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72194904 No.72194904 [Reply] [Original]

What makes you think you're a better judge of character than Kiara who actually knows the livers in person and knows more about their true personalities besides misleading clips spread by drama monkeys?

>> No.72194949
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>> No.72194953

Because I'm a man.

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>>72194953
>claims to be a man
>gossips like a woman

>> No.72195005

>>72194979
Who are you quoting?

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>>72194904

>> No.72195059

>>72194904
Specifically that I DID follow all the drama. I'm convinced that Kiara simply wasn't aware of all the details about Enna because she's busy doing her work and living her own life.

>> No.72195099

>>72195059
>I'm convinced that Kiara simply wasn't aware of all the details about Enna because she's busy doing her work and living her own life.
Ignorance is a bliss...

>> No.72195159

>>72195059
unless you personally know everyone involved you do not know more details than Kiara LOL

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>>72195059
If fucking normal fags who never tuned into a vtuber stream knew then Kiara knew you kfp need better cope material. Especially when she not only met enna but also millie and reimu as well.

>> No.72195217

>>72194904
>What makes you think you're a better judge of character than Kiara
Some Asuka video actually

>> No.72195231

>>72195042
Every fucking time. I'm tired of these cabals ruining everything.

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>>72195191

>> No.72195410

>>72194904
>What makes you think you're a better judge of character than Kiara
I don't dislike Kiara but she's made some extremely poor life decisions in the past. She doesn't strike me as having a huge amount of sense when it comes to certain things, particularly interpersonal relationships.

>> No.72195436

>>72195306
I rather be an ESL than being a KFP NDF apologist like yourself.

>> No.72195567

>>72195436
As a holochad I say fuck off Nijifags and Dokifags. We don't deal with petty bitchy drama in our superior corpo.

>> No.72195662

>>72195191
>>72195306
>>72195436
I never said I was KFP. Also, you've been talking to another person, not me.

>> No.72195716

>>72194904
I've already observed Kiara's own deficient character, why would I then take her judgement on others?

>> No.72195757

>>72194904
KYS Enna. You traitorous whore. Vile scum. Wigger dick-sucker. Fuck off or kys.

>> No.72195772

>>72194904
>What makes you think you're a better judge of character than Kiara
because shes a provenly terrible judge of character
>clips spread by drama monkeys
who, enna? be nice to your OSHIt, aloucreep

>> No.72195792

>>72194904
Kill yourself you pajeet leech

>> No.72195842

>>72194904
>What makes you think you're a better judge of character than Kiara
I'm not a euro woman that's obsessed with Japanese stuff. I know I'm the better judge.

>> No.72195915

>>72195567
There's nothing holochad about KFP and their ass tonguing of Nijisanji. How does that black company ass taste like?

>> No.72195957

>>72194904
Even the stupidest, most gullible third world ESL on this board has more common sense than Kiara.

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>>72195410
Kiara, how could you have betrayed your own like this?

>> No.72196047

>>72195915
Everyone knows the reality of the situation. The Niji girls are groveling at Kiara's feet, hoping she can give them good publicity and latching onto her. The fuck do you care about drama when the peasants throw themselves at you to save face?

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Is it finally happening?

>> No.72196275

>>72194953
spbp

>> No.72196324

>>72196047
Lol the fuck is this cope. You need better excuses man, thus far KFP narrative went from "she didn't know" "she has better judgment so I trust her" to "nijigirls are groveling at Kiara feet looking for someone paint them in a good light in the face of public general opinion" what else you're going to come up with? That she was forced against her will by 3 women to do this?

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>>72196047
I guess Tweedle-Dum and Tweedle-Dee are looking for a new mistress to boss them around after Elira snubbed them for the promotion.

>> No.72196359

>>72195005
Voices in my head.

>> No.72196489

>>72194904
Enna and Millie have never showed any sign of regret about what happened to Selen, so that's enough for me.

>> No.72196670

>enna said she mocks people for fun
>often mocks people in Chinese so they can't understand
>mocks her family members in English so they can't understand her.
>lifelong bully
>sometimes randomly mocks people who are nice to her, for no reason
>incredibly out of touch and self obsessed narcissist

>> No.72196749

>>72195099
lol that's all the ESL dubs reply I need to know what is going on

>> No.72197223

>>72194904
I'm not a Lesbian.

>> No.72197258

>>72196670
>often mocks people in Chinese so they can't understand
That sounds really cowardly

>> No.72197333

>>72196162
Seems like Kiara, being the self-absorbed useful idiot she is, got herself involved as an attack vector for a smear campaign. I would not be surprised if the Niji-whores tried to give her ''their side of the story'', if not to absolve Niji - then at least themselves.

>> No.72197507

>>72194904
>Kiara feels a certain way
>... therefor you should too
I am not the type of person to go along with something, just because another person does so. I do not respect Kiara's judgement on this whatsoever, Enna-cuck.

>> No.72197333,1 [INTERNAL] 

You know what, I've lurked here for years now and can tell you no one seemed to actually hit the right spot of what happened. The truth is that Kiara is an obserredly accomodating and forgiving person, contrary to people characterizing her as spiteful or petty. I know of cases, where she forgave someone, who threw her under the bus and proceeded to slander her in her lowest moment. She gave some deranged schizo, who stalked her, x-many chances to clean up his act, before he ended up leaving the fanbase of his own volition. There is an infamous clip of her asking her fanbase whether she can collab with some males and she still proceeded to get purposefully one-guyd, so as not to upset people. She's my oshi, but she does this to an extreme fault. Veibae is another example people know of. You can't fucking tell me that her being friends with Veibae is somehow a sign of being a Holoanti, since this is contrary to every atom of reality.
What most likely happened is that Enna, Millie and Reimu saw an opportunity to sink their fucking animal teeth into Kiara, by leveraging Pomu. Whether this was out of a genuine wish to befriend her or an ulterior motive is a different story. Kiara, feeling almost morally obligated to not hold things against people, accepted. Whether Doki came up in their conversations is entirely irrelevant. Maybe they tried to push their Niji-internal narratives onto Kiara or maybe they tried to avoid the topic and hope she'll just call them nice on Twitter or maybe they just wanted to move on from that internally.
I will also point out to people, that Mumei 100% knew in some capacity of this. Kiara is a notorious loudmouth and would've told everyone in EN about their meeting. If any of their names dropped between Doki and Mumei, it would have been dropped between Mumei and Kiara. Kiara is actually terminally online and anyone claiming she was ignorant of Selens termination never watched a second of her streams. Combine her accomodating nature and her terminally online nature. She must've consulted with Mumei before the meeting. If you then follow the NDF logic to its conclusion, it would mean Mumei being against Doki and for Niji. And that's fucking retarded to believe. Then what Kiara believes to have happened is largely irrelevant, since she would be feeling obligated to not hold such a thing against them. Dokis wish to move on and not harass anyone would also be mentally leveraged.
This is merely speculation, but I do believe it was performative of Enna and Millie. Their tone of voice in tweets is so over-the-top, as if to scream to the world how great friends they are. The same thing happened with Scarle. Whether Millie bullied Scarle is an open question, but the Karaoke stream was such over-the-top virtue signaling. After the xth time, it becomes an obvious pattern. Combine this with Millie mentioning her charity work to people or the secret gc stream, it's obvious she tries to show off to people too much.

>> No.72197651

>>72196162
Hot damn. Kiara perfectly fits into this.

>> No.72197720

Kiara is a gala-class attention whore who would rather show that she has people she knows and has information that people stupidly tell her and tell everyone else immediately than use her brain to stay out of trouble.

>> No.72197823

>>72195059
how fucking retarded you have to be to really believe this

>> No.72197830

You know what, I've lurked here for years now and can tell you no one seemed to actually hit the right spot of what happened. The truth is that Kiara is an obserredly accomodating and forgiving person, contrary to people characterizing her as spiteful or petty. I know of cases, where she forgave someone, who threw her under the bus and proceeded to slander her in her lowest moment. She gave some deranged schizo, who stalked her, x-many chances to clean up his act, before he ended up leaving the fanbase of his own volition. There is an infamous clip of her asking her fanbase whether she can collab with some males and she still proceeded to get purposefully one-guyd, so as not to upset people. She's my oshi, but she does this to an extreme fault. Veibae is another example people know of. You can't fucking tell me that her being friends with Veibae is somehow a sign of being a Holoanti, since this is contrary to every atom of reality.
What most likely happened is that Enna, Millie and Reimu saw an opportunity to sink their fucking animal teeth into Kiara, by leveraging Pomu. Whether this was out of a genuine wish to befriend her or an ulterior motive is a different story. Kiara, feeling almost morally obligated to not hold things against people, accepted. Whether Doki came up in their conversations is entirely irrelevant. Maybe they tried to push their Niji-internal narratives onto Kiara or maybe they tried to avoid the topic and hope she'll just call them nice on Twitter or maybe they just wanted to move on from that internally.
I will also point out to people, that Mumei 100% knew in some capacity of this. Kiara is a notorious loudmouth and would've told everyone in EN about their meeting. If any of their names dropped between Doki and Mumei, it would have been dropped between Mumei and Kiara. Kiara is actually terminally online and anyone claiming she was ignorant of Selens termination never watched a second of her streams. Combine her accomodating nature and her terminally online nature. She must've consulted with Mumei before the meeting. If you then follow the NDF logic to its conclusion, it would mean Mumei being against Doki and for Niji. And that's fucking retarded to believe. Then what Kiara believes to have happened is largely irrelevant, since she would be feeling obligated to not hold such a thing against them. Dokis wish to move on and not harass anyone would also be mentally leveraged.
This is merely speculation, but I do believe it was performative of Enna and Millie. Their tone of voice in tweets is so over-the-top, as if to scream to the world how great friends they are. The same thing happened with Scarle. Whether Millie bullied Scarle is an open question, but the Karaoke stream was such over-the-top virtue signaling. After the xth time, it becomes an obvious pattern. Combine this with Millie mentioning her charity work to people or the secret gc stream, it's obvious she tries to show off to people too much.

>> No.72197879

>>72194904
True, Kiara is a saint so trust her and apologize to Enna.
You owe her at least that

>> No.72198079

>>72197879
>apologize to enna
I will apologize to enna after you kill yourself.

>> No.72198086

>Kiara, good judge of character
>wanted to collab with Veibae

>> No.72198173

>>72194904
Paki-chan double dipping now, very insidious.

>> No.72198187

>>72194904
So true. We love Enna now.

>> No.72198290

>>72194904
If you're a girl you can literally be Kiara's friend, you just need to suck her off on twitter and youtube. She had collabs with 2views and other twitch random streamers because they spammed her saying she's the best vtuber and their oshi, and pum collab and suddenly friends

>> No.72199005

What are the odds that Enna and Millie shit-talked Doki over dinner with Kiara?

>> No.72199195

>>72197830
>The truth is that Kiara is an obserredly accomodating and forgiving person, contrary to people characterizing her as spiteful or petty.
Literally no one was suggesting the latter. Jesus christ, you wrote out all that for nothing.

>> No.72199265

>>72194953
fpbp

>> No.72199346

>>72194904
Not being Kiara

>> No.72199380

>>72199005
Given how little self control Nijisanji tubers have, pretty high chance

>> No.72199445

>>72194904
Kiara liked Rings of Power.

>> No.72199599

>>72199005
100% of course. Zero tact

>> No.72200158

>>72194953
no you're not

>> No.72200314

>>72199005
>>72199380
>>72199599
>Kiara got scammed into meeting Devil™, despite knowing Pomu and Mumei
>They started to explain to Kiara how she should shit talk someone she barely knows
>Straight up mocking Doki (a friend of both Pomu and Mumei) in front of Kiara
>somehow this is all happening without Kiara noticing at all
>Of course Kiara is never going to call Pomu or Mumei to verify anything outlandish Devil™ might have spewed
>She'll obviously boost them on twitter and put her reputation at stake
>despite Devil™ doing all of that in front of her
>act chummy with them too
You fuckers left reality a long fucking time ago.

>> No.72200346

The reason why I'm confident that the people named in the black screen video are guilty is because Doki's friend Gumiho was willing to rant about that exact point on Twitter. If it was a dead rrat, Doki would have advised Gumiho not to say that.

>> No.72200349

>>72194904
I'm not a woman
women are HORRIBLE judges of character

>> No.72200462

>>72200314
Enna is legitimately a cunt

>> No.72200582

>>72200462
Yes, but the idea that Kiara is that gullible and Enna is that stupid is pushing it too far.

>> No.72200748

>>72200582
Enna's whole shtick is being a bully and a cunt who mocks everyone. Given how self conscious Kiara is I would not be surprised if she falls for it

>> No.72200979

>>72194904
The real, true and correct take here is that Kiara probably a)doesn't give a shit about the niji situation or b)out of respect, didn't bring it up; and that Millie, Enna and Reimu didn't bring it up either (why the fuck would they) instead trying to make the best impression possible.
But why did they meet up in the first place? Who knows. Maybe they met up with notPomu as well, which is why Kiara had no problem going along with it

>> No.72201018

>>72194904
I have never seen a good post with an Enna picture attached

>> No.72201026

>>72199445
>terrible judge of character
>zero media literacy
Yea, that follows

>> No.72201032

>>72196324
>Excuses
Despite your desperate attempts to turn this into a yab literally nobody gives a fuck. Dokifags are continuing to prove that we should have never backed her up, even if it meant shitting on Niji. Should have known you can take the fanbase out of Niji but you can't take Niji out of the fanbase.

>> No.72201150

>>72199445
/thread

>> No.72201189

>>72201032
>Dokifags
Dokifags are completely divested from this situation. Sayufags actually cared for a little longer, because they want revenge but even they moved on.
It's only the dramafags and honest-to-god antis that have been fuming for years that care.

>> No.72201261

>>72194904
I don't think I am a better judge of character. I think Kiara has awful taste in friends.

>> No.72201284

Kiara is a dumb cunt. I can't believe she's hasn't been fired yet.

>> No.72201429

>>72201018
They aren't. The picture is to tell you to automatically disregard such posts.

>> No.72201929

>>72194904
Content creators talk to and tolerate their own because they are of simillar size/ popularity, I actually watch them

>> No.72203052

>>72196162
>They want to effectively speak to their friends about "their truth", so that a grassroot, coordinated pushback turns public sentiment around
This explains a lot.

>> No.72203355

>>72194904
What kind of retard inherently trusts a random other person's opinion instead of coming to their own conclusions based upon the evidence, including the random other person's opinion?

>> No.72203690

>>72203355
a KFP

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>>72199445

>> No.72203721

>>72196162
Holo management will shut this shit down in a heartbeat.

>> No.72203795

If Enna's actually good, then I'm the husband of every girl in Hololive.

>> No.72203856

>>72194953
spbp

>> No.72203943

>>72195191
>if the same people who watch the jersey shore and love island know all the gossip, then everyone has to!
/vtmz/ at it's finest

>> No.72204005

>kiara
>better judge of character
dyrbi

>> No.72204018

>>72200582
>Enna is that stupid is pushing it too far
idk Enna is pretty fucking stupid

>> No.72204234

>>72194904
>Kiara
>Better judge of character
>Mori
LOL
LMAO EVEN

>> No.72205135

>>72196047
>The Niji girls are groveling at Kiara's feet
it's not her feet they're licking ;)

>> No.72206386

>>72200582
Enna was stupid enough to self report to her members.

>> No.72206529

>>72194904
Nothing about Kiara suggests she's a strong judge of character

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Ok let's say Enna wasn't an evil cunt.
She absolutely is, but let's say she wasn't in some alternate universe.

The stuff she did to shit on unicorns and vtuber fans in general still makes her extremely undesireable to associate with. She literally did NTR stuff just to shit on the concept of unicorns and parasocialism. And when she realized her donations were at rock bottom levels, she started being parasocial to get that money.

I cannot emphasize this enough, she is a BAD person.

>> No.72206735

>>72206606
Remember initially Kiara was trying to leech Trash Taste until she pivoted to being quasi unicorn friendly after seeing the backlash others got.

>> No.72206898

>>72206606
She should just pander to JP viewers, the Japanese are weirdly obsessed with NTR

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>>72194904
And just like that nijiniggers managed to poison the well, deflect, leech and got a pass all for free.
Thx Kiara!

>> No.72207097

>>72194904
I'm not a race traitor like kiara

>> No.72207535

>>72196004
That's just CPTSD, not BPD.

>> No.72207546

>>72194953
/thread

>> No.72207552

Do you really expect the MEMEME whore to not take advantage of this?

>> No.72207615

>>72195042
Qrd??

>> No.72207713

>>72194904
Kiara is shit too.

>> No.72208309

>>72207552
Taking advantage would be dunking on the clique publicly for easy virtue signaling. I'm not sure what this is supposed to be.

>> No.72210696

>>72206606
>Let's imagine she isn't evil. She still thinks unicorns are cringe though so no one should ever talk to her again

You are a retard

>> No.72210946

>>72200314
Are Holo streams so boring you faggots have to come here and write fanfiction to keep yourself entertained?

>> No.72211145

>>72199445
Ew, didnt expect the one Holo who shills Tolkien liked that Bezos filth.

>> No.72213882

>>72194904
Kiara just wants to fuck her

>> No.72216159

>>72211145
She’s never read any of his work, right?

>> No.72217166

>>72207552
take advantage of what? siding with the bullies just paints her in a bad light.

>> No.72218034

>>72207535
NTA but you're right. Pretty much all BPD women have CPTSD to some extent, but I think the biggest differentiator to identify BPD is the splitting, the favorite person, and the need for constant reassurance/praise.
A lot of CPTSD folks will just never make close personal connections. The BPD can almost never tolerate the isolation and the loneliness, they need someone to project on and copy.

>> No.72218753

>>72206898
Because they all cheat on each other.

>> No.72218877

>>72194904
I am part of Clan SNEED. Kiara isn't. Simple as.

>> No.72219767

>>72194904
the fact that I can tell that she is a fucking high horse virtue signaler hypocritical cunt just from her streams

>> No.72221598

>>72194904
I don't think the bare minimum of twitter cordialities is any indication of her stance either way. For one, not everyone is willing to publicly blacklist people they find distasteful rather than ignore them or keep up a professional facade, and for two, what reason do you have to believe Kiara is more privy to Niji's behind-the-scenes goings-ons than us?

>> No.72223005

>>72197830
Much texto but you are 100% correct. I think she had her fair of fuck ups in the past and is more forgiving because of it. I just hope more level-headed kfp help steer her in the right direction if the allegations are real.

>> No.72223659

>>72194904
retarded orange woman, she doesn't know any better
>>72194953
spbp

>> No.72224241

The orange women is a yab machine second only to Mori. No one trusts her unless you're a KFPiss.

>> No.72224804

>>72195059
>I'm convinced that Kiara simply wasn't aware
Wrong. Kiara is part of the clique.
From my hololive oshi's past interactions or collabs with Kiara, I wouldn't be surprised if Kiara turned out to be a bully herself.

>> No.72225672

>>72224804
Who is your oshi in hololive because you sound more of dramasister

>> No.72225806

>>72194953
spbp

>> No.72226616

>>72194904
I'm pretty good at figuring people out and picking up on the way they behave. I don't really get attached to anything which allows me to not just look at things objectively, but also adopt other subjective positions on a whim.
That said, I am not disagreeing with some of Kiara's hunches, and her general anti-drama position of "You shouldn't just focus on drama to get popular."
My initial take is that these are all pretty low caliber people, without strong morals or ethics, and it's pointless to try and rank which ones are more selfish and manipulative. I assume that on some level everyone intuitively senses this as well, and they're just pretending to go along with drama for other reasons. Just like fans pretend that the talents themselves are like innocent anime girls, when we all know better.

>> No.72226930

>>72194904
>Kiara
Because i'm not Kiara

>> No.72227270

>>72194904
Kiara doesn't watch all their lives. She has to work as an idol and doesn't have time to sit and vet these people. She is having a streamer to streamer interaction that is merely surface level. Just like your understanding of the situation OP.

>> No.72227601

So has anything come out of this drama? Has Kiara said anything? Or even streamed since the tweets?

>> No.72227695

>>72194904
Kiara is a horrible judge of character. I guarantee you if Kronii were to have met them, she would fight them physically. Beat their ass

>> No.72227807

>>72194904
everything a streamer does is in the interest of boosting thier numbers. I don't want Kiara to interact with NijiEN. Therefore, the best way to do so is to convince her that further interaction at this time will damage her numbers.

>> No.72227809

>>72194953
spbp

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>>72194904
This isn't high school. Kiara interacting with Becky doesn't mean she hates Sally's guts and wants to fuck Christopher.

I don't know why people keep trying to do this shit.

>> No.72228179

>Kiara
>a good judge of character
Every single problem her rm had/has is a result of her POOR judge of character. Every single one.

>> No.72228982

>>72194953
spbp

>> No.72232534

>treat everyone like adults
I think it's unprofessional for HoloEN to be openly associating with NijiEN, when nearly every member endorsed that horrible black screen video. To act all chummy with these people in your public-facing accounts is wrong and shameful.

>> No.72234739

>>72196162
Already happened with 39daph
It's still ongoing if anything

>> No.72234858

>>72197830
Notice how kiara never specified them in her tweet
Then they all come up to say "OH HEY THATS US US US"

>> No.72235075

O hey, we are a week away from scheduled graduation. Yipiee!

>> No.72235714

>>72232534
It's not unprofessional to ignore rrats.

>> No.72235848

>>72234858
OK that's a bit of a stretch. These girls do it all the time.
"Oh I met a certain idol-obsessed MGS nerd."
"Oh, I met a cute witch at the mall today."
"I saw a cute pair of twins for the first time in years again today."

>> No.72236052

>>72194904
>NDF thinks a chuba renowned amogst her fans for having awful character judgement hanging out with some leeches for a day helps disprove the GURRAT.
kek. as someone who watches kiara frequently this proves nothing besides an incoming depression arc for her.

>> No.72237437

>>72196162
If they really tried doing this AGAIN it wouldn't be to save themselves. It'd be an attempt to kamikaze dokibird and drag her down with them, whether they see it that way or not.
It would also fail and pretty much tie a knot in the noose around Niji ENs neck.

>> No.72237731

>>72206606
No-one sane rightfully gives a fuck about Unicorns' fee-fees, least of all people outside of the Hololive fandom. Anyone who zeroes in on the Enna cuckery is probably a jilted fan of hers anyway who deserves to get cucked for having such garbage taste in oshis.

>> No.72237902

Reminder, there is one ultimate and final rrat. The truth that cannot be bared. The true seventh trumpet that will break not just nijisanji, but also this board, and possibly vtubing aa a whole.

enna is not part of the niji clique

>> No.72237984

>>72194904
Kiara is proven to be an awful person and bitch

>> No.72238428

>>72237437
Basically. The fans don't need justice, nor closure now. That ship has sailed. They need hope and comfort. This is not gonna give them anything to look forward to.
If they play their cards wrong even a bit, NijiEN will lose what little remains with them. If they play their cards right, they'll just die a slower death instead (but still faster than not doing this).

>> No.72238694

>>72206606
That's the only thing she did that was funny though

>> No.72243118

>>72237984
This

>> No.72243209

>>72194904
because we can obtain information, think, and come up with our own logical conclusions too

>> No.72243363

Kiara should be expelled. But would I be a schizo if for giving her the benefit of the doubt? I'm conflicted about something regarding Nijisanji because of yagoo being a fucking savior fag.
>Sees that Nijisanji is a dumpster fire
>knows his talents are universally loved everywhere.
>sends Kiara to hang out with millie enna and reimu to quell all the criticism because everyone favorite corpo is endorsing Nijisanji
>thinks that by associating his talents with Nijisanji would clear Nijisanji of every wrong doing and accusations.
I've been conflicted about this for the simple fact that cover and niji are business partners and like I said is yagoo's that kindness that worries me the most about this entire situation.

>> No.72243474

>>72194953
Didn't know that trannies count as men nowadays.

>> No.72243831

>>72194904
well lets see, kiara trusted:
>trash taste
>veibae
>nyanners
>ironmouse
>pomu
>elira
>enna
>millie
>reimu
>also considered collabing with homos before she was advised her not to

>> No.72243841

>>72194953
/thread

>> No.72243842

>>72243363
>sends Kiara to hang out with millie enna and reimu to quell all the criticism because everyone favorite corpo is endorsing Nijisanji
Kiara is known to collab with other corps. And still did after knowing about Pomu's graduation and when the Selen thing first hit. Her talking to them again means nothing. If Yagoo wanted to endorse Niji he'd sent Gura or Fwmo who's popping off right now; maybe a JP talent if he didn't want to signal just EN.

>> No.72244028

>>72197830
>She must've consulted with Mumei before the meeting.
Nice, you got any proof?

>> No.72244930

>>72200346
Qrd? Gorillian drama threads yet I never saw this mentioned.

>> No.72247182

>>72194904

>> No.72247199

>>72247182
Nice bump faggot

>> No.72247276

>>72243363
>Yagoo
>"sends" Kiara to hang out with other corpo talents
How the fuck does Hololive work in the universe you live in?

>> No.72247371

>>72243831
And the last one makes her a bad woman because your insecurities?

>> No.72249525

>>72216159
of course not

>> No.72249662

>>72235714
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o65VwnQvWW4
Almost every single NijiEN account uniformly retweeted the black screen video. Don't pretend this is a "rrat". It was a horrific PR blunder, and a permanent stain on all their reputations.

>> No.72249834

>>72194904
She used to suck old men for petty cash. Her judge of character is quite literally equal to that of the whores from Sublime's "Wrong Way" and Gallager's "Bad Penny"

>> No.72249963

>>72194904
Because Kiara is retarded, has the self esteem of a wet sponge, and is constantly seeking validation from every single person she ever interacts with.

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>>72194904
>Kiara who actually knows the livers in person

>> No.72251917

>>72243831
and you have no idea whether any of these people are actually bad, that's my point, you literally don't know any of them

>> No.72251990

>>72247276
In the sameone where he rushed 2 males branch brother.

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>Dragoons: Defended Froot of all people because she collabed and is friends with Doki. Their fanbase is one of the most welcoming, and they hate tribal idiocy, with the exception of NijiEN. Even when Kiara did this, Dragoons didn't hate her and even called us KFPbros."
>Nijisisters: LOOK! LOOK! KIARA VALIDATES NIJIEN'S BULLYING AND FUCK UPS. *processes to use Kiara as a shield*
>Kiara: Which fanbase do I want to associate with? Hmmmm, I think Nijis.
Wawa, why are you like this?

>> No.72252894

>>72251990
Sure, I live in that reality too. Not the one where Yagoo is telling talents who to hang out with because only someone off their meds would believe something like that.

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>Dragoons: Defended Froot of all people because she collabed and is friends with Doki. Their fanbase is one of the most welcoming, and they hate tribal idiocy, with the exception of NijiEN. Even when Kiara did this, Dragoons didn't hate her and even called us KFPbros."
>Nijisisters: LOOK! LOOK! KIARA VALIDATES NIJIEN'S BULLYING AND FUCK UPS. *proceeds to use Kiara as a shield*
>Kiara: Which fanbase do I want to associate with? Hmmmm, I think Nijis.
Wawa, why are you like this?

>> No.72254056

>>72251617
kek

>> No.72254947

i feel like it went on something like this.
>kiara and pomu are on good terms, and kiara, pomu and elira were on good enough terms to be in a collab together (kiara nerissa pomu elira)
>kiara is the easiest person to please, all you gotta do is be nice to her and praise her (see nerissa). this stems from moderate inferiority complex and living through the severe anti-ing she got in early myth days.
>pomu and elira are apparently still on good terms.
>the "grassroots" post from leaker anon referred to a "recently graduated vtuber" which everyone assumed was kyo
what if it was actually pomu?
>elira asks pomu to help her save her image, because they are still more or less friends
>pomu agrees because she's nice and eager to please everyone
>pomu tells elira the correct tactic to win over kiara, proceeds to meet her too, tells good things about elira n co
>the clicque meets up with kiara, wins her over by being overly nice with her
>kiara posts nice things about them
>????
>grassroots

>> No.72255043

>>72254947
everyone in nijiEN is a snake so it's possible

>> No.72255079

>>72253193
EZ PR
vs
EZ Scandal
and Kiara chose the scandal

>> No.72255205

>>72254947
Damnit Kiara

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>>72254947
>what if it was actually pomu?
I'd probably kill myself.

>> No.72255446

>>72254947
I don't believe any friendship between people in NijiEN to be genuine anymore, pomulen included, so I find this entirely plausibile.

>> No.72255797

>>72254947
Et tu, Pomu?

>> No.72257309

>>72194953
spbp

>> No.72257465

>>72237731
>probably
Anons outside the /nijiEN/ general don't know but Ennaschizo is behind a lot of this Kiara targeting. He IS a jilted unicorn, he's leaked her membership to dramafag channels, and often makes a space between statements

like this. He's a self-hating Chinese male who got made fun of by anons for being spotted in a wheelchair at Enna's meet & greet. Anyone who associates with Enna is evil in his eyes.

>> No.72257699

>>72194904
I don't like Kiara's character.

>> No.72257947

>>72194904
>>72254947
riddle me this, retards;
luv me Pomf.
'ate Enna.
'ate Elira
simple as.

>> No.72259042

>>72194904
What makes you think telling people they have poorer judgement than Kiara, using an Enna picture, was a good idea? Have a (You) for the good laugh.

>> No.72259189

I like Enna
Nuff said

>> No.72259243

>>72259189
I'm so sorry..

>> No.72259462

>>72253193
Dragoons were the nijisisters during zaion's time.

>> No.72259575

>>72194904
>What makes you think you're a better judge of character than Kiara

Well for starters Enna is in an off collab sharing naked photos of little children to her gen mates

>> No.72259640

>>72194904
>implying Kiara isn't also a bitch

>> No.72259861

>>72203355
Upper middle class white women

>> No.72260241

>>72259462
>Fanfiction

>> No.72260374

>>72253193
>Least obvious falseflagging Faggoon
Yup, Nijisisters totally were the ones to lose their minds over Kiara associating with the "clique"

>> No.72260551

>>72254947
You're a schizophrenic so your opinion is irrelevant. What actually happened is that people who know what went on behind the scenes knew that the one unstable menhera with a hate boner with her manager is at fault and when people didn't side with her, she decided to an hero because "muh friends betrayed me". Usually if 30+ people who knew what happened are against a single person's word, the 30 people would be less likely to lie if you're being logical in not assuming there's a secret cult

>> No.72260668

>>72260374
>Nijisisters totally were the ones to lose their minds over Kiara
Yes, because Nijiniggers made a shit ton of threads just like this one using Kiara as a shield for their shitty "livers." Meanwhile, Dragoons barely even talked about it and welcomed us in their thread. Fuck off Nijinigger.

>> No.72260902

Nice fanfics dokifags, but making Kiara an enemy isn't a good idea

>> No.72260965

>>72194904
You have it backwards, OP. It's because of all the reasons you listed that I'm a better judge of Enna. Manipulation works best close and personal. People are blinded and bias when they are too close. You can't be a good judge of your close friends so I don't blame Kiara for being misled.

>> No.72261004

>>72260902
Nice Projection Retard

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>>72200314
>Doki (a friend of Pomu

>> No.72261383

>>72194904
She's a post-ww2 European.

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>>72194904

>> No.72263446 [SPOILER] 
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>>72260902
Whooooooololoo hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha. Kek>>72259189
>>72260551

>> No.72263586
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i blame mori

>> No.72264263

>>72200346
Gumiho? As in the very succesful SC2 player Gumiho?

>> No.72264323

>>72254947
Reminder:
https://youtu.be/BpAIgtdOBxk

Pomu doesn't have contact with anyone of the likes of 39Daph and has been avoiding speaking on the Vtuber drama pretty much entirely, with the only comment being "I can't believe things had gotten that bad" which is not exactly a statement in Niji's favor, never mind her cry fest about how bad management was, that she specifically unprivated to get the message out, andt was so bad Nijisanji re-privated it. If she has any friends left in there, she wants them out.

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>>72263192
>Jan 2024
>Best year of my life
Never seen the universe correct itself harder than that before

>> No.72264790

>>72264323
>never mind her cry fest about how bad management was, that she specifically unprivated to get the message out
I mean, she only unprivated the member streams because a random guy from chat asked her to do it, she probably didn't remember about that stream

>> No.72265216

>>72264790
>she probably didn't remember about that stream
DYRBI?

>> No.72266086

>>72254947
I can't see Pomu doing this intentionally.

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>>72254947
If this actually turns out to be true, then I'll throw all of my Pomu merch in the garbage bin.

>> No.72266541

>>72194953
You will never be a man, roastie

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>>72194904
No.

>> No.72267004

>>72259462
Sincroknight here, the Goons never did anything wrong to Zaion/Sayu. Fuck off with your false flagging bullshit.

>> No.72268711

>>72195059
People this schizophrenic are more of a danger to vtubers they're trying to "protect" than the people they're trying to protect them from

>> No.72270621

>>72194953
Came here to post this
spbp

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>>72194953
spbp

>> No.72271677

>>72260668
>But...but... The faggoons in their thread were nice to me so it must have the Nijisister

You sound easy to scam

>> No.72271742

>>72263446
The Dokifag has a mental breakdown when confronted with the truth. A tragic fate for a schizophrenic

>> No.72271745

>>72271677
Ogey Nijinigger

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>>72253193
I'm relatively new to supporting a menhera streamer but I hope things work out for your oshi too.

>> No.72271927

>>72266086
Yeah, she didn't do it intentionally, she doesn't need to when Doki's narrative is so incredibly flimsy and it becomes increasingly clear she was just having a BPD meltdown while accusing people she was chums with not even a month before of being "bullies". It makes no sense. Elira went to bat for her during their offcollab too, when Enna and Millie kept pressuring her to make a sexy voice Elira stepped in and asked them to lay off since Selen did not want to. Doki clearly snapped and burned all of the bridges she had over there and all of the normal people who committed the sin of just wanting to play video games for a living had to pick up the pieces

>> No.72271987

>>72271916
Thanks

>> No.72276899

>>72194949
kek

>> No.72277922

>>72271927
It's actually quite sad and probably bad for her that the public decided to award her mentally ill antics causing her friends to be witch hunted. She probably thinks she could get away with anything online now since the Internet just basically running with the narrative that she did nothing wrong

>> No.72278395

>>72271927
>>72277922
What fuck are you retards talking about? Doki never wanted any of this to become public. It was NijiEN management who made it public. Doki hasn't even talked about herself only responded. Also, are we back to the whole "BPD" thing? Move on, the situation is over.

>> No.72278922

>>72278395
So tell me who was the one to pin two suicide attempts on someone? What was that a response to? Because they never mentioned anything medical related and only she did. She was also did make things public and never denied threatening to make things public either, she even practically said as much when she says "I wouldn't have made things public if things didn't go the way they did" in the return stream. So are you going against her word now?

>> No.72279004

>Draging others who were not involved in this
>Timelooping
It's over move on.

>> No.72279184

>>72278922
Who cares. It's a month old already. Get your fill of drama somewhere else. Everyone involved is trying to move on. Doki, Elira, and so on are trying to move past this. It's over. Shut up.

>> No.72279360

>>72279184
All those people aren't me, faggot. I'll be satisfied once we know what actually happened

>> No.72279376

>>72278922
>"I wouldn't have made things public if things didn't go the way they did"
In response to the NijiEN termination post.
>response
My point still stands. Like >>72279184 fuck off retard.

>> No.72279516

>>72279360
>I'll be satisfied once we know what actually happened
Not going to happen, unfortunately. Reality is boring. Nothing will be answered.

>> No.72279539

>>72267004
Lol. You are good now. But if someone else had tried to an hero you bet that selen would be the one retweeting a video. Plus what difference does it make? Everybody who doesn't agree with "everyone except selen and sayu were in the clique" bullshit is a sister anyways.

>> No.72279659

>>72279376
If it was in response to the notice, she'd have just said it and not confirm what they said in it
>>72279516
You would be surprised in how many times some big Internet drama gets turned on it's head because somebody decides to spill the truth

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>>72194904

>> No.72279858

>>72279659
Question, why are you so invested in this? Who is your Oshi or whatever? Or are you just some Dramatard?

>> No.72280010

>>72279858
Only a retard reveals who their oshi is here. It's pretty interesting all the dramafags are now trying to bury things after Kiara was revealed to be friends with the "clique" too. Didn't know so many faggots were all on Yagoo's payroll

>> No.72280368

>>72280010
>First off
Fair point
>Second off
Kiara adds nothing to this. Her interaction with them makes no difference to the situation.
>Third off
The clique was always just a rrat. But a rrat that doesn't take into account human error and behavior.
>Last off
"Yagoo's payroll" kek that funny.

>> No.72281086

>>72279360
Well the timeline is simple at this point. You want it? Fine.
>Doki attempts to get her year in the making Christmas project out. Doki gets fucked by management for the Xth time, this time with a mysterious new rule that says that they need to check permissions again and potentially edit the video. Doki says fuck it, I don't want to deal with any of this anymore and makes the tweet telling people to just fucking pirate it, drops a giant discord message about at least the dragoons will be able to enjoy it, and tries to kill herself.
>Radio silence for the next few days before she mysteriously shows up at home on twitter with a hospital band and starts doomposting about how depressed she is, but at least she's alive. She starts grinding apex again and working on her emote commissions. She's clearly suspended and awaiting a gigantic punishment for her breakdown.
>mid-jan, company tries to force her to take the fall for the MV fiasco again and refuses to accept even partial blame. Doki attempts to take her life again out of desperation and doesn't want to deal with this shit anymore. Parents find her, save her. Doki finds Palworld and gets lost in it for a few days.
>late jan: Doki's resolve tightens after palworld and she says fuck it again, she doesn't want to even be part of the company anymore. She wants to graduate immediately and gets a lawyer to help her end the contract. Talks start with responses being frequent, but eventually they get completely ghosted.
>Feb 5: Lawyer thinks it's a good idea to show them the journal that Doki's been keeping for the past several months to help her case and speed up the process. Two hours after it's sent, the termination notice is posted and Doki's fucking stunned. Says she's not going to be silenced anymore after the two months of silence on Selen and full month of public silence on Dokibird.
>Doki makes return stream and spends 90% of it talking about random shit and how much she missed her community. Last 10% is her saying that she's sorry but the termination notice itself is a bunch of hogwash and that she's prepared to defend herself legally if they try to attack. Tells people not to harass anyone. She makes a new schedule to try to start her career over. First game is neopets.
>Feb 13th, 30 minutes before the neopets stream, a tweet goes out by Elira Pendora, with nearly all of the current Niji EN members boosting it. The black screen video goes live as soon as the neopets stream does, and after a few minutes of a fun stream, she receives messages talking about the black stream. She visibly breaks down again as she stammers her way through her words, trying to keep herself together and possibly continue playing the game she scheduled before simply stating that the messages that are being shared through the video are lies and that she has receipts to back them up if they are required legally, and implies that they have knowledge that absolutely should not have been shared with them due to them having been sent directly to AC's lawyers. AC immediately tweets out that somehow the organs don't have a NDA for information that's shared with them so they're not legally liable or some bullshit. It's completely disingenuous and reads like a scared ESL intern wrote it. Riku Tazumi's bowing video comes out. Apologizes to the shareholders for their shitty management. Doki releases her statement on twitter about the second attempt and the timeline of her termination. Repeats not to harass people.

This is about as far as Doki's personal involvement goes. Everything else is just the sisters seething, and she has made no public statements or slandering comments towards Nijisanji despite the termination notice and black stream. I'm pretty sure this is accurate except for not being sure if Palworld happened before or after the second attempt.

>> No.72283991

>>72194953
cringe

>> No.72284207

Even the biggest homobegging SEAflip on this god forsaken board has more common sense than that westoid blm mudshark roastie

>> No.72285393

>>72260551
that logic doesnt work when corpo-cocksucking is involved tho. nijien is filled with losers who are afraid to lose their job because they know theyre worth nothing on their own, especially if their reputation is tanked by the truth getting out.

>> No.72285687

Sisters fanfic
>>72260551

What actually happened
>>72281086

Cope and seethe sister
>Verification not required.

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>>72194953
spbp

>> No.72286927

>>72281086
Your timeline is shit and full of schizophrenia. Here's what actually happened

>Selen is a BPD menhera not fit to work in a proper Japanese corporation so she's constantly getting into fights with managers. Leading to managers for her being switched constantly
>Selen sends her video to be reviewed last second on Christmas to her manager and they say they need to perm check for some things after a day of waiting
>Selen goes full menhera and blatantly disregards orders then calls for her followers to reupload her music video.She refuses to fix the situation so they suspended her.
>A couple of members question her on what she did and say that it was unnecessary and put a lot of stress on them. Maybe they even tell her to just do what the manager says which she, in her unstable mind, sees as her friends betraying her and harassing her.
>She attempts to an hero then tells the members and her manager about it before she's wheeled into the Looney Bin.
>Her manager decides to give her back access to her account so she could update her audience on her situation as this has never happened in the company before
>She gets out and she's back to being suspended until she publicly owns up to her contract breach. So she seethes and writes a document accusing her friends of harassment, managers of favoritism and Elira of getting Enna and Millie nepohired through recommendations
>She shows it to a lawyer, they get to the negotiation table and she tries to get them to unsuspend her and they say no
>This cycle goes on for most of January
>She makes a request for a graduation and they continue to insist she will stay suspended until she clarifies what actually happened to the public.
>Negotiations are going nowhere. In a last ditch effort, she sends the document to Nijilawyers and threatens a lawsuit against the company and employees as well as a public accusation against them if they don't comply so they immediately fire her
>They try beating her to the punch and write out their POV of the situation to prevent their street cred being ruined by her allegation

She literally couldn't have known what was being said in the stream so I'm just chalking it up to more delusions as she admits to falsely assuming shit on Twitter later that day and never denied anything but instead tries to clarify what happened like with Elira 's address not being given or her not intentionally recording Vox

>> No.72287132

>>72286927
>Fanfiction

>> No.72287624

>>72286927
>>Selen sends her video to be reviewed last second on Christmas to her manager and they say they need to perm check for some things after a day of waiting
Never happened. There's absolutely zero chance of this happening. She wouldn't have even been allowed to start the project without full permissions, let alone be able to put it on her fucking schedule. She's STILL anal about schedules to the point where yesterday she said how relieved she was to finally be able to put out a schedule early since she wouldn't need to have perms checked for it in advance. Don't you think the responses to "cover check. Here you go." would've been more "what the fuck is this, when did you make this" and not simply ghosting her for 37 hours the day before before the scheduled release that was already on her schedule, as well as the after talk, which must've been confirmed in advance as well?
>She literally couldn't have known what was being said in the stream
...What? She was clearly looking at something off camera. You can follow her eyes. She was being fed what they were saying live. How on earth can you even come up with this?

Also, if she's this psychotic BPD menhera... wouldn't she have snapped and tried to attack back at ANYCOLOR after their scathing attacks on her reputation rather than just saying the bare minimum and actually moving on like she promised, continuing to churn out projects even faster than her time with a corporation? Attacking her constantly like this will NOT fix their reputation. It will not bring back the lost subscribers, the lostt viewers, the lost donators. She could drop dead tomorrow and Nijisanji EN would still be rotting.

>> No.72288167

>>72194953
kek

>> No.72288326

>>72287624
>Never happened
BAHAHA. The screenshots show it happened exactly as said. They knew she was gonna make a cover but didn't know what she'd have in the music video considering most covers have little animation and is just of still art of the model singing. Selen never sent them the video, it's even labeled with a 1. Selen putting shit on her schedule isn't proof they gave permission for anything either, they don't write schedules for people
>She was being fed what they were saying live. How on earth can you even come up with this?
The irony. Show proof she was getting fed a transcript of everything they were saying while they were saying it. Because she just became aware of it, didn't mention anything specific about what was said in the video and didn't even know what document was being talked about
>Also, if she's this psychotic BPD menhera... wouldn't she have snapped and tried to attack back at ANYCOLOR after their scathing attacks on her reputation rather than just saying the bare minimum
She threatened to in the stream you're talking about, you fucking worm. The only reason she didn't is because her lawyer tard wrangled her from airing out the entire case online in which everyone would see she was wrong. And what attacks on her reputation? "I feel betrayed" isn't an attack when it's just how they feel after being secretly accused of harassment

>> No.72288444

>>72286927
>it was revealed to me in a dream

look at the readily available facts instead of the crazy fanfiction the doxxsite is feeding you

>> No.72288493

Different thread same argument. Nijisisters need to move on.

>> No.72288544

>>72288326
Sister you've been spouting this exact same fanfiction for a month now. Aren't you bored? Doki's moved on. She's doing fantastic while your branch slowly crumbles to dust. Maybe focus on improving their own reputation first before trying to knock her down?

>> No.72288661

>>72288444
>>72288544
HOLOSEETHE

>> No.72288751
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>>72288661
...Seethe?
Sister your branch is so dead that Doki literally mogged your entire branch put together a few days ago. What on earth do you think I have to seethe about?

>> No.72288763

>>72288326
>The only reason she didn't is because her lawyer tard wrangled her
nijimangement would really need lawyers like that
>from airing out the entire case online in which everyone would see she was wrong.
yeah just keep believing that

your whole point hinges on the fact that she doesnt do the stupid thing of leaking legal documents, so you can just make shit up about whats in said documents. you would make for the worst lawyer in history.

>> No.72288795

>>72288751
Not even denying being Holofag falseflaggers. Grim

>> No.72288842

I don't even think it's a Nijisister. It's a Dramanigger looking for (You)s.

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>>72288795
Why would I give a shit? I watch streamers, not corporations. I'll watch Doki, I'll watch Fuwamoco, I'll watch Uruka.
Sorry that it's such a foreign concept that everybody would hate your company for its shitty actions. Maybe you should invest less on fruitlessly attacking someone who escaped than actually supporting your organs so they might be able to afford enough to eat.

>> No.72289019

>>72288763
The only thing that was made up is the nepohiring shit because no one has any clue why the location was included in the document without it being specific addresses. Both Elira and Vox talked about the case of "harassment" and Vox about the favoritism. Anything else is made up because no one knows

>> No.72289031

>>72206606
Enna hates unicorns and does have a nasty tendency to mock her fans but I doubt Kiara would have gotten close to her if doing that would have burnt bridges with Mumei. Unicorns want Enna to be a monster that bullied Selen but there has never been any indication of that. Still not a good idea for her to be getting close to NijiEN after a huge public scandal.

>> No.72289204

>>72288795
damn, how do you move the goal posts when you're such a weak pathetic worm.

>> No.72289671

>>72288795
sister, you know what falseflag mean?
srly, don't use words that you can't understand

>> No.72290039

>>72194953
spbp

>> No.72290346

>>72254947
>what if it was actually pomu?
More likely than pomudachis might want to think.
I'll give pomu some minor slack in that people having a mental breakdown have a tendency to turn on those who offer them help and perhaps that happened so she's sided with elira and her old connections over doki.
but it's very clear pomu was always "in" with elira and that has not changed despite what happened. at best she's incapable of choosing to do the moral thing over her friendships and at worst she partially or fully agrees with elira and her three stooges.

As for kiara she's just a retard when it comes to recognizing manipulative snakes. nothing sinister going on with her.

>> No.72292001

>>72290346
Proof next thread, right?

>> No.72294124

>>72195042
cringe

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>>72254947
>>72290346
I'm a simple pomiedachi, all I desire is complete dookie death

>> No.72296213

Enna love

>> No.72296288

>>72194904
Well if sisters are dedicating their lives to flag any sort of evidence that shows how low of a person Enna is, I suppose all her shitty public actions will be memory holed (or so sisters expect)

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>>72194953
zased

>> No.72296478

>>72194904
The only way I can comfortably watch NijiEN again is if that stupid black "livestream" is deleted before Elira returns to her channel. What a stupid fucking video approved by Anycolor ""lawyers"".

>> No.72296515

Didn't she get mixed up in that softcore wrestling porn in her PL? She's an actual idiot

>> No.72296758

>>72194953
SPBP

>> No.72297960

>>72254947
Your entire rrat hinges on Pomu still being friends with Elira to this day. Which is completely out of the question unless Pomu is a complete sociopath, which, if you watched even one of her streams, you'd know it's not true. If you listened to her last Twitter space, you'd know she was traumatized by her experience in Nijisanji. Why would she defend a previous employer that fucked her and many others over? Have you forgotten the once in a lifetime opportunity that was shitcanned immediately without any consideration?
>>72266439
>>72290346
>>72294814
Neck yourselves, you fucking antis.

>> No.72298708

>>72289031
Hololive despite being in the position to remove nijisanji english would rather keep them around then to have to acknowledge the existence of smaller corpo vtubers and thier adjacent friends .

>> No.72299035

>>72297960
It also hinges on the idea of people being divided into black and white camps. Good and Evil. For Doki/Against Doki.
It's fucking stupid and implies that by being friends with one person you condone and endorse everything they've ever done, and that it somehow branches out to all of THEIR friends and so forth.

>> No.72299200

>>72297960
pomu was traumatized by something she found out after she left

>> No.72299299

>>72299200
Yeah, and answer me this - did the blacked stream happen before or after she left?
To be fair, i'm only inferring that it was that stream that traumatized her, but it's very plausible.

>> No.72299322

>>72299200
This. It was learning about doki recording all their private conversation and keeping the conversations from their private discord they had just for the 2 of them.

>> No.72299359

>>72299322
>believing le retard de Vox Akuma
Away to the doxxsite with ye, creature!

>> No.72299376

>>72299359
>muh vox
Mindbroken wumao

>> No.72299384

TL:DR Every fucking thing in this thread defending Enna boils down to this
That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.

>> No.72299404

>>72299384
so true sister #DARVO

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>>72299384
this but dookie defenders

>> No.72299430

>>72299376
Yes, muh Vox. Because who was it that claimed that Selen was recording everything, you mongoloid?

>> No.72299471

>>72299430
Huh? What do you mean?

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>>72299471

>> No.72299561

>>72299322
>>72299471
You hit your head, pakichan?

>> No.72299566

>>72299546
Could you extrapolate?

>> No.72299610

>>72299384
Nah, they've looped several times. They absolutely cannot comprehend the idea that Doki had absolutely nothing to do with Nijisanji being a self-destructive shitshow. She was just the macguffin that caused them to expose themselves.

>> No.72299612

>>72299566
Watch the black screen stream again, for fuck's sake, where is your object permanence? You actual five year old

>> No.72299693

>>72299612
Huh? What do you mean?

>> No.72299835

>>72299471
>>72299693
Trying really hard to push this thread over 300 posts huh?
You know we should really start making more rentrys because they won't disappear even after a thread page 10s.

>> No.72299862

>>72299835
Can you extend your thesis?

>> No.72300060

>>72299835
Don't worry, there'll be a new one as soon as this one dies, ready for another fresh 300.

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kiara and enna seriously should collab if they decides to strengthen their newfound friendship, im salivating just from imagining the contents coming from these two.

>> No.72300954

>>72297960
I'm not an anti, which is why I'm hoping the rrat isn't true and Pomu is not involved.

>> No.72301047

>>72299427
Stop predending to be Pomudachi, sisturd.

>> No.72301151

>>72194904
Why the fuck then would she showcase it publicly. Like shit it's only been a month what was she trying to fucking prove.
>Oh hey be understanding guys you don't know the full picture, you don't know anything about us, shut the fuck up dookie supporters

Is this it to not tell anything, literal just a little nuggets of truth the fucking truth with no NDA bullshit to calm the audience down and reduce the increasing evidence of clique behaviours.

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>>72301047
>pretending
There's a reason we pomudachis kept calling dookie/shartlen "diaper furfag"

>> No.72301213

>>72300954
Don't "hope" it's not true because it's literally not true. Why would it be true, after the once in a lifetime opportunity that was denied? And after something unspecified clearly traumatized her?

>> No.72301250

>>72301172
Literally what? What the fuck are you talking about, not one pomudachi ever said that.

>> No.72301289

>pretending to be Pomudachi now that they've been btfo out of pretending to be hoomans.
Huh, how weird. It's almost like I haven't seen the hoomans who hate Doki in several days despite how busy they seemed to be.
And when they showed up, the Ruffians who hated doki left, too. I wonder what's going on?

>> No.72301292

>>72263586
mori only likes you if you like her
Otherwise she makes songs about you

>> No.72301351

>>72301250
>this newfag doesn't know about how pomudachis ran fagoons away from /nijien/ in 2021
Educate yourself https://archive.palanq.win/vt/search/text/diaper%20furfag/order/asc/

>> No.72301414

>>72194904
If Matara, notPomu, and notKiara are willing to publically admit they met up with Millie and Enna, I feel like it's arguable that they weren't really part of any sort of bullying.
I'm still going with the rrat that Selen made things hard for everyone in NijiEN with her insubordination and that turned off the other livers towards her for the most part(except Pomu).

>> No.72301422

>>72301151
Clout and brownie points once she gets out of hololive since she can't take off like Calli with her music. But she did still earn a lot of money so the only thing left is to do whatever she wants even shit on the vtubing audience while she's at it. Earning the favor of those looked down upon would gain her future defenders if ever she does make a mistake.

>> No.72301436

I'm too ESL to be following all this anymore. I'll be in my comfy /gem/. Later, virgins

>> No.72301438

>>72301351
Not a single one of these faggots is a pomudachi. Try harder. Also,
>educate yourself
Tits or gtfo.

>> No.72301459

>>72301438
>cope cope cope cope
This is what your post amounts to :)

>> No.72301522

>>72301414
Pomu did not "admit" to shit. Kiara hanging out with Enna and with Pomu are two separate occasions.

>> No.72302215

what da heck this thread is still alive? I've seen this in the Catalog for more than three days already.
Well no matter, keep up the good work anons, Enna deserves all the flak she's getting.

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>>72194904
>Kiara who actually knows the livers in person and knows more about their true personalities
Come on now. Besides Pomu, she just talked with them once or twice.

>> No.72303139

>>72299430
Selen literally admitted to it , you fucking idiot. Why are you still trying to believe he's lying if Selen admitted to it?

>> No.72303251

>>72303139
Selen admitted to precisely ONE instance of recording. It was pre-checks before a collab.

>> No.72303268

Enna and Kiara probably bonded over ASS 2 ASS

>> No.72303752

>>72303139
...She had a recording left over from a collab. What on earth are you talking about? \
>>72302215
We'll likely make another one after this one dies. The sisters can't drop her that easily.
I don't actually give a shit about her. I find it hilarious how defensive they are despite not actually supporting her channel in any way.

>> No.72303818

>>72303752
Like i always keep saying. They will betray her and Elira if they graduate/get terminated. They're such fucking hypocrites

>> No.72303889

>>72303251
Yeah, that "pre check" included him speaking about the AR live tweets and not being punished for it. She kept that recording and used it in her document. He literally never said Selen was wearing a wire every time they spoke

>> No.72304101

>>72303889
>that "pre check" included him speaking about the AR live tweets and not being punished for it
You only have Vox's word on that, Doki didn't confirm that.

>> No.72304207

>>72303889
...So what's the problem here? It's bad that she kept a recording by accident, and happened to find it useful, especially since her country allows her to use single party consent recordings in legal documents?

>> No.72304330

>>72304101
I'm ready to bet that Vox didn't even know what was recorded exactly and he was just crapping his pants knowing it could be some compromising shit.

>> No.72304386

>>72304101
And why the fuck wouldn't she deny it if she was already addressing the stream in the same tweet?
>>72304207
Fucking psychopath. What kind of person secretly records their friend to use in a legal document against his workplace? Are you actually arguing she kept the recording on accident too? Pretty convenient accident since apparently this is the only recording from Vox kept. And why would legality matter? She obviously thinks it's scummy too because she's trying to argue she didn't intentionally record him and include that in the document

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>>72304386
Hey, hey
Here's a thought.
Maybe you shouldn't fucking do bad shit if you don't want it exposed.
Maybe if Nijisanji didn't have such obvious fucking favoritism and awful business practices they wouldn't shit their pants at the idea of her recording something.
You're just mad they got caught.

>> No.72304489

>>72304386
If the company that employs you fucks you over and you don't have receipts to fire at them right back, you're a fucking retard. And Doki didn't even fight back either, at least, not in a way that is visible to the public.

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>>72304472
>You're just mad they got caught.
Nah, they're mad they don't have the exclusive Vox recording to schlick to.

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>>72299322
>traumatized by learning her friend was almost bullied into unaliving
>traumatized by learning said friend was documenting evidence of the hostility of the work environment which led up to those events
Sisters always seem to avoid Occam's Razor like the plague for whatever reason

>> No.72304704

>>72194979
tpbp
No wonder they say this board is full of trannies

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>>72304704
>they
>doxxniggers

>> No.72304879

>>72251917
You absolutely know that multiple people in that list are bad human beings

>> No.72305164

>>72251917
>and you have no idea whether any of these people are actually bad
anon all of those are confirmed cloutchasing grifters, whores and bullies with multiple episodes each

>> No.72305352

>>72304639
>friend
lmao

>> No.72305410

>>72305352
>t. Pomu and Elira are BFFs trust me guyz!

>> No.72306078

>>72305410
You just had to watch streams to realize that, meanwhile Nina was crying during her graduation stream talking about how fucking unreachable Selen was because outside of her few apex friends she doesn't want to connect with anyone else

>> No.72306280

>>72306078
Lmfao, nobody cares about Nina.

>> No.72306380

>>72305410
NTA, but honestly this whole situation soured me a lot regarding friendships within NijiEN. I'm just going to assume they were all keyfabe until proven otherwise.

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>>72306078
>being bullied by talents and other management
>doesn't want to hang out
>is bullied for not hanging out
>still makes them a bunch of free assets anyways because she's in love with the idea of the company rather than the people themselves
>gets bullied by said company until she tries to kill herself
I love my nijisanji family.

>> No.72306914

>>72304472
The fact you think Vox was more upset that the company he was shitting on for canceling the AR live was being "exposed" and not that his friend secretly recorded him to use in a legal dispute without telling him proves faggons are autistic. She obviously thinks the same way which is why she's trying to avoid admitting to doing it. Complaining about "favoritism" is retarded since Luxiem gets perm fucked all the time and they only get the most deals and merch because they are the most popular
>>72304489
Doki pinned two suicides on them and accused them of harassment while refusing to post evidence. That's fighting back

>> No.72306986

>>72304639
>Occam's razor is whatever delusional idea I come up with to fit an agenda
The simplest answer to why someone wouldn't want to be recorded without their knowledge is because it's an invasion of privacy. Not because they're secretly a criminal, you retard

>> No.72307052

>>72306914
This entire post is a fucking fanfic and a half, you're supposed to argue with facts, sister.

>> No.72307323

>>72306442
>Pushes everyone away
>Leaves their discord
>"Why is no one supporting my bad decisions??? Am I'm being bullied????"

>> No.72307502

>>72306914
OK, so why does Elira have over three times the amount of merch as selen and pomu, who vastly outsell her any time they get merch? How come Luca's still employed? Why wasn't Luxiem forced to make an apology after shitting on management for the AR live cancellation? It's almost as if there's blatant favoritism going on.

>>72307323
nice fanfic

>> No.72307518

>>72306914
>Vox was more upset that the company he was shitting on for canceling the AR live was being "exposed" and not that his friend secretly recorded him to use in a legal dispute
So Vox chose the company over his victimized friend? He's a cunt and a fucking hypocrite, in your best estimate.
>>72307323
>Pushes everyone away
While still slaving away on projects that benefitted everyone?
>Leaves their discord
She was never invited to that discord.

>> No.72307703

>>72307518
>slaving away on projects that benefitted everyone?
You mean "wasting money to put up a face"? Selen always tried to push this fake unity bullshit when it was very obvious that she wasn't close to anyone, the whole problem with her privated MV was featuring graduated livers she wasn't even close to, probably didn't even knew they needed permissions since she wasn't talking to anyone who did something similar before, it's actually kinda funny that she tried to kill herself twice and got fired for including people who didn't even gave a fuck about being on her side after she got the boot

>> No.72307834

>>72278922
She didn't pin two suicide attempts on someone. She claimed she made an attempt on her life after reaching a breaking point due to bullying rooted in mismanagement. All this alludes to is a bad work environment and doesn't point towards anyone in particular. Based off her word alone, mismanagement is the root cause.

Niji's termination mentioned bullying by affiliated livers. They shot their own foot. Doki didn't even point the gun. No one even dared point the fingers in a talent's direction until the corpo did. You have the reading comprehension of a chimpanzee cocked up on cannabis.

>> No.72307895

>>72307834
Normal people don't try to kill themselves, suicide attempts are always the fault of the person holding the blade

>> No.72307983

>>72306380
Pomu and Elira have been friends for years before either of them got into niji or even started vtubing.

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Mumei is too autistic to talk about drama with Kiara

>> No.72308217

>>72307895
Anon, I would've listened to your opinion fifteen years ago before someone I knew committed suicide. As it stands, you're just ignorant. All it takes is a single google research to see the statistics for suicide attempts (both successful and failed). But you won't. You're willfully ignorant. Be happy you've been blessed to keep people in your life, and that they never have to read the shit you spew on this board.

>> No.72308308

>>72307703
>wasting money
Fuck off with the "a nail that's sticking out gets hammered down" bullshit. Being ambitious isn't a sin.
>Selen always tried to push this fake unity bullshit when it was very obvious that she wasn't close to anyone
Do the names Pomu and Rosemi not mean anything to you? What about even fucking Vox and Enna?
>whole problem with her privated MV was featuring graduated livers she wasn't even close to
First off, no one gives a fuck about the MV anymore. Second, the problem with the MV was always the incompetence of management. Management fucked her over at the last second god only knows for what reason.
>since she wasn't talking to anyone who did something similar before
Absolutely impossible. Once again sisters ignoring the input of of artists and producers who worked on MVs.
>she tried to kill herself twice and got fired for including people who didn't even gave a fuck about being on her side
Do you not understand the concept of a last straw? She was constantly forced to apologize on social media for management's stonewalling her. For two years she was taking it like a champ until she just couldn't anymore. And with the added context of that artist's leak on reddit, she was most likely forced to do naked dogezas in front of higher-ups, amongst them Igarashi and Fumoto, who are Riku's fucking friends. They're protected by Riku himself, they are untouchable. No fuckup can ever be traced back to them, otherwise it's gonna be Riku's ass on the line.

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