/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Ugly soul, ugly vtuber.

>people quietly unfollow because they don't like whores
>you obsessively look at your follower count and tracking it with your mentioning of you being a whore
>have a spergy on Twitter
Imagine feeling that entitled to a follow from random people.

>>72166178
People again misunderstanding the relationship between an idol/vtuber and her fans.
It's not about believing that any one individual in a fandom has a chance. It's that the vtuber is in a parasocial relationship with the entirety of the fanbase, and having a boyfriend, or letting on that you have one, betrays that relationship.
If the vtuber has someone more important in her life who fills the role anyway then it's pointless.

>>72166178
Attention whore at it best. I bet she doesn't have any unicorn or whale in the first place.

>>72166178
I hate what this hobby has become.

>>72166178
>Random 2view
>Time of tweet cut off
Is posting this on 4chan is another desperate tactic to gain views?

>>72166178
so whats mrs cleft lip's content

>>72166178

She's right, she's not gonna make it in this industry but she's 100% right.

>>72166178
>1view tweet screencap thread

Why not just fleshstream with her guy then?

>>72166450
I don't understand how this works out. You can have multiple things that are important to you. If you have a child and a SO doesn't mean that one of them has to be unimportant.
And then as a fan, shouldn't you also aspire to be in a relationship? Are you betraying your oshi if you do?

>>72166178
Who?
If they are wasting time on noticing literally every single unfollow on xitter then it's problem with them. Literally retarded vtweeter roleplaying as vtuber.

Should I stop mentioning my boyfriend? NO! It's the viewers who are wrong!

>0.005 Finana literal who makes a statement
Okay, and?

>>72166178
Stop trying to discourage this, it's a good thing that whores self report so everyone can make an informed decision off the bat.

>>72167142
It's an easy way to get traction. Made OP advertise her here after all. That's assuming it's not someone from her community doing a little cheeky false flagging.

>>72166947
it just ruins the illusion is all, when you stream as a vtuber your main product is escapism for your viewers and personal stuff like this ruins the illusion.
>If you have a child and a SO doesn't mean that one of them has to be unimportant
i dont understand why you think close family is anywhere comparable to random viewers on the internet.

>>72167178
We should discourage them not deleting their channels.

>>72166178
This will probably lose her far more viewers than letting it slip desu

>>72166947
It's really simple. If you're a conversational streamer, YOU are your "content." People want your content enough to put up with being supporter-zoned. If you rub it in our faces that other people are getting a better deal, that doesn't feel good.

>>72166178
>Panders to incels
>Do things to drive incels away
>Incels come back....
Do femnons really?

>>72167475
This, tho I'll say that it's OKAY for vtubers to have family and wife and children and shits. Issue is that some of them don't understand value of privacy and scenic illusion and do literally everything to not only ruin experience for their viewers but also put their family under fire.
Keeping private and online lives separate is bare minimum of internet safety and these retards keep making everything to become actual targets when some actual creep will decide to target them.

If you want an illusion go talk to Chat GPT and stop encouraging these girls to be lying sociopaths.

>>72166178
even if I didn't care about a bf I'd leave after this. it usually leads to the guy making repeat appearances where they really make sure you know they're a couple

>>72166652
>relatively unimportant vtuber tweets something the unicorns hate
>MUST BLOW HER UP ON 4CHANNEL.ORG/VT/ BECAUSE SHE MADE UNICORN ME ANGY
The complex you retards have is just highly entertaining.

>>72167969
they could just not lie about having a boyfriend in the first place, cuck.

>>72166178
technically this position is fine to take as long as she is not expecting to make any money or ever be that famous doing it, because that is most-likely what'll occur if she does not have any notable skills/abilities/creative drives to her and expects to be rich and famous literally just for being female and playing an anime character online. it's -almost- that simple, but the audience will logically not actually give you any money if they objectively know there's very little point to it because they know 100% fact that symbolically, they're playing a game that was already over before it started.

granted, you can say many/most vtubers are like her in that aspect, but the ambiguity, that not-100%-confirmed status, is the absolute lifeline psychologically for making literally this entire thing work the way it does. you can't just hook into it and not play by its rules and expect to get the same results, you won't, unless like I said you actually have some skill or knowledge or something that makes people like you for reasons besides hurr it's a cute animegorl.

>>72167475
>when you stream as a vtuber your main product is escapism for your viewers
Good God you people lack self awareness.

>>72166450
...What if they don't want to be an idol?
Aren't you just projecting your values onto them and then blaming them for not living up to it?

>>72167969
Nobody's forcing these grown women to skinwalk online to farm affection and cash. If they don't want to play the game, they should fuck off and get a real job

>>72166178
Lady, if they are just quietly unfollowing you instead of @you to announce it, then you can just ignore it, dont make a problem when there is none, it will just make more people leave.

>>72168082
what are you trying to imply exactly? that viewers are lying to themselves about watching vtubers as a form of escapism?

>>72168188
Have you SEEN the fandeads?

>>72168205
i know for certain that they found escapism in watching rushia when she kept her illusion going. still not sure what youre trying to imply

>>72168252
retard

>>72168205
I have and I really wish I hadn't. People who still like Rushia after all this shit are just fucking embarrassing, they make normal vtuber fans look like sane straight-shooter chads in comparison.

>>72168285
i accept your concession i guess?

>>72168188
"Escapism" is a meaningless buzzword, anon.

>Sperging out in a thread made about a woman who's posting her IRL on her VTubing account.
>Sperging out about a roastie who does OF content on an NSFW account that is linked in her Vtuber bio.
This is why societies in the past controlled women like they were property.

>>72168299
Shit. That guy makes me look like a 7/10 in comparison. And I am likely as deeply unwell as he is, just less ugly.

>>72168107
vtubing came out of idol culture. Don't look away from that at your convenience.

>>72168425
>vtubing came out of idol culture
vtubing came out of streaming

>>72168328
you don't even know what "buzzword" means if you think escapism is a buzzword. you are either retarded or trolling

>>72168039
>>72168128
There are plenty of actually single vtubers out there. Encourage people to be honest and support who you want to instead of cheering on antisocial behavior.

>>72168252
...they're still with her despite them always talking about how she's the ideal GFE specimen.

It's fucking retarded to see them continue to make excuses for why Mike should be forgiven, but the fact that X hologirl had a boyfriend in 2015 on her facebook that they somehow found means they're a grifting whore and should never have gotten into hololive, followed by them actively harassing her everywhere they think she can see it.

>>72168425
>he believes this
Never ending entertainment.

>>72168411
Bitch looks like a clown with all that paint on her face.

>>72168425
modern vtubing came out of streaming you moron. it's just an alternative to facecams these days.
vtubing as a concept came out of edited youtube videos.

>>72168452
Lots of early vtubing was pre-recorded video

>>72168506
the people you are describing are not regular viewers, they are obsessed white knights. there's a big difference here compared to people who unfollow a vtuber because they found she has a boyfriend

>>72166449
Imagine following someone, unfollowing them in a fit of rage once you find out they are in a relationship and still creep around on their feed.

>>72168452
did Eilene stream?
Because Kizuna AI did not start out streaming

>>72166178

>>72168603
>unfollowing them in a fit of rage
damn even unfollowing quietly makes sisters mad huh

>>72168156
but then she can't get likes from twitter

>>72166178
doing this AT ALL is always a shit move.
>any unicuck fans are lost, which are a huge moneymaker
>any GFEfags are lost, which are also pretty good moneymakers and views
>anyone who isnt a fan is probably turned off from this cause you just look weird
>"epicly pwning the haterz" opens you up for being trolled harder
nobody wins. youre just gimping yourself. if you have a boyfriend and wanna talk about him, at least dont announce it like THIS.

>>72166178
We dont slutshame here

>>72168462
That's exactly what I'm saying. But you're fucking insane if you think that most women, including women vtubers, are honest about these things.

This person has ~5000 followers, an average between 10 and 30 viewers, and the only tweets they have with any large engagement is literally the OP's tweet.
Genuinely, without even a hint of irony, who the fuck cares?

>>72166178
when you tweet something like this it just makes you look pathetic and insecure

>>72166178
I can't pinpoint as to why but the face is kind of unappealing.

>>72168664
NTA but if all people did was unfollow quietly it wouldn't even be an issue.
The problem I have is when we get shit like people asking in red superchats "please never ever collab with a male or I won't send more"
as if they're holding them hostage or some shit, then sending spambots or whatever if they don't get what they want.
You're allowed to like, follow, unfollow whatever you want. Just do it without fucking people over for not living up to your "standards" and instead work to find people who fit them...

>>72168425
RMAO

>>72168880
>The problem I have is when we get shit like people asking in red superchats "please never ever collab with a male or I won't send more"
literally when does this ever happen

I would never watch a movie if the female lead has a boyfriend. I will turn the radio off if the singer is married. I go to the library annd hide all the books by female authors in relationships. I don't ride the bus because the lady bus driver has a ring on her finger. I have been barred from the local Wendy's because the server refused my polite but adamant request as to if she was single or not.

>>72166178
like clockwork

>>72169012
kek her bf is ok with her doing this shit?

>>72169054
niggas be desperate

>>72168974

>>72169012
>her 5 fans are cucks
>but also her bf
Rumao

>>72169135
>doesn't want males
> has a hundred thousand dongs to spare

>>72168603
>he doesn't know how Twitter works

>>72166178
Having a boyfriend is fine for vtubers as long as they keep it behind the scenes, otherwise the numbers will plummet because most of vtuber fans are lonely single humans

>it's an illusion
>it's the rules of vtubers
>it's cucking the viewers
>they're whores anyway
>we're in a relationship
>women amirite
only the best fans in this thread

>>72169441
I think not acting like an entitled cunt about it is the more important part

>>72169392
Usually when I unfollow people I stop seeing their tweets

>>72166178
I bet she uses "I have a boyfriend" to deflect unwanted attention.

>>72168033
>OP is clearly trying to make unicorns seethe for (You)s
Sisters just can't help themselves with strawmanning huh

>>72168880
no one is being fucked over though, fans are allowed to say their grievances if a streamers suddenly makes a shift with their content and the streamer is allowed to concede or tell them to fuck off.
streamers are not privy to get money from fans no matter what they do and fans are not privy to stay a part of their community

>>72166449
>Being in a monogamous heterosexual relationship makes you a whore

>>72168411
>This is why societies in the past controlled women like they were property.
They still do, in Islamic countries. Sharia law is unironically better than feminism

>>72169392
anon... when you unfollow someone, that means you normally don't receive their messages in your feed.

>>72169582
can't we have a middle ground where you don't have to either live in an oppressive islamic shithole where women are property or modern feminism where women are encouraged to be loose sluts

>>72166178
Buy an ad

>>72168107
>>72166947
People are free to not be idols or follow the eastern "idol culture". No one is stopping them from being open about their personal lives. Likewise, viewers are free to follow or not follow whomever they want for any petty reason. The streamer doesn't owe you a parasocial girlfriend experience, and you don't owe her your support.
It doesn't change the fact that lonely men with disposable income are less likely to engage with vtubers who are open about their RL relationships. Because yes, it breaks the fantasy. If you don't like it then you better work to attract a different audience. Because streaming is not a fucking charity and those lonely guys don't owe you money or support by default.

What's so hard about this point to understand for those who are anti-idol culture? Even veibae said it herself, that it's simply "bad for business"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWenizmDJ_M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMhoVI5BrWU
Compare to this clip from a few years ago lmao. Honestly i'm surprised these don't get brought up more often in these discussions.
https://streamable.com/v92q8o

The short of it is if you can build a large enough normie audience then yeah it doesn't matter what you reveal because that group won't care about BF/husband. But as long as you court the weeb/incel/GFE audience, then you have to accept your income is gonna get a serious debuff if you're open about relationships. That's just how the streaming world works and you're not gonna make them care any less about your status any more than they're gonna convince you to keep real life separate from streaming.

>>72169698
Sure, in America at least that would start with repealing the 19th Amendment and taking women out of the workforce :^)

>>72168452
Fuck off streamer/entertainment cuck.

>>72168069
>as long as she is not expecting to make any money or ever be that famous doing it
The tweet is literally her complaining about losing clout for talking about her BF.

>>72169582
When you become a shahid in minecraft, allah blesses you with 72 vtubers.

>>72169860
Peace be upon him. I will pray 5 times a day while I enjoy my harem

If your core personality trait is that you somehow managed to get a boyfriend (who is probably blind, deaf, and retarded to be able to put up with your bitch ass) you should not be competing in a sphere that is highly dependant on your personality (as looks are in relative equilibrium so long as you don't intentionally choose an ugly model). If you refuse to admit you are competing in the sphere and are merely doing it as a hobby, then you cannot complain about your numbers dropping, period.
Retard.

>>72169831
NTA but this girl's a moron.
The idea isn't wrong, though. But she absolutely shouldn't be the one complaining about it when it goes against her content specifically.

>>72169783
that's too extreme for nowadays people would never support it, I think bringing christian morals back into the mainstream would be far more beneficial and realistic

The day vtubers understands that is not about "having a chance" and more about how this industry is full of lonely fans that want a fantasy instead of being reminded of normalfag life....maybe just maybe we can have another vtuber BOOM in popularity

>>72168925
>>72168511
>They can have boyfriends if they want bigot! Let them live their lives!!!!!
>completely ignores context that popularised vtubing as a matter of convenience
Let me tell you how I know that you also think that a man can become a woman.

>>72166178
I think there's a big divide between the eastern style and western style vtubers.
Eastern style = I am playing a character. The Vtuber is an idealised version of me. We are inseparably tied to each other, but we are not the exact same.
Western style = I am me. The vtuber avatar is just "makeup".
Obviously you have westerners using the eastern style and the opposite too.

>>72169975
The problem with morals is that they're hard to uphold or adopt and easy to get rid of or ignore. For the masses who lack honor, self-respect, honesty, and self-control, there is only one outcome when attempting to introduce morals, and only one outcome when convincing them it's okay to get rid of morals.

>>72168411
LMAO she has so many filters going on it's practically not an immersion break at all. Just another type of model.

>make content people like
>people stay
>replace content with boyfriend that people don't like
>people leave
no one could have seen this coming

>she checks her follower count constantly
>she observes whenever it changes after every single post
>she extrapolates that to knowing why people unfollowed even when they do so silently and without raising a fuss
>this bothers her greatly

>>72170027
No, the division is more in attitude towards the audience. Eastern = we are entertainers, here to entertain an audience. Audience doesn't want x so we won't talk about x. Western = I am a strong powerful woman entitled to an audience, I don't care if audience doesn't want x, they will put up with it or else I'll sick twitter on them and publicly humiliate them.
Same shit with le fan service = le bad mentality. It's called fan service because the core fans want it, these trendhopping faggots don't like it because they only like whatever is considered cool to like that particular year. Same thing is happening in vtubing, that's all.

>>72166178
How did she even know people unfollowed her because of that? Why does she care? Aren't the parasocial fucks supposed to be vtuber fans - not the actual vtubers?

>>72166178
on one hand, she has a point. on the other, >>72166449

>>72166178
>Western woman
>understands absolutely nothing
Classic
Really takes a special kind of autism to join the roleplay community just to get upset that you are supposed to pretend

I don't give a fuck if you have a boyfriend in your private life, I just don't want to hear you talk about them on stream

>>72168603
Unfollowing is a right of every free citizen no matter race, gender, religion, disability status, etc. You fascists need to calm down a bit.

>>72168411
So she's just a baiting grifter, got it

>>72168425
>>72166450
Vtubing is doing video content with an avatar. Using an avatar is not something new or limited to Japan, but basic internet culture.

>>72166178
biggest problem isn't even her having a bf, it's the entitlement of thinking she deserves followers

>>72170506
This is pretty much my stance too.
I don't care what the person does, as long as it isn't something extreme like having sex with primates.
But if you force me to care, you won't like the result.

>>72168128
>>72168039
You are heavily incentivizing them to lie about having not having a boyfriend, you retards.

>>72170620
My bad, turns out humans still count as primates.
I meant niggers.

>>72169975
Those are Christian morals. One of the tenets of being a Christian wife is submitting to your husband

>>72166178
>retarded twitch whore breaks immersion
>loses 75% of her viewers and 95% of her income
I hope our resident /wasp/ies take notes on what they shouldn't do.

>>72170194
this. streamers think they deserve to get money no matter what they do or what their fans think, mostly because they look at the 1% top streamers and think they should get the same treatment

>>72170614
No thats what codemiko does
There's a lot more to vtubing than having a moving png in the corner

>>72170620
but anon... humans are primates...

>>72168813
Why would they be if they get attacked for being honest?

>>72170666
I reject your money and substitute my boyfriend

>>72166178
Isn't this years old?

>>72170509
I wish the reality you live in comes to pass where big men in dark leather coats come to your house, put a gun in your mouth and force you to watch all the girlfriend-havers through teary eyes.

>>72170717
No it was posted yesterday but multiple entitled 2 views have basically posted the same thing as her

>>72168880
People can say and do whatever they want, just like you. You're not fucking special.

If you think you're fucking cool for disrespecting people on your social media, then don't complain when they act the same way.

>>72170619
>>72166449
>feeling that entitled to a follow from random people
>entitlement of thinking she deserves followers
There's some weird going on here, because that's not actually in the tweet. You're just seeing what you want to see.

Oh, it’s her again, kek.
>>/vt/thread/70308127#p70314877
>>/vt/thread/68755556

>>72170815
NTA but that is indeed the implication of her post. She wants the followers back but also wants to scold them for being 'le incels'

>>72168880
>The problem I have is when we get shit like people asking in red superchats "please never ever collab with a male or I won't send more"
They're trying to stop history from repeating itself. How is this a problem when they're trying to save the girl's career while also giving her money.
It's the solution, not the problem, you imbecile, you absolute fucking buffoon, they're investing in her.

>>72170818
weird how those 100k views and 1k likes on twitter translated into 0 new viewers :)

>>72170915
Probably even resulted in lost viewers.

>>72170915
It's almost like it's not worth pandering to Twitter trannies who will never spend money on you

>>72170915
>>72170960
>>72170970
Also people never leave Twitter to watch things on YouTube or Twitch

>>72170904
This man just invented grooming.

>>72170985
The only reason to have a twitter account is to shit on trannies and heil hitler. Everything else is faggotry

>>72166178
Don't know who she is, but she's right.

>>72170657
I'm talking about like basic ten commandments shit dude.

ok
im not watching
dont care
enjoy ur life
not japanese

>>72168880
>OF whores mad at SIMPS
like isnt that what she wants? now she doesnt want these simps?

>>72166450

>>72171047
You can't just pick and choose if you want a Christian society. They are going to follow Christian marriage vows which entails the woman submitting to the man in terms of being the provider. And as the provider the man gets the right to manage finances and vote for policies since he is the one keeping society functional

>>72169698
no,you choose one,the world isnt you made up fantasy,the reality isnt perfect as you wish,you choose islamic where women tardwrangled to the max but stop doing stupid shit or you let them loose and become whore,you choose

She should have secured a famous 5view millionaire boyfriend before being open about it. Skill issue.

>>72171180
That isn't going to happen overnight bro, I'm talking about getting to a point where women aren't encouraged to go and party while taking xans and fucking multiple dudes

>>72171309
I never said it would. But the good news is that over time Christians will win because they have more successful marriages and have more kids than secularists, so we just have to play the long game

>>72168107
Then I can also opt to neither watch or support them. No one is owed my support.
Vtubers can do what they want, but so can viewers.

>it's fine if you don't want to pander to unicorns, just warn them beforehand and they'll leave you alone!
>vtuber does exactly that
>unicorns sperg out about what a whore she is and how she's betraying the holy idol culture

>>72171564
>beforehand

>>72166178
Who?

I don't understand why some indies (and some corpos) do this. I'm not into GFE chuubas and I don't have an issue with male collabs but I don't have an issue with people who do. Getting pissed at people choosing not to watch you because they prefer GFE or even just CGDCT and them silently unfollowing you is bizarre behaviour. And all the validation they get on twitter never translates to actual views or money because the people who like these kinds of call-out posts on twitter are clip watchers at most, the majority probably don't even do that.

>>72171564
>why are people unfollowing me :(((
cry about it

No one wants to watch roasties, especially not if they turn out to have boyfriends. It's funny to me that she's trying to somehow make the "chuds" out to be unreasonable for leaving because of that

>>72171564
>make it clear you're not unicorn friendly
>unicorns and CGDCT viewers unfollow accordingly
>"WAAAAH, WHY ARE MEN SUCH INCELS?!"
She's whining about people silently unfollowing her; she's the one sperging out. She's not owed viewers.

Honestly fuck women. I will now only watch fellow bros who are confirmed Incels.

>>72171564
this doesn't work if you try to do gfe/pandering content anyway and then claim "b-but I told you!" - if you put a warning sign saying that you're going to sometimes spit onto the food you serve and then people stop ordering at your restaurant, are you going to blame the customer for not wanting it and simply avoiding you?

If you had malice in it instead of just some stupid delusion that somehow it was OK to do this as long as you warned the customers then there'd be no excuse, but even if you warned them you really can't complain that they actually paid attention to you and did what you wanted, not get the food if they don't want spit.

>>72171727
She doesn't say anything about incels or being owed viewers.

>>72170882
>>72171852
Hey retard I told you above it's the implication of her post. Stop being retarded

>>72171852
Explain why she is complaining about losing followers.

>>72168411
And her opinion is disregarded. She has a boyfriend to provide for her / grift off she isn't going to make it if she wants the kayfabe audience she better having an entertaining personality like Vei and just be a twitch thot.

>>72169565
t. whore that wants the supas of an intact hymen while sporting aged roast beef

>>72171918
You're living in fantasy land.
>>72171932
She's saving you the trouble of finding out on some doxxsite.

>>72169012
wew

>>72172017
>She's saving you the trouble of finding out on some doxxsite.
That is not an answer to tge question.

>>72171564
She literally does nsfw content

>>72171800
In your comparison there this is like if the OP girl thought that her food is just so fucking good and amazing that people will come eat it anyway even if they know there is spit in it.

Why they get like this, I dunno, I could just chalk it up to woman moment but I think it is not really that even because someone like this is more rare in the JP vtubing scene (albeit they do exist there too). I would guess being brought up with a stupid take on feminism meaning "you should expect men to give you what you want even if it is against their interests" or something because she must think she is so great and special just for existing. Granted sometimes men are the problem here too by being too much of coddling simps telling girls how great and perfect they are that their perception of the world starts to warp as well.

>>72168411
Another malfunctioning mass produced e-whore. I thought the factory learned not to make these after the "Veibae" model malfunctioned.

>>72172053
You haven't asked a question and misinterpreted the tweet.

>>72172111
Why is she complaining about losing followers? Answer the question you ESL fucking knuckle dragger

>>72172149
That poster is clearly a woman as well trying to justify being an absolute degenerate slut

>>72170756
It's always sad to see retard coping. This is being in the internet, put all the chances you can on your side, if you can't break with you BF before starting Vtubing, then that mean you will neve be able to compete with someone who is ready to do it, and even less with someone who will do it. Nobody should expect getting more than the others if they don't sacrify more than the others.

>>72172063
Basically she must come from the onlyfans/camgirl world where simps openly don't care what her status is and is surprised that there is at least some standard / expectation for vtubing about this that it's fairly taboo for most girls to delve into openly.

What she doesn't seem to get is that people watching NSFW don't care because they don't want to try to just hang with the girl and chitchat, they are there to get their rocks off and blow a load and as long as the girl delivers on that they are happy. With vtubers they don't do this and the girl has to take on a different role entirely, being a socialite, entertainer etc. Really this is so much fucking easier to understand with Japan because they have geishas and that is not at all unlike what vtubers do, but in the West this is a kind of unheard of/unused niche still so it will confuse girls quite often as to what this is all even is about and how/why it works.

>>72170687
girl in op isn't being attacked for being honest. She's being attacked for being a rude cunt about it.

>>72172247
In short. Westerners are barbaric retards.

>>72170194
I agree whole heartedly with this. The amount of 2 views I've seen snap because it doesn't go their way I drop instantly. It's always wahh why isnt it easy and a jealous yab. Fuck off with your entitlement if you had a genuine reason to vent like work stress it's fine or a project was a complete failure at least the effort was there. The audience are never idiots a good chunk play dumb to immerse themselves. They can smell bullshit so just be genuine person who is happy at a hobby shooting to be entertaining and maintain your real privacy and selectfully share intimacy.

>complain when unicorns make a fuss while leaving
>complain when unicorns don’t make a fuss and leave silently
damned if ya do damned if ya don’t

>>72169565
Being a vtuber for other men makes her a whore,yes.

>>72170687
You dont go on national television on a contest then honestly say 'o by the way, I was in jail for a few years'. No one needed to know or wanted to know.

>>72168033
All boards are now under the 4chan.org domain only btw

>>72168880
lol get fucked loser, fans will continue to ask for no male collabs and cute girls will gladly agree and make the content fans want. Most of them don't want to deal with all the gross male groomers in vtubing anyway.

>>72166178
>>72168411
>>72169012
>flesh poster with nudes and a bf
>reeeee I can't believe people are leaving

>>72172936
>cute girls will gladly agree and make the content fans want
*smart cute girls

>>72173057
I follow a couple of 2-views who are pretty much retarded and even they know

>>72166178
A vtuber with a bf is gross. I don't blame the woman, but either the bf is a cuck or a wannabe pimp and both are sad things that I don't want to think about.

>>72167969
There's a reason why people say vtubing will slow down once AI girlfriends get better. Some people are just that lonely (and retarded)

>>72166178
>>72166449
I didn't know we had become the twitter mod justice everyone complains about. Just don't watch.

Back in the day
>Viewers sperg out and announce they're leaving or whatever
>"Don't like it? Don't watch! Stop whining and leave!"
Now
>Viewers leave without a single word
>Numbers are down
>"OH YOU GUYS DON'T like me doing this/that EH?! FUCK YOU!"
Streamers deserve the rope.

>>72173962
>Just don't watch
That's what people are clearly doing. What's being discussed is her having a melty over people doing that.

>>72166947
>If you have a child and a SO
retard opinion discarded

Everyone wants to be everything at once, it's an ego trip. Some vocations close doors, and have things you should and shouldn't do, but somehow there are always those who think they are special and it doesn't apply to them

>>72166450
>random twitch indie that does NSFW cosplay/voice acting
>idol
This is what watching Hololive does to a mf, completely delusional starting point

>>72169781
Nothing to do with idol culture, anyone working in entertainment has better numbers if the advertise themselves as single and/or attractive regardless of what they're doing. This applies to everything from vtubers to artists to book reviewers to nature documentary channels to actors to musicians to fucking weather ladies. It is entertainment 101 not idol 101

>>72168880
you don't belong here go watch fleshtubers

>>72172619
These girls talk about their lives non stop. Awful attempt at an analogy.

>>72170739
Dude, it's a Twitter follow.
Touch grass

>>72166178
>Literally who
You aren't the first complaining about it neither will be the last. Now get your 2 minutes of fame and go suck your boyfriend's cock.

>>72169565
woman with an onlyfans monogamous lmao

>>72166178
Unfollowed for using the word "partner" instead of just saying boyfriend.

>>72168107
Then fuck off. We already have enough grifters on this hobby, do you want more?
The indie scene already is just e-thots 2.0, thank God every week dozens of them graduate

>>72168411
Her boyfriend can't even kiss her cheek without worrying about choking to death.

>>72168603
>you can't unfollow someone or you're a creep
Really can't win with sisters huh

>>72169781
god her voice and accent is so fucking annoying. how do people stand to watch her.

>>72171564
on them should have made this clear from debut

>>72169012
>Amazing loving boyfriend
Who won't love their partner when they're a cuck that accepts everything?

>>72169565
>having OF doesn't make you a whore
You're a woman, 100%.
Online prostitution makes you a whore no matter how much bitchs try to normalize it.

>>72166450
interesting point, maybe if you're so obsessed with make believe you should just stick to the disney channel instead of watching streamers, sounds like that would be more up your alley
>>72168039
who in OPs pic didn't lie though.... are you good? seems like you're having a stroke or something
>>72168107
yes, that is literally the mental retardation that makes unicorns the joke of the vtubing hobby, always has been that way
>>72168425
>playing games for other people to watch is based on concerts and faggotry
that's why i love browsing /here/
entertainment value from some retarded freaks here is truly unmatched
>>72169135
that akasupa is just fucking wild bro, holy shit
what has to go wrong in your life to be so unbelievably retarded holy kekerinus maximus
>>72169565
the fact that there are some lower class people actually retarded enough to think this unironically is an interesting mix of funny and sad
>>72174381
>incel doesn't understand the simplest family dynamics
it's even funnier the 381st time lol

>>72175445
You're probably Crystally and you are mentally ill

>>72175445
>this level of mass replying
Are you the girl in the OP or some other 2view who's angry about not doing well? Either way posting /here/ isn't going to help; just be more entertaining.

>>72175686
it's just a mentally ill anon who occasionally mass replies

>>72175445
no one cares whore back to onlyfans

>>72166178
L+Ratio parasocial fucks

>>72175445
A tip for you, 2view. Pick one of the following: do what you enjoy doing and grow slowly but organically, or follow the market and hope you stand out enough to get dedicated fans to market for you and make you successful. You had better be an actual entertainer if you wanna be yourself, otherwise you need to find a hungry niche audience or provide what the market lacks. Better yet, hire a manager to do the hard thinking for you if youre this fucking tone deaf to a hobby youre invading.

>>72166178
>>72168411
>people find out she has a boyfriend
>they quietly unfollow and don't make a fuss
>autistically monitor follower count and feel the need to sperg over it
>NOOOOOOO HOW DARE YOU UNFOLLOW ME REEEEEEEE
Jesas. Anyway, both the vtuber model and her are ugly as fuck and the latter more filtered than the majority of asians too so she's probably even uglier than that. She should just ditch the vtuber avatar and flesh stream with her boyfriend instead. Tired of seeing these grifters.

>>72166178
i dont caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaare

>>72175445
>seething 2view with no understaning of what made vtubers grow big

>>72175445
These are the kind of subhumans cunts like the OP whore are bringing in by the dozen on a daily basis, with no idea of what vtubing is or how it came to be so popular to begin with. Kill yourself you retarded subhuman newfag.

She'll just cheat on her boyfriend at some point and drop him once she realises that she's no longer getting numbers

>>72177209
They typically fizzle out or just remain wholly unaccomplished until they inevitably reveal their 3DPD ways, so I guess it’s whatever. Their only real mindshare is on Twitch, and even then, it’s minuscule overall.

>>72171564
This has nothing to do with unicorns, not wanting a taken female is a basic male instinct. Not many of us have what it takes to go around fucking other people's women. What ACTUALLY happened here is that she does coomer content, got a coomer fanbase who sent her sexual shit in private, she went "ewww" and decided to shield herself with I HAVE A BOYFRIEND YOU KNOW, STOP.

But you can't do that and expect to receive their money too, that's retarded.

>>72166178
Her coomer content is done for. Suck to suck lol

>>72166178
She is dumb, she should have said that she is single and never had a boyfriend, and also how lonely she feels.
And that she is a hikikomori that never leaves home.

This is the recipee for success.

>>72169988
this, it's not because every fan/unicorn unironically thinks they can get her, there is something completely missing the point there in that line of thinking

it's that we know they're playing a character to some degree (sometimes quite thickly acting it actually) and if it's supposed to be some kind of unreal, ideal anime girl, well those usually aren't gonna be taken and then chastize you for even daring think about her like that. that's not a comfy environment to be in.

>>72178018
also she conveniently loves all the ecchi and loli anime that otaku guys do and that's totally not pandering pickme behavior at all

>>72166450
I actually assume that any woman sane enough to do stuff consistently is probably in a relationship, at this point it's about respecting the medium and it's audience. You know we're lonely and you know why, so you're either here to continue attacking us or you're not. You're not actually going to pull a fast one when it comes to emotions, they don't work that way. Hell, if one was a really slick political operative they'd realize that emotions are the security system they're trying to avoid, compared to actual thought they're big, slow, loud and non-negotiable. When will you stop being offended by the word "whore" and look at what's going on?

>>72169975
> I think bringing christian morals back into the mainstream would be far more beneficial and realistic
lol in that case 99.9% of you motherfuckers on this website would be fucked. You subhuman psychopaths fail at every single Christian value, and will be burning 2000 degrees in hell for all the things you do, say, and believe.

>>72178702
Inshallah, bring back stoning and women wearing garbage bags. Free Palestine.

>>72178018
>I'm still butthurt we lost a ton of face to a fat hafu over harry potter
visible

>not separating your vtuber persona from your irl self
NGMI

>>72166178
People who have to scream out that they have a boyfriend don't actually have one or at most are in an abusive relationship.
Nobody actually cares if you're in a relationship and unless you're doing GFE nobody should care.

>>72166178
LITERALLY who

>>72178878
Nta but wtf are you rambling about?

>>72166178
I dont know who this usless whore is but i hope others who are hiding there bf's come out, makes it easier to know who not to watch. Also this chick does nsfw content and has a bf... Guy must be a cuck, thats just sad that he allows this

>>72178018
Nene amano is that you, i duno what i hate more, the whores who hide that they have a bf or the ones who pretend they are just like the losers in the chat.

>>72166178
What do you mean you don't want to pay for her boyfriend's condoms?

>>72178066
There is this complete inability for many normalfags (trying to become a vtuber or otherwise) to understand how much vtuber audiences play dumb as part of the bit. They just fundamentally can't grasp it.
For the vtuber wannabes that's why they are constantly baffled as to why their audience, which seemed to eat up everything that came out of their mouth, suddenly starts rapidly evaporating when they try to pull something especially blatant, and for the normalfag viewers it's why they keep trotting out the same (often wrong) doxxshit as though any highly invested fan wouldn't already know it willingly or otherwise.
They just can't fathom that in order to enjoy stuff more, people are willing to suspend their disbelief, but obviously if you go up to them and keep slapping them in the face with it, don't be shocked and pissed off when they start talking about shit you don't agree with.

>>72168452
Fucking newfags...

>having a boyfriend makes you a whore
explain this to me

>>72180670
What normalfags lack when trying to be a vtuber is knowledge of what anime is and anime culture is.
Vtubing isn't just slapping some 2D character over your face and calling it a day, you're supposed to be playing a character. You need to keep up the bare minimum keyfab to make it work or you just end up sounding like a retarded roastie and get 2views at best.

People who watch Vtubers don't watch it to watch real people, they watch it to watch anime. Otherwise they'd just watch facecam streams instead.

>>72166178
>Most of us are purely here to make content
Why do OF whores act like their content is high quality? It's just you showing your body.
I don't understand how many OF whores are so arrogant when their livelihood relies on selling yourself online.

>>72180935
>selling your body online isn't being a whore
explain this to me

>>72180935
doing coomer content while you have a BF is kind of whorish

>>72181131
women always act entitled because they were born with a cunt
narcissistic whores like belle delphine who only got popular because of their anatomy always think they got popular because they're special or put work in or something

>>72181179
Sex work is empowerment, chud

>>72181179
>>72181184
oh so she's a whore regardless
got it

>>72166178
Your oshi thinks the same btw.

>>72166178
>>72181184
So she is mad because people don't like getting cucked?
Miguel's gachikois are going to love this one

>>72175445
>collecting all of the posts you hate to comment apathetically chiding anons as mentally unwell
>being mentally healthy

anon we're all crabs in a bucket no need to tug on the others. there's probably a reason why people discuss them the way they do and why the most popular agencies are the way they are. its kind of silly to treat the two as wholly unrelated now go back to setting up all your mud figures so you can kick them all to smithereens.

I mean if you highly sexualize yourself and are parasocial AF then I will see your service as far worse than before if you have a boyfriend
Everybody knows its RP but it still ruins the experience

>>72166178
gfe unicorn arguement aside, personally you should know by now to have an opsec on the internet when going into vtubing. which is an instant fail for this tard because she did it on her main fleshie account

>>72175563
>You're probably Crystally
no, sry to disappoint
>mentally ill
just like (you), that is literally a requirement to be /here/
>>72175686
neither, i'm not a streamer
>>72175799
that's where whores belong, yes, proud of you for knowing this
>>72176441
idk what you're talking about bro, maybe you meant to reply to somebody else? i'm not a streamer
>>72177051
many such cases, nothing new
idk how that has anything to do with what i said though
>>72177209
???
wrong reply i guess
>>72180935
nothing to explain
retarded subhuman incels have literally no idea how relationships work in case you haven't noticed
>>72181835
>anon we're all crabs in a bucket
i'm not even gonna deny that
it's just fun to see some schizos /here/ go absolute ballistic over the most normal basic human interactions
entertainment, like visiting the zoo and watch the monkeys, if you will

>>72166178
Aliciaxlife still has loyal fanbase even tho she makes videos with her husband because of how she raised her fanbae,she still is really chill with her fans

this one view suddently nukes her carrer because she dosnt know her fanbase naruhodo

>>72182123
>insult fans
>"wtf why am i getting hate"
???

>>72168414
Not breathing through your mouth as a child has such a profound and deep impact on the development of your facial structure.

>>72166449
SPBP

Is her boyfriend single?

If all you're doing is grooming like Rushia as an e-whore with an anime avatar facecam then dont be surprised that people care about your relationship status
The fat retard who donated 1k to you probably did it because he has some attachment to you and not because he enjoys your "high quality" slop

>>72182123
>retarded subhuman incels have literally no idea how relationships work in case you haven't noticed
I prefer to die a virgin raped by a black man than to be the boyfriend of an OF whore.

>>72182123
>???
>wrong reply i guess
Nope. It was directed at you. I should've known you'd be too retarded to understand that though.

>>72182123
The only one going ballistic is you, anon. People are just pointing out it's bizarre behaviour to get angry at people because they don't want to watch your content.

>>72166178
Who?

>>72182627
Just another Vtuber with 6k followers out of the content mill
Maybe as with all stuff on the internet its just a lie to grab a bit of attention

If you have a BF then he should be supporting you financially. You don’t need my money nor will I give it to you.

>>72166178
How did she know that the reason people unfollow her is because of her boyfriend?

>>72167553
It's why I unfollowed and I subbed from another twitch indie. It's hard not to see the writing on the walls even when they're trying to be subtle
>I got kicked out of my apartment so I'm going to live with a friend's dad
>now I'm moving back in with my mom until I can move out again who knows when that will be
>just a few short weeks later
>going on a cruise with my friend
>will be gone for a while as I move to Canada my friend
>me and my friend bought a house in Canada
I genuinely don't care if you get into a relationship or have a preexisting one before you start streaming, but don't rub it in my face or lie about it. Could easily have just said you're going on vacation then moving, the friend part makes it very obvious what you're doing

>>72166178
This is comparable to a stripper taking her boyfriend to the Night club where she dances, announcing it to everyone and then getting angry because nobody gives her money and guys leave the place.

>>72166178
Unlike real idols vtubers can easily hide their boyfriends and husbands but they still fuck it up. Women are retards. Love from Kazakhstan.

>>72175445
no matter how many times you justify yourself and how you spin it, you will never stop being a failed whore.