inverted controls
the only people i know who do this shit play games like ace combat or other vehicle combat games. is anya actually a vehicle combat gamer?

>>72399058
unfortunately you're just an E-faggot

Some of them really improve over time, some of them are also quite the try hard even with their skill issue like Tenma. The thing is the vast majority of them start at a very low experience with video games beforehand, so even if they improve you don't really realize it at first glance cause it's still not enough to consider them among your decent/average gamer.

>>72391159
>or can I continue to be competent at video games since I've been playing video games for as long as I can remember?
I hope you didnt waste all your time playing video times and put some effort into being interesting and entertaining too

A lot of them didn't grow up playing games and may not have played until they started streaming. So they simply don't possess the most basic gaming knowledge that you take for granted, like knowing how to run in Super Mario.

>>72390804
That's racist

the worse offenders are the ones that skip the tutorial and complain about the game being too hard the whole stream

>>72405963
>*mutes the audio*
>*game relies on audio cues*

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>>72384560
As someone who grew up watching let's plays, trust me when I say recording or streaming fucks up your focus on a whole nother level. Add that on top of the woman & brown debuffs, I don't hold it against her

>>72378739
I think most of them are also glancing/reading chat, and have a screen with analytics and other crap on it to know if they are dropping frames or related issues. Plus whatever DMs they might be getting or calls/reminders for meetings.

>>72377943
That's part of the fun, if not indeed the core of the fun.

Watching someone who has played a video game so much that they fly through it like it's nothing is boring AF. Watching someone coming into a game for the first time and being both terrified and awe inspired by it, that's entertainment.

People that are constantly in the zone don't make for every interesting reactions. I suppose speed runners have an audience, but it's not the same audience, and I don't think it's as large an audience (though I don't have the CCV's on hand so don't quote me there).

>>72406147
It always amazes me how bad streamers (not just vtubers) are at picking up positional audio. Following their friend's voices in Lethal Company for instance. I dunno if all streamers use speakers, or just have really odd surround sound settings, but through Youtube I can CLEARLY hear that the voice is emanating from behind them, and they keep running forward screaming "WHERE ARE YOU!?" while the voice gets dimmer and dimmer.

Funny as fuck sometimes. Though Lethal Company in particular is just a comedy content generation machine.

>>72408745
Gets to be a bit much sometimes. Like asking chat "How do you crouch?", in a game where it's either C and Ctrl. How many damn games have you played now girl!?

>>72377943
well, you see, it doesn't really matter how long it takes you to solve this puzzle because any person with average or better IQ would have dropped this shitpile of a game in the first hour

I've seen many many streamers, even very experienced ones and speedrunners, talk about how much harder it is to be entertaining on stream and focus on a game at the same time. Having to divide your attention is a huge intelligence debuff. Unless you're already very experienced with a game you will miss obvious things, and even for experienced players where the game is routine, the advantage they have is that they know in advance which parts of the game they need to ignore chat to focus on for a minute.

I stream occasionally for friends and a niche community and even with only like 4 people watching and chatting I already notice that I'm much worse at it than when I play the same thing offline. Then add to that the sheer variety of games most chuubas play (such that they're always having to figure new things out) and that they probably haven't been spending hours playing games every day for most of their lives and I can totally understand the difficulty, even if it's a bit frustrating to watch sometimes.

>>72394823
join membership you grey faggot

>>72378343
At first, but not for literal years, you tardling.

skill issue

>>72377943
Wait a minute that card...

>>72408745
Is Bijou the exception then?

>>72415668
Absolutely never.

>>72377943
>It's this episode again
tl;dr, streamer brain isreal. I'm a guy, and pretty decent at most genres. There are a few games I would even say I'm extremely good at. But I'm also a vtuber.

When streaming, if you're actually trying to be entertaining instead of a boring mouthbreather who just sits and plays in silence, you have to pay attention to and think about so many little things that your gamplay is severely affected. I would estimate I play an average of 60% my best. You wouldn't think it's that bad, since none of the tasks are hard, but it's a death by a thousand cuts.

>>72414898
>speedrunners
Can confirm. Imagine you have a 2 frame window to do something in a 60 fps game. That's about 33 milliseconds. If you're focused, it's tricky, but not impossible.

Now do it while trying to read chat, talk to people, and think of jokes to make, while making sure you speak very clearly and directly into the mic. Not likely. You can pause and focus on that one part, but you're likely not in your groove/flow state. It's no wonder AGDQ has people on the couch commentating. There are plenty of games where doing both just isn't a reasonable proposition at all, even for the best of the best.

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>>72418483
>>72406252

>>72378647
>she never finished mario 64 cause filtered
;_;

>>72379312
This could be true, but let's be honest. some of them are giving it their 100% on stream at times

>>72416194
If anything she's a direct example of the same multitasking distractions anons are talking about in this thread.
You can see her go dead silent occasionally to make it past the harder parts of a game, then immediately start struggling with comparatively trivial enemies or wandering into obstacles the moment she leaves the zone and starts chattering away again.

>>72380809
>a chubba this retarded
I will now give her a watch, thanks

>>72394437
Yeah 99% of korean pros are giga boring, but then you have people like peanut who had great fucking streams

>>72416008
>throwsemi loselock
heh

>>72390150
Sauce for the moment, my dear captain obvious.