/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>72016583
Let's see
Normies hate vtubers in general
But Mori committed the grave sin of upsetting african american normies by appropriating their culture of... music that rhymes

>>72016583
Nanananana Nani the fuck?

>>72016583
Because she said the N.

>>72016583
Twitter addicted 14 year olds are not "normies", normalfags have no idea who she is. Besides, shitting on Mori for twitter clout kind of fell out of fashion a while ago, there was barely any seething on the suicide squad thing compared to what you'd see a couple of years ago.

>>72016583
It's "cool" to hate her

>>72016583
Because she's an objectively bad singer. And her being "popular" only makes for a weird dichotomy where her music gets traction from the simps who idolizes every thing she does and then it gets pushed to the normies with working ears and common sense. And whenever anyone questions why she's a popular singer despite being terrible at it it just gets labeled as hate by the simparmy

>>72020122
>Because she's an objectively bad singer
this is some insane cope
she's a dogshit rapper but she is absolutely not a bad singer lmao

You put her singing rap for 10 seconds and say it's shit and you'll have 10 billion people saying the same.
It's very different compared to when there's some "drama" and you have to watch a 20 minute long youtube video about it.
Add in what those anons said too.
>>72016700
>>72018783

i fucking hate that normies hate her. it makes me need to defend her because these 'people' lump the rest of holo in with her, same with chumpedos to general holo fans.

she's the white girl supreme who made it
though i think her rap sucks compared to her regular singing

>>72016583
>normies
probably because she said nigga once. Also she's white.

>>72016583
success breeds jealousy

>>72016583
They are mad that their mumble rapper that sells drugs to children as a side job gets outperformed in every way by a white woman using an anime avatar that works for a japanese company

Her music is not very good

>>72020122
I would disagree on that, her regular singing is more than decent. And judging by her covers, she can adapt to sing different styles quite well too. The rapping is a bit more blurred. Personally most of her rap tracks are not my cup of tea with the exceptions of "Mera Mera" and "End of a life". Something about her style choices just don't capture me personally.
but yeah, saying she is a bad singer is objectively wrong.

>>72016583
I have no strong feelings about Mori, and I am not a rap fan to begin with, but hearing her rap has the same effect on my ears as the sudden image of a dead, bloated, maggot-infested human face has on my eyes. It's cringe in a literal, visceral sense, it makes my body have a single physical convulsion as I compulsively try to squirm away from what my senses are telling me when I realize what I'm hearing.
I assume her regular singing is a lot better but Mori's inherent lameness is infused directly into her rapping and I just can't stand to hear it.

>>72016583
Because she is a wigger who tries too hard to rap and it's fucking cringe and garbage.

>>72016583
Everyone hates her except for about 3k remaining deadbeats.

>>72016583
Eh, lets be fair
A portion of this board hate her too

>>72016583
Her rapping sounds like when children's TV shows include a rap segment. It's just kind of cringe, using a genre built on hard cutting spiteful lyrics in a kid friendly way. In turn she's a lot like kiz bop or Christian rock, it just takes something that can be good pretty good and sanitizes it to the point of mediocrity at best

>>72016583
Everyone needs a dog to kick. Callie's just low enough hanging fruit to appeal to whoever makes up the terminally online Twitter/SoundCloud-fag demographic now.

>>72023919
>wigger is when j-rap

It's so easy to tell who the deadbeats are ITT

>>72016583
because she is so feminized now

>>72021817
Maybe you should just hang yourself, deadbeat.

>>72016583
>only normies hate her
Thats rich. Im not going to entertain a holoxholo scenario; but i dislike her because shes a fleshtuber. I genuinely do not enjoy most EN streamers, their attitude is completely different to JP when it comes to idols and vtubers - although recently ive grown to like Kaela and Biboo.
But mori is a type of awkward fat white girl that i am surrounded by. Maybe unfairly i project my experiences on her, but nothing she has done seperates her from these stereotypical women.
I want cute anime girls doing cute things. She is not that, not even remotely.

If you enjoy her, all the power to you. I wont bother you, just dont shove her fat ass down my throat. Thank you.

>>72026690
>only normies hate her
OP didn't say that.

Mori entire music career has invalidated by Kankan, she will never be able to do anything close to her level, she got mogged on songs produced by the same guys who made her career.
https://youtu.be/iYHC-_WnkiQ?si=Qa7zHlHk4oPjH0hr
https://youtu.be/AuKQS1qbMmQ?si=O2nhM_c4gwEs8SrX
https://youtu.be/AhBCF4BDC4o?si=LeUyjtFqXzgSbOIe
Incredible how people will still say she is chaininf sucess meanwhile she has NEVER made a song that surpassed in views/streams her debut songs created 3 and a half year ago.

>>72016583
>normies
just cringe twitters fags

>>72020122
She's neither a bad singer (far from being the best in her branch tho, I'd say that her main flaw as a singer would be that she lacks depth in her voice) or a bad rapper but she's a terminally online idiot who lets everything get to her and can't help but trying to retaliate in one way or another

That + the fact that she's experimenting way too much with her music (which can be a good thing but everything has its limits) leading to dogshit tracks mixed with actual good ones

>>72024539
There's no such thing as non-cringe rap.

>>72016583
They are based

>>72016583
nigger hate wigger,no shit sherlock

>>72016700
To be fair her whole thing in the beginning was “modern rap BAD”.. but she’s somehow even worse and got shit on so bad she switched to rock

I've never met a Mori anti who was smarter/richer/better looking than an average deadbeat

>>72016583
because without the popular vtuber buff and vtuber fan bias, her music is actually very average, if not, "mid". I listened to a song she rapped in, and she legitimately ruined the entire flow of the song with her rap segment, it's funny and ironic too that the "rap" part ruined the flow of a song.

>>72037631
Anon your average deadbeat is fucking SEA

>>72037729
Every deadbeat I've met has been a 5'11 skinny white guy, a husky 200lb mulatto dude, or a 5'1 menhera "lesbian" for a pink woman

>>72016583
They hate weebs, and Mori is one of the weebiest.

>>72017815
This. Anyone calling faggots on twitter "normies" is a complete retard. They dont know what a normie is.

>>72037844
you are actually dumb as door knob if the handful of people you met is enough evidence that every deadbeat is good looking.

>>72039796
Sorry but I solely believe my anecdotal evidence as the only truth as I have nothing else to the contrary

>>72016583
I'M IN THE HOUSE LIKE CARPET

>>72016583
Why not?

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Normies shouldn't like anime/vutber stuffs, and fans of said stuffs should not want nor try to get normies liking their stuffs. Fans who engage in such behavior should be ostracized as if they were said normies.
How many times do we need to go over the gatekeeping discourse?

>>72042170
BARS

>>72016583
because it's doo doo shit from a butt, i think she should focus on singing instead of rap, she's in one of the biggest idol companies on top of the world right now, i'm pretty sure they could make her sound like a good singer.

Damn this thread reeks of twitter nigs.

>>72016583
She's not black, male, or hood enough

>>72016583
it is lije watching dora the explorer, she is just too much of kindergarder teacher

>>72042170
PEAK MUSIC ARIGATOU MORI SAMA

>>72016583
Because she's white. If her skin color were darker normies would be lying to themselves and say she's a musical genius like they do with a lot of other nog rappers. To be fair though, white women knocking on 30's door have no place rapping at all and she should've grown out of that phase a decade ago.

>>72036812
t. too young to remember when 36 Chambers dropped

>>72045924
it all sounds exactly the fucking same, kill yourself

>>72045924
I've listened to it and still agree with that anon that rap is cringe. Grow up.

>>72016583
Because to normies art is a sociopathic popularity contest.
If you are not the popular thing then you are trash. Not because the popular thing is good, not because it has depth or provides human value, but because it is popular. Human social nature working against itself. Not to to say the popular thing can't be good based in their own merits but because it is irrelevant to normies.
They will wear brand clothinf because Celebrity#72h4i2hwijdi endorsed it in an advertisement regardess or how good or bad the product it, not to support the celebrity but because everyone else like the celebrity and buying their trash is a status symbol to them.
Mainstream rap is just pop, pop has swallowed hiphop and rap,the two are inseparable.
Mori is not mainstream and doesn't want to do mainstream. She wants to make the music that falls within her interest and what she wants to talk about. Normies don't like this, they want the same regurgitated trash they are used to and they want their world views reaffirmed. Any narrative that goes against this is met with derision and anger.
Tl;dr normies are and always will bei trash.
Consider now that rap was originally just young people from the Bronx area rhyming over simply rythms.
Consider that rap has "diss tracks" which is the 'adult' equivalent of kids calling eacg other names at the playground.
So you have a group of self-important morons who eat eah others' brainvomit that think their juvenile dumbassery is a form of high art.
Rap has not evolved since Coolie released Gangster's Paradise and it never will.

>>72046036
>>72046197
Little kids listening to their dad's cassettes != being there when it dropped.

>>72046676
>it wasn't a turd when it just came out

>>72046800
t. can't distinguish good flow (ODB) from poor flow (Mori) and just calls everything cringe due to limited vocabulary

>>72047239
>can't distinguish good diarrhea from bad diarrhea
definitely a big loss for me

>>72047239
>poor flow
You don't know what that means and you can't put it into works. Stop using terms you have been fed by others without understanding them you pretentious half-wit

>>72016583
>Twittermonkey discusion
you need to go back

>ODB and Mori in the same sentence

>>72038119
>>72017815
People on twitter are normalfags. The internet is a real thing. It's not 1995 anymore, you fucking retards.

>>72016583
I've heard black people say she wore a MAGA hat. Don't know what they're talking about, though.

>>72038119
To be fair, "normie" has been twisted to mean basically anyone outside of a particular fandom or niche group.

>>72052941
She's been browsing 4chan since she was in high school, and you're surprised that she's based?

>>72020122
Exactly this.

>>72024194
Loud fuckers aren't they?

>>72026149
I wish they would. It would improve the board quality so much.

>>72037844
lmao suuuuuuuuuuuuure they are

>>72016583
because she's an open white nationalist who tries to be a rapper despite explicitly despising men & womxn of color

>>72016583
Because she is trash all of you just like her because she has tits and made some randos on twitter angry.

Unalive is pretty decent. Red as well
Sinderella is godawful. I couldn't get past the first song. And I don't even want to touch Jigoku with that cringe art.
Honestly, I feel Mori's singing is better than her rap. She's somewhat chuuni in her rap style. End of a life and Scuffed up Age are some of my favourite Holosongs overall though