/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Was it ever denied that vshojo was a clique?
They don't exactly hide it.

Sorry you made this your brand, Sayu.

I'd like to think Ironscammer and the guy pretending to be a girl using text to speech are not dumb enough to just be wrestled out of their dominating position in Vshojo

Silvervale and Veibae already exposed what a clique shithole it was when they left

I like how sisters keep posting about what Sayu said in /vsj+/ and yet no one really cares.
Ho buy tickets to Virtual Rhapsody if you want to help NijiEn, it'll do more food than bait threads. >>71939155

koyo male collab

>>71962972
Fuck you, I'm not a sister.

>>71962679
Vshojo was always a clique of Ironmouse's buddies who formed a group together and only nepo hire other friends in, they've never once hidden that fact

What the fuck is wrong with matara? Like seriously, she's acting like Sayu killed her fucking dog or something

>>71962839
they used to try denying it back when there was a bunch of drama surrounding their open auditions

>>71962679
YAGOOOO HIRE THIS WOMAN

>founding members were a scorned tripfag, a literal whore, a homewrecker, and a fucking tranny

>ooooh wooow the internal politics are a mean girls club no way that's crazy

TOTAL NIJI DEATH
TOTAL VWHOREJO ANNIHILATION

>>71962679
JACOB HIRE THIS WOMAN

>>71962679
God damnit Sayu shut up already. I'm less inclined to watch you because all your clippable moments are just you shitting on other people, and at this point I DONT CARE WHETHER ITS TRUE OR NOT.

Yes vshojo is a clique whorehouse, just focus on your brand being an entertainer and not a jealous seething wallflower.

>>71963188
Sayu needed to learn that people aren't props she can use in her little play. When someone tells you something in confidence you should use that to try and give yourself a little pep talk in public.

NO COLONIES LEFT UNTOUCHED!
SIEG SAION!

>>71962961
I legit couldn't believe how dirty they did Silver

>>71963368
> just focus on your brand being an entertainer and not a jealous seething wallflower.
Do you really believe she is capable of that?

>>71963410
Aren't you supposed to defend spacenoids, retard?

>>71963469
At this point, no, I'm convinced she is not.

>Leaks what someone said to her in confidence to prove a point
>"Y Can't I JoIN?"
Do sayukeks really?

>>71962679
Sayu is just an unlikable cunt that needs drama buffs. She's near the bottom of the barrel and Vshojo is just the nearest ledge she's trying to grip.

>>71963188
I don't understand it myself, I know that she spoke about something in private but was it so bad that she hates her forever now?

I listened to Matara when she was Nina and she told countless fucking stories about people doing her wrong and still forgiving them, yet this is the extreme?

>>71963444
I still don't know what the deal was with either of them.

>>71962679
YAHOO HIRE THIS WOMAN

>>71963185
Nah if Vshojo is a clique then it would ruled by Projekt Melody since she is the one who recruited all the OG members on top of being a part of Management for a while.

>>71962679
>we are a lot bigger now, we have the numbers now
>and the numbers before was one of the issues
VSHOJO ARE FILTHY NUMBERCHIMPS CONFIRMED

>>71963873
those are chimps

>>71963731
That is going to be a speedrun on NDA termination.

>>71962961
Those are the kind of girls one has to gatekeep, tho

>>71963773
That would require catalogers to actually watch VShojo and know their group dynamic

Why doesn't Sayu just become a news-and-dramatuber?

>>71963659
Silver was just pissed that they all backstabbed her during the harry potter drama for brownie points with twittertrannies. Ironrat was probably the worst offender since she likes to pretend to be "le wholesome unity jesus" but cowardly fence-sat that drama so hard her anus started bleeding.

>>71963188
She has always been a bitch. I don't have the spreadsheet on me, but she was always making other uncomfortable and lying constantly behind the scenes. She's even pestering not pomo not on twitter.

>Sayu won't get hired because she can't keep her mouth shut
>Dokibird does the same thing
>Literally gets offers to join other agencies and still pals with ex-nijisanji members

We get it, Sayu is the most wronged vtuber that ever lived, the victim of all victims, the most shunned person that ever lived. Woe is her.

>>71964014
Literally her brand.

>>71964003
It's because people actually knew Doki before she started yapping.

>>71963989
I just have the pre-Nina video...
https://web.archive.org/web/20211012003656/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BiiDS5SgP4

>>71964003
doki badmouths a bad company, sayu bathmouths every person she has ever worked with, even her vtuber mama.

>Sayu was screwed over by Nijisanji EN
>Sayu is very difficult to work with
Both of these can be true. I feel bad for how Sayu was treated in the past, but shit like this is why she doesn't have a strong relationship in the Vtuber community. She just collabed with two of the biggest Vshojo streamers and is spreading gossip about their agency right after.

>>71962679
>Vshojo thrives off of its members success
Wow, how come no other corpo thought of that? Are they stupid?

The last place Sayu should step in is Vshojo

Read this in Nina's voice so here

>>71964014
https://voca.ro/1ka1hEu9J1u3

>>71964003
>Literally gets offers to join other agencies and still pals with ex-nijisanji members
Never happened, only holo could offer better numbers, and ex nijis who contacted her were Yugo and Gundou.

>>71963985
She's a good streamer, so doing streams actually benefit her, but she also has a nice grift where she tours the drama channels now and then.
>>71963520
Not only that, but I believe her leaking documents to Legal Mindset was the death kneel to too many business opportunities. Was it funny? Yes. Did it boost her numbers? Absolutely. Was it morally right? Probably. But now no one's going to risk it when they can hire someone else.

>>71964288
KEEEEEK

>>71962679
...vshojo was always a clique though? i'm sure no fucking one tried to hide the fact it's a bunch of mean girls masquerading as a corpo.

>>71964288
Blessed

>>71962679
>I can tell who would be comfortable
>because I attacked a place that makes certain people comfortable

Seriously? Is that what she thinks? Nijisanji made Nina "comfortable?" Or maybe Kuro? Is that why they left and dedicated their debut stream to lowkey shitting on Nijisanji? No wonder Matara burnt bridges with her.

>>71963150
You're a sister (make)

>>71964288
Wow can't believe this bitch is reading this thread and made this post JUST to dab on Sayu

>>71964288
I love her, but I'd love her even more if she was evil maxxing like this. So cold.

>>71963188
What's with you sayucucks trying to force her on people who clearly want nothing to do with her? You do the same shit with dokibird. She may have been abused by niji, who wasn't? But she's obviously got other issues that made her a pariah in the industry because no one wants to touch her with a ten foot pole.
And honestly? From what I've seen, I don't blame them. She's a massive attention whore who cries foul when things don't go exactly her way

>>71964246
>Wow, how come no other corpo thought of that? Are they stupid?
no,thats just saying how stupid vshojo member is,thats why the one that is actually smart like doki,choose to be indie instead,just like sayu said,join vshojo for what?

>>71964288
You ever finish the dog stuff or are you still working on it?

Is this supposed to be a revelation? One of the few things that are publicly known about how vshojo picks people is that staff asks the talents if they are cool with any potential new member and if they aren't then that's it.

>>71962839
This
I dont think anyone is pretending that vshojo isnt Polish ironmouses asshole: the company

>>71964553
>because no one wants to touch her with a ten foot pole
kson,zen,iirc they are part of vshojo,so your statement make no sense

>>71963987
What are you on about isn't Mouse the only one that kind of defended her

>>71962679
Again with this
Jesus just buy an ad

>>71962839
This, why do you think Haruka and Geega were attached to Zen's butthole for a year?

>>71964697
Only because people kept calling her the fuck out for staying silent (which she even bitched about and said she's only addressing it because people were calling her out)

And what did she do? Vaguely mumble something about "no one deserves to be harassed" without even fucking mentioning Silvervale's name, Absolutely pathetic.

>>71964595
>One of the few things that are publicly known about how vshojo picks people is that staff asks the talents if they are cool with any potential new member and if they aren't then that's it
which is the point of the "revelation"? this is line up with the current vshojo rrat about niji Clique want to create bridge with the ex niji in vshojo,so basically become a safety net for elira etc if nijiEN completely sinking,sayu basically talking about her and doki situation with the ex niji in vshojo are part of the bully clique,because they wont touch both of them for niji clique sake.

>>71964673
>kson,zen
Ah yes, the ones known for collabing with literally anything with a beating heart

>>71962679
why is this girl always trying to victimize herself? is her entire identity just begging for pity all the time? holy fuck get a therapist instead of trauma dumping to your chat every day you psycho.

Honestly, after watching the stream, I expected salty phasefags after she said no to joining phase.
It's not a secret that Sayu liked the pre nijiniggers Vshoujo. Silvervale is her friend and got shot down by the same trannys that totally exaggerated Zaion's rape joke.

>>71963272
>a scorned tripfag
>a homewrecker
These are two different people?

>>71963903
That thing in the top left certainly isnt

>>71964817
Oh so it matters because of some rrat pushed by ESLs. Got it.

>>71964832
Honestly, I think she's sad she didn't get the same attention/growth Doki did

>>71962839
fpbp

>>71964824
the point still standing,specially with sayu there as the one who is "the one no one want to touch" shitting on the ex niji in the vshojo that prevent her join or close to vshojo,whether you like it or not,sayu is smart with her statement,
her goal? basically proving everything that ppl will bitch about later in the future probably just like what she said about niji showing that she was right,at the end of the day,sayu got nothing to lose,she is a full indie with small but dedicated fanbase of her anyway,so thats why shes just go at it.

I keep believing to this day that most of NijiEN's problems exist because the girls and the dudes behing the avatars were, and kind of still are, shitty people (or at least most of them). That's one of the main reasons why I'm not exactly changing my opinions about those who graduated (except for like Pommers and Doki who seem pretty cool), people don't easily change, especially on the internet.

>>71962679
Well then this throws the whole "Nina was a victim too" mindset out the vindow. She clearly isn't talking about Mysta there

>>71964927
but even then she gives herself credit for destroying "the good thing those people had" when that couldn't be further from the truth.

it's pretty obvious that she's trying to benefit from this as much as possible while Doki immediately moved on and hasn't discussed it since. the difference in professionalism between them is why Doki is getting all this goodwill while Sayu is having daily pity parties for subs. she needs to realize that this singular moment doesn't define her existence and you cant build a career off being a victim. people are getting tired of her shtick.

>>71964824
So who do you want her to collab with Mouse and Henya?

>>71964919
>Oh so a schizo rrat for a schizo anon like me?
yes? i mean thats what for you anon,unless even rrat was too much for your brain.

>>71964824
>literally anything with a beating heart
And even those without one

>>71964874
>Silvervale is her friend
thaaaaaat explains the eternal victim complex

>>71965189
This shit is way too ESL. I don't even know what the fuck you are trying to say.

>the drama is extending from one company to the other, exactly like a year ago

>>71965414
Who could've predicted that if you pick up a bunch of NijiEN's you are going to turn into NijiEN 2.0?

>>71962839
They tried at one point, opening auditions and all that, then they never called someone and got an orbiter instead.

>>71965022
what do you expect of fujobait who literally going rape,cocksuckingdick asmr and a literal clique full of bully and a queen bee who nepohire the entire clique? combine with a non existent management from black company who threat talent like a sweatshop garbage that debut every 3 month? thats what nijisanji is,go ask those niji jp fag if they knew about those small niji except kazuha and clique,they dont know whether they are alive or get fucked by anycolor in JP.
now they want to basically connect their clique to another clique from another company,which is vshojo

>>71965491
That was their rookie mistake, never try to take something that never worked. Hiring people based on their friendships often leads to shitty things, and Nazuna proves it extremely well (it was already retarded enough to hire a JP-only girl in the most EOP company of all time though).

>>71964832
>holy fuck get a therapist instead of trauma dumping to your chat every day you psycho.
Nah, getting therapy would clearly mark her as banking off Doki's MO. Sayu only carves her own path. And that path is pitbybaiting and dramamilking until the cows come home!

>>71965105
Sayu was being shit from on all sides before she even opened her mouth on the subject, she had no chance to "act professionally" on the matter when she was being abandoned left and right by indies who were formerly her friends
Even on the Nijifag side Doki sounded just as bad to work with but Sayu had to be the guinea pig for Nijisanji to test just how far they can stretch a termination notice to ruin someone's career. it's "safe" to remain friends with Doki unless you're in Hololive or Nijisanji, Sayu was treated like a leper before she even had a chance to defend herseldf

>>71965105
>people are getting tired of her shtick
who? her fans are staying with her from start,other ppl? no one really give a shit about her KEK,the thing is this girl is smart,she knew her situation and her card that she want to use,which is at the end of day,will expose niji and their clique and will be entertaining anyway,ppl talk about her "burning brinde" lol,its not her who burned the bridge,even after outside of niji,she still get fucked,she knew that and go full scorched earth

>>71962679
Sayufags on their way to burn every single bridge known to man and act like their the victim all because she was apart of Kurosanji for like 4 months and granted wrongfully booted out, honestly its pretty entertaining lol.

>>71964885
Nyanners and Froot

>>71965665
I still dont get why they faked those auditions
What do you gain from this? Fake hype to have people talking about this shitty company?

>>71965665
>friendships
what friendship? like in those CGDCT kind of friendship and bond? oh wait,wrong company LMAO a clique of highschool bullies are not friendship,they will stab eachother

every time i see something related to sayu its always about her whining and crying about something kek. she literally collaborated with zen like 2 days or something before she said this and its like... why? why would you even say this? what's the point of burning more bridges?

>>71965767
None of this is true, no one was avoiding Sayu for being fired, she just never bothered making any friends. She chose to align herself with fucking Depressed Nousagi, a doxxfagging clipfag, instead of developing friendships with other vtubers.
Doki wasn't treated the same way because she simply moved on and continued doing what she always did, collabing with the same people she always did, maintaining fun events for her fans, etc. Sayu's entire identity as a streamer changed since her firing from Nijisanji. Even people who used to hang out with her stopped doing so because her entire personality is just traumadumping about Nijisanji.
Maybe people are avoiding her now, but it's primarily because she's a sad sack that people don't wanna be around. Nijisanji doesn't have enough sway in the industry to blacklist her from indie collabs for fucks sake.

>>71966125
She won't rest until all cliques are annihilated from the face of this earth

>>71966203
what she needs is someone to start fucking the doomer out of her

>>71966078
>they will stab eachother
They already did as we have seen with Nyanners Vei and Silvervale

>>71966013
whether you like it or not,she succesfully burned everyone connected to them,specially after doki situation,which is fueling things even more,she just watching from the side enjoying by being indie

>>71963624
Because it's a blabber mouth doing so on a public stage AND to drama outlets. She's being nice enough to just cut Sayu out of her life. She's wants nothing to do with her, she isn't going after her. Sayu has been trying to enter back in and isn't taking no as an answer and now says that on stream. Matara is vindicated with not wanting to interact with Sayu with that clip alone. Sayu now just spread drama about Matara when Matara just wants nothing to do with Sayu.

>>71966173
You'll find next to no one outside of /here/ and people who already hated Niji who took Zaion's side after that termination announcement, Riguruma very publicly shit on her, no one in the company had a single issue with dumping on her while she couldn't legally respond

>>71964288
THE NINA ANON LIVES
We are still waiting for the dog porn

i remember when Nina Kosaka unfollowed Sayu a few weeks before she was actually terminated, people thinking she'd be friends with her when she was one of the first to cut her off are delusional
it doesn't even matter that Sayu was a blabbermouth

>>71966359
>SmartSelect
Are you shitposting from your fridge?

>>71966359
Well put, Pomie. This whole situation is retarded and I don't know what Sayu's problem is. It's not like Vshojo scorned her and told her to fuck off. They played with her and things were normal just a few day ago. Just because a single Vshojo member doesn't want anything to do with her doesn't mean the whole group is fucking with her. Like fuck, why would anyone want to be a soundbite on a dramatuber's channel. Matara had enough of that shit already.

>>71966173
>indie collabs
holy clueless,even phasefag can show you that sayu collab with their member,which is a corpo member,not just indie,this bitch is smart,sister think she will shut the fuck up,but no,she choose scorched earth instead,because what they gonna do? fire her? sue her? lol

>>71966041
>What do you gain from this? Fake hype to have people talking about this shitty company?
Seems to be the case. If you aren't friends with anyone from Vshojo, or you aren't popular enough, you're never getting in.

>>71965024
Its not just that there's some bad people at NijiEN, its that there's some bad people that aren't disciplined. Its like they decided to let a bunch of mental patients run the asylum, with horrible results as expected.

>>71966359
>pomudigos

>>71965491
It's not even a bunch mate, it's just Kuro and Matara in there. And I doubt they have enough influence to get the clique in there if they even wanted to (And theyre so radioactive that im sure Gunrun would make the executive decision to say no.) The only ex nijis that maybe join are Mika and Pomu, but that's considering if they even wish to stream again.

>>71966551
holy esl please leave the thread immediately

>>71966013
She had potential to show that Niji is an awful place to work, and they fucked over a professional, respectful, tactful individual. Instead she managed to make herself look horrible to work with, so it appears the way another anon has put it. Niji is a shithole, but Sayu is horrible to deal with too.
When every number boost attempt you do is some drama related clip or some controversy, don't be surprised when people don't want you around.
>>71966359
I think she is physically unable to go without shooting herself in the foot or burning bridges. As you've said - This clip alone vindicates Matara.

Stop posting old news to deflect from your shitty l2d concert sister lmao

Can any Sayubros explain to me why she keeps deciding to burn bridges whenever her chat asks her to gossip about a company/entity

ENGLISH SPEAKING WEBSITE

SOUTHEAST ASIANS LEAVE NOW

>>71966551
>phasefag
>sayufag
>esl
every time

>>71966563
The Discord leaks from NijiEN were actually funny as hell, it's either people shitting on each other or on other companies. Comparing it with HoloEN's Discord "leaks" is like night and day, hiring the right people is really important.

>>71963987
No, Silver was pissed at getting virtually no support over an entire year. She had to cut all of the ties she made with vendors as an indie since Vshojo didn't like it for example, and on top of that she got the least amount of goods of anyone. Hell I think even Geega has more goods than her, and Geega is only friends with one person there.

There was also the claim that Mousey ghosts people on the regular which fucked with Silver because she's also a menhera, but that's the kinda interpersonal shit you can't really confirm. I believe it though.

>>71966738
Feels like an all-out war right now

>>71964003
Wdym?Doki is literally the best example of a vtuber that knows how to keep her mouth shut,she is literally the opposite of sayu

>>71966373
>You'll find next to no one outside of /here/ and people who already hated Niji who took Zaion's side after that termination announcement
lol,lmao even,"no one took her side" does it matter? you clearly missed the point sister

>>71966595
>Pomu
I don't think Pomu would be hanging out with Kiara and Matara if she wasn't planning on streaming again.

>>71964288
based
>>71964573
>>71966480
the what

>>71966738
Whats funnier is that the WHOLE discord was leaked in holos case. Every single message since it was made was seen and it was such a nothingburger the worst thing people could find was Kiara getting ignored when asked for people to join a amogus collab.
Meanwhile with nijisanji just 2 screenshots was enough to ruin their reputation forever

>>71966646
To quote Peter Gabriel:
>I got to pick up the phone, I will call any number
>I will talk to anyone
>I know I'm gone too far, much too far I gone this time
>Don't wanna think what I'd done
>'Cause I don't know how to stop, I don't know how to stop!

>>71962679
>Vshojo is a clique
True, everyone is aware of this and Sayu has already talked about it plenty of times.
>Some of the vshojo members dislike her
True, we already knew this too for a long time already. That doesn't mean that Sayu hates the company, she is good friends with Kson and is at least on friendly terms with Zen.
>Sayu wanted to get in, but she didn't have the numbers
True, but, again, this is old news.
What's the purpose of this thread?

>>71964208
She's an unironic commie and believes the ends justify the means as long as it benefits her.

>>71966875
Their vent channel was even more bizarre. Only Mysta seemed to use it for its actual intended purpose.

>>71966975
How is looking out for number one communism?

>>71966601
>holy esl please leave the thread immediately
sister,this is the time for pagpag eater to sleep,why are you still here?

>>71966975
Based.

>>71966975
based, i will now watch matara religiously

>>71966796
The fact that Pomu said that and is now talking about HoloFes as one of the most exciting events for her either says a lot about her, or at least about the environment that she was in. Generally, I really have a hard time understanding that woman sometimes.

>>71966927
>What's the purpose of this thread?
Sisters and dramafags don't watch Sayu, they just consume and share out of context clips. The nijidrama is getting a little stale now, so they need something new.

>>71963444
>>71963987
>Silvervale
Main twitch demographic is fatherless shitskinned twitter traniggers, why would they choose some coworker over their own careers? It was silly for Silvervale to try to troll the subhumans.

>>71967087
It's less of a "clique" and more like "friends of convenience"

>>71964003
Doki maintained professionalism even after leaving Niji. She hasn't spilled any secrets even with 120,000 people begging her to leak shit in her first livestream. That shows integrity and that you can be trusted in a corpo environment.

Sayu is the exact opposite of that. She yaps and yaps about every person or corporation and clings to every possible drama to make it about herself with no regard for how it affects other people. She's poison for any corpo, the moment they hire her or even contact her for negotiations she'll become a ticking timebomb.

>>71967087
her and Selen both seem really enthusiastic about Hololive, it's not like they didn't collab with Holo before but I assume Niji told them to to restrain themselves

>>71967031
Every commie believes it's a means for self benefit or else they wouldn't support it

>>71962679
What a troublesome woman

>>71967087
Do people actually understand that words have meaning and context behind them? People act like she gave the TOTALER KRIEG Goebbels speech instead of just saying that things feel like a war. Man, I sometimes forget that the people on this board are either bugbrained subhumans or actual autists who can't recognize their own reflection in the mirror.

>>71967087
This is a take /vt/ isn't prepared to have a discussion about.

It was a joke.

>>71966719
>>sister seething in sayu thread
every single time,keep seething sister

>>71966927
It's just roachcucks and Nijisisters trying to meet their weekly "we need to shit on Sayu" quota, ignoring the fact that she's getting 2k viewers and making more money every stream than their sad oshis

>>71966927
This post is just stupid. All because she used the word "clique"
Replace this with the phrase "Vshojo is group of friend/streamers" and is basically a nothingburger.

You can clearly hear the regret in her when the word clique came out of her mouth, she tried to sugarcoat it but there's nothing you can do about it at this point. Everyone hears clique and thinks of the Niji stuff

>>71967198
No, they don't. That's why they set themselves on fire for brown people. "How does this benefit me?" consequentialists aren't communists.

>>71962679
I still don't understand the point of vshojo if they only take successful people.

>>71967087
The "all out war" quote was just her commenting on the fact that Hololive was going all in on Stars EN

>>71967087
"it feels like an all out war lol" was in response to StarsEN auditions being announced just 9 hours after NijiEN male auditions were announced

>>71967321
>what is a talent agency

>>71966800
>Wdym?Doki is literally the best example of a vtuber that knows how to keep her mouth shut,she is literally the opposite of sayu
thinking sister care,everyone that out of niji and showing how bad niji is evil and become the target of "blacklist" for them lmao

>>71966173
Has she collabed with Aethelstan after being fired
I know they were really close before she joined Niji
He also shits on Niji constantly so it's not like he's on their side

>>71967307
>"Vshojo is group of friend/streamers"
Translators note: They are not a group of friends.

>>71967321
Why take a risk on some unknown and unproven 3view when you have liggers flocking to give you a cut of their income without you having to lift a finger?

>>71967321
>streamers get free managers and merch production
>corp gets to their brand shilled around by e-celebs
Wow I can't imagine why this would be mutually profitable...

>>71967368
Well, what do they actually do?

>>71967368
Where is the talent

>>71967384
He raided her a couple times, not sure if they collabed

>>71964288
Damn that’s pretty good.

>>71962679
I mean everyone knows this. This will limit them long term as they recreate the worst parts of nijiEN.

>>71964288
I'm still waiting for you to make Nina getting spit roasted by two dogs

>>71967425
Because now liggers won't even bother trying to join you since they know it's purely nepotism. I think the only ligger I follow that doesn't treat Vshojo like a joke is Morch because Geega's in it.

>>71967320
>believing psyops
Does anon really?

>>71967141
Wait back up, isn't Silvervale woke? What happened there. What nono did she do.

>>71967435
I seriously fucking doubt it's "free".

>>71967583
She played the funny wizard game

>>71962679
What I love about this woman is that she's like the Whistleblower of Vtubers
She isn't afraid to tell the truth to people, a very virtuous value

>>71967583
She played Harry Potter game. Unfortunately she's retarded and doesn't know woke people hate women, especially white ones.

>>71967574
Yeah, I do. I saw that video and I just went "wtf I love israel now". Shouldn't you be watching Pippa or some shit?

>>71967654
It's not, they get a cut of merch sales

>>71966875
Very funny that -- if you believe the Niji leaker -- the whole Discord got scrubbed out after the Selen drama and now everyone is afraid of their shit getting leaked. So much so that they're using voice chat for simple confirmations.

>>71967241
I mean, if that conversation isn't about shitting on Hololive, then I don't know what it's about.

>>71967583
She got branded as a TERF

>>71967152
>Doki maintained professionalism even after leaving Niji. She hasn't spilled any secrets even with 120,000 people begging her to leak shit in her first livestream. That shows integrity and that you can be trusted in a corpo environment.
>Sayu is the exact opposite of that. She yaps and yaps about every person or corporation and clings to every possible drama to make it about herself with no regard for how it affects other people. She's poison for any corpo, the moment they hire her or even contact her for negotiations she'll become a ticking timebomb
it doesnt matter,both of them are blacklisted from any company atleast from JP one,the west one mostly dont care,the thing is doki is simple brain fps fag who just eat sleep game,sayu on the other hand knew she could burn everything down,because why not? not like blacklisted from JP corpo matter,which is why niji are so fuckng ass about "terminating" both,but sayu giving a middle finger.

>>71966858
>the what
It's one of the unwritten rules of /vt/. If you have a good AI voice model, you HAVE to make some degen porn of vtubers. Nina Anon surprised everyone a few weeks ago with his excellent Nina model, so we asked him for some audio clips of Nina fucking a dog and he seemed interested on the idea.

>>71967195
Doki drew Gura stuff before Nijisanji. She was always a Holofan. Elira's holo oshi or kamioshi is Pekora. They were almost all Holo fans outside of Petra.

>>71967710
It was never about shitting on Hololive, at least from Pomu's perspective.

>>71967583
Being woke won't save you from the mob, "queen TERF" JK herself can testify to that

>>71967654
It's free in the sense they're not paid directly by the streamers but instead make money from Vshojo sponsored merch and events. Just with a handful of 3views and he's probably making $6k per month minimum

>>71963409
Meanwhile being friends with Zaion's doxxer...funny how slippery one's morals can be when they serve your career

>>71967730
Holy esl

>>71967743
and it still hasn't happened yet?
the fuck dude...

>>71967710
The only one there who was was Fulgur, and I guess Vox with his tech issues joke. The rest were talking about StarsEN.

>>71967689
As long as you're aware you're retarded it's fine

>>71967710
Is she? Look at the cap. That's the only message of hers there. It can mean anything. I assume she's saying that the situation feels tense. I mean it's competition, isn't it? She's in an industry after all, working for a corporation. Call it a cope, but if you got your feelings hurt by that leak I don't know what to say. Maybe divorce yourself from the corp. Yagoo is not your dad and A-chan isn't your mom.

>>71967321
because they want the money,but doesnt have what it takes to actually scouting,build and invest on the talent for branding,develop and managing everything,so its just glorified clique.

>>71962679
Welcome home

>>71967730
Spot on. Sayu has nothing to lose because she basically lost everything due to the way her termination went, and now she's back with a loyal fanbase that can only grow as Niji keeps pumping out yab after yab. The big indies that have abandoned her won't change their minds because Quinn already brainwashed them, and those that are neutral or friendly with her aren't on her warpath

>>71967802
I feel about for the momos. I would fucking kill myself if Mint started sucking Kyo's dick

>>71967765
Definitely not from Pomu's prospective, even though she was undeniably ready to die on Nijisanji's hill at the time.
>>71967888
>Yagoo is not your dad
He definitely is. I'm not really coping about it though, just kind of shows the type of relationship that both companies held at the time.

>>71967970
Right after that clip ends
chat asks about phase and she says no
sorry phasefag

>>71967970

>>71967435
meanwhile doki,streamer get full money for her,with her own fanbase,why join vshojo? lmao
even sayu who is far smaller just like doki is full for her,without any tied to company.

>>71967970
>phasetard can't even watch a 5 minute clip
jesus christ

>>71967802
We'll see how it plays out.

>>71968024
I genuinely hope it doesn't happen, Mint is great, even Sayu is cool with her

>>71962839
When it's convenient for them, yeah. When people forget about this clip in a few days/weeks they'll be right back to it.

>>71966646
Can't burn a bridge that was never there. She never had any chance of joining vshojo.

>>71967654
>I seriously fucking doubt it's "free"
cmon anon,vshojofag and their "talent freedom" don't ruin their dream

>>71968024
Be careful with your words young Padanon, the internet works in mysterious ways.

>>71962679
I was right, I made this rrat about Matara being in the clique and being friendly with them and the only issue she has was JP autism of management.
I bet she also bullied Selen.
Why my rrats are always spawning into reality? Is this power of 30 years old virgin?

>>71967710
She's saying that Cover has scrambled to launch Stars EN as Luxiem boomed. At that point with Nijisanji and Holostars looking for EN men it felt like an all out war.

>SAYU CAN'T STOP BURNING BRIDGES
...What bridges? Vshoujo? Everyone knows that Matara hates her, Sayu has always being pretty honest about it. Sayu is doing extremely fine on her own, she doesn't need a company.

>>71962679
>What is Vshojo's model?
>They thrive off of their members success
Damn how fucking dare they
Also everybody knew from day 1 that you have to be friends with the existing members in order to get accepted into vshojo, that's how the group was formed in the first place and how it's always operated. I can't even conceptualize how people can see this as a bad thing

>>71968262
Here, (you) earned this one.

>>71967747
I should have known it was only a matter of time before one of her fans took the war criminal thing to heart.

>>71968269
Then I've got to say that she was right, and that looking back at it, she should have honestly been in HoloEN's management at the time. That was probably the worst choice that the company took in ages.

>>71968024
What does the dog have to do with Kyo?

>>71968227
>>71968291
It's not just about joining vshojo. It's just not a good look to shit on companies, especially when you just got done collabing with members from said company

>>71968262
>puts nina in the MV that set the whole thing off

>>71967433
They do some management and tech support and handle merchandising. You're still allowed to independently do your own merch on the side if you want.

>>71967875
"in my opinion the discord leak is real" amirite sister? KEK

>>71968381
Mint Fantome, not Mint Castella.

>>71968333
>that's how the group was formed in the first place and how it's always operated
So you are memory holing the auditions or...?

>>71967710
>I mean, if that conversation isn't about shitting on Hololive, then I don't know what it's about.
thinking sister actually stop coping and stop defending niji? do you really? KEK

>>71968131
Because most women are too fucking retarded to hire the right people to manage their affairs. Veibae tried to act smart about "lol read le contract hire le lawyers" AFTER leaving as if she didn't fall for the same trap.

And in all fairness even if they weren't completely retarded, how many people can get their hands on S-tier managers/lawyers like Doki did?

>>71968394
> It's just not a good look to shit on companies
She didn't shit on the company tho?

>>71968413
>>71968482
>ESL fumbles his zinger
Every time.

>>71968403
Oh, you are right, there was something like this.
I guess my rrat was shit

>>71968333
Because you lack experience. I've worked in 3 small corpos and watched my branches burned to the ground because nepotism got out of control. It's why vshojo's saving grace will be Mouse and Zen dominance and they're willingness to throw anyone under the bus that hurts the brand.

>>71968394
oh nyooo the radioactive brand risk isn't (and will never be) tight with the #1 vtuber clique full of Niji's sloppy seconds, whatever shall she dooooo

>>71968262
Share the rest of your rrats, oh wise one!

>>71968658
He didn't get anything right, it was just Sayu using a word and putting a foot in her mouth. People on this board act like they are prophets and you're fucking moron if you listen to this retard.

>>71963188
Sayu explains it. Ex niji talents including matara blame her for what's happening in niji right now. Sayu blew the lid off and exposed what was happening to the public, opening Pandora's box. Matara, kyo and others will never forgive her for it because they loved niji and she killed it. This is why they won't acknowledge doki either.

>>71967994
sister and sayu anti too busy bitching about her that they couldnt see that lol,like sayu is an indie with decent number for indie,she probably make more than most nijiEN simply because niji pay like shit,so why she care about that lol

>>71968732
or is it more like matara doesn't give a fuck about her anymore and sayu is still on about it for some reason kek

>>71968394
>Sayu spends a whole year shitting on nijisanji nonstop
>Not even a single company cares, she gets sponsorships and even a fucking genshin ad
>Sayu says that Vsjoujo is a clique
>THIS IS TOO FAR, IT'S OVER FOR HER
lmao

>>71968732
matara hated everything about niji save for the actual members

>>71968811
Matara and kyo were in the niji clique.

>>71968732
>Sayu explains it. Ex niji talents including matara blame her for what's happening in niji right now
Where are you getting this info from? Did she actually say this? Because Niji EN was already going tits up in December 2022, if you remember the Yugo nonsense.
> Sayu blew the lid off and exposed what was happening to the public, opening Pandora's box. Matara, kyo and others will never forgive her for it because they loved niji and she killed it.
Oh right, these are baseless claims. "Loved Niji" Get the fuck out of here.

>>71968732
> Matara, kyo and others will never forgive her for it because they loved niji and she killed it
No, they just liked being popular. They don't give a shit about Niji.

>>71968863
>Matara and kyo were in the niji clique.
This again?

>>71968877
Watch the clip retard.

>>71963188
Everyone in Niji is just a vile bitch man it's as simple as that. Even if they "suffered" in the company or left, that doesn't mean they're not also bitches. Even Selen was known as a massive menhera when it came to FPS and was also a completely subservient Niji bootlicker. But Kyo is the best example now, he was literally part of the bully clique but now he's trying to pretend to be one of the "victims" who "suffered".

Nobody who is good-natured would ever want to join that disgusting rat sewer of a company. People tried to make Petra and Scarle out to be "one of the good ones" too and of course that backfired horribly. It will backfire on Rosemi and Vivi too. The only good Nijinigger is a dead Nijinigger.

>>71968972
>Visits Millie in person as Matara and continues to interact with the rest of Ethyria
Yes lol

>>71968732
>zaion opened Pandora's box
>Niji talents and ex talents blame her for it
I can see that actually.

>>71964208
I've never trusted her to be anyway near what she portrays herself as, people don't know how fucking schizo slavic women are and as soon as one takes a motherly persona their are the top of the schizos over there,
doesn't change the fact that she had to deal with asian clique bitches, but doesn't change the fact that you shouldn't trust women like that when they will do lots of queen bee shit as soon as they're in charge

>>71969072
Tbf Niji opened the box with that termination notice, Sayu just closed it before hope escaped since there is no hope un NijiEN.

>>71968482
>>71968777
Man, can you shut up for a minute? You're giving us a bad name. Go do your English reps, or maybe kys if you're actually a nijisister trying to falseflag

>>71962679
I wish people actually cared enough to watch her rather than baiting whenever she vents in her 8 hour streams, she's entertaining and deserves so much more than being the drama girl.

>>71969047
She also visited Reimu in person too. She also hung out with Pomu recently too. This doesn't mean anything unless they were all in on the Selen rape gang.

>>71968972
AAIIIIIEEE MOMOS AND KYOKEKS DONT LOOK

>>71969186
None of them are collabing with Selen so it might as well be the case

>>71969193
C-Clearly different people

>>71967224

>>71968486
>Because most women are too fucking retarded to hire the right people to manage their affairs. Veibae tried to act smart about "lol read le contract hire le lawyers" AFTER leaving as if she didn't fall for the same trap.
>And in all fairness even if they weren't completely retarded, how many people can get their hands on S-tier managers/lawyers like Doki did?
as long as they have the money and they are not fully retarded like the one who join vshojo? these ppl who join vshojo isnt some random 2 view indie,just beacause they are too retarded fell for some "muh talent freedom" like kson,doesnt mean the one who didnt join are dumb.
the reason vshojo still stand on twitch because there is no competition,twitch and vshojo member that already big are both RETARDED,the smart one like doki or even sayu already said it clearly,what vshojo offer for already established big ex corpo? its not worth it.

>>71969173
>she's entertaining and deserves so much more than being the drama girl.
I mean, she is doing pretty damn good right now. She has an extremely loyal fanbase who doesn't care about the drama, and she is growing at a good pace. Also, this board doesn't really care that much about her. Just look at the last few bait threads, it's the same handful of bored dramafags trying to start some shit and getting dunked on or just flat out ignored.

>>71969005
I watched it, dickhead. She pussy footed around saying what she meant and was insanely clumsy in the wording. She took a steaming shit on Vshojo, mumbled a bunch about numbers then cried about "people being there who aren't comfortable with her". What people? If it's just one person. That Quinn faggot doesn't even register as a vshojo orbiter. All I heard were insinuations from her about what she thinks in her paranoid mind is the reason why she didn't get a golden ticket to join Vshojo.
>I attacked a place that made certain people comfortable
It's also a lot of unwarranted self-importance. She felt bad that day and decided to shit on a person while trying to act high and mighty. Such a petty thing to do all because someone didn't wish to be a prop in her little theatrical performance.

>>71968792
>doesn't give a fuck about her anymore
clueless lol,lmao even

>>71968117
I will now watch this chuuba

>>71969193
Yeah, I don't care. Good actually, maybe it will help Elira bail from that company one day. Maybe she can even give her a big fat kiss on her mouth when she goes indie.

>>71968877
>Oh right, these are baseless claims. "Loved Niji" Get the fuck out of here
use your brain to think atleast once anon,atleast once.

>>71968792
Lmao Matara definitely still cares
She admits that she's a super emotional woman so there's no way that shit didn't bother her. In fact I would posit that she got more pissed off about it than the average person would and if anyone is the type to blow things out of proportion it's her
https://youtu.be/TvpyePqDIPY?t=70

>>71969173
>Man, can you shut up for a minute? You're giving us a bad name. Go do your English reps, or maybe kys if you're actually a nijisister trying to falseflag
sister seething as usual

>>71968024
It takes almost no time to sniff out a faker/grifter like her based on her bored voice
It takes like 5 minutes to do reps about who she really is and notice she's a scum of the earth parasite
Don't feel sorry for those keks

>>71969594
I love how you keep repeating "v-vshojo offers nothing to her anyway" when the entire clip is Sayu saying the opposite and complaining that certain people killed that opportunity for her

>>71964553
That’s just collab beggars in general, they’re always cancer.

>>71968732
This makes too much sense. Funny how objectively evil and retarded "people" like them developed a stockholm syndrome to that black company.

>>71969915
She even explains that Vshojo takes your success and elevates you to another level. Her only problem is that she is not welcomed because of other members

Dramaniggers can't even watch a clip

>>71962679
fucking roach stopping her from being in vshojo

>>71969663
She's talking about niji you dumb fuck lmao. How stupid are you to not get that? When she says "I attacked a place people felt comfortable" she's talking about niji and vshojo has hired ex nijis who felt that niji was comfortable for them. Learn to read you ugly fatty lmao.

Someone remind me why this board hates Nina/Matara so much again? I must have missed something when I stopped watching her after the male collab spam arc as Nina.

>>71970174
It's specially funny because Matara didn't waste time on shitting on Niji when she understood that it could benefit her.

>>71970270
For me it's mostly the Kyo stuff. I'm fine with her hating Sayu, I'm sure that there's some ugly stuff between them that we don't know about. But sucking Kyo's cock is just disgusting.

>>71970174
Where does it imply that I wasn't talking about Nijisanji, dipshit? I'm disputing that fact, I'm disputing the fact that she claims that she destroyed NijisanjiEN. That's what I mean by unwarranted self-importance. What did she expect? A mass walk-out from the company on her behalf after she got terminated? Yeah, I get she got fucked over by scumfucks like Kyo, but why does she act that something that was never going to happen (her joining Vshojo) didn't happen because Ice Queen Matara said "NO, GET THIS BITCH OUT OF HERE I'M UNCOMFORTABLE"? Explain that to me. You retarded nigger.

>>71970270
ignores doki
turns kuro against doki
supports kyo, still hangs out with the rest of Ethyria

>>71970270
Do reps from before she was Nina
She's the worst parasite grifter that there is, right up there on par with plappa

>>71970270
She's the Vaush of vtubers

>>71970270
Sayu is the main character. Whoever's not sucking her dick aside from doki is evil.
It's funny some random rambling from that old hag has generated this much discussion.

>Dislike Matara
>Remember that she is one of Pomu's best friend
My oshi is so fucking terrible at judging people

>>71963185
>they've never once hidden that fact
>held open auditions with multiple rounds for a nepo hire that all the applicants got butthurt about

>>71970270
It's one of the many things retards here have in common with sisters.
>They hate her
>They are both ESL retards
>They both have schizophrenia
>They think whatever they write is reality

>>71970373
NTA but she did most of the work in destroying Niji's reputation. She poured the gasoline and Doki threw the match

>>71970550
Pomu is easy, just indulge in her MGS brainrot

>>71970431
Very few people here cared about Doki, until they could use her against Niji.

>>71970550
Pretty sure she's getting tired of her at this point.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2081428746?t=3h36m31s

>>71970550
You would be far less upset about things if you spent less time believing the bullshit in threads like these. Actually that's no fun at all because Matara is a communist jew from Twitch DOT TV who is here to destroy vtubing from within by being a grifter parasite. Kyo is waiting behind the curtain to hold Pomu's hand forcefully and rape her like he did to Enna. Trust this rrat that comes from my insane imagination because I'm a Filipino retard who found out about this website after seeing my favourite react retard talk about it.

This is the same board that actually believed and spread the rumour that Nina leaked Pomu's photos. So yeah, think on that.

>>71969193
>Chooses pagpag over hag
She's obviously in the clique lol, momos are in denial

>>71962679
She's already said this a year before.
Her opinion soured on Vshojo when her friend Silver left them.

>>71967676
are you fucking autistic lmao shes a bitter cunt and is trying to cause drama

>>71970887
>her opinion soured on vshojo
>still wanted to join
??????

>>71970824
She HATES her!

>>71970824
Bullet fucking DODGED
Pomudachis rejoice

>>71970933
Dramafags still haven't cleared their head on what the line of attack is. They need a guide

>>71970746
This relationship predates MGS. Pomu made her end screen, literally the first person in Niji who talked to her.

>>71970920
>revealing truth is trying to cause drama
>whistleblowing is bad cause i said so
lol
seems oddly specific to get triggered about, sister

>>71970455
>bro just look up old doxxshit and then you’ll understand
If a vtuber is a shitty person then it’ll leak on streams 99.9% of the time. If that doesn’t happen, I don’t care about shit that was said years ago being used to discredit them.

>>71970824
I've done this to people I like. Sure dude, I enjoy your company, but you want to hang out way too often.
>>71970550
Or maybe they're good people and you're a shitty judge of character.

>>71970270
she joined vshojo and she's still friends with some members of the niji clique

>>71968333
>Also everybody knew from day 1 that you have to be friends with the existing members in order to get accepted into vshojo,
If this what the case people wouldn't have auditioned.

>>71971152
The Niji Clique rrats are a game and Enna is the ball. Poor Enna.

>>71970270
All she talks about is money, donos, and gifted subs. She is still part of Elira's clique and her silence on doki shows where she stands. She turned vshojo against Sayu and is now riding kyo's dick.

>>71971075
>Ignores when it leaks
>ignore the thing it happened before Nina
>ignores the things that happened after nina
You're just coping

>>71971054
>revealing truth is trying to cause drama
Those things are not mutually exclusive, yes.

>>71971258
But according to you it is, sister.

Honestly the main takeaway I got from reading this thread is that Matara is a cunt. I did kinda get weirded out by how unnatural her act of shilling Kyo was recently

>>71971236
>She turned vshojo against Sayu
They literally collabed with her recently

>>71970933
>still wanted to join
She's never been keen on Vshojo post-zaion
She did apply to them before nijisanji though, and got a first-hand experience on how they operated

>>71971244
So what happened after Nina? Explain it to me using only established facts and things that have been said on stream or were posted publicly. No insinuation, esoteric divination and other baseless nonsense.

>>71970933
Timelines are hard, so I'll try to help some anons
>2021
>Sayu is a small indie and tries to join Vshoujo, but they never call her back (because she didn't have the numbers)
>2023
>Silver (one of Sayu's best friends) gets kicked out from Vshoujo
>Sayu and Matara stop being friends
>Sayu: "Vshoujo is a clique, I don't like that kind of stuff"
>2024
>Sayu: "Thanks to my fans I don't need a company anymore, but even if I tried to join Vshoujo (again) I probably wouldn't make it because some of them dislike me. Because, you know, they are a clique"

>>71971258
He never claimed whether or not it's mutually exclusive, you're a retard. Learn to read

>>71971318
The main takeaway I got is that Sayu has a terrible fucking fanbase. Might still go watch her to see if “talent reflects the fanbase” is actually true or if it’s just an unfortunate coincidence.

>>71968220
This
Everyone forgets that vshojo is a group not a corpo

>>71971385
>gets kicked out from Vshoujo
this is what phasebrowns actually believe

>>71971385
>Thanks to my fans I don't need a company anymore
That's not what she says on the clip

>>71971196
Oh you sweet summer child.
Desperate chubas will even audition for Nijisanji again even though they know what's up

>>71968732
If Sayu actually believes this then she really needs to take her meds.
No one cares about her on either side of this. She didn't blow the lid on anything. She's just trying to latch onto Doki like a leech.

>>71971493
>on the clip
...Anon, I watched the whole fucking stream, I'm giving you the full context.

>>71971385
Silver LEFT Vshojo. She chose not to renew her contract.

Write a better fanfic

>>71971385
>Silver (one of Sayu's best friends) gets kicked out from Vshoujo
Sure let's go with this alternative fact

>>71971505
>No one cares about her on either side of this.
The amount of catalog threads she generated suggests otherwise

>>71971569
>>71971603
She quit on her own terms? I honestly thought they kicked her out. My bad, carry on.

>>71970550
There are people like her that try to be on the good graces of everyone, problem is that exposes these kinds of people to be used and abused, now look at her in the present: she wasted her prime vtubing years on a black corpo, helping building it up for peanuts.
>>71971075
>freely posting your own stupid shit online is doxx
Being a shit person doesn't necessarily leak on streams, there are skilled shifty "people" like Nina/Matara or Michael the Cat that can keep up a kayfabe for years on end. This is the exact same shit as women marrying a dude and staying with him right up until he makes it in economic terms just to divorce rape him and take the bag, they can keep up the act for years, decades even.

>>71971678
>divorce rape him
Is that you, Mr. Andrew Anglin?

>>71971611
I think that has more to do with the fanbase reflecting the oshi, you know - because they're attentionfags just like her. Can't keep themselves to /ss/.

>>71971530
You need to understand that the dramafags of this board only consume out of context clips.

>>71971498
This was clearly not the case as a shit ton of indies that auditioned were pretty angry over it on twitter. Do your fucking reps before talking about something you don't know fucking retard.

>>71971867
>Can't keep themselves to /ss/.
Nice try sister, maybe try making a less blatantly false flagging thread next time.

>>71971932
Is do your reps the phrase people use when they don't want to back their claims with evidence? Is the retard Flipsie one of these supposed indies? He got banned for drama baiting in Doki's discord lol

>>71971678
>Michael the Cat that can keep up a kayfabe for years on end
I think this example works against your argument. The problem with Mikeneko wasn't that she's hiding behind a mask (personality wise), the problem was that she was the exact same person IRL that she was on stream.

>>71970824
Matara just seems like a party girl while Pomu is more reserved. I dont doubt Pomu values her friendship but she doesn't care about getting dragged too deep into her shit with Kyo either, or constantly attending these normalfag events once a week.

>>71971932
Are stupid anon?
That's what I told you, that people always audition even though they know they have almost zero chance. And don't get me wrong, sooooo many Vshojo orbiters applied and many of them were really good friends with the girls like Candy and Rose, Anny (Vei's good friend) and many more. Imagine getting angry when you don't get picked as a 2 view

>>71972046
Literally go to vshojo's twitter, check the tweets of the audition announcement, and the tweet where they announce the new talent. Click on "See quotes" and walah

>>71972182
>that people always audition even though they know they have almost zero chance
This was not the case since all the indie vtubers were very vocal about how they didn't expected the auditions to be fake.

>>71971819
>twitter tranny thinks a fed invented that term
The state of this board

>>71972201
Thanks, will do. I misread what you said, I thought you were talking about Niji auditions haha. Sorry, friend.

>>71972253
It's not fake you dumbass. The company will filter the trash (2 views and Vtweeter) and when the final top 10 or whatever is decided the firls get to pick the member. Did anyone expect that there was gonna be a 10 member wave out of this? You dramaniggers are completely braindead

>>71972329
First time I saw it was when I was reading the Stormer. Still you sound like a total lunatic, because you're thinking about getting "divorce raped" while watching a pair of flopping live 2D tits on Twitch.tv. None of this shit is real.

>>71972370
Ah it's ok, then kek, I usually don't talk about Niji because I know nothing about them and I only know about this vshojo scandal because my twitter TL was full of people talking about it
>>71972415
>it's not fake
Oh, hi Zen, how are you doing?

>>71972457
Oh, hi Vtweeter. When's your debut?

>>71972541
In a few weeks, I'm planning to pretend to be a woman while using TTS, it worked for Zen

>0% cut from subs/donos/bits
>50%+ of Merch revenue goes to talents
>Non exclusivity clause
>IP is yours
>Free therapy
>Monthly stipend for your projects.
I can see why they won't do auditions or are extremely picky.

>>71972587
You better have a nice model, faggot.

>>71972587
Well you have to be funny on top of that, not an idiot. maybe delay for another year

>>71972058
To be fair she was kinda good at hiding it until the discord yab. Still, Mike is an extreme example. Very few people can keep the mask on like that.

>>71971385
I don't about your speculations but I just want to fix two infos I'm sure they are not factual.
>but they never call her back
Everyone who applied got an official answer.
>Silver gets kicked
She left on her own terms

>>71972713
I don't think she kept the mask, people just thought she was joking. What happened with MFMF is exactly what I'd imagine a relationship with Rushia will look like.
https://youtu.be/Xr9hrKYKVhg?si=7HKBRKZCGPzBTJRn

>>71972681
>you have to be funny
Vshojo clearly doesn't have to
>>71972676
Yeah, I'll just copy an old vtuber's model like Dola, edit the body a little bit and maybe I can steal some fans that way

this thread stinks of those "traptubers" from /asp/ who just tweet about the latest vtuber drama or rightoid gaming twitter bullshit instead of streaming

>>71962917
I wish she'd just ban your ass instead of responding, but here we are.
>>71963188
seriously, look into her pre-vtubing career, you'll soon understand.
>>71963243
>>71963731
Sayu also said she isn't going anywhere, which is the good decision.
>>71963985
that'd kill her career. she just needs to learn to not bite the bait and just instaban the shit stirrers.
>>71965767
this
>>71966013
cry more sister
>>71966041
funny, Sayu said on a stream that the auditions were legit but then some third party fucked them over and they can't say anything due to potential lolsuits, so she didn't elaborate either.
>>71966173
>she just never bothered making any friends.
bullshit, she even credits her friends in her lore video. Kson, Onigirien and Yuniiho just to name 3
>>71966203
hella based if you ask me. the clique would eventually bully Henya for which I WILL NOT stand for
>>71966250
she's divorced, I think you're a bit too late
>>71966595
>im sure Gunrun would make the executive decision to say no.
I hope so.
>>71967111
>>71967265
their plan of overtaking VShojo has been revealed and they aren't happy about it.
>>71967438
Henya?
>>71967654
they run on venture capital, anon.
>>71967689
in other words, the psyop worked as intended.
>>71967970
she already said no, stop begging
>>71968117
fucking based
>>71968795
she also got a P3R sponsor recently
>>71969098
>slavic
not quite, but I won't eat a 3day for this bitches' sake. I'm sure you can put two and two together
>>71970871
momos are too well organized to not know, only adding credibility to the rrat.
>>71971318
glad someone gets it.

>>71969915
>when the entire clip is Sayu saying the opposite and complaining that certain people killed that opportunity for her
anon watching completely different clip

>>71972905
>tfw you didn't get a reply from the mass reply schizo

>>71972905
Anon, the clique were friends with Pikamee since before they joined Nijisanji. If anything she's the second most likely person to back up Matara, if the bug decides to push for Elira/Enna/Millie/Reimu to get in Vshojo.

>>71970373
>What did she expect? A mass walk-out from the company on her behalf after she got terminated?
the fuck are you on about?

>>71972928
Are you? She says it would be a step up like three fucking times

>>71972905
I'm glad you outed yourself as a retard. I'm satisfied. Thank you for participating in this thread.

>>71970270
>thread where sister and sayu anti bitching and malding that shes exposing shit
"why board hate nina?" KEK geez anon,i wonder why ppl hate the niji clique?

>>71973038
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn9LU-u-rYM
why would she side with someone who revealed she harms herself?

>>71973058
>the fuck are you on about?
From her words. She said that certain people blame her for "destroying a place they were comfortable with" and that she's salty people just went on being comfortable after she got squeezed out of the company. Yeah, she expected more action on behalf from NijiEN's people, the whole thing reeks of sour grapes and unwarranted self-importance. She's no hero, just another person that got fucked by a corporation.

>>71971530
Well I watched that entire part to get the context and what a surprise, you are full of shit. She doesn't even bring up not joining a company until she starts talking about Niji and Niji-like companies and all the shit they take from you

>>71972968
board's too fast sorry :D

>>71970609
>They think whatever they write is reality
vshojofag overdose on those "muh talent freedom" KEK

>>71973197
>why would she side with someone who revealed she harms herself?
What are you implying?

>>71971000
>you all Dramafags,nijisanji is innocent
sure sister

So why won't Doki do anything with Sayu?

>>71973390
watch the fucking clip, retard. there's only one reason why an ADULT wouldn't be allowed any sharp objects in her house...

>>71973433
They already collabed

>>71973447
Yes, I understand that context but what is the implication here? That the alleged Elira posse wouldn't side with Henya because she cuts herself? Hold my hand and walk me through what you're implying please.

Why is this board encouraging and enabling a mentally unwell person? She clearly is crying for help. She's a self harming bridge burner. I wouldn't even call this grifting.
How does a normal person go on and trash talk a company when they recently had collabs with two of its prominent members who are always there for vtubers who needed help?

The simple fact that she mogs most of her former colleagues and consequently makes the sisters and nijiniggers seethe brings me great pleasure. I will watch her career with great interest.

>>71973038
Are there people who seriously believe that Elira and her clique have a chance to join Vshojo? I thought you guys were just memeing, that's even below 39IQ
Nina only joined because she was very good friends with Mouse, the rest of the group have absolutely no chance. And Matara has absolutely no fucking leverage on who joins Vshojo

>>71973447
henya is retarded and her mom treats her like a baby you would know this if you weren't a clipnigger

>>71971505
allright sister,take your meds first,your delusion getting worse

>>71962679
I said this before.
Her take, while true at some point, it does come off as more bitter with Matara and borderline narcissistic than the company. "Calling out" a company having a "clique direction" due to the direction of the picked talents at being more based on the internal relationships between talents and prospects is retarded as hell, instead of not caring about this (considerably due to “numbers”), a thing she even admits it's good overall, but chooses still makes her point based on her opinion. Why? Because a company choosing to create a positive environment for the talents is overall a positive thing compared to choosing only for themselves (as the company) and potential income or awareness of their brand spread around something like huge numbers, at the cost of making a borderline hostile environment.

It does speak volumes of Sayu more than Matara imo, regardless of relationships between said talents and prospects, VShojo as a company has no interest in her, if they had they would have done it before, considering Matara left Nijisanji two fucking months after Zaion was officially done and Sayu came back. I know her whole point is due to people asking her, but it's also retarded as hell to consider that they would unironically hire her even when we take out the relationships out of the equation, hence why it's borderline narcissistic. If they were going for only numbers, I do hope seeing Shylily or Filian on the group soon.

As for the bitter part, well, while it is fair for Sayu to feel that Matara's "hatred" over her mistake, Matara also isn't obligated to be like "Oh yeah, Sayu you apologized, let's be friends again", whether Matara took her apology or not, she's justifiably on her right to be indifferent to her.

Another thing that really rubs the wrong way, is her position over some people interacting with certain individuals (which in the og comment it was Kyo), while I don't agree with what Kyo did to her, this shit is fucking pathetic and wouldn't fly on any group. One of their benefits as the "talent freedom" shit is them doing what they want, and nothing can't really come out of it, lol. Matara had no issue with Zen and Kson interacting with Sayu, just like Ironmouse had no issue with those two and Nux. Same with like Pippa, Finanna (in the past), etc.

tl;dr Sayu is right about them "being a clique company", but she's retarded and bitter as hell in her opinion.

>>71973501
why would a lifelong bullying victim side with bullies?
>>71973525
says the clipnigger... just kys

>>71973512
Will any Niji that leaves and goes indie from now on have a chance to mog Niji's the same way all the ones who have already left do?

>>71962679
>confirming the existence of vshojo clique
i thought the vshoujo clique thing was just a shitpost intended to mock the kurosanji clique but i didn't expect both cliques to be actually real

>>71973574
>tldr
For good reason.

>>71973519
There are one or two guys who are friends with Mouse and Zen who might have a chance

>>71973587
>why would a lifelong bullying victim side with bullies?
Alleged. I believe in due process.

>>71973197
>he thinks anyone would bully Henya
They're friends anon, nakama-tier.

>>71973587
t. some tard who didn't even know who Pikamee was before the HL drama

>>71973658
are you denying that Henya was bullied ever since she was a little kid?
>>71973659
not with matara tho
>>71973688
keep outing yourself, retard.

>>71972905
seethe lmao

>>71962679
The actual sound in that part of the dtream was dissapointmen but the animation/piloting was good.

>>71973519
these newfags don't know that mata comes from a twitch background. She was friends with Gunrun when he was working at twitch.
I remember she was orbiting high profile esports organisation at the time like CLG and hotshotgg who went to stream on own3d.
They think networking is something you build with two collabs and a stream mention....

>>71973607
Finally a fair and balanced opinion. Jesus, this thread was hell.

THE VSHOUJO CLIQUE IS REAL
>THE VSHOUJO CLIQUE IS REAL
THE VSHOUJO CLIQUE IS REAL
>THE VSHOUJO CLIQUE IS REAL
THE VSHOUJO CLIQUE IS REAL
>THE VSHOUJO CLIQUE IS REAL
THE VSHOUJO CLIQUE IS REAL
>THE VSHOUJO CLIQUE IS REAL
THE VSHOUJO CLIQUE IS REAL
>THE VSHOUJO CLIQUE IS REAL
THE VSHOUJO CLIQUE IS REAL
>THE VSHOUJO CLIQUE IS REAL

>>71973730
You are the one outing yourself, newfag

>>71973730
No, I'm saying that the bullying by Elira is an allegation and should be proven as such until it is backed with credible proof. You argue like a fucking weasel.

>>71973803
<– this is you, by the way.
>>71973832
the black stream is proof enough.

>>71973730
>not with matara tho
My point is that if Matara wants to get the four in, Henya will vouch for them.

>>71973832 (me)
>treated
not proven
Can't see straight today.

>>71973659
these four + rosemi go way back, I remember their among us collabs

>>71973230
>that entire part
Anon, again, I watched the whole stream. It wasn't the first time that she talked about companies. Believe what you want, I literally don't care about what clip watchers think.

>>71973874
I saw you in so many threads. It's admirable that you defend Henya and I admire your passion for your oshi, but I don't like you. You're kind of a bitch.

>>71973876
nah, she likes to play ignorant, but she knows what's up.

The most scandalous thing in all of this is Sayu thinking she has a shot joining Vshojo regardless of any cliques being real or not.

>>71973954
>but I don't like you
that's your right. Henya is who matters to me, not others' opinion of me.

>>71963272
This might sound crazy, but I would've never believed this rrat or niji being a black corpo if it weren't not Sayu exposing them.

I don't watch her streams btw. I'm a clipfag for the most part.

>>71974012
She's coming up on Matara's numbers as an indie, hilariously enough.

>>71973607
You tourists are so funny. Vshojo was always a "clique" it's called a group of friends. They are like 10 members (those who stream). It's not a clique of 10 members out of a company with 100 talents like the other company. There is no chance a girl joins if an existing member disagrees. It's not like the management hiring new talents and they all pretend they are now friends, they actually have to be friends first in order to join

>>71972681
>Well you have to be funny on top of that, not an idiot. maybe delay for another year
vshojo funny? lol,lmao even, not an idiot? if they are not idiot, they all indie now

>>71973574
>Another thing that really rubs the wrong way, is her position over some people interacting with certain individuals (which in the og comment it was Kyo), while I don't agree with what Kyo did to her
Anon, fuck off. Try getting your life ruined for a whole year and then come back to write this post again.

>>71973942
>n-no bro she said it somewhere else
So your paraphrasing was dogshit and she didn't actually say "I wouldn't join anyway". Sorry that she doesn't hate the whore company as much as you do

>>71973874
>the black stream
I have doubts about that. Circumstantial at best. It is Nijisanji who painted a target on all their forward facing employees in the first place with their termination notice. Wasn't even explained who it was which caused a witch hunt of the supposed bullies and then corporate did even more spectacularly bad "damage control". They didn't even care, it was just another bullet point as shown by the "etc". So callous, so pathetic.

>>71974188
the termination notice was supposedly written by the clique, while Riku was dumbfounded when he learned what the fuck happened and it showed in his apology video. not saying he's a saint, his shitty corpo organization is what lead to this in the first place.

>>71974133
Anon? I never talked about this specific clip, I was just giving full context about what Sayu has said about Vshoujo over the last few months.
>she didn't actually say "I wouldn't join anyway"
She literally said that she is not interested on joining companies (vshoujo included) because she just doesn't need it.
>Sorry that she doesn't hate the whore company as much as you do
When did I say that I hate Vshoujo? I don't care about them. And Sayu doesn't hate them either.

>>71972905
>the clique would eventually bully Henya for which I WILL NOT stand for
they wont fuck over henya YET untill they find another one for their new "savior" fag PR, after all rushia/mikeneko/nazuna was a failure attempt.

>>71974120
You know, if let's say Sayu was on it, and she chose to make an issue of people in the org collabing with Kyo, that's unironically clique behavior. Hence, why it rubs the wrong way, she already has that mindset dude.

>>71974294
>She literally said that she is not interested on joining companies (vshoujo included) because she just doesn't need it
And then proceeded to seethe about not being able to join,

>>71974300
Nah, you can still fuck off. She has every right to still be mad at Kyo and with anyone that supports him.

>>71964003
Doki kept her mouth shut about Niji as Selen for 2 fucking years. What did it get her?

She even intended to keep her departure behind the scenes but retarded ass niji management just had to make shit public.

>>71974295
michael caused her own demise, I don't think she has anything to do with niji.

>>71973064
>Are you? She says it would be a step up like three fucking times
retardedchama ppl actually watch stream,i know this is something that is new to you

>>71974288
>the termination notice was supposedly written by the clique
Come on, you're pulling my leg here. You honestly can't expect me to believe this. Surely they would have wrote more things that would be in their favour if they did. You're a funny guy, I'll give you that.

>>71974364
>seethe
No?

>>71974434
check the relevant threads in the archives, anon.